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Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 21, 2023, 09:02:19 PM
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Eubank Jr seems to be in a genuine match-up tonight, even if Liam Smith has outed himself as a bit of an arse.
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Has anyone got a way to watch it?
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Has anyone got a way to watch it?
Just sent you details of a babbling brook
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So far you've missed Joseph Parker win comfortably and Ekow Essuman come from behind to get a decision
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Well, that was a bit of a surprise.
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I'm not keen on Eubank Jr but it's a shame, after everything said in the last few days. I thought him wearing the pride armband was a nice touch.
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I didn’t see that coming!!
Not sure where next for Eubank ( rematch aside )
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Has anybody else seen this supposed 'elbow'?
I saw a flurry of punches, with a knockout uppercut.
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The swelling on the eye I said to my lad as we watched live could only have come from an elbow or a head, no way does a punch from a gloved, taped hand cause that. There is a video where Smith misses at the start of the knockdown as Eubank ducks, and he brings his elbow in at a strange angle.
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Was that the left hook? Didn't look much contact there, to me. Not saying it didn't happen, just that I haven't seen convincing footage.
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Anthony Yarde will do well to finish second tonight.
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He's started well. But this guy looks unstoppable to me.
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Yep, if he gets to halfway he’s done well
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What a round that was!
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He's made halfway. Fair play to him.
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Class fight, hopefully there will be rematch, could watch that again
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Joshua's comeback fight will take place on 1 April at the O2, opponent not yet confirmed, expected to be Jermaine Fletcher, will be announced officially next week.
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Who is Jermaine Franklin?
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Sorry, anyway Jermaine Franklin lost on points to Dillian Whyte last November.
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Oh right cheers.
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The exciting Adam Azim topping the bill tonight at Wembley Arena, with Zak Chelli and Caroline Dubois on the undercard, free on Sky.
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It's been a good card so far; Riley v Taj was settling into a cracker before the cut.
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Some boxers I just can’t take to, Azim is one.
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Some boxers I just can’t take to, Azim is one.
I'm trying to think of which boxer this flashy Asian light welter reminds me of.....
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Exactly
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We know he can do ten rounds now.
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David Adeleye looked impressive last night. This must surely be the strongest collection of British heavyweights ever.
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And tonight should see a fight of the year contender.
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Looked a real tasty fight between Wood and Lara.
From the bits I saw Lara seemed to be using his head a fair bit, but what a punch to end it!
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Lara's a one-handed punk, in my opinion.
I thought the towel came in prematurely, but I'll never question a trainer (who is there and can see things better than any of us) for putting the wellbeing of their fighter first.
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And tonight should see a fight of the year contender.
It certainly wouldn't have been Gamal Yafai u were referring to.....i was completely taken aback as to how awful he was.
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Lara's a one-handed punk, in my opinion.
I thought the towel came in prematurely, but I'll never question a trainer (who is there and can see things better than any of us) for putting the wellbeing of their fighter first.
I thought Leigh looked knackered already and that knockout was clean. He would have been flattened and god knows what else if he'd been allowed to continue I think. Trainer did well to save him for another day.
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Lara's a one-handed punk, in my opinion.
I thought the towel came in prematurely, but I'll never question a trainer (who is there and can see things better than any of us) for putting the wellbeing of their fighter first.
I thought Leigh looked knackered already and that knockout was clean. He would have been flattened and god knows what else if he'd been allowed to continue I think. Trainer did well to save him for another day.
I thought he could've survived the last few seconds of the round and then seen what could be done in the minute off, but equally, he could've taken a serious shot in those few seconds, so you're probably right.
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Lara's a one-handed punk, in my opinion.
I thought the towel came in prematurely, but I'll never question a trainer (who is there and can see things better than any of us) for putting the wellbeing of their fighter first.
I thought Leigh looked knackered already and that knockout was clean. He would have been flattened and god knows what else if he'd been allowed to continue I think. Trainer did well to save him for another day.
I thought he could've survived the last few seconds of the round and then seen what could be done in the minute off, but equally, he could've taken a serious shot in those few seconds, so you're probably right.
The guy had the towel in his hand for ages. Leigh was right by him so he had a clear view, once the ref looked to continue the towel went in. Correct decision
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So Conor Benn's high consumption of eggs has been accepted by the WBC as the reason for failing a drug test, eggtraordinary, not sure if the BBBC and the UK Anti-Doping will see it that way.
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Will anyone be bothering with tonight's hype-fest?
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what time is it on and where ? it all feels a bit WWF
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what time is it on and where ? it all feels a bit WWF
Ringwalk happening now, on a stream of your choice.
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Honestly box office for this? To be fair they’ve played it well, but bloody hell.
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what time is it on and where ? it all feels a bit WWF
Ringwalk happening now, on a stream of your choice.
thanks , the fight before was pretty good
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Bloody hell family interviews between rounds ??
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Please God no rematch.
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Best thing I've read about the fight:
'Popstar Drake shared a screenshot of his $400,000 (£335,000) bet on a Paul KO win, while Home Alone actor Macaulay Culkin tweeted: "There's no better way to celebrate your half birthday than to watch Jake Paul get punched in the head repeatedly.'
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Best thing I've read about the fight:
'Popstar Drake shared a screenshot of his $400,000 (£335,000) bet on a Paul KO win, while Home Alone actor Macaulay Culkin tweeted: "There's no better way to celebrate your half birthday than to watch Jake Paul get punched in the head repeatedly.'
Half birthday? Wtf is that?
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Paul was better than I thought he'd be; he's the sort of fighter who if he sold tickets would win a few against journeymen then lose to the first opponent who fights back and pack it all in. If Fury knuckled down he might, given that he's got the right connections, get to English title level. In reality both will have a couple more fights against YouTubers then retire to count their money.
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Best thing I've read about the fight:
'Popstar Drake shared a screenshot of his $400,000 (£335,000) bet on a Paul KO win, while Home Alone actor Macaulay Culkin tweeted: "There's no better way to celebrate your half birthday than to watch Jake Paul get punched in the head repeatedly.'
Half birthday? Wtf is that?
No idea, but I agree with the sentiment.
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Paul was better than I thought he'd be; he's the sort of fighter who if he sold tickets would win a few against journeymen then lose to the first opponent who fights back and pack it all in. If Fury knuckled he might, given that he's got the right connections, get to English title level. In reality both will have a couple more fights against YouTubers then retire to count their money.
Yeah, both just third-rate celebrities using boxing to market themselves. Mayweather/McGregor was a circus, but at least McGregor was a noted pugilist, albeit I find MMA nauseating.
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Please God no rematch.
Sadly Paul is saying there will be a rematch.
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Richard Riakporhe was at VP on Saturday, I assume he's a Palace fan. I know it's true of every boxer, but bloody hell you wouldn't mess.
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I've only just read that Joe Bugner has advanced dementia and is in a bad way.
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That is sad news, last month was the 50th anniversary of his first fight with Ali.
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That is sad news, last month was the 50th anniversary of his first fight with Ali.
Yes indeed, wouldn't wish dementia on anyone. Was very surprised to see he's only 72.
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Was looking a Bugner's full record earlier. Christ boxing has changed. Lost his first fight, won the next 18 or something, fought the best, and some bums. His was a ridiculous career. I know it was dodgy as and criminally dangerous at times, but I miss the days before there were 27 world champions per pound of weight difference. It's like football: better in so many ways now but, ultimately, maybe not.
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Fighting until he was about 48 didn't help, and for all the abuse he got, when motivated he was world-class.
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I always put him in with those that I saw as a kid. Magri, Watt, Minter, etc. Thinking of those names, he definitely went on way too long.
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Like McLeish, Bugner was more bothered about not losing than winning.
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Joe never really got the backing of the British public, either.
That was more down to beating Henry Cooper than boxing ability.
Our ‘Enry’s last fight and everyone wanted him to go out with a win. Unfortunately, Joe didn’t read the script.
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Yeah, Joe was booed loudly by the crowd when the ref gave him the verdict over Cooper.
The fact that Bugner was far from an 'exciting' fighter, meant he never really got over that start, apart from a bout against Frazier where he really had a go.
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It was part he beat Cooper, part he always looked the, er, the part but never delivered when we were desperate for a world heavyweight champion, part that we loved gallant losers which he never was and part I suspect that he loved playing the pantomime villain.
