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Title: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: dicedlam on October 21, 2022, 10:44:00 AM
Why are these pair still here? is it because they were down to Lange and not Gerrard?

We have been distinctively shit ever since these pair walked through the door.

I'm sorry, but the whole coaching staff around the first team squad should shoulder the blame, not just what Gerrard brought with him. 
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 21, 2022, 10:54:23 AM
You can talk all you like about Luiz and the penalty, but leaving so much space for their first goal should be stackable in itself.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: not3bad on October 21, 2022, 10:58:19 AM
Good chance they'll be gone when the new manager brings his own people in.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Three Spires Villa on October 21, 2022, 11:02:52 AM
MacPhee was already at the club when SG came, he might have been a Dean Smith appointment, who knows but SG didn’t appoint him
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: tomd2103 on October 21, 2022, 11:04:12 AM
The fact that they have already worked under two managers during their short time at the club might be telling.  I always got the impression that they weren't Dean Smith's appointments and that Gerrard had to inherit them, so wouldn't be surprised to see them staying under the new manager.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2022, 11:10:22 AM
We need somebody in charge on Sunday, to be fair.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2022, 11:18:44 AM
You can talk all you like about Luiz and the penalty, but leaving so much space for their first goal should be stackable in itself.

And that about 10 minutes before that they'd hit a corner straight to a man on the edge of the box and only a deflection had saved us
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: London Villan on October 21, 2022, 11:25:54 AM
Wasn't Danks one of the appointments that started to undermine Smith after Terry and OKelly left?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 21, 2022, 11:27:30 AM
Don't really get why we fired Neil Critchley.

Not like he was some Gerrard lieutenant and he managed Blackpool to mid table in championship last season which was a really good season for them.

Surely would've made more sense to keep him for 1-2 games rather than give these pair of jokers a chance.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nev on October 21, 2022, 11:43:42 AM
McPhee arrived under Smith but no one knows if it was Smiths decision. Either way, the then Manager altered his usual approach to incorporate long throws, some shithousing, booting it long from the KO, a high level of aggression, passing notes around and it began to fall apart. Was this down to the new set piece coach? Well Smith certainly hasn't employed any of those tactics at Norwich, nor did he before so you can put two and two together.......McPhee was active on the touchline and his input raised plenty of eyebrows and eventually Smith went.

Despite Gerrard bringing his own set piece coach McPhee was retained and gradually, once again, became the most prominent member of the backroom staff right up to the last game, giving specific instructions to the subs. However, the tactics seemingly accepted by Smith were nowhere to be seen under the new manager save for the odd Matty Cash long throw.

You can't hold this bloke responsible for our demise but he has certainly been around for all of it and while there have been a few successes, in general our set pieces have been very poor culminating in that first goal last night.

It's an oddity.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: not3bad on October 21, 2022, 11:58:51 AM
However, the tactics seemingly accepted by Smith were nowhere to be seen under the new manager save for the odd Matty Cash long throw.

What about the Luiz corners?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nev on October 21, 2022, 12:08:08 PM
However, the tactics seemingly accepted by Smith were nowhere to be seen under the new manager save for the odd Matty Cash long throw.

What about the Luiz corners?

I can't recall them being a thing under Smith, only this season and like I said there has been the odd success.

Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2022, 12:11:30 PM
However, the tactics seemingly accepted by Smith were nowhere to be seen under the new manager save for the odd Matty Cash long throw.

What about the Luiz corners?

I can't recall them being a thing under Smith, only this season and like I said there has been the odd success.



They did keep trying that long ball to the back stick, then nod it back for Danny Ings to attempt an elaborate scissor kick thing for a while after it worked that once.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 21, 2022, 12:16:42 PM
Don't really get why we fired Neil Critchley.

Not like he was some Gerrard lieutenant and he managed Blackpool to mid table in championship last season which was a really good season for them.

Surely would've made more sense to keep him for 1-2 games rather than give these pair of jokers a chance.
Exactly what I thought would be happening!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: BC Villain on October 21, 2022, 12:18:30 PM
We need somebody in charge on Sunday, to be fair.

At least we haven't got to watch MacDonald bungle his way through another caretaker stint
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 21, 2022, 12:21:56 PM
We need somebody in charge on Sunday, to be fair.

At least we haven't got to watch MacDonald bungle his way through another caretaker stint

I still think we'd have given him the job full time if Newcastle 6-0 hadn't happened. That first caretaker spell wasn't too bad in terms of points.

Second time he did it he was miles out of touch and then the youth system alleged abuse reared up.

It's a shame Boateng and Delaney have both left the club in last 6 months as even putting those two in charge for a couple of games and people would get behind it.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nev on October 21, 2022, 12:24:06 PM
We need somebody in charge on Sunday, to be fair.

At least we haven't got to watch MacDonald bungle his way through another caretaker stint

I still think we'd have given him the job full time if Newcastle 6-0 hadn't happened. That first caretaker spell wasn't too bad in terms of points.

Second time he did it he was miles out of touch and then the youth system alleged abuse reared up.

