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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Brend'Watkins on March 23, 2023, 03:51:28 PM
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Just when we're on a bit of a roll and things are looking well set for a good run till the end of the season we have an International break to screw us over. There are potential upsides I suppose, Kamara possibly available for the Chelsea game but more than likely it will be another few games he'll miss because that's what happens to us. Spuds will have a resurgence of form most unexpectedly and for no apparent reason. Rashford is too injured to go, is he, is he really? Bet he plays in ManU's next game. And Harold will reach some record or other which thinking about it is where Totteham will get their lift from. Roll on April 1st.
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I hate them too. I can cope with the lack of football, but not the tedious debates on who ought to be in the England team.
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I'm so bored I almost downloaded Football Manager. But then I'd have to muck around with the database to make football less hateful (I'm not dealing with the shit in fantasyland like I have to in real life) and then there would go the weekend. And the following week. And the fo - well you get the idea.
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I end up finding other things to do or watching anything that's on except England. I just can't get into this England squad at all and certainly not the manager. I tend to try and find Argentina games now to watch Emi and now Emi's.
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Ill watch the match tonight for something to do and because my son is kind of into it. But international weekends are generally souless affairs, its not like summer, when you have nicer weather and are full of pre season hope, its just an irritation, its gets in the way of the Villa….and listening to Southgate drone on, gawd!!
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Qualifiers should be done in tournament form
get them all done in month slots rather than a week here and there
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
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Yes they're crap and even worse when there's no American Football on.
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I end up finding other things to do or watching anything that's on except England. I just can't get into this England squad at all and certainly not the manager. I tend to try and find Argentina games now to watch Emi and now Emi's.
what TV said
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
With any luck Diego won’t be the only one.
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Qualifiers should be done in tournament form
get them all done in month slots rather than a week here and there
That's a great idea!
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I Hate International Breaks.
Just wait till people realise Stevie G is one of the pundits tonight.
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I Hate International Breaks.
Just wait till people realise Stevie G is one of the pundits tonight.
Has he been on holiday to Florida as well?!
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I Hate International Breaks.
Just wait till people realise Stevie G is one of the pundits tonight.
Has he been on holiday to Florida as well?!
I did say his next job will be in the MSL, I wonder if he's knocking on Beckham's door, screaming 'Gis a job!'.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Oh God I forgot it was in Naples. Haven't they suffered enough?
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Beyond belief.
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Non-zero chance of actual death carrying on like that.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Beyond belief.
If you want to find some twats, England supporters are a good place to start.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
It's the same idiot from Burnley that flew the 'White Lives Matter' over Turfmoor a couple of years ago. Enough said.
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I Hate International Breaks.
Just wait till people realise Stevie G is one of the pundits tonight.
Dean Smith always called it an International period.
I agree with him.
Wonder what SG calls it?
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I Hate International Breaks.
Just wait till people realise Stevie G is one of the pundits tonight.
Dean Smith always called it an International period.
I agree with him.
Wonder what SG calls it?
Networking.
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Networking.
Gis a job, I can do dat!
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I'm so bored I almost downloaded Football Manager. But then I'd have to muck around with the database to make football less hateful (I'm not dealing with the shit in fantasyland like I have to in real life) and then there would go the weekend. And the following week. And the fo - well you get the idea.
Am bored enough to ask what you’d change? Bankrupt Man City and PSG?
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I Hate International Breaks.
Just wait till people realise Stevie G is one of the pundits tonight.
Dean Smith always called it an International period.
I agree with him.
Wonder what SG calls it?
Networking.
Very Good!
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Networking.
Gis a job, I can do dat!
There has been talk SG could become the England under 21 manager in the summer.
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I'm so bored I almost downloaded Football Manager. But then I'd have to muck around with the database to make football less hateful (I'm not dealing with the shit in fantasyland like I have to in real life) and then there would go the weekend. And the following week. And the fo - well you get the idea.
Am bored enough to ask what you’d change? Bankrupt Man City and PSG?
Fuck yes, but it's the tip of the iceberg. Reducing the gap between rich and poor, making the EPL less dominant, maybe putting Joe in like, Turkey.
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When did it become so dull and uninteresting? I know I enjoyed International games during my teen years.
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When did it become so dull and uninteresting? I know I enjoyed International games during my teen years.
Because everything else stops. You used to have midweek internationals then back to normal at the weekend. Or if internationals were at the weekend, they kicked off at 3.
There's too much now, and if you're anything like me, old and cynical, you're sick and tired of wankers like Southgate dragging everything down to favourites, ignoring the exciting talent and being constantly rewarded for failure.
Every football fan I know detests the break.
I hope England get fucking thrashed tonight.