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It was part he beat Cooper, part he always looked the, er, the part but never delivered when we were desperate for a world heavyweight champion, part that we loved gallant losers which he never was and part I suspect that he loved playing the pantomime villain.
Granted it's well before my time and I haven't done any particular research, but Cooper's popularity always slightly puzzled me. Not that I had/have anything against him, mind.
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It was part he beat Cooper, part he always looked the, er, the part but never delivered when we were desperate for a world heavyweight champion, part that we loved gallant losers which he never was and part I suspect that he loved playing the pantomime villain.
Granted it's well before my time and I haven't done any particular research, but Cooper's popularity always slightly puzzled me. Not that I had/have anything against him, mind.
Basically, he was a good loser, a nice guy and he got cheated against Ali. Which he didn't, but that's another story.
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It was part he beat Cooper, part he always looked the, er, the part but never delivered when we were desperate for a world heavyweight champion, part that we loved gallant losers which he never was and part I suspect that he loved playing the pantomime villain.
Granted it's well before my time and I haven't done any particular research, but Cooper's popularity always slightly puzzled me. Not that I had/have anything against him, mind.
Basically, he was a good loser, a nice guy and he got cheated against Ali. Which he didn't, but that's another story.
Oh really? I hadn't heard about the idea he was cheated by Ali. First fight or second?
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First. He put Ali down, then at the end of the round there was a problem with Ali's glove. The myth grew that Angelo Dundee worked on a split that enabled the interval to be extended, allowing Ali time to recover and stop Cooper in the next round. The reality is that the glove was already split, it was never replaced and the interval was no more than seven seconds longer.
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First. He put Ali down, then at the end of the round there was a problem with Ali's glove. The myth grew that Angelo Dundee worked on a split that enabled the interval to be extended, allowing Ali time to recover and stop Cooper in the next round. The reality is that the glove was already split, it was never replaced and the interval was no more than seven seconds longer.
Wow, I hadn't heard that, thanks Dave. That's pretty desperate, particularly with some of the tricks going on in the 60s, like whatever Liston was putting on his gloves.
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First. He put Ali down, then at the end of the round there was a problem with Ali's glove. The myth grew that Angelo Dundee worked on a split that enabled the interval to be extended, allowing Ali time to recover and stop Cooper in the next round. The reality is that the glove was already split, it was never replaced and the interval was no more than seven seconds longer.
Wow, I hadn't heard that, thanks Dave. That's pretty desperate, particularly with some of the tricks going on in the 60s, like whatever Liston was putting on his gloves.
Angelo Dundee was a great trainer but he did like to embelish the truth. The fact is that Cooper was a decent enough heavyweight at European level but weighed in at around 13st 6, which wasn't big enough to trouble the top heavies of the time.
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First. He put Ali down, then at the end of the round there was a problem with Ali's glove. The myth grew that Angelo Dundee worked on a split that enabled the interval to be extended, allowing Ali time to recover and stop Cooper in the next round. The reality is that the glove was already split, it was never replaced and the interval was no more than seven seconds longer.
Wow, I hadn't heard that, thanks Dave. That's pretty desperate, particularly with some of the tricks going on in the 60s, like whatever Liston was putting on his gloves.
Angelo Dundee was a great trainer but he did like to embelish the truth. The fact is that Cooper was a decent enough heavyweight at European level but weighed in at around 13st 6, which wasn't big enough to trouble the top heavies of the time.
13st6, eh? I may be mistaken but I think Ali regularly weighed in under 16 stone before the draft bullshit.
Imagine that in the modern era. Not that I'm diminishing the greats whatsoever, but we currently have Usyk, who is 6ft3 and 220lbs being described as a 'middleweight'. Crazy.
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Solomon Dacres from Warley about to go into the ring for the English heavyweight title.
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And gets a very impressive second round stoppage.
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Lyndon Arthur's on Channel 5 now, if anyone can be bothered.
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It’s not the most exciting fight so far :-)
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Phrase that never use nowadays but ‘fair play to Boris’ - just about saw the final bell :-) - think cagey is best word for the fight
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Arthur isn't the most exciting fighter but he can pull a big shot from nowhere.
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Ben Whittaker returns to the ring on 6 May at the NEC.
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I've just got in. Have I missed anything yet?
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Laurence Okolie isn't exactly box office.
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What are your thoughts on Fury/Usyk not going ahead Dave? Does boxing need some mechanism where these fights aren't solely left in the hands of promoters to try to thrash out a deal. Could there be some sort of "fight each other or you both lose your belts" type rules after a while. The latest episode in the highest profile weight does nothing for the reputation of the sport.
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It's ridiculous and one of the reasons why MMA is so popular. You have multiple world champions yet the two best at their weight won't fight each other. It's like Manchester City saying they're joining the Scottish league because they don't want to lose to Arsenal. The trouble is that both fighters will say the other is at fault but if you strip the belts from them they'll still be the best, they'll still not fight and you'll have another four world champions to make the situation even dafter.
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I know why the rankings don't work this way, but I wonder if, in situations like this, one of WBA/WBO/IBF could make Fury the mandatory, and WBC could do likewise with Usyk.
It seems silly that we're looking at Dubois being a mandatory when the belts are split between two undefeated fighters.
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And now all of a sudden they're talking about Fury - Joshua. Quick, look over there!
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And now all of a sudden they're talking about Fury - Joshua. Quick, look over there!
Unfair distraction for Joshua, considering his career is over if he doesn't win on Saturday.
Edit: just saw it was AJ himself who mentioned it. Idiotic.
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And now all of a sudden they're talking about Fury - Joshua. Quick, look over there!
Unfair distraction for Joshua, considering his career is over if he doesn't win on Saturday.
Edit: just saw it was AJ himself who mentioned it. Idiotic.
He's desperately trying to stay relevant. It's gone a bit Amir Khan hasn't it? A good fighter with a big punch who will be out-thought by someone with a good boxing brain.
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He's not a particularly good fighter though, is he? Every time he's fought somebody half decent he's either struggled (Klitschko, Parker) or lost (Ruiz, Usyk). It would be a massive fight against Fury, but Fury would absolutely murder him.
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It's ridiculous and one of the reasons why MMA is so popular. You have multiple world champions yet the two best at their weight won't fight each other. It's like Manchester City saying they're joining the Scottish league because they don't want to lose to Arsenal. The trouble is that both fighters will say the other is at fault but if you strip the belts from them they'll still be the best, they'll still not fight and you'll have another four world champions to make the situation even after.
Curiously MMA often has the inverse problem - they often burn the talent pool early most of the top available fights are rematches.
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It would be madness to put Dubois in the ring with Usky, since his comeback, following his defeat to Joe Joyce back in Nov 2020, he's had 4 fights, his last opponent Lerena was Ok the other 3 were 'Punch Bags', which he won with 2TKOs and 2 KOs, total fight time less than 8 mins. He probably needs at least 3 fights against decent opponents, before you should be considering a fight with Usky.
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And now all of a sudden they're talking about Fury - Joshua. Quick, look over there!
Unfair distraction for Joshua, considering his career is over if he doesn't win on Saturday.
Edit: just saw it was AJ himself who mentioned it. Idiotic.
He's desperately trying to stay relevant. It's gone a bit Amir Khan hasn't it? A good fighter with a big punch who will be out-thought by someone with a good boxing brain.
Khan's an interesting one. If you were to exclude Prescott, which was a shocking loss, and he'd never taken the Brook fight, which just became a last payday circus, there's no shame in any of his other losses and he had some great wins.
But there's an inescapable feeling of wasted potential.
Joshua has actually done really well with his arguably much more limited talent. It's common for heavyweights to fight into their 40s these days, so he has time, but I don't see where Joshua really goes from here.
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And now all of a sudden they're talking about Fury - Joshua. Quick, look over there!
Unfair distraction for Joshua, considering his career is over if he doesn't win on Saturday.
Edit: just saw it was AJ himself who mentioned it. Idiotic.
He's desperately trying to stay relevant. It's gone a bit Amir Khan hasn't it? A good fighter with a big punch who will be out-thought by someone with a good boxing brain.
Khan's an interesting one. If you were to exclude Prescott, which was a shocking loss, and he'd never taken the Brook fight, which just became a last payday circus, there's no shame in any of his other losses and he had some great wins.
