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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on March 18, 2023, 04:54:35 PM
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Overall a very competent display. Great to win by a few goals too. Doug my MOM, but aside from a chance here or there for them, and that top save by Emi a comfortable win. And great to see when Ollie doesn’t score goals came from other places. Only concern remains the right wing. Bailey, his assist aside and one other good chance he created was a non entity. And Bert Traore. Fucking hell. Awful.
But excellent win and a good 3 points. 10th temporarily
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Great result.
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I cant remember the last time I felt as calm as that while watching one of our matches.
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Three goals, should have been more. Got to be happy with that. Not much to complain about, which is rare.
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I’m saying it quietly, but something special could be happening here sometime very soon .Hye Ho Aston Villa.
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Controlled,progressive football wth some sublime passages. Very encouraging.
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Great all round performance, happy with the 3 points and the fact we can win without kamara. The right 2 or 3 through the door this summer and we will be right in contention for Europe!
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Top half at last. Come on Everton.
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Great all round performance, happy with the 3 points and the fact we can win without kamara. The right 2 or 3 through the door this summer and we will be right in contention for Europe!
We are in contention now.
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Three goals, should have been more. Got to be happy with that. Not much to complain about, which is rare.
Very little to whinge about really bar Bailey and Buendia. There has been a complete transformation in playing style and tactical discipline under Emery. Thought McGinn and Luiz were outstanding. If our front players were really on it today we would have annihilated a very poor Bournemouth team.
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Great performance, ripped them to shreds repeatedly and really could've been a few more with better VAR and finishing.
motm is tough because there were some fantastic performances, Doug probably edging it slightly ahead of Ramsey, Mings, McGinn and Cash.
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Very professional, I was nervy until we got the 2nd as we've always got a bollock ready to drop, but great win.
McGinn motm, Ramsey driving forward with the ball a lot better.
Edit: Forgot to mention Moreno, thought he was really good as well. Pretty much everyone was tbf.
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It’s incredible what a truly professional, highly competent manager is doing for our club. The last one we had was MON, for all the ego that came with him, and for a second Houllier. Emery is better than all of them on a world level. This is just the start for us.
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Great result. ..Thank you boys. Good WE to all ..
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Is that 26 points from 14 games now?
Over a season that would be 70 points.
We're going places.
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We have the right manager, the right owners and a team that is going places. We haven't been this consistent in many years. Bloody fabulous
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Missing Kamara. I feel we're scraping through to the end of the season, with the players we have available. April will be a huge month with 7 matches.
Totally trust Emre to make the most of the summer window. UTV.
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Nice. Shocking VAR decision.
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How many times have we seen seasons fall apart because a manager cannot cope when a big player gets injured?
Unai seems to find a way to get a result regardless of the players available.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was sold out.
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Thankful that we got the two late goals because I really felt that the lack of VAR intervention on both of the handballs would haunt us. I genuinely don't understand the rules anymore, nor do I believe anybody who says thst they do.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was all sold out.
That picture was at half time just after the downpour, wasn't it?
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Some hairy moments but in general, as last week we looked in control which seems to be the overriding philosophy of Emery. Great forward play at times, just missing that finally ball. Doug and SJM were immense, Bailey and Buendia less so.
As for VAR, fucking ridiculous and pointless.
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https://twitter.com/wrightyavfc/status/1637118995479293953?t=aeAuGkzN5yTwjw2UApj3Ug&s=19
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A well deserved victory and comfortable in the end.
442 today!
Could and should have been more, but for some lousy officiating. Could someone please show that useless gimp with a whistle what a hand/lower arm looks like. As for var...pathetic and embarrassing after all the years it’s been operative!
Cash for me was motm. Moreno very good going forwards!
Luiz bossed the midfield.
Buendia loose with the ball at times, but he stuck in there and got his goal!
Special mention for Mings and that race back and clearance in the 2nd half! He has a never say die attitude! Well done Villa boys! UTV!
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Enjoyed that. Well done, Villa.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was all sold out.
That picture was at half time just after the downpour, wasn't it?
Maybe. Was it full up there during the game?
Looks a fair bit emptier than the bottom tier anyway.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
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Missing Kamara. I feel we're scraping through to the end of the season, with the players we have available. April will be a huge month with 7 matches.
Totally trust Emre to make the most of the summer window. UTV.
I thought we would really miss Kamara but I disagree we have coped really well. It just goes to show that with a proper Manager Dougie and McGinn can play well together.
Atrocious VAR decision.
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Good performance. Never unduly worried. Once it got to 70 minutes and Bournemouth had to push up a little more, we started to pick them apart a bit more. It felt like a lot of nous in the game plan, as you expect from Emery. This kind of game has historically been a banana skin, so to end with a fairly routine win, was pleasing.
Great to see Ramsey back to his dynamic, driving best. It's great when Douglas is up for it too, but I wish he hit these levels a bit more often. Moreno lasted the game pretty well too. McGinn, Cash and Mings also great.
Bailey is an enigma (mostly frustating one). Beundia wasn't great (though did grow into it as the game opened) but I guess the former got an assist and Emi2 got a goal.
We now have to shake off another curse, and that's going into an international break on a decent run. I really hope we're on it in the next game. Though it probably works better for us that it's a game where we're underdogs.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was sold out.
Me & Amfy couldn't go today so we put our seats onto resale. They won't sell them until the whole ground is sold out, it's ridiculous.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was all sold out.
That picture was at half time just after the downpour, wasn't it?
Maybe. Was it full up there during the game?
Looks a fair bit emptier than the bottom tier anyway.
I wasn't there today but on the stream I was watching they showed a similar pic at HT, it was absolutely pissing down when the ht whistle went.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was sold out.
If it was the seats above the away fans, you had to phone up for those I believe.
I did see loads of empty seats in the lower Trinity and some in the lower north though
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Missing Kamara. I feel we're scraping through to the end of the season, with the players we have available. April will be a huge month with 7 matches.
Totally trust Emre to make the most of the summer window. UTV.
We will have 3 players back from injury by then
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A comfortable win and thank christ because VAR robbed us blind today.
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I still remember how I felt after the first game of the season. I went into it full of optimism only for us to get spanked by Bournemouth. Feels good to have put that right.
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Dougie is starting to turn into the ‘proper’ player we all hoped he might.
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Dougie is starting to turn into the ‘proper’ player we all hoped he might.
Cracking player, took the piss at times today
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Thread title worthy of TBAR.
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Dougie is starting to turn into the ‘proper’ player we all hoped he might.
He really is. Another whose value increases every week.
Emery has improved many of them from the Shambolic Gerrard amd Army of Shite Coaches
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'On if the fans are getting behind the team: "I think there have been a lot of comments on social media. Every time I've played for Villa the atmosphere has been very good. Everyone's got to adapt to a new playing style. Today they did that and got behind us."'
What's that about? Bit of a snide question, isn't it?
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Good performance. Never unduly worried. Once it got to 70 minutes and Bournemouth had to push up a little more, we started to pick them apart a bit more. It felt like a lot of nous in the game plan, as you expect from Emery. This kind of game has historically been a banana skin, so to end with a fairly routine win, was pleasing.
Great to see Ramsey back to his dynamic, driving best. It's great when Douglas is up for it too, but I wish he hit these levels a bit more often. Moreno lasted the game pretty well too. McGinn, Cash and Mings also great.
Bailey is an enigma (mostly frustating one). Beundia wasn't great (though did grow into it as the game opened) but I guess the former got an assist and Emi2 got a goal.
We now have to shake off another curse, and that's going into an international break on a decent run. I really hope we're on it in the next game. Though it probably works better for us that it's a game where we're underdogs.
Hopefully Kamara will be back after the break, so not all bad.
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He managed to get both hands on it.
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Cash MOTM for me today, a fraction ahead of McGinn and Luiz. Mings did very well too.
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Good performance. Never unduly worried. Once it got to 70 minutes and Bournemouth had to push up a little more, we started to pick them apart a bit more. It felt like a lot of nous in the game plan, as you expect from Emery. This kind of game has historically been a banana skin, so to end with a fairly routine win, was pleasing.
Great to see Ramsey back to his dynamic, driving best. It's great when Douglas is up for it too, but I wish he hit these levels a bit more often. Moreno lasted the game pretty well too. McGinn, Cash and Mings also great.
Bailey is an enigma (mostly frustating one). Beundia wasn't great (though did grow into it as the game opened) but I guess the former got an assist and Emi2 got a goal.
We now have to shake off another curse, and that's going into an international break on a decent run. I really hope we're on it in the next game. Though it probably works better for us that it's a game where we're underdogs.
Underdogs!!
We are above them in the league.
Fantastic win, well done all and sundry. :)
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Cash MOTM for me today, a fraction ahead of McGinn and Luiz. Mings did very well too.
I thought Ramsey was excellent, the only poor performances were Bailey Buendia and Traore was not much better.
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Very good win against a team, who nearly took a point off Arsenal and beat Liverpool. It may be only for a couple of hours, but it's great to say we're in the top half.
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Good result and keeps momentum going.
Whoever commentates for us on WM is stealing a living though. He thought Luis was being booed when he took a corner and unai emery’s ‘barmy army’. Couldn’t describe what was going in front of him and spewing a constant word salad.
I think it’s a tough job but Jesus wept.
Anyway - up the villa!
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was sold out.
Me & Amfy couldn't go today so we put our seats onto resale. They won't sell them until the whole ground is sold out, it's ridiculous.
There were literally 2 left in B7 (family stand) & no one else’s could go for resale until they sold. Pretty sure there’s a few that would have liked a pair of seats in L7 if they’d been made available. It doesn’t exactly encourage not selling on privately when they make it this difficult to return them.
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We've won 3-0. Is it just us that has to mention who we thought didn't play well enough?
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Three points. Sound!
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We've won 3-0. Is it just us that has to mention who we thought didn't play well enough?
No, that’s just part of football discussion. We played a side bottom three and unlike many Villa sides of the past we dispatched them professionally. But there is room for improvement. Everyone is happy with the result but certain players will need to be improved upon for us to challenge at the top. For me upgrade at CB and on the wing for sure.
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Cash MOTM for me today, a fraction ahead of McGinn and Luiz. Mings did very well too.
Fair play to Cash, he was shocking last week but very good today.
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Also, that ref has now reffed us and we have won. So the stattos can add that to their Excel sheets.
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The corner shenanigans was fun at the end . comfortable win in the end . Ramsey is immense when running with the ball in space
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Cash MOTM for me today, a fraction ahead of McGinn and Luiz. Mings did very well too.
Fair play to Cash, he was shocking last week but very good today.
He was very good against Palace too, so he's getting there knowing what's required under Emery. He should still be first choice right back next season in my opinion.
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We've won 3-0. Is it just us that has to mention who we thought didn't play well enough?
No, that’s just part of football discussion. We played a side bottom three and unlike many Villa sides of the past we dispatched them professionally. But there is room for improvement. Everyone is happy with the result but certain players will need to be improved upon for us to challenge at the top. For me upgrade at CB and on the wing for sure.
I'm sure Emery will be telling those who could do better that they need to do better.