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There definitely seem to be more international fixtures than there were thirty years ago. It would explain why that Bobby Charlton scoring record that stood for years is going to be broken again by Kane.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Someone's looking to get a nice pair of slashed arse cheeks.
Or is that more of a Rome thing, Monty?
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Beyond belief.
It's the fact that I get lumped in with cretinous ****** like that that limits how much of a shit I give about England.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
It's the same idiot from Burnley that flew the 'White Lives Matter' over Turfmoor a couple of years ago. Enough said.
If that's true I actively hope he meets some people who think his white life doesn't matter. And I'm sure he will.
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He's probably one of those sad twats that do flags like that so as they get a mention on 'away days' pages. Considering the kickabout between England and Italian fans was called off due to threats I have my doubts he'll display that flag anywhere other than when he's in the ground behind a fence.
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Alexa, how do I commit suicide in Naples?
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Beyond belief.
It's the fact that I get lumped in with cretinous ****** like that that limits how much of a shit I give about England.
Ive missed this, what’s the story?
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Beyond belief.
It's the fact that I get lumped in with cretinous ****** like that that limits how much of a shit I give about England.
Ive missed this, what’s the story?
Diego Maradona died.
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What odds that he and all the ones that will no doubt think it's great on social media would be the ones most up in arms if the Italians had a banner mocking the Queen dying?
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When did it become so dull and uninteresting? I know I enjoyed International games during my teen years.
Because everything else stops. You used to have midweek internationals then back to normal at the weekend. Or if internationals were at the weekend, they kicked off at 3.
There's too much now, and if you're anything like me, old and cynical, you're sick and tired of wankers like Southgate dragging everything down to favourites, ignoring the exciting talent and being constantly rewarded for failure.
Every football fan I know detests the break.
I hope England get fucking thrashed tonight.
That’s it a nutshell isn’t it.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Someone's looking to get a nice pair of slashed arse cheeks.
Or is that more of a Rome thing, Monty?
Yeah that's the Rome thing, designed to not kill but be a real, well, pain in the arse.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Someone's looking to get a nice pair of slashed arse cheeks.
Or is that more of a Rome thing, Monty?
Yeah that's the Rome thing, designed to not kill but be a real, well, pain in the arse.
Just the sheer inconvenience. Going to the toilet must be agony, and presumably it's weeks before you can sit down or even lie on your back.
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That was something often done in Glasgow in the past.
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Remember the Glasgow brick?
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Beyond belief.
It's the fact that I get lumped in with cretinous ****** like that that limits how much of a shit I give about England.
Ive missed this, what’s the story?
Diego Maradona died.
Or as this site had it (https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53329.11600)
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Is it like a Millwall brick?
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Yeah, sure it was Glasgow before millwall, might be wrong though
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What's a 'Glasgow brick'? (Other than a Rangers fan who can't pronounce his Ps, ho ho.)
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What's a 'Glasgow brick'? (Other than a Rangers fan who can't pronounce his Ps, ho ho.)
If it's like a Millwall brick then it's a newspaper rolled a certain way, often with something like coins in the middle, that becomes as solid as a brick. Easy to carry round a newspaper in public places, not so much a housebrick.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Someone's looking to get a nice pair of slashed arse cheeks.
Or is that more of a Rome thing, Monty?
Yeah that's the Rome thing, designed to not kill but be a real, well, pain in the arse.
Just the sheer inconvenience. Going to the toilet must be agony, and presumably it's weeks before you can sit down or even lie on your back.
Just such a weird thing to have as your signature. Though let's be fair, it's a significant brutality climbdown from the Romans, who back in the day were into all kinds of shit and as late as the 19th Century would publicly club some criminals to death as a form of entertainment.
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What's a 'Glasgow brick'? (Other than a Rangers fan who can't pronounce his Ps, ho ho.)
I've heard of the (in)famous Glasgow kiss. Never heard of a Glasgow brick.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Full marks for correct use of the apostrophe though.
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Had his ticket cancelled by the FA.
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His mate clearly didn't want to risk it
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Not something you can say all that often but well done to the FA. Shame about the twats who chanted it during the game though.
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A €10,000 bounty put on his head apparently too.
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A €10,000 bounty put on his head apparently too.
Blimey, chocolate bars are getting more expensive as well as smaller.
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A €10,000 bounty put on his head apparently too.
Pahaha a bounty, Naples is so fucking mental.
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
Poundshop midlife crisis.
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His mate clearly didn't want to risk it
And failed to get the Stone Island badge in.
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His mate clearly didn't want to risk it
And failed to get the Stone Island badge in.
What an amateur.
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His mate clearly didn't want to risk it
And failed to get the Stone Island badge in.
What an amateur.
Pep, Klopp or Kamara would never make that mistake.