But there's an inescapable feeling of wasted potential.
Joshua has actually done really well with his arguably much more limited talent. It's common for heavyweights to fight into their 40s these days, so he has time, but I don't see where Joshua really goes from here.
Khan just wasn't up to the very top level. I suspect Joshua may be the same. He beat Klitschko, which was an impressive win, but I think he'd get beaten by Fury, he lost to Usyk twice, and I reckon Wilder would put him away too.
He needs another big win against one of those guys to stay relevant. I think Frampton did a piece yesterday saying he has to put this guy away on Saturday, and I think he's right.
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Joshua did well against Klitschko, especially when he looked dead on his feet in the middle of the bout after the knockdown in round 6 or 7. But there's no escaping the fact that Klitschko was 41 at the time, and his powers were definitely waning.
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Joshua did well against Klitschko, especially when he looked dead on his feet in the middle of the bout after the knockdown in round 6 or 7. But there's no escaping the fact that Klitschko was 41 at the time, and his powers were definitely waning.
Absolutely, he wouldn't have beaten Klitschko in prime form.
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Channel 5's show kicks off with a thirty second win.
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Joshua did well against Klitschko, especially when he looked dead on his feet in the middle of the bout after the knockdown in round 6 or 7. But there's no escaping the fact that Klitschko was 41 at the time, and his powers were definitely waning.
Absolutely, he wouldn't have beaten Klitschko in prime form.
Agreed, and I felt Klitschko was far too respectful and avuncular. It was nice to see two fighters showing respect for each other, but from the beginning, Klitschko struck me as a guy welcoming the chance to hand over the baton - or to hand it over to somebody other than Fury, at least - rather than a guy who really wanted to win that fight.
Taking nothing away from AJ, being one of four guys to beat Wlad (without being avenged) is no mean feat. At the same time, AJ has also only lost to Usyk without avenging the defeat.
Barring a very strange turn of events, he won't be facing Usyk again, and it's hard to see him beating Fury. That pretty much leaves him with Wilder as an option, which I would actually make AJ an ever so slight favourite for, personally. I reckon he could get on Wilder's inside and cause damage.
One of the big issues the modern heavyweights face is that they're locked where they are. Usyk is considered a midget at 6ft3 and 16 stone. Imagine someone like Smokin' Joe going up against Fury, giving up 10inches in height, 12 inches in reach & 60lbs in weight?
Fighters in lower divisions can move about a little bit - hover between Middle, Super-Middle & Light-Heavy, or between Welter & Middle - as they develop and to make the biggest fights.
How many natural athletes are there above, say 6ft2, with the speed, reflexes, strength, courage and coordination required to box, for whom boxing is their best/most lucrative bet? It's an easier and more well-trodden path for them to go into NFL, football, basketball, rugby, cricket, where their natural advantage won't be negated by only facing guys of a similar size, and where they don't get punched in the face as often.
Unfortunately, it's a bit of a double-bottleneck, where the guys big and strong enough to challenge at heavyweight have better offers in other sports; and those with the right attributes for boxing just cannot overcome such huge physical disadvantages.
There simply aren't many of these guys out there to face. Lose to a couple of them and your options are pretty fucking limited.
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It's all about opinions, but I think Wilder would batter Joshua within 3-4 rounds at most. I think AJ would be terrified of Wilder's punching power from the off, and would be on the back foot immediately. On your point about size, it does seem an era where they're all giants.
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Anybody going for a Franklin win tonight, bookies are offering odds of 17/2.
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Anybody going for a Franklin win tonight, bookies are offering odds of 17/2.
That's a decent price.
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It's all about opinions, but I think Wilder would batter Joshua within 3-4 rounds at most. I think AJ would be terrified of Wilder's punching power from the off, and would be on the back foot immediately. On your point about size, it does seem an era where they're all giants.
You may well be right. I'd like to see them fight, though, would be a more interesting fight than AJ v Fury.
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Gal Yafai's just being introduced.
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Hope Joshua gets knocked out. Fraud.
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quite the difference in size isn’t there
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That was certainly a performance from a boxer who's lost his last two fights.
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And only two KO wins in his last eight fights, stretching back five years. Not great for a heavyweight whose main asset is power.
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AJ wasn’t great was he, a very reserved performance. He looks like he lacks basic aggression.
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AJ wasn’t great was he, a very reserved performance. He looks like he lacks basic aggression.
Far from a classic. Joshua looks more like Audley Harrison with every fight.
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Gal Yafai's just being introduced.
I didn't see any of boxing, well not a lot 12th and final round of AJ fight. Wasn't really remotely interested but i am certainly interested in young Gal.
Did he win!
Did he do well??
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AJ wasn’t great was he, a very reserved performance. He looks like he lacks basic aggression.
Not a great trait in a boxer.
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Gal Yafai's just being introduced.
I didn't see any of boxing, well not a lot 12th and final round of AJ fight. Wasn't really remotely interested but i am certainly interested in young Gal.
Did he win!
Did he do well??
Fourth round stoppage. He looked impressive.
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I didn't watch much of it but it looked like a safety first approach, he just didn't want to get suckered so he never really committed to throwing massive shots himself. I reckon the Ruiz fight is the one that's taken the fight out of him more than Usyk.
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Amir Khan banned from all sport for two years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65173545
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There's a worrying trend happening where cheats are being excused responsibility for their actions.
Khan and Benn most recently; they've broken the rules, don't excuse them.
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Gal Yafai's just being introduced.
I didn't see any of boxing, well not a lot 12th and final round of AJ fight. Wasn't really remotely interested but i am certainly interested in young Gal.
Did he win!
Did he do well??
Fourth round stoppage. He looked impressive.
Thankyou
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Eyes down...
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Never gonna win, but nevertheless that was a good effort from Lucy Wildheart, coming in at the last minute to fight Mikaela Mayer.
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If Joyce didn’t know he was in a fight he does after round 2
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Joyce outclassed, Zhang did to Joyce, what Joyce did to Dubois.
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Devestating loss for Joyce in terms of his career really. A good win and he would have been that bit closer to a shot at Fury or Joshua. He's gone back quite a few steps now.
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More than anything he's lost the air of invincibility. He's always reminded me of George Foreman, and he was never the same post-Rumble.
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'Undisputed : The Life and Times of Ken Buchanan' is repeated tonight on BBC Scotland at 10pm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000zr7t
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There looks a few well-matched bouts on tonight's card.
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Who is fighting tonight Dave?
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Who is fighting tonight Dave?
https://boxrec.com/en/schedule?s%5Bstars%5D=&s%5BcountryCode%5D=0&s%5Bdivision%5D=&s%5Bmedia%5D=&s%5Bsport%5D=&c_go=
It's the Cordina bill.
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Hope he wins. No way should he have been stripped of the belt like that.
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Three rounds in and this is a bit of a cracker so far.
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Sounded like it, Dave! Very close on the cards, as well.
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Sounded like it, Dave! Very close on the cards, as well.
It was never a split decision. I had Cordina by at least three rounds, but some of them were admittedly difficult to score.
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I guess a knockdown can make a close fight seem even closer than it actually was.
Edit: just saw it was Cordina who scored the knockdown, not Rakhimov. Shows I should probably watch rather than listen!
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Is anybody watching tonight?
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Is anybody watching tonight?
I've just this very second turned on. Have I missed anything?
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Tyler Denny had a good win and Ben Whittaker looked impressive.
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And at some time in the history of pugilism there might have been a more boring fighter than Joshua Buatsi.
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Yeah he was a bit ring rusty, but expected more from him than that performance.
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Very dull, someone should have told him it wasn’t sparring and there was an audience in the room
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And if they could find a big puncher to knock out that ring announcer that would also be appreciated
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Very dull, someone should have told him it wasn’t sparring and there was an audience in the room
To be fair, there wasn't much of one.
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Will anyone be watching Katie Taylor tonight?
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Will anyone be watching Katie Taylor tonight?
Followed last few rounds on bbc website, sounded like fair and square result?
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Will anyone be watching Katie Taylor tonight?
I watched it and Cameron was a clear winner. Chuffed for her...from Nuneaton isn't she?
I daresay she earned a few quid as well.
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Will anyone be watching Katie Taylor tonight?
