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Title: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on December 20, 2022, 10:15:32 AM
The contenders

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/63887059
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: lovejoy on December 20, 2022, 10:16:33 AM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: OzVilla on December 20, 2022, 10:28:34 AM
No Matt Fitzpatrick? So is it just sports the BBC cover then.

Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on December 20, 2022, 10:34:09 AM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

But it is never "purely on sport" and the man himself as distanced himself from SPOTY in the past so........
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on December 20, 2022, 11:17:17 AM
Ben Stokes or Beth Mead
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Chris Smith on December 20, 2022, 11:19:56 AM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I think the word “personality” means that it’s not purely on sport.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: manic-road on December 20, 2022, 11:22:19 AM
I think Ben Stokes is a shoe in.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: paul_e on December 20, 2022, 12:06:20 PM
Gotta be Stokes, the turnaround in the team has bene incredible.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 20, 2022, 12:20:41 PM
No Matt Fitzpatrick? So is it just sports the BBC cover then.



Ben Stokes?
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 12:46:57 PM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I think the word “personality” means that it’s not purely on sport.

No, it doesn't. It's just a way of avoiding saying "sportsman" or "sportswoman" as the awards date to before "sportsperson" was the standard neutral term.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 12:48:02 PM
I think Ben Stokes is a shoe in.

He isn't. Beth Mead is at odds of 1/25.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 12:49:08 PM
Anyway, can we please have Jon Crofts complaining that it should be a cyclist? It's tradition, FFS. ☹️
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: lovejoy on December 20, 2022, 12:54:16 PM
Anyway, can we please have Jon Crofts complaining that it should be a cyclist? It's tradition, FFS. ☹️
Pidcock
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: lovejoy on December 20, 2022, 12:56:05 PM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I think the word “personality” means that it’s not purely on sport.

So you are thinking Beth mead is more of a personality then Fury?
To be honest this went from my favourite tv show to not watching once they gave it to giggs as a lifetime achievement award - that worked out well.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Simon Page on December 20, 2022, 01:01:21 PM
Anyway, can we please have Jon Crofts complaining that it should be a cyclist? It's tradition, FFS. ☹️
Pidcock

Those saddles are a deathtrap.

No anglers again I see. Bloody woke BBC, still refusing to recognise bear-baiting and squirrel-taunting as legitimate sports.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 01:08:11 PM
Anyway, can we please have Jon Crofts complaining that it should be a cyclist? It's tradition, FFS. ☹️
Pidcock

Okay, I was only asking. ☹️
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Risso on December 20, 2022, 01:11:24 PM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I'm a fan of Fury, but this year he's beaten Dillian White and Derek Chisora (for a third time). Nothing remotely special about that.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: dave shelley on December 20, 2022, 01:23:05 PM
No mention of gymnast Joe Fraser.  Travesty.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 01:32:05 PM
Would like to see Eve Muirhead win it but it's difficult for any Winter Olympian to get a look in when the awards are handed out ten months after the games.

Ben Stokes is a deserved contender, but the England cricket team have won global tournaments more than once before in recent memory, whereas no England football team had won anything of note for nearly sixty years before this summer. So, Beth Mead seems a perfectly fair choice, assuming she wins.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 20, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
Anyway, can we please have Jon Crofts complaining that it should be a cyclist? It's tradition, FFS. ☹️
Pidcock

Those saddles are a deathtrap.

No anglers again I see. Bloody woke BBC, still refusing to recognise bear-baiting and squirrel-taunting as legitimate sports.

Cos nobody does it professionally. There's no room for the Corinthian spirit any more.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on December 20, 2022, 01:47:22 PM
The omission of Grand Slam Winner Matt Fitzpatrick is a disgrace.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on December 20, 2022, 01:50:17 PM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I think the word “personality” means that it’s not purely on sport.

So you are thinking Beth mead is more of a personality then Fury?
To be honest this went from my favourite tv show to not watching once they gave it to giggs as a lifetime achievement award - that worked out well.

So you missed the other year when they nominated Fury, he threatened to sue them before stating he wouldn't attend. So why would they include him this year?
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 02:43:47 PM
The omission of Grand Slam Winner Matt Fitzpatrick is a disgrace.

Struggling to see who he would replace in the list, tbh. If he'd won the whole Grand Slam, fair enough. Winning one of the four isn't particularly unusual for UK players, it's happened nine times since 2009.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Chris Smith on December 20, 2022, 03:11:09 PM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I think the word “personality” means that it’s not purely on sport.

So you are thinking Beth mead is more of a personality then Fury?
To be honest this went from my favourite tv show to not watching once they gave it to giggs as a lifetime achievement award - that worked out well.

I’m not a big boxing follower but Fury seems to have the personality of a nightclub bouncer.

To be honest I haven’t watched in years as I’m just not a fan of awards shows in general so don’t really care who wins it.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: lovejoy on December 20, 2022, 04:57:55 PM
I know he's go some suspect associations and views but if you are judging this purely on sport then its Tyson Fury surely.

