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Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 09, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
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Joshua v Ngannou's been announced. Meanwhile, you can't get a price on Fury v Usyk being cancelled. What a sport.
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And everything happening in Saudi Arabia. It's a load of bollocks. No wonder UFC is becoming more and more popular.
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Is UFC really popular or is it similar WWF closed-shop entertainment. Is there a thriving UFC equivalent of a York Hall bill? I've never watched it so only really know it from the disturbingly celeb way it's written about.
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Will anyone be staying up for Beterbiev v Smith?
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Just watched the “Rumble in the Jungle” For the first time.
My parents have always raved about it when they watched live in 74.
Now that’s a proper scrap.
No bollocks
Cooper’s left hook is still a classic.
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Er, Cooper?
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Jonas wins it on a split decision, could have gone either way, but what a brilliant fight.
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Great fight,really close
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I had it to Myer but it was better than the Cullen v Chelli snoozeathon.
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I thought Mayer had just done enough.
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Er, Cooper?
Indeed, my mnemonic for remembering which is which is that Foreman didn't fight Ali in Manila and Frazier didn't fight him in Zaire.
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Er, Cooper?
Indeed, my mnemonic for remembering which is which is that Foreman didn't fight Ali in Manila and Frazier didn't fight him in Zaire.
Or you could just know your boxing history 😉
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And it looks like tonight could be another Don't Bother Switching On card.
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Fury v Usyk on 17 Feb is gonna be on Sky, TNT and Dazn, which is very unusual, needless to say PPV.
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Tyson Fury's undisputed heavyweight title fight against Oleksandr Usyk has been postponed after the Briton sustained a "freak" cut in training.
Fury, 35, was cut in sparring at his training camp in Saudi Arabia on Friday in preparation for the bout on 17 February in Riyadh.
The injury above Fury's right eye needed "urgent medical attention" and "significant stitching".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68187055
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Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
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Now rescheduled for 18 May
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Wonder what will result in it being cancelled this time.
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On a happier note, Azeez v Buatsi should be good this evening. There's nothing like a well-matched British title fight.
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For once a proper top level boxing match. Not like contrived rubbish in heavyweight division we are used to watching.
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It was a decent fight - both men went forward constantly and Buatsi always had a bit more class. The scores were wider than I'd have given and it would have been interesting what might have happened without the 10-7 round.
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Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
Saw an interview with Johnny Nelson where he was saying that there are a lot of rumours flying around that Fury was getting turned over in the gym, his legs have gone and what we saw against Ngannou is a reflection of where he's at.
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Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
Saw an interview with Johnny Nelson where he was saying that there are a lot of rumours flying around that Fury was getting turned over in the gym, his legs have gone and what we saw against Ngannou is a reflection of where he's at.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. He should have fought Usyk a couple of years ago while he could still be arsed.
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After a year battling with cancer, Adam Smith is back commentating tonight working for Talksport, he's left Sky after nearly 30 years with them.
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Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
Saw an interview with Johnny Nelson where he was saying that there are a lot of rumours flying around that Fury was getting turned over in the gym, his legs have gone and what we saw against Ngannou is a reflection of where he's at.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. He should have fought Usyk a couple of years ago while he could still be arsed.
I'd still be very surprised if Usyk beat him. Fury is busy and smart enough to keep him at range, and Usyk doesn't have devastating power on the inside to hurt him.
I want to see the fight, but can't help thinking it'll be a disappointment.
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It's just that continuous forward momentum from Usyk that I think would trouble Fury. He's always moving, and always trying to throw punches, which at the very least would probably give him a points victory.
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Two televised bills tonight and none next week again.
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Sam Noakes looks impressive.
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It's just that continuous forward momentum from Usyk that I think would trouble Fury. He's always moving, and always trying to throw punches, which at the very least would probably give him a points victory.
You may well be right, mate, Usyk is an excellent fighter. If they were both the same size, I'd favour Usyk.
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No messing about from Sheeraz, that was very impressive.
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No messing about from Sheeraz, that was very impressive.
I don't like him, but it was. It also meant I could catch the last rounds of Bellotti beating Dillon.
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Sam Eggington's fighting on Channel 5 now, so no messing around with streams or subscriptions. One day the wars he's been in will catch up with him and it might be tonight but there's more action in one of his fights than in a dozen of Eddie Hearn's snoozathons.
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Sam Eggington's fighting on Channel 5 now, so no messing around with streams or subscriptions. One day the wars he's been in will catch up with him and it might be tonight but there's more action in one of his fights than in a dozen of Eddie Hearn's snoozathons.
Hope it’s not tonight that it catches up Dave, one of those you have to watch!
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He might have lost but that was another great fight.
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Box office, the more skills won but Eggingtton was his usual self…how he got himself out of the corner in the 11th was mad
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And a very classy touch during the post-fight interview.
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And a very classy touch during the post-fight interview.
