Author Topic: Is Ged getting fed up? (Read 19297 times)

WALTERS WARRIORS · « **Reply #60 on:** December 21, 2010, 10:48:49 PM »

Think he is simply showing players he wants total commitment and players who were not showing that now know where they stand. Moving closer to the club is part of that commitment and any future players will be made aware of that on arrival. Think he knows the players he wants in and i think Lerner wll fund hm. Getting the right players is critical. So we have to sit back and hope he gets it right .......................

eamonn · « **Reply #61 on:** December 22, 2010, 04:20:37 AM »

Robert Pires commuting from London every day must be an exception due to his short-term deal/being a buddy of the manager so.

brontebilly · « **Reply #62 on:** December 22, 2010, 04:54:15 AM »

Perhaps this article has been raised in another thread - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/22/gerard-houllier-aston-villa-overhaul

Going to be a pretty painful overhaul. Guess the writer hasnt seen Warnock play in about 18 months. One of my least favourite Villa players of all time. An out and out coward who cant turn. I think Sidwell can get back to a semi decent level if he is a holding midfielder, he certainly isnt suited to the box to box headless role he managed at Villa. Carew is finished, Dunne and Friedel are getting on, Reo Coker is a surprising one though I suspect he is looking for a move back to London. Selling Davies could be Cahill esque I fear. I definitely would give him another chance. Beye and Luke Young are no surprise either. Ireland - disastrous move from the board. Will be a 3m write off minimum in the space of 5 months.

All in all it will be a huge overhaul and we still need to find buyers for the players. While MON pointed to the increase in value of Milner and Young, the sale of this crop will really show up his lack of strategic insight in his transfer dealings as we are facing huge net losses on all players mentioned. To be honest, while whatever manager came after MON was going to have to face this overhaul I really dont have any faith in Houllier to get it even remotely right. That is pretty worrying.

damon loves JT · « **Reply #63 on:** December 22, 2010, 08:12:40 AM »

There's an old saying round my way: 'If you let Hans Krankl in the chicken coop, he's bound to pour petrol on the false dawn'. It's an expression used mostly by pillocks

Chris Smith · « **Reply #64 on:** December 22, 2010, 10:06:46 AM »

Warnock a coward?

While he has put in some dodgy performances this season and does need replaceing I don't see that at all.

WALTERS WARRIORS · « **Reply #65 on:** December 22, 2010, 12:10:17 PM »

Warnock has certainly lost that cutting edge. But a coward is far off the mark. For some reason he`s enthusiasm has gone out of sync with his timing and i am sure he can turn it round in training .............

not3bad · « **Reply #66 on:** December 22, 2010, 12:26:53 PM »

Warnock a coward but Sidwell decent? He's talking out of his arse.

Toronto Villa · « **Reply #67 on:** December 22, 2010, 12:31:29 PM »

Warnock isn't in the least a coward. He just makes very poor decisions in the wrong area of the pitch. If it was Gabby throwing himself into those tackles you might write if off as a forward's challenge. Warnock should know much better. He's become a liability lately. I wouldn't neccessarily sell him because of his versatility and squad value, but I'd get somebody in that's younger and better.

peter w · « **Reply #68 on:** December 22, 2010, 01:02:48 PM »

Quote from: damon green on December 22, 2010, 08:12:40 AM

There's an old saying round my way: 'If you let Hans Krankl in the chicken coop, he's bound to pour petrol on the false dawn'. It's an expression used mostly by pillocks

Ahhhh, hans Krankl. Remember when he was one iof the hottest properties in European football? Everyone was trying to tempt him with offers of riches beyond his wildest dreams, football to build his legacy on, trophies to allow him to proudly show his grandchildren in his dotage. We tried to get him on loan...

villa1 · « **Reply #69 on:** December 22, 2010, 01:22:18 PM »

Can only echo what others have said. Warnock is definitely not a coward. I'd question whether you've watched him in the last 18 months, Bronte.

Yes he dives into challenges that he shouldn't but not a coward.

dave.woodhall · « **Reply #70 on:** December 22, 2010, 03:42:14 PM »

Quote from: peter w on December 22, 2010, 01:02:48 PM

Quote from: damon green on December 22, 2010, 08:12:40 AM
There's an old saying round my way: 'If you let Hans Krankl in the chicken coop, he's bound to pour petrol on the false dawn'. It's an expression used mostly by pillocks

Ahhhh, hans Krankl. Remember when he was one iof the hottest properties in European football? Everyone was trying to tempt him with offers of riches beyond his wildest dreams, football to build his legacy on, trophies to allow him to proudly show his grandchildren in his dotage. We tried to get him on loan...

Then signed Peter Withe.

KevinGage · « **Reply #71 on:** December 22, 2010, 07:04:32 PM »

Quote from: brontebilly on December 22, 2010, 04:54:15 AM

Perhaps this article has been raised in another thread - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/22/gerard-houllier-aston-villa-overhaul

Going to be a pretty painful overhaul. Guess the writer hasnt seen Warnock play in about 18 months. One of my least favourite Villa players of all time. An out and out coward who cant turn. I think Sidwell can get back to a semi decent level if he is a holding midfielder, he certainly isnt suited to the box to box headless role he managed at Villa. Carew is finished, Dunne and Friedel are getting on, Reo Coker is a surprising one though I suspect he is looking for a move back to London. Selling Davies could be Cahill esque I fear. I definitely would give him another chance. Beye and Luke Young are no surprise either. Ireland - disastrous move from the board. Will be a 3m write off minimum in the space of 5 months.

All in all it will be a huge overhaul and we still need to find buyers for the players. While MON pointed to the increase in value of Milner and Young, the sale of this crop will really show up his lack of strategic insight in his transfer dealings as we are facing huge net losses on all players mentioned. To be honest, while whatever manager came after MON was going to have to face this overhaul I really dont have any faith in Houllier to get it even remotely right. That is pretty worrying.

Don't agree with your Warnock assessment at all, just a good player woefully out of form.

Also, wasn't GH's remit more evolution rather than evolution when he pitched up in September? Talk was it would be one or two deals in with one or two obvious deals out to supplement an already decent base.

Now in the space of 2/3 months it's moved on to wholesale changes, a complete overhaul no less. With that usually comes the benefit of an even longer period of assessment - as surely no manager can be judged 6 months/12 months possibly even 18 months after assembling virtually a new starting XI from scratch.

So depending on when you want to start the clock running: if it's after the first few deals in Jan that could possibly take us up as far as June 2012, if it's when most of the deals are done in the summer you're looking at Jan/Fen 2013.

A decent argument to ensure that you're paid for the duration of your top whack salary, a salary if you were GH you'd do well to match elsewhere. But outside of that, I must say I see it as odd and indeed quite a gamble that a manager with such a poor transfer record elsewhere, a guy who already splits opinion would be backed to that extent.

brontebilly · « **Reply #72 on:** December 22, 2010, 10:22:44 PM »

Warnock spends five mins in each game at this stage on the ground. Any whack and he goes down generally during play such as Arsenal where he played everyone onside for about two mins. The boy who cries wolf comes to mind. Don't think he is a good player either. Never rated him at Blackburn, remember Milner tearing him a new one at Ewood Park a couple of seasons. His dive in first ask questions later approach has been thoroughly found out this season. He can't turn, is one paced and can't pass a ball. What is not to love

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