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We've won 3-0. Is it just us that has to mention who we thought didn't play well enough?
No, that’s just part of football discussion. We played a side bottom three and unlike many Villa sides of the past we dispatched them professionally. But there is room for improvement. Everyone is happy with the result but certain players will need to be improved upon for us to challenge at the top. For me upgrade at CB and on the wing for sure.
Please don't patronise me. People saying Buendia wasn't up to par today - well, apart from the goal.
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Cheer up Jane, we won.
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Cash MOTM for me today, a fraction ahead of McGinn and Luiz. Mings did very well too.
Fair play to Cash, he was shocking last week but very good today.
He was very good against Palace too, so he's getting there knowing what's required under Emery. He should still be first choice right back next season in my opinion.
We were told by several people that he was not capable of learning the Emery way of playing, didn't speak Spanish and so on. He seems to be proving them wrong.
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I'm fine!! I love them all :)
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Three points, three goals, clean sheet, four unbeaten. Top 10. What's not to like? Excellent.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was sold out.
There’s only one Flinty Flintsone!
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12837264/aston-villa-3-0-bournemouth-premier-league-highlights
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I reckon we should be safe now.
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I would say our most complete performance at home since Emery's first game. I really think had Gerrard still been sitting in our dugout, we'd be stone last in the table
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Good stuff.
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We've won 3-0. Is it just us that has to mention who we thought didn't play well enough?
No, that’s just part of football discussion. We played a side bottom three and unlike many Villa sides of the past we dispatched them professionally. But there is room for improvement. Everyone is happy with the result but certain players will need to be improved upon for us to challenge at the top. For me upgrade at CB and on the wing for sure.
Please don't patronise me. People saying Buendia wasn't up to par today - well, apart from the goal.
Crikey Jane. I wasn’t patronizing my you at all. You asked if it was only us that found some things that needed improving in victory. If you want to focus just on the win then awesome.
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Is that 26 points from 14 games now?
Over a season that would be 70 points.
We're going places.
That we are! What a difference Emery is making. Love it, love Dougie too, he’s just really ace at the moment.
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Comfortable performance. We really should have hammered them though with all the chances we created. Watkins and Mings missed sitters and I'm still trying to figure out what Traore was attempting...
We looked very dangerous when attacking and the tippy-tappy, overplaying crap was significantly reduced today. I'm still not convinced by our playing out from the back tactics but I understand it takes time and we're also not playing with our main central defensive pairing.
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I wasn’t at the game today, and was listening on the radio. Tony Daly said it would have been a harsh penalty. Upon seeing that, Tone you were way off!! How is that not given??
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I would say our most complete performance at home since Emery's first game. I really think had Gerrard still been sitting in our dugout, we'd be stone last in the table
Yeah possibly, I do believe, we would almost certainly be in the relegation scrap, thanks to Unai, we've got a relaxing end of the season to look forward to, he's done a great job.
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Also great to get that Bournemouth hoodoo off our backs. They’re destined for the championship.
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We are not 11th…
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As easy a win as we’ve had for a long time because we have the best coach we’ve had for a long time.
Some very good performances from quite a few including Mings who I thought gave a complete performance at the back. Ramsey getting back to normal and I love his front foot attitude to the game. Bailey is totally shot of any confidence at all but he didn’t hide and neither did Buendia who didn’t have his best game but stuck at it and finished the game well.
It was a game we should’ve won but I don’t think we ever had to get into top gear to win it and that’s the sign of a decent team.
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We are not 11th…
We are at the moment with Chelsea Everton at 0-0
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was sold out.
If it was the seats above the away fans, you had to phone up for those I believe.
I did see loads of empty seats in the lower Trinity and some in the lower north though
I phoned yesterday morning and the recorded message said they were closed.
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Good performance, I actually thought Bailey did much better than in recent games.
Was disappointed with Konsa's marking and Buendia getting caught in possession numerous times. Hard to pick a MOTM from the rest of the team as they were all brilliant.
Shocking from VAR - the first was a defo penalty, the others not so much.
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Cash MOTM for me today, a fraction ahead of McGinn and Luiz. Mings did very well too.
Fair play to Cash, he was shocking last week but very good today.
He was very good against Palace too, so he's getting there knowing what's required under Emery. He should still be first choice right back next season in my opinion.
Absolutely. If Atletico want to offer us £45m then I might change my mind but otherwise it’d be nuts to buy a replacement when he’s often 7/10 and yet to benefit from an Emery ‘pre-season (aka the World Cup break).
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I don't get why people are confused about what Traore was doing, did you not see his goal against the baggies? Slotting a pass into the bottom corner is something we've seen him do.
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Great result and clean sheet I'm pleased with that.
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I don't get why people are confused about what Traore was doing, did you not see his goal against the baggies? Slotting a pass into the bottom corner is something we've seen him do.
Yes!! I thought the same thing at the time. He hits it early with very little backlift. Takes the keeper by surprise so he can almost pass it into the net.
Not too many players try that. I like it.
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MOTM for Bournemouth?
VAR.
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MOTM for Bournemouth?
VAR.
Bournemouth were dreadful, they were fortunate it was only 3.
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McGinn was fantastic today, looks leaner, sharper and better under the new regime.
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I don't get why people are confused about what Traore was doing, did you not see his goal against the baggies? Slotting a pass into the bottom corner is something we've seen him do.
That's exactly what I thought at the time - but I haven't seen a replay.
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From Sky.....
"But Bournemouth reacted well and had a plethora of chances."
Did they?
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If it wasn't for Neto, Olly would have had two, really good saves.
At least one penalty should have been given.
Sublime passing at times, and playing across the back line improves every game.
On another day it could have been 6 - also on another day, after not getting the breaks, we may well have lost, very happy to see the heads stay screwed on and the coached game plan doesn't go out the window - Unai really has this team playing much better than I expected.
Looking forward to what quality additions Unai brings in, to improve us further.
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Traore just isn’t up to speed yet. He didn’t look as confident as the time when he was just in full flow for that first season. But he will try the most incredible stuff which when it comes off is amazing. And when it doesn’t it can look awful. Bailey is simply running out of time.
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If it wasn't for Neto, Olly would have had two, really good saves.
At least one penalty should have been given.
Sublime passing at times, and playing across the back line improves every game.
On another day it could have been 6 - also on another day, after not getting the breaks, we may well have lost, very happy to see the heads stay screwed on and the coached game plan doesn't go out the window - Unai really has this team playing much better than I expected.
Looking forward to what quality additions Unai brings in, to improve us further.
Can add the Mings chance to the list where we could've easily got another. 6-7 wouldn't have flattered us today.
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I wasn’t at the game today, and was listening on the radio. Tony Daly said it would have been a harsh penalty. Upon seeing that, Tone you were way off!! How is that not given??
I just wonder if it deflects off the number 9 before hitting the guys hands.......
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If it wasn't for Neto, Olly would have had two, really good saves.
At least one penalty should have been given.
Sublime passing at times, and playing across the back line improves every game.
On another day it could have been 6 - also on another day, after not getting the breaks, we may well have lost, very happy to see the heads stay screwed on and the coached game plan doesn't go out the window - Unai really has this team playing much better than I expected.
Looking forward to what quality additions Unai brings in, to improve us further.
Can add the Mings chance to the list where we could've easily got another. 6-7 wouldn't have flattered us today.
How did I forget that one!
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Superb all round display. Mings, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Cash and Moreno particularly outstanding. Emi Buendia needs to protect the ball better, too easily pushed off the ball at times.
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What Emery is doing with what was (Moreno apart) the ame squad of player is light years from how we started the season.
Calmer every game on the ball and some of the passages of play front to back at totally joyous to watch.
Not long ago I suggested Mings, McGinn and Watkins were spent but the transformation back to form is incredible.
I can understand Toney getting in above Watkins on play and goals (although why try out a player who is expected to be getting a pretty hefty ban) but to pick the likes of Dier and Mcguire over the current form of Mings is worthy of the sack.
We had enough chances to have wiped out the negative GD today and at times our play was a joy to watch.
Let's hope jug ears and the other pundits stealing a living gives our team and especially our manager the credit they both deserve.
3 clean sheets out of last 4 games, assured on the ball and his performance today was worthy of MOTM.
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I thought we did a good professional job today, more evidence of quality management coming through. If I’m honest ‘superb’ might be pushing it a bit but it was easily good enough. Surprised how poor Bournemouth were really, I know they’re near the bottom but they have won a few lately, I thought they’d push us more. They did have a few chances second half but a combination of good defending and their own blunt strikers meant that they weren’t really a danger.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
Buendia and Watkins didn't turn up?.I'm not sure that you did. Watkins was excellent and Buendia was involved in most of the creative moves.
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Bailey made the first with a killer ball across the six yard box for Luiz.
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At Warwick services and lots of poor Cherries fans very unhappy on their way home. Don't seem to be giving Villa much credit. I really think they thought 3 points were in the bag today.
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I thought Moreno was very good and would be my MOTM, nice to see others going for McGinn or Dougie as it means we had a few standouts.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
Buendia and Watkins didn't turn up?.I'm not sure that you did. Watkins was excellent and Buendia was involved in most of the creative moves.
Buendia couldn't stop giving the ball away, I'm a big fan of his but nothing would go right for him today other than the goal and the brilliant ball he threaded through for Watkins.
Watkins played one good ball all game, midway in the opposition half. Lovely touch. First half he twice cut in from the left and like a child in the playground tried to shoot when he had next to no chance of scoring. It's so frustrating to watch and players around him must wonder if his vision is impaired. The same when he made a chance for himself after fluffing his lines first time round.
If you are right and 'Watkins was excellent and Buendia was involved in most of the creative moves' I'd be very concerned but you're not, so I'm not stressed at all. They'll both have better days.
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Very pleasing that. Great to have a performance and result where we do what you expect us to do. Controlled throughout and created plenty of opportunities.
Mings was excellent, I think McGinn has improved massively from the drop off he suffered post FA Cup at Man United under Gerrars, while Dougie is looking class.
I'm not sure the system is getting the most out of Ramsey and Bailey continues to be largely ineffectual. Emi, goal aside, was very wasteful in possession. Emery is very demanding so I suspect we'll either see improvement in the next 11 games or see them replaced.
I like the style and identity that we're developing. The defence really draw the opposition on. Billings started to join the press and we found space behind. The midfield move it incredibly quickly into channels and for Watkins, hitting that vacated space. We're only going to get better at it too.
Not the finished article, but I've not been this optimistic since O'Neill was in charge.
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Ha ha yeah, we win as a team and lose as a ... cliché, but not far from the truth.
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I reckon we should be safe now.
We are Definitely Safe - have the same number of points as under Big Eck
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Very good win against a club we’ve struggled to get results from since we came back up. Was never really comfortable until the second goal.
• Thought Cash was MOTM. Made countless blocks and interceptions and was very good bringing the ball forward.
• Dougie again very good and must be in with a shout for player of the season for us such has been his consistency this season.
• Ramsey was always a threat and carried the ball forward very well.
• Playing out from the back is coming along very well, McGinn I pass aside. And when we break the opposition’s press we are a joy in transition with our moves.
