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Title: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Smirker on March 06, 2023, 11:38:44 AM
Kick off Sunday, 2pm.

Starting it now because I'm excited for it as we are on a roll. Could a mod add a poll please?

I think we will finally beat the Kit Stealers.

FTF  8)
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 06, 2023, 11:54:38 AM
2-0 to the original claret & blue.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
Where's the poll?!

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 06, 2023, 12:10:28 PM

 Could a mod add a poll please?


Click on modify TR corner of your original post, you should then see an option to create a poll.
We need get away from this namby pamby approach of asking others to spoon feed us.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 12:47:34 PM
I don't think the proles can one add after. You need to simply click "new poll" rather than "new topic" when you take on the important task of creating a new match thread. Anything else is just pure amateurism. ;)
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: sid1964 on March 06, 2023, 12:49:28 PM
Watched the interview with Rice after the Brighton game, they will be desperate to beat us.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: darren woolley on March 06, 2023, 01:06:11 PM
I can see us winning 2-1.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: paul_e on March 06, 2023, 01:10:31 PM
0-2 Watkins and Ramsey.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 01:11:20 PM
2-2, Ings with at least one for them.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 06, 2023, 01:24:19 PM
I can see Villa getting a result in this game! UTV!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 06, 2023, 01:42:44 PM
Honestly, amateurs starting pre match threads with no poll.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 06, 2023, 01:53:46 PM
I doubt we can trust a poll that moderators in the pay of H & V tag on after the thread has started. Stop the steal !
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2023, 01:56:53 PM
Does this mean that two-faced wanker sendo will be on here this week?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Bad English on March 06, 2023, 02:07:18 PM
I don't think the proles can one add after. You need to simply click "new poll" rather than "new topic" when you take on the important task of creating a new match thread. Anything else is just pure amateurism. ;)
And, as always, we know it is a thread.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Dr Butler on March 06, 2023, 02:11:08 PM
please just win please Villa and then I can bathe in the whining and moaning from the local kit stealing supporters....

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Nev on March 06, 2023, 02:13:18 PM
I shall follow the lead of the Guardian and completely ignore the fact that we are playing and focus on our opponents.

The green shoots of revival indicated by their last home win certainly vanished pretty quickly with a heavy defeat last time out, so the pressure is on Moyes as once again his team take to the field in front of 50,000 loyal Hammers fans, soundtracked by artificial crowd noises from a memory stick plugged into the PA laptop.

0-20
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 06, 2023, 02:30:50 PM
2-2, Ings with at least one for them.

Forgot about Ings, 2-1 to us.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2023, 02:33:39 PM
We've won 1 of the last 13 against them, and 0 of the last 9. The only win was under Sherwood.

4-1 us.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 06, 2023, 02:37:57 PM
Haven't beaten West Ham in my daughter's lifetime.

Fancy us to win this though.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 06, 2023, 02:49:29 PM
0-0

VAR to the rescue.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 02:53:10 PM
Haven't beaten West Ham in my daughter's lifetime.

Fancy us to win this though.

Funnily enough the last win under Sherwood was the first game I took my eldest two kids to.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 06, 2023, 03:01:20 PM
Them being pulverised by Brighton is bad for us.

Can see them jamming one from a set piece or mistake by one of our lot, which seems to be the only sort of goals scored when we face these.

If we get an early goal it could turn ugly. Or uglier. Quite impressive, when you consider some of the mutants they have in the stands and the dug out.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 06, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
Does this mean that two-faced wanker sendo will be on here this week?

Can't we forgive him, ruffle him on the head and express sympathy for his club's plight?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Rotterdam on March 06, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
Classic Villa...2-0 to WestSpam
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Legion on March 06, 2023, 03:42:27 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 06, 2023, 03:46:47 PM
Ings....he wouldn't dare, would he...?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Skerra on March 06, 2023, 03:48:31 PM
West Ham need the points badly and they have Ings who wasn’t good enough for us. What could possibly go wrong!’
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on March 06, 2023, 03:55:06 PM
Or, the crowd will be tetchy as they often are there, we'll start quickly as we often do, and they don't recover.

Massive pressure on Moyes, without much to suggest he can turn this around. Last week was a freak result for them, I'm confident
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 06, 2023, 04:12:27 PM
A draw  I think, for no other reason than we're due one.  If Kamara was fit I'd be more confident of the win.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: villadelph on March 06, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
No chance we lose this.. they've got a 8pm kickoff in Cyprus on Thursday, back to London on Friday, Saturday off and then face a rested Villa on Sunday.

I hope we can keep the ball and run them ragged.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 06, 2023, 04:30:28 PM
We've won 1 of the last 13 against them, and 0 of the last 9. The only win was under Sherwood.

4-1 us.

Blimey...that's quite some stat.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2023, 04:42:06 PM
We've won 1 of the last 13 against them, and 0 of the last 9. The only win was under Sherwood.

4-1 us.

Blimey...that's quite some stat.

helping them to go down with a win this weekend will help a lot. They have been a bogey team for a good while. I'd much rather Everton stay up by comparison.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 06, 2023, 05:09:29 PM
No chance we lose this.. they've got a 8pm kickoff in Cyprus on Thursday, back to London on Friday, Saturday off and then face a rested Villa on Sunday.

I hope we can keep the ball and run them ragged.

That's a ban, surely. Absolutely reckless optimism
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 06, 2023, 05:50:24 PM
For the final time, this is why we need to win: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/03/west-ham-used-club-money-to-donate-conservative-party-2022
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 06, 2023, 06:02:33 PM
For the final time, this is why we need to win: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/03/west-ham-used-club-money-to-donate-conservative-party-2022

BUT U CANT BRING POLITICS INTO SPORT!?!!?!!?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 06, 2023, 06:38:34 PM
For the final time, this is why we need to win: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/03/west-ham-used-club-money-to-donate-conservative-party-2022

BUT U CANT BRING POLITICS INTO SPORT!?!!?!!?

IKR. SUM1 SHUD TELL WHAM!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on March 06, 2023, 06:44:59 PM
For the final time, this is why we need to win: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/03/west-ham-used-club-money-to-donate-conservative-party-2022
wasn't our Karen once CEO of a "all our fans are working class"club
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: wince on March 06, 2023, 06:54:18 PM
Play them after they had a drubbing. We’ve seen this one before!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2023, 06:55:55 PM
Play them after they had a drubbing. We’ve seen this one before!

Last week it was "They haven't won for eight games. We know what comes next."
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2023, 06:59:09 PM
Everton have a new manager bounce, Maupay hasn't scored for ages, we know what comes next. 3 points because they're shit.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clampy on March 06, 2023, 07:17:13 PM
The negativity sometimes is just draining.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2023, 07:22:55 PM
The negativity sometimes is just draining.

it is but as a supporter base over the past few decades we have missed out on so many golden opportunities to not be this club. And all the things that people fear will happen often has. It will take some time for that belief that we are consistent and confident to work its way back through the club that this guy is finally the right manager and the leadership at the club will support his objectives.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 07:25:00 PM
Everton have a new manager bounce, Maupay hasn't scored for ages, we know what comes next. 3 points because they're shit.

We’ve won 1 of the last 13 against them. ;)
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2023, 07:29:27 PM
Everton have a new manager bounce, Maupay hasn't scored for ages, we know what comes next. 3 points because they're shit.

We’ve won 1 of the last 13 against them. ;)

And what was my match prediction?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2023, 07:31:25 PM
Everton have a new manager bounce, Maupay hasn't scored for ages, we know what comes next. 3 points because they're shit.

We’ve won 1 of the last 13 against them. ;)

I hope West Ham fans are thinking Villa have only won 1 of 13 against us and you know what comes next
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 06, 2023, 07:34:58 PM
West Ham have been largely shite this season including when they best us 1-0 under Stevie G. I have no love for them and wouldn’t mind if they went down, i cant stand Brady, who i met once and she seemed genuinely vile in real life, but i do feel a bit for Moyes, who is a very good manager imo.

Saying all that, i think we’ll win 2-1 (Watkins and Beundia) and that will be that Moyes.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 06, 2023, 07:37:39 PM
Play them after they had a drubbing. We’ve seen this one before!

Last week it was "They haven't won for eight games. We know what comes next."
You beat me to it Dave!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 06, 2023, 07:48:47 PM
After participating in  Thursday matches where they travel away, West Ham have only won two Prem games playing in Europa Conference league action. So, once against us and once against Fulham.

What's telling about both of those Premier League victories is that their flights on Thursday to Anderlect took less than an hour and an Denmark less than an hour and a half, causing far less disruption to their Sunday match. It's significant that both of those Premier League wins came when they had an under 2 hour  travel time.

This season, they have never won a match in the Prem after they have travelled further distances on the Thursday

West Ham must fly to Cyprus for the Thursday match, which will take four and a half hours each way.

It's a sign.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 06, 2023, 07:51:44 PM
Everton have a new manager bounce, Maupay hasn't scored for ages, we know what comes next. 3 points because they're shit.

We’ve won 1 of the last 13 against them. ;)

Bloody hell risso depress  me some more. Can't you just say we haven't been very successful in the last 13.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Bad English on March 06, 2023, 07:51:58 PM
Villa's coach will have to come down the M6 from Bodymoor, which will take about 6 hours
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 07:53:38 PM
Everton have a new manager bounce, Maupay hasn't scored for ages, we know what comes next. 3 points because they're shit.

We’ve won 1 of the last 13 against them. ;)

Bloody hell risso depress  me some more. Can't you just say we haven't been very successful in the last 13.

I was quoting PWS's stats, although as he rightly points out, he predicted a win anyway.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 06, 2023, 08:25:55 PM
West Ham have been largely shite this season including when they best us 1-0 under Steven G. I have no love for them and wouldn’t mind if they went down, i cant stand Brady, who i met once and she seemed genuinely vile in real life, but i do feel a bit for Moyes, who is a very good manager imo.

Saying all that, i think we’ll win 2-1 (Watkins and Beundia) and that will be that Moyes.

