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Title: The World Cup 2022
Post by: lovejoy on September 29, 2022, 11:17:46 AM
This news story is doing the rounds today and there is fuller coverage in the Times behind the paywall and a podacast. The guy involved was well known here in Haywards Heath Sussex where I live. It is very sad for his family and I guess they are looking to highlight it in order to get some answers.

In the context of the World Cup, this is reason #14,765 why it shouldn't have gone to Qatar (and Russia before).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11260665/British-man-52-hanged-hotel-Doha-tortured-Qatars-secret-police.html

https://shows.acast.com/storiesofourtimes/episodes/death-in-qatar-what-really-happened-to-british-businessman-m

We can all shake our heads about these type of countries hosting the world cup (sportswashing) and then carry on as normal, watch the matches, see the advertising and FIFA will carry on as normal. For me I've had enough, this may well be virtue signally but I'm not going to watch the world cup this time round. I just can't do it.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: sid1964 on September 29, 2022, 12:26:22 PM
Have either of our 2 owners had any dealings with Qatar?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 29, 2022, 01:07:08 PM
Almost certainly, I'd have thought.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: olaftab on September 29, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Horrific country, horrible people, nasty government. No one should do business with them or ever go there for any reason whatsoever.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Pete3206 on September 29, 2022, 04:52:00 PM
Has anyone contacted David Beckham for comment?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Somniloquism on September 29, 2022, 05:19:42 PM
Nassef probably has worked with them being as the majority of his businesses were construction companies mainly in Africa and Middle East. He was( is?) involved with Besix who constructed at least one of the Stadiums in Qatar.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Drummond on September 29, 2022, 05:57:30 PM
I like what Hummel have done with Denmark's lit for this World Cup. I have to say I'm less than enamoured with the idea of watching it but will probably fall into it.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 29, 2022, 06:06:25 PM
I'll watch it. I like the idea of a winter World Cup and think that USA/Mexico/Canada 2026 should be moved from the summer, too. Summer is for cricket and beer gardens.

In terms of the human rights, it's on BBC and ITV which everyone has anyway. I think a more effective move than not watching would be an organised boycott of FIFA/World Cup sponsors.

https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/commercial/partners

Admittedly it may be difficult to boycott VISA. I could get an AmEx card I suppose.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 29, 2022, 06:30:08 PM
I like what Hummel have done with Denmark's lit for this World Cup.

I think it's virtue signalling guff cynically designed to sell more shirts.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Smirker on September 29, 2022, 11:22:37 PM
I'll be watching it.

I agree with everything being said about Qatar and the bid but the time to do anything was about five years ago at least. Me not watching isn't going to make a blind bit of difference and tbh I have a very boring life and this is one of the only things I look forward to.

I would have fully got behind and done what I could to stop the WC being played there but nobody seemed to give a shit until it was too late, so now that it is happening I may as well watch.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: astonvilla82 on September 30, 2022, 12:10:39 AM
I'll be watching it.

I agree with everything being said about Qatar and the bid but the time to do anything was about five years ago at least. Me not watching isn't going to make a blind bit of difference and tbh I have a very boring life and this is one of the only things I look forward to.

I would have fully got behind and done what I could to stop the WC being played there but nobody seemed to give a shit until it was too late, so now that it is happening I may as well watch.
if governments don't give a shit I don't see why the general public should, same as Russia,if they hadn't invaded the Ukraine the government would still be sucking up to Putin
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 30, 2022, 09:54:30 AM
Someone sent me a picture - which Iíve lost/deleted - of a map showing the distance between all of the venues in Qatar, superimposed over a map of the West Midlands. Essentially, the entire World Cup could fit in between Cannock and Knowle, from north to south, and from the centre of Brum to Dudley, east to west. Would be easier to share the picture than it is for me to explainÖ..

Edit- and before anyone reminds me that Cannock is in StaffsÖ.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 30, 2022, 10:00:57 AM
Sounds like it's pretty much impossible to get a hotel room without spending several thousand pounds. They are talking about turning cruise ships into floating hotels and having camp sites in the desert. Football fans + 20 lagers + cocaine + desert. What could go wrong?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: JD on September 30, 2022, 10:18:16 AM
Sounds like it's pretty much impossible to get a hotel room without spending several thousand pounds. They are talking about turning cruise ships into floating hotels and having camp sites in the desert. Football fans + 20 lagers + cocaine + desert. What could go wrong?

Death by dehydration.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on September 30, 2022, 10:23:07 AM
Sounds like it's pretty much impossible to get a hotel room without spending several thousand pounds. They are talking about turning cruise ships into floating hotels and having camp sites in the desert. Football fans + 20 lagers + cocaine + desert. What could go wrong?

I would think that cocaine will be pretty hard to get hold of out there. Good luck to anybody trying to smuggle it in. 20 years in prison is a likely sentence, and if you're a repeat offender, including offences in other countries, the death penalty is a possibility.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: JD on September 30, 2022, 10:40:36 AM
Sounds like it's pretty much impossible to get a hotel room without spending several thousand pounds. They are talking about turning cruise ships into floating hotels and having camp sites in the desert. Football fans + 20 lagers + cocaine + desert. What could go wrong?

I would think that cocaine will be pretty hard to get hold of out there. Good luck to anybody trying to smuggle it in. 20 years in prison is a likely sentence, and if you're a repeat offender, including offences in other countries, the death penalty is a possibility.

Yeah but Wayne from Manchester's excuse was that he was given the coke by a man in a club and didn't realise it was illegal.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 30, 2022, 11:41:28 AM
You could make a fortune if you know how to dye sand white.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2022, 08:57:59 PM
Sounds like it's pretty much impossible to get a hotel room without spending several thousand pounds. They are talking about turning cruise ships into floating hotels and having camp sites in the desert. Football fans + 20 lagers + cocaine + desert. What could go wrong?

I would think that cocaine will be pretty hard to get hold of out there. Good luck to anybody trying to smuggle it in. 20 years in prison is a likely sentence, and if you're a repeat offender, including offences in other countries, the death penalty is a possibility.

Yes and on a less serious side if you could get beer out in the desert those 20 lagers would cost about £300.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 30, 2022, 09:05:25 PM
One way or another, they're going on the lash.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: steamer on October 01, 2022, 07:28:46 AM
I am not a great fan of International football
This has to be the least anticipated world cup ever
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 01, 2022, 08:09:18 AM
The Russia world cup was odd in terms of traditionally well supported European nations, like England, not taking big followings whereas Peru took thousands. It was their first world cup for a long time so perhaps to be expected, even if it was a long journey for them. Leeds would have taken more of course.

I have no doubt every game will be a sellout in Qatar but I have no idea how that many people have the money and inclination to go.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2022, 08:21:34 AM
I just tried to see what kind of availability there is for tickets. They opened a sales window on Tuesday that will now stay open until the end of the tournament. Hope anyone that goes will enjoy themselves, it sounds a fun place...
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The fans who will be visiting Qatar from other parts of the world have been asked to apply for a Hayya Card (a fan id for the tournament). They can apply for the card via qatar22.qa or the Hayya to Qatar 22 mobile app. Those who have already booked one or more tickets have been asked to apply for the card by the organisers

Qatar will suspend entry of visitors in the country from November 01 till December 23 to ensure the best possible stay for football fans visiting the country for the FIFA World Cup. Only fans with approved Hayya cards and valid match tickets will be allowed to enter Qatar and enjoy other benefits like public transport on match days.

Fans with Hayya cards will be allowed to stay in the country till January 23, 2023.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Someone sent me a picture - which Iíve lost/deleted - of a map showing the distance between all of the venues in Qatar, superimposed over a map of the West Midlands. Essentially, the entire World Cup could fit in between Cannock and Knowle, from north to south, and from the centre of Brum to Dudley, east to west. Would be easier to share the picture than it is for me to explainÖ..