• Need more consistency from Bunedia and Bailey.
• VAR (sigh). An absolute farce (or VARace) today. Three handballs by Bournemouth players in the box, two by the same guy, all in varying levels of potential penalties, all of which we’ve seen given in other games this season. But the first one is as blatant as you’re going to see; shot on target, player his hand away from his body and blocking the shot. How that is not given by VAR god only knows. The result will allow the officials to get away with it but the club should be asking for an explanation.
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Thank you. How on earth was that not a penalty?
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Thank you. How on earth was that not a penalty?
Good save in fairness
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If we made some noise they will have to remove whoever was VAR to filling the water bottles next week but I guess we won’t.
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I said in the pre match thread 2-0 Villa and a stroll in the park for our players. Well we got 3 and could have been more. Strange game as at no point did I feel we were under any pressure and didn’t feel nervous for a change. Totally dominated from beginning to end.
Lots of good performances but Cash edges it for me. Bailey poor again apart from the assist and Buendia gave the ball away far too often but still a good result.
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Piece of piss
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We are not 11th…
We are 11th
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We looked very comfortable, even if we didn’t flow too well between the first ten and the last ten. I thought they looked very well drilled and disciplined in formation and we had to be very patient to lure them out of shape.
Very difficult to pick a MOM with Emi, Ming, Konsa, Moreno, Cash, Dougie and McGinn all having claims but I thought Ramsey shaded them all, we look a different team with him carrying the ball through the midfield, today he looked like the player we all thought he’d become.
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
It’s great isn’t it?
I’ve been taking mine since he was 5 and now he’s 28 and we still love it.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was all sold out.
That picture was at half time just after the downpour, wasn't it?
Maybe. Was it full up there during the game?
Looks a fair bit emptier than the bottom tier anyway.
No that section was not full but remember Percy Bmouth returned the upper tier allocation and we probably decided to put that section on sale to home fans a bit too late. So a gap between you being told we were sold out to more seats becoming available maybe?
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
That’s great mate. Glad the team put up a bit of a show for the young man.
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Bailey made the first with a killer ball across the six yard box for Luiz.
Yeah I mean Bailey get an assist, as did Ollie, and Buendia scored. It’s a bit harsh to say they didn’t turn up.
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Not to come over all Flinty, but I’m pissed off about all those empty seats having been online last night and told it was all sold out.
That picture was at half time just after the downpour, wasn't it?
Maybe. Was it full up there during the game?
Looks a fair bit emptier than the bottom tier anyway.
No that section was not full but remember Percy Bmouth returned the upper tier allocation and we probably decided to put that section on sale to home fans a bit too late. So a gap between you being told we were sold out to more seats becoming available maybe?
No, I didn’t try to get one until a day after they announced they’d been returned. Somebody above said they were only available by phone, which explains why they were not showing on the website. But annoying that when I tried on the phone at around 10am yesterday morning the recorded message was a curt ‘the ticket office is closed’.
Anyway, I’m getting memberships for me and the babby so we get that little head start in future. I can’t see us getting to the top of the waiting list until the new stand is open.
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
It’s great isn’t it?
I’ve been taking mine since he was 5 and now he’s 28 and we still love it.
That’s one of the nicest things I’ve read on this site.
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
That’s great mate. Glad the team put up a bit of a show for the young man.
Lovely to hear, delightful.
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
It’s great isn’t it?
I’ve been taking mine since he was 5 and now he’s 28 and we still love it.
That’s one of the nicest things I’ve read on this site.
Just thinking that myself.
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Bailey made the first with a killer ball across the six yard box for Luiz.
Yeah I mean Bailey get an assist, as did Ollie, and Buendia scored. It’s a bit harsh to say they didn’t turn up.
I mostly agree, I'd honestly not give anyone less than a 7 for today. I do find Buendia frustrating though, he gets bounced off the ball too many times, often because he looks up and wants too much time to pick a pass.
What we did really well today was dragging their midfield out of shape, we baited them superbly by moving the ball up field and then making them think they were pressing us back into our own half before we went through them into the space between midfield and defence. That sort of play to manipulate teams is clearly what Emery has been focusing on in attack and we're getting better and better at doing it. It will really help us handle the 'park the bus' teams at villa park.
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We've won 3-0. Is it just us that has to mention who we thought didn't play well enough?
No, that’s just part of football discussion. We played a side bottom three and unlike many Villa sides of the past we dispatched them professionally. But there is room for improvement. Everyone is happy with the result but certain players will need to be improved upon for us to challenge at the top. For me upgrade at CB and on the wing for sure.
Please don't patronise me. People saying Buendia wasn't up to par today - well, apart from the goal.
And the three great chances he created. 2 of them gilt edged
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I thought Buendia showed all the reasons we paid £40m for him, and all the reasons no one else wanted to. Very good in patches when the game is stretched, some really poor decisions and technique when the game was tight. He just makes the wrong choices far too often, lets hope he learns more from Phil who doesn’t.
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Good display for me, think we have to credit the players for adapting quickly to Emery was of playing…think as a crowd we still have a way to go as it is frustrating when the ball just sticks at the back.
My motm was McGinn, obv had the iffy moment when he was given the hospital ball out from the back. Thought he set the pace of play, Luiz very good too.
Martinez - stunning, stunnng save from free kick
Cash - lively, little frustrating that he gets so little ball from Konsa.
Moreno - good, wonder if he’ll be used wide left with a Digne behind?
Konsa - for me the weak link across back, doesn’t use the ball at all well, was caught out by Solanke running time and again, made a few great tackles though.
Mings - competent, would have loved him to have got that goal.
McGinn - MotM for me - always at his best using that ass
Luiz - close second to McGinn
Ramsey - not quite back to his best but good to see him running with the ball
Buendia - does some nice stuff but is knocking off ball, dispossessed way way way too easily too often
Bailey - lovely assist when he got his head up but is yards behind in the head, little to no anticipation and not enough of that end product from goal one.
Watkins - worked hard and was a threat, two reasons the hypocrite won’t pick him for England, how dare he be on form.
Nice to see the applause for Brooks & can see Solanke being a very useful signing for someone if they go down, looks to finally be adapting to the PL and goals should follow.
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
Fantastic 👍
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And I took my lad for the first time, he loved it and I loved him loving it.
Fantastic 👍
Is there anything better
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No.
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Happy. Ace. VAR is pointless.
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Our set pieces were very good today, Rick Wakeman has had a very good week planning them with the team.
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It really was very comfortable but with some very good individual performances thrown in. Mcginn and Luiz were superb and Moreno is getting better.. I thought Billing for them was decent. One to look at?
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Thought Solanke was the pick of theirs, some very smart runs in behind us, fucked up the big chance though when Tyrone got back to block the shot he should have took much earlier.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
I haven’t read all the thread so maybe someone else has already picked you up, but Watkins played really well.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
Is that the same Bailey who assisted the first goal, Watkins who assisted the second goal, and Buendia who scored the third goal? 🤡
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It really was very comfortable but with some very good individual performances thrown in. Mcginn and Luiz were superb and Moreno is getting better.. I thought Billing for them was decent. One to look at?
Billing is a decent player but he wouldn't get anywhere near our midfield for me.
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It really was very comfortable but with some very good individual performances thrown in. Mcginn and Luiz were superb and Moreno is getting better.. I thought Billing for them was decent. One to look at?
Billing is a decent player but he wouldn't get anywhere near our midfield for me.
Agreed. He’s decent, but not an upgrade on any of the starting players and at bench a squad player. We need to be buying players that ultimately relegate our current starting players to the bench.
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They sorted out that Konsa was a weak link, only a brilliant challenge be Mings prevented a certain goal, for me that was our only weakness at the back. Watkins while not at his best still put the effort in, Luiz and McGinn both played well, we still have problems out wide, we don't have a winger that can beat his marker. It's notable that we are finally playing as a team, and Luiz in particular seems to be enjoying himself. This manager could become a Villa legend.
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We played well and deserved to win, but they looked like a decent team for parts of the game. It may be a cliché, but there are no easy games in this division these days.
Super John MoM.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
Is that the same Bailey who assisted the first goal, Watkins who assisted the second goal, and Buendia who scored the third goal? 🤡
Let's just say, some are more open than others and want improvement . One contribution each don't make a summer. Still, if it makes you all happy, we were all fantastic. Bailey, what a player! Watkins, just give him half a chance! Buendia, he may be 5 foot seven but he's made of granite, players just bounce off him. Champions League here we come!
Who needs a transfer window, we're perfect. Nothing less than €100m each if somebody wants to buy them. Imagine their value after good game.
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Was a comfortable win.
Without creating a huge amount you could see in first half we had that extra half a yard of speed and thought in most areas of the pitch and we should've scored more but wasted the final ball too often overplaying.
Then when game was in a lull we sprung into life last 15 minutes and could've won by more than 3.
Very nice touch when Brooks came on and got a big round of applause from all of the ground. Didn't realise today was his first time back on pitch for Bournemouth since his cancer treatment. What was the round of applause midway through first half for?
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
Is that the same Bailey who assisted the first goal, Watkins who assisted the second goal, and Buendia who scored the third goal? 🤡
Let's just say, some are more open than others and want improvement . One contribution each don't make a summer. Still, if it makes you all happy, we were all fantastic. Bailey, what a player! Watkins, just give him half a chance! Buendia, he may be 5 foot seven but he's made of granite, players just bounce off him. Champions League here we come!
Who needs a transfer window, we're perfect. Nothing less than €100m each if somebody wants to buy them. Imagine their value after good game.
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A hand bag….?
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It was pleasing on the bus home to realise that any of Cash Mings Luiz Ramsey and McGinn could have been a decent shout for motm.
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It was pleasing on the bus home to realise that any of Cash Mings Luiz Ramsey and McGinn could have been a decent shout for motm.
add to that Martinez Moreno and you can see where we need to upgrade to kick on.
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Was a comfortable win.
Without creating a huge amount you could see in first half we had that extra half a yard of speed and thought in most areas of the pitch and we should've scored more but wasted the final ball too often overplaying.
Then when game was in a lull we sprung into life last 15 minutes and could've won by more than 3.
Very nice touch when Brooks came on and got a big round of applause from all of the ground. Didn't realise today was his first time back on pitch for Bournemouth since his cancer treatment. What was the round of applause midway through first half for?
. A guy in the Lower Holte held up a banner reading ‘Murdered’ about Dalian Atkinson.
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Three valuable points. Decent performance considering Buendia, Bailey and Watkins didn't turn up. Mings, McGinn, Ramsey, Dougie, Emi, Cash, Moreno and even Konsa all played their part. Despite not being at our best we were rarely troubled thanks to the defence and midfield.
The less said about the penalties the better. I no longer have a clue what does and doesn't now qualify as a penalty, it's like the rules change every week.
Is that the same Bailey who assisted the first goal, Watkins who assisted the second goal, and Buendia who scored the third goal? 🤡
Let's just say, some are more open than others and want improvement . One contribution each don't make a summer. Still, if it makes you all happy, we were all fantastic. Bailey, what a player! Watkins, just give him half a chance! Buendia, he may be 5 foot seven but he's made of granite, players just bounce off him. Champions League here we come!