I watched it and Cameron was a clear winner. Chuffed for her...from Nuneaton isn't she?
I daresay she earned a few quid as well.
Northampton.
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I don’t know if the name Harrison Bennett means anything to you guys who know boxing?
At the gym today and there was this young lad on the boxing bag. Not the usual lad just hitting it, it was pretty clear that this lad knew what he was doing.
Anyway I had a bit of a chat and it turns out he’s pretty useful.
17 and a Midland champion (I think that’s what he said)
I’m in Northfield, so must be a local lad to me.
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Will anyone be watching Katie Taylor tonight?
I watched it and Cameron was a clear winner. Chuffed for her...from Nuneaton isn't she?
I daresay she earned a few quid as well.
Northampton.
I was close with the N....lol
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I don’t know if the name Harrison Bennett means anything to you guys who know boxing?
At the gym today and there was this young lad on the boxing bag. Not the usual lad just hitting it, it was pretty clear that this lad knew what he was doing.
Anyway I had a bit of a chat and it turns out he’s pretty useful.
17 and a Midland champion (I think that’s what he said)
I’m in Northfield, so must be a local lad to me.
Which gym?
I have heard of a Harrison Bennett but he's a wrestler and older than 17.
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I don’t know if the name Harrison Bennett means anything to you guys who know boxing?
At the gym today and there was this young lad on the boxing bag. Not the usual lad just hitting it, it was pretty clear that this lad knew what he was doing.
Anyway I had a bit of a chat and it turns out he’s pretty useful.
17 and a Midland champion (I think that’s what he said)
I’m in Northfield, so must be a local lad to me.
Which gym?
I have heard of a Harrison Bennett but he's a wrestler and older than 17.
Everlast in Longbridge
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Three bills tonight. And the promoters wonder why boxing is struggling.
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It’s very odd and shortsighted.
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Three bills tonight. And the promoters wonder why boxing is struggling.
Madness, tho pleased not to have look beyond sky or bt to find fights to watch
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Sam Eggington got a good win there. He just keeps on going on.
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Conlon took a hell of a punch…Lopes is v good
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I was watching Jack Caterall because I can't stand Michael Conlon. Caterall was okay although nothing spectacular; Josh Taylor should beat him easily next time round.
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Conlon brave to go toe to toe with that fella.
Lopez looks different gravy.
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Okolie might end up on negative points :-) everytime McGuigan shouts ‘ref’ he takes a point off :-)
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I've turned over. Leigh Wood has started well.
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This ref is enjoying being the centre of attention-crap fight to watch tho, all the leaning and holding zzz
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Lara is very disappointing.
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I like Mcguigan but his constant screaming from the corner was embarrassing. 2 of the knock downs weren’t and it appears this ref went into the fight like one at Villa Park, itching to book Martinez. A terrible fight and any half decent boxer would beat any of these 2.
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Just got round to watching the Billam Smith v Okolie fight, the judge, who scored it a draw, should never be allowed to judge another fight.
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Just got round to watching the Billam Smith v Okolie fight, the judge, who scored it a draw, should never be allowed to judge another fight.
Yep. An absolutely shocking decision. Maybe they were watching a fight in the crowd or something.
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Lara was massively disappointing but credit to Leigh Wood and also to Sam Eggington, who's been written off so many times but is now fighting better than ever.
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Matt Windle lost last night and tonight looks like being another Eddie Hearn snoozefest.
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Is anyone else watching tonight's latest British heavyweight hopeful?
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Two cards on TV tonight and they'd barely make a decent one between them.
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It would be madness to put Dubois in the ring with Usky, since his comeback, following his defeat to Joe Joyce back in Nov 2020, he's had 4 fights, his last opponent Lerena was Ok the other 3 were 'Punch Bags', which he won with 2TKOs and 2 KOs, total fight time less than 8 mins. He probably needs at least 3 fights against decent opponents, before you should be considering a fight with Usky.
Well he is fighting Usky 26 August in Poland, my opinion hasn't changed, hope I'm wrong but there's absolutely no way can I see him beating the number one heavyweight in the world.
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Tyson Fury to fight some UFC bloke in *checks notes* Saudi Arabia. Another sport they’re intent on ruining then.
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Tyson Fury to fight some UFC bloke in *checks notes* Saudi Arabia. Another sport they’re intent on ruining then.
Be a chance for him to catch up with Stevie G and their mutal friends the Kinahans
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Saudi Arabia doesn't need to ruin boxing, it's doing a good enough job by itself.
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I'm not being funny and I know it's incredibly unlikely but I hope this bloke bangs out Fury. I'm sick of the best heavyweight boxers not fighting each other.
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It would probably be more useful if he knocks out Warren & Hearn than Fury….they chat so much BS…Warren is always saying that he is just about to announce X zzzz
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I'm not being funny and I know it's incredibly unlikely but I hope this bloke bangs out Fury. I'm sick of the best heavyweight boxers not fighting each other.
I know exactly what you mean, but that would be *such* a bad thing. It's bad enough that other combat sportspeople are able to waltz in without any amateur or career pedigree and step over boxers who have dedicated their lives to the sport.
If one of them were to beat the heavyweight champion of the world, that would do such harm to the credibility of the sport, which - as Dave and you allude to - is already doing itself no favours whatsoever.
The only time I supported Mayweather since I started following boxing was when he fought McGregor, for example.
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Saudi Arabia doesn't need to ruin boxing, it's doing a good enough job by itself.
Yep, I'm just not bothered any more. Fights that should happen, don't. The governing bodies all have their own agendas, as do the promoters and TV companies.
I don't like UFC and MMA as a sport but they are doing a better job.
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Saudi Arabia doesn't need to ruin boxing, it's doing a good enough job by itself.
Yep, I'm just not bothered any more. Fights that should happen, don't. The governing bodies all have their own agendas, as do the promoters and TV companies.
I don't like UFC and MMA as a sport but they are doing a better job.
I can't stand UFC and MMA and they're run by MAGA fascists and exploit their talent financially, even moreso than in boxing.
Saying they do it better is like praising Qatar for the speed they got their stadiums up.
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I'm not being funny and I know it's incredibly unlikely but I hope this bloke bangs out Fury. I'm sick of the best heavyweight boxers not fighting each other.
I know exactly what you mean, but that would be *such* a bad thing. It's bad enough that other combat sportspeople are able to waltz in without any amateur or career pedigree and step over boxers who have dedicated their lives to the sport.
If one of them were to beat the heavyweight champion of the world, that would do such harm to the credibility of the sport, which - as Dave and you allude to - is already doing itself no favours whatsoever.
The only time I supported Mayweather since I started following boxing was when he fought McGregor, for example.
Stop talking sense Rory, you're ruining my vibe. I've adjusted my position to hoping the next boxer he fights, if he actually fights one, bangs him out as payback for this bullshit.
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I'm not being funny and I know it's incredibly unlikely but I hope this bloke bangs out Fury. I'm sick of the best heavyweight boxers not fighting each other.
I know exactly what you mean, but that would be *such* a bad thing. It's bad enough that other combat sportspeople are able to waltz in without any amateur or career pedigree and step over boxers who have dedicated their lives to the sport.
If one of them were to beat the heavyweight champion of the world, that would do such harm to the credibility of the sport, which - as Dave and you allude to - is already doing itself no favours whatsoever.
The only time I supported Mayweather since I started following boxing was when he fought McGregor, for example.
Stop talking sense Rory, you're ruining my vibe. I've adjusted my position to hoping the next boxer he fights, if he actually fights one, bangs him out as payback for this bullshit.
That's perfectly fair enough 😁
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Saudi Arabia doesn't need to ruin boxing, it's doing a good enough job by itself.
Yep, I'm just not bothered any more. Fights that should happen, don't. The governing bodies all have their own agendas, as do the promoters and TV companies.
I don't like UFC and MMA as a sport but they are doing a better job.
I can't stand UFC and MMA and they're run by MAGA fascists and exploit their talent financially, even moreso than in boxing.
Saying they do it better is like praising Qatar for the speed they got their stadiums up.
I agree completely. Which is why it's so infuriating.
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Rory McIlroy's got it right, when he talks about sport in Saudi Arabia and the only top sportsman I can think, who says so.
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Lee McGregor's fighting on Channel 5 tonight.
