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Offline brian green

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #795 on: October 14, 2017, 09:46:22 PM »
Hogan use his pace?
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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #796 on: October 14, 2017, 10:27:42 PM »
Quote from: brian green on October 14, 2017, 09:46:22 PM
Hogan use his pace?

A bit like Gabby using his intelligence.
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Offline paul_e

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #797 on: October 14, 2017, 11:01:36 PM »
Hogan does have a good burst of pace over 10 yards but not the top end speed to chase things down over 30-40 yards.  That's why he was effective in a team that was playing short sharp passes around the box but looks lost for us either giving him the ball 30-40 yards from goal or firing it at his head from 40 yards away.

Whether that's enough for him to be worth what we paid or be worth building a team around is another matter but he does have something about him that can work, just not playing for us under Bruce.
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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #798 on: October 14, 2017, 11:59:51 PM »
I honestly don't think Hogan's good enough for us to completely change our play to get him scoring goals. Certainly from what I've seen of him.
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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #799 on: October 15, 2017, 12:11:01 AM »
Quote from: SoccerHQ on October 14, 2017, 11:59:51 PM
I honestly don't think Hogan's good enough for us to completely change our play to get him scoring goals. Certainly from what I've seen of him.

I agree, but that's a fair debate, whether he can play the role Bruce is using him in isn't worth discussing because he looks like someone we've grabbed out of the crowd right now.
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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #800 on: October 15, 2017, 12:13:27 AM »
I think it's kind of hard to focus on Hogan. The team was set up horribly and I still think with the right tactics his movement would lead to a lot of goals.
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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #801 on: October 15, 2017, 05:15:18 AM »
Quote from: SoccerHQ on October 14, 2017, 11:59:51 PM
I honestly don't think Hogan's good enough for us to completely change our play to get him scoring goals. Certainly from what I've seen of him.


Yep
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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #802 on: October 15, 2017, 05:23:45 AM »
Scott Hogan is never, repeat never, going to make it at Aston Villa. And you can colour that anyway you like.
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Offline passitsideways

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #803 on: October 15, 2017, 05:29:21 AM »
Quote from: SoccerHQ on October 14, 2017, 11:59:51 PM
I honestly don't think Hogan's good enough for us to completely change our play to get him scoring goals. Certainly from what I've seen of him.

The thing is though, it's not like an upheaval in the style of play would only benefit Hogan - I bet it would make plenty of others look better as well.
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Offline brian green

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #804 on: October 15, 2017, 07:45:43 AM »
That is predicated on Hogan actually delivering when you have built the team around him.  That he would do so is very much open to debate but while you are finding out whether he can or not the games of the season are ticking off and the grip of mid Championship permanence tightens.
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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #805 on: October 15, 2017, 07:54:19 AM »
The guy is just a grade A dud. I thought that when he came on yesterday that his name wasn’t being mentioned much. So I checked on Whoscored, and in 30 minutes he managed four touches of the ball and two passes. Compare that to O’Hare and Onomah who came on much later in the game.

Need to stop making excuses for a poor player. We wasted a huge amount of money on a rubbish, exceedingly limited player based on one good half season. We’re never going to base a team around a tap in merchant like him with no other strings to his bow, so need to get rid in January.
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Offline brian green

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #806 on: October 15, 2017, 07:59:16 AM »
Quite.  When you pay the amount of money we paid for him and the wages we pay him you have to expect results quickly.  If you pay for a Jaguar you expect a Jaguar.  Not a Jaguar that won't start.
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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #807 on: October 15, 2017, 08:29:18 AM »
that's because he has a de-cat exhaust.
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Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #808 on: October 15, 2017, 11:51:31 AM »
Common sense would say, get something for him in January and say thanks but this is not now or ever gonna work for you at this club son, but when was the last time Villa acted within the realms of common sense regarding football players.
As I stated elsewhere, if I was the Doctor I would be well pissed off with having one of my large investments playing Aussie Rules and another one who has won the Argus competition to be a Villa player for a day.
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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #809 on: October 15, 2017, 12:14:09 PM »
Dr T might as well have set fire to £25 million. both total shite, and Kodjia apart, we remain embarrassingly goal shy - and I'm not expecting Kodjia to replicate  his heroics of last season
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