It's a shame Boateng and Delaney have both left the club in last 6 months as even putting those two in charge for a couple of games and people would get behind it.

The Delaney departure still rankles with me, almost done for the sake of it to get the managers man in rather than in the interest of the club.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: London Villan on October 21, 2022, 12:49:05 PM
Or Eric (free-hit) Black play some of the worst ever football I've seen in 40 year of attending Villa Park.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Clampy on October 21, 2022, 01:07:49 PM
Danks and McPhee sounds like a crap detective series.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2022, 01:11:53 PM
Danks and McPhee sounds like a crap detective series.

One is quiet and diligent, the other is a loose cannon with a heart of gold
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: simon ward 50 on October 21, 2022, 01:17:41 PM
I can't help feeling Nanny MacPhee would be a better option!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 21, 2022, 01:37:08 PM
Wasn't Danks one of the appointments that started to undermine Smith after Terry and OKelly left?
John Percy has suggested Aaron Danks, was sidelined by Gerrard.

Ashley Preece said on Aaron Danks
 "I got a call late last night wanting me to return back to the training ground to inform me to step forward & lead the team across the next couple of days. I'm a local lad. I'll have friends and family in all 4 corners of the stadium. #avfc fans will be huge for us"

Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: CT Villan on October 21, 2022, 01:44:17 PM
I'm hoping to see Cutler more involved on the sideline now. I used to really enjoy watching his enthusiasm during Deano's reign.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 21, 2022, 01:49:02 PM
Danks and McPhee sounds like a crap detective series.

One is quiet and diligent, the other is a loose cannon with a heart of gold

Like all TV detectives, they each have a personality quirk.

Danks has a 50 year old Citroen 2cv which he calls 'Dolly' and sleeps in, as his wife kicked him out last year but he's kept it under his hat.

MacPhee is actually entirely a figment of Danks' imagination.

Like Chuffy in Armstrong and Miller. But nobody will remember that.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: not3bad on October 21, 2022, 02:00:51 PM
Danks and McPhee sounds like a crap detective series.

One is quiet and diligent, the other is a loose cannon with a heart of gold

Like all TV detectives, they each have a personality quirk.

Danks has a 50 year old Citroen 2cv which he calls 'Dolly' and sleeps in, as his wife kicked him out last year but he's kept it under his hat.

MacPhee is actually entirely a figment of Danks' imagination.

Like Chuffy in Armstrong and Miller. But nobody will remember that.

I was going to down the Kidergarten Cop route for MacPhee. In line with being a Nanny,
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ad@m on October 21, 2022, 02:10:08 PM
How Nanny McPhee keeps surviving is a mystery.  He must have some seriously incriminating stuff on Purslow!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Scott Nielsen on October 21, 2022, 02:14:40 PM
Wasn't Danks one of the appointments that started to undermine Smith after Terry and OKelly left?
John Percy has suggested Aaron Danks, was sidelined by Gerrard.

Ashley Preece said on Aaron Danks
 "I got a call late last night wanting me to return back to the training ground to inform me to step forward & lead the team across the next couple of days. I'm a local lad. I'll have friends and family in all 4 corners of the stadium. #avfc fans will be huge for us"


I don't think that is was he is suggesting, no.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: algy on October 21, 2022, 02:58:56 PM
Don't really get why we fired Neil Critchley.

Not like he was some Gerrard lieutenant and he managed Blackpool to mid table in championship last season which was a really good season for them.

Surely would've made more sense to keep him for 1-2 games rather than give these pair of jokers a chance.
Exactly what I thought would be happening!
Yeah, I'd expected Critchley to hang around a bit longer too.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: eamonn on October 21, 2022, 05:21:02 PM
However, the tactics seemingly accepted by Smith were nowhere to be seen under the new manager save for the odd Matty Cash long throw.

What about the Luiz corners?

Yes, if we are to bid adieu to McPhee now that Kasabian are touring again, I'll forever be thankful to Nanny for those wondrous corners. Not seen the like since the days of Stan Staunton.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Duncan Shaw on October 21, 2022, 05:55:16 PM
Danks was good in his presser
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1583430036354392064
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: The Charmer on October 21, 2022, 06:00:06 PM

MacPhee is actually entirely a figment of Danks' imagination.

Like Chuffy in Armstrong and Miller. But nobody will remember that.
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Remember it well Paulie  -  Blimey, that's over 20 years ago
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ian. on October 21, 2022, 06:02:13 PM
Dream team.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2022, 06:19:08 PM
Together they look like a before and after picture of when somebody's given a homeless person a makeover
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 21, 2022, 08:06:34 PM
Don't really get why we fired Neil Critchley.

Not like he was some Gerrard lieutenant and he managed Blackpool to mid table in championship last season which was a really good season for them.

Surely would've made more sense to keep him for 1-2 games rather than give these pair of jokers a chance.
Exactly what I thought would be happening!
Yeah, I'd expected Critchley to hang around a bit longer too.

