Quote from: ChicagoLion on February 17, 2020, 08:46:43 PMIt’s pretty obvious that a few criticizing the shape have never played in defense or maybe at all.Most football fans of any age will have played at some level, certainly my generation anyway. You don't have any special insight just because you've done it too.
It’s pretty obvious that a few criticizing the shape have never played in defense or maybe at all.
At the time we got Smith, many many people on here were happy that we'd take a risk, try and win rather than try not to lose."Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?" springs to mind. We're trying win and coming close. The football is much better. The defeats hurt, possibly more than a 1-0 loss under Bruce, but the wins are so much better. It's nerve shredding. But we're a better attacking side than we've been for years. It's high risk stuff mind.
Quote from: Drummond on February 18, 2020, 07:19:07 AMAt the time we got Smith, many many people on here were happy that we'd take a risk, try and win rather than try not to lose."Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?" springs to mind. We're trying win and coming close. The football is much better. The defeats hurt, possibly more than a 1-0 loss under Bruce, but the wins are so much better. It's nerve shredding. But we're a better attacking side than we've been for years. It's high risk stuff mind.If I was a neutral I would watch Villa games because it’s exciting stuff usually.The Spurs game was great to watch until we got done at the end.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2020, 07:31:07 AMQuote from: Drummond on February 18, 2020, 07:19:07 AMAt the time we got Smith, many many people on here were happy that we'd take a risk, try and win rather than try not to lose."Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?" springs to mind. We're trying win and coming close. The football is much better. The defeats hurt, possibly more than a 1-0 loss under Bruce, but the wins are so much better. It's nerve shredding. But we're a better attacking side than we've been for years. It's high risk stuff mind.If I was a neutral I would watch Villa games because it’s exciting stuff usually.The Spurs game was great to watch until we got done at the end.This is of course true. Six or Seven points above relegation, I would agree. However, as we are in a relegation fight, points are more important, and I don’t care if we bore draw ourselves to safety.
Quote from: Three Spires Villa on February 18, 2020, 07:56:57 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2020, 07:31:07 AMQuote from: Drummond on February 18, 2020, 07:19:07 AMAt the time we got Smith, many many people on here were happy that we'd take a risk, try and win rather than try not to lose."Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?" springs to mind. We're trying win and coming close. The football is much better. The defeats hurt, possibly more than a 1-0 loss under Bruce, but the wins are so much better. It's nerve shredding. But we're a better attacking side than we've been for years. It's high risk stuff mind.If I was a neutral I would watch Villa games because it’s exciting stuff usually.The Spurs game was great to watch until we got done at the end.This is of course true. Six or Seven points above relegation, I would agree. However, as we are in a relegation fight, points are more important, and I don’t care if we bore draw ourselves to safety.That's perfectly reasonable, but what if we go for bore draws and then get relegated? It's not like playing boring defensive football guarantees results. I'm sure we'd all prefer to win 1-0 in a boring game, than lose 3-2 in an entertaining one, but that's simply not how our manager, and our team, play these days. We don't really have the personnel for it.It's not that long ago we were all watching boring football and crap results. Personally speaking, I'm happier watching a team that tries to win, even when they fail, than watching a team sent out to avoid failing.
What I was trying to say was that personally I don’t care how we play, as long as we stop up. I am concerned about the points we have dropped from winning and drawing positions. Our style of play may or may not have contributed to this.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on February 17, 2020, 08:46:43 PMIt’s pretty obvious that a few criticizing the shape have never played in defense or maybe at all. This is the classic Brucism - "Fans - what do they know?"My concern is not necessarily Sunday's game: it is the goals-conceded, both this season and last. I'd like to know more about how the coaching team is trying to address our clear deficiency in defending.
"Listen, people keep talking about you can't beat the top teams. It's not rocket science. You play the teams in and around you, they're the type of games you're meant to win or compete in''Well that won't be enough Dean, so unless you view the games against the better teams differently we are going to end up relegated.
Quote from: aj2k77 on February 18, 2020, 09:38:18 AM"Listen, people keep talking about you can't beat the top teams. It's not rocket science. You play the teams in and around you, they're the type of games you're meant to win or compete in''Well that won't be enough Dean, so unless you view the games against the better teams differently we are going to end up relegated.It's been enough so far as we're not in the bottom three, so how can you be so sure?