Absolutely, an hour of how boxing should be, good fight with nothing left in there, full respect - proper fight…tho no Hearn or Warren involved so we shouldn’t be surprised
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And commentators who didn't make it about them.
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Anybody know what time the Joshua fight is expected to start?
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Around 11pm.
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There's a couple of good fights before that as well.
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So do people reckon Joshua will win?
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So do people reckon Joshua will win?
Easily.
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Zhang vs Parker is interesting, although I suspect Parker will be better than Joyce.
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Nick Ball's getting a bit of a lesson here.
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Probably for another time to answer Dave, but where does your love of boxing come from?
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Nick Ball's getting a bit of a lesson here.
Guess a draw would have been taken at halfway
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Lo, the Oracle of the pugilistic arts does it again.
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Probably for another time to answer Dave, but where does your love of boxing come from?
I was brought up with it. My granddad was a pro boxer, my dad was an amateur.
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Birmingham needs a world star of boxing.
Baffles me a bit that we seem underrepresented in this sport.
Are we and if so, why?
A big part of why I can watch UFC is because I get support Leon Edwards. I'd like a Birmingham fighter to get behind. I know of the Yafai brothers but they're not world stars and doesn't look like they will be.
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It's never been a boxing city. Even when Kal was world champion he never fought in Birmingham.
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:'(
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Zhang’s doing well here.
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Parker's got back into it well.
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Zhang’s corner tells him he needs a knock out. What does he do? Absolutely nothing, barely a punch thrown.
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I make that 114-112 Parker.
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What a punch that was !!
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What a punch that was !!
Tough one as he probably shouldn't have been allowed to carry on after the second knockdown, but it would have been a big call to stop it at that point.
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Well done AJ. That's exactly how non-boxers should be dispatched at that level.
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Let’s see if Mike Tyson does that to Jake Paul in the latest farce fight
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Incredible by AJ. Fury looked worried.Wont be too harsh on ngannou he has fought two of the three best heavyweights in his first 2 fights. But he was out of his depth tonight
If he wants to stay in this sport needs to go fight some lower level boxers like takam, joyce zhang ruiz who are names. Personally think he should go back to UFC and fight jon Jones
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Not a chance Fury will take the AJ fight while AJ is looking confident. For all his talk he has an incredible ability to duck fights. AJ prepared like a pro for a huge money fight and did the job he should do. Fury is a disgrace for how out of shape he was for the Ngannou fight last time.
Wathching Ball was the best bit of the night though, what a little scrapper lol - should have had the decision too.
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Not a chance Fury will take the AJ fight while AJ is looking confident. For all his talk he has an incredible ability to duck fights. AJ prepared like a pro for a huge money fight and did the job he should do. Fury is a disgrace for how out of shape he was for the Ngannou fight last time.
Wathching Ball was the best bit of the night though, what a little scrapper lol - should have had the decision too.
I’ll still be shocked if Fury gets in the ring with Usyk let alone AJ
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Not a chance Fury will take the AJ fight while AJ is looking confident. For all his talk he has an incredible ability to duck fights. AJ prepared like a pro for a huge money fight and did the job he should do. Fury is a disgrace for how out of shape he was for the Ngannou fight last time.
Wathching Ball was the best bit of the night though, what a little scrapper lol - should have had the decision too.
I’ll still be shocked if Fury gets in the ring with Usyk let alone AJ
He looked in good shape in the pictures and footage over there. From a British perspective, hopefully Fury beats Usyk and then fights Joshua at Wembley (more likely to be in Saudi though).
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Fury isn't taking that fight. He will find many many ways to not be.
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Disagree, Fury didn’t take the Ngannou fight seriously and almost paid the price.
Don’t be fooled, he will be well up for Usyk and AJ.
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Disagree, Fury didn’t take the Ngannou fight seriously and almost paid the price.
Don’t be fooled, he will be well up for Usyk and AJ.
I have to agree.
I think Fury beats Usyk on size alone. I think he'll move him around, attack on the outside and disrupt his rhythm. (If not, Usyk is an even more accomplished fighter than I thought, and I rate him very highly already.)
I think Fury beats Joshua on unpredictability. AJ looks better against more technical opponents because as a late developer and Olympian, he has been taught to pick apart fighters who adopt a technical approach.
Taking no credit away from AJ whatsoever, because it was a proper demolition job, he clearly saw Ngannou was trying to 'box', but wasn't moving his head and was dropping his left after throwing a shot, leaving him open to the right cross and hook. He executed beautifully, but no way would Fury's head be in the kind of space you'd expect it to be in for a man fighting technically correct - he fights intuitively and his head could be fucking anywhere.
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Let’s see if Mike Tyson does that to Jake Paul in the latest farce fight
The saddest thing about that fight isn't that I think Tyson should be above it; but I think Jake Paul should be above it.