Critchley is absolutely Gerrard's man - they worked together at Liverpool.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 21, 2022, 08:08:04 PM
MacPhee keeps surviving the sack - how the fuck is he doing it? he's a waste of space.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Drummond on October 21, 2022, 08:12:26 PM
You can talk all you like about Luiz and the penalty, but leaving so much space for their first goal should be stackable in itself.

Yep it's just one thing on top of another.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Flamingo Lane on October 21, 2022, 09:29:15 PM
Such indiscipline is simply not palletable.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: jwarry on October 23, 2022, 11:25:03 AM
Just noticed that Danks is a shi*** fan.  Will have to forgive him whilst he has his 15 mins of fame
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: john e on October 23, 2022, 12:42:20 PM
Just noticed that Danks is a shi*** fan.  Will have to forgive him whilst he has his 15 mins of fame

Who ?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: eamonn on October 23, 2022, 12:57:23 PM
BMI Baby Blue
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Lescottstweets on October 23, 2022, 01:55:36 PM
WTF is the point in MacPhee? I’m sure Set Piece Coach is a made up job title. Like a Waterboy it’s given as a ‘pity job role’ to the special lad.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: nigel on October 23, 2022, 02:34:42 PM
Just noticed that Danks is a shi*** fan.  Will have to forgive him whilst he has his 15 mins of fame

So they’ve a Villa fan getting them going
Likewise it’s taken one of them to start us up this season
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ger Regan on October 23, 2022, 02:42:10 PM
WTF is the point in MacPhee? I’m sure Set Piece Coach is a made up job title. Like a Waterboy it’s given as a ‘pity job role’ to the special lad.
Considering we scored from a set piece routine today I would have thought the point was fairly obvious
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 23, 2022, 02:45:03 PM
If these two and Big Cuts can manage the football side for a short while we can get the next manager in without getting frantic about it. So far so good
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ger Regan on October 23, 2022, 02:53:22 PM
Is MacPhee on the bench today, i haven't noticed him.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 23, 2022, 03:05:54 PM
Is MacPhee on the bench today, i haven't noticed him.
yes
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Tayls_7 on October 23, 2022, 04:13:52 PM
I spotted him. He was talking intimately to a clipboard for some reason.  It wasn't even an attractive clipboard from what I could see.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: paul_e on October 23, 2022, 04:17:18 PM
Credit to McPhee, the routine for Baileys goal was superb.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 23, 2022, 04:26:44 PM
He was lapping it up at the end. Fair play!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ian. on October 23, 2022, 04:38:54 PM
I said this yesterday….Dream Team!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: DB on October 23, 2022, 04:48:04 PM
I wonder how .any of McPhee's ideas we shut down by the unimaginative coaches
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: adrenachrome on October 23, 2022, 04:52:17 PM
Credit to McPhee, the routine for Baileys goal was superb.

Yes, it was great to see. Doug had been zinging the corners in to great effect, so Brentford weren't ready for the short ball.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: not3bad on October 23, 2022, 05:37:39 PM
I always thought Danks and Macphee deserved a go. Glad my suspicions were proven correct.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: TonyD on October 23, 2022, 06:03:41 PM
Is he a Villa fan?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nii Lamptey on October 23, 2022, 06:04:44 PM
Is he a Villa fan?
Think he's a bluenose
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Lescottstweets on October 23, 2022, 06:09:32 PM
WTF is the point in MacPhee? I’m sure Set Piece Coach is a made up job title. Like a Waterboy it’s given as a ‘pity job role’ to the special lad.
Considering we scored from a set piece routine today I would have thought the point was fairly obvious

It’s worked once all season, not really earning a wage is he.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 23, 2022, 06:24:00 PM
Is he a Villa fan?
Think he's a bluenose

He is a blue.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: astonvilla82 on October 23, 2022, 06:54:51 PM
With super Macphee was it a case with Gerrard that he didn't want his input at all
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ger Regan on October 23, 2022, 07:09:31 PM
WTF is the point in MacPhee? I’m sure Set Piece Coach is a made up job title. Like a Waterboy it’s given as a ‘pity job role’ to the special lad.
Considering we scored from a set piece routine today I would have thought the point was fairly obvious

It’s worked once all season, not really earning a wage is he.
Well that's also untrue. The southampton goal came from a set piece routine, Doug's goal against arsenal, and i'm sure there were others.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: colin69 on October 23, 2022, 07:40:27 PM
Really impressed with the Danks interview after the game. He’s clearly a very good coach and I hope he gets to stay on with whoever comes in along with Cutler and maybe even McPhee.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LeeB on October 23, 2022, 08:43:34 PM
Really impressed with the Danks interview after the game. He’s clearly a very good coach and I hope he gets to stay on with whoever comes in along with Cutler and maybe even McPhee.

I've just watched that and came here to say the same. Plus, I know it's not important in the grand scheme but it was nice to hear a Brummie accent talking about a great win again, even if he is from the dark side
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: astonvilla82 on October 23, 2022, 10:12:59 PM
Is he a Villa fan?
Think he's a bluenose
Yardley way, that will irritate someone from the dark side
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2022, 11:12:47 PM
Really impressed with the Danks interview after the game. He’s clearly a very good coach and I hope he gets to stay on with whoever comes in along with Cutler and maybe even McPhee.