The same Davis Moyes who thought he was too good for us on several occasions? If beating West Ham London means he loses his job I won't be crying... well maybe with laughter. I just hope the Spammers can wait just one more league game. Talk of Mark Noble taking over until the end of the season. West Ham are dreaming if they think Carrick would leave Boro for them.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 06, 2023, 09:49:47 PM
Five straight league defeats v this lot, wow.

0 wins in 7 since we came back up and not like our record was that good v them before relegation. Our last win at Upton Park was in 2011.

Interested people's theories as to why our record is so bad v them. To me it's 99% mentality.

Yes they're very physical but so have been Palace and Everton recently and we comfortably beat both, indeed we have a brilliant record v Everton in last four years.

Yes West Ham have been 6th and 7th in recent seasons but that's similar to Leicester who we took 4 points off last season and also won away to in 20/21.

With Man. City they must be the only team we've failed to beat since coming back up?

Feels like it's time to change that but 1-1 feels right to me as will have to see how the midfield functions without Kamara again.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 06, 2023, 09:53:50 PM
No chance we lose this.. they've got a 8pm kickoff in Cyprus on Thursday, back to London on Friday, Saturday off and then face a rested Villa on Sunday.

I hope we can keep the ball and run them ragged.

Kicking off at 5.45pm on Thursday and given their plight I can't believe Moyes will play strongest 11. They'll leave likes of Rice and Bowen in London imo.

Funnily enough we had the same situation last season as they were playing the two legs v Sevilla either side of the home match v us. Think we were the only team in last three months to actually lose to them on a Sunday.

Earlier this season was peak Gerrard aswell. West Ham basically played for a 0-0 from kick off and still beat us with us barely having a shock.

Don't think it's good for us that Zouma is back, he usually has good games v us and type of CB Ollie tends to struggle against.

Fancy a McGinn goal in this.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Smirker on March 06, 2023, 09:53:57 PM
Honestly think we'll score a few.

3 or 4 nil to us.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 06, 2023, 10:11:00 PM
I'm not sure how many we'll score, but I think we'll win to nil. We'll be calculated and efficient, and put these away. I'm certain of it.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 06, 2023, 10:35:47 PM
They have bullied us in the past , they are our bogey team , I would take a draw
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Skerra on March 06, 2023, 11:10:21 PM
Oh, and don’t forget Antonio hasn’t scored since the Ice Age!!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 06, 2023, 11:58:10 PM
Yeah but he's got his own footballer's podcast, so lay off 'im, innit.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 07, 2023, 05:34:10 AM
West Ham have been largely shite this season including when they best us 1-0 under Steven G. I have no love for them and wouldn’t mind if they went down, i cant stand Brady, who i met once and she seemed genuinely vile in real life, but i do feel a bit for Moyes, who is a very good manager imo.

Saying all that, i think we’ll win 2-1 (Watkins and Beundia) and that will be that Moyes.

The same Davis Moyes who thought he was too good for us on several occasions? If beating West Ham London means he loses his job I won't be crying... well maybe with laughter. I just hope the Spammers can wait just one more league game. Talk of Mark Noble taking over until the end of the season. West Ham are dreaming if they think Carrick would leave Boro for them.

I dont think Moyes supposedly turning us down twice when we were a basket case of a club and him being a decent manager are mutually exclusive.
Anyway, it seems like the way the seasons panning out either one of them, Everton or Leeds will go with Bournemouth and Southampton, unless Leicester continue to drop. Dont’t really care too much about all that, just hope we beat them for once. Another Emery masterclass of not seeming to play that well but coming away with a 2-0 will more than do for me.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: wince on March 07, 2023, 07:55:14 AM
Play them after they had a drubbing. We’ve seen this one before!

Last week it was "They haven't won for eight games. We know what comes next."
Dave, let me be miserable and pessimistic when it comes to the villa. It’s my right as a Brummie and a villa fan to get nose bleeds at the thought of the top half!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: manic-road on March 07, 2023, 08:17:57 AM
If we keep West Ham quiet for the first 20 minutes the crowd will turn, they are under pressure to get results. Win 0-2 Watkins and Mings.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: wince on March 07, 2023, 08:22:44 AM
What’s our record at their soulless bowl? I do hope we can get a convincing win there and Chelsea don’t get a decent result as be great to leapfrog the Chelsea road block.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 07, 2023, 08:39:31 AM
What’s our record at their soulless bowl? I do hope we can get a convincing win there and Chelsea don’t get a decent result as be great to leapfrog the Chelsea road block.
We win every game  :o
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on March 07, 2023, 09:26:16 AM
Oh, and don’t forget Antonio hasn’t scored since the Ice Age!!

He scored two league games ago.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 07, 2023, 09:32:11 AM
Oh, and don’t forget Antonio hasn’t scored since the Ice Age!!

The recent one that disrupted the growing of tomatoes?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Beard82 on March 07, 2023, 10:15:46 AM
We either win, and Moyes gets sacked, or they win 1 nil with Ings scoring
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 07, 2023, 11:21:57 AM
What’s our record at their soulless bowl? I do hope we can get a convincing win there and Chelsea don’t get a decent result as be great to leapfrog the Chelsea road block.

We've only played once there infront of a crowd and that was last season. Previous was the 1-1 that kept us up in summer 2020 and lost 2-1 when Ollie missed a last minute penalty.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: wince on March 07, 2023, 11:45:54 AM
What’s our record at their soulless bowl? I do hope we can get a convincing win there and Chelsea don’t get a decent result as be great to leapfrog the Chelsea road block.

We've only played once there infront of a crowd and that was last season. Previous was the 1-1 that kept us up in summer 2020 and lost 2-1 when Ollie missed a last minute penalty.

Thanks Soccer. We should have enough to put these to the sword but I don't know. I thought they had been in their new ground longer than that for some reason.
I think we will draw 1-1 but if we can get into them from the off, they may have their confidence shaken. It is nice to be looking up the table again though.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Mellin on March 07, 2023, 05:55:07 PM
We haven't beaten them in the 7 games since we came back up, including losing the last 5. Well, well overdue.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 07, 2023, 08:39:43 PM
Musical chairs to.continue between Digne and Moreno in the LB spot? Hopefully Dendoncker is back so we get a good look at him as Kamara's replacement.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: andyh on March 07, 2023, 10:42:57 PM
Hopefully Dendoncker is back…….said nobody, ever 😂
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on March 07, 2023, 11:43:43 PM
I think Dendoncker's OK
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 08, 2023, 06:09:54 AM
I think Dendoncker's OK
Yep me too
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 08, 2023, 09:05:08 AM
He pwn'd Brentford when we hammered them and no one has got the better of them since. The Stevenage thing was unfortunate but he deserves another shot at the big time.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: OCD on March 08, 2023, 11:33:14 AM
Musical chairs to.continue between Digne and Moreno in the LB spot? Hopefully Dendoncker is back so we get a good look at him as Kamara's replacement.

He seems to like to play Digne in away games and Moreno in home games.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 08, 2023, 02:27:52 PM
He pwn'd Brentford when we hammered them and no one has got the better of them since. The Stevenage thing was unfortunate but he deserves another shot at the big time.
He was also excellent in Emerys first game against Man Utd. He’s no Kamara, but that doesn’t mean he’s shit.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 08, 2023, 02:35:28 PM
He pwn'd Brentford when we hammered them and no one has got the better of them since. The Stevenage thing was unfortunate but he deserves another shot at the big time.
He was also excellent in Emerys first game against Man Utd. He’s no Kamara, but that doesn’t mean he’s shit.

He's pretty cumbersome and never going to be the most mobile, but he's strong and can pass the ball quite well.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 08, 2023, 03:49:24 PM
West Ham have been largely shite this season including when they best us 1-0 under Steven G. I have no love for them and wouldn’t mind if they went down, i cant stand Brady, who i met once and she seemed genuinely vile in real life, but i do feel a bit for Moyes, who is a very good manager imo.

Saying all that, i think we’ll win 2-1 (Watkins and Beundia) and that will be that Moyes.

The same Davis Moyes who thought he was too good for us on several occasions? If beating West Ham London means he loses his job I won't be crying... well maybe with laughter. I just hope the Spammers can wait just one more league game. Talk of Mark Noble taking over until the end of the season. West Ham are dreaming if they think Carrick would leave Boro for them.

I dont think Moyes supposedly turning us down twice when we were a basket case of a club and him being a decent manager are mutually exclusive. 

Not sure we were 'a basket case' on every occasion we approached him.
Decent manager? I've never rated him and was delighted when he never joined us in the Championship. One good season in the last 10 years. If that's what you call decent you're in for a big, pleasant surprise..
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 08, 2023, 04:05:57 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 08, 2023, 04:07:13 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?

Please just stop.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 08, 2023, 04:13:20 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?

Nothing. And no.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 08, 2023, 04:17:45 PM
We can all see or look for signs. Sports superstitions are a thing.
I'm sure plenty have a ritual or see or do things which they believe will influence the result.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 08, 2023, 04:26:45 PM
He pwn'd Brentford when we hammered them and no one has got the better of them since. The Stevenage thing was unfortunate but he deserves another shot at the big time.
He was also excellent in Emerys first game against Man Utd. He’s no Kamara, but that doesn’t mean he’s shit.

He's pretty cumbersome and never going to be the most mobile, but he's strong and can pass the ball quite well.

I don't recall a player that runs so upright as him, it's like he has a broom strapped to his back, he's almost robotic. Really strange. He does read the game well and as you say, can pass a simple ball. He'll never be a box to box player but will hopefully stop us getting bullied in midfield.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 08, 2023, 04:43:25 PM
He pwn'd Brentford when we hammered them and no one has got the better of them since. The Stevenage thing was unfortunate but he deserves another shot at the big time.
He was also excellent in Emerys first game against Man Utd. He’s no Kamara, but that doesn’t mean he’s shit.

He's pretty cumbersome and never going to be the most mobile, but he's strong and can pass the ball quite well.