Edit- and before anyone reminds me that Cannock is in StaffsÖ.

It's a bit out north to south. Cannock to Worcester is more like it, about 37 miles in a straight line. According to google maps navigation, if you're there right now and fancy doing the trip, it's a 54 minute drive from Al-Khor to Al Janoub.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2022, 10:01:31 AM
Doesn't "Al" mean "The"? Why do they have to have that in front of so many place names? We don't say "The Solihull" or "The Royal Leamington Spa".
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2022, 10:31:38 AM
Doesn't "Al" mean "The"? Why do they have to have that in front of so many place names? We don't say "The Solihull" or "The Royal Leamington Spa".

You'll be questioning the gendering of French nouns next.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2022, 10:40:30 AM
That's completely pointless and I can only assume they do it to annoy foreigners.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2022, 03:22:55 PM
Doesn't "Al" mean "The"? Why do they have to have that in front of so many place names? We don't say "The Solihull" or "The Royal Leamington Spa".

Does that mean the Israeli airline is named after Matt Johnson's band?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2022, 08:15:11 PM
Someone sent me a picture - which Iíve lost/deleted - of a map showing the distance between all of the venues in Qatar, superimposed over a map of the West Midlands. Essentially, the entire World Cup could fit in between Cannock and Knowle, from north to south, and from the centre of Brum to Dudley, east to west. Would be easier to share the picture than it is for me to explainÖ..
By mentioning Cannock and Dudley you are making Qatar sound quite attractive.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on October 01, 2022, 09:15:06 PM
Was listening to a podcast and they had a bloke on who had visited Qatar as a representative of the England supporters association (or something similar). Amongst other things he said it was about £14 a pint, accommodation was scarce, any premises showing games would need an individual license for that location which are very expensive meaning that many places which you might expect to have a game on couldnít afford the license.
There are a few fan parks but one had strange opening hours and another one had longer hours and included dj sets but cost about £80 to enter.
He said generally thereís not much else to do out there but he did say that England fans travelling from here might number 5k but thereís around 100k expats in that Middle East area, places like Dubai, Saudi and Oman.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 01, 2022, 10:04:25 PM
it is staggering that a tournament that usually attracts 10s of thousands of fans is being staged in a bit of desert in the middle of nowhere, which has no sports affinity let alone anything to do with football.
This is before you get into their less than liberal attitudes towards pretty much everything that we understand as normal tolerant behavior.

It shows what sort of World we live in.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Somniloquism on October 01, 2022, 10:24:11 PM
Brown bags full of money make the world go around. Don't forget the same organisation originally decided that it would have been ok to have temperatures in the high 40's in the mix as well as all the other factors you mentioned, and that was only changed when Qatar decided they had lied about how easy it would be to cool the stadiums so can we play it in winter instead. Or take the tournament away and give us back the bribes we gave you. Hence where we are now.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: olaftab on October 02, 2022, 01:01:53 PM
Doesn't "Al" mean "The"? Why do they have to have that in front of so many place names? We don't say "The Solihull" or "The Royal Leamington Spa".
I raised this question of over use when I was learning Arabic many many years ago. My teacher was not impressed  that I did and got very annoyed that I would read a text in front of her and leave out several Als. She said other than being wrong I was being disrespectful. Reason being that prefixing a name or place with Al denoted respect. Just like The Villa. However assigning it as that made it a hostage to itself whereby not using Al implies disrespect even where it may not be necessary. Sheikh is another similar word. This is a honorary title given to a person (only to a man normally in Arabland) to recognise wisdom and knowledge they possess but overtime everyone started addressing everyone as Sheikh.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 02, 2022, 01:26:07 PM
Shukran, Sheikh Olaftab! 🙂
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2022, 03:14:00 PM
Doesn't "Al" mean "The"? Why do they have to have that in front of so many place names? We don't say "The Solihull" or "The Royal Leamington Spa".
I raised this question of over use when I was learning Arabic many many years ago. My teacher was not impressed  that I did and got very annoyed that I would read a text in front of her and leave out several Als. She said other than being wrong I was being disrespectful. Reason being that prefixing a name or place with Al denoted respect. Just like The Villa. However assigning it as that made it a hostage to itself whereby not using Al implies disrespect even where it may not be necessary.

Interesting stuff and makes more sense now. Cheers, Alaftab!
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Drummond on October 03, 2022, 02:04:56 PM
Shukran, Sheikh Al Olaftab! 🙂

ftfy
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: olaftab on October 03, 2022, 09:16:07 PM
Shukran, Sheikh Al Olaftab! 🙂

ftfy
You both are obviously on your way to mastering Arabic.  Drummond good attempt but Sheikh Olaftab Al Brummie would be better. :)
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 03, 2022, 09:34:21 PM
Surely it should be eimmurB lA batfalO hkiehS
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Monty on November 03, 2022, 10:33:15 AM
Southgate claims that the migrant workers all 'love football' and 'want the World Cup to take place.'

As I've always said, the guy's such a little power-worshiper.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 03, 2022, 10:41:56 AM
I like what Hummel have done with Denmark's lit for this World Cup. I have to say I'm less than enamoured with the idea of watching it but will probably fall into it.

You have kit the blue touch paper there.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Axl Rose on November 03, 2022, 10:44:23 AM
Southgate claims that the migrant workers all 'love football' and 'want the World Cup to take place.'

As I've always said, the guy's such a little power-worshiper.

I hate him
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on November 03, 2022, 10:54:54 AM
He really is a horrible, horrible little scrote. I despise him.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: LeeB on November 03, 2022, 10:55:45 AM
I like what Hummel have done with Denmark's lit for this World Cup. I have to say I'm less than enamoured with the idea of watching it but will probably fall into it.

You have kit the blue touch paper there.

Ha! Have to say though, I'm seriously considering not watching it too.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Monty on November 03, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
He's a craven little lickspittle. The same reason he picks Jack only when he's at the powerful club (form couldn't be less relevant), the same reason he's in the job to begin with because he's such a pusillanimous company man - in the end, it's the same reason he ends up spouting sycophantic bollocks for the murderous Qatari slave regime.

He's just Wormtongue, a power-worshiping coward.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 03, 2022, 11:03:19 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/P1gPsz7/yv-Tqh33-Kw-QJx-Ah-Om-U7-D91g-small.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P1gPsz7)


http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/now/politics/214003-qatar-world-cup-death-toll
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: dr.chekov on November 03, 2022, 11:09:45 AM
Southgate claims that the migrant workers all 'love football' and 'want the World Cup to take place.'

As I've always said, the guy's such a little power-worshiper.

I hate him


What a prick he is.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Axl Rose on November 03, 2022, 11:09:46 AM
He really is a horrible, horrible little scrote. I despise him.

Yes, what a ****** he is. I'd be fucking livid if he ever got the Villa job, and would fly back from Japan to bombard him with sugar cubes. Wanker
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 03, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
How are they issuing the tickets?  Are they flogging them?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: LeeB on November 03, 2022, 12:08:57 PM
How are they issuing the tickets?  Are they flogging them?

Bloody hell, you're on a roll today
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 03, 2022, 04:20:32 PM
Normally I'd look forward to the world cup but I'm ambivalent about this one. There seems to be plenty of Qatar promo on TV for it and for visiting Qatar too. Air Conditioning coming out of the drains as you walk around the streets is meant to impress us?   
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Pete3206 on November 03, 2022, 04:45:18 PM
Villa are screening the games in the '82 lounge for £25 a pop. Price includes one drink.

Good luck with that.

Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 03, 2022, 05:33:41 PM
Is the drink a barrel of champagne?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 03, 2022, 07:17:56 PM
Southgate claims that the migrant workers all 'love football' and 'want the World Cup to take place.'