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I'm so bored I almost downloaded Football Manager. But then I'd have to muck around with the database to make football less hateful (I'm not dealing with the shit in fantasyland like I have to in real life) and then there would go the weekend. And the following week. And the fo - well you get the idea.
Am bored enough to ask what you’d change? Bankrupt Man City and PSG?
Fuck yes, but it's the tip of the iceberg. Reducing the gap between rich and poor, making the EPL less dominant, maybe putting Joe in like, Turkey.
Do they still allow you to select brand new generated player database?
I remember playing one years back that basically just deleted all real life players & then generated the whole of the worlds playing squad.
It was great not having to ignore the best players because I despised them in real life...
Scouting was fun too, cos I didn't know anything about anybody...
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Not the thing you want to do traveling to Naples. Some fucking England fans are such complete wankers
It's the same idiot from Burnley that flew the 'White Lives Matter' over Turfmoor a couple of years ago. Enough said.
He deserves to meet some of the 'ultras' from Napoli in a dark alley...
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Scouting was fun too, cos I didn't know anything about anybody...
You are Jesús García Pitarch and I claim my £5.
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Scouting was fun too, cos I didn't know anything about anybody...
You are Jesús García Pitarch and I claim my £5.
qué?
I have seen this "claim my £5" before... What is it all about?
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Scouting was fun too, cos I didn't know anything about anybody...
You are Jesús García Pitarch and I claim my £5.
qué?
I have seen this "claim my £5" before... What is it all about?
Our previous director of football before Lange, Suso. Scouted like he didn't know anything about anybody.
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I know who he is, Im just wondering what the £5 thing is about... ;D
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I know who he is, Im just wondering what the £5 thing is about... ;D
Lobby Lud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud)
Lobby Lud is a fictional character created in August 1927 by the Westminster Gazette, a British newspaper, now defunct. The character was used in readers' prize competitions during the summer period. Anonymous employees visited seaside resorts and afterwards wrote down a detailed description of the town they visited, without giving away its name. They also described a person they happened to see that day and declared him to be the "Lobby Lud" of that issue. Readers were given a pass phrase and had to try to guess both the location and the person described by the reporters. Anyone carrying the newspaper could challenge Lobby Lud with the phrase and receive five pounds (about £320 in 2023[1]).
The competition was created because people on holiday were known to be less likely to buy a newspaper. Some towns and large factories had holiday fortnights (called "wakes weeks" in the north of England); the town or works would all decamp at the same time. Circulation could drop considerably in the summer and proprietors hoped prizes would increase it.
The character's name was derived from the paper's telegraphic address, "Lobby, Ludgate".
The British colloquial phrase "You are (name) and I claim my five pounds" is associated with Lobby Lud, despite being based on a similar idea thought up by a different paper.
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Private Eye used to say it a lot. They might still do.
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Private Eye used to say it a lot. They might still do.
Going way, way back.
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I learnt about Lobby Lud from Brookside.
Harry Cross: That you Edna?
Edna Cross: Who do you think it is? Lobby Lud?
I had to ask the old lads at work what she meant, my (Irish) Mom and Dad didn't have a clue. Having recently watched "Brighton Rock" the character Kolley Kibber sounds like it was based on Lobby Lud.
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Never heard of that before.... Live & learn... ;D
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No, if there's one good thing come from this international break it's that I finally understand where "... and I claim my £5" comes from
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Never heard of that before.... Live & learn... ;D
I wasn't aware of its provenance either but it has been used on here quite a bit and is fairly self-explanatory.
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Usually when it's the international break weekend Sky will televise a couple of games from League 1 and/or 2. This weekend, as far as I can see, nothing.
Edit: actually, I see Forest Green v Sheffield Wednesday is on tomorrow lunchtime.
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I'm so bored I almost downloaded Football Manager. But then I'd have to muck around with the database to make football less hateful (I'm not dealing with the shit in fantasyland like I have to in real life) and then there would go the weekend. And the following week. And the fo - well you get the idea.
Am bored enough to ask what you’d change? Bankrupt Man City and PSG?
Fuck yes, but it's the tip of the iceberg. Reducing the gap between rich and poor, making the EPL less dominant, maybe putting Joe in like, Turkey.
Do they still allow you to select brand new generated player database?
I remember playing one years back that basically just deleted all real life players & then generated the whole of the worlds playing squad.
It was great not having to ignore the best players because I despised them in real life...
Scouting was fun too, cos I didn't know anything about anybody...
Ha I've never tried that! That sounds wild to be fair, just embracing the pure fiction side. Might try it one day.
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Saturday is the worst part isn't it?
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Saturday is the worst part isn't it?
Yes my son has just finished his game and you think who is on at 12.30 .3, and 5.30 etc
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Saturday is the worst part isn't it?