I don't recall a player that runs so upright as him, it's like he has a broom strapped to his back, he's almost robotic. Really strange. He does read the game well and as you say, can pass a simple ball. He'll never be a box to box player but will hopefully stop us getting bullied in midfield.

First time he appeared for us I said he ran like he had a broomstick up his arse.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 08, 2023, 05:01:12 PM

I don't recall a player that runs so upright as him, it's like he has a broom strapped to his back, he's almost robotic. Really strange. He does read the game well and as you say, can pass a simple ball. He'll never be a box to box player but will hopefully stop us getting bullied in midfield.

He's the anti John McGinn in that regard, who runs bent over like he's carrying two heavy bags of shopping.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: paul_e on March 08, 2023, 05:14:46 PM
He pwn'd Brentford when we hammered them and no one has got the better of them since. The Stevenage thing was unfortunate but he deserves another shot at the big time.
He was also excellent in Emerys first game against Man Utd. He’s no Kamara, but that doesn’t mean he’s shit.

He's pretty cumbersome and never going to be the most mobile, but he's strong and can pass the ball quite well.

I don't recall a player that runs so upright as him, it's like he has a broom strapped to his back, he's almost robotic. Really strange. He does read the game well and as you say, can pass a simple ball. He'll never be a box to box player but will hopefully stop us getting bullied in midfield.

He is good in the air though so if you could work with him to attack the box as crosses are coming in I think he could add a few more goals to his game.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 08, 2023, 06:05:18 PM
It's away from home, so of course we'll win.

These fuckers have already been pre-funeralled, they're just too thick to realise.

Too busy blowing bubbles, running their market stalls, wearing flat caps and bad jewellery, going 'ap west', and struggling with poor sight after a couple of seasons straining to see the pitch from their seat at that abysmal shit hole they play in.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 08, 2023, 06:14:30 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?

Please just stop.

It’s never going to stop. It’s not a trickle of nonsensical made up diarrhea. It’s a full on waterfall.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 08, 2023, 06:36:35 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?

Please just stop.

It’s never going to stop. It’s not a trickle of nonsensical made up diarrhea. It’s a full on waterfall.
It's  not nonsensical though is it.
As it makes sense wheres as nonsense is literally no sense. So as it can conceivably happen one can sense it or not.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: wince on March 08, 2023, 06:38:20 PM
I sense a great disturbance in The Force......
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: OCD on March 08, 2023, 06:50:43 PM
The penalty is more likely to be because we had a player fouled in the penalty box than who was refereeing that day.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 08, 2023, 07:19:56 PM
Tomorrow West Ham go to Cyprus to play the mighty AEK Larnaca, not expecting them to play a strong team, some of their top players will probably not even travel.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 08, 2023, 07:26:52 PM
Tomorrow West Ham go to Cyprus to play the mighty AEK Larnaca, not expecting them to play a strong team, some of their top players will probably not even travel.
As signs go that's not good.
Moyes can't afford to lose tomorrow though.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 08, 2023, 07:30:06 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?

Please just stop.

It’s never going to stop. It’s not a trickle of nonsensical made up diarrhea. It’s a full on waterfall.
It's  not nonsensical though is it.
As it makes sense wheres as nonsense is literally no sense. So as it can conceivably happen one can sense it or not.


It makes sense in the sense that all the words you write, written in the order you do, they have a meaning, they fulfill the syntactical rules of the English language, and you succeed in communicating your point.

All the words, in the right order, if you wish.

The problem is that the message they convey is one of absolute batshit nonsense, as I suspect you know.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 08, 2023, 07:37:03 PM
The official is Chris Kavanagh.
He awarded a penalty that Danny Ings scored for us in our 2-1 win away at Brighton, the only match he's officiated for us this season.
So positive signs all there its just Ings is now at West Ham so not sure what we can read into that as a total plus but having won and away from home and a penalty then shows chances to happen again perhaps?

Please just stop.

It’s never going to stop. It’s not a trickle of nonsensical made up diarrhea. It’s a full on waterfall.
It's  not nonsensical though is it.
As it makes sense wheres as nonsense is literally no sense. So as it can conceivably happen one can sense it or not.


It makes sense in the sense that all the words you write, written in the order you do, they have a meaning, they fulfill the syntactical rules of the English language, and you succeed in communicating your point.

All the words, in the right order, if you wish.

The problem is that the message they convey is one of absolute batshit nonsense, as I suspect you know.

Reminds of a production manager we used to have. As my plant engineer put it. "I recognise all of the words as English, they even sound like cogent sentences but put them all together and you've got fluent bullshit."
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 08, 2023, 07:37:34 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 08, 2023, 07:50:50 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Yes it means they're generally utter fuckin bobbins and we should be giving them a good going over.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 08, 2023, 09:37:58 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Yes it means they're generally utter fuckin bobbins and we should be giving them a good going over.

Come Sunday night he’ll be relating it to one of these ‘points’ and saying ‘I told you’.

Like when he tipped Villa to beat Man City a couple of weeks ago because we lost the week before, then said Man City won because they also lost the week before.

I just wished he’d take up gambling for a living; before you know it he wouldn’t be able to afford internet.



Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 08, 2023, 09:43:27 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Yes it means they're generally utter fuckin bobbins and we should be giving them a good going over.

Come Sunday night he’ll be relating it to one of these ‘points’ and saying ‘I told you’.

Like when he tipped Villa to beat Man City a couple of weeks ago because we lost the week before, then said Man City won because they also lost the week before.

It could be a draw too - I mean a very tiny chance it could get postponed too.

It's a tough won
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 08, 2023, 09:46:00 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Yes it means they're generally utter fuckin bobbins and we should be giving them a good going over.

Come Sunday night he’ll be relating it to one of these ‘points’ and saying ‘I told you’.

Like when he tipped Villa to beat Man City a couple of weeks ago because we lost the week before, then said Man City won because they also lost the week before.

It could be a draw too - I mean a very tiny chance it could get postponed too.

It's a tough won

I’m thinking West Ham might just award us the points as compensation for those kits they won. It’s a theory apparently.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 08, 2023, 09:54:03 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Yes it means they're generally utter fuckin bobbins and we should be giving them a good going over.

Come Sunday night he’ll be relating it to one of these ‘points’ and saying ‘I told you’.

Like when he tipped Villa to beat Man City a couple of weeks ago because we lost the week before, then said Man City won because they also lost the week before.

It could be a draw too - I mean a very tiny chance it could get postponed too.

It's a tough won

I’m thinking West Ham might just award us the points as compensation for those kits they won. It’s a theory apparently.
It’s not the worst one I have seen on here.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 08, 2023, 10:10:29 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Yes it means they're generally utter fuckin bobbins and we should be giving them a good going over.

Come Sunday night he’ll be relating it to one of these ‘points’ and saying ‘I told you’.

Like when he tipped Villa to beat Man City a couple of weeks ago because we lost the week before, then said Man City won because they also lost the week before.

It could be a draw too - I mean a very tiny chance it could get postponed too.

It's a tough won

I’m thinking West Ham might just award us the points as compensation for those kits they won. It’s a theory apparently.
It’s not the worst one I have seen on here.
Well actually I heard a story the other week from Gary Neville who said they lost to Southampton once because of the kit Man Utd wore.
That has to be the worst excuse like ever.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 08, 2023, 10:16:12 PM
I had a shit once when we lost. Probably means something.

Come to think of it, I may also have had one when we won.

I wonder what that means.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 08, 2023, 10:27:18 PM
I had a shit once when we lost. Probably means something.

Come to think of it, I may also have had one when we won.

I wonder what that means.

Ya need to get ya shit togetha is what it means.

Shit smarter not longer. And avoid the roids. They'll hurt you in the end.

As for the FV lament configuration, they need to radically re-haul their algorithm.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 08, 2023, 10:28:00 PM
I have a West Ham fan ex-colleague who has been sending me LinkedIn messages over the last couple of years to rub in how much better than us they were. I sent him a message this week to say I hadn't heard from him this season, and to ask if everything was OK. I forgot we were playing them next. 

My apologies to everyone for what is now inevitable.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 08, 2023, 10:31:49 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

I think it means on 5 occasions they scored more goals than us and since October they haven’t been very good. 
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Zouch Villa on March 08, 2023, 10:59:38 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 08, 2023, 11:11:49 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.

Footy’s H&Vs version of Clinton Baptiste
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 08, 2023, 11:28:20 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.

The drugs and hookers will ensure you don't need a pension. Go for it.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 10:18:06 AM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.
If you're looking to enter that sort of life my prayers are with you

Several premier league footballers, celebrities and politicians make either one of these lifetsyle choices but there's never any need for debauchery or illegal activity. It's just plain immoral.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Monty on March 09, 2023, 10:46:02 AM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.
If you're looking to enter that sort of life my prayers are with you

Several premier league footballers, celebrities and politicians make either one of these lifetsyle choices but there's never any need for debauchery or illegal activity. It's just plain immoral.

'Debauchery'!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on March 09, 2023, 10:51:54 AM
What an odd little man you are
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 09, 2023, 10:56:18 AM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.

let me answer that for you , but where shall we meet ??
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Border villan on March 09, 2023, 11:10:22 AM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.
If you're looking to enter that sort of life my prayers are with you

Several premier league footballers, celebrities and politicians make either one of these lifetsyle choices but there's never any need for debauchery or illegal activity. It's just plain immoral.

'Debauchery'!

Did he play for Small Heath?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 09, 2023, 11:27:51 AM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.
If you're looking to enter that sort of life my prayers are with you

Several premier league footballers, celebrities and politicians make either one of these lifetsyle choices but there's never any need for debauchery or illegal activity. It's just plain immoral.

'Debauchery'!

Che Guevara and debauchery to a disco beat
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 11:46:27 AM
Back on track to West Ham Villa and West Ham's starting lineup and performance tonight, will have some degree of foreshadowing what happens on Sunday. That theory, I believe we can all agree on.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: olaftab on March 09, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
No, I don't agree with that.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: oldtimernow on March 09, 2023, 12:16:07 PM
We've won 1 of the last 13 against them, and 0 of the last 9. The only win was under Sherwood.