As I've always said, the guy's such a little power-worshiper.
so do the Russians
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: dr.chekov on November 04, 2022, 10:16:17 AM
FIFA has written to all the competing nations and told them not to drag football "into every ideological or political battle that exists", that the game should not ďbe handing out moral lessonsĒ and to just Ďfocus on the footballí.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 04, 2022, 10:28:31 AM
Villa are screening the games in the '82 lounge for £25 a pop. Price includes one drink.

Good luck with that.

A council pop?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Rigadon on November 04, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
I'll probably half-watch the England and Wales games but not much else.  I think this England team has probably peaked already, can't see them doing much this time.  Be good for Wales to have a decent run out at a world cup after all the years they've missed out.   
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Rigadon on November 04, 2022, 10:55:16 AM
That it's being held in fucking Qatar is a joke. 
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: LeeB on November 04, 2022, 11:02:35 AM
I've really got no enthusiasm for it whatsoever. Might change as it gets underway but I doubt it, and the whole thing fucking stinks.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Rigadon on November 04, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Yeah that's it for me too.  There is a vibe about this one that won't go away and the timing of it feels utterly wrong. 
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: AV82EC on November 04, 2022, 11:13:33 AM
Thereís a part of me that wants to see the World Cup played in different countries and spread around away from the usual suspects such as Europe and South/N America but Qatar is as far away from that as itís possible to get. The whole process was an absolute corrupt mess. The trouble is the vast cost of staging it excludes pretty much 95% of countries on earth though I think China and Australia must be due a go soon.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Nev on November 04, 2022, 11:58:46 AM
As well as the continuation of football from L1 down during the tournament, I didn't realise that the Championship restarted on the 3rd Dec.

Alongside the unpalatable moral aspect, from a more trivial point it will be unlike any other WC in that in won't be the only football taking place. Along with the approach of Christmas I think this will take the attention away from the tournament, it won't be the only show in town so won't dominate as it has done before. An early exit for the national side won't help either.

And if reports are to be believed, the England band is back together at the behest of the hosts......
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on November 04, 2022, 12:39:30 PM
As well as the continuation of football from L1 down during the tournament, I didn't realise that the Championship restarted on the 3rd Dec.

Alongside the unpalatable moral aspect, from a more trivial point it will be unlike any other WC in that in won't be the only football taking place. Along with the approach of Christmas I think this will take the attention away from the tournament, it won't be the only show in town so won't dominate as it has done before. An early exit for the national side won't help either.

And if reports are to be believed, the England band is back together at the behest of the hosts......

"Who can we invite who are more hated than us?"
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Smirker on November 04, 2022, 02:26:52 PM
I'll probably half-watch the England and Wales games but not much else.  I think this England team has probably peaked already, can't see them doing much this time.  Be good for Wales to have a decent run out at a world cup after all the years they've missed out.   

Dunno about that. It is still a very young squad and the likes of Bellingham, Rice, Mount, Foden and Saka have only got better since last time. Our oldest player is Kyle Walker at 32.

I think this is the best team since Southgate came in.

Chilwell and James out will be a loss though.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: TheMalandro on November 04, 2022, 05:23:57 PM
A competition that no one has any appetite for. England will probably win then.

Iím not watching any of it.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: dr.chekov on November 05, 2022, 06:05:47 PM
Anti-World Cup protests in the Bundesliga...

https://twitter.com/FootballJOE/status/1588922338216595458?cxt=HHwWhMCqkdec_owsAAAA
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 05, 2022, 06:50:27 PM
I have so little interest in this, I have no idea without Googling who is in Englands group, who we play first, when we play or in fact when it even starts? What with it being in Sandyland, what time are kick offs? Late in the day or early in the day local time I'd have thought?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 05, 2022, 06:52:26 PM
Iran USA and Wales.  I think USA is first up but Iím not entirely sure.  Kick offs no idea. 
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 05, 2022, 06:54:01 PM
It looks like kick off times are 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm GMT
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: TelfordVilla on November 05, 2022, 06:54:21 PM
I couldn't give a XXXX about the England team usually. Couldn't give a XXXX about this world cup either. So it's a big no from me.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 05, 2022, 06:59:32 PM
I'll probably be a hypocrite and watch a bunch of games but I can't remember ever feeling so meh about a world cup. Probably a combination of the time of year it's taking place, and certainly the location.

It will never happen but i'd love it, love it, if all the countries worked together and a few days before it's due to start everyone pulls out.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on November 05, 2022, 07:50:34 PM
I hope it's an absolute disaster. I imagine the prices will keep a lot of the usual morons away, but I'd be very interested to see what happens when alcohol fuelled fans collide with a fundamentalist Islamic state, especially with most of the grounds being close to each other.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: steamer on November 06, 2022, 06:50:09 PM
Think I am giving this a miss
Will be difficult to not watch the Engeland games, but with zero level of previous enthusiasm
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 06, 2022, 08:15:59 PM
Borussia Dortmund this weekend.

(https://i.ibb.co/rQZYLT4/2022-fifa-world-cup-qatar-773168480.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rQZYLT4)
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 06, 2022, 08:33:31 PM
I hope it's an absolute disaster. I imagine the prices will keep a lot of the usual morons away, but I'd be very interested to see what happens when alcohol fuelled fans collide with a fundamentalist Islamic state, especially with most of the grounds being close to each other.

Where are they getting alcohol from?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 06, 2022, 08:36:38 PM
I hope it's an absolute disaster. I imagine the prices will keep a lot of the usual morons away, but I'd be very interested to see what happens when alcohol fuelled fans collide with a fundamentalist Islamic state, especially with most of the grounds being close to each other.

Where are they getting alcohol from?

Hotels. You can buy alcohol in hotels as a tourist. They may allow something in fan areas as well, i'm not sure on that.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on November 06, 2022, 08:48:15 PM
I hope it's an absolute disaster. I imagine the prices will keep a lot of the usual morons away, but I'd be very interested to see what happens when alcohol fuelled fans collide with a fundamentalist Islamic state, especially with most of the grounds being close to each other.

Where are they getting alcohol from?

Hotels, fan zones and certain areas at the grounds.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 06, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
I hope it's an absolute disaster. I imagine the prices will keep a lot of the usual morons away, but I'd be very interested to see what happens when alcohol fuelled fans collide with a fundamentalist Islamic state, especially with most of the grounds being close to each other.
they will disappear into the desert, never to be seen again
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 06, 2022, 09:44:27 PM
I hope it's an absolute disaster. I imagine the prices will keep a lot of the usual morons away, but I'd be very interested to see what happens when alcohol fuelled fans collide with a fundamentalist Islamic state, especially with most of the grounds being close to each other.

Where are they getting alcohol from?

Hotels, fan zones and certain areas at the grounds.

got a mate working in Qatar and he seemed to think hotels will be residents only and they already charge around £12 a pint and canít pour a pint if their lives depended on it.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 07, 2022, 09:51:25 AM
I liked the shit that Neville got on HIGNFY , he was called a hypocrite trying to justify his commentating in Qatar.
What happened to your man of the people image you 2faced Manc twat.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Dave on November 07, 2022, 11:08:30 AM
I liked the shit that Neville got on HIGNFY , he was called a hypocrite trying to justify his commentating in Qatar.
What happened to your man of the people image you 2faced Manc twat.

I think it's more than he is working for the Qatari state broadcaster that is the problem, rather than just being in Qatar to commentate. I expect (well, hope) that plenty of media organisations will be covering the wartier side of the tournament, I just don't expect beIN Sports to be one of them.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on November 07, 2022, 11:23:31 AM
I liked the shit that Neville got on HIGNFY , he was called a hypocrite trying to justify his commentating in Qatar.
What happened to your man of the people image you 2faced Manc twat.

