SHA v Aston Villa LCQF Post-Match Thread

[Rigadon]

Outplayed them without creating enough chances.  Couldn't defend the last 10 minutes again.  We're becoming the embodiment of  of "lovely team: 3 points". 

Time for Houllier to earn his wages now.  It's going to be a rough month and we need points.  Pretty football: check, porous defence: check, blunt up front: check.  Unless we put some points on the board between now and Christmas it's going to be difficult to attract anybody half decent in January.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

You win games by scoring goals and not conceding them. In between you can play like Brazil at their best and it matters not a jot.
You can have the best kids in the world passing like football magicians but if no one sticks it in the net, you get relegated.

You can sit in your seat and extol how good the kids are, how great the passing was, but goals count, for or against and at the moment, stating the obvious, we are not finishing the chances we create and giving away too many soft goals, usually late on in the half.
That alone is a sign of lack of concentration brought on by a lack of experience.
Blues won because we gave away 2 dumb goals and scored 1, and I'm sure those who can be bothered can show similar examples from the season of similar endings.
Plus whilst I fully appreciate Houllier bought into a hornets nest, and has not had any time to make huge changes, he must now start sharing in the blame.

And you can win games under MON whilst playing badly nd finish 6th three seasons in a row, with a cup final and FA Cup semi in the last season, and still people will complain. (This isn't directly aimed at you in particular).

We're playing some good football now, arguably better than we have in recent seasons, but the results aren't coming (yet), but they will do.

Do you want some good football played with results being not so good, or the way it often was with MON (not that it was always bad (I think some people forget that)), where we might not play so great, but have some good results?

Let's just watch some good football for a change. If we lose, we lose. Unless you spend a shit load of money, odds are you won't win anything anyway (who'd have thought Chelsea and Man Utd would go out to Newcastle and West Ham?).

We're like a shit Arsenal 

[garyshawsknee]

You win games by scoring goals and not conceding them. In between you can play like Brazil at their best and it matters not a jot.
You can have the best kids in the world passing like football magicians but if no one sticks it in the net, you get relegated.

You can sit in your seat and extol how good the kids are, how great the passing was, but goals count, for or against and at the moment, stating the obvious, we are not finishing the chances we create and giving away too many soft goals, usually late on in the half.
That alone is a sign of lack of concentration brought on by a lack of experience.
Blues won because we gave away 2 dumb goals and scored 1, and I'm sure those who can be bothered can show similar examples from the season of similar endings.
Plus whilst I fully appreciate Houllier bought into a hornets nest, and has not had any time to make huge changes, he must now start sharing in the blame.

And you can win games under MON whilst playing badly nd finish 6th three seasons in a row, with a cup final and FA Cup semi in the last season, and still people will complain. (This isn't directly aimed at you in particular).

We're playing some good football now, arguably better than we have in recent seasons, but the results aren't coming (yet), but they will do.

Do you want some good football played with results being not so good, or the way it often was with MON (not that it was always bad (I think some people forget that)), where we might not play so great, but have some good results?

Let's just watch some good football for a change. If we lose, we lose. Unless you spend a shit load of money, odds are you won't win anything anyway (who'd have thought Chelsea and Man Utd would go out to Newcastle and West Ham?).

We're like a shit Arsenal 

 I agree,I think we're gonna have to ride this season out,expect some defeats as the players get use to new methods of playing. I know the results haven't been good,but the movement of the players,the improvment of keeping the ball,also the fact that 4 or 5 youngsters are getting alot of experience will prove important for next season.

 I think most of us were in agreement that the football at the end of last season was getting painful to watch,the change won't happen over night,so we all need to be patient.

[Shrek]

Remember people, Martin only got where he was by spending millions and millions on players and wages.

[barrysleftfoot]

   Same as every other manager then gibbo.


   Thing is the same defence that MON brought in now looks a lot more porous.That must be down to the managerial styles.

   Now i'm not going to get into the GH vs MON debate, but the fact is we don't look so organized in defence as we did last year, and we need to tighten up.

[glasses]

Absolutely, a goal down in any game let alone a cup-tie of such importance you need to go for it, big men needed against a defence like Blues.  What did GH do?  Brought on two powder puffs in the form of Delfouneso and Pires.  As bad as Carew played on Saturday surely he would have made more difference than those two.

I would say the exact opposite, Dann and Johnson just love heading the ball away, the best tactic is to keep the ball on the deck, what we did was to just lump it forward hoping something would drop after Blues scored.

Keep playing football would have been a better tactic.

Well either way Houllier got it wrong. If he wanted to play football, why did we throw Collins up front and lump the ball to him. If He wanted to lump the ball forward, he should have brought on Carew, rather than Delfonueso.

[dave.woodhall]

My ticket arrived this morning.

[villajk]

Ah, well you get to go back another day.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ah, well you get to go back another day.

More proof that a trip to the Sty truly is a trip back in time.

[paulcomben]

Sack Houllier now before he reverses us all the way into the Championship.

Oh do piss off.


I daresay you have realised I was correct after that Anfield disgrace.