4-1 us.

ah but no Fabianski...
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 09, 2023, 12:45:27 PM
Just sullied myself to take a gander at WHAM!'s Pravda to see if all their big-hitters are in Cyprus and judging by the pictures, yes, they are (Rice, Paqueta, Bowen, Ings, Soucek etc.).
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Zouch Villa on March 09, 2023, 12:45:36 PM
Ollie Watkins has played West Ham 5 times and lost 5 times.
So we can see if thats a sign or coincidence come sunday.

West Ham 'ave won only two Premier League games since October so this could mean something as well.

Footy, do you do palm readings too?  Just want to know whether I should carry on paying in to my pension, or whether I can stop and blow it on drugs and hookers instead.
If you're looking to enter that sort of life my prayers are with you

Several premier league footballers, celebrities and politicians make either one of these lifetsyle choices but there's never any need for debauchery or illegal activity. It's just plain immoral.

Thank you for your prayers footy, but I fear it may be too late for me and my dubious morals. 
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 09, 2023, 12:51:20 PM
Well you are a self-professed "sententious throbber" who puts the ouch in Zouch.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Zouch Villa on March 09, 2023, 12:53:38 PM
Well you are a self-professed "sententious throbber" who puts the ouch in Zouch.

Have we met?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: CT Villan on March 09, 2023, 02:30:12 PM
I thought we would win comfortably but over the last few days I've developed an alarming fear of the sheltering effect of the Chiltern Hills and North Downs and their influence on the prevailing SW wind at the stadium. I am sure we all agree that this will have a profound effect on our players and likely lose us the game.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 09, 2023, 02:46:10 PM
Well you are a self-professed "sententious throbber" who puts the ouch in Zouch.

I recall that exchange, it was on my birthday a couple of years ago. It sticks in my mind as I had to look up what sententious means.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 09, 2023, 03:01:18 PM
Well you are a self-professed "sententious throbber" who puts the ouch in Zouch.

The author J.P. Donleavy once wrote "I reprobate concupiscence, whether fortuitous or contrived".

We'll have no sententious throbbing here, or indeed cupping of splenders as suggested by another depraved poster back in the day.

Back to J.P. who wrote "we must vouchsafe the human dignity".
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 09, 2023, 03:04:05 PM
Fuck me is this turning into Pseuds Corner.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 09, 2023, 03:09:47 PM

We'll have no sententious throbbing here, or indeed cupping of splenders as suggested by another depraved poster back in the day.


"Slenders". You're doing Peen wrong!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Monty on March 09, 2023, 03:39:30 PM
Wasn't that all my fault?

Just, if there's to be any pseuding around here I'd quite like the blame credit.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 09, 2023, 03:40:26 PM
I thought we would win comfortably but over the last few days I've developed an alarming fear of the sheltering effect of the Chiltern Hills and North Downs and their influence on the prevailing SW wind at the stadium. I am sure we all agree that this will have a profound effect on our players and likely lose us the game.

Bad news for Villa this, the biggest test yet for Emery. Could be time to reprise the Tottenham plan from earlier in the season, but there was merely a light breeze that day. If it rains we’re fucked.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 09, 2023, 04:00:30 PM
I thought we would win comfortably but over the last few days I've developed an alarming fear of the sheltering effect of the Chiltern Hills and North Downs and their influence on the prevailing SW wind at the stadium. I am sure we all agree that this will have a profound effect on our players and likely lose us the game.

Bad news for Villa this, the biggest test yet for Emery. Could be time to reprise the Tottenham plan from earlier in the season, but there was merely a light breeze that day. If it rains we’re fucked.

Yes, rain panics our less intelligent players into thinking they've angered the gods in some way. Emery is looking to bring in Benedictine monk Benito Feijóo from the 18th Century FC to spread the expansion of scientific knowledge, but this will only benefit the Spannish speaking players. The writing is on the wall for Matty Cash it seems.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 09, 2023, 04:09:25 PM
I thought we would win comfortably but over the last few days I've developed an alarming fear of the sheltering effect of the Chiltern Hills and North Downs and their influence on the prevailing SW wind at the stadium. I am sure we all agree that this will have a profound effect on our players and likely lose us the game.

Bad news for Villa this, the biggest test yet for Emery. Could be time to reprise the Tottenham plan from earlier in the season, but there was merely a light breeze that day. If it rains we’re fucked.

Yes, rain panics our less intelligent players into thinking they've angered the gods in some way. Emery is looking to bring in Benedictine monk Benito Feijóo from the 18th Century FC to spread the expansion of scientific knowledge, but this will only benefit the Spannish speaking players. The writing is on the wall for Matty Cash it seems.

I’m amazed that Cash’s rather basic Polish has seemingly won the day over Young’s more practised Italian. I put this down to Emery’s distaste for the Gomorrah TV show, a ridiculous way to pick a football team.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 09, 2023, 04:38:41 PM
I thought we would win comfortably but over the last few days I've developed an alarming fear of the sheltering effect of the Chiltern Hills and North Downs and their influence on the prevailing SW wind at the stadium. I am sure we all agree that this will have a profound effect on our players and likely lose us the game.

Bad news for Villa this, the biggest test yet for Emery. Could be time to reprise the Tottenham plan from earlier in the season, but there was merely a light breeze that day. If it rains we’re fucked.

Yes, rain panics our less intelligent players into thinking they've angered the gods in some way. Emery is looking to bring in Benedictine monk Benito Feijóo from the 18th Century FC to spread the expansion of scientific knowledge, but this will only benefit the Spannish speaking players. The writing is on the wall for Matty Cash it seems.

I’m amazed that Cash’s rather basic Polish has seemingly won the day over Young’s more practised Italian. I put this down to Emery’s distaste for the Gomorrah TV show, a ridiculous way to pick a football team.

His heart, like everyone else's, was melted by the enthusiasm of the young boy on the Polish advert on seeing his hero 'Metty Cesh'. Young, despite a string of impressive displays, never stood a chance.

Plus it seems Emery took a dim view of Ash making transfer contract expert Gabby look like a pleb all those years ago with that 'tap the wrong shoulder' trick.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 09, 2023, 04:41:22 PM
I've just been fisting Norman Lamont.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Monty on March 09, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
I've just been fisting Norman Lamont.

I just think this is really brave of you.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 05:35:30 PM
Scouting West Ham match I see Angelo Ogbonna, Ben Johnson, Tomas Soucek, Lucas Paqueta, Emerson Palmieri, Jarrod Bowen and Danny Ings are all not starting which means they are likely to start on Sunday
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 05:38:32 PM
Also Rice starts and could become unavailable for Sunday if he was to be injured tonight.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 09, 2023, 05:44:29 PM
Also Rice starts and could become unavailable for Sunday if he was to be injured tonight.

That's generally how football works.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 06:22:21 PM
Also Rice starts and could become unavailable for Sunday if he was to be injured tonight.

That's generally how football works.
Well, you've been exposed, and my point has been amply demonstrated. Earlier, you called my writings "madcap theories," but now that it supports your beliefs, it's become agreeable!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 09, 2023, 06:57:29 PM
It’s not really a belief. More that fact that a player suffering an injury missing the next match is so eye-bleeding obvious it hardly needed saying.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 09, 2023, 07:05:11 PM
Also Rice starts and could become unavailable for Sunday if he was to be injured tonight.

That's generally how football works.
Well, you've been exposed, and my point has been amply demonstrated. Earlier, you called my writings "madcap theories," but now that it supports your beliefs, it's become agreeable!

You veer between stating the blindingly obvious and the laughably ridiculous, all in the most condescending way imaginable.

I don’t give a fuck if people think I’m piling on, because it’s not the lack of insight and understanding that bothers me, it’s the rampant narcissism and the fact that you have somehow convinced yourself that people only disagree with you because you’re smarter than everybody else.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Zouch Villa on March 09, 2023, 07:46:31 PM
Also Rice starts and could become unavailable for Sunday if he was to be injured tonight.

That's generally how football works.
Well, you've been exposed, and my point has been amply demonstrated. Earlier, you called my writings "madcap theories," but now that it supports your beliefs, it's become agreeable!

You veer between stating the blindingly obvious and the laughably ridiculous, all in the most condescending way imaginable.

I don’t give a fuck if people think I’m piling on, because it’s not the lack of insight and understanding that bothers me, it’s the rampant narcissism and the fact that you have somehow convinced yourself that people only disagree with you because you’re smarter than everybody else.

I think this invaluable insight is wasted on us Footy.  Have you considered doing TikTok or twatter?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 09, 2023, 07:48:45 PM
Also Rice starts and could become unavailable for Sunday if he was to be injured tonight.

That's generally how football works.
Well, you've been exposed, and my point has been amply demonstrated. Earlier, you called my writings "madcap theories," but now that it supports your beliefs, it's become agreeable!

You veer between stating the blindingly obvious and the laughably ridiculous, all in the most condescending way imaginable.

I don’t give a fuck if people think I’m piling on, because it’s not the lack of insight and understanding that bothers me, it’s the rampant narcissism and the fact that you have somehow convinced yourself that people only disagree with you because you’re smarter than everybody else.

I think this invaluable insight is wasted on us Footy.  Have you considered doing TikTok or twatter?

It looks like he’s been doing acid.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 09, 2023, 08:12:32 PM
Footy is good entertainment though.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 09, 2023, 08:29:06 PM
I disagree. He doesn’t even get any sympathy from me because he keeps going on and on and on relentlessly with this utter shit and I get the impression that his attitude to it is something like ‘any attention is good attention’. It’s not good for him or for anyone around him and I think he needs help. Badly.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 09, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Footy is good entertainment though.
Are you laughing with or at?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 09, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Footy is good entertainment though.

So is doing acid.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 09, 2023, 08:36:18 PM
I do wonder if Footy is a decent angler in his spare time.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 09, 2023, 08:36:49 PM
Footy is good entertainment though.
Are you laughing with or at?

