Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[kippaxvilla2]

This seems to have only become a thing for Villa fans since Jug Ears got the job.  Maybe it’s a William is next type of thing.

[dave.woodhall]

This seems to have only become a thing for Villa fans since Jug Ears got the job.  Maybe it’s a William is next type of thing.

It would have been a bit pointless singing God Save the King before then.

[paul_e]

This seems to have only become a thing for Villa fans since Jug Ears got the job.  Maybe it’s a William is next type of thing.

It would have been a bit pointless singing God Save the King before then.

and also despite having most of the same institutional problems that Charles had Liz had been there for such a long time that she was almost part of the furniture, even if you were a republican at heart it was hard to be too critical of her. All of that protection through familiarity was lost when she died so anger towards the crown is much higher than it has bene for years.

[Ads]

A lot of Kopites are try hard minds. Anfield is so rammed full of tourists and Wools that you get a bit of American style plastic Irish where they're trying to fit into perceived Scouse norms. Then you have those that are drenched in sanctimonious self agrandisement of their club that its nauseating to even bring football up with them.

The history of Liverpool appears to be similar to football plus VAT. Anybody would think it started with Thatcher. Never mind that it's a city built off slavery in the 18th and early 19th century, that it was the most sectarian place in England, still has Orange Order marches, the most Conservative and Unionist city in England until probably the 60s. If ye' know ye' history la'.

[pauliewalnuts]

A lot of Kopites are try hard minds. Anfield is so rammed full of tourists and Wools that you get a bit of American style plastic Irish where they're trying to fit into perceived Scouse norms. Then you have those that are drenched in sanctimonious self agrandisement of their club that its nauseating to even bring football up with them.

The history of Liverpool appears to be similar to football plus VAT. Anybody would think it started with Thatcher. Never mind that it's a city built off slavery in the 18th and early 19th century, that it was the most sectarian place in England, still has Orange Order marches, the most Conservative and Unionist city in England until probably the 60s. If ye' know ye' history la'.

It's also the most crushingly monoracial large city I have been to in the UK.

I liked almost nothing about it.

[Percy McCarthy]

A lot of Kopites are try hard minds. Anfield is so rammed full of tourists and Wools that you get a bit of American style plastic Irish where they're trying to fit into perceived Scouse norms. Then you have those that are drenched in sanctimonious self agrandisement of their club that its nauseating to even bring football up with them.

The history of Liverpool appears to be similar to football plus VAT. Anybody would think it started with Thatcher. Never mind that it's a city built off slavery in the 18th and early 19th century, that it was the most sectarian place in England, still has Orange Order marches, the most Conservative and Unionist city in England until probably the 60s. If ye' know ye' history la'.

It's also the most crushingly monoracial large city I have been to in the UK.

I liked almost nothing about it.

I might have mentioned it before but there’s an old black guy who used to do (maybe still does?) a guided tour in which he absolutely slates the place for its racism. My missus went on it, it was mostly black people, a coachload from a church in Handsworth, and they said that everyone was looking at them as if they all had two heads.

[dave.woodhall]

It's changed now, but back in the eighties it was both the most left-wing and also the most racist big city in the country.

[pauliewalnuts]

Have Everton now got over their racism problem?

[PeterWithesShin]

Everton are white, Everton are white.
If you watch the 6-2 game you hear the monkey chants at Daley whenever he got the ball.

I think i've said before, a lot of the lads I used to go the football with back in the day were Asian, Dave W knows a couple, and the only time I saw outright racist behaviour towards them in the PL era was against Liverpool, worst being the '96 semi final at Old Trafford.

And also back in the day, mainly 90s early 00s, I spent a reasonable amount of time in various cities doing work and so on. Glasgow, loved it, Manchester was great, Bristol fine, and so on. The one place I just couldn't relax was Liverpool. Hard to explain why, just had a bad vibe/atmosphere and none of the black lads with us were remotely comfortable.

Hopefully it's better now, but it was a weird fucking place up until fairly recently.

[Risso]

The North West is odd like that, you've got places with a high percentage of people from ethnic minorities like Manchester, Bolton, Burnley and Blackburn. Then within a few miles, places like Liverpool, Warrington, Chorley and Wigan with hardly any. I think a lot of it is to do with the main industry in the area, so places with mills brought in a lot of workers from the sub-continent. Those towns based on mining and chemicals, didn't.

[AV84]

Weren't Everton investigating racial abuse by fans aimed at one of their own players after they lost to us?

[PeterWithesShin]

Just a few fairly recent headlines

Everton condemn ‘vile’ racist abuse of Amadou Onana after Aston Villa defeat

Police investigate racist abuse of families of Brentford players at Everton

An Everton fan has been found guilty of shouting racist abuse at a rival Leicester City supporter during a Premier League game.

[tomd2103]

A lot of Kopites are try hard minds. Anfield is so rammed full of tourists and Wools that you get a bit of American style plastic Irish where they're trying to fit into perceived Scouse norms. Then you have those that are drenched in sanctimonious self agrandisement of their club that its nauseating to even bring football up with them.

The history of Liverpool appears to be similar to football plus VAT. Anybody would think it started with Thatcher. Never mind that it's a city built off slavery in the 18th and early 19th century, that it was the most sectarian place in England, still has Orange Order marches, the most Conservative and Unionist city in England until probably the 60s. If ye' know ye' history la'.

Yep, they are one of a few clubs who have re-written their own history during the Premier League era, abetted by their fawning pals in the media.