I think it's more than he is working for the Qatari state broadcaster that is the problem, rather than just being in Qatar to commentate. I expect (well, hope) that plenty of media organisations will be covering the wartier side of the tournament, I just don't expect beIN Sports to be one of them.

Exactly. It's there, and it's happening, so unless there's an unlikely last minute mass boycott then people have got to work. Having to commentate for BBC or ITV is entirely different to taking Qatari money directly though. Gary Neville is a huge, hypocritcal twat.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: LeeB on November 07, 2022, 01:49:30 PM
I liked the shit that Neville got on HIGNFY , he was called a hypocrite trying to justify his commentating in Qatar.
What happened to your man of the people image you 2faced Manc twat.

I think it's more than he is working for the Qatari state broadcaster that is the problem, rather than just being in Qatar to commentate. I expect (well, hope) that plenty of media organisations will be covering the wartier side of the tournament, I just don't expect beIN Sports to be one of them.

Exactly. It's there, and it's happening, so unless there's an unlikely last minute mass boycott then people have got to work. Having to commentate for BBC or ITV is entirely different to taking Qatari money directly though. Gary Neville is a huge, hypocritcal twat.

I think if you're going to stick your neck out in public like he has done, which I applaud by the way, then you need to think seriously about things like this. Because not only do you look a bit of a twat, you undermine the causes you're supporting, and it's not like he's short of a bob or two.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Risso on November 07, 2022, 02:04:20 PM
He's just another hypocritical c*** like Lineker. It's easy to mouth off about social injustice or whatever when you're as rich as he is. When it comes to it though, his fake principles go out of the window in exchange for more money. Just like that jug-eared twat.
Title: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 07, 2022, 04:42:47 PM
As well as Coutinho , Luiz not made Brazil squad. How Casimero makes the midfield after his display against us yesterday instead is beyond me
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: LeeB on November 07, 2022, 04:44:29 PM
Good, it's all good. Sorry for the player like, but the more we keep here during the World Cup the better.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 04:47:45 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Martinez shithouse his way to a World Cup. Preferably making some ubercunt like Neymar or Ronaldo miss a crucial penalty along the way.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: LeeB on November 07, 2022, 04:56:55 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Martinez shithouse his way to a World Cup. Preferably making some ubercunt like Neymar or Ronaldo miss a crucial penalty along the way.

Grealish?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 07, 2022, 06:02:16 PM
So is it just Emi I and Mattieusz Cąsh who are on the Villa "Represent!" card?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 06:07:00 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Martinez shithouse his way to a World Cup. Preferably making some ubercunt like Neymar or Ronaldo miss a crucial penalty along the way.

Grealish?

Yeah, that would be amusing.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 06:07:56 PM
So is it just Emi I and Mattieusz Cąsh who are on the Villa "Represent!" card?

Bednarek, maybe Dendoncker, Digne, Kamara.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 07, 2022, 06:09:29 PM
So is it just Emi I and Mattieusz Cąsh who are on the Villa "Represent!" card?

Hopefully we only need Emi as he saves the penalty to give him and Messi their first World Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 07, 2022, 07:58:07 PM
There's not many people in this world who put principal before money sadly
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 07, 2022, 10:08:19 PM
There's not many people in this world who put principal before money sadly

Yes but itís all the more unedifying when you have more money than youíll ever need, with a continued route to access more, without the need to cross this particular line.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 08, 2022, 07:41:18 AM
I see neither Doug or Phil are in the Brazil squad. I don't follow these things particularly closely but they were both involved prior to this season weren't they?
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2022, 07:49:22 AM
They were, but it's pretty hard to make the argument that they deserve to be in the squad ahead of anyone who is there, based on what they've done for the last year or so.

The "surprises" would probably be Guimares and Martinelli, and they're both playing much better.

(and obviously not injured as in Coutinho's case)
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 08, 2022, 08:03:58 AM
I didn't even know Coutinho was injured. I need to start paying more attention!
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: olaftab on November 08, 2022, 01:30:02 PM
So finally Blatter has coughed up and admitted it was a mistake to stage the World Cup in Qatar. So thanks Sepp you total ******.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507

Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: olaftab on November 08, 2022, 01:32:30 PM
They were, but it's pretty hard to make the argument that they deserve to be in the squad ahead of anyone who is there, based on what they've done for the last year or so.

The "surprises" would probably be Guimares and Martinelli, and they're both playing much better.

(and obviously not injured as in Coutinho's case)
Agree but surely Fred is not better than Luiz?  And also Paqueta is in but he hasn't been pulling up many trees at West Ham.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Somniloquism on November 08, 2022, 01:32:43 PM
So finally Blatter has coughed up and admitted it was a mistake to stage the World Cup in Qatar. So thanks Sepp you total ******.

The brown envelopes finally stopped then.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 08, 2022, 01:51:06 PM
So finally Blatter has coughed up and admitted it was a mistake to stage the World Cup in Qatar. So thanks Sepp you total ******.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507

And what a total missing the point apology it is too.  "Qatar is too small" is not the point you syphalitic old bell end.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 02:11:56 PM
They were, but it's pretty hard to make the argument that they deserve to be in the squad ahead of anyone who is there, based on what they've done for the last year or so.

The "surprises" would probably be Guimares and Martinelli, and they're both playing much better.

(and obviously not injured as in Coutinho's case)
Agree but surely Fred is not better than Luiz?  And also Paqueta is in but he hasn't been pulling up many trees at West Ham.

I agree, Luiz can feel pretty hard done by to miss out a place to those pair, particularly given how well he did in the olympics last year.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: TonyD on November 08, 2022, 02:12:52 PM
The whole thing is a fucking disgrace. 
As are all the FAs that didnít boycott it. 
I hope it goes tits up.

If any fans are thinking of playing up over there.  Think twice as Qatar have drafted in 1,000s of riot police from Turkey.  You couldnít write it. 
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 08, 2022, 02:36:36 PM
So finally Blatter has coughed up and admitted it was a mistake to stage the World Cup in Qatar. So thanks Sepp you total ******.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507

And what a total missing the point apology it is too.  "Qatar is too small" is not the point you syphalitic old bell end.

Good choice of phrase.

https://metro.co.uk/2010/07/15/sepp-blatter-called-a-bellend-during-award-of-south-african-medal-447946/
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: dr.chekov on November 08, 2022, 02:39:20 PM
David Squires on the arrest/treatment of a "World Cup whistle-blower"

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/nov/08/david-squires-on-qatar-2022-and-a-world-cup-whistleblower-story
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2022, 03:18:35 PM
They were, but it's pretty hard to make the argument that they deserve to be in the squad ahead of anyone who is there, based on what they've done for the last year or so.

The "surprises" would probably be Guimares and Martinelli, and they're both playing much better.

(and obviously not injured as in Coutinho's case)
Agree but surely Fred is not better than Luiz?  And also Paqueta is in but he hasn't been pulling up many trees at West Ham.

I agree, Luiz can feel pretty hard done by to miss out a place to those pair, particularly given how well he did in the olympics last year.

He's not really competing for a place with Paqueta, given the roles each of them play. And while Paqueta hasn't been spectacular for West Ham, he has been for two seasons at Lyon. So I'd make the comparison to Kamara - if Kamara gets a French call up, it's based on his Marseille form, not his Villa form. So it's not unreasonable that Brazil might consider what he was doing prior to this season.

As for Fred, he's been pretty similar to Luiz. Playing most of the games for his club and being one of their better players in those games more often than not. But doing it in the top six and Europe rather than in the bottom half. And given that, and the youthfulness of much of the Brazil squad, going for the additional experience doesn't seem crazy.

If Luiz had been playing out of his skin for us for the last two seasons, I'd agree he could probably feel hard done by. But he hasn't he's been, he's been perfectly decent. So it's not that unreasonable that other players who have also been perfectly decent are there instead.

Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 03:18:46 PM
The whole thing is a fucking disgrace. 
As are all the FAs that didnít boycott it.
I hope it goes tits up.

If any fans are thinking of playing up over there.  Think twice as Qatar have drafted in 1,000s of riot police from Turkey.  You couldnít write it. 


I think that bit is a lot easier for a fan to post on a forum than it would be for a national association to actually follow-through with.

FIFA are c**ts for allowing this to happen but for the FAs and players I think they've been put in an impossible decision that isn't really their fault and they don't deserve to be abused for taking part. Not least because for many players this may be their only chance at a world cup, think of countries like Wales who haven't qualified for years.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 08, 2022, 03:41:50 PM
Quote
World Cup ambassador says homosexuality is 'damage in the mind'
Salman was speaking to ZDF in a documentary to be broadcast on Tuesday.

"They have to accept our rules here," he said. "[Homosexuality] is haram. You know what haram [forbidden] means?"

When asked why it was haram, Salman said: "I am not a strict Muslim but why is it haram? Because it is damage in the mind."

The interview was then immediately stopped by an accompanying official.

Never forget those like Beckham and Gary Neville etc that are happy taking Qatari money.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 05:07:36 PM
Quote
World Cup ambassador says homosexuality is 'damage in the mind'
Salman was speaking to ZDF in a documentary to be broadcast on Tuesday.

"They have to accept our rules here," he said. "[Homosexuality] is haram. You know what haram [forbidden] means?"

When asked why it was haram, Salman said: "I am not a strict Muslim but why is it haram? Because it is damage in the mind."

The interview was then immediately stopped by an accompanying official.

Never forget those like Beckham and Gary Neville etc that are happy taking Qatari money.

Agreed on this, my stance to not blame the FAs or players doesn't extend to people taking a contract to work directly at the tournament that has nothing to do with their regular employment.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: wince on November 08, 2022, 06:04:45 PM
Wonít be watching
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Chris Harte on November 08, 2022, 08:49:34 PM
I can't get excited about this world cup. Maybe I will once it kicks off but, aside from human rights and LBGT+ issues, the fact the PL and other leagues in Europe are suspending their seasons to facilitate this in autumn/winter just seems wrong. The fact the final will be played a week before Christmas just seems wrong.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2022, 08:52:15 PM
The fact the final will be played a week before Christmas just seems wrong.

I think that's the one bit that is fun and exciting.

It's just all the shit reasons why it's happening like that, that are bad. The fact that there is going to be football on all the time when I'm supposed to be working is the good bit.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 08, 2022, 09:00:19 PM
Exactly right.

Winter World Cup = fine.

Winter World Cup where people are routinely beaten and imprisoned for speaking out, women are treated as second class citizens, sub-Saharan Africans who are scarcely more than slaves die building stadia and homosexuality is banned = not fine.

Hypocritically, though, I intend to watch pretty much all of it. I love the World Cup, even though (or perhaps because) Scotland are never in it. I'm too poor to afford an actual holiday so have saved all my annual leave for this.

I console myself in the knowledge that it's on free-to-air telly, I never watch adverts, and the myriad of sponsorships aren't really aimed at me. So I'm not contributing to the tournament/regime in any meaningful way. Refusing to watch when I already have the time off would be cutting my nose off to spite my face.

If others don't want to watch, that's perfectly fine, too.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 08, 2022, 09:23:42 PM
I plan not to engage as much as I normally do but I haven't a clue what that is going to look like in reality.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Stu82 on November 08, 2022, 11:25:04 PM
I plan not to engage as much as I normally do but I haven't a clue what that is going to look like in reality.

Thatís how I feel, not enthused at all, wished it was happening in a place of better values.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2022, 11:37:10 PM
I plan not to engage as much as I normally do but I haven't a clue what that is going to look like in reality.

Thatís how I feel, not enthused at all, wished it was happening in a place of better values.

While this is all true, last time around it was held in a dictatorship that four years earlier had invaded its immediate neighbour.

And people got on board with the "it's coming home" Russia 2018 train pretty comfortably.

I appreciate you might also have not felt enthused about that one either. But I'd bet my last pound that an England second-round victory and a surprisingly easy potential path to the final is all it would take for the overall consensus to pivot from concern for migrant workers and FIFA corruption pretty damn quickly.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Stu82 on November 09, 2022, 12:13:20 AM
I plan not to engage as much as I normally do but I haven't a clue what that is going to look like in reality.

Thatís how I feel, not enthused at all, wished it was happening in a place of better values.

While this is all true, last time around it was held in a dictatorship that four years earlier had invaded its immediate neighbour.

And people got on board with the "it's coming home" Russia 2018 train pretty comfortably.

I appreciate you might also have not felt enthused about that one either. But I'd bet my last pound that an England second-round victory and a surprisingly easy potential path to the final is all it would take for the overall consensus to pivot from concern for migrant workers and FIFA corruption pretty damn quickly.

Good point, I nearly added that I felt similar with Russia, but went on and enjoyed the competition anyway.
Seeing what they are doing now in Ukraine, they are a dreadful regime, but like Qatar they knew who to manipulate and pay off to achieve their aims. Thanks Mr Blatter.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Rory on November 09, 2022, 12:20:48 AM
I won't be watching, but that's not because of ethical reasons, I just don't enjoy international football. Respect to anyone who wants to watch and is boycotting, but I don't blame any ordinary fan for just wanting to watch some football. It's the decision-makers at fault.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 01:22:26 AM
I am delighted that the majority of the Villa squad will be at home for this WC. Itís such a stupid time with no break before the actual event unlike summer WCís. Players will get injured and miss time for their clubs. Youíre seeing players now get hurt and make magical recoveries so they can just be there. Which I get from their perspective but not good for their long term health. Our manager will get proper time with those who are left and we will wish the best for those who end up going.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Rory on November 09, 2022, 01:36:28 AM
I am delighted that the majority of the Villa squad will be at home for this WC. Itís such a stupid time with no break before the actual event unlike summer WCís. Players will get injured and miss time for their clubs. Youíre seeing players now get hurt and make magical recoveries so they can just be there. Which I get from their Perez tube but not good for their long term health. Our manager will get proper time with those who are left and we will wish the best for those who end up going.

Agreed. I hope any Villa players who are available and selected have a great tournament, because if we can avoid the kind of indirect tapping-up that Southgate carried out with Grealish, it's good news.

But whether it's England, France or Fiji, international football can fuck off, it's how they play for Villa that matters to me.
Title: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 09, 2022, 05:16:59 PM
I know there is an existing thread for WC in Qatar and we can discuss all non football prevailing issues in there, this is about discussing squads announcements, outstanding teams and players, who we think will win and individual matches as and when they are played.

For me it's Argentina.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 09, 2022, 05:18:41 PM
I don't really care. The whole thing is tarnished and should never be taking place.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 09, 2022, 05:29:20 PM
Yeah I'm not nearly as excited about this as I usually am for a World Cup. It all feels wrong.

I'll probably be more interested when it starts though.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Monty on November 09, 2022, 05:37:14 PM
Thank god test cricket is back at virtually the same time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 05:38:26 PM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Clampy on November 09, 2022, 05:40:15 PM
Yeah I'm not nearly as excited about this as I usually am for a World Cup. It all feels wrong.

I'll probably be more interested when it starts though.

Yeah, that's exactly where I am with it as well.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 09, 2022, 06:16:06 PM
Cameroon according to Samuel Eto.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 09, 2022, 06:16:32 PM
Shall we sticky this for the duration?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 09, 2022, 06:17:43 PM
Shall we sticky this for the duration?
Please.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
Another win for Villa. Lucas Digne will not be at the WC. Shame for him but he can recover properly and get with the Unai plan.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 09, 2022, 06:35:56 PM
French squad reportedly to be confirmed at 8pm
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 06:38:36 PM
So is it just Emi I and Mattieusz Cąsh who are on the Villa "Represent!" card?