I don't take him seriously⁷so I laugh at.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on March 09, 2023, 08:40:58 PM
I've blocked him so I only see his nonsense when you guys quote him, so please stop doing that.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: villadelph on March 09, 2023, 09:01:04 PM
I've blocked him so I only see his nonsense when you guys quote him, so please stop doing that.

Please explain the process, I can't figure out how to do it.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 09, 2023, 09:05:53 PM
I've blocked Telford, the M54, that ice rink, the Wrekin and the Ironbridge. Please don't quote them.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: OCD on March 09, 2023, 09:14:50 PM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 09, 2023, 09:16:31 PM
I've blocked him so I only see his nonsense when you guys quote him, so please stop doing that.

Same here a couple of weeks ago but like you say….

It does help but doesn’t solve.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 09, 2023, 09:48:10 PM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 09, 2023, 09:50:48 PM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.

I think he means he’s due another childish flounce.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 09, 2023, 09:59:48 PM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.

I think he means he’s due another childish flounce.

Ah yes.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 09, 2023, 10:09:12 PM
Judging from the highlights of today's game, Antonio is back in the groove and may have recovered his mojo.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 10:34:20 PM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.

I think he means he’s due another childish flounce.

Ah yes.
Well that's your interpretation though as stated previously its when I'm overwhelmed I take myself away. But as I understand it its all down to interpretation for people views and opinions be it on what they read.
We're all here for the football. Comments are gonna come and go.

There is no big issue to be made just a disappointing realisation that not every one is going to enjoy the same things the same way and I'll be mindful of that. And even though it's somewhat harsh to have such scathing to read things its going to happen as thats just people making own judgements and feelings known.

I actually believe that everyone here are very sound, friendly, and valuable in their observations and of reasonable humour, but in a variety of ways.
I'm not going to take people blocking me as anything other than they interpret what I write as not suited and aligned with what they are looking for in discussion on H and V.
I appreciate the honesty in some ways!

Up the Villa

Oh and the request of lets be back to topic now!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Bad English on March 09, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Back on topic? On H&V? Hahaha!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: villadelph on March 09, 2023, 10:42:31 PM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.

I think he means he’s due another childish flounce.

Ah yes.
Well that's your interpretation though as stated previously its when I'm overwhelmed I take myself away. But as I understand it its all down to interpretation for people views and opinions be it on what they read.
We're all here for the football. Comments are gonna come and go.

There is no big issue to be made just a disappointing realisation that not every one is going to enjoy the same things the same way and I'll be mindful of that. And even though it's somewhat harsh to have such scathing to read things its going to happen as thats just people making own judgements and feelings known.

I actually believe that everyone here are very sound, friendly, and valuable in their observations and of reasonable humour, but in a variety of ways.
I'm not going to take people blocking me as anything other than they interpret what I write as not suited and aligned with what they are looking for in discussion on H and V.
I appreciate the honesty in some ways!

Up the Villa

Oh and the request of lets be back to topic now!

You blatantly lie about people within the club and speak from a matter of fact. You said Danny Ings and Morgan Sanson weren’t suited to Unai’s long study sessions, you said he prefers Spanish speaking players and is a man of superstition.

You just blatantly lie, that’s the problem.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 09, 2023, 11:11:28 PM
Maybe everyone should let it simmer for the night, ganging up and all that
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on March 09, 2023, 11:22:21 PM
He's not flinty though is he
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Woody17 on March 10, 2023, 02:08:17 AM
Could someone send me a link to the pre match thread please?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 10, 2023, 09:45:22 AM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.

I think he means he’s due another childish flounce.

Ah yes.
Well that's your interpretation though as stated previously its when I'm overwhelmed I take myself away. But as I understand it its all down to interpretation for people views and opinions be it on what they read.
We're all here for the football. Comments are gonna come and go.

There is no big issue to be made just a disappointing realisation that not every one is going to enjoy the same things the same way and I'll be mindful of that. And even though it's somewhat harsh to have such scathing to read things its going to happen as thats just people making own judgements and feelings known.

I actually believe that everyone here are very sound, friendly, and valuable in their observations and of reasonable humour, but in a variety of ways.
I'm not going to take people blocking me as anything other than they interpret what I write as not suited and aligned with what they are looking for in discussion on H and V.
I appreciate the honesty in some ways!

Up the Villa

Oh and the request of lets be back to topic now!

You blatantly lie about people within the club and speak from a matter of fact. You said Danny Ings and Morgan Sanson weren’t suited to Unai’s long study sessions, you said he prefers Spanish speaking players and is a man of superstition.

You just blatantly lie, that’s the problem.
Listen, the foundations of my arguments are theories, educated guesses, and things that make sense to me. Working hypothesis is also used in some cases. I respectfully request that we move on and concentrate on the pre-match thread! Now that I've helpfully explained things, my understanding is that you've interpreted my comments as if they were simple facts.
I and now woody17 have requested discussion to West Ham v Villa football topic.

All the best and no intentions to upset you VD.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Isn't it about time he took a break away from the site for a while anyway?

When he/she/them breaks the site rules yes.

I think he means he’s due another childish flounce.

Ah yes.
Well that's your interpretation though as stated previously its when I'm overwhelmed I take myself away. But as I understand it its all down to interpretation for people views and opinions be it on what they read.
We're all here for the football. Comments are gonna come and go.

There is no big issue to be made just a disappointing realisation that not every one is going to enjoy the same things the same way and I'll be mindful of that. And even though it's somewhat harsh to have such scathing to read things its going to happen as thats just people making own judgements and feelings known.

I actually believe that everyone here are very sound, friendly, and valuable in their observations and of reasonable humour, but in a variety of ways.
I'm not going to take people blocking me as anything other than they interpret what I write as not suited and aligned with what they are looking for in discussion on H and V.
I appreciate the honesty in some ways!

Up the Villa

Oh and the request of lets be back to topic now!

You blatantly lie about people within the club and speak from a matter of fact. You said Danny Ings and Morgan Sanson weren’t suited to Unai’s long study sessions, you said he prefers Spanish speaking players and is a man of superstition.

You just blatantly lie, that’s the problem.
Listen, the foundations of my arguments are theories, educated guesses, and things that make sense to me. Working hypothesis is also used in some cases. I respectfully request that we move on and concentrate on the pre-match thread! Now that I've helpfully explained things, my understanding is that you've interpreted my comments as if they were simple facts.
I and now woody17 have requested discussion to West Ham v Villa football topic.

All the best and no intentions to upset you VD.


Fair enough with your tone, but given folk have said they don't appreciate you doing it do you think you could take that forward regarding your future posts, rather than just telling us all to move on only for you to repeat the nonesense in a couple of days?

You know, moderate your own behaviour a little?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 10, 2023, 10:20:56 AM
Ok Lee B noted.
Pull me up  and I'll take a step back.
I have a lot of ideas in my head, and I need to be aware that I may be flooding h and v at times when I should take a little more time.
I'm excited to share my theories, and I'm disappointed that I haven't realised how annoying I am to some people, and how much of it is my fault.
Ok, I'll do better when you and a few others pull me up because I respect your words and views and know you're coming from a good place.

Thank you, and let's get back to what we are here for and thats a place for Villa related debate and discussion

VTD!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Neil Hawkes on March 10, 2023, 10:46:52 AM
QUOTE - I'm excited to share my theories, and I'm disappointed that I haven't realised how annoying I am to some people, and how much of it is my fault.

Fair enough Footy, I now get where you're coming from and will do my best not to react negatively in future.

All the best.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 10:52:00 AM
Ok Lee B noted.
Pull me up  and I'll take a step back.
I have a lot of ideas in my head, and I need to be aware that I may be flooding h and v at times when I should take a little more time.
I'm excited to share my theories, and I'm disappointed that I haven't realised how annoying I am to some people, and how much of it is my fault.
Ok, I'll do better when you and a few others pull me up because I respect your words and views and know you're coming from a good place.

Thank you, and let's get back to what we are here for and thats a place for Villa related debate and discussion

VTD!

Follow the wise words of Celine Dion:

Footy think twice for the sake of our love, for the memory
For the fire and the faith and Unai Emery
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 10, 2023, 10:53:25 AM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 10:55:51 AM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

No, and the embarrassment is multiplied by actually blowing bubbles around the pitch like it's a toddler's birthday party
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clampy on March 10, 2023, 11:22:28 AM
And they can't even say bubbles properly, they say 'Babbles'.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 10, 2023, 11:47:01 AM
I'm still mad at Danny Ings that he didn't write us Villa fans a long love-letter of goodbye on social media. He didn't give a shit, did he? Fucking bastard. Hope he pulls his hammy on Sunday, misses most of the rest of the season and WHAM! still have to stump-up the remaining £3m (they're not gonna go down, let's be honest).
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clampy on March 10, 2023, 11:52:12 AM
I'm still mad at Danny Ings that he didn't write us Villa fans a long love-letter of goodbye on social media. He didn't give a shit, did he? Fucking bastard. Hope he pulls his hammy on Sunday, misses most of the rest of the season and WHAM! still have to stump-up the remaining £3m (they're not gonna go down, let's be honest).

He should have gone last christmas.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 10, 2023, 11:52:12 AM
I hate absolutely everything about that club. The owners, the ground, the players, the manager, the fans. Shit, all of it.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Dr Butler on March 10, 2023, 11:55:50 AM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

No, and the embarrassment is multiplied by actually blowing bubbles around the pitch like it's a toddler's birthday party

toddler's birthday party...made me smile

I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to use that next time the kit stealing wankers are watching west ham in the pub :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Baldy on March 10, 2023, 11:56:55 AM
I hate absolutely everything about that club. The owners, the ground, the players, the manager, the fans. Shit, all of it.

Great colours though.

0-2 to the Villa.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on March 10, 2023, 11:57:22 AM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: big 1st serve on March 10, 2023, 12:01:24 PM
....I think the tune is Z Cars
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 10, 2023, 12:02:37 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on March 10, 2023, 12:03:17 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.

Of course. Thanks gents.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 12:05:36 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.

It's not only shite, it also carries the whiff of marching season and bowler hats.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 10, 2023, 12:07:49 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.

