Aston Villa vs West Ham post-match thread

[Drummond]

I said this yesterday - every game we play is played with an eye on the next game. I'd have left Watkins and Ramsey on yesterday as they were both causing west ham problems. But no doubt the decision was made with Wednesday in mind.

Ramsey played only 5-10 mins in Monaco. No way he needed to be replaced. Poor decision. Bailey was ok too. We went to bits on the flanks when they both went off. Credit to Kamara as he was carrying that midfield, Tielemans badly needed to be replaced last 20-30.

None of our subs made an impact, mind.

With all due respect, how do you know? As supporters we're not armed with his fitness or performance stats, we don't know whether or not players are still good to go or what their plan is.

It seemed to me that yesterday was the first time Ramsey had the shackles off fully, he seemed to be running with more purpose, power and speed than he has at any other time this season. Perhaps the plan was for him to have 'x' amount of time so as not to overdo it.

I liked what I saw of him yesterday, and was also disappointed he went off because I think we lost something when he did.

[Ian.]

I said this yesterday - every game we play is played with an eye on the next game. I'd have left Watkins and Ramsey on yesterday as they were both causing west ham problems. But no doubt the decision was made with Wednesday in mind.

Ramsey played only 5-10 mins in Monaco. No way he needed to be replaced. Poor decision. Bailey was ok too. We went to bits on the flanks when they both went off. Credit to Kamara as he was carrying that midfield, Tielemans badly needed to be replaced last 20-30.

None of our subs made an impact, mind.

The only change I’d have made was Tilemans for McGinn.

[PaulWinch again]

You do, so chucking him in there wouldn’t have been a good call.

Also with the greatest respect the comparison to Rogers is ludicrous. Other than them both being young they are not remotely comparable. Rogers had played 80 odd senior games before came to us, up to Championship level. There was plenty to say he had a great chance.

Swinkels has played one senior game hasn’t he? The aforementioned League Cup game.

Unless the coaching staff don't think they are ready, there's surely got to be a time where they are given a chance though?  Both Swinkels and Bogarde are now 21, so not really kids anymore.  Surely they would be desperate to get a chance to play?

Well quite and I’d say it suggests Bogarde is seen as one who does have a potential future. I’d be incredibly surprised if Swinkels does with us.

[brontebilly]

I said this yesterday - every game we play is played with an eye on the next game. I'd have left Watkins and Ramsey on yesterday as they were both causing west ham problems. But no doubt the decision was made with Wednesday in mind.

Ramsey played only 5-10 mins in Monaco. No way he needed to be replaced. Poor decision. Bailey was ok too. We went to bits on the flanks when they both went off. Credit to Kamara as he was carrying that midfield, Tielemans badly needed to be replaced last 20-30.

None of our subs made an impact, mind.

With all due respect, how do you know? As supporters we're not armed with his fitness or performance stats, we don't know whether or not players are still good to go or what their plan is.

It seemed to me that yesterday was the first time Ramsey had the shackles off fully, he seemed to be running with more purpose, power and speed than he has at any other time this season. Perhaps the plan was for him to have 'x' amount of time so as not to overdo it.

I liked what I saw of him yesterday, and was also disappointed he went off because I think we lost something when he did.

I guess forums would be boring places if the managers decisions aren't questioned....

[VillaTim]

Agree re Swinkels , he should have been on the bench , if he isn't trusted what's the point in him being here .

[Somniloquism]

All those people who have been asking why Swinkels wasn't on the bench for the last 18 games are finally proven correct...... what do you mean they have only mentioned it after this weekend?

[VillaTim]

We had Carlos on the bench though previously.

[Somniloquism]

We didn't the last few matches.

[astonvilla82]

If I remember rightly didn't we fall apart after Mings injury at Newcastle, perhaps the players thought it was the same injury, although that's no excuse

[eamonn]

We lost 5-1 but Fergie thought we were great and he was right.