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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on March 04, 2023, 02:00:17 PM
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Great, Zaha is back to torment to Mings as usual.
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Win please
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
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Clearly 2 keepers are here to stay. No point in even worrying now. They will be good on the counter. We need to take our chances because overall they are very average and we need to make our possessional advantage work for us when we get our chances
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Score first and don’t do what we did v Leicester
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Last time i watched Saha he looked like he had lost abit of sharpness. I will shut up now
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
You might as well give a youngster match day experience
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Last time i watched Saha he looked like he had lost abit of sharpness. I will shut up now
Well he is 44 now.
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We could have put JPA on the bench
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Donck is the one missing, typo or late injury?
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Out for personal reasons
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Emery said yesterday he wants to have three keepers for the pre-match warm-up and drills.
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Emery said yesterday he wants to have three keepers for the pre-match warm-up and drills.
2 keepers doesn't bother me, only 8 of a possible 9 subs picked seems saft though. Have a youngster on there to gain experience of being involved.
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Emery said yesterday he wants to have three keepers for the pre-match warm-up and drills.
2 keepers doesn't bother me, only 8 of a possible 9 subs picked seems saft though. Have a youngster on there to gain experience of being involved.
Fair. I think I meant to respond to TV but messed up.
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Nope. Just the 8 subs
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Juan Pablo at the ground let's give him a song
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Juan Pablo at the ground let's give him a song
Like.
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Emery said yesterday he wants to have three keepers for the pre-match warm-up and drills.
Aye, he'd also basically said that he thought the U21s weren't anywhere near getting in the first team and he was only going to let one go on the bench if he thought there was a chance he might put them on.
Seemed like a smart motivational move to me - you earn your place on the bench, it isn't just handed out to the tallest dwarf.
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Eze and Olise are excellent ball carriers but I wouldn't say either are lightening quick. Zaha just back off a six week lay off so would be surprised if he does the 90 minutes.
I expect us to win this as I don't think they can hurt us in ways Leicester could. Getting the first goal would be helpful though.
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Not sure I see much motivational skills in telling a bunch of youngsters that you think they are so shit you'd rather have an empty seat on the bench than one of them.
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Not sure I see much motivational skills in telling a bunch of youngsters that you think they are so shit you'd rather have an empty seat on the bench than one of them.
Did we loan Kadan Young out as he was making the bench over xmas/early Jan?
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Not sure I see much motivational skills in telling a bunch of youngsters that you think they are so shit you'd rather have an empty seat on the bench than one of them.
I just don’t understand it at all. And the false hope thing is stupid too. Surely it’s false hope for Sinsalo to be on the bench as the second reserve keeper in a sport where it’s rare to see the main keeper ever changed through injury or tactics.
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Emery said yesterday he wants to have three keepers for the pre-match warm-up and drills.
2 keepers doesn't bother me, only 8 of a possible 9 subs picked seems saft though. Have a youngster on there to gain experience of being involved.
I read somewhere he doesn’t like to give false hope either.
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Really important we take the three points today to stay with the top half pack. Hoping for a great Villa Park performance and goals.
3-0 Villa Watkins (pen), McGinn and Konza
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8 subs, 2 of them keepers. Surely there's a youngster we can stick on the bench? Unless it's a typo.
Emery said yesterday he wants to have three keepers for the pre-match warm-up and drills.
Aye, he'd also basically said that he thought the U21s weren't anywhere near getting in the first team and he was only going to let one go on the bench if he thought there was a chance he might put them on.
Seemed like a smart motivational move to me - you earn your place on the bench, it isn't just handed out to the tallest dwarf.
Yes sounds like good management from El Maestro
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Hopefully big Jhon will get some game time.
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Emi moaning at the ref in the tunnel!
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Crystal Palace haven't won this year!
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Come on villa, all 3 please
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Who approved their kit?! That lazy looking scribble down the front!
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They haven't won a game this year so we all know what happens.
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Anyone know if Palace have won recently?
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Can't get Villa TV
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Brilliant corner routine...
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0-1 Palace score Zaha
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Brilliant corner routine...