I've just watched that and came here to say the same. Plus, I know it's not important in the grand scheme but it was nice to hear a Brummie accent talking about a great win again, even if he is from the dark side

I just loved the last line where he says he's knackered after the last few days but will be in there tomorrow morning. He gave it his best, Nose or not, he gave it his best. Respect.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 24, 2022, 12:57:50 AM
Funny how the current interim manager and the bloke who oversees our academy are both noses.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: tomd2103 on October 24, 2022, 01:23:50 AM
Funny how the current interim manager and the bloke who oversees our academy are both noses.

And the current Blues manager is a Villa fan!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 24, 2022, 11:32:19 AM
Funny how the current interim manager and the bloke who oversees our academy are both noses.

And the current Blues manager is a Villa fan!
Funny how the current interim manager and the bloke who oversees our academy are both noses.

Obviously not proper Blues or whatever they say.  One thing that struck me when we got the first goal was the team running to the bench. These coaches have respect from the players. Haven’t seen that for a while. Would love to know what the players thought of SG and his coaching staff.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 24, 2022, 08:11:49 PM
No Emery until 1st November so Danks still in charge for Newcastle, presumably.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 24, 2022, 08:22:01 PM
No Emery until 1st November so Danks still in charge for Newcastle, presumably.

That's fine, when we batter them it'll just give Dick a better platform to build from.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nev on October 24, 2022, 08:22:06 PM
Will McPhee stay?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Beard82 on October 24, 2022, 08:28:50 PM
Think they both stay.  Seem to be club employees rather than linked to a manager
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 24, 2022, 08:29:38 PM
No idea. If the set pieces are more like they were against Brentford than Fulham, he's welcome to.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 24, 2022, 08:31:20 PM
Clean slate for everybody I think.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: dave shelley on October 24, 2022, 08:52:20 PM
If yesterday was proof of their true abilities then they both deserve to keep their positions.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ian. on October 24, 2022, 08:58:21 PM
Maybe the double pivot and wingers wasn’t down to these two after all? Not that I want to take credit away from these, bust sacking a manager and having one employed so quickly who play this way, makes me wonder if we had sounded out Emery already.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 24, 2022, 09:02:27 PM
So a manager literally phoning it in was better than Gerrard.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 24, 2022, 09:05:02 PM
Maybe the double pivot and wingers wasn’t down to these two after all? Not that I want to take credit away from these, bust sacking a manager and having one employed so quickly who play this way, makes me wonder if we had sounded out Emery already.

Nah, I think it was totally down to Danks and whoever else was around this week. Even if the owners had been having conversations with Emery for a while it's doubtful that he'd know enough at this stage to be picking the team like that.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 24, 2022, 09:08:15 PM
Danks for the Emery.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Somniloquism on October 24, 2022, 09:12:02 PM
Maybe the double pivot and wingers wasn’t down to these two after all? Not that I want to take credit away from these, bust sacking a manager and having one employed so quickly who play this way, makes me wonder if we had sounded out Emery already.

Yep, does add extra layers to that decision now. Look we do have players who can play like that if these others are dropped.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Clampy on October 24, 2022, 09:20:26 PM
I hope they both stick around under the new regime. Mr Wakeman gets a bit of stick on here but not every set piece is going to work like perfection.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nev on October 24, 2022, 09:54:30 PM
"Big Cutts" was very much to the fore yesterday, at least as much as McPhee.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Walmley_Villa on October 25, 2022, 09:24:25 AM
To be fair to Nanny and the other coaches we have no idea if SG took their advice/recommendations? Looking at the freedom they played with on Sunday I get the feeling SG was very controlling and the players were playing with fear?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: algy on October 25, 2022, 09:31:37 AM
I do wonder if Danks/McPhee are effectively Lange signings - bought in so that there's some continuity in the staff when the coach changes.

Given the timing of both of them coming to the club, plus the departures of ROK & Terry, it does make me wonder if Deano's days were numbered before last season began.

Either way, Danks has made a good first impression & I think the roadie gets a bit more stick on here than he actually deserves.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 25, 2022, 09:53:35 AM
"Big Cutts" was very much to the fore yesterday, at least as much as McPhee.

I noticed that too.

Contrast with Gerrard, MacAllister and Critchley who clearly enjoyed a nice sit down.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ger Regan on October 25, 2022, 10:24:36 AM
I do wonder if Danks/McPhee are effectively Lange signings - bought in so that there's some continuity in the staff when the coach changes.
Wasn't that confirmed as being the case around the time they joined?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: ozzjim on October 25, 2022, 12:26:36 PM
Ballague suggested talks started properly about a week ago.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 25, 2022, 12:29:10 PM
"Big Cutts" was very much to the fore yesterday, at least as much as McPhee.

I really hope we keep him, he's so highly rated and Martinez has said numerous times how it's great to work with him.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LeeB on October 25, 2022, 12:33:06 PM
Ballague suggested talks started properly about a week ago.