YES annoying. I was trying to keep away from this thread taking or trying to take a view that it's ok and it's necessary but fuck NO, it's horrible.
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I've just had to drive to Leicester to take my middle daughter to a birthday party, only to find my wife had buggered up the times and it's not until this afternoon. So now I've got to drive to Leicester again, which is never a pastime that I enjoy very much, and I can't even sit and watch football on my phone while I'm there.
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Saturday is the worst part isn't it?
It's shit.
If no international football at all is the price to pay for having an uninterrupted league campaign, ban away.
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Good news is that John will be leading the Scots charge against Cyprus at 2.00.
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Just been watching one of them old Big Match programmes, lets face it there's fuck all else on.. The rags were away at QPR and to be fair, they looked OK. I was roaring at the likes of Dennis, Dillon and Gemmil who had ref 'round the neck at one point the fucking tramp.
Anyway, a last minute equaliser made me a smile as well as the fact that Carrott was there to watch it.
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I've just had to drive to Leicester to take my middle daughter to a birthday party, only to find my wife had buggered up the times and it's not until this afternoon. So now I've got to drive to Leicester again, which is never a pastime that I enjoy very much, and I can't even sit and watch football on my phone while I'm there.
One of your middle daughters, surely?!
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I'm the same I miss watching us play it doesn't feel the same without it.
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Saturday is the worst part isn't it?
I finish work at 6am on a Saturday morning and I usually hate going to bed and missing half my Saturday. Balls to it in international week though.
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How did it work in the 80s? Just playing the qualifiers mid week? But then I see highlights of classic home nations matches and they're in blazing sunshine so suggests they were weekend games.
For as long as I remember there's always been internationals in September, October and then March/April.
One I dislike is the November break, should just have one round of fixtures midweek as that wasn't a thing until a decade or so ago.
Pretty sure in next year or two they're scrapping the September one and will have the matches in October instead (although Uefa/Fifa will probably insist there's a europa nations conference league in its place).
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This break has dragged on for months. I'll never disdain an ordinary league game again.
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How did it work in the 80s? Just playing the qualifiers mid week? But then I see highlights of classic home nations matches and they're in blazing sunshine so suggests they were weekend games.
There were no breaks in Leagues. All internationals were midweek and players would turn up on Monday and be back with their club on Thursday morning. Only one international game at a time. There is far too much unnecessary baggage attached to international games nowdays. Home nations game were an end of season finale.
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How did it work in the 80s? Just playing the qualifiers mid week? But then I see highlights of classic home nations matches and they're in blazing sunshine so suggests they were weekend games.
There were no breaks in Leagues. All internationals were midweek and players would turn up on Monday and be back with their club on Thursday morning. Only one international game at a time. There is far too much unnecessary baggage attached to international games nowdays. Home nations game were an end of season finale.
No breaks but there were often qualifiers at end of season from 1980 onwards and then sometimes end of season tours. Oz 83, S America 84 (missed out on Euros), Mexico 85
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How did it work in the 80s? Just playing the qualifiers mid week? But then I see highlights of classic home nations matches and they're in blazing sunshine so suggests they were weekend games.
For as long as I remember there's always been internationals in September, October and then March/April.
One I dislike is the November break, should just have one round of fixtures midweek as that wasn't a thing until a decade or so ago.
Pretty sure in next year or two they're scrapping the September one and will have the matches in October instead (although Uefa/Fifa will probably insist there's a europa nations conference league in its place).
The Home Internationals games were played at the end of the season. At a time with little live football on TV they we’re quite a big deal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Home_Championship
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There was no need for international breaks then; if you had players picked your match would be postponed until a suitable date and if you had four to play when everyone else had finished, you won them all and stayed up ((C) Coventry, 1985.
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I'm sure a model could be built where each qualifying group had a mini tournament once the domestic season had ended, end of May/start of June in the odd numbered years. Get them all done in a small window of time and leave the domestic campaign uninterrupted.
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Yeah but that makes it seem more like a tournament which dilutes the excitement of Championship and Cup.
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I've enjoyed this international break. England have done a lot of early yards in the group that will hopefully mean qualifying is mundane, which is the aim.
Scotland 2-0 Spain was a fabulous watch the other night and I don't hate having a Villa detox for a fortnight. It means I'm looking forward to Saturday rather than it being just another game on the treadmill
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England qualifying for a tournament is now always mundane, indeed the composition of the groups appear to ensure it's ever thus. It's precisely this mundane nature of qualification that makes the international breaks such a bore.
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So it's Malta and North Macedonia up next but not till June so no disruption to the league. The disruption proper starts up September 9th with the return Ukraine match played wherever. Then, a friendly with Scotland on the 12th.
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This has felt like a long break to me, glad its nearly over.