We need to hire a set piece coach
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Unfuckingbelivable.
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VAR check...
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Really? Oh ffs.
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Fucking inevitable
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Wouldn't you just know it. I fucking hate that fucker.
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My stream is fucked already and we let a goal in. Great start
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So tired of Konsa.
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Villa stop being a points fairy. Ffs
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Offside!! 0-0 still
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Offside
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Walked through our defence. Far too easy.
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Thank fuck for VAR
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Villa that’s a warning to stop being a points fairy
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I love you VAR
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As usual, the opposition's best attacks come from us giving it away, usually from a throw in or a corner.
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Fortunate, sort it out Villa.
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I love VAR!!!
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My live stream is 2 mins behind. Will follow on here
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The bigger point is we were cut open so easily there.
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Huge let off, useless ****** in defence.
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The bigger point is we were cut open so easily there.
Exactly.
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We won't stay on level terms for long if we continue defending like that.
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Palace playing like they're not worried about points or goals. I think that says more about Villa than it does about Palace.
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That's the way Emery wants us to defend, by the look of it, so we can expect more of that. The back four held a decent line but you need pressure on the ball from the midfield which we didn't have.
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He's a punchable twat but Zaha is a very good player.
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Anyone got a decent means of watching this?
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When is Carlos back? Konsa a liability
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That's the way Emery wants us to defend, by the look of it, so we can expect more of that. The back four held a decent line but you need pressure on the ball from the midfield which we didn't have.
He won’t want us to defend badly.
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He was miles offside!!
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That's the way Emery wants us to defend, by the look of it, so we can expect more of that. The back four held a decent line but you need pressure on the ball from the midfield which we didn't have.
He won’t want us to defend badly.
I meant he wants us to play the opposition off side. A lot.
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He's a punchable twat but Zaha is a very good player.
If he was a couple of years younger I'd want us to sign him.
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Konsa makes me nervous.
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He was miles offside!!
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Have to say, I didn't even think it was close to being onside, clearly off.
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We are playing some decent stuff going forward especially down the left. But every time we have the ball in our own half I shit myself that we are going to gift them a goal
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Playing some decent stuff ATM
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Zaha is a great player, and a massive shithouse. The fact he went to the Villa fans to celebrate is an example, that it was ruled out makes it funny.
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Got to say ,the pitch looks immaculate.Best I've seen in the Prem.
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We seem to be targeting Clyne on left but the high line is worrying
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Commentators doing my head in.
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Konsa really is absolutely shit
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Any babbling brooks?
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Wish Cash wouldn't come inside all the time
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Commentators doing my head in.
“Villa playing with a lack of pace at the moment..”
WTF? :o
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Commentators doing my head in.
Mine are foreign so can't understand a word
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Commentators doing my head in.
“Villa playing with a lack of pace at the moment..”
WTF? :o
I don’t think it’s entirely wrong. We are very deliberate. Playing ok but it’s not exactly overly fluid.
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Commentators doing my head in.
Mine are foreign so can't understand a word
Mine's got covid
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Konsa terrifies me these days.
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Commentators doing my head in.
“Villa playing with a lack of pace at the moment..”
WTF? :o
I don’t think it’s entirely wrong. We are very deliberate. Playing ok but it’s not exactly overly fluid.
Luiz was dribbling 15 yds forward at pace when she said it and moreno had already bombed into the box 3 times.
Hardly stagnant.
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Konsa terrifies me these days.
He has zero confidence with the ball at his feet.
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Konsa terrifies me these days.
He is genuinely scary.
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Commentators doing my head in.
Mine are foreign so can't understand a word
Lucky. Mine are a combination of dying for us to make a mistake and Vicky Pollard.
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Any babbling brooks?
yeah ive got one
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Konsa terrifies me these days.
He is genuinely scary.
Just watched the highlights of Everton v Villa this morning and he got skinned a couple of times. And what the hell was he doing just lying on the ground that time. He had plenty of time to move from there. Off the pitch first would have done...