Who needs a transfer window, we're perfect. Nothing less than €100m each if somebody wants to buy them. Imagine their value after good game.
People are allowed to disagree with your analysis of who played well and who didn’t.
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3-0 flattered us according to O'Neil. Yeah OK mate..
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3-0 flattered us according to O'Neil. Yeah OK mate..
Saw that. "It wasn't a 3-0 type of game." Well, it was, and it could have been 6. 6-1 if I'm being generous.
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Just watching the highlights from Villa TV. Bailey actually went past their number 5 to cross the ball for Luiz to score. I thought I'd imagined it.
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Just watching the highlights from Villa TV. Bailey actually went past their number 5 to cross the ball for Luiz to score. I thought I'd imagined it.
He did very well there to be fair. Didn't do much else after that though.
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What was the applause for, around 20 minutes into the game?
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What was the applause for, around 20 minutes into the game?
They served a pint in under two minutes at the back of the Trinity.
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It really was very comfortable but with some very good individual performances thrown in. Mcginn and Luiz were superb and Moreno is getting better.. I thought Billing for them was decent. One to look at?
Billing is a decent player but he wouldn't get anywhere near our midfield for me.
Agreed. He’s decent, but not an upgrade on any of the starting players and at bench a squad player. We need to be buying players that ultimately relegate our current starting players to the bench.
Yeah, maybe he would struggle to get into our midfield and we probably could do better. Still, he's a good age (I thought he was older than 26) and his goalscoring record is not too shabby for a midfielder.
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IMHO, Watkins put in a fine performance but Bailey is currently not cutting the mustard.
Little Emi is a gem. A pain in the arse for any opposition. After years of sideways/backward/risk free passing we now have a player who is:
1) Always hungry for the ball.
2) Risk taker
3) Forward thinking
4) Terrier like
5) Box to box
6) Constantly in referees ear
7) Good goal ratio
8) Team player
9) Loves the shirt
Yes, on occasion he can be knocked off the ball too easy and on occasion there is a stray pass. A risk and reward player. These are areas I am sure our coaching team are working on. But the pros well outweigh the cons.
Every team needs a small Emi and I am glad we have one.
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Just watched MOTD no mention of any potential penalties for Villa. "Nothing to see here move on" looks like the win means that retrospectively they can bury it
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Billing's a bit like Onana at Everton. A decent player for a crap team who'd probably do OK with us. I hope we're after a higher level than them though.
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IMHO, Watkins put in a fine performance but Bailey is currently not cutting the mustard.
Little Emi is a gem. A pain in the arse for any opposition. After years of sideways/backward/risk free passing we now have a player who is:
1) Always hungry for the ball.
2) Risk taker
3) Forward thinking
4) Terrier like
5) Box to box
6) Constantly in referees ear
7) Good goal ratio
8) Team player
9) Loves the shirt
Yes, on occasion he can be knocked off the ball too easy and on occasion there is a stray pass. A risk and reward player. These are areas I am sure our coaching team are working on. But the pros well outweigh the cons.
Every team needs a small Emi and I am glad we have one.
I think you make some good points about little Emi
Players that are progressive and like to move the ball forward taking a few risks will always give the ball away more times than cautious steady players
That’s why I never take much notice of midfield player stats, you can see for yourself a dangerous player everything they do doesn’t come off but when it does it produces chances and goals
Having said all that, it wasn’t one of his better games yesterday but he was still effective at times
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
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He's got some great abilities, but I'm not sure the good does outweight the bad. If he constantly loses the ball like he did yesterday, against a better team like Chelsea, we'll see a lot more chances created against us.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
I hope no one responds to this trolling shite
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
We're you the one that started 'Empty Seats M' Lord'?
There were no trains yesterday, which meant a lot couldn't get there.
I'm. Not surprised you're not enjoying the football, there's nothing for you to moan about.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
It's called modern day football not dinosaur football. Do you want a thrilling game we lose and are 3 points off relegation or a less blood and guts performance that leaves us 3 points off europe ?
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Yet he still seems to find away. One of those people who I imagine sucks the life out of any room they’re in.
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Why are genuine observations trolling? Because you don't like my opinions (normally the truth or do come true) the fact is we didn't sell out a 3pm Saturday KO so would we really sell out 50k plus when tickets are easy to come by and there's no real panic to buy in advance. The casual supporter isn't going to wake up and feel motivated to go to villa park against Bournemouth
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Yet he still seems to find away. One of those people who I imagine sucks the life out of any room they’re in.
He’ll be enjoying any response he gets, will make his sad day.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
I agree. Funeralling Bournemouth 3-0 at home with a notable world-class save from Emi, penalty denials and only 41, 021 attendance is a disgrace.
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I wanted to take the lad but couldn’t get a ticket
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You should have called the club up as they advised on the website , there were hundreds available in the Doug Ellis upper
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I said I'm happy to play that way if we get results. Everyone was bored in the first half it was awful and the atmosphere was the same
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IMHO, Watkins put in a fine performance but Bailey is currently not cutting the mustard.
Little Emi is a gem. A pain in the arse for any opposition. After years of sideways/backward/risk free passing we now have a player who is:
1) Always hungry for the ball.
2) Risk taker
3) Forward thinking
4) Terrier like
5) Box to box
6) Constantly in referees ear
7) Good goal ratio
8) Team player
9) Loves the shirt
Yes, on occasion he can be knocked off the ball too easy and on occasion there is a stray pass. A risk and reward player. These are areas I am sure our coaching team are working on. But the pros well outweigh the cons.
Every team needs a small Emi and I am glad we have one.
I think you make some good points about little Emi
Players that are progressive and like to move the ball forward taking a few risks will always give the ball away more times than cautious steady players
That’s why I never take much notice of midfield player stats, you can see for yourself a dangerous player everything they do doesn’t come off but when it does it produces chances and goals
Having said all that, it wasn’t one of his better games yesterday but he was still effective at times
I agree with all this, i like him, frustrating when he loose the ball but - yes, thats because he is trying to get hold of it in very tight situations to make things happen like he did when playing through Watkins in first half (29 min ish in) and Watkins should have scored and given the goal to Emi 2.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
I hope no one responds to this trolling shite
You did.
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The emphasis shouldn’t be on Wilma s pointless moaning but on the clubs inability to sell returned tickets from Bournemouth. It seems several posters have tried to get additional tickets last minute and the TO for whatever reason had the sold out signs up despite that not being the case. If there’s a problem it seems to me it’s the TO and not the match going fan. There also seems to be an issue with selling returned STs as I think amfy was saying a day or so ago. It’s just a feeling and maybe unfounded but I don’t think the TO is as good as it was in the Lerner era.
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The emphasis shouldn’t be on Wilma s pointless moaning but on the clubs inability to sell returned tickets from Bournemouth. It seems several posters have tried to get additional tickets last minute and the TO for whatever reason had the sold out signs up despite that not being the case. If there’s a problem it seems to me it’s the TO and not the match going fan. There also seems to be an issue with selling returned STs as I think amfy was saying a day or so ago. It’s just a feeling and maybe unfounded but I don’t think the TO is as good as it was in the Lerner era.
It did feel like the club made it more difficult to buy in these blocks and kept it pretty quiet too. Not being able to buy online a big factor.
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The emphasis shouldn’t be on Wilma s pointless moaning but on the clubs inability to sell returned tickets from Bournemouth. It seems several posters have tried to get additional tickets last minute and the TO for whatever reason had the sold out signs up despite that not being the case. If there’s a problem it seems to me it’s the TO and not the match going fan. There also seems to be an issue with selling returned STs as I think amfy was saying a day or so ago. It’s just a feeling and maybe unfounded but I don’t think the TO is as good as it was in the Lerner era.
They don’t sell returned STs until all the other tickets have been sold. It appears that those that are available you have to phone in for and they still may not be open to everyone.
It seems a bit of a mess.
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I don’t get some negative posts about Buendia. Yesterday he tore them to shreds in the first 20 mins when we should have scored 2/3 more than we did. Gary O’Neill realised that and put a man on him for the rest of the half and Emi found it difficult to cope with that however got the better of his marker several times in the second half. It’s all part of his development from good to great and hopefully he will become great by dealing with close attention.
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The emphasis shouldn’t be on Wilma s pointless moaning but on the clubs inability to sell returned tickets from Bournemouth. It seems several posters have tried to get additional tickets last minute and the TO for whatever reason had the sold out signs up despite that not being the case. If there’s a problem it seems to me it’s the TO and not the match going fan. There also seems to be an issue with selling returned STs as I think amfy was saying a day or so ago. It’s just a feeling and maybe unfounded but I don’t think the TO is as good as it was in the Lerner era.
It did feel like the club made it more difficult to buy in these blocks and kept it pretty quiet too. Not being able to buy online a big factor.
It could be that software that prohibits home fans from buying in away block is not easily modifiable to allow online purchase and it would take more than a few days to make that change even if the provider has the capacity to do so. So the obvious route is phone sales and fans generally do not do that these days?
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All we heard all week was "Oooh they nearly beat Arsenal" "They beat Liverpool you know" or "Villa might struggle against them" - I thought they were a poor side and we weren't flattered by the score but they were. Emery is on to something here, some really nice football at times and that last ten minutes was like the Alamo. Nice to see them running around like two-year olds in the last few minutes too. I think Bournemouth will go for sure.
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I was surprised at how poor Bournemouth were to be honest. That's taking nothing away from us though but other than that Billing free kick, it really was comfortable.
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I was surprised at how poor Bournemouth were to be honest. That's taking nothing away from us though but other than that Billing free kick, it really was comfortable.
I thought the Solanke effort when Konsa let him clean through probably would have ended up with a goal from a better player. The save from the free kick was just a goalie at the top of his game doing his job as we know he can.
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The VAR/Handball never even got a mention during MOTD analysis.
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All we heard all week was "Oooh they nearly beat Arsenal" "They beat Liverpool you know" or "Villa might struggle against them" - I thought they were a poor side and we weren't flattered by the score but they were. Emery is on to something here, some really nice football at times and that last ten minutes was like the Alamo. Nice to see them running around like two-year olds in the last few minutes too. I think Bournemouth will go for sure.
I'm a better football tipster than I am a horse racing one.
They're in the bottom three for a reason, and have won the grand total of 3 games in their last 17. They've drawn 3 as well, and lost the rest. We've got to get after teams like this from the start and hand out a lesson. Of course the result is all important, but I'd like to see a good, attacking performance for a change. 3-0.
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It seems to stand out when Buendia gets caught in possession, and he needs to get into the habit of moving either himself or the ball just that little bit quicker, so as to avoid getting caught. However, he does get himself into great positions to link the play, and frequently does so to very good effect. Yesterday, when he was caught in possession it was usually the result of a very good tackle, and it doesn't help the look of things when he then goes to some lengths to make out that he was fouled, when clearly he wasn't. I'd say though that he is currently not that far away from becoming a vital cog in what is fast becoming a fairly well oiled machine.