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Disappointed for Watkins not making the sqaud but I do feel Southgate doesn't totally fancy him for whatever reason.
Several Manchester City players will be opting out the match away in Malta on 16th June.
I think Mings who richly deserved his call up could be in contention to play some part if not start that one.
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Off Season Fixtures.
(I haven't included Olsen for Sweden and his Fixtures)
And interesting to note Brazil have no arranged matches.
Euro Qualifying Matches off season
Gibraltar v France 16th June Euro
Norway v Scotland 17th June
England v North Macedonia 19th June
France v Greece 19th June
Scotland v Georgia 20th June
African Cup of Nations Qualifying Matches off season.
Cape Verde v Burkina Faso 18th June
Friendlies off season
Jamaica v Qatar 15th June
Argentina v Australia 15th June
Poland v Germany 16th June
Indonesia v Argentina 19th June
Jamaica Jordan 19th June
Germany v Colombia 20th June
Concacaf Gold Cup
Group Stages Jamaica have at least 3 matches and more if progress
Vs USA 25th June
Vs Nicaragua 29th June
And TBD 3 July
To Note
Nations League Finals
Semi Finals
Croatia v Netherlands 14th June
Spain v Italy in the semi 15th June
Nations League Final 18th June
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Great foresight.
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Roddy Foresight.
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Just wanted to give foresight with the fixtures coming up that there are 10 Villa players away on international duty and West Ham have 11.
Tuesday 17th is particularly insightful to note Villa players could be in action against each other.
Thursday October 12
Olsen - Sweden v Moldova
Duran - Colombia v Uruguay
Bailey- Grenidere v Jamaica
Martinez -Argentina v Paraguay
Pau v McGinn- Spain v Scotland
Cash - Pharaoh islands v Poland
Friday October 13
Watkins -England v Australia
Kamara- Netherlands v France
Tielenans - Austria v Belgium
Saturday October 14
Zaniolo - Italy v Malta
Sunday October 15
Bailey - Jamaica v Haiti
Pau- Norway v Spain
Cash- Moldova v Poland
Monday October 16
Tielenans v Olsen - Belgium v Sweden
Tuesday October 17
Watkins v Zaniolo -England v Italy
Kamara v McGinn - France v Scotland
Wednesday October 18
Martinez - Argentina v Peru
Dhuran - Ecuador v Colombia
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Just wanted to give foresight with the fixtures coming up that there are 10 Villa players away on international duty and West Ham have 11.
Tuesday 17th is particularly insightful to note Villa players could be in action against each other.
Cheers FV, a useful summary for this week's Villa-related fixtures. You forgot to mention Alexandria Moreno playing against Poland though.
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I'm sure a model could be built where each qualifying group had a mini tournament once the domestic season had ended, end of May/start of June in the odd numbered years. Get them all done in a small window of time and leave the domestic campaign uninterrupted.
I'm pretty sure eventually they're changing the windows in first part of the season and they'll be a combined one end of September/October. Bit like last season when due to the World cup there wasn't international break at start of September and instead it was played at end of the month instead.
To me it makes more sense to play 3 games if possible and so you just have two breaks up to xmas rather than have three separate blocks of double headers.
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Just wanted to give foresight with the fixtures coming up that there are 10 Villa players away on international duty and West Ham have 11.
Tuesday 17th is particularly insightful to note Villa players could be in action against each other.
Thursday October 12
Olsen - Sweden v Moldova
Duran - Colombia v Uruguay
Bailey- Grenidere v Jamaica
Martinez -Argentina v Paraguay
Pau v McGinn- Spain v Scotland
Cash - Pharaoh islands v Poland
Friday October 13
Watkins -England v Australia
Kamara- Netherlands v France
Tielenans - Austria v Belgium
Saturday October 14
Zaniolo - Italy v Malta
Sunday October 15
Bailey - Jamaica v Haiti
Pau- Norway v Spain
Cash- Moldova v Poland
Monday October 16
Tielenans v Olsen - Belgium v Sweden
Tuesday October 17
Watkins v Zaniolo -England v Italy
Kamara v McGinn - France v Scotland
Wednesday October 18
Martinez - Argentina v Peru
Dhuran - Ecuador v Colombia
Repeated use of Tielenans? Fits to be fair, he's playing like one.
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All I do during International breaks is pray that they are injury free. Would be quite happy if international football ceased.
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All I do during International breaks is pray that they are injury free. Would be quite happy if international football ceased.
Same, it’s ridiculous the amount of International games.
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I hate Gareth Southgate.
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Spain v Scotland Euro Qualifier. Pau v McGinn
745pm
I don't know if Scotland will get anything over in Spain today. Since they lost to Scotland
Spain beat Italy and then Croatia on pens to win the nation's league.