It's not only shite, it also carries the whiff of marching season and bowler hats.

Everton are traditionally the Catholic club on Merseyside.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 12:17:23 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.

It's not only shite, it also carries the whiff of marching season and bowler hats.

Everton are traditionally the Catholic club on Merseyside.

I didn't know that Dave, and to be fair I wasn't suggesting it was a knowing wink from the club when they play it, just that it puts me in mind of it.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 10, 2023, 12:20:27 PM
I'm still mad at Danny Ings that he didn't write us Villa fans a long love-letter of goodbye

Have you seen the price of stamps?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 10, 2023, 12:47:28 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.

It's not only shite, it also carries the whiff of marching season and bowler hats.

Everton are traditionally the Catholic club on Merseyside.
I had always assumed it was Liverpool because of their strong Irish following.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 10, 2023, 01:09:04 PM
Methinks they doth protestant too much.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 10, 2023, 01:18:47 PM
Down wit dat sort of ting.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
Anyway I had a quick Google and it's apparently a myth as both clubs were formed from the same methodist church, and Everton's supposed Catholicism may have just come from the fact they had a load of Irish players in the 50's.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 10, 2023, 01:52:53 PM
And they can't even say bubbles properly, they say 'Babbles'.

Frankly, they can ‘stick their fucking bubbles up their arse’

Or as sang by other London clubs ‘stick yer facking babbles ap yer arse’.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 10, 2023, 02:02:48 PM
Our commander leads our troops into battle in harsh winter-conditions:

(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1400x1400/bfa6afd0-bf29-11ed-b837-eff45b8d8cf0.jpg)
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 10, 2023, 02:04:13 PM
He looks that cold I bet even he can't remember Spanish.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: sendô WHU on March 10, 2023, 02:27:19 PM
Greetings Villans. Another claret and blue derby is upon us. Or is it now the Danny Ings Derby? Either way there's fewer of them now that those pretenders Burnley are out of the mix. I'd have posted earlier in the week but I've been mad busy at work. Gotta get all the money in I can what with this cost of living crisis malarky. It's over £7 a pint in some pubs in London now. That's almost as bad as the £35m we reportedly paid for Gianluca Scamacca.

West Ham are on the back of some sizzling hot form. Since winning at Villa Park back in August in what might well have been one of the most boring games of football I have ever seen, we've only won 5 more times - all at home. A poor Wolves team, a terrible Bournemouth team, an Everton team in the dying days of the Lampard comedy era, and a Forest team absolutely lacking quality. The only half decent team we've beaten is Fulham, way back in October, in a game where we were lucky both to get the goals we got (from memory) and that we were up against possibly the only team consistently more generous to us with the points than Aston Villa.

Scoring goals has been the major issue generally, although we've not been great at the back, with certain players falling off a cliff ability wise (Antonio, Cresswell), others being out of form for long periods (Bowen, Soucek, Coufal), unfortunate injuries (Scamacca, Zouma, Cornet, Aguerd) and numerous new signings failing to adapt/fit in. We've also struggled to get a regular settled back 4 through injuries and lack of form, plus Craig Dawson somehow getting homesick for the west midlands(!)

Add into all that you have David "one tactic" Moyes and his complete lack of attacking ethos and dour stubborn inability to make a game changing substitution, or any sub in general before the 70th minute.

Nonetheless he remains inexplicably in his position, mainly I think because Sullivan cannot find anyone better who is willing to work with him, or else because he's too tight to pay the compo to bin him off. So no Unai Emery style new manager bounce for us. Our saving grace will most likely be that there is somehow at least 3 teams shitter than us at present, and that Danny Ings was allowed to bring his claret and blue shirt down the M40 to help bang in the goals that we otherwise could not bang in.

Anyway, you lot look good now. Not that I've watched much of you. Seeing other teams playing decent football is depressing. Regardless, the Villa fan in my office thinks Ings is nailed on to score. He might well be right, but it'll require West Ham moving up the pitch as a team, with purpose, and stringing together more than three passes that aren't sideways or backwards for him to have the opportunity.

My biggest hope is that the Villa players get so bored playing against our negative tactics they lose concentration and allow us to nick a goal on the break.

West Ham 1-0 win. Ings to score. Maybe.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 10, 2023, 02:34:15 PM
Which one of your faces is that coming out of?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Dr Butler on March 10, 2023, 02:55:43 PM
Anyway I had a quick Google and it's apparently a myth as both clubs were formed from the same methodist church, and Everton's supposed Catholicism may have just come from the fact they had a load of Irish players in the 50's.

my brother in laws Dad played for Everton in the 50's and he was from Ireland...

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 10, 2023, 03:10:09 PM
And they can't even say bubbles properly, they say 'Babbles'.

They can't even blow the babbles either, they have a machine to do it.  They should be given a bowl of water, a bottle of fairy liquid and an old wire coat hanger and live up to the song the wankers.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 10, 2023, 03:11:48 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not embarrassing but Everton's Dixon of Dock Green and Grand Old Team shite is a right old dirge.

I agree but it’s Z Cars.

It's Z Cars but it's Johnny Todd to give it it's correct name I believe.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 10, 2023, 03:30:46 PM
Judging from the highlights of today's game, Antonio is back in the groove and may have recovered his mojo.
Stat. And there for Factual.
Antonio in 8 games facing Villa never lost. However, he has only scored once.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 10, 2023, 03:42:34 PM
Judging from the highlights of today's game, Antonio is back in the groove and may have recovered his mojo.
Stat. And there for Factual.
Antonio in 8 games facing Villa never lost. However, he has only scored once.

Good stat.

He's gonna score, isn't he? As sure as eggs is eggs. Nailed on.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: OCD on March 10, 2023, 05:04:22 PM
According to their fans, they're looking fatigued and their vulnerable on corners. Things will be looking good if we're at least level at half-time.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 10, 2023, 05:12:15 PM
Cometh the hour, cometh the sendo!

To be fair, that miserable run of form he describes is pretty awful, and no doubt what we'd be going through if Gerrard was still here. Their WaferConference wins has kept them going, I guess.

I'd be disappointed if we don't get at least a point from this.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Smirker on March 10, 2023, 05:22:24 PM
We're going to FTF.

Looking forward to it and another step toward Europe.

I'm not saying we'll make Europe but we'll win here.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 05:25:08 PM
About time we won in their misapropriated excuse for a football stadium, 2-0 us.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 10, 2023, 05:50:12 PM
Judging from the highlights of today's game, Antonio is back in the groove and may have recovered his mojo.
Stat. And there for Factual.
Antonio in 8 games facing Villa never lost. However, he has only scored once.

Good stat.

He's gonna score, isn't he? As sure as eggs is eggs. Nailed on.
The talk is Ings is going to be appearing in the line up having scored in last home game and with Antonio a slight injury doubt to start.
Suppose it could be Ings with the consolation goal in Villa victory!
I wonder if he would celebrate if he did score

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2023, 06:02:34 PM
Our commander leads our troops into battle in harsh winter-conditions:

(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1400x1400/bfa6afd0-bf29-11ed-b837-eff45b8d8cf0.jpg)

He looks fooking angry, like cmon then you west ham fackers, lets facking go like.

Dont mess with Unai
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 10, 2023, 06:14:11 PM
I hear these sounds as I imagine him running in that pic and then watching training

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAdnPiC4cGw
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 10, 2023, 06:20:45 PM
Who comes in for Kamara then if DroptheDeadDoncker is hand-crocked tomorrow? My Morgan, brave as Samson, wherefore art thou?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 10, 2023, 06:35:05 PM
Who comes in for Kamara then if DroptheDeadDoncker is hand-crocked tomorrow? My Morgan, brave as Samson, wherefore art thou?

One of the two keepers from the bench I imagine.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Richard E on March 10, 2023, 06:51:32 PM
The celeb guest on the BBC prediction page this week is a guitarist from the Stereophonics, who is quoted as saying ‘I’m a blues fan but I like to see Villa doing well for the city.’ There is NO WAY those are the words of a genuine Small Heath supporter.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 10, 2023, 06:57:54 PM
Is he a true Brummie? I thought they were all Welsh.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Smirker on March 10, 2023, 07:26:33 PM
The celeb guest on the BBC prediction page this week is a guitarist from the Stereophonics, who is quoted as saying ‘I’m a blues fan but I like to see Villa doing well for the city.’ There is NO WAY those are the words of a genuine Small Heath supporter.

Quote
Zindani still lives in Birmingham, while other members of Stereophonics have all moved to London. Not much is known of his personal life but in Stereophonics interviews he has mentioned his children. He has also appeared on Soccer AM with fellow Stereophonics member Kelly Jones.

Adam is a Birmingham City F.C fan. Adam attended St Bernard's Roman Catholic Primary School in Moseley before moving to Kings Heath and entering Baverstock School, Druids Heath, Birmingham. He was a keen snooker player, going to his local club in Kings Heath. He didn't start to play the guitar until after his 16th birthday.

Seems a decent guy.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2023, 07:55:43 PM
The celeb guest on the BBC prediction page this week is a guitarist from the Stereophonics, who is quoted as saying ‘I’m a blues fan but I like to see Villa doing well for the city.’ There is NO WAY those are the words of a genuine Small Heath supporter.

Quote
Zindani still lives in Birmingham, while other members of Stereophonics have all moved to London. Not much is known of his personal life but in Stereophonics interviews he has mentioned his children. He has also appeared on Soccer AM with fellow Stereophonics member Kelly Jones.

Adam is a Birmingham City F.C fan. Adam attended St Bernard's Roman Catholic Primary School in Moseley before moving to Kings Heath and entering Baverstock School, Druids Heath, Birmingham. He was a keen snooker player, going to his local club in Kings Heath. He didn't start to play the guitar until after his 16th birthday.

Seems a decent guy.