If that is the case, I know we were joking a bit about him setting the team up on Sunday but I wonder if it was a trial run, as much for him as anything to see if the players would fit his system, and being happy with the result he's agreed take it.

Probably bollocks but hey.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 25, 2022, 12:49:36 PM
"Big Cutts" was very much to the fore yesterday, at least as much as McPhee.

I really hope we keep him, he's so highly rated and Martinez has said numerous times how it's great to work with him.

When looking at Emery's trusted back room team one is a very experienced GK coach Javi Garcia so i hope there remains a place for Cutts
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: FatSam on October 28, 2022, 11:30:50 PM
Funny that Villa currently managed by a Blues fan, and Blues managed by a Villa fan.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 29, 2022, 01:36:54 PM
"Big Cutts" was very much to the fore yesterday, at least as much as McPhee.

I really hope we keep him, he's so highly rated and Martinez has said numerous times how it's great to work with him.

When looking at Emery's trusted back room team one is a very experienced GK coach Javi Garcia so i hope there remains a place for Cutts

Not sure you can have two first team goalkeeping coaches. Cutts is very highly thought of and if we were to lose him I'm sure he'll have a queue of clubs inviting him to join. Martinez has previously worked with Garcia and I did smile at Emi's Instagram post when Emery and Garcia were sacked by Arsenal; "Thank you, Unai and Javi. I'm sorry we let you down. It's out fault for not performing the right way. I'm sure we will meet again." Psychic Emi!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 29, 2022, 02:32:25 PM
I hope they both stick around under the new regime. Mr Wakeman gets a bit of stick on here but not every set piece is going to work like perfection.

I can think of three goals scored this season as a clear result of training ground set piece innovation.

That’s surely a decent percentage of goals we’ve scored this season.

Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: algy on October 29, 2022, 02:41:07 PM
I hope they both stick around under the new regime. Mr Wakeman gets a bit of stick on here but not every set piece is going to work like perfection.

I can think of three goals scored this season as a clear result of training ground set piece innovation.

That’s surely a decent percentage of goals we’ve scored this season.
I agree. It's going to take time, but you'd already say that we look more dangerous from corners, if only because Dougie might score from one (as others have said, something that we've missed since Stan left!)

Think Danks/McPhee/Cutts are a decent threesome to keep continuity in the backroom staff
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Ger Regan on October 29, 2022, 04:07:53 PM
Probably not deserving of a thread in its own right, but i really hope we sack our medical staff. Absolutely idiotic with Emi, and it's not been the first time, either.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 29, 2022, 04:43:40 PM
Why are British managers always so slow to make changes?

We have it with Southgate at world cups, DS and Gerrard weren't great at all at tweakings things when games were in the balance and now we make changes when we're 3-0 down ffs.

This is one of the things I'm most looking forward to under Emery. Someone who will make 1-2 changes early second half or even at half time when we're drawing or narrowly losing.

Real bugbear of mine. Inexplicable when you have 5 subs in play aswell.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 29, 2022, 04:52:12 PM
It’s very possible these two might not be needed much after Tuesday
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 29, 2022, 05:09:43 PM
He’s gorra go Tom.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 29, 2022, 05:24:42 PM
Hi 1152 Xtra AM.

Danks out.

Kind Regards
Vernon.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: BC Villain on October 29, 2022, 09:39:48 PM
Emery must be ruthless with the coaching staff as well.  Danks, McPhee and Cutler need the push ASAP.  None of them are fit for purpose. 

Cutler always gets a good press, but Martinez's form has regressed over the last eighteen months under his "coaching"
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 29, 2022, 10:06:45 PM
From his post match comments he almost seemed to be glad to be out of it to be honest.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: LukeJames on October 29, 2022, 10:09:42 PM
I got that impression as well. He doesn't seem comfortable in front of the camera at all.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Legion on October 29, 2022, 11:21:25 PM
Neither are very popular or rated. Cutler is falling in to those categories as well.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Mellin on October 30, 2022, 12:13:48 AM
Only so many coaching staff you can work through until you start looking elsewhere.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: tomd2103 on October 30, 2022, 12:23:30 AM
Hi 1152 Xtra AM.

Danks out.

Kind Regards
Vernon.

You forgot to ask for a bronx hat.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: eamonn on October 30, 2022, 01:51:21 AM
From his post match comments he almost seemed to be glad to be out of it to be honest.

Yeah - also came across that he assumed he'd go back to a coaching role at the club. He mentioned something about that being his original brief as part of our "project" or similar.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Scott Nielsen on October 30, 2022, 04:43:21 AM
Cutler always gets a good press, but Martinez's form has regressed over the last eighteen months under his "coaching"

I agree Emi's form has regressed. If a change of coach can turn that around, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 30, 2022, 06:46:04 AM
I’m not attached to anyone at our club at the moment. So if Emery wants to bin them all players or coaches then let it be.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: adrenachrome on October 30, 2022, 09:28:56 PM
I’m not attached to anyone at our club at the moment. So if Emery wants to bin them all players or coaches then let it be.