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Liam Davies v Jason Cunningham might be a decent scrap tonight. Errol Spence v Terence Crawford will be one for the ages.
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Or maybe it'll be over in the first round.
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I was looking at the undercard and my eye was caught by Rowdy Montgomery. I looked him up and his middle name is Legend, which kind of ruined it for me.
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I was looking at the undercard and my eye was caught by Rowdy Montgomery. I looked him up and his middle name is Legend, which kind of ruined it for me.
What would you have there? I don't think anything can really fit, it's just a great name.
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I was looking at the undercard and my eye was caught by Rowdy Montgomery. I looked him up and his middle name is Legend, which kind of ruined it for me.
What would you have there? I don't think anything can really fit, it's just a great name.
I'd have no middle name. 'Rowdy Montgomery' is perfection in itself.
It reminds me of this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss
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Came up on my Facebook earlier:
On this day in 1972: Newry’s ‘Dangerous’ Danny McAlinden caused a shock at Villa Park when he knocked out champion Jack Bodell in the second round to claim the British and Commonwealth heavyweight titles.
Have there been any other big fights at VP?
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Came up on my Facebook earlier:
On this day in 1972: Newry’s ‘Dangerous’ Danny McAlinden caused a shock at Villa Park when he knocked out champion Jack Bodell in the second round to claim the British and Commonwealth heavyweight titles.
Have there been any other big fights at VP?
Didn't the first non-white British champion win the title at VP?
Dave W will know.
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Came up on my Facebook earlier:
On this day in 1972: Newry’s ‘Dangerous’ Danny McAlinden caused a shock at Villa Park when he knocked out champion Jack Bodell in the second round to claim the British and Commonwealth heavyweight titles.
Have there been any other big fights at VP?
Didn't the first non-white British champion win the title at VP?
Dave W will know.
Bunny Johnson - lived in Kingstanding and beat McAlinden for the title at the National Sporting Club (I think) in Mayfair. When McAlinden beat Bodell so many people got into the ring that it collapsed; Johnson fought that night as well. The only other boxing I can find at the ground was in 1948, when Randolph Turpin was on the same bill as his two brothers (Dick winning the British and Commonwealth middleweight titles). His son Randolph jr fought on the McAlinden bill.
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Came up on my Facebook earlier:
On this day in 1972: Newry’s ‘Dangerous’ Danny McAlinden caused a shock at Villa Park when he knocked out champion Jack Bodell in the second round to claim the British and Commonwealth heavyweight titles.
Have there been any other big fights at VP?
Didn't the first non-white British champion win the title at VP?
Dave W will know.
Bunny Johnson - lived in Kingstanding and beat McAlinden for the title at the National Sporting Club (I think) in Mayfair. When McAlinden beat Bodell so many people got into the ring that it collapsed; Johnson fought that night as well. The only other boxing I can find at the ground was in 1948, when Randolph Turpin was on the same bill as his two brothers (Dick winning the British and Commonwealth middleweight titles). His son Randolph jr fought on the McAlinden bill.
That's the one I was thinking of, Dave. It was an answer to a question in a pub quiz I was in years ago in Oxford. According to Wikipedia:
'On 28 June 1948, Dick Turpin, brother of Randolph Turpin, became the first non-white boxer to win a British title in a fight against Vince Hawkins in front of 40,000 spectators after the British Boxing Board of Control lifted their ban on non-whites challenging for titles.'
Could be bollocks that I've just never bothered to verify, but the question was along the lines of 'the first non-white man to be British boxing champion won the title at which sporting venue?' and the answer given was VP.
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Sorry, I thought you meant heavyweight champion. Villa Park could well be the answer.
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Sorry, I thought you meant heavyweight champion. Villa Park could well be the answer.
I've only kept it in my head because it's a nice little additional claim to fame, if true.
(Just had a daydream about Jack Johnson fighting at VP. That would've been great - and probably achievable.)
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Did anyone stay up late or get up early?
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I've only kept it in my head because it's a nice little additional claim to fame, if true.
(Just had a daydream about Jack Johnson fighting at VP. That would've been great - and probably achievable.)
I was surprised to discover that Muhammad Ali fought Alvin Lewis at Croke Park in 1972. It's the subject of a documentary, 'When Ali Came to Ireland' which first aired in 2012. It also surprised me that Ali's great-grandfather came from County Clare.
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Did anyone stay up late or get up early?
Nope, but it sounded like a procession.
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I've only kept it in my head because it's a nice little additional claim to fame, if true.
(Just had a daydream about Jack Johnson fighting at VP. That would've been great - and probably achievable.)
I was surprised to discover that Muhammad Ali fought Alvin Lewis at Croke Park in 1972. It's the subject of a documentary, 'When Ali Came to Ireland' which first aired in 2012. It also surprised me that Ali's great-grandfather came from County Clare.
Yeah, I've seen that, very good documentary. He charmed the Irish crowds better than he did the English, alright.
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I've only kept it in my head because it's a nice little additional claim to fame, if true.
(Just had a daydream about Jack Johnson fighting at VP. That would've been great - and probably achievable.)
I was surprised to discover that Muhammad Ali fought Alvin Lewis at Croke Park in 1972. It's the subject of a documentary, 'When Ali Came to Ireland' which first aired in 2012. It also surprised me that Ali's great-grandfather came from County Clare.
Yeah, I've seen that, very good documentary. He charmed the Irish crowds better than he did the English, alright.
Haven't seen the documentary, must look out for it.
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Joshua v Whyte is off. Whyte adverse drugs test.
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Joshua v Whyte is off. Whyte adverse drugs test.
For the third time. He should get a life ban.
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More positive attention for the sport...
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Eddie Hearn still hopeful of finding a replacement for Whyte.
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Eddie Hearn still hopeful of finding a replacement for Whyte.
Wilder would be okay!
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Eddie Hearn still hopeful of finding a replacement for Whyte.
Chisora's on the bill. You know what comes next.
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Eddie Hearn still hopeful of finding a replacement for Whyte.
Chisora's on the bill. You know what comes next.
Please, no.
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Gutted I like a good domestic tear up.
It’s not his first drugs failure is it?
He’s finished now , and quite rightly.
Boxing really doesn’t help itself sometimes
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Eddie Hearn still hopeful of finding a replacement for Whyte.
He’ll find some bum to fall over so he can keep the ticket / tv money. Suits him fine to take out the jeopardy of losing his cash cow fighter
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The latest name being touted is Chisora's scheduled opponent, Gerald Washington. He's had one fight in the past 3½ years and been stopped in five of his last seven BUT he does have four working limbs and a pulse.
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Sounds like a Hearn picked opponent Dave
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The latest name being touted is Chisora's scheduled opponent, Gerald Washington. He's had one fight in the past 3½ years and been stopped in five of his last seven BUT he does have four working limbs and a pulse.
A 41 yr old who has never done anything, and lost to Charles Martin. Good grief.
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Apparently Hearn will announce Joshua’s new opponent this morning…talk of Helenius (not pants down Nicolas)
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And spookily announced now
Snoozefest
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He fought last Saturday, he got demolished by Deontay Wilder a year ago. God bless Eddie.
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Another Jordan vs Hearn ding dong on talk sport
https://youtu.be/SGrPhjbIdtg
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He fought last Saturday, he got demolished by Deontay Wilder a year ago. God bless Eddie.
Bunce made an interesting point (I thought) about it potentially setting up an AJ/Wilder fight where Joshua is the clear underdog, which would make him more dangerous because it's fairly apparent over recent years that he hasn't coped with the pressure of being the favourite and the expectation of putting on a show.
Belts or not, I'd rather see AJ/Wilder than Fury/Usyk, personally. If Joshua could get through the first three or four rounds, it could be a war.
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Another complete farce at a time when boxing can ill afford it really. The seeming inability and reluctance to make fights between Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua is crippling the sport and turning fans off.
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Ironically, it's perhaps done the genuine boxing fans a favour, moving a poor PPV card into a decent regular one.
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Eddie Hearn was interviewed on TMS in one of the Ashes games, and was chuntering on about how cricket needs to market itself more effectively. A fair point possibly, but how about you help boxing get its own house in order first? It’s a farce at the moment.
