Quote from: Scott Nielsen on July 31, 2021, 09:54:58 AMQuote from: Ad@m on July 31, 2021, 09:40:46 AMIf the "big" clubs want our players every summer then we must be doing something right. Every player is different and every player has their price. If Man Utd offered us £100m for Konsa next summer I'd drive him to Old Trafford myself!As long as every year we progress, and that sometimes means cashing in on players at their peak value, then that's the main thing. And if Europe's brightest and best want to come to the Villa because they know it'll benefit their career in the long run them what's the problem? It hasn't done Dortmund any harm and they've just sold one of their best players too.I appreciate the argument you make but Dortmund are about as likely to win Bundesliga as we are winning the PL. That's because they keep selling their best players. Best case for us is we become another Leicester but I think very, very difficult to repeat their sustained success in the transfer market. In the last decade Dortmund have won the league twice, the German FA Cup once, have finished in the top 4 in all but one of those seasons and played European football every season - almost all of those in the Champions League. On top of that they've got a tremendous stadium and are seen as the place to be if you're one of Europe's best young players. If the Villa can replicate that, I'll take it.
Quote from: Ad@m on July 31, 2021, 09:40:46 AMIf the "big" clubs want our players every summer then we must be doing something right. Every player is different and every player has their price. If Man Utd offered us £100m for Konsa next summer I'd drive him to Old Trafford myself!As long as every year we progress, and that sometimes means cashing in on players at their peak value, then that's the main thing. And if Europe's brightest and best want to come to the Villa because they know it'll benefit their career in the long run them what's the problem? It hasn't done Dortmund any harm and they've just sold one of their best players too.I appreciate the argument you make but Dortmund are about as likely to win Bundesliga as we are winning the PL. That's because they keep selling their best players. Best case for us is we become another Leicester but I think very, very difficult to repeat their sustained success in the transfer market.
If the "big" clubs want our players every summer then we must be doing something right. Every player is different and every player has their price. If Man Utd offered us £100m for Konsa next summer I'd drive him to Old Trafford myself!As long as every year we progress, and that sometimes means cashing in on players at their peak value, then that's the main thing. And if Europe's brightest and best want to come to the Villa because they know it'll benefit their career in the long run them what's the problem? It hasn't done Dortmund any harm and they've just sold one of their best players too.
As I said last night these owners have done more than enough to deserve some latitude. Jack would have been gone years ago for peanuts and we’d have been in financial ruin were it not for them. How about don’t turn on them the first time something happens we don’t like? We have no idea of the circumstances around this.
Quote from: Goldenballs on July 31, 2021, 09:35:20 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 31, 2021, 09:21:49 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on July 31, 2021, 08:59:13 AMQuote from: Des Little on July 31, 2021, 08:19:56 AMI have absolute full faith that these owners will be doing everything they can to deliver the right outcome for Aston Villa, and I think most people here will agree with me. I honestly don’t think we could be in better hands right now. Up the Villa. I agree but if Grealish is sold this will be their biggest test. It will make their job of selling the ambition of the club to new players a little more difficult.a little ? I would suggest an awful lot and it’s not just new players I would worry about.Yeah exactly. Say Man Utd come in for Konsa next summer for example, what's he going to be thinking.Any new big ish players from Europe would see us a good platform to show their ability in the top league to impress the 'big' teams. If the "big" clubs want our players every summer then we must be doing something right. Every player is different and every player has their price. If Man Utd offered us £100m for Konsa next summer I'd drive him to Old Trafford myself!As long as every year we progress, and that sometimes means cashing in on players at their peak value, then that's the main thing. And if Europe's brightest and best want to come to the Villa because they know it'll benefit their career in the long run them what's the problem? It hasn't done Dortmund any harm and they've just sold one of their best players too.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 31, 2021, 09:21:49 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on July 31, 2021, 08:59:13 AMQuote from: Des Little on July 31, 2021, 08:19:56 AMI have absolute full faith that these owners will be doing everything they can to deliver the right outcome for Aston Villa, and I think most people here will agree with me. I honestly don’t think we could be in better hands right now. Up the Villa. I agree but if Grealish is sold this will be their biggest test. It will make their job of selling the ambition of the club to new players a little more difficult.a little ? I would suggest an awful lot and it’s not just new players I would worry about.Yeah exactly. Say Man Utd come in for Konsa next summer for example, what's he going to be thinking.Any new big ish players from Europe would see us a good platform to show their ability in the top league to impress the 'big' teams.
Quote from: Chris Smith on July 31, 2021, 08:59:13 AMQuote from: Des Little on July 31, 2021, 08:19:56 AMI have absolute full faith that these owners will be doing everything they can to deliver the right outcome for Aston Villa, and I think most people here will agree with me. I honestly don’t think we could be in better hands right now. Up the Villa. I agree but if Grealish is sold this will be their biggest test. It will make their job of selling the ambition of the club to new players a little more difficult.a little ? I would suggest an awful lot and it’s not just new players I would worry about.
Quote from: Des Little on July 31, 2021, 08:19:56 AMI have absolute full faith that these owners will be doing everything they can to deliver the right outcome for Aston Villa, and I think most people here will agree with me. I honestly don’t think we could be in better hands right now. Up the Villa. I agree but if Grealish is sold this will be their biggest test. It will make their job of selling the ambition of the club to new players a little more difficult.
I have absolute full faith that these owners will be doing everything they can to deliver the right outcome for Aston Villa, and I think most people here will agree with me. I honestly don’t think we could be in better hands right now. Up the Villa.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on July 31, 2021, 10:29:41 AMAs I said last night these owners have done more than enough to deserve some latitude. Jack would have been gone years ago for peanuts and we’d have been in financial ruin were it not for them. How about don’t turn on them the first time something happens we don’t like? We have no idea of the circumstances around this. I think this is putting it mildly. Both owners and player have done so much for this club in a very short time. Jack deserves his move-if he wants it, and the owners have kept him loyal (and well paid) through some very difficult years.
Quote from: kipeye on July 31, 2021, 10:45:57 AMQuote from: PaulWinch again on July 31, 2021, 10:29:41 AMAs I said last night these owners have done more than enough to deserve some latitude. Jack would have been gone years ago for peanuts and we’d have been in financial ruin were it not for them. How about don’t turn on them the first time something happens we don’t like? We have no idea of the circumstances around this. I think this is putting it mildly. Both owners and player have done so much for this club in a very short time. Jack deserves his move-if he wants it, and the owners have kept him loyal (and well paid) through some very difficult years.If he was looking to move, he shouldn’t have signed a 5 year deal less than a year ago and given it the ‘my club’ bullshit.Every bit as snakey as the snake.
What benefit? We’re already rich apparently
My point is that there is no benefit to this because our owners are already outrageously wealthy. Selling Grealish weakens us massively and strengthens them. We won’t be able to spend that 100m on same-level players, but had a chance to do that with one world class player already at the club. What benefit do you see in this?
They've given up. An absolute crossroads and they've laid down and took it. Pathetic.
Quote from: Ads on July 31, 2021, 11:20:03 AMThey've given up. An absolute crossroads and they've laid down and took it. Pathetic.The evidence points to a player/agent agitating to get out so I think that's why this has progressed so far.