Bednarek, maybe Dendoncker, Digne, Kamara.

no Digne
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 09, 2022, 06:39:23 PM
I want as few of our players there as possible.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 09, 2022, 06:40:22 PM
Will we have just the two representing us, Martinez and Cash?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 09, 2022, 06:42:05 PM
Allegedly Ashley Young made Southgate's initial 56 man squad
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 06:44:27 PM
Kamara might make it. But given he has just come back I'd rather he didn't go. He has a long future ahead of him and I'll be happier if he's fit for us the rest of the season.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 09, 2022, 06:46:37 PM
56?! What's the fucking point in that? Easier not to be picked. Plus why would you want the ball-ache of having to break the bad news to half of them that they're not going?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: olaftab on November 09, 2022, 06:49:49 PM
Allegedly Ashley Young made Southgate's initial 56 man squad
Not surprised when you think about so few English players in the Prem. If you didnít make the 56 you are officially shit.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 06:58:04 PM
ex Villa legend has made the French squad. He's gone on to have an excellent career after he left us. We really did royally fuck it up thta season with him, Amavi, Traore, Gueye etc.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 09, 2022, 07:18:53 PM
Who do you mean, Veretout?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2022, 07:20:34 PM
Who do you mean, Veretout?

yep. He's done really post Villa career. Probably doesn't make up for choosing us over eventual PL champions Leicester mind you.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 09, 2022, 07:32:29 PM
I want as few of our players there as possible.
And I feel the same however I still canít believe Luiz not selected for Brazil
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 09, 2022, 08:05:27 PM
Confirmed, both Digne and Kamara left out of France squad. Deschamps also chosen to only select 25 instead of 26 players
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeonW on November 09, 2022, 08:11:44 PM
I don't really care. The whole thing is tarnished and should never be taking place.

Same. I normally watch almost every game. Not watching a single one in this one.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 09, 2022, 08:13:21 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 09, 2022, 08:14:21 PM
Wales squad

Goalkeepers: Wayne Hennessey (Nottingham Forest), Danny Ward (Leicester City), Adam Davies (Stoke City).

Defenders: Neco Williams (Nottingham Forest), Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur), Ben Cabango (Swansea City), Joe Rodon (Rennes, on loan from Tottenham Hotspur), Chris Mepham (Bournemouth), Ethan Ampadu (Spezia, on loan from Chelsea), Chris Gunter (AFC Wimbledon), Connor Roberts (Burnley), Tom Lockyer (Luton Town).

Midfielders: Aaron Ramsey (Nice), Joe Allen (Swansea City), Harry Wilson (Fulham), Joe Morrell (Portsmouth), Dylan Levitt (Dundee United), Rubin Colwill (Cardiff City), Jonny Williams (Swindon Town), Matthew Smith (Milton Keynes Dons), Sorba Thomas (Huddersfield Town).

Forwards: Gareth Bale (Los Angeles FC), Dan James (Fulham, on loan from Leeds United), Kieffer Moore (Bournemouth), Mark Harris (Cardiff City), Brennan Johnson (Nottingham Forest).

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 09, 2022, 08:16:50 PM
struggling to be excited for the world cup. For a few reasons, Qatar; fucking shambles. Southgate, negative prick.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 09, 2022, 08:17:27 PM
From a selfish perspective the less Villa players involved the better. A month working with Unai can only be a benefit. It's a bit shit for some of the players not being picked though. Easpecially Kamara and Digne, bit of a kick in the balls to not be picked when the manager would rather have an empty seat instead of one of them.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dante Lavelli on November 09, 2022, 08:35:56 PM
Hopefully they blame the previous manager rather than the club, and decide to use the time to impress the new manger rather than mope about. Having a core of hungry players with the calibre of Mings, Luiz, Didne, Kamara could really help us kick-on this season and next.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: olaftab on November 09, 2022, 08:41:36 PM
Confirmed, both Digne and Kamara left out of France squad. Deschamps also chosen to only select 25 instead of 26 players
Bastard. He deliberately went one short so he can leave out both Villa menÖ.just like Southgate Deschamps is so anti us☹️
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 09, 2022, 09:00:14 PM
Denmark are going to win it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 09, 2022, 09:04:32 PM
Assuming most of us are supporting Argentina, for the Emi's?

Will be cheering for Germany, Argentina and Uruguay in that order. Think it will be Brasil or Argentina that wins it.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 09, 2022, 09:29:19 PM
Denmark are going to win it.
Lacking a top class striker.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 09, 2022, 09:30:24 PM
Denmark are going to win it.
Lacking a top class striker.

Spain 2010, France 1998.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 09, 2022, 09:31:07 PM
Meh, not bothered.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 09, 2022, 09:34:05 PM
Will we have just the two representing us, Martinez and Cash?

Dendoncker
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 09, 2022, 09:44:24 PM
Confirmed, both Digne and Kamara left out of France squad. Deschamps also chosen to only select 25 instead of 26 players
Bastard. He deliberately went one short so he can leave out both Villa menÖ.just like Southgate Deschamps is so anti us☹️
Didnít think of it that way but you may have a point !
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: LeeB on November 09, 2022, 09:47:15 PM
There's at least 3, maybe upto 5 Villa players that can point to 12 months under Gerrard as to why they're not going to the World Cup.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 09, 2022, 09:50:49 PM
Wales squad

Goalkeepers: Wayne Hennessey (Nottingham Forest), Danny Ward (Leicester City), Adam Davies (Stoke City).

Defenders: Neco Williams (Nottingham Forest), Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur), Ben Cabango (Swansea City), Joe Rodon (Rennes, on loan from Tottenham Hotspur), Chris Mepham (Bournemouth), Ethan Ampadu (Spezia, on loan from Chelsea), Chris Gunter (AFC Wimbledon), Connor Roberts (Burnley), Tom Lockyer (Luton Town).

Midfielders: Aaron Ramsey (Nice), Joe Allen (Swansea City), Harry Wilson (Fulham), Joe Morrell (Portsmouth), Dylan Levitt (Dundee United), Rubin Colwill (Cardiff City), Jonny Williams (Swindon Town), Matthew Smith (Milton Keynes Dons), Sorba Thomas (Huddersfield Town).

Forwards: Gareth Bale (Los Angeles FC), Dan James (Fulham, on loan from Leeds United), Kieffer Moore (Bournemouth), Mark Harris (Cardiff City), Brennan Johnson (Nottingham Forest).



Good god that's a shite squad
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: darren woolley on November 09, 2022, 10:24:15 PM
I'm not that excited about this World Cup like other World Cups but I'm going for an England win.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Yeltzer on November 09, 2022, 10:25:54 PM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 09, 2022, 10:45:16 PM
Whoís Frogs?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 09, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad

Is that Paul McCartney's backing band?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 09, 2022, 10:52:13 PM
Denmark are going to win it.
Lacking a top class striker.

Spain 2010, France 1998.
Why do you disrespect the legend, Stephane Guivarc'h?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Steve67 on November 09, 2022, 11:02:56 PM
Itís great that weíve only got a couple away as it gives Unai plenty of time to work with the players.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 09, 2022, 11:11:20 PM
Cash and Bednarek both in the 47 man "long list" for the Poland squad.

Belgium squad announced tomorrow.

Both the Emis in the 28-man provisional list for Argentina.

All squads must be finalised by Sunday.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 09, 2022, 11:45:26 PM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad
The what?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: brontebilly on November 10, 2022, 12:07:14 AM
Theres no build up or excitement at all. The group stages seem like they could be worth avoiding. It's a farce and monumentally corrupt. But...the knock outs should be epic
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 10, 2022, 12:08:07 AM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad
The what?