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Put this in the wrong topic :-)
The likes of Hearn and Warren talk a good fight but are more interested in milking the likes of Fury & Joshua than putting them on the ring together - they’ll still sell out Wembley or Riyadh Rovers ground in 5 years time when they are both shot but they’ll have done it half a dozen times each before then
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Hrgovic is hardly setting the O2 on fire.
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Presume it’s a dazn bill Dave?
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Presume it’s a dazn bill Dave?
Indeed it is.
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Cheers - 5live it will be then :-)
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That was poor. Chisora is so shot he's almost in pieces.
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Decent punch from Joshua to put him away, but other than that, meh.
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Decent punch from Joshua to put him away, but other than that, meh.
Yeah, did what he had to do. He did seem to be getting frustrated in rds6-7, which I guess is understandable given the expectation of an early KO.
The Wilder fight might be perfect for him now, because nobody will be expecting an AJ win unless it goes to the cards or by stoppage late on. Pressure would be well and truly off, because Wilder would be a huge favourite.
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I think Wilder will batter him. If it ever happens.
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I think Wilder will batter him. If it ever happens.
You may well be right, but Joshua is a much tidier puncher than Wilder. If he can manage the space and they're both throwing punches, AJ's will get there first.
If he backs up, he's got no chance.
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He will back up though, it's what he does without fail against difficult opponents.
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He will back up though, it's what he does without fail against difficult opponents.
Yeah well if so, I'd be surprised if it went three rounds. I think he has the raw ingredients to beat him, but obviously not confident he would be able to apply them. Since the first Ruiz fight, he's looked afraid of being hit, and unless he can sort that, it would be madness to take on Wilder.
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Gal Yafai's fighting at a (presumably not very full) ICC tonight.
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And won after 1:40 of the first round.
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Anyone going for a Dubois win tonight? Bookies are offering 7/1.
It's on TNT Box Office
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It's strange how little publicity a British heavyweight fighting the legitimate world champion is getting. Usyk late on is my prediction.
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It's strange how little publicity a British heavyweight fighting the legitimate world champion is getting. Usyk late on is my prediction.
I was chatting with my Dad earlier, who is a very casual boxing fan (mainly the '70s heavyweights, but also the Eubank, Benn & Collins era). I mentioned maybe watching the fight on box office or whatever, and he seemed receptive, but then the conversation went roughly:
Him: "I thought Fury was the champ? How did this other bloke (Usyk) get three belts?"
Me: "He won them off Joshua."
Him: "So Joshua beat Fury?"
Me: "No, Fury and Joshua haven't fought."
Him: "Where did Fury get his belt?"
Me: "He beat Wilder."
Him: "Who?"
Me: "Deontay Wilder. American. He had one belt, which Fury took when he beat him."
Him: "...So Joshua beat Wilder before Fury beat him?"
Me: "No, Wilder and Joshua haven't fought."
Him: "So Wilder hasn't fought Usyk?"
Me: "No."
Him: "And Fury hasn't fought Usyk or Joshua, and Joshua hasn't fought Wilder."
Me: "Yes, but they're looking at lining up the Wilder/Joshua fight."
Him: "So the winner of that will be?..."
Me: "Erm, well, nothing, because the belts will still be held by Fury and Usyk - if Usyk wins."
Him: "Then the winner of Fury & Usyk will fight the winner of Wilder/Joshua?"
Me: "Well not necessarily, because Fury has another fight first, Usyk has to win tonight, but if those both happen, and if Joshua beats Wilder, Usyk has already beaten Joshua twice, so won't be interested, and if Wilder beats AJ, Fury has already won a trilogy against him, so won't want to bother with a fourth..."
Him: "Okay..."
Me: "Right, so-"
Him: "Oh bollocks to it, I don't care anymore."
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That was very impressive from Hamzah Sheeraz.
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Rory, did you tell him that Usyk is the WBA Super world champion and Dubois is their world champion?
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Rory, did you tell him that Usyk is the WBA Super world champion and Dubois is their world champion?
Haha, no, that'll have to wait until I've drawn up the diagram!
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It's strange how little publicity a British heavyweight fighting the legitimate world champion is getting. Usyk late on is my prediction.
I was chatting with my Dad earlier, who is a very casual boxing fan (mainly the '70s heavyweights, but also the Eubank, Benn & Collins era). I mentioned maybe watching the fight on box office or whatever, and he seemed receptive, but then the conversation went roughly:
Him: "I thought Fury was the champ? How did this other bloke (Usyk) get three belts?"
Me: "He won them off Joshua."
Him: "So Joshua beat Fury?"
Me: "No, Fury and Joshua haven't fought."
Him: "Where did Fury get his belt?"
Me: "He beat Wilder."
Him: "Who?"
Me: "Deontay Wilder. American. He had one belt, which Fury took when he beat him."
Him: "...So Joshua beat Wilder before Fury beat him?"
Me: "No, Wilder and Joshua haven't fought."
Him: "So Wilder hasn't fought Usyk?"
Me: "No."
Him: "And Fury hasn't fought Usyk or Joshua, and Joshua hasn't fought Wilder."
Me: "Yes, but they're looking at lining up the Wilder/Joshua fight."
Him: "So the winner of that will be?..."
Me: "Erm, well, nothing, because the belts will still be held by Fury and Usyk - if Usyk wins."
Him: "Then the winner of Fury & Usyk will fight the winner of Wilder/Joshua?"
Me: "Well not necessarily, because Fury has another fight first, Usyk has to win tonight, but if those both happen, and if Joshua beats Wilder, Usyk has already beaten Joshua twice, so won't be interested, and if Wilder beats AJ, Fury has already won a trilogy against him, so won't want to bother with a fourth..."
Him: "Okay..."
Me: "Right, so-"
Him: "Oh bollocks to it, I don't care anymore."
😂 He's not wrong.
If anyone could point me in the direction of a small, river-like flow of water that'd be spiffing.
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Didn't look low that. Dubois doing OK here.
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That was never a low blow this should be all over now.
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Dubois was robbed, punch was perfectly legal.
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Horse. Shit.
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Wrong decision maybe but no saying what would have happened had it been ruled as a knockdown. Usyk could have got up before the count and still won.
Who cares. Usyk 8)
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No way in a million years would the referee let Dubois get away with that one.
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Okay I have mellowed on this now, some angles do make it look lower than I thought. I also didn't realise some rules (depending on your country) mention 'below the naval' being illegal. In reference to how high Usyk has his shorts someone said "what chest size are his shorts?" which amused me. Also yeah, Usyk probably would have beaten the count if there had been one, will never know for sure.
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Okay I have mellowed on this now, some angles do make it look lower than I thought. I also didn't realise some rules (depending on your country) mention 'below the naval' being illegal. In reference to how high Usyk has his shorts someone said "what chest size are his shorts?" which amused me. Also yeah, Usyk probably would have beaten the count if there had been one, will never know for sure.
He was really struggling at that point though. You could see he was breathing really hard and looked genuinely hurt.
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Okay I have mellowed on this now, some angles do make it look lower than I thought. I also didn't realise some rules (depending on your country) mention 'below the naval' being illegal. In reference to how high Usyk has his shorts someone said "what chest size are his shorts?" which amused me. Also yeah, Usyk probably would have beaten the count if there had been one, will never know for sure.
He was really struggling at that point though. You could see he was breathing really hard and looked genuinely hurt.
Yeah he was definitely struggling and probably would have led to him being caught by another. I still don't agree with the decision and I'd be really pissed, as he is, if I was Dubois.
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While I still believe Dubois was robbed, I have to say I was disappointed how the fight finished, Dubois was kneeling on one knee, it appeared he was just waiting for the referee to count him out, as soon as the ref counted to 10, he got up.
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Only just seen it. The low blow was a marginal but correct call, in my humble opinion.
It's not just the impact, it's the trajectory - that is coming up from below the belt, and look at the ripple in the shorts. It isn't just about whether it hit him in the gonads (clearly not) but where a fighter is expecting shots to come from, and that travelled upwards and still hit him below the belly button.
As Dave says, there was no way the ref was going to go with Dubois on any close calls, so don't give him the opportunity. An uppercut to the beltline from a taller fighter is never going to look good - due to the optics and the trajectory, it's going to look lower than it is.
Maybe Usyk dodged a knockdown and a 10-8 round, but Dubois was throwing shots to the beltline all night, and that one in particular was not a fight-winning shot, for me.