Then won 7-1 away in Georgia and 6-0 home to Cyprus.
It'll be nightly impressive if Scotland get a result tonight.
I won't be giving any definite forecast but instead keep an eye on the events.
Good luck McGinn!
Good luck Pau!
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This one surely suits us with a few players getting more time to recover from knocks
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This one surely suits us with a few players getting more time to recover from knocks
I totally agree with you.
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Used to love these breaks when we were struggling, some mid season respite from watching us getting smashed by the likes of Swansea or Watford. Don't care for them now mind, especially with a team full of internationals praying they don't pick up a knock.
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Used to love these breaks when we were struggling, some mid season respite from watching us getting smashed by the likes of Swansea or Watford. Don't care for them now mind, especially with a team full of internationals praying they don't pick up a knock.
Ah thems was the days... When small city / town clubs would come to Villa park and play possession football and we looked mildly stunned. When we inevitably whacked it long down a channel we hear a loud 'HOOOOFF' noise from the away end. Happy memories.
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International football, outside of tournaments, is dull as hell. I can't be arsed with it at all.
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And then fans of said clubs coming onto this board to tell us what football is.
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Surely it would be beneficial they have international months where they can knock out 5 or 6 qualifiers ?
At the moment we have September October and November breaks which one is a real pain , why not consolidate to just October and then do the same in February ?
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And then fans of said clubs coming onto this board to tell us what football is.
They were usually right self important see you next Tuesdays, aswell
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That's a lot of weeks of non-international top division footballers sitting around doing nothing and then the "top top super duper" internationals will still be crying about needing a winter break.
I can survive the odd weekend without a club game
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Surely it would be beneficial they have international months where they can knock out 5 or 6 qualifiers ?
Beneficial for whom?
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Surely it would be beneficial they have international months where they can knock out 5 or 6 qualifiers ?
Beneficial for whom?
Manily selfish clubcentric me ;) . But I also think Gareth and co would benefit having a group together for longer less drop outs , just an idea
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And then fans of said clubs coming onto this board to tell us what football is.
They were usually right self important see you next Tuesdays, aswell
Yeah, and I got so sick of it I ended up blasting out the next one that appeared, only it was the Cardiff lad who it turns out was pretty sound.
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And then fans of said clubs coming onto this board to tell us what football is.
They were usually right self important see you next Tuesdays, aswell
Yeah, and I got so sick of it I ended up blasting out the next one that appeared, only it was the Cardiff lad who it turns out was pretty sound.
Yeah, he's a good lad. Is he still around on here?
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And then fans of said clubs coming onto this board to tell us what football is.
They were usually right self important see you next Tuesdays, aswell
Yeah, and I got so sick of it I ended up blasting out the next one that appeared, only it was the Cardiff lad who it turns out was pretty sound.
Yeah, he's a good lad. Is he still around on here?
He pops in now and again, obvs last season he was doing updates on Philogene.
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The international period is thus over till next time
Wed 15th November
Belgium Serbia friendly
Thursday 16th November
Euro Qualifier
Georgia v Scotland
Cyprus v Spain
SA Qualifier midnight Friday 17th
Argentina v Uruguay
Colombia v Brazil
Friday 17th November
Euro Qualifier:
England v Malta
Italy v North Macedonia
Poland v Czech Republic
Saturday 18th November
France v Gibraltar
Sunday 19th
Euro Qualifer
Scotland v Norway
Spain v Georgia
Belgium v Azerbaijan
Monday 20th November
Euro Qualifer
North Macedonia v England
Tuesday 21st November
Euro Qualifer:Greece v France
SA Qualifier Paraguay v Colombia 11pm
Poland v Latvia friendly
Wednesday 22nd November 1230am.
Brazil v Argentina SA Qualifier
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I see Neymar tore his ACL and meniscus in a qualifier vs Uruguay last night.
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England squad
Goalkeepers: Sam Johnstone (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal)
Defenders: Levi Colwill (Chelsea), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Fikayo Tomori (AC Milan), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle), Kyle Walker (Manchester City)
Midfielders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Jordan Henderson (Al-Ettifaq), Kalvin Phillips (Manchester City), Declan Rice (Arsenal)
Forwards: Jarrod Bowen (West Ham), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), James Maddison (Tottenham), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa), Callum Wilson (Newcastle)
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Absolutely disgraceful that Mason isn’t in the squad.
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Absolutely disgraceful that Mason isn’t in the squad.
I mean he signed for Man Utd, what more has he got to do?
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so games against Malta and North Macedonia . That's really going to get the juices flowing
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Maguire
LOL!
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Now, as many of you have probably worked out, I'm no fan of VAR, but in the context of Monday's match it just added to the chaos. This is likely to be the reason I watched a non Vila Monday night match to it's conclusion for the first time in years.