You know what les rosbifs are like.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Perthvillan on November 10, 2022, 12:42:00 AM
Understand a lot of people's reservations about it being held in Qatar for obvious reasons.
Always look forward to the World Cup and have planned to take my retirement from work next Friday to be able to watch it in peace for a change.
Here in Australia it's always a challenge watching the games because of the time difference though.
Brazil v Denmark final for me, with Brazil to win, although would like to see Argentina win for Emi and crowning glory on Messi's career.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: JD on November 10, 2022, 01:10:42 AM
Argentina hopefully, for big Emi and Messi.
See Guilbert and Sanson didn't make the French squad either.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 10, 2022, 01:33:56 AM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad

ďWhen someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 10, 2022, 01:41:30 AM
Do many of our rivals (yes, including Newcastle) have lots of players at the World Cup?

This enforced break could really galvanise our season and put the brakes on upstarts who are overachieving.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 10, 2022, 01:46:49 AM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad

ďWhen someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou

You would say that, you maple leaf twat 😉
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Hillbilly on November 10, 2022, 04:06:52 AM
Southgate is in the England manager death spiral. Start off saying players will be picked on form and not name or club. End up picking a centre half who barely gets a look in at Man Utd and a midfielder who's been injured all season and has played one half of football for Man City.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Rory on November 10, 2022, 04:21:01 AM
Southgate is in the England manager death spiral. Start off saying players will be picked on form and not name or club. End up picking a centre half who barely gets a look in at Man Utd and a midfielder who's been injured all season and has played one half of football for Man City.

How many of his predecessors has Southgate outlasted?

I supported England until I was old enough to realise I hated most of the players. Think the tipping point was about 2003. I support Villa. Twats like Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Rooney are most definitely not Villa, so they are equally definitely not for me.

But Southgate, who seems to really, really hate Villa, has been in charge for what feels like about 20 years.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 10, 2022, 04:45:43 AM
Southgate is in the England manager death spiral. Start off saying players will be picked on form and not name or club. End up picking a centre half who barely gets a look in at Man Utd and a midfielder who's been injured all season and has played one half of football for Man City.

How many of his predecessors has Southgate outlasted?

I supported England until I was old enough to realise I hated most of the players. Think the tipping point was about 2003. I support Villa. Twats like Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Rooney are most definitely not Villa, so they are equally definitely not for me.

But Southgate, who seems to really, really hate Villa, has been in charge for what feels like about 20 years.

Feel the same. Come on the Argies!

Though Iíve drawn Portugal in the sweep at work so Iíll be cheering Ronaldo on as well. Blimey.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Bad English on November 10, 2022, 05:51:39 AM
The shouting in the thread title is really annoying.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on November 10, 2022, 06:56:10 AM
Have to say that Portugal are the team that I'm really despising this World Cup.

Bruno Fernandes, Ronaldo, Pepe and Moutinho to name a few of their loathsome players.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 10, 2022, 08:01:43 AM
Have to say that Portugal are the team that I'm really despising this World Cup.

Bruno Fernandes, Ronaldo, Pepe and Moutinho to name a few of their loathsome players.

Brazil.

Anthony, Richarlison & Neymar
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: dr.chekov on November 10, 2022, 08:08:43 AM
Have to say that Portugal are the team that I'm really despising this World Cup.

Bruno Fernandes, Ronaldo, Pepe and Moutinho to name a few of their loathsome players.

Brazil.

Anthony, Richarlison & Neymar

Correct.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 10, 2022, 08:19:33 AM
The shouting in the thread title is really annoying.
Change it then if thatís really affecting you  Iím not bothered , I donít seem to be able to 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Bad English on November 10, 2022, 11:07:13 AM
I CAN'T.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 10, 2022, 11:33:32 AM
The shouting in the thread title is really annoying.
Change it then if thatís really affecting you  Iím not bothered , I donít seem to be able to 🤣🤣🤣

Go into the initial post, select "modify", and you should be able to amend the subject.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 10, 2022, 11:49:17 AM
Dendoncker makes the World Cup squad. Pleased to see Trossard in there but no Lukaku, too. Seems that their manager picks players based on form not reputation. Crazy idea which will never catch on.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 10, 2022, 11:49:47 AM
Dendoncker confirmed in Belgian squad
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 10, 2022, 11:52:01 AM
ďWhen someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou

You would say that, you maple leaf twat 😉

Leave TV alone. I like Canada, it's my favourite of the 51 states.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 10, 2022, 11:53:46 AM
ďWhen someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou

You would say that, you maple leaf twat 😉

Leave TV alone. I like Canada, it's my favourite of the 51 states.

No offence taken. We lord over those American tramps south of us anyway.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 10, 2022, 12:14:25 PM
Dendoncker confirmed in Belgian squad
And Eden Hazard who is rumputed to be on Villas radar.
A good world cup would mean several clubs would want him a bad one and then maybe not so much
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 10, 2022, 12:37:31 PM
Why is Portugal not on this list?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: simon ward 50 on November 10, 2022, 12:43:14 PM
Where is the "am I bothered" option?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 10, 2022, 02:02:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhNQaDiWIAEMaru?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 10, 2022, 02:02:47 PM
Gallagher, Phillips and Coady in ...WTF.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 10, 2022, 02:03:58 PM
At least he picked Maddison.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 10, 2022, 02:04:31 PM
I rate Coady. No issue with him being in.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 10, 2022, 02:04:37 PM
That defence looks shit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 10, 2022, 02:05:42 PM
That defence looks shit.

It really does.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithe on November 10, 2022, 02:06:15 PM
That defence looks shit.

And the midfield a bit 'samey'. Although I cant really think of anyone who would improve it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Clampy on November 10, 2022, 02:07:26 PM
Picking Phillips is ridiculous. Not sure about Rashford either.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: villadelph on November 10, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Southgate really is going to die on Maguire hill, isn't he?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 10, 2022, 02:11:14 PM
Southgate really is going to die on Maguire hill, isn't he?

Wouldn't be the first person to die on the slab.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 10, 2022, 02:11:41 PM
Picking Phillips is ridiculous. Not sure about Rashford either.

Or Maguire.

Phillips has played 1 (one) minute in the Premier League this season. 60 seconds.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on November 10, 2022, 02:11:51 PM
Always been a really big England fan, but my interest in the Men's football team just diminished even further.

I currently can't decide between taking little or no interest or (secretly) hoping they perform poorly so that Southgate is gone sooner.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 10, 2022, 02:13:53 PM
England don't have an abundance of great central defenders, to be fair.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 10, 2022, 02:14:06 PM
Phillips yet to start for Man City.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithe on November 10, 2022, 02:18:13 PM
Thought maybe Burn might have been the wildcard, WFT option but no, Maguire has taken that role.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2022, 02:18:53 PM
Picking Phillips is ridiculous. Not sure about Rashford either.

Or Maguire.

Phillips has played 1 (one) minute in the Premier League this season. 60 seconds.

But if you want a midfielder who isn't there to attack and you've already picked Henderson, Rice and Bellingham - who are you picking instead?

I'd hope that Rice and Bellingham are starting, so it shouldn't make a massive difference either way but I don't think the flip of a coin between Phillips and Ward-Prowse landing on Phillips is that daft.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 10, 2022, 02:19:12 PM
Phillips yet to start for Man City.
As Gareth said he will always give consideration first to players playing regularly for their club... so Phillips and MaGuire in.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 10, 2022, 02:19:12 PM
I suppose he looks at it that Phillips has done well for him. You have to wonder how well he can do 90 minutes though. Dier I sort of understand, even though I don't overly rate him, he can play a couple of different positions. Rashford is meh, massively inconsistent these days.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: villadelph on November 10, 2022, 02:20:22 PM
Always been a really big England fan, but my interest in the Men's football team just diminished even further.