Apart from the music
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 10, 2023, 08:24:51 PM
Carlos back in squad, Dendoncker possibly too if over his paper cut. I really don't want to see Chambers starting a PL game for us in midfield up against likes of Declan Rice.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 10, 2023, 08:41:02 PM
Bailey and Buendia will be alongside Ollie. Behind them Doug, SJM, JJ.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Nev on March 10, 2023, 09:00:50 PM
I loved Stereophonics when they did shit like "The Bartender The Thief" but they went straight down the dumper afterwards.

This dude seems OK, but he does help me hate them even more. Good lad.

Mr Writer? Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 10, 2023, 09:32:11 PM
Bailey and Buendia will be alongside Ollie. Behind them Doug, SJM, JJ.

Bailey best left on the bench, or even the bus.

Think WHU would physically bully those three in midfield. Going to need one of Chambers or the Donk in there

Need a lot more from Ramsey, disappointed with him the last day. Dangerous option on the counter though.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on March 10, 2023, 09:32:50 PM
I loved Stereophonics when they did shit like "The Bartender The Thief" but they went straight down the dumper afterwards.

This dude seems OK, but he does help me hate them even more. Good lad.

Mr Writer? Jesus Christ.

He wasn't in the band fir Mr. Writer.  Blues fan happy to see Villa doing well is extremely fishy though. 
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 10, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not the best, not the worst. If I'm being honest I'm not a massive fan of TBAR either.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ROBBO on March 11, 2023, 12:59:39 AM
JJ seems to have little impact on games these days compared to when he was at his best. Not sure whether it's a young player going through a spell or he's carrying a knock. Have noticed he seems to have lost a yard.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Rory on March 11, 2023, 02:03:06 AM
Moving on, is there a more embarrassing club anthem than West Ham's 'Blowing Bubbles'?

Not the best, not the worst. If I'm being honest I'm not a massive fan of TBAR either.

There are two reasons I hate 'Blowing Bubbles', both related to films: first, the film Green Street; second, the nauseating version in the recent film Bullet Train.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 11, 2023, 09:13:18 AM
Bailey and Buendia will be alongside Ollie. Behind them Doug, SJM, JJ.
So it's case of either Moreno or Digne then?

Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Mings, Moreno/Digne
Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey
Bailey, Watkins, Buendia

Though I'm wondering if at times will be a 4 in midfield and Bailey partnering Watkins up front.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: JD on March 11, 2023, 09:23:39 AM
Won't be that line up, too lightweight against the kit stealing cloggers.

Bailey on the bench, McGinn further forward and either the Donk or Chambers as DM.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 11, 2023, 09:43:11 AM
Won't be that line up, too lightweight against the kit stealing cloggers.

Bailey on the bench, McGinn further forward and either the Donk or Chambers as DM.
Cloggers I feel Villa can deal with. We did just so against Everton. The flair players for West Ham are my primary worry.
I would definitely prefer Součekk to advanced against us than Fornals. Aside from his poor form this season the Czech player is vastly limited in ability and has only an aerial threat which will be planned for.

Fornals has scored in each of the last three games he's played against Villa, my observations based on fact is the true challenge is keeping him or who ever advanced attacking mid in check. He seems to be the one who, when playing against us, discovers space in the middle of the field or in and around the box.

Another problem is Bowen, who poses a threat but isn't in the same shape as when he's played against us in the past but is a quality player and one I hoped we would have signed when he transferred to West Ham.

We've also got to contend with unpredictable but effective Benrahma,
playing in a role similar to Lingaard, who did damage in the past, so keeping the wide players and advanced midfielder in check is essential. We had issues recently with Saka and Dwight McNeill.

There is also the likelihood of Danny Ings starting, which makes for a fascinating tussle for our defenders.

Anticipating it will be a tricky encouter.

 

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2023, 09:46:01 AM
Agree with you about Bowen, Footy. He'd be perfect in our side.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 11, 2023, 09:51:45 AM
All great points, Footy! Top analysis.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2023, 10:24:43 AM
It’ll be the same starting line with Chambers in for Kamara.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Baldy on March 11, 2023, 10:37:41 AM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clampy on March 11, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
I hope we keep to 4 in midfield if we can. We've had two clean sheets on the back of it which would be great if we can keep that going.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 11, 2023, 10:40:40 AM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.
This is a good shout, worked in 2nd half vrs spurs, but didnt function properly against Wolves. However, Unai could try this and push Ramsey more central. Feels a better option than Chambers if Donk still has his fingers hanging off.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 11, 2023, 11:37:24 AM
After losing their last three home league games of 2022, West Ham are unbeaten at home (W2 D1). They've conceded just one goal at home so far this year, while scoring 7.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: paul_e on March 11, 2023, 12:33:01 PM
Won't be that line up, too lightweight against the kit stealing cloggers.

Bailey on the bench, McGinn further forward and either the Donk or Chambers as DM.
Cloggers I feel Villa can deal with. We did just so against Everton. The flair players for West Ham are my primary worry.
I would definitely prefer Součekk to advanced against us than Fornals. Aside from his poor form this season the Czech player is vastly limited in ability and has only an aerial threat which will be planned for.

Fornals has scored in each of the last three games he's played against Villa, my observations based on fact is the true challenge is keeping him or who ever advanced attacking mid in check. He seems to be the one who, when playing against us, discovers space in the middle of the field or in and around the box.

Another problem is Bowen, who poses a threat but isn't in the same shape as when he's played against us in the past but is a quality player and one I hoped we would have signed when he transferred to West Ham.

We've also got to contend with unpredictable but effective Benrahma,
playing in a role similar to Lingaard, who did damage in the past, so keeping the wide players and advanced midfielder in check is essential. We had issues recently with Saka and Dwight McNeill.

There is also the likelihood of Danny Ings starting, which makes for a fascinating tussle for our defenders.

Anticipating it will be a tricky encouter.

I see your point but the reason those players have had an impact against us is because players like antonio, soucek, rice and coufal (in particular) have roughed us up and taken control of the game. Once you're dominating where and how the game is played it becomes easy to find gaps.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 11, 2023, 12:56:24 PM
The doubling up on the right might work and I could also see us doing it on the opposite flank.

Maybe Carlos is fit enough for us to go 3-5-2.....

Sorry.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ventnorVillain on March 11, 2023, 01:13:00 PM
The celeb guest on the BBC prediction page this week is a guitarist from the Stereophonics, who is quoted as saying ‘I’m a blues fan but I like to see Villa doing well for the city.’ There is NO WAY those are the words of a genuine Small Heath supporter.

Quote
Zindani still lives in Birmingham, while other members of Stereophonics have all moved to London. Not much is known of his personal life but in Stereophonics interviews he has mentioned his children. He has also appeared on Soccer AM with fellow Stereophonics member Kelly Jones.

Adam is a Birmingham City F.C fan. Adam attended St Bernard's Roman Catholic Primary School in Moseley before moving to Kings Heath and entering Baverstock School, Druids Heath, Birmingham. He was a keen snooker player, going to his local club in Kings Heath. He didn't start to play the guitar until after his 16th birthday.

Seems a decent guy.

Apart from the music

And supporting Small Heath.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on March 11, 2023, 01:38:23 PM
The doubling up on the right might work and I could also see us doing it on the opposite flank.

Maybe Carlos is fit enough for us to go 3-5-2.....

Sorry.

I think we we saw last week the formation we will go forward with.  Think the only changes will be someone coming in for Kamara and possibly Digne for Moreno.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 11, 2023, 05:09:40 PM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.

Let's hope that experiment won't be tried again
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Ian. on March 11, 2023, 05:11:44 PM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.

Let's hope that experiment won't be tried again

Seconded, let’s please not do this.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2023, 05:22:46 PM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.

Let's hope that experiment won't be tried again

Seconded, let’s please not do this.

Thirded, it didn't work whatsoever against Wolves, with Young being subbed at half time.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 11, 2023, 05:34:51 PM
Fourthed, sorry Baldy but please, no.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 11, 2023, 06:51:20 PM
I asked my Millwall mate if he’d be cheering us on. He said “of course, I’d support ISIS if they were playing Wham.”
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 11, 2023, 07:10:31 PM
We should have beaten these at least four times since we came back up.

But with Kamara out it's a draw at best.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on March 11, 2023, 07:28:55 PM
Without Kamara I think they'll dominate us in midfield, 2-1 them.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 11, 2023, 10:22:30 PM
I’m in Vegas but driving to California tomorrow, we do better when I can’t watch the game so I think we win this comfortably.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 11, 2023, 10:24:59 PM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.

Cash looked completely lost playing RW at home to Wolves, it's o.k doing it for last 10 minutes if we're protecting a lead but don't want to see it from the start again especially as he's coming into form in his usual position.

Would start Dendoncker but if he hasn't trained much at all last two weeks that's unlikely. Chambers has lost all ability to pass a football this season so that's a big problem in away game where we'll need to take the sting out of the game on occasions.

Feels a 1-1 game to me, more so since a few results have gone for us today. We'll be better than we have been v them last few seasons but won't do enough to win and will concede the usual deflection.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 11, 2023, 10:27:27 PM
I’m in Vegas but driving to California tomorrow, we do better when I can’t watch the game so I think we win this comfortably.

Don't forget to stop off in Baker, California to see the World's Tallest Thermometer.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 11, 2023, 10:31:01 PM
I’m in Vegas but driving to California tomorrow, we do better when I can’t watch the game so I think we win this comfortably.

Don't forget to stop off in Baker, California to see the World's Tallest Thermometer.

Nothing that glamorous, heading to Fresno. Most of my US customers are between there and Bakersfield in the Central Valley. Snow has closed Yosemite so can’t even go the pretty route, going through Death Valley instead.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 12, 2023, 06:53:27 AM
Hopefully we can do what france did yesterday. Rock up in London, get a cracking result and then piss off.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Clampy on March 12, 2023, 08:15:36 AM
To compensate for Kamara, Unai might play Young at right back and put Cash in front of him.

Extra bite in midfield and extra cover down the left flank where Benrama was on fire a few days ago.

Just a thought.

Let's hope that experiment won't be tried again

Seconded, let’s please not do this.