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The VAR/Handball never even got a mention during MOTD analysis.
Except from the commentator who said it "would've been harsh" or some such nonsense. It was an obvious penalty.
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The VAR/Handball never even got a mention during MOTD analysis.
Except from the commentator who said it "would've been harsh" or some such nonsense. It was an obvious penalty.
It would have been harsh based on common sense, but based on the new handball rules it was a stonewall penalty.
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I thought the highlights coverage of the game on MOTD was pretty poor, showing very little of the fluency behind so much of our play.
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And another thing - why on earth was there a VAR of our third goal, when there were clearly two Bournemouth players standing on the goal line when the ball was headed by Buendia (or hit him on the head, if one was being harsh).
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And another thing - why on earth was there a VAR of our third goal, when there were clearly two Bournemouth players standing on the goal line when the ball was headed by Buendia (or hit him on the head, if one was being harsh).
That pissed me off, there was so obviously nothing to check and it just that second of joy out of the moment.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
I hope no one responds to this trolling shite
You did.
Guilty as charged, i must do better
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MOTD commentary said it would have been harsh to award the penalty. It was handball for effs sake and that would be a pen at Arsenal or the Emptyhad all day long.
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The Bournemouth manager was right about it never being a 3-0 game. It should have been 5-0.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
I hope no one responds to this trolling shite
You did.
Guilty as charged, i must do better
Ha ha ha ha. ha
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Good display for me, think we have to credit the players for adapting quickly to Emery was of playing…think as a crowd we still have a way to go as it is frustrating when the ball just sticks at the back.
My motm was McGinn, obv had the iffy moment when he was given the hospital ball out from the back. Thought he set the pace of play, Luiz very good too.
Martinez - stunning, stunnng save from free kick
Cash - lively, little frustrating that he gets so little ball from Konsa.
Moreno - good, wonder if he’ll be used wide left with a Digne behind?
Konsa - for me the weak link across back, doesn’t use the ball at all well, was caught out by Solanke running time and again, made a few great tackles though.
Mings - competent, would have loved him to have got that goal.
McGinn - MotM for me - always at his best using that ass
Luiz - close second to McGinn
Ramsey - not quite back to his best but good to see him running with the ball
Buendia - does some nice stuff but is knocking off ball, dispossessed way way way too easily too often
Bailey - lovely assist when he got his head up but is yards behind in the head, little to no anticipation and not enough of that end product from goal one.
Watkins - worked hard and was a threat, two reasons the hypocrite won’t pick him for England, how dare he be on form.
Nice to see the applause for Brooks & can see Solanke being a very useful signing for someone if they go down, looks to finally be adapting to the PL and goals should follow.
I haven't seen someone with a Digne behind.
I don't think Solanke would be an upgrade for us.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
Are you listening to the national media too much about Emery? There was a dig at him again yesterday and I think it’s because they see us as a threat now. Having a ‘laugh’ at his accent and lack of English on radio, saying he’s got to lighten up and now saying his style is boring. The London bias radio are talking about him because they know he’s a top coach and he’s got the medals to prove it.
He’s a fantastic coach, his football may not be an ‘up and at em style’ but we do play some great stuff in the final third at times. There’s a plan and the way we play out from the back it the same as a lot of clubs. Kicking Aston Villa will become the thing to do as we progress so long may it continue.
As for the attendance, why worry? We don’t fill it with 10,000 half and halfers or fans that have their phones out taking bloody videos and photo’s like these other clubs you mention.
We’ve got owners with a vision and now a coach who’s proven and I just don’t get the issue here. For empty seats, take a trip to Small Heath.
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Please, just ignore him.
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The VAR/Handball never even got a mention during MOTD analysis.
That’s because in the context of score line it was irrelevant. It the match had ended 1-0 or 1-1 there would have been more discussion.
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Please, just ignore him.
I really shouldn’t have taken the bait should I?
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And yes no Solanke or Billings. We have made mistakes like that in the past. Generally never touch relegation stock unless they are standout super stars.
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I hope the club contacts PGMOL over that shit penalty decision. It might not have ended up that important in a 3-0 thrashing, but that’s not the point. They need to get it right, and if something like that stops us winning the league next year I won’t be happy.
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Thought Tyrone and Dougie were superb, but the performance that pleased me most was JJ's, great to see him getting back to his best. 8 of our last 11 matches are against teams in the top half, previously that would have concerned me, it's no longer the case, we are now quite capable of beating any of them.
It was great to see David Brooks, back on a football pitch, I wish him all the best for the rest of his career.
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The Bournemouth manager was right about it never being a 3-0 game. It should have been 5-0.
I think if we had scored another one or two earlier on we could have made it a bucket full
We saw what it was like in the last 10 minutes when we went 2 up it was constant pressure all over them because the game was won the pressure was off about conceding.
If that had happened earlier we might have got a heavy score line
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Here’s one for the reffing nerds. For the disallowed goal, assuming the whole of the ball hadn’t crossed the whole of the line, would it have been chalked off for Mings having left the field of play before touching it?
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Please, just ignore him.
I really shouldn’t have taken the bait should I?
or you are just expressing your positivity about our. club at the moment
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Ramsey, Mings, McGinn, Luiz, Cash, Moreno, not a fag paper between the lot of them, when was the last time more than half the team had standout games
Add to that Watkins and Big Emi also had good games i thought
Baileys Assist was top class to be fair, the rest of the day he was piss poor
I was really hoping that Traoré would sparkle and put a claim in for a starting place over Bailey, but he was just as shit probably worse
Can’t have everything, but our best 90 minutes of the season so far
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Please, just ignore him.
I really shouldn’t have taken the bait should I?
or you are just expressing your positivity about our. club at the moment
Yes I was, 100%. I do feel I’ve taken the bait though but I thank him for allowing me to display all that’s positive about our club.
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I would give Duran a start over on the left , see how he does .
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I wouldn’t. He’s a young striker, we shouldn’t start confusing his role.
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What's annoying about the penalty VAR decision is that every time a ball is blasted from point blank range at one of our players it seems to be given as a penalty.
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I said I'm happy to play that way if we get results. Everyone was bored in the first half it was awful and the atmosphere was the same
I wasn't. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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I have been critical of Ramsay in recent games, where I thought he was anonymous. He did far better yesterday and his goal was excellently taken.
Buendia I still think is the only one of our attacking players who can truly make things happen. He's generally always looking for a cute through-ball or a clever bit of play. I guess it won't always come off but I love that we have a player with the ability to see those options.
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
Me and my son are two if the 28,000 and we tried to get tickets. So for us at least it was crap administration rather than lack of demand.
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A similar incident to yesterdays penalty VAR debacle has just happened in the Sheff Utd v Blackburn FA Cup game & shock/horror, the referee missed it, but VAR did its job & highlighted it as handball to give Blackburn a penalty.
It comes to something when you are hoping beyond all hope that these consistent officiating "errors" are nothing more than just pure incompetence...
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at some point defenders are going to wear shirts with no sleeves, so their hands are always by their sides, its getting ludicrous now. No one knows what constitutes handball.
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Billing's a bit like Onana at Everton. A decent player for a crap team who'd probably do OK with us. I hope we're after a higher level than them though.
Yep, don't see what's better about him than Dendoncker who is just a bench warmer here despite being a regular starter for his previous club who were top 8 for a few seasons.
I think better midfielders than Billing will be on Emery's radar in next few months.
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For me handball needs to have an obvious degree of intent. Not this unnatural position bollocks which is rule today. The first one yesterday he clearly had his arms extended beyond what was incidental. The second one less so. What fans hate is the inconsistency between officials. It won’t shock me at all to see Arsenal get one today for less than the one we were denied.
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Forest penalty is classic example of what should be given as handball for a penalty.
Thought the Holte end claim was too close to him personally, first half was a very good shout though and probably should've been given on review.
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The same shocking decisions deprived us of all 3 points v WHU last week the penalty they were given was never a penalty and the one we were denied was a stone wall penalty.
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For me handball needs to have an obvious degree of intent. Not this unnatural position bollocks which is rule today. The first one yesterday he clearly had his arms extended beyond what was incidental. The second one less so. What fans hate is the inconsistency between officials. It won’t shock me at all to see Arsenal get one today for less than the one we were denied.
How can you say there was intent on the one yesterday when it was leathered at him full pelt from a few yards away. If that's habdball then it's completely down to the position of his arms and nothing else.
However, I agree they are the type that get given to bigger clubs and it could easily have been given via VAR.
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For me handball needs to have an obvious degree of intent. Not this unnatural position bollocks which is rule today. The first one yesterday he clearly had his arms extended beyond what was incidental. The second one less so. What fans hate is the inconsistency between officials. It won’t shock me at all to see Arsenal get one today for less than the one we were denied.
How can you say there was intent on the one yesterday when it was leathered at him full pelt from a few yards away. If that's habdball then it's completely down to the position of his arms and nothing else.
However, I agree they are the type that get given to bigger clubs and it could easily have been given via VAR.
He loses the benefit of the doubt as soon as he turns his back. The shot is far enough away that he is able to make a conscious decision how to position his body and arms. He’s trying to protect himself as the shot comes in. To me that’s intent.
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What was the applause for, around 20 minutes into the game?
They served a pint in under two minutes at the back of the Trinity.
Very good! Seriously though - what, or who, was it for?
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Boring first half, terrible atmosphere.
Second half much better, I'm not enjoying the football at all but this manager has his ways and we are getting results so long may it continue.
There were loads of empty seats yesterday all around the stadium. I've said this before you just simply do not see empty seats in 95% of premiership grounds like you do at Villa Park when it's not a 'big team' season ticket holders not turning up is still counted on the attendance but it's quite interesting
Where were the 28,000 in the upper away blocks yesterday? desperate for a slice of the action. I thought they'd be banging the ticket office doors down to get one of the golden tickets
Me and my son are two if the 28,000 and we tried to get tickets. So for us at least it was crap administration rather than lack of demand.
Same - logged on several times during week. No 2 seats available together
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Apart from the blocked-off rows, I also wonder if we were limited in how many of the rest could be sold due to the last-minute nature of availability.
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It would be much simpler if any hand contact with the ball is a penalty. Accidental? Protecting your pretty face? Tough shit.
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Apart from the blocked-off rows, I also wonder if we were limited in how many of the rest could be sold due to the last-minute nature of availability.
What do you mean by last minute nature sorry? Did we only find out late that Bournemouth weren't taking the top tier?
If there were fans who wanted to go, could have gone but weren't able to buy tickets then something's gone wrong somewhere.
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I bought my ticket to this game a couple of weeks ago, and I'm fairly sure that that part of the upper DE was then marked as for sale to home fans.
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I bought my ticket to this game a couple of weeks ago, and I'm fairly sure that that part of the upper DE was then marked as for sale to home fans.
The first I heard was when Ads mentioned it on here. Thursday maybe?
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I think the thing with the one yesterday was that it's a goal if his hand isn't there. It wasn't deliberate but it denied a goal scoring opportunity.
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Apart from the blocked-off rows, I also wonder if we were limited in how many of the rest could be sold due to the last-minute nature of availability.