The idea that Dubois was robbed of the fight is based on one of two assumptions: that Usyk wouldn't have made the count, or; that he was so hurt, Dubois would've been able to get the stoppage in the ensuing couple of minutes.
Firstly, Usyk was not doubled-up in pain, and he is a calm fighter, so I think he saw the ref's signal and decided to take a breather. I think he would've made the count.
Secondly, Dubois did nothing for the remainder of that round. If Usyk was in as much trouble as people say, you don't shake off a serious gut shot that quickly, and Dubois showed no killer instinct.
A more interesting question for me is the actual stoppage, as mentioned by Villa Lew. It looked to me like Dubois was just too exhausted to continue.
I think there's a few sour grapes, to be perfectly honest, and suspect that if the rematch is ordered, Usyk will destroy him.
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Ricky Burns stopped Willie Limond last night and announced his retirement. Now for Liam Smith doing the same to Chris Eubank jr.
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Smith is such a niggly fighter. Always looking to hold and rub his head in, chuck the elbow. I don't like Eubank but it's 50/50 on who's more dislikable.
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Should have been stopped a lot earlier that. Smith didn't throw for the last 3 rounds, and took so many clean shots to the head he'll be feeling it for a long time.
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Ricky Burns stopped Willie Limond last night and announced his retirement. Now for Liam Smith doing the same to Chris Eubank jr.
The sage of boxing strikes again.
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That's was really odd. Smith looked totally off it from the first bell.amd Eubank like a champion fighting a no-hoper
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Ricky Burns stopped Willie Limond last night and announced his retirement. Now for Liam Smith doing the same to Chris Eubank jr.
The sage of boxing strikes again.
You weren't the only one Dave, the large majority of pundits went for a Smith win. Was expected an exciting fight, so reluctantly bought PPV, how disappointed was I, Smith hardly laid a glove on Eubank, but all credit to Eubank a superb display.
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It was clear that Smith was injured early on but credit to Eubank, who was always on top and well-controlled throughout.
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Ricky Burns stopped Willie Limond last night and announced his retirement. Now for Liam Smith doing the same to Chris Eubank jr.
The sage of boxing strikes again.
You complete idiot, Dave! How could you be so daft?
Thankfully, some of us didn't get it quite so embarrassingly wrong.
Not like I had £30 on Smith or anything...
My worst boxing bet since I put £50 on AJ to win by stoppage in the first round against Ruiz.
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Ricky Burns stopped Willie Limond last night and announced his retirement. Now for Liam Smith doing the same to Chris Eubank jr.
The sage of boxing strikes again.
You complete idiot, Dave! How could you be so daft?
Thankfully, some of us didn't get it quite so embarrassingly wrong.
Not like I had £30 on Smith or anything...
My worst boxing bet since I put £50 on AJ to win by stoppage in the first round against Ruiz.
Bloody hell that was a bold bet, what were the odds?
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Ricky Burns stopped Willie Limond last night and announced his retirement. Now for Liam Smith doing the same to Chris Eubank jr.
The sage of boxing strikes again.
You complete idiot, Dave! How could you be so daft?
Thankfully, some of us didn't get it quite so embarrassingly wrong.
Not like I had £30 on Smith or anything...
My worst boxing bet since I put £50 on AJ to win by stoppage in the first round against Ruiz.
Bloody hell that was a bold bet, what were the odds?
11/2, I think.
I wouldn't normally put that much on, but I'd just won £200 on the Euromillions, saw Ruiz's torso and thought it looked a pretty safe bet!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/66705001
I had recently seen a video on YouTube with the question of "will the uk respect my second amendment rights" which was essentially about dumb questions US people ask when travelling, I didn't realise they would actually do it. A bigger question has to be where was the gun on the way over and did the US allow him to board an international flight with it as carry on?
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Zhang at 4/5 seems a put your mortgage on it bet for tonight. He needn't bother getting changed now.
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I'm hearing Joyce has weighed in 25lbs heavier for this fight.
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Zhang at 4/5 seems a put your mortgage on it bet for tonight. He needn't bother getting changed now.
Runs to put 50p on dopey Joe!
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Zhang at 4/5 seems a put your mortgage on it bet for tonight. He needn't bother getting changed now.
Runs to put 50p on dopey Joe!
Or not, so far.
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Always thought Zhang was gonna win, but was expecting a lot better from Joyce, he was useless, looked mentally scarred from the first fight, thankfully Zhang finished the fight early, otherwise he could have done serious damage to him. Not sure, where Joyce goes from here, he's 38 now, wouldn't be surprised if he called it a day.
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Zhang could have another fight next week, did Joyce actually throw a punch? Moves around the ring at the pace of Calum Chambers
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I think that's it for Joyce now, which is a pity because for a time he was so exciting.
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It should be, he didn’t fancy that after he was tagged in 2nd round…world level is beyond his abilities, was good ride getting to his level tho
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Two bills on tonight and there might even be one decent fight.
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It was too one-sided to be decent but Jai Opetaia is a helluva boxer.
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Wood v Warrington has every ingredient for being a classic fight. Inside the ring might be a bit tasty as well.
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Blimey, how many times has Wood been down and out in a fight and just pulled out the KO out of nowhere. To be honest, he looked drained and lethargic throughout, and Warrington the better fighter, but there we go, I am not complaining.
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That finish was a bit special.
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Certainly was…Warrington nearly always good value to watch tho
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Warrington taking a 'career stutter' to a pretty impressive level, to be fair.
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I'm not 100% certain that it was a fair stoppage, though. In hindsight maybe it would have been better to give him the minute's rest and see what he was like then.
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Are any of these fights on DAZN between the online divs likely to be any good? I haven't heard of any of them other than the likes of Jake Paul..
The current fight with a guy called 'my mate Nate' is relatively entertaining.
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Are any of these fights on DAZN between the online divs likely to be any good? I haven't heard of any of them other than the likes of Jake Paul..
The current fight with a guy called 'my mate Nate' is relatively entertaining.
No. Tommy Fury is a novice who if he wasn't named Fury might one day become an Area champion, the rest are amateurs in all but pay.
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Are any of these fights on DAZN between the online divs likely to be any good? I haven't heard of any of them other than the likes of Jake Paul..
The current fight with a guy called 'my mate Nate' is relatively entertaining.
No. Tommy Fury is a novice who if he wasn't named Fury might one day become an Area champion, the rest are amateurs in all but pay.
I watched the last Tommy Fury fight when he beat Jake Paul. Dunno who KSI is though. Amazing how big this has become and how much money these clowns make, takes a set of balls to get in the ring though tbf to them.
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This is embarassing.
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Blimey Charlie , I've just watched that circus of a fight. I wouldn't be surprised , if they are both in the same dressing room having a cup of tea and a rich tea biscuit in half an hour counting their purse.
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Dozens of stewards running into the ring and bouncing round. The whole thing's totally staged and a disgrace to boxing.
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What has happened to mainstream boxing? It’s finished
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Dozens of stewards running into the ring and bouncing round. The whole thing's totally staged and a disgrace to boxing.
Exactly what I said - I’m watching it with a few mates in the pub. I was at the bar and saw it, got back to the table and everyone’s on about it “kicking off” like it wasn’t entirely pre-planned. WWE would be embarrassed.
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This has got draw and a rematch with the Fury family invading the ring and kicking off all over it.
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Fury won. What a shit show.
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Can't stand these youtubers watering down boxing . Lets face it that was like watching wrestling in the 70's. Having said that , the youtuber won that hands down.
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Fury won but it was horrible. The BBBoC should tell him that if he fights any more of these farces they'll take away his licence.
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This youtuber stuff is embarrassing.
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Can't stand these youtubers watering down boxing . Lets face it that was like watching wrestling in the 70's. Having said that , the youtuber won that hands down.
Think Eddie Hearn & Frank Warren dif a decent job of watering it down before the YouTubers arrived
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Meanwhile, real boxers continue to give everything.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/67128782
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Not being sanctimonious, but I found the number of comments on here on Saturday disappointing.
I don't blame the talentless twats fighting, but it's just not boxing, and the promoters should be ashamed.
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Tonight one of the best boxers in the country fights a past his best but still dangerous legend. They'll earn a fraction of what last week's 'boxers' got paid.
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Tonight one of the best boxers in the country fights a past his best but still dangerous legend. They'll earn a fraction of what last week's 'boxers' got paid.