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Struggling to find a means of washing my socks if you know what I mean
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Well done Matty
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Christ, Moreno getting forward so much on that side.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is better than teletext!
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Hahaha own goal
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Get in!
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YESSSS!!!!!
Great ball by McGinn.
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Moreno and Cash impressive thus far. Great find by SJM!
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What a finish. Sign him up!
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My noisy neighbour who gets on my tits is apparently a villa fan!
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GOLAZO!
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Brilliant. Sat watching for 2 minutes with a big smile on my face waiting for the goal.
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MCGinn's ball for Cash! Love it!
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Konsa terrifies me these days.
He is genuinely scary.
Just watched the highlights of Everton v Villa this morning and he got skinned a couple of times. And what the hell was he doing just lying on the ground that time. He had plenty of time to move from there. Off the pitch first would have done...
Really hasn't been the same player as he was under Smith.
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Commentators have brought up our Arsenal loss 5 times already, we get it. Fuckin a.
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That goal shows why Martinez holds onto it so long sometimes. They're waiting for the opposition to push up and leave some space.
Clever.
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The goal
https://twitter.com/i/status/1632040762417217539
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Jordan Ayew has such a naturally miserable all the time face
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Phew
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Fucks sake Konsa, that was never going to go over the line.
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We’ve not been out of our own half in ages
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Going to get caught with the hanging on to it at the back thing.
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We seem determined to give them a goal by fucking around at the back.
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Zaha is so clearly Palace’s best player. Any time he gets near the ball he just looks so dangerous and willing to try something
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Penalty surely.
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Great play Ollie. In defence
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Bostin run by Ollie
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Great work from Watkins.
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Oh Ollie!
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I've never seen Zaha have a better game against any other team as he does against Villa.
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Ollie must score there.
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Woulda been goal of the season
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He won’t get a better chance than that all season.
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Terrible miss
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How did he miss that!?
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What a ball that was from Buendia. Just sublime.
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great work by Ollie and then miss of the season two mins later.
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HT. We should be 2-0 up instead of just the 1 goal lead, which amuses me purely because we've had 0 shots on target.
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Unbelievable miss.
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The best and worst of Watkins in 3 minutes.
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That was a fucking appalling finish. Watkins all over. Fuck me.
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No shots on target so far
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Good that we’re in front but need to be better in second half.
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Always bet on No goal scorer rather than 0-0.
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HT. We should be 2-0 up instead of just the 1 goal lead, which amuses me purely because we've had 0 shots on target.
I thought the early one from Buendia looked destined for the bottom corner before it got deflected. Maybe?
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Decent half that! Played some nice stuff. Angel in the crowd today, he'd have finished a couple of those!
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Zero shots on target in the first half.
I don't think we've been particularly good but a few times we've upped the tempo and made a few good moves. Ollie needs to bury that chance, hope it doesn't come back to haunt us.
I can see Palace getting a goal in the manner of their disallowed one, or us handing them one on a plate. Hopefully Carlos will replace Konsa, if not we need to sign someone ASAP.
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Decent half that! Played some nice stuff. Angel in the crowd today, he'd have finished a couple of those!
With VAR he'd score 2 a season as he'd be offside all the time.
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Prize Where It Lies returns! About time.
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Good that we’re in front but need to be better in second half.
Yeah. We need to move up a few gears second half. Apart from McGinn nobody else has impressed. Moreno has got forward well but delivery not there. Dougie really frustrates me, he's such a talent but prefers to cruise through games. It's not enough. He needs to start dominating the midfield, he's more than capable of it.
If we're going to build from the back can we at least release it when we have players available rather than wait until the player with the ball is under pressure. It's not great for my nerves.
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We remain unconvincing at home but I hope we can step it up second half. We need an emphatic home win.
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McGinn's been excellent. All over the pitch and some nice passes including the one that set Cash free for the OG. Would've been criticising him far less if he'd been playing like this for last 18 months.
Beyond that pretty average but then Palace at home is the sort of game where it will be scrappy and we can't commit too much otherwise they can get through on goal as we saw for their disallowed goal.
Hopefully we can get a second midway through second half and then see out victory in similar manner to last week.