What do you mean by last minute nature sorry? Did we only find out late that Bournemouth weren't taking the top tier?
If there were fans who wanted to go, could have gone but weren't able to buy tickets then something's gone wrong somewhere.
It was only during the week that they went on sale. There could have been reasons why sales were limited - lack of stewards or catering for example.
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If their fella is throwing his hands up (Beyonce style) to protect his face, he's aware enough that ball is close by and he is - or should be - running the risk of a penalty.
That's different to an attacker smashing the ball off a players arm or elbow and the defender not knowing anything about it. Or a Matt Cash v Fulham scenario where the defender attempts a slide tackle and the ball strikes his arm as he attempts to balance himself.
I've never seen a player attempt a slide tackle with his arms locked by his sides before. Though Antonio Luna prob gave it a good go.
Most people can prob make the distinction between accidental and deliberate based on the above. Apart from the current match day officials and the blind school holed up at Stockley Park, obv.
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So annoying when mine and Jane’s were left empty because they wouldn’t be resold until we were ‘sold out’.
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What was the applause for, around 20 minutes into the game?
This maybe?
https://twitter.com/TheVillaaaa/status/1637191552559636485
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So annoying when mine and Jane’s were left empty because they wouldn’t be resold until we were ‘sold out’.
I flogging mine when nessescary because I want to keep my season ticket when I move away, probably financially viable for me to give it up, but I want to keep it, should have added no point putting it on the club website to do it as it looks like they don't sell,
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So annoying when mine and Jane’s were left empty because they wouldn’t be resold until we were ‘sold out’.
I flogging mine when nessescary because I want to keep my season ticket when I move away, probably financially viable for me to give it up, but I want to keep it, should have added no point putting it on the club website to do it as it looks like they don't sell,
…but you can get banned for selling them down any other route so it’s risky. If I pass them onto friends then I always try to do it officially via the club, but the friends we used to pass tickets onto are all doing shifts now and can hardly ever make it
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Apart from the blocked-off rows, I also wonder if we were limited in how many of the rest could be sold due to the last-minute nature of availability.
What do you mean by last minute nature sorry? Did we only find out late that Bournemouth weren't taking the top tier?
If there were fans who wanted to go, could have gone but weren't able to buy tickets then something's gone wrong somewhere.
It was only during the week that they went on sale. There could have been reasons why sales were limited - lack of stewards or catering for example.
If those were the reasons though, they are really poor ones.
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I have placed my ST seats on sale twice this season through the club and sold both times.
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This season alone we’ve had the Cash handball away at Fulham and the Digne one away at Palace. Ridiculous penalty awards but given none the less. Both were much less penalties then the 3 yesterday. I’ve said it before and whilst I don’t agree with it, the club have to start putting pressure on the officials because that’s what you have to do. Arsenal had one decision given against them the other week and Coward Webb was straight over to the club to apologize and even bloody fired an official. That means that officials are less likely to give decisions against Arsenal. We can’t have it being, “oh, it’s only Villa.”
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I have placed my ST seats on sale twice this season through the club and sold both times.
Ours did sell earlier in the season but they seemed to be less strict about selling every last seat in the stadium first back then.
This week when we put ours in for resale, there were literally 26 seats left - all singles, all in Trinity upper tiers towards the edges. On Friday night there were literally 2 single seats left in B7. On Saturday morning there were none left and still our season ticket seats were not on sale.
It is shortsighted from the club because they only have to refund me £23 but can sell for about £35. On this thread I can see at least 2 people who might have bought them, & this pattern could have potentially been repeated across a lot of resale seats, making more money than they were holding out for. Why are the club turning this money down whilst simultaneously annoying both us and potential buyers?
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This season alone we’ve had the Cash handball away at Fulham and the Digne one away at Palace. Ridiculous penalty awards but given none the less. Both were much less penalties then the 3 yesterday. I’ve said it before and whilst I don’t agree with it, the club have to start putting pressure on the officials because that’s what you have to do. Arsenal had one decision given against them the other week and Coward Webb was straight over to the club to apologize and even bloody fired an official. That means that officials are less likely to give decisions against Arsenal. We can’t have it being, “oh, it’s only Villa.”
And Young away at Newcastle.
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This season alone we’ve had the Cash handball away at Fulham and the Digne one away at Palace. Ridiculous penalty awards but given none the less. Both were much less penalties then the 3 yesterday. I’ve said it before and whilst I don’t agree with it, the club have to start putting pressure on the officials because that’s what you have to do. Arsenal had one decision given against them the other week and Coward Webb was straight over to the club to apologize and even bloody fired an official. That means that officials are less likely to give decisions against Arsenal. We can’t have it being, “oh, it’s only Villa.”
And Young away at Newcastle.
I’d forgotten about that one. If that was a penalty the first two yesterday definitely were.
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Apart from the blocked-off rows, I also wonder if we were limited in how many of the rest could be sold due to the last-minute nature of availability.
What do you mean by last minute nature sorry? Did we only find out late that Bournemouth weren't taking the top tier?
If there were fans who wanted to go, could have gone but weren't able to buy tickets then something's gone wrong somewhere.
It was only during the week that they went on sale. There could have been reasons why sales were limited - lack of stewards or catering for example.
If those were the reasons though, they are really poor ones.
More than likely it's ground regulations rather than the club.
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I said I'm happy to play that way if we get results. Everyone was bored in the first half it was awful and the atmosphere was the same
I wasn't. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
TBF the first half was a bit boring and the atmosphere was quiet but there is a game plan that we have lacked for some time so I’ll take that every week if we win.
Once we got the second goal the atmosphere lifted and some of our play was excellent.
We will only get better with the players he wants and good times and good performances are ahead.
It’s a very good time to be a Villa fan.
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I don’t get the first half was boring posts. We could have scored 3 or 4 and all I remember is thinking have we let them off the hook at HT. There was nothing boring about it.
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
Some of us actually live in Birmingham and go to the games.
The football and atmosphere is boring but we are getting results.
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
Some of us actually live in Birmingham and go to the games.
The football and atmosphere is boring but we are getting results.
What is the point you are making about living in Birmingham and going to games?
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
Some of us actually live in Birmingham and go to the games.
The football and atmosphere is boring but we are getting results.
I go, am in Brum, and disagree on both points.
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How very DARE you move abroad?
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Disgraceful.
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
Some of us actually live in Birmingham and go to the games.
The football and atmosphere is boring but we are getting results.
What is the point you are making about living in Birmingham and going to games?
Oh, I think we know the (tedious) point he’s making…
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I thought the first half was really good, and a very enjoyable watch, right from the first minute.
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
Some of us actually live in Birmingham and go to the games.
The football and atmosphere is boring but we are getting results.
Some of us moved out of B'ham and now travel a fair distance to watch games.
It's really rather patronising to introduce the "better fan than you" card.
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I’ve been to a game with TV, I think it was the 0-0 bore draw with Middlesbrough in the Championship.
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I’ve been to a game with TV, I think it was the 0-0 bore draw with Middlesbrough in the Championship.
Fuck me. That was truly miserable. Only made better by the company and pint we enjoyed.
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How very DARE you move abroad?
Sorry.
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We played some really nice stuff in the first. They had a couple of looks too but we could and should have been further in front. Emery has us playing quite deliberately right now which I suppose to some could be boring. That will improve with players who are better on the ball but for right now, we are doing what he wants. If you want the results without the disciplines and methods then you aren’t appreciating the journey.
Some of us actually live in Birmingham and go to the games.
The football and atmosphere is boring but we are getting results.
What is the point you are making about living in Birmingham and going to games?
Oh, I think we know the (tedious) point he’s making…
Maybe some confusion between 'the journey' being the journey towards greatness that the team is making, and 'the journey' being the travelling to the game?
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I'm still in shock that there are nine teams threatened with relegation and we are not one of them. Happy days.
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I’ve been to a game with TV, I think it was the 0-0 bore draw with Middlesbrough in the Championship.
Fuck me. That was truly miserable. Only made better by the company and pint we enjoyed.
Did you have two straws at least?
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I don't live in Birmingham, still attend games, and yes I did enjoy it.
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I don't live in Birmingham. I don't attend games. Bad fan.
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I don't live in Birmingham. I don't attend games. Bad fan.
See, these are best fans IMO. 😉
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I don’t live in Birmingham, or the UK and attend games. Shame on me.
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I’ve been to a game with TV, I think it was the 0-0 bore draw with Middlesbrough in the Championship.
Fuck me. That was truly miserable. Only made better by the company and pint we enjoyed.
Did you have two straws at least?
It was pre Covid man. Absolutely not.
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3 Villa players in Garth Crook's 'Team of the Week' plus some praise for Unai. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65009535
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I'm still in shock that there are nine teams threatened with relegation and we are not one of them. Happy days.
This! It's very heartwarming:D
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I don’t get some negative posts about Buendia. Yesterday he tore them to shreds in the first 20 mins when we should have scored 2/3 more than we did. Gary O’Neill realised that and put a man on him for the rest of the half and Emi found it difficult to cope with that however got the better of his marker several times in the second half. It’s all part of his development from good to great and hopefully he will become great by dealing with close attention.
Our record signing, playing in his best position, shouldn't be losing possession as easily as Emi does. Great ball in for Watkins but that aside he was poor I thought.
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I don’t get some negative posts about Buendia. Yesterday he tore them to shreds in the first 20 mins when we should have scored 2/3 more than we did. Gary O’Neill realised that and put a man on him for the rest of the half and Emi found it difficult to cope with that however got the better of his marker several times in the second half. It’s all part of his development from good to great and hopefully he will become great by dealing with close attention.
Our record signing, playing in his best position, shouldn't be losing possession as easily as Emi does. Great ball in for Watkins but that aside he was poor I thought.
I think his first 5 touches gave away possession.
I like his creativity but is often at the expense of giving the ball away too often.
We are a posession based team and he is gong to need to improve this aspect of his game.
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3 Villa players in Garth Crook's 'Team of the Week' plus some praise for Unai. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65009535
Mind you he did say we’ve been steadily climbing the table. Haven’t we been eleventh for about 3 months?
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3 Villa players in Garth Crook's 'Team of the Week' plus some praise for Unai. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65009535
Mind you he did say we’ve been steadily climbing the table. Haven’t we been eleventh for about 3 months?
Far more important was his closing remark about Jacob
It would appear Aston Villa now have a grown-up in charge and not a manager who was learning on the job.
Someone in the press has finally got the message.
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Can someone tell me why there was a VAR check on our third goal? It's so deflating when the check comes onto the screen. No way could that be offside with two Bournemouth players on the goal line. The 'hand ball' that deflected JJ's goal bound shot over the bar should've been a penalty. Why didn't they ask the ref to check it on the pitch side monitor?
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I get a nagging feeling we're never going to get out of eleventh, finishing the season with a record points total for that position, and having to console ourselves with the knowledge of something along the lines of in two of the previous eighteen seasons it would have been enough for CL qualification.
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I get a nagging feeling we're never going to get out of eleventh, finishing the season with a record points total for that position, and having to console ourselves with the knowledge of something along the lines of in two of the previous eighteen seasons it would have been enough for CL qualification.