Such a classy build-up, as well. Both men showing respect and not talking bollocks. (Probably why they'll be earning that 'fraction' you mentioned.)
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Tonight's Fury farce promises to be every bit as unforgettable as all the other nonsense infesting boxing these days but look at the array of legends they've got over for the fight, think how much it's cost them and you can see why Saudi are gamechangers in every sport they fancy.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tyson-fury-cristiano-ronaldo-ngannou-31301642
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Looks bloody awful, doesn't it?
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Take away the headline bout and tonight's card doesn't look bad at all.
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What time does the fight start?
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What time does the fight start?
Ringwalk at eleven.
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What time does the fight start?
Ringwalk at eleven.
Ta
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What time does the fight start?
Ringwalk at eleven.
Ta
So about midnight!
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About 10.30 by the looks of it now.
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Not my cup of tea this sort of build up but to their credit it’s a very slick production…the 5 minutes I could take.
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Well this is interesting.
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Fury is behind surely?
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Penaldo ringside
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Fury lost that hands down. Disgraceful decision . All credit to Francis Ngannou , that was a good fight.
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Total fraud. End boxing now. It’s finished.
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You couldn’t make this shit up.
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What are the odds on a rematch, 1/50?
An absolute joke of a decision.
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The Fury’s stage these stupid events they decide the results
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Only saw the last few rounds. I don’t think I saw Fury land a decent punch.
With the knockdown, surely a dubious decision?
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The whole spectacle has been nothing more than the latest humiliating debasement of the sport.
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Wrestling on World of Sport had more credibility than boxing does these days.
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Fury won. Landed more shots. No robbery whatsoever.
Still embarrassing for him though.
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Fury won. Landed more shots. No robbery whatsoever.
Still embarrassing for him though.
Indeed. At least when Mayweather fought McGregor he was 40-odd and McGregor pretty much didn't land a glove on him.
For the heavyweight champ to be knocked down and only marginally win against a bloke with no record is disgraceful.
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I'm by no means any boxing expert, but Fury just didn't take this fight seriously. His physical condition was appalling, and clearly he hadn't trained properly. He should've shown his opponent more respect.
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Boxing is an absolute mess and these crossover sideshows just water it down even more.
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The Fury’s stage these stupid events they decide the results
He was never going to.lose that last night. Already now talking about delaying the Usyk fight. The whole circus stinks to he honest.
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Fury won. Landed more shots. No robbery whatsoever.
Still embarrassing for him though.
Just watched the full fight, having skipped it live, and yeah, Fury won by 2 or 3 rounds, for me. But that was not a good look for boxing.
I hated the Mayweather/McGregor fight, but by the end of it at least McGregor looked like a decent journeyman who got skilled. He wasn't looking like a fucking debutant who lost a split decision.
Is anybody else wondering why Fury can't lose that spare tyre?
Yes he weighed almost 30 stone, but that was 6 or 7 years ago. And yes, I wouldn't look any better than Fury shirtless, but I haven't been in ten training camps since then.
I know he was never exactly Cassius Clay, but if he were maintaining the healthy lifestyle he claims he would not look about as lean as he did in the first Wilder fight. The no booze, the healthy diet, the training; simple biology dictates that he would be slimmer by now.
My apologies to body positivity, and I know everybody is blessed with different genetics and a unique metabolism, but Fury is still as fat as he is for a reason. I don't think he's anywhere near as clean-living and dedicated as he makes out.
That is his business, but when it impacts on the credibility of the sport? I'm not so keen.
Edit: credit to Ngannou though, he was excellent. The only problem being that I don't want the boxing heavyweight champion of the world to make a novice look excellent.
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Knockout of the year contender just happened on DAZN.
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If anyone's thinking of watching this one Joe Cordina is making hard work of a fight he started as 1/12 favourite
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And won by wider scores than he deserved.
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And won by wider scores than he deserved.
Was it another Hearn scorecard?
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116 x 2 and 114-114. I had it 115-113, so not a massive robbery but it was still a bit smelly. I think the reason why there will be such a furore is what Tony Bellew said - like the Fury fight last week, if a boxer does much better than expected it doesn't mean he necessarily won.
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Will anyone be bothering tonight?
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It’s interesting that Joshua’s nice guy image is very much gone now. He spends a lot of time getting riled up.
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Boxing from Wolverhampton tonight, Adam Azim topping the bill, on Sky Main Event, also boxing from Manchester, on TNT Sports 2. You're spoilt for choice boxing fans and amazingly neither PPV!
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Two good televised cards on the same night. Only boxing can be so bloody stupid.
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Yeah stupid, in Manchester Liam Davies has just stopped his opponent in the 5th round, while in Wolverhapton Azim finally finished off Petitjean in the 10th, having won every round.
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That Davies fight was a great scrap while it lasted and a good stoppage. Nick Ball is showing how good and bad he can be.
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Kal Yafai had a fight at the weekend. He got stopped in the first round and announced his retirement.
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Must admit I thought he’d long stopped fighting
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Must admit I thought he’d long stopped fighting
He pretty much gave up after he lost his world title; I think he'd had one fight in three years before that last one. It's a shame that he was so overlooked but it showed that Birmingham isn't a boxing city.
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Absolutely, arguably in his hey day he was pound for pound as good as any fighter in Britain yet the likes of Brook, Khan & even journeymen (well not really journeymen) like Warrington & the Smith clan got more of the publicity
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Anybody got a river for tonight?
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Anybody got a river for tonight?
You're best off using Google. Reddit boxing streams usually gives you a choice.
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Katie Taylor wins majority decision.
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Draw, 98-92,96-94.
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Other judge scored it a draw.
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Has anyone been watching tonight?
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Lewis Crocker did well beating Tyrone McKenna. Now for the main event.
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Which was another upset.
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Anyone watching Chris Billam-Smith win tonight?
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Switched on in time for the fight
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It's certainly not panning out as expected so far.
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And certainly didn't end as expected. What in the name of everything happened there?
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He was surely miles behind on the cards…got out of jail there
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Not sure I’d fancy being smashed in the ribs if they are injured
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Not sure I’d fancy being smashed in the ribs if they are injured
You're not fighting for a world title and up on points. It was inexcusable.
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Guess he could have come out swinging, didn’t seem to be arguing with his corner over it all though
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Not sure I’d fancy being smashed in the ribs if they are injured
You're not fighting for a world title and up on points. It was inexcusable.
Looked like one of his ribs was poking out, I don't think they're supposed to look like that.
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Tonight looks like a promising end to the year.
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Scorecard I've just seen has Parker winning every round after 8 against Wilder and Parker nearly just finished it in the 8th. Surely they can't cook the books with the scorecards here if it goes the distance.
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Clear and obvious win for Parker on points so far. Two minutes for Wilder to knock him out.
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118-110 at the very least.
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I think it was so blatant that they couldn't fiddle the scorecards there. 120 - 108 on one of the cards.
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Wilder exposed completely and utterly there.
What are the odds that Joshua loses too.
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Wilder exposed completely and utterly there.
What are the odds that Joshua loses too.
Hearnonics incoming
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Parker and his team got the tactics bang on tonight, can't see Wilder boxing again.
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so it is 2am in Saudi , is it so late for the US market?
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It doesn’t seem a raucous atmosphere, is that because it is dry ?
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My streaming service seems to think the show has finished. FFS
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It doesn’t seem a raucous atmosphere, is that because it is dry ?
I don't think they have a horse in the race, just want to be there.
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Can't see the AJ fight going the distance, looks so one sided.
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Well done to Wallins team for stopping the fight, he was taking some punishment without being able to land anything himself.
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That was the best Joshua has looked for a long time. Hopefully he's got rid of the demons.
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Very surprised by Wilder losing to Parker. Joshua v Hrgovic could be a good fight.
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You have to say he'd propelled himself into the reckoning again this year, and by that I mean he looks like he wants to fight.
His career had started to look a little Audley.
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Very surprised by Wilder losing to Parker. Joshua v Hrgovic could be a good fight.
Wilder might be out of the picture now, so surely all roads should be leading to Fury v Joshua. Fury beats Usyk in February and then a big summer fight with Joshua.
Usyk winning that fight would of course throw another spanner in the works.
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On recent showings Usyk would beat them all.