Would it maybe work on the opposite side? Moreno in front of Digne?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 12, 2023, 09:19:18 AM
Without Kamara I think they'll dominate us in midfield, 2-1 them.

That's my worry. Fancied us to win this match before he got injured.

Will go for a draw.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 12, 2023, 09:36:59 AM
You can get 5/2 on us or what I've gone for is villa to win draw no bet at 6/4
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 12, 2023, 09:38:42 AM
A win will set us up very nicely for a crack at the European places.

2-0 to them.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on March 12, 2023, 10:12:28 AM
Without Kamara I think they'll dominate us in midfield, 2-1 them.

They normally do and as you say you’d expect that to continue without Kamara. Hopefully Unai will have a master plan.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 12, 2023, 10:14:42 AM
Perhaps we'll go 4-5-1.

Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
Young McGinn Dendonker Luiz Ramsey
Watkins
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Baldy on March 12, 2023, 11:19:52 AM
Our starting X1 in our last away game (a fantastic 0-2 win at Fortress Goodison) was:

Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne
McGinn, Luiz, Kamara, Ramsey
Bailey, Watkins

My biggest 2 questions:
1) Is Dedoncker fit to replace Kamara?
2) Do we start Bailey again?

In Unai we trust.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 12, 2023, 11:22:37 AM
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Moreno
McGinn Luiz Chambers Ramsey
Watkins Buendia

Reckon it'll be that.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 12, 2023, 11:33:47 AM
Without Kamara I think they'll dominate us in midfield, 2-1 them.

That's my worry. Fancied us to win this match before he got injured.

Will go for a draw.
View and my understanding of Premier League football.
I personally don't consider the physical issue as much of a factor outside of set plays and even then it's bordering on neglible as we are discussing high end footballers in level of player ability.
So to how I understand football at this level I really don't think the physical issue matters all that much. There are individual struggles, and perhaps Bailey is an instance where people's concerns about psychicality are legitimate in many games.

Request, consider and debate
I'd want to ask for more to demonstrate a better understanding of the level of football we're talking about. These are professional athletes from the Premier League. People seem to be concerned about their own experiences or ideas of size and strength. Look from the elite level perspective. This isn't youth or low level football.
With all due respect, the assertion made about this actual object strikes me as being very British or old school. Although Moyes and Emery employ distinct tactical approaches and philosophies.

Spannish Influence
Our manager is from Spain. The best footballing sides in Guardiola, Arteta and De Zebri are Spannish. That's my opinion.  Emery Villa will also be one of the most attractive teams on the ball and in the league in time.
The wonderful football success of Spain's national team and individual players never wanted to distinguish themselves by being the most aggressive, but yes competitive,  they were in control with the football.

Not as simple as physicality
Being bullied in the middle of the park is significantly less sophisticated theory and it's more complex. I understand if that's how people want to view the game, but given how the Premier League players' skills and playing styles have developed, I find that to be not only simplistic but also wildly not the case due to fine details at this level.
When it comes to dominating, are you concerned about physical dominance and a hold over our midfilders, as some others have mentioned?
Who has the ball is high key factor yet hardly brought uo in discussion here why so???

Surmise:
Are the people who view this as merely a physical sport the same people aghast at playing it out from the back. I suspect so. It makes sense.

Suggestion:
Might I suggest that Villa will strive to possess the ball for a long time? If so, Villa could have the upper hand due to that.

Fact:
West Ham currently ranks 15th in the league in terms of average home possession (43%).
They come in at number 18 for possession overall.

Villa have 48% possession away from home
It's Emery philosophy to retain the ball maybe we could include the focus here as much as anywhere in regards this dominating!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 12, 2023, 11:35:14 AM
I don’t think that Kamara is that physical anyway, his game is more about retaining possession and using the ball well. He’s been bullied a few times lately.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 12, 2023, 11:37:48 AM
I don’t think that Kamara is that physical anyway, his game is more about retaining possession and using the ball well. He’s been bullied a few times lately.
Exactly!!
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 12, 2023, 11:39:13 AM
If fit I'd bring Dendoncker in for Boubacar, otherwise it would be Chambers, would be great if Carlos got some game time.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Baldy on March 12, 2023, 11:46:22 AM
Without Kamara I think they'll dominate us in midfield, 2-1 them.

That's my worry. Fancied us to win this match before he got injured.

Will go for a draw.
View and my understanding of Premier League football.
I personally don't consider the physical issue as much of a factor outside of set plays and even then it's bordering on neglible as we are discussing high end footballers in level of player ability.
So to how I understand football at this level I really don't think the physical issue matters all that much. There are individual struggles, and perhaps Bailey is an instance where people's concerns about psychicality are legitimate in many games.

Request, consider and debate
I'd want to ask for more to demonstrate a better understanding of the level of football we're talking about. These are professional athletes from the Premier League. People seem to be concerned about their own experiences or ideas of size and strength. Look from the elite level perspective. This isn't youth or low level football.
With all due respect, the assertion made about this actual object strikes me as being very British or old school. Although Moyes and Emery employ distinct tactical approaches and philosophies.
Spannish Influence
Our manager is from Spain. The best footballing sides in Guardiola, Arteta and De Zebri are Spannish. That's my opinion.  Emery Villa will also be one of the most attractive teams on the ball and in the league in time.  He is also Spain
The wonderful football success of Spain's national team and individual players never wanted to distinguish themselves by being the most aggressive, but yes competitive,  they were in control with the football.

Not as simple as physicality
Being bullied in the middle of the park is significantly less sophisticated theory and it's more complex. I understand if that's how people want to view the game, but given how the Premier League players' skills and playing styles have developed, I find that to be not only simplistic but also wildly not the case due to fine details at this level.
When it comes to dominating, are you concerned about physical dominance and a hold over our midfilders, as some others have mentioned?
Who has the ball is high key factor yet hardly brought uo in discussion here why so???

Surmise:
Are the people who view this as merely a physical sport the same people aghast at playing it out from the back. I suspect so. It makes sense.

Suggestion:
Might I suggest that Villa will strive to possess the ball for a long time? If so, Villa could have the upper hand due to that.

Fact:
West Ham currently ranks 15th in the league in terms of average home possession (43%).
They come in at number 18 for possession overall.

Villa have 48% possession away from home
It's Emery philosophy to retain the ball maybe we could include the focus here as much as anywhere in regards this dominating!

If a team plays football on the grass, they have more control and therefore physicality becomes less of a concern.

If a team plays its football in the air/clouds, they have less control, then physicality becomes a bigger issue as there is more 'scrapping' and less' finesse'.

Unai prefers the grass.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Drummond on March 12, 2023, 11:49:35 AM
Footy, you should create and write a blog. I think that might work really well for you.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 12, 2023, 12:01:41 PM
In last 12 months West Ham have played 12 league games on a Sunday after european ties. Won just four of them and two of them have been v us!

I'd take a point. Beat Bournemouth and that puts us nicely in touch with many teams going into the international break even if we're not quite top 10.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 12, 2023, 12:03:08 PM
I think we'll have too much for them today. 0-2.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Ads on March 12, 2023, 12:15:30 PM
I wish Brum had a train/tube system like the Cockneys.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: wince on March 12, 2023, 12:24:13 PM
Is footy-Vill a computer algorithm?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 12, 2023, 12:29:34 PM
I wish Brum had a train/tube system like the Cockneys.

So do I, its really hard getting round this city without a car.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Ads on March 12, 2023, 12:36:56 PM
I wish Brum had a train/tube system like the Cockneys.

So do I, its really hard getting round this city without a car.

Just how easy it is down here to zip about. 7 mins from St Pancras, the tube etc. They've got it spot on.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: dr.chekov on March 12, 2023, 01:04:51 PM
I wish Brum had a train/tube system like the Cockneys.

So do I, its really hard getting round this city without a car.

Just how easy it is down here to zip about. 7 mins from St Pancras, the tube etc. They've got it spot on.

Trust me, when you live down here and have to use it on a daily basis, it doesn't seem much of a gift.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Risso on March 12, 2023, 01:04:58 PM
Oh good, Bailey's starting.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 12, 2023, 01:06:23 PM
Carlos on the bench.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 12, 2023, 01:08:42 PM
Could one of the usual suspects unembroil themselves from matters elsewhere and start us a match thread?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 12, 2023, 01:12:12 PM
Why does the line up always only ever show us with 8 substitutes?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 12, 2023, 01:15:00 PM
Could one of the usual suspects unembroil themselves from matters elsewhere and start us a match thread?

Getting the match thread up and running today seems as tricky as getting MOTD on air.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Ian. on March 12, 2023, 01:17:44 PM
Oh good, Bailey's starting.

Wow, that’s surprising.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 12, 2023, 01:18:59 PM
Could one of the usual suspects unembroil themselves from matters elsewhere and start us a match thread?
Getting the match thread up and running today seems as tricky as getting MOTD on air.

Bit drunk last night. When I tuned in to MOTD the sound editing was really poor. Couldn't hear the commentator. It whizzed by too - seemed like 20 mins tops. There was no chumocracy either.

Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 12, 2023, 01:19:40 PM
Oh good, Bailey's starting.

Wow, that’s surprising.


I did a little groan
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Ian. on March 12, 2023, 01:20:16 PM
Carlos on the bench.

That’s brilliant news.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Beard82 on March 12, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
Hmm - and McGinn deeper. Bloody annoying that dendoncker would do a reasonable job but is out too

I worry we’ll lose it in the midfield - but we’ll see
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Ian. on March 12, 2023, 01:21:36 PM
Oh good, Bailey's starting.

Wow, that’s surprising.


I did a little groan

A little bit like fireworks. Bailey starting, oooooh, Carlos on the bench, arrrrr.
Actually that just sound like I’ve lived in Devon too long.
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 12, 2023, 01:22:24 PM
I wish Brum had a train/tube system like the Cockneys.
They have got HS2 though?
Title: Re: West Ham vs Aston Villa pre match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 12, 2023, 01:39:06 PM
Annoying that Bailey is playing and of course, Ings is starting for them.

Bollocks to the pair of them.

Come on Villa!
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