It does feel like this, but I hope Brighton, Fulham and maybe even Brentford start dropping some points. The gap is closing but because we’ve been rooted for so long in 11th it doesn’t feel like it. In the other hand our form is off the radar somewhat.
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Just as we get momentum with winning football matches, we get the international break
Thought we played well Saturday, some of our passing and movement was excellent
But again you can see why we need a centre back who is comfortable passing the ball into our midfield to make the Emery way of playing a success
For Bournemouth if they go down if they can keep their 3 attackers for next season they will score a lot of goals next season with the pace of their attack.
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I have little or no interest in International football so two weeks without the Villa to watch is a drag.
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3 Villa players in Garth Crook's 'Team of the Week' plus some praise for Unai. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65009535
Mind you he did say we’ve been steadily climbing the table. Haven’t we been eleventh for about 3 months?
Far more important was his closing remark about Jacob
It would appear Aston Villa now have a grown-up in charge and not a manager who was learning on the job.
Someone in the press has finally got the message.
The other interesting thing is the team picker thing at the bottom. the only Villa players not included were Konsa and Bailey.
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I have little or no interest in International football so two weeks without the Villa to watch is a drag.
Me too, though I console myself thinking we may have 9 subs again afterwards.
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I get a nagging feeling we're never going to get out of eleventh, finishing the season with a record points total for that position, and having to console ourselves with the knowledge of something along the lines of in two of the previous eighteen seasons it would have been enough for CL qualification.
It does feel like this, but I hope Brighton, Fulham and maybe even Brentford start dropping some points. The gap is closing but because we’ve been rooted for so long in 11th it doesn’t feel like it. In the other hand our form is off the radar somewhat.
Fulham and Brentford could be caught but Brighton look too strong to me. If we can get 8th or 9th that would seem a good reflection of our season given how poorly we started.
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Can’t have everything, but our best 90 minutes of the season so far.
Nah, Brentford.
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I get a nagging feeling we're never going to get out of eleventh, finishing the season with a record points total for that position, and having to console ourselves with the knowledge of something along the lines of in two of the previous eighteen seasons it would have been enough for CL qualification.
It does feel like this, but I hope Brighton, Fulham and maybe even Brentford start dropping some points. The gap is closing but because we’ve been rooted for so long in 11th it doesn’t feel like it. In the other hand our form is off the radar somewhat.
Fulham and Brentford could be caught but Brighton look too strong to me. If we can get 8th or 9th that would seem a good reflection of our season given how poorly we started.
That depends, they have a lot of games to fit in and don't have a huge amount of squad depth so I can see them getting a bit 'leggy' towards the end of April. Fulham will depend entirely on how big a ban Mitrovic gets but precedent suggest his season might be over. Brentford are similar with Toney but that's a weird one because it seems to be taking forever for the verdict to come out, it's been 3 weeks since there was any real news and I wouldn't expected an announcement whilst he's with the England squad.
I think it's a bit weird that people are ignoring Chelsea as well, they've been shit for months. They've managed 4 wins in 15 games since Emery arrived meaning we've gained 9 points on them. They have lots of very good players but I think far too many people are assuming they'll improve on the basis that it'll suddenly click and 'it's chelsea, of course they'll be in Europe'.
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I get a nagging feeling we're never going to get out of eleventh, finishing the season with a record points total for that position, and having to console ourselves with the knowledge of something along the lines of in two of the previous eighteen seasons it would have been enough for CL qualification.
It does feel like this, but I hope Brighton, Fulham and maybe even Brentford start dropping some points. The gap is closing but because we’ve been rooted for so long in 11th it doesn’t feel like it. In the other hand our form is off the radar somewhat.
Fulham and Brentford could be caught but Brighton look too strong to me. If we can get 8th or 9th that would seem a good reflection of our season given how poorly we started.
That depends, they have a lot of games to fit in and don't have a huge amount of squad depth so I can see them getting a bit 'leggy' towards the end of April. Fulham will depend entirely on how big a ban Mitrovic gets but precedent suggest his season might be over. Brentford are similar with Toney but that's a weird one because it seems to be taking forever for the verdict to come out, it's been 3 weeks since there was any real news and I wouldn't expected an announcement whilst he's with the England squad.
I think it's a bit weird that people are ignoring Chelsea as well, they've been shit for months. They've managed 4 wins in 15 games since Emery arrived meaning we've gained 9 points on them. They have lots of very good players but I think far too many people are assuming they'll improve on the basis that it'll suddenly click and 'it's chelsea, of course they'll be in Europe'.
They're still yet to click, but we're like a fucking orchestra of castanets at the moment. Not only are they going to have to click, but on current evidence tey're going to need almost title winning form to finish above us.
Fuck Chelsea, it's been a long time since we've gone down there expecting a result but that's where we're at.
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They are a hodge-podge of players at the moment, Chelsea, still. Given our away record and discipline, I think we should be confident of going to Stamford Bridge and winning 0-3.
I do like Joao Felix, though. Absolute touch of class about him.
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Has Emery finally found best system? - From The Guardian
Unai Emery took over from Steven Gerrard in October, and since then Villa have been better but still erratic, winning two consecutive league games just three times. The problem has not been a lack of good players – the club has plenty – but which of them to deploy, and in what formation. Perhaps, though, the right blend has finally been found, a 4-2-3-1 giving good balance between attack and defence – especially in midfield, with John McGinn and Douglas Luiz driving from deep while Leon Bailey, Emi Buendía and Jacob Ramsey dash and prompt in behind Ollie Watkins. All five were excellent against Bournemouth with Luiz, Ramsey and Buendía scoring. Emery faces a difficult decision when Boubacar Kamara is fit again – prior to his injury, McGinn was being crowbarred into the team on the right of a 4-4-2. In the meantime the current starting XI, which looks far more flexible than previous iterations, can bed in, allowing those in it the opportunity to make themselves undroppable. Daniel Harris
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3 Villa players in Garth Crook's 'Team of the Week' plus some praise for Unai. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65009535
Mind you he did say we’ve been steadily climbing the table. Haven’t we been eleventh for about 3 months?
Far more important was his closing remark about Jacob
It would appear Aston Villa now have a grown-up in charge and not a manager who was learning on the job.
Someone in the press has finally got the message.
thought you were going to mention this bit.
So what's changed at Villa Park since Steven Gerrard left? If you listen to Ramsey, it would appear an awful lot. The striker is playing considerably higher up the pitch in a role he likes and that plays to his strengths. His confidence is sky high and he's scoring goals.
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Ha, missed that completely when my jaw dropped open at the Gerrard comment.
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I do like Joao Felix, though. Absolute touch of class about him.
Pretty boy who has failed to live up to his billing for me. He is a good player though and I was excited by the prospect of us supposedly being after him even though we had very little chance of making it happen.
Regarding the game. At the final whistle I never felt it was a 3-0 victory thinking the scoreline flattered us a bit. Then, seeing the penalty claims I adjusted my thinking and thought we should have had a couple more. Our high line did worry me at times but we coped well with them even when they broke the line. Better sides might have made us pay. Mings was my MOM, he's immense at set pieces.
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In my opinion, the second half was a fantastic performance, bordering on fantastic at moments.
Unai Emery hinted that it was Villa's most competent display in the style he wants since taking over.
I'm looking forward to the game against Chelsea and how the players perfom under Emery's strategy.
Up The Villa!
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Has Emery finally found best system? - From The Guardian
Unai Emery took over from Steven Gerrard in October, and since then Villa have been better but still erratic, winning two consecutive league games just three times.
What a weird definition of "erratic". Most clubs outside the top four would be pretty happy with winning twice in a row three times in three months let alone all the other "one in a row" wins we've had.
Isn't our top four/five position since Emery took over a little bit more of an accurate reflection on how well he has done?
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I do like Joao Felix, though. Absolute touch of class about him.
Pretty boy who has failed to live up to his billing for me. He is a good player though and I was excited by the prospect of us supposedly being after him even though we had very little chance of making it happen.
Regarding the game. At the final whistle I never felt it was a 3-0 victory thinking the scoreline flattered us a bit. Then, seeing the penalty claims I adjusted my thinking and thought we should have had a couple more. Our high line did worry me at times but we coped well with them even when they broke the line. Better sides might have made us pay. Mings was my MOM, he's immense at set pieces.
I know what you mean about the high-line, but my thought on that would be that Emery was well aware and figured they weren't good enough to do anything about it.
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Konsa got caught on his heels really badly twice, and as Bren says better teams would have punished us. Konsa's one of the players who even in the improved run I still think we need to replace, if not with Carlos then with somebody else.
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That was a fantastic recovery challenge from Mings to stop Solanke (?) from getting a clean shot when through on goal.
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That was a fantastic recovery challenge from Mings to stop Solanke (?) from getting a clean shot when through on goal.
It was, although Solanke had overrun it anyway (thanks in part though to Mings) and had pulled it wide.
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That was a fantastic recovery challenge from Mings to stop Solanke (?) from getting a clean shot when through on goal.
It was, but it was really poor play by the striker, taking that extra touch to his left, and that led him nowhere.
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Has Emery finally found best system? - From The Guardian
Unai Emery took over from Steven Gerrard in October, and since then Villa have been better but still erratic, winning two consecutive league games just three times.
What a weird definition of "erratic". Most clubs outside the top four would be pretty happy with winning twice in a row three times in three months let alone all the other "one in a row" wins we've had.
Isn't our top four/five position since Emery took over a little bit more of an accurate reflection on how well he has done?
I think the writer may have meant erratic in the sense that when we win, we win deservedly and when we lose it’s a horror show of individual errors.
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Has Emery finally found best system? - From The Guardian
Unai Emery took over from Steven Gerrard in October, and since then Villa have been better but still erratic, winning two consecutive league games just three times.
What a weird definition of "erratic". Most clubs outside the top four would be pretty happy with winning twice in a row three times in three months let alone all the other "one in a row" wins we've had.
Isn't our top four/five position since Emery took over a little bit more of an accurate reflection on how well he has done?
I think the writer may have meant erratic in the sense that when we win, we win deservedly and when we lose it’s a horror show of individual errors.
I doubt it, I suspect they're just looked at the table and seen our position has been fairly steady and assumed it's because we're erratic.
(https://i.ibb.co/mFVPWPM/2023-03-20-13-07-24.png) (https://ibb.co/mFVPWPM)
That's not erratic, it's 1 bad run in a set of results that would be title contender level otherwise.
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Yeah I doubt it too, was just trying to give the guy a pass.
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Has Emery finally found best system? - From The Guardian
Unai Emery took over from Steven Gerrard in October, and since then Villa have been better but still erratic, winning two consecutive league games just three times.
What a weird definition of "erratic". Most clubs outside the top four would be pretty happy with winning twice in a row three times in three months let alone all the other "one in a row" wins we've had.
Isn't our top four/five position since Emery took over a little bit more of an accurate reflection on how well he has done?
Only Arsenal & the two plastic Manc clubs have better form than Villa since Emery took over...
