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Offline Legion

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« on: July 03, 2019, 04:25:41 PM »
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Offline ColinMac

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2019, 04:26:48 PM »
Down with this sort of thing.

Offline andyh

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2019, 04:27:47 PM »
I saw a tweet that sums up VAR for me.

Football isn’t supposed to be perfect. VAR is unnecessary.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2019, 04:29:14 PM »
For.

Mostly to be in contradiction with Danny Baker who bangs on like a petulant twat about it.

Offline Rudy65

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Re: VAR
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2019, 04:31:10 PM »
I’m all for it. It should cut out the decisions that the officials miss. My main concern is that it doesn’t unduly disrupt the flow of the game and the fans are kept informed of what is going on

Having seen the England pen several times last night I didn’t think it was an offence initially. Shown from a slightly different angle, it clearly was. Ditto the goal we scored which was given off side.

Ultimately we want the right decision on important points in the match. Some go for your team, some against. Along as justice is done in the end, I’m all for it

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: VAR
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 04:32:25 PM »
Absolutely for. The amount of maddening and unfair decisions that cost teams points (across all the leagues) needs addressing, and because there's a Mike Dean for every honest mistake I'll take what I can get in terms of eliminating game-changing errors.

Offline KRS

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Re: VAR
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 04:33:11 PM »
As it stands, the way it is being used at the moment is wrong in many ways. We all want the correct decisions but the way it is being applied takes too long and makes the game too clinical. If you are going to introduce new technology then you also have to update the rules accordingly rather than apply to rules suitable for human error.

As an example, the way marginal offside decisions are being applied now is completely wrong IMO but the rules and application could easily be improved as follows:
I can see the point of VAR, but they need to change offside so that any part of the attacking player being onside means that they're onside. People will stop turning up if the game is littered with such anticlimaxes.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 04:37:31 PM by KRS »

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Re: VAR
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2019, 04:33:18 PM »
For - it’s a pain at times but getting decisions right is paramount. What I would like to see is challenges versus everything that is mildly controversial being reviewed. That way a manager has 1 or 2 challenges a game. Ideally 2 but only if he gets the first one right. If he gets it wrong he loses the second. The NFL has a similar system. The rest is up to the ref.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2019, 04:33:58 PM »
The right result is right foe me. Especially if it nullifies the all-in wrestling style of defending at corners. The offside by a toe decisions are frustrating and maybe die for a review.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2019, 04:40:55 PM »
I saw a tweet that sums up VAR for me.

Football isn’t supposed to be perfect. VAR is unnecessary.

My feelings summed up in a sentence. The troubles is that too many footie fans are now from the era of TV and computer games, where everything HAS to be exact.

Offline Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: VAR
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2019, 04:46:52 PM »
Rotten.

Loads of reasons (delays, still often a matter of opinion, sport is not perfect, etc.) but for me a big issue is that fans in the ground will be further robbed of the experience of watching the game live.

Can you trust that you just scored or conceded a goal? Too often it will just prompts 5 minutes of delay where the crowd in the ground is further marginalised and ignored.

All in the name of offering talking points for dull pundits in a TV studio to be parroted by complete bores sat on their sofas or in the pub (note - this is not a dig at fans that watch their football at home or in pubs, just those bores that obsess about one or two decisions or incidents in a game).

Plus it means that the 'elite' game gets further away from the experience of grassroots football.

I would prefer they invest a fraction of the cost of VAR in improving the quality of officials - not just in professional game but at all levels of football as the best refs are at the top of the pyramid and the broader the base the better the standard.

Offline Hinckley Dave

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Re: VAR
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2019, 04:48:41 PM »
Football is a game, played by people, people make mistakes. It's not a computer programme. Sometimes decisions go for you, sometimes they don't. It's a game. After every goal that goes in from now you won't know whether to celebrate or sit on your hands and wait for some computer to tell you that someone's left knacker was slightly offside. Just leave the bloody game alone, it's not perfect but then it's not supposed to be.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2019, 04:52:11 PM »
We as football fans are on a hiding to nothing if we think that incorrect decisions and goals that aren't goals should be part and parcel of the game. Technology isn't all good, but it's not all bad either, and if we're saying we don't need it to improve the game then that's just conservatism to me. If it temporarily interrupts the game, so what? The referee will do that anyway to consult his linesman on occasion, and I don't see anyone complaining when that results in a fairer decision.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2019, 04:52:26 PM »
Is there a sitting on the fence option?  Half of it is ideal, the other half is a load of bollocks.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2019, 04:54:40 PM »
For, but it needs to be quicker. And if there is a major doubt it stays with the on-pitch decision.

 


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