Palace corners are even worse than ours.
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Emery wants us to have the ball more at home. We don’t do that enough and the fact that we haven’t got a shot on target is very concerning. We need to be far more dominant when playing at Villa Park. Our possession advantage right now is a lot of passing in our own half which is also really worrying give our propensity to give it away too easily
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It's looking like a mid table, nothing at stake game
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Decent half that! Played some nice stuff. Angel in the crowd today, he'd have finished a couple of those!
With VAR he'd score 2 a season as he'd be offside all the time.
At least he'd give VAR something to think about though hey? ;)
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McGinn and Luiz have been good for us though. Hopefully it all comes together now.
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Come on Villa! Let's give something for Jordan Ayew to sulk about.
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How many shit late fouls here ref?
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Some players hold onto the ball too long sometimes ,scares the life out of me
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Playing like Messi, only with an y
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Ref don't used cards much
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Playing like Messi, only with an y
Yessi?
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10th as it stands, really need the win here so there is some light between us and the bottom half.
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Finally a booking, hopefully Kamara is ok
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Ref don't used cards much
ayyy!
Edit: Shit..
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That Buendia song is absolutely dire. So, so bad.
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10th as it stands, really need the win here so there is some light between us and the bottom half.
Yep any slight lingering relegation battle gets expunged today with a win. Then we can see who is right to keep v to move on during the rest of season
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Kamara looks fucked. That c**t Doucoure scissored his back foot.
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Chambers on for Kamara
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Dirty fucker
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That's all we need, nasty tackle.
Chambers in CM 😩
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That's all we fucking need
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Chambers now down
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Looks a bad one for Booby. Just as we get Diego back too.
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Why do I just have a terrible feeling about how all this will end today?
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Palace red card
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Palace red card
About bloody time!
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Doucoure the one off, dirty bastard
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Fucking scumbag.
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Chambers playing on
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Horrible challenge
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Absolute scum.
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Dirty palace bastards
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As i was saying pre match that Pawson has 15 matches this season as ref and no sending off. It was a sign.
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Doucoure you fucking wanker
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Fucking hell!
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Playing against 10 men, I'm worried!
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As i was saying pre match that Pawson has 15 matches this season as ref and no sending off. It was a sign.
It wasn’t a sign of anything other than he hadn’t sent anyone off
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Who was it who said in the pre-match that Pawson was overdue producing a red?
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That's a red not a second yellow
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Playing against 10 men, I'm worried!
Haha, I'm sitting here thinking exactly the same!
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As i was saying pre match that Pawson has 15 matches this season as ref and no sending off. It was a sign.
It wasn’t a sign of anything other than he hadn’t sent anyone off
Like Ace of Base
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Well I put that stat up for one to watch
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If we fuck this up then I'll be livid.
I think we'll coast through the game 'to see if out'. They'll get one and we won't be able to get any tempo back, finish 1-1.
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As i was saying pre match that Pawson has 15 matches this season as ref and no sending off. It was a sign.
haha well predicted, Footy 8)
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Red card for opposition normally spells disaster for us.
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We love you Footy!
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Pawson was too lenient on them before. If he'd got his cards out earlier Kamara might not have got the injury.
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Come on Villa, put this game to bed!!!!
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Eze booked
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Am I just say that it’s not easy to win against 10 men if you are Villa.
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Bloody hell that was close by Zaha from absolutely nothing
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Digne and Bailey on. JJ and Moreno off.
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What a shirt stretch, new standard for signings in the summer.
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Zaha close
Ffs
Step it up villa
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Bloody hell that was close by Zaha from absolutely nothing
Credit where it's due, he did very well there. Great bit of skill.
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Bailey is on that's no laughing matter.
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Can't find any bookies to take a bet on a Martinez booking today.
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Bloody hell that was close by Zaha from absolutely nothing
Credit where it's due, he did very well there. Great bit of skill.
He's class. I'd love him at Villa.
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I'd have put Bertie on not bailey
Ramsay's runs was good but final ball poor
Think Bertie would have done ok against these
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I spent 40 minutes at work thinking we were 0-1 down.