I currently can't decide between taking little or no interest or (secretly) hoping they perform poorly so that Southgate is gone sooner.

There's just no justifying his squad selections now. He has blown smoke up arses about merit and form, and then goes and picks multiple players who barely get game time for their clubs. CBs are a joke.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 10, 2022, 02:21:19 PM
Where is the "am I bothered" option?
same here after him leaving Mings out
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 10, 2022, 02:25:49 PM
Heís just said heís omitted Toney because his form isnít as good now as it has been. So heís picking Maguire for his ability to sit on a bench is it?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 10, 2022, 02:31:54 PM
Maguire has started 1 league game in 3 months. Toney hasn't scored for 3 league games. It's all about form.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 10, 2022, 02:49:01 PM
Matty Cash confirmed in Poland squad. No AVFC players in England squad

AVFC must have one of the lowest selections across all finals squads as things are panning out
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 10, 2022, 02:52:34 PM
Good. For a mid season WC Iím quite happy our players getting a little rest and team building with the new manager and coaches.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 10, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
To be fair to him he's said it's about form and also about what players have done for him in previous tournaments.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 10, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
Yep, we're all set to swap league-table positions with Newcastle by May. The future is claret and blue.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 10, 2022, 03:03:24 PM
Philips - barely kicked a ball.
MaGuire - dropped by his club for being in abysmal form.
Sterling - hasn't scored a league goal since August.
Gallagher - hasn't completed 90 minutes all season.

It's all about club form though, obviously.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: villabear on November 10, 2022, 03:21:35 PM
Mad in my opinion to take only two out and out centre forwards. Take Toney or Abraham and leave one of the defenders or midfielders who won't even feature.

After the Euro final penalty shootout surely Toney would be an ideal candidate to go though the betting allegations probably haven't helped his cause.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2022, 03:44:14 PM
Philips - barely kicked a ball.
MaGuire - dropped by his club for being in abysmal form.
Sterling - hasn't scored a league goal since August.
Gallagher - hasn't completed 90 minutes all season.

It's all about club form though, obviously.

Unless Southgate has said otherwise and I've missed it, I don't think anyone has ever claimed that it's ALL about club form. It's an important factor among many others, including experience, adaptability, comfort in a preferred system, squad harmony etc.

If it were exclusively based on club form, the line up for the first match would probably be something like:

Pope
Trippier
White
Guehi
Burn
Bellingham
Longstaff
Maddison
Saka
Lookman*
Wilson

Which I imagine people wouldn't be all that happy with either.

*although him declaring for Nigeria probably means he's unlikely to be part of the conversation.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 10, 2022, 03:47:11 PM
Why is he taking 4 Right backs?

TAA - hardly setting the world alight in 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' land
Walker - Good player but seems injured more often than not
Ben White - Having a decent season to be fair but not his natural position?
Trippier - currently the best on form



The man is a twat
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 10, 2022, 03:52:07 PM
Southgate is an honourable man, and I have no problem with him.
I don't see why there is so much criticism of him given that he oversaw England's best performance in the semifinals and championship final games of the World Cup and the European Championship.
Other nations would have been really happy with the semifinal and  Euro championship finishes because he adopted a plan that was considerably more appropriate for tournament football and used a collective strategy for the team and squad.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 10, 2022, 03:52:38 PM
Philips - barely kicked a ball.
MaGuire - dropped by his club for being in abysmal form.
Sterling - hasn't scored a league goal since August.
Gallagher - hasn't completed 90 minutes all season.

It's all about club form though, obviously.

Unless Southgate has said otherwise and I've missed it, I don't think anyone has ever claimed that it's ALL about club form. It's an important factor among many others, including experience, adaptability, comfort in a preferred system, squad harmony etc.


He said it specifically about Toney. Just like the last time he was full of contradictions.  "Has to be playing in the Premier" was his criteria then.  I wish they'd get rid now as I really want to see England do well.  Can't see it with this plank though.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 10, 2022, 03:52:58 PM
Philips - barely kicked a ball.
MaGuire - dropped by his club for being in abysmal form.
Sterling - hasn't scored a league goal since August.
Gallagher - hasn't completed 90 minutes all season.

It's all about club form though, obviously.

Unless Southgate has said otherwise and I've missed it, I don't think anyone has ever claimed that it's ALL about club form. It's an important factor among many others, including experience, adaptability, comfort in a preferred system, squad harmony etc.

If it were exclusively based on club form, the line up for the first match would probably be something like:

Pope
Trippier
White
Guehi
Burn
Bellingham
Longstaff
Maddison
Saka
Lookman
Wilson

Which I imagine people wouldn't be all that happy with either.

Of course it's not going to be only about club form but those 4 in particular are clearly completely out of form because they either have none or  are playing as poorly as they have for years.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bully2345 on November 10, 2022, 03:59:15 PM
Why is he taking 4 Right backs?

TAA - hardly setting the world alight in 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' land
Walker - Good player but seems injured more often than not
Ben White - Having a decent season to be fair but not his natural position?
Trippier - currently the best on form



The man is a twat

I can see reasons for all of his choices there

- Walker has regularly played right centre back when they use three centre backs. I'd say that formation is likely to get an outing or two in a tournament.
- Ben White has been playing right back but was a centre back until this season so good cover for that role.
- Trippier is likely to start but has also often played left back for England when there have been injuries. There is only one left back and i can't say that there is anyone outside of the squad better suited to left back cover.
- Because of that Trent Alexander Arnold makes sense as a reserve full back. Also adds dead ball threat if he has to deputise for Trippier. Yes he makes mistakes but his ability going forward is brilliant and again, I don't see anyone better who has missed out
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2022, 04:07:08 PM
I don't see anyone better who has missed out

That's really what it boils down to. I reckon there are a few players who can probably feel a bit aggrieved (Tomori being the main one) but it's hard to point to anyone who isn't going who has made a flawless case for why they should be.

The players who are in excellent form who people said might not be picked were Maddison and White, and both are going. So....*shrugs*
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: robleflaneur on November 10, 2022, 04:32:46 PM
It's the excuses that Southgate invents .With Toney,it's club form,without a goal in a massive 3 games.Raheem Sterling's recent goal scoring record does not not bear scrutiny.
Then his inclusion of Gallagher.He dropped him after the 4-0 battering by Hungary.He struggles to get in a below par Chelsea team but Southgate was impressed by his reaction after being dropped and with his attitude in the u21s.Does ability matter ? Shades of Jake Livermore,currently struggling to get in the Baggies side, who Southgate kept in the squad because he didn't complain when he didn't start.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pat Mustard on November 10, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
Eric Dier and Harry Maguire should be nowhere near the squad this time round.  Dier has pretty much always been shit, and Maguire has been atrocious for 12 months now and can barely get a kick at club level.  If you can get picked just because you haven't let England down in the past then why isn't Bobby Charlton in the squad?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PhilVill on November 10, 2022, 04:47:34 PM
The less Villa players in any of the squads the better, they can go abroad with a hugely competent manager and work on a style that benefits the squad ready for the New Year. As for the joke of a tournament thats on the way, I really couldn't care less.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Mister E on November 10, 2022, 05:12:41 PM
McGuire and TAA in the England squad says all you need to know.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on November 10, 2022, 05:12:54 PM
Wales squad

Goalkeepers: Wayne Hennessey (Nottingham Forest), Danny Ward (Leicester City), Adam Davies (Stoke City).

Defenders: Neco Williams (Nottingham Forest), Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur), Ben Cabango (Swansea City), Joe Rodon (Rennes, on loan from Tottenham Hotspur), Chris Mepham (Bournemouth), Ethan Ampadu (Spezia