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Has Emery finally found best system? - From The Guardian
Unai Emery took over from Steven Gerrard in October, and since then Villa have been better but still erratic, winning two consecutive league games just three times.
What a weird definition of "erratic". Most clubs outside the top four would be pretty happy with winning twice in a row three times in three months let alone all the other "one in a row" wins we've had.
Isn't our top four/five position since Emery took over a little bit more of an accurate reflection on how well he has done?
Only Arsenal & the two plastic Manc clubs have better form than Villa since Emery took over...
The more we are under the radar then that is good (even though i think Emery should be applauded for what he has done already)
The minute the knobs in the media start waxing about us will be the start all our decent players will be linked with the likes of the Red filth etc - just like we dared to have the best keeper in the world it was instantly thought that he would be joining one of the scum six - even mentioning Spurs FFS
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We've gone under the radar because our league position hasn't really changed, and that's what most people notice. We've gone from a relegation scrap, to last place in the top half battle, but that 'last place' is still eleven points clear of team behind us.
After we lost 4-0 to Newcastle in the last game before Emery took over, we were 1 point above the relegation places, 7 points from a European place, and 12 points from a top four place.
Today we are FOURTEEN points clear of relegation, 4 points from Europe, and 11 points from the top four. We've actually GAINED on the teams going for Europe and even the Champions League. That is a ridiculously good turn around for a team that was in the relegation mix.
I think we'll struggle to maintain the same form to the end of the season (not least because we've got some tough games coming up, certainly tougher than the last four), but there is absolutely no way we start next season without us being a few people's picks for the season's dark horses.
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We have played more games under Emery than a lot of the sides that are above us in the actual league table, and are also just behind us in the 'since he's been in charge table'. Quite a few have played 13 or 12 league games in the time we've played 14 under Unai. Not diminishing what he's done, i'm delighted with him.
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We've gone under the radar because our league position hasn't really changed, and that's what most people notice. We've gone from a relegation scrap, to last place in the top half battle, but that 'last place' is still eleven points clear of team behind us.
After we lost 4-0 to Newcastle in the last game before Emery took over, we were 1 point above the relegation places, 7 points from a European place, and 12 points from a top four place.
Today we are FOURTEEN points clear of relegation, 4 points from Europe, and 11 points from the top four. We've actually GAINED on the teams going for Europe and even the Champions League. That is a ridiculously good turn around for a team that was in the relegation mix.
I think we'll struggle to maintain the same form to the end of the season (not least because we've got some tough games coming up, certainly tougher than the last four), but there is absolutely no way we start next season without us being a few people's picks for the season's dark horses.
Yep I think people finally noticed we were ahead of Chelsea, even if it was only for a couple of hours, and are now level with them. The win against Palace is what put clear daylight between us and the Eagles, and therefore everybody else. Also the fact that we hammered Bournemouth who had just beaten Liverpool and played well against Arsenal probably helped.
When we beat Chelsea, the narrative will be that we're an unstoppable juggernaut....
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I'm really looking forward to the Chelsea game, the two games at Stamford Bridge last season (under Dean) were really harsh on us.
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What's really pleasing is that we won comfortably and still have plenty of areas in which we can improve. A couple of players could have done better (Bailey and Buendia particularly), and we don't yet have the squad depth to rotate things when things go wrong. Although to stick up for Buendia a bit, I can't believe how unlucky he is when it comes to assists - it seems everyone misses when he puts them through on goal, the poor bloke. It was the same last season as well. So happy for him to get his goal though (not least because I got 40/1 on him to score a header).
We started and finished the game so well. I don't think Bournemouth kicked the ball in our half in the first or last 10 minutes, which is incredible really. We were utterly dominant, and when we can start doing that for longer periods of matches, we'll be a serious team.
This was the result we all needed, I think. The perfect way to go into a break.
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We have played more games under Emery than a lot of the sides that are above us in the actual league table, and are also just behind us in the 'since he's been in charge table'. Quite a few have played 13 or 12 league games in the time we've played 14 under Unai. Not diminishing what he's done, i'm delighted with him.
The only teams who have played less games than us since the 1st November (picked to cover the games played in the same round as our horror show at Newcastle) are Brighton, Newcastle and West Ham all on 13. 9 teams have played 15 or 16 so, if anything, us being high up that table is slightly underestimating how well we've done. Again, as I posted earlier, be careful where you get stats like this from because a lot of sites use round/matchday rather than date which means the round 7 games which have been rearranged aren't being included in the stats.
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This is the table since Unai took over. It's bloody impressive however you want to look at it. Apologies for the quality I'm using my phone.
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(https://i.ibb.co/HnxBTZb/Screenshot-20230320-153544-Twitter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HnxBTZb)
This is the table since Unai took over. It's bloody impressive however you want to look at it. Apologies for the quality I'm using my phone.
Again, the table on transfermarkt is based on matchdays NOT date so that is missing some games.
https://www.statbunker.com/competitions/LeagueTable?comp_id=718&start_date=01-11-2022&end_date=28-05-2023&start_time=0&end_time=90 (https://www.statbunker.com/competitions/LeagueTable?comp_id=718&start_date=01-11-2022&end_date=28-05-2023&start_time=0&end_time=90) - this includes every game played since Emery took over (again, I'm using 1st November as the cut off because it's neat, I think he actually started on the 2nd or 3rd having been appointed on 24th October). I know I'm being pedantic with this and it doesn't really change much 7 of the 10 games that were cancelled because of the queens death have now been played and they do have an impact on that table.
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The standard fan vlog theory from Bournemouth seems to be "no disrespect, but we should be beating these".
Those days are over my friends.
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The standard fan vlog theory from Bournemouth seems to be "no disrespect, but we should be beating these".
Those days are over my friends.
Don't normally look at them but the above prompted me to have a look at the 'Back of the Net' vlog. One of the better ones I've seen and pretty complimentary about us.
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The standard fan vlog theory from Bournemouth seems to be "no disrespect, but we should be beating these".
Those days are over my friends.
The days when Bournemouth should be beating Aston Villa never began. The days when they did beat us are to our eternal shame.
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The standard fan vlog theory from Bournemouth seems to be "no disrespect, but we should be beating these".
Those days are over my friends.
The days when Bournemouth should be beating Aston Villa never began. The days when they did beat us are to our eternal shame.
Brilliantly put Rory!
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It's bloody impressive however you want to look at it.
Except the goal difference, but I think we all know the defence needs sorting.
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It's bloody impressive however you want to look at it.
Except the goal difference, but I think we all know the defence needs sorting.
Don't forget though that we conceded 11 in 3 games where things just fell apart a bit. Our defensive record either side of that little spell has been good under Emery, 8 in 11, it's why the Leicester result in particular was so strange.
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Everything that could go wrong in that game, did go wrong.
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Everything that could go wrong in that game, did go wrong.
Think they had 4 shots on target and scored 4 times. They did the same at Wolves earlier in the season. I watched them against Southampton the other week and it was like an Emile Heskey masterclass, they were finding new and inventive ways to fuck up clear cut chances, the twats.
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
It is - it will be good when that is the case for most or even all positions.
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
The only problem, of course, being that if he doesn't walk back into the team we'll have to listen to ideas that it's because he cut ahead of Emery in the lunch line and took the last paella (and didn't even say it properly) so he's not allowed back in the team and will be replaced by a spanish speaking player in the summer.
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
The only problem, of course, being that if he doesn't walk back into the team we'll have to listen to ideas that it's because he cut ahead of Emery in the lunch line and took the last paella (and didn't even say it properly) so he's not allowed back in the team and will be replaced by a spanish speaking player in the summer.
And will mean the fictitious 28k season ticket waiting list will go into reverse. Probably close down the Trinity next year as we won't sell more than 30000 seats for any game
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
The only problem, of course, being that if he doesn't walk back into the team we'll have to listen to ideas that it's because he cut ahead of Emery in the lunch line and took the last paella (and didn't even say it properly) so he's not allowed back in the team and will be replaced by a spanish speaking player in the summer.
And will mean the fictitious 28k season ticket waiting list will go into reverse. Probably close down the Trinity next year as we won't sell more than 30000 seats for any game
Hang on a minute… we’re getting our trolls mixed up aren’t we?
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
The only problem, of course, being that if he doesn't walk back into the team we'll have to listen to ideas that it's because he cut ahead of Emery in the lunch line and took the last paella (and didn't even say it properly) so he's not allowed back in the team and will be replaced by a spanish speaking player in the summer.
And will mean the fictitious 28k season ticket waiting list will go into reverse. Probably close down the Trinity next year as we won't sell more than 30000 seats for any game
Hang on a minute… we’re getting our trolls mixed up aren’t we?
cross trolling ?
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Everything that could go wrong in that game, did go wrong.
We were the better team too. Just one of those days. Then Man City and Arsenal, which is what it is. We've tightened up so well and Emery clearly took it personally and fucking sorted it out.
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Pretty much every player dropped bollox to gift them the goals. Kamara was at fault for two which was the big shock.
The good thing at the moment is that Kamara isn't just walking back into this team.
The only problem, of course, being that if he doesn't walk back into the team we'll have to listen to ideas that it's because he cut ahead of Emery in the lunch line and took the last paella (and didn't even say it properly) so he's not allowed back in the team and will be replaced by a spanish speaking player in the summer.
And will mean the fictitious 28k season ticket waiting list will go into reverse. Probably close down the Trinity next year as we won't sell more than 30000 seats for any game
Hang on a minute… we’re getting our trolls mixed up aren’t we?
cross trolling ?
If the cap fits or maybe Kamara needs to drop the beret to find favour
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Everything that could go wrong in that game, did go wrong.
We were the better team too. Just one of those days. Then Man City and Arsenal, which is what it is. We've tightened up so well and Emery clearly took it personally and fucking sorted it out.
I think first half v Man City was the only time we’ve been outclassed since Emery took over.
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Everything that could go wrong in that game, did go wrong.
We were the better team too. Just one of those days. Then Man City and Arsenal, which is what it is. We've tightened up so well and Emery clearly took it personally and fucking sorted it out.
I think first half v Man City was the only time we’ve been outclassed since Emery took over.
Thought it hurts me to say this, I think Wolves outclassed us first half, too.
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Everything that could go wrong in that game, did go wrong.
We were the better team too. Just one of those days. Then Man City and Arsenal, which is what it is. We've tightened up so well and Emery clearly took it personally and fucking sorted it out.
I think first half v Man City was the only time we’ve been outclassed since Emery took over.
Thought it hurts me to say this, I think Wolves outclassed us first half, too.
They did, as poor as we were, they were excellent in that first half, though we should of won in the end. At that point i thought there was no way Wolves would be in trouble, but they are getting dragged back in.
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I don't think Wolves outclassed us as such, I think they managed to control the tempo and get under our skin a bit. I think where we are now as a team that wouldn't happen again.
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I don't think Wolves outclassed us as such, I think they managed to control the tempo and get under our skin a bit. I think where we are now as a team that wouldn't happen again.
Fair comment
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Wolves were much better than us first half, but we're a totally different team now.
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I picked a lousy week to quit sniffing glue.
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(Inhales, then hair flares out).