Southgate described it as "boring". It tells you all you need to know about him.
As was noted a while back, he's the sort of person that probably welcomes an old pub being converted into a McDonalds.
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He definitely prefers a nice gastro pub that does wood fired pizzas.
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He definitely prefers a nice gastro pub that does wood fired pizzas.
Far too racey for Gareth, he’d prefer a Toby Carvery the boring waist coated wanker.
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so games against Malta and North Macedonia . That's really going to get the juices flowing
Totally agree with you Tim.
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Now, as many of you have probably worked out, I'm no fan of VAR, but in the context of Monday's match it just added to the chaos. This is likely to be the reason I watched a non Vila Monday night match to it's conclusion for the first time in years.
Southgate described it as "boring". It tells you all you need to know about him.
As was noted a while back, he's the sort of person that probably welcomes an old pub being converted into a McDonalds.
I’m no Southgate fan (as a manager at least) but I think the context to the ‘boring’ description was that he was at the game and it stopped about 10 times and at no point did anyone at the game know why and also that despite the dozen added minutes the ball was in play one of the lowest amounts of time of the season.
Watching on the tv was hilarious as a neutral but I’m with him that it’d be boring as a neutral in the ground and infuriating as a supporter with the lack of info
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If the others called up hold their place from last time, we now have a current international in the England, Spain, France, Italy, Brazil and Argentina squads. I make that a German, Dutchman and possibly a Uruguayan short of the full set.
I've ommitted Belgium, Scotland, Colombia etc as they aren't traditionally what I would PERSONALLY consider top tier countries, so if Hamish McTwatface wants to get shirty...save it.
Anyway, good stuff. We are good at the football.
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I've ommitted Belgium, Scotland, Colombia etc as they aren't traditionally what I would PERSONALLY consider top tier countries, so if Hamish McTwatface wants to get shirty...save it.
World Champions in 1967.
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England have been drawn against the Republic of Ireland, Finland and Greece in their League B group for the men's 2024-25 Nations League.
Scotland, who feature in the top League A groups, will face Croatia, Poland and Portugal.
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Uefa Nations League 2024-25 groups
League A
Group A1: Croatia, Portugal, Poland, Scotland
Group A2: Italy, Belgium, France, Israel
Group A3: Netherlands, Hungary, Germany, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Group A4: Spain, Denmark, Switzerland, Serbia
League B
Group B1: Czech Republic, Ukraine, Albania, Georgia
Group B2: England, Finland, Republic of Ireland, Greece
Group B3: Austria, Norway, Slovenia, Kazakhstan
Group B4: Wales, Iceland, Montenegro, Turkey
League C
Group C1: Sweden, Azerbaijan, Slovakia, Estonia
Group C2: Romania, Kosovo, Cyprus, Lithuania/Gibraltar*
Group C3: Luxembourg, Bulgaria, Northern Ireland, Belarus
Group C4: Armenia, Faroe Islands, North Macedonia, Latvia
Gibraltar and Lithuania face a play-out, effectively a relegation play-off to see who ends in Leagues C and D, in March 2024.
League D
Group D1: Lithuania/Gibraltar, San Marino, Liechtenstein
Group D2: Moldova, Malta, Andorra
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The last international break comes between March 18 and 26 this includes 2 friendlies for players we have who be representing Brazil, Belgium, England , Spain,France, Italy, Argentina , Scotland , Brazil, Belgium, France, Colombia and Sweden
Also
Euro 2024 playoff Qualifiers
Semi-finals (21 March) one leg ties
Path A: Poland vs Estonia, Wales vs Finland
Path B: Israel vs Iceland, Bosnia and Herzegovina vs Ukraine
Path C: Georgia vs Luxembourg, Greece vs Kazakhstan
Finals (26 March)
Path A: Wales/Finland vs Poland/Estonia
Path B: Bosnia and Herzegovina/Ukraine vs Israel/Iceland
Path C: Georgia/Luxembourg vs Greece/Kazakhstan
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I hate International breaks as well, but at least this one gives some of our squad time to rest and recuperate.
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Was thinking the same earlier. Think this break has come at a good time with a couple of our injuries, plus it's a chance for the players and management team to recharge ahead of one final push.
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I hate the breaks they are so boring , but for us this one is welcomed . Be good if Ramsey was back for the wolves game .
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I feel like I need a bit of a breather myself, never mind the players. Tense old times having something to play for.
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For us it’s a shame to see Luiz / Konsa called up…great for them but 2 weeks rest would have done them good…Ollie should get a break as the idiot will pick Kane to increase his record & he went out on a limb to defend Toney so will pick him over Ollie
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Even for the ones called up, I think the change of environment for 10 days might do them good, plus some of them won't be playing full games as they do with Villa. Brasil's games are in London and Madrid so at least Dougie won't have much travel.
