Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 07:09:34 AMQuote from: eamonn on January 25, 2017, 11:24:17 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 25, 2017, 08:58:34 PMThe length of the new contract was bizarre Time will tell but im betting that gardner doesnt make the benchWhy bizarre?Because he is not up to the job and gets 4 years, why not 2?Probably helps us get a better fee when we sell him.
Quote from: eamonn on January 25, 2017, 11:24:17 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 25, 2017, 08:58:34 PMThe length of the new contract was bizarre Time will tell but im betting that gardner doesnt make the benchWhy bizarre?Because he is not up to the job and gets 4 years, why not 2?
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 25, 2017, 08:58:34 PMThe length of the new contract was bizarre Time will tell but im betting that gardner doesnt make the benchWhy bizarre?
The length of the new contract was bizarre Time will tell but im betting that gardner doesnt make the bench
Exactly SH. The reason for giving young journeyman players long contracts is sound business, a skill long missing at Villa Park.You get two bites at the cherry. The young player might mature into a better, first team regular.. If he does not he retains sell on value. Deduct the wages paid from the fee received and a modest profit probably accrues. The alternative is the RHM scenario where we put all the time and money into a young player only to see him walk on a free. Gary Gardner is a perfectly adequate player for a lower league club, why give him away?
The difference is that we already know other clubs rate Gary Gardner. Forest would bite our hand off for him. Preston fans in the Barton's last Saturday could not believe we let Callum Robinson go.
Quote from: brian green on January 26, 2017, 07:46:38 AMThe difference is that we already know other clubs rate Gary Gardner. Forest would bite our hand off for him. Preston fans in the Barton's last Saturday could not believe we let Callum Robinson go.Do you honestly think forest could match what we are paying him?
I think we've seen exactly how crucial kodjia is to us since he's been away.
I'll be interested to see how GG does with better and different types of midfield players around him, rather than alongside Westwood. Over the last couple of seasons, has any midfield player not struggled when played alongside Westwood.
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 07:49:55 AMQuote from: brian green on January 26, 2017, 07:46:38 AMThe difference is that we already know other clubs rate Gary Gardner. Forest would bite our hand off for him. Preston fans in the Barton's last Saturday could not believe we let Callum Robinson go.Do you honestly think forest could match what we are paying him?that is a different problem. We need to stop overpaying average players. If players are replaceable, then give them average wages, if players are crucial, such as Benteke, then by all means give then top dollar. I wouldn't say any of the current squad are crucial so players on 40k+ per week just seems crazy for a division 2 team
Quote from: ClaretAndBlueBlood on January 26, 2017, 10:13:00 AMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 07:49:55 AMQuote from: brian green on January 26, 2017, 07:46:38 AMThe difference is that we already know other clubs rate Gary Gardner. Forest would bite our hand off for him. Preston fans in the Barton's last Saturday could not believe we let Callum Robinson go.Do you honestly think forest could match what we are paying him?that is a different problem. We need to stop overpaying average players. If players are replaceable, then give them average wages, if players are crucial, such as Benteke, then by all means give then top dollar. I wouldn't say any of the current squad are crucial so players on 40k+ per week just seems crazy for a division 2 teamIt is linked though, if gardner is on 20k a week then he isnt going to leave for 15Yes a long contract means we get a fee but if the weekly wage is decent there is no incentive for him to leave and why should he as we have agreed to pay him x amount for 4 yearsthe reason gabby hasnt moved is because no one will pay him anything like what he will get here
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 11:59:31 AMQuote from: ClaretAndBlueBlood on January 26, 2017, 10:13:00 AMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 07:49:55 AMQuote from: brian green on January 26, 2017, 07:46:38 AMThe difference is that we already know other clubs rate Gary Gardner. Forest would bite our hand off for him. Preston fans in the Barton's last Saturday could not believe we let Callum Robinson go.Do you honestly think forest could match what we are paying him?that is a different problem. We need to stop overpaying average players. If players are replaceable, then give them average wages, if players are crucial, such as Benteke, then by all means give then top dollar. I wouldn't say any of the current squad are crucial so players on 40k+ per week just seems crazy for a division 2 teamIt is linked though, if gardner is on 20k a week then he isnt going to leave for 15Yes a long contract means we get a fee but if the weekly wage is decent there is no incentive for him to leave and why should he as we have agreed to pay him x amount for 4 yearsthe reason gabby hasnt moved is because no one will pay him anything like what he will get hereI think we are saying the same thing but coming from different sides. A 4 year contract on a reasonable wages is ok, a 4 year contract on an inflated wage is a problem