Speaking words of wisdom.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Louzie0 on October 30, 2022, 10:47:17 PM
I’m not attached to anyone at our club at the moment. So if Emery wants to bin them all players or coaches then let it be.

Speaking words of wisdom.

And the night is cloudy.

Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: olaftab on October 30, 2022, 11:14:47 PM
‘Let it be, let it be’
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: brian green on October 30, 2022, 11:30:09 PM
"Mr Dimsdale! Mr Dimsdale!"   Words of Norman Wisdom.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 30, 2022, 11:35:23 PM
Spesking words of wisdom, Emery, Emery.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Louzie0 on October 31, 2022, 12:15:01 AM
"Mr Dimsdale! Mr Dimsdale!"   Words of Norman Wisdom.

Big in Albania, I understand.
And why not? ( Philip Jenkinson, BBC)
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 31, 2022, 09:18:08 AM
"Mr Dimsdale! Mr Dimsdale!"   Words of Norman Wisdom.

Big in Albania, I understand.
And why not? ( Philip Jenkinson, BBC)
It not as big as pyramid schemes,crime, corruption and people smuggling.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: chrisw1 on October 31, 2022, 09:24:10 AM
He had an incredibly difficult job to take on two games with such little prep time when we were in freefall.  I think 3 points is ahead of what most of us would have expected if Gerrard has stayed, so despite Saturdays shitshow I still think he did ok.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 31, 2022, 09:25:21 AM
I’m not attached to anyone at our club at the moment. So if Emery wants to bin them all players or coaches then let it be.


A full 180° turn from where I felt just 24 short months ago. So much of what was rebuilt has been demolished again in such a short space of time.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 31, 2022, 04:30:15 PM
Quote
Aston Villa can confirm that Goalkeeping Coach Neil Cutler has left the club.

Aaron Danks will be leaving the first-team set-up and is considering a new role within the club. Austin MacPhee will remain as part of the coaching staff.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1587119329576976385?s=20&t=ufRzkS0xntvy_9b0oskGMA

MacPhee = indestructible.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Bad English on October 31, 2022, 04:36:46 PM
Macphee is like Jesus of Nazareth.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Demitri_C on October 31, 2022, 04:40:57 PM
Cutler seemed like a good bloke. Best of luck to him. Probably for the best we need a complete clean sweep as we have been under acheiving for too long.

Suprised mcphee has kept his role though
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 31, 2022, 04:45:34 PM
Macphee is like Jesus of Nazareth.

Jesus of fucking Nazareth


(https://thane62.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/inbruges7.jpg?w=508&h=221)
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: TheMalandro on October 31, 2022, 04:48:13 PM
Macphee is like Jesus of Nazareth.

Our own personal Jesus.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Duncan Shaw on October 31, 2022, 04:48:23 PM
Shame about Big Cuts
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on October 31, 2022, 04:49:53 PM
"Mr Dimsdale! Mr Dimsdale!"   Words of Norman Wisdom.

Hi Brian ..... I think it was Mr Grimsdale :)

Cheers

VCTM
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Nev on October 31, 2022, 04:51:32 PM
I do not believe it!

The Afghan Hound rides again!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: chrisw1 on October 31, 2022, 04:57:44 PM
I wonder if Danks will be offered the youth set up as that seems to have started to struggle recently.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: SaddVillan on October 31, 2022, 04:59:19 PM
Guess McPhee must have shown Emery a looped video of last week's corner kick routine and Dougie's Olimpico goals.

Because he obviously hasn't got a clue about defending corners or free-kicks into the box.

Or getting anybody on the end of a corner into the penalty area.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 31, 2022, 05:07:22 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 31, 2022, 05:15:10 PM
Well Emi seems very sad about him leaving.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2022, 05:18:04 PM
Ten years from now, as nuclear war and environmental catastrophe have wiped out 75% of humanity, Austin MacPhee will still be trying to teach Villa defenders how to mark an attacker at corners.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 31, 2022, 06:04:04 PM
Well Emi seems very sad about him leaving.

Emi is always sad when someone leaves.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 31, 2022, 06:07:45 PM
The last of the Deano era leaves.  Seems sad to me.  So I’m sad along with Emi.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 31, 2022, 06:15:41 PM
We need lots of change and I am all for giving Emery all the clearance he needs. We just got battered and we are just above the bottom 3. And while MacPhee might be here for now if he's not up to it, short of having pics of Purslow in a compromising position with a vicar, he'll be gone too.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Rotterdam on October 31, 2022, 06:25:54 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 31, 2022, 06:30:51 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.

Indeed. Probably the best coach we've had these last few years. Newcastle must be kicking themselves, they appointed a new first team goalkeeping coach 10 days ago.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: BC Villain on October 31, 2022, 06:39:39 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.

I've no doubt he's well respected and comes across as being a genuine guy.  However, I'm all for Emery doing what he needs to do to push us up the table.

Given the way Martinez has regressed over the last year, it doesn’t fill you with confidence that Cutler has been doing his job properly
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 31, 2022, 06:41:47 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.