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If Konsa and Ollie don't start but Dougie does then I cant be sure who I'll be cheering for. That's if I watch at all, mind.
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I shall take an interest in the games where we have players but couldn't give two fucks otherwise.
I'm really looking forward to the Championships in the Summer as well because I don't care for any team so I can just enjoy the football.
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Don’t mind it this time. We had a fairly positive weekend in terms of results, but I think a break will do us good.
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I hate the breaks they are so boring , but for us this one is welcomed . Be good if Ramsey was back for the wolves game .
I think Ramsey’s fitness for the Wolves game is pivotal. If he’s available I fancy us to get a win, without him I don’t.
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If Konsa and Ollie don't start but Dougie does then I cant be sure who I'll be cheering for. That's if I watch at all, mind.
Not that I'll be watching, but that's an easy call.....Brazil
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I hate the breaks they are so boring , but for us this one is welcomed . Be good if Ramsey was back for the wolves game .
I think Ramsey’s fitness for the Wolves game is pivotal. If he’s available I fancy us to get a win, without him I don’t.
Makes a huge difference down the left.
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If Konsa and Ollie don't start but Dougie does then I cant be sure who I'll be cheering for.
Obviously, it'll depend on which fans have the fewest national flags on display.
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Luiz vs Hendo part II
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If Konsa and Ollie don't start but Dougie does then I cant be sure who I'll be cheering for.
Obviously, it'll depend on which fans have the fewest national flags on display.
So you'll be supporting England. ;) As I'm sure you're more than aware, the Brazilians do love their flag and aren't afraid to show it.
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I imagine everyone' ambivalence to this break will be wearing thin by around 5pm on a cold wet Saturday.....
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We've made heavy going of a few recent games, despite getting OK results, so this probably comes at a good time.
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I imagine everyone' ambivalence to this break will be wearing thin by around 5pm on a cold wet Saturday.....
Especially now that the Six Nations is over, and there's nothing to fill the gap. :(
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We've made heavy going of a few recent games, despite getting OK results, so this probably comes at a good time.
Yep that’s where I am. Also from a personal point of view it’s quite nice to have a break from the stress of worrying about Villa’s (and other) results.
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I think this break has come at a decent time for us. On the back of a fairly positive weekend results-wise. And allows Ginny to stay active whilst a few others rest and hopefully Jacob can come back fit and raring. Plus I'm off to some Lanzarote sun* for warm weather training, ahead of the Wolves game and a season climax we've all dream't of for years with a top 4 place and cup to win.
*forecasts are not as great as hoped for but okay !
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If Konsa and Ollie don't start but Dougie does then I cant be sure who I'll be cheering for.
Obviously, it'll depend on which fans have the fewest national flags on display.
So you'll be supporting England. ;) As I'm sure you're more than aware, the Brazilians do love their flag and aren't afraid to show it.
Got to like the Brazilian flag and their National Anthem is a good listen.
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Article on what every club is doing over the break;
https://theathletic.com/5355833/2024/03/21/premier-league-international-break-where/ (https://theathletic.com/5355833/2024/03/21/premier-league-international-break-where/)
"The international break has given Aston Villa a much-needed breather. Unai Emery’s side have been beset by injuries all season and having progressed into the quarter-finals of the UEFA Europa Conference League, a thin squad will be tested during an unrelenting schedule.
So Emery has given his players — those who are not away with their countries — time off. He is expected to go abroad for a few days, while Monchi, president of football operations, has travelled to the United States for meetings with co-owner Wes Edens.
Meanwhile, those who are out injured remain working on getting back up to speed, and rest and time away is the order of the day for Villa’s squad."
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Had a dream that Villa raced into an insane 6-1 first half lead against Man Utd at VP. Ollie in the thick of things, but we had someone else up front for us and I wish I could remember so I could email Monchi. It might have been a woman.
God I'm bored.
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Had a dream that Villa raced into an insane 6-1 first half lead against Man Utd at VP. Ollie in the thick of things, but we had someone else up front for us and I wish I could remember so I could email Monchi. It might have been a woman.
Was it Brown Fox, the large breasted red indian Native American woman who played out wide for Fulchester United?
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Had a dream that Villa raced into an insane 6-1 first half lead against Man Utd at VP. Ollie in the thick of things, but we had someone else up front for us and I wish I could remember so I could email Monchi. It might have been a woman.
Was it Brown Fox, the large breasted red indian Native American woman who played out wide for Fulchester United?
Might have been Foxy Brown for all I know.
Actually I think it was an ex, which is why I woke up with familiar sensations of embarrassment and self-hatred. That or, you know, life.