I think the word “personality” means that it’s not purely on sport.

So you are thinking Beth mead is more of a personality then Fury?
To be honest this went from my favourite tv show to not watching once they gave it to giggs as a lifetime achievement award - that worked out well.

So you missed the other year when they nominated Fury, he threatened to sue them before stating he wouldn't attend. So why would they include him this year?

I guess I feel the award should go to the Brit who has attained the highest sporting level in their respective sport. He's undisputed heavyweight champ.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 05:41:54 PM
He is one of four champions so not "undisputed", at all. All the candidates have achieved the highest level of their sport that was possible this year (given that there was no Summer Olympics, Women's World Cup, etc). He hasn't done anything special this year, he will have a better claim next year if he beats some decent opposition.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: JB1811 on December 20, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
It can never be based on personality, as Andy Murray has won it, and he appears to have the personality of a rock.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Rory on December 20, 2022, 06:45:43 PM
It's all bollocks and I don't care who wins, but one thing I will say is that Fury's recent book on mental health is excellent for anybody looking for an accessible, practical and sympathetic but not self-pitying read on the subject.

I honestly think he could potentially save hundreds if not thousands of lives with his mental health work.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 20, 2022, 06:54:02 PM
Seems a pretty uninspiring list, it should be Ronnie O'Sullivan but it will probably be Ben Stokes.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 07:15:35 PM
It can never be based on personality, as Andy Murray has won it, and he appears to have the personality of a rock.

Seems a fairly decent chap with a dry sense of humour, IMO.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on December 20, 2022, 09:19:09 PM
If you're talking about personalities, I can think of 3 past winners, if you were to describe their good points the word 'personality' would not crop up, Ryan Giggs, Greg Rusedski and Nick Faldo.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 09:28:15 PM
Not forgetting that time they gave it to Bobby Moore. Still, he would only have nicked it otherwise.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Pat McMahon on December 20, 2022, 09:59:32 PM
It can never be based on personality, as Andy Murray has won it, and he appears to have the personality of a rock.

Seems a fairly decent chap with a dry sense of humour, IMO.

I agree, something he seems more confident in showing in latter years.

I think the only time I’ve watched SPOTY in the last 20 years was during lockdown.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2022, 10:34:34 PM
I'm not sure I've ever seen more than about two minutes of it. When Scotland win the Euros in 2024 I might watch it to see SJM get the award.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Pat McMahon on December 20, 2022, 10:41:00 PM
If Scotland win the euros in 2024 you’ll still be shitfaced in December and won’t remember how the tv works
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Risso on December 20, 2022, 10:54:48 PM

I guess I feel the award should go to the Brit who has attained the highest sporting level in their respective sport. He's undisputed heavyweight champ.

He didn't attain it this year though, he retained it by fighting a pair of nobodies. It'd be like Argentina winning their version for the next three years because they're still world champions.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 21, 2022, 08:09:24 PM
It can never be based on personality, as Andy Murray has won it, and he appears to have the personality of a rock.

Seems a fairly decent chap with a dry sense of humour, IMO.

I agree, something he seems more confident in showing in latter years.
 

I agree with CDBF and PMcM, I also like his dry sense of humour. It's also worth noting he's had to put up with Judy Murray.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on December 21, 2022, 08:59:19 PM
As expected Beth Mead won it, 2nd Ben Stokes, 3rd Eve Muirhead.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2022, 09:01:01 PM
Deserved win.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: manic-road on December 21, 2022, 09:03:08 PM
How sexist of the BBC giving a 3rd place trophy to a woman just because she's good with a broom, seriously though a deserved winner even though I thought Ben would win.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Nev on December 21, 2022, 09:27:40 PM
A deserved winner and also a rather wonderful trigger for the gammons to rage.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on December 22, 2022, 08:55:10 AM
A deserved winner and also a rather wonderful trigger for the gammons to rage.

Talking of that word, I find it funny the Gammons try to claim it is a racial slur when someone non-white uses it. Someone claimed Sanjeev Baskhar was racist last night when he used it. Strange they don't use that complaint when white people use it though.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 22, 2022, 10:45:03 AM
It can never be based on personality, as Andy Murray has won it, and he appears to have the personality of a rock.

Seems a fairly decent chap with a dry sense of humour, IMO.

I agree, something he seems more confident in showing in latter years.

I think the only time I’ve watched SPOTY in the last 20 years was during lockdown.

He's also given away all his prize money since the war started to help Ukrainian children, which is pretty decent.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on December 22, 2022, 11:15:37 AM
Messi won the World Sport Star, but they couldn't give him the trophy as they'd no idea, where he was.
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on December 23, 2022, 10:54:50 AM
I personally think Kevin Sinfield should have been a contender in the main award, given that his incredible feats raising money for MND have been in the field of sport. 
Title: Re: BBC SPOTY 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 24, 2022, 05:29:43 PM
Not for me, but it would be worth creating a new award to recognise efforts like that. They have similar with the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award in the NFL to recognise charitable endeavours.
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