I've no doubt he's well respected and comes across as being a genuine guy.  However, I'm all for Emery doing what he needs to do to push us up the table.

Given the way Martinez has regressed over the last year, it doesn’t fill you with confidence that Cutler has been doing his job properly

I’m thinking Emery needs to do whatever he wants. Give him total backing. If it means moving coaches on then so be it. Part of the game these days I guess. If he’s so highly regarded then he’ll walk into another job.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2022, 06:43:07 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.

I've no doubt he's well respected and comes across as being a genuine guy.  However, I'm all for Emery doing what he needs to do to push us up the table.

Given the way Martinez has regressed over the last year, it doesn’t fill you with confidence that Cutler has been doing his job properly

And surely the first job of your stand in goalie is to be ready if called upon? Olsen has been absolute gash, like a rabbit in the headlights.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: BC Villain on October 31, 2022, 06:51:22 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.

I've no doubt he's well respected and comes across as being a genuine guy.  However, I'm all for Emery doing what he needs to do to push us up the table.

Given the way Martinez has regressed over the last year, it doesn’t fill you with confidence that Cutler has been doing his job properly

And surely the first job of your stand in goalie is to be ready if called upon? Olsen has been absolute gash, like a rabbit in the headlights.

Exactly.  Standards have been allowed to drop on the latter stages of Smiths reign and throughout Gerrards reign (of terror).  If a new broom means removing a couple of bookends then so be it
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 31, 2022, 08:30:26 PM
I reckon McPhee is just a hard fucker and everyone is too scared to sack him. He’ll be around till the end of days, still letting Dougie take free kicks.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 31, 2022, 08:35:02 PM
It appears that Cutler only coaches Martinez.

Olsen doesn't look like any sort of goalkeeper. He's toss from what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Drummond on October 31, 2022, 11:11:38 PM
Just wondering why people are so sad (on Twitter) that Cutler has gone? Is he that good? What’s he done? Just curious.

He's very well regarded and respected by other GK coaches.

I've no doubt he's well respected and comes across as being a genuine guy.  However, I'm all for Emery doing what he needs to do to push us up the table.

Given the way Martinez has regressed over the last year, it doesn’t fill you with confidence that Cutler has been doing his job properly

And surely the first job of your stand in goalie is to be ready if called upon? Olsen has been absolute gash, like a rabbit in the headlights.

I think that's because he's shit.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 31, 2022, 11:35:57 PM
Sweden must be fucked if we have their starting GK and starting LB. Because our stand in LB isn’t exactly making Digne sweat. And I doubt if fit he’s beating out Ash.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: olaftab on November 01, 2022, 12:00:56 AM
The Swedes have a saying that everything doesn’t need to be done today, there is tomorrow.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: eamonn on November 01, 2022, 01:07:33 AM
Really? Never would have thought them as lazy (or all 8m(?) of them anyway).
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Scott Nielsen on November 01, 2022, 03:45:52 AM
The Swedes have a saying that everything doesn’t need to be done today, there is tomorrow.

Er, no. The saying is 'don't postpone until tomorrow what can be done today' (Skjut inte upp till morgondagen det du kan göra idag).

And, yes, having Robin as the national goalkeeper tells you much about the state of the national team.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 01, 2022, 09:14:11 AM
I reckon McPhee is just a hard fucker and everyone is too scared to sack him. He’ll be around till the end of days, still letting Dougie take free kicks.

If he is hard , he must be the least hard person I’ve seen since Charles Hawtrey 😂
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Drummond on November 01, 2022, 10:31:23 AM
The Swedes have a saying that everything doesn’t need to be done today, there is tomorrow.

Er, no. The saying is 'don't postpone until tomorrow what can be done today' (Skjut inte upp till morgondagen det du kan göra idag).

And, yes, having Robin as the national goalkeeper tells you much about the state of the national team.

And there was me beginning to like them!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: olaftab on November 01, 2022, 11:43:04 AM
The Swedes have a saying that everything doesn’t need to be done today, there is tomorrow.

Er, no. The saying is 'don't postpone until tomorrow what can be done today' (Skjut inte upp till morgondagen det du kan göra idag).

And, yes, having Robin as the national goalkeeper tells you much about the state of the national team.
Sorry mate but from working there for 4 years that was often said. Leaving work early to go and sail the dinghy  was much more important.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Scott Nielsen on November 01, 2022, 12:21:52 PM
The Swedes have a saying that everything doesn’t need to be done today, there is tomorrow.

Er, no. The saying is 'don't postpone until tomorrow what can be done today' (Skjut inte upp till morgondagen det du kan göra idag).

And, yes, having Robin as the national goalkeeper tells you much about the state of the national team.
Sorry mate but from working there for 4 years that was often said. Leaving work early to go and sail the dinghy  was much more important.

I think by virtue of being Swedish I can claim the authority on this one.