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A shot on target!!
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I spent 40 minutes at work thinking we were 0-1 down.
That’s just being a Villa fan. You can seek professional help for that.
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Fucking hell what a lazy pass that was from Bailey
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Palace are going to get even, I have a bet on it
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If he has a shot I hope Bailey doesn't balloon it over.
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McGinn with the first attempt on target
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Save from mcginn
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Defending by Bailey! Shit clearance mind
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A shot on target!!
2 minutes later here
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I sometimes wish Ollie would get a bit angry with the ref when he's fouled.
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Bailey just gave the ball away
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How serious was the Kamara one?
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Bailey just gave the ball away
He needs to be moved on in the summer
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How serious was the Kamara one?
Looked bad, could be ligament in foot
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How serious was the Kamara one?
Hopefully just a sprain and not ankle ligaments, but it didn't look good.
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How serious was the Kamara one?
Let’s just hope it’s a bad ankle sprain and not anything more serious
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This game has that late equalizer kick in the nuts 1-1 feeling to it
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Doug booked
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How serious was the Kamara one?
Hopefully just a sprain and not ankle ligaments, but it didn't look good.
Looked like an impact injury so unless he’s chipped a bone it should be ok
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Come on villa
Put this game to bed
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Passing wank
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As i was saying pre match that Pawson has 15 matches this season as ref and no sending off. It was a sign.
haha well predicted, Footy 8)
Yes the week before against Everton I had pointed out we hadn't been awarded a penalty by Taylor the ref or 10 years.
And were duly awarded!
Funny how these things turn out.
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This game has that late equalizer kick in the nuts 1-1 feeling to it
We're doing our best to deliver it.
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I just hope Martinez doesn't get booked today.
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They have got 10 men haven’t they?
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C’mon Ollie. Get your 6th in a row and finish this thing off
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Watching some ginger you tuber commentating and he is an annoying tit
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I just hope Martinez doesn't get booked today.
We have far bigger problems than Emi getting booked.
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How serious was the Kamara one?
Hopefully just a sprain and not ankle ligaments, but it didn't look good.
Looked like an impact injury so unless he’s chipped a bone it should be ok
I think his trailing foot got scissored and stretched out under Doucoure.
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This is rubbish
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Ming's scaring me
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Big Jon coming on for Ollie it appears
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Come on big Jhon
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This is rubbish
It’s hard work watching us.
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Why are we so shit?
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Ollie off, JD on.
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When the opposition has a player sent off for challenges like that, they should just award you the win.
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Fucking hell. We need to score there
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Big Jon coming on for Ollie it appears
Ollie is not happy about this.
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Who's got the 11 men again ?
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Chambers should have shot
But he's looked ok since coming on
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Get on the ball Villa for fucks sake
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Zaha booked
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Big Jon coming on for Ollie it appears
Ollie is not happy about this.
Well he had his chance to keep his record going and he massively fucked it up
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Why are we so collosally shite against 10??
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Jeeze
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Why are we so collosally shite against 10??
We were good against these 2 years ago when we only had 10
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We are going to concede here at any moment
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My Portuguese commentator really likes saying Joachim Anderson's name.
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5 mins added time
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What's happened to us
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Calum Chambers runs like Raheem Sterling with those alligator arms
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Bailey beats his man
Not
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What's happened to us
We don’t have confidence seeing out games
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All we have to do is keep the ball...
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Bailey beats his man
Not
Perfect situation for him. 1 up. 10 men. Lots of space. Never delivers
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All we have to do is keep the ball...
The ball is our kryptonite
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All we have to do is keep the ball...
Keep what?
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All we have to do is keep the ball...
The ball is our kryptonite
If only we were super the rest of the time!
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EMI waste a bit of time
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Duran has to go into the corner there. No need to shoot
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Full time.
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A win is always satisfying. We weren't good and somehow got worse when they were down to 10.
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Fantastic! Happy to have hung on for the points.
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We weren't great, they were shit. Tbf we've needed a home game where we grind out a win.