I hate 'influencer boxers', but Paul has at least shown he has technique and power. He shouldn't be fighting a 57-year old. Even if, 35 years ago, that 57-year old was one of the best fighters the sport has seen.
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Indeed, it’s utterly ridiculous.
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On a more positive note, tonight's bill promises to be a cracker.
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Switched on for the Joyce fight….saw the end of the Parker fight, his opponent seemed a character
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Parker was down in the second but Zeuge didn't do much after that.
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Not an exciting performance by Joyce….he always seems way to slow but most of time he gets the job done
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And exactly the opposite from Liam Davies. It might end before midnight after all.
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Davies v impressive
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I'm knackered just watching that.
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Me too, thought draw was reasonable - good fight
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Superb fight thought Heaney just won it.
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I gave it to Heaney by two but he should have had points deducted for holding and the gumshield loss.
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Dillian Whyte just beat Christian Hammer with a third round corner retirement.
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Will anyone be bothering tonight?
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Moses Itauma is very impressive.
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In for the last fight…can’t say ever seen either of these before
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None of the card so far has gone the distance and it looks like this one won't, either.
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Wouldn’t have put anything on that result after round 1
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That's what boxing is all about. 33 years old, a pro for thirteen years, 17-10-2. Cut, lost the first two rounds and won in the sixth.
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That's what boxing is all about. 33 years old, a pro for thirteen years, 17-10-2. Cut, lost the first two rounds and won in the sixth.
He threw a serious amount of punches as well….whirlwind
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I loved his line about the cut, "I know it was a punch. I felt it".
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Was a good interview…I want to see him fight the European champ also now :-)
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Was a good interview…I want to see him fight the European champ also now :-)
That would be a good match up.
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And onto tonight's proceedings.
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I was browsing the sports news this morning and, weirdly, for some reason Kirkland Laing sprang to mind.
I remembered that he was pretty good, too, but never really achieved what he was, undoubtedly, capable of.
I’d forgotten, until I googled him, that he’d beaten Roberto Duran.
He sadly passed away in 2021
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My favourite ever boxer. Beat the best, lost to the worst, more natural talent than any I've ever seen. Pure box office. Ray Leonard did a good impression of him, but took it too seriously to be a proper Kirkland tribute act.
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Don't know anything about Frazer Clarke's opponent tonight Fabio Wardley, other than he's won all his 17 fights, with 16 stoppages, hopefully it's gonna be a good fight.
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Don't know anything about Frazer Clarke's opponent tonight Fabio Wardley, other than he's won all his 17 fights, with 16 stoppages, hopefully it's gonna be a good fight.
He's got more pro experience despite being younger and Boxing News have tipped him to win with a late stoppage.
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I've got it 2-2 so far but no way will this go to the scorecards.
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Saved by the bell but Clarke will do well to pull this back
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Saved by the bell but Clarke will do well to pull this back
Yep. Wardley starting to boss it a bit.
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Said that, but he looks like he is tiring a bit now.
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He does. I've got it 76-74.
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He does. I've got it 76-74.
Nose injury looks a bad one.
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He does. I've got it 76-74.
Nose injury looks a bad one.
The ring floor looks like a Jackson Pollock
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Great fight could be a draw
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Great fight could be a draw
Good chance of that I'd say.
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Draw fair…not sure where the 115-112 to Clarke came from with a 10-8 and point deduction
Happily watch that again
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That was pure excitement from the first bell. I can't remember the last heavyweight fight that good.
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Was a class fight….how domestic scene should be sorted out. Get it on again hopefully
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Was a class fight….how domestic scene should be sorted out. Get it on again hopefully
Yep and a big event for for a fight that was not a world title contest.
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I had it as a draw and that was being kind to Clarke in the later rounds. I can see how Wardley could have won it by three but not the other way round. The point deduction was fair but Wardley did get away with at least three backhands so perhaps justice was done.
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Yet again, this fight showed the difference between top boxers and mere mortals. Any one of those punches would have had us waking up sometime next week (Jon Crofts and Big Daz excepted, obvs) yet they both took clean shots for twelve rounds and barely flinched.
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Top of the bill tonight should be good but the rest of the card isn't up to much.
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Willie Limmond has died ten days after a brain seizure. He was 45.
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Willie Limmond has died ten days after a brain seizure. He was 45.
Just read that, mad so young! Very decent fighter in his day RIP
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Tonight's bill isn't up to much but in the early hours Devin Hamey v Ryan Garcia could be interesting. If you haven't been following it, Garcia has been melting down all over social media in recent months, weighed in 3 pounds overweight, paid a $1.5 million forfeit and starting drinking beer on the scales.
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Nokes looked good although Mendy was in thereto see the 12 rounds out which he did. Interesting to see if he can go further, nice set of belts he has now though
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Yeah a very impressive performance, all 3 judges gave it 120-108 to him, first time he's gone 12 rounds.
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There's a good fight on YouTube now - Shakiel Thompson v Vladimir Georgiev.