You might have it mixed up with "det finns alltid imorgon" (there's always tomorrow) which is something you might say when you have failed and 'you go again'.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 01, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
Grabs popcorn and takes a seat as an English bloke who has worked in Sweden battles the language against an actual Swede who speaks the language.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: olaftab on November 01, 2022, 01:42:04 PM

I think by virtue of being Swedish I can claim the authority on this one.

You might have it mixed up with "det finns alltid imorgon" (there's always tomorrow) which is something you might say when you have failed and 'you go again'.
May be so. I have no wish to argue against the historic culture and defer to you as you are supreme there, however I am absolutely certain about the workplace culture at Volvo, Torslanda PV offices in the 21st century.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: olaftab on November 01, 2022, 01:45:00 PM
Grabs popcorn and takes a seat as an English bloke who has worked in Sweden battles the language against an actual Swede who speaks the language.
Haha...means nothing these days. Traditions have been eroded behind recovery. We all have one digital culture forced upon us by Yanks.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Clark W Griswold on November 01, 2022, 01:49:30 PM
Any jobs going ?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Scott Nielsen on November 01, 2022, 01:54:28 PM
Grabs popcorn and takes a seat as an English bloke who has worked in Sweden battles the language against an actual Swede who speaks the language.
Haha...means nothing these days. Traditions have been eroded behind recovery. We all have one digital culture forced upon us by Yanks.

There's truth to that, sadly.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Rory on November 01, 2022, 02:09:12 PM
Macphee is like Jesus of Nazareth.

Jesus of fucking Nazareth


(https://thane62.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/inbruges7.jpg?w=508&h=221)

Oh, don't come over all Gandhi!
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: villadelph on November 01, 2022, 02:31:54 PM
Grabs popcorn and takes a seat as an English bloke who has worked in Sweden battles the language against an actual Swede who speaks the language.
Haha...means nothing these days. Traditions have been eroded behind recovery. We all have one digital culture forced upon us by Yanks.

It's America's fault!  ;D
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: usav on November 01, 2022, 04:03:27 PM
Grabs popcorn and takes a seat as an English bloke who has worked in Sweden battles the language against an actual Swede who speaks the language.
Haha...means nothing these days. Traditions have been eroded behind recovery. We all have one digital culture forced upon us by Yanks.

Curious as to how you think it is "forced"?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: olaftab on November 01, 2022, 09:20:20 PM
I refuse to answer that on grounds that whilst I am comfortable with being proven wrong once a day, twice a day would be humiliating😟
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Bad English on November 02, 2022, 08:13:24 AM
Curious as to how you think it is "forced"?
We are, for example, forced to listen to people who watch US TV shows and films, and then wander around calling people 'guys', having 'date night' with their children, going to the 'bathroom' for a piss, and many other abominations. It is unavoidable.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: ROBBO on November 02, 2022, 08:17:56 AM
I have a big CNN habit that I am having difficulty breaking, same news different hosts, what do I do?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 02, 2022, 09:08:20 AM
Curious as to how you think it is "forced"?
We are, for example, forced to listen to people who watch US TV shows and films, and then wander around calling people 'guys', having 'date night' with their children, going to the 'bathroom' for a piss, and many other abominations. It is unavoidable.

Worst of all, people who say “Can I get?” when ordering something.

WORSE THAN THE NAZIS.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: usav on November 02, 2022, 11:33:33 AM
Curious as to how you think it is "forced"?
We are, for example, forced to listen to people who watch US TV shows and films, and then wander around calling people 'guys', having 'date night' with their children, going to the 'bathroom' for a piss, and many other abominations. It is unavoidable.

Nobody is forcing you to do any of that.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: ROBBO on November 02, 2022, 11:52:55 AM
Can anyone explain why MacPhee has been retained?
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: brian green on November 02, 2022, 11:58:58 AM
They like making up limericks about him.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Chris Smith on November 02, 2022, 12:04:50 PM
Curious as to how you think it is "forced"?
We are, for example, forced to listen to people who watch US TV shows and films, and then wander around calling people 'guys', having 'date night' with their children, going to the 'bathroom' for a piss, and many other abominations. It is unavoidable.

Nobody is forcing you to do any of that.

Other than cutting yourself from society completely it is unavoidable.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: usav on November 02, 2022, 12:05:20 PM
Can anyone explain why MacPhee has been retained?

My guess - the only coaching position that Emery didn't have a ready-made replacement for, so possibly going to give him the rest of the season (or less) to prove himself.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: Drummond on November 02, 2022, 01:07:55 PM
Curious as to how you think it is "forced"?
We are, for example, forced to listen to people who watch US TV shows and films, and then wander around calling people 'guys', having 'date night' with their children, going to the 'bathroom' for a piss, and many other abominations. It is unavoidable.

Worst of all, people who say “Can I get?” when ordering something.

WORSE THAN THE NAZIS.

I'm sorry but that's inappropriate. They are way worse than that.
Title: Re: Danks and MacPhee
Post by: tony scott on November 02, 2022, 08:13:03 PM
On a lighter, note no link but I think Mcfee  is the keyboard player for Taylor Swift ,see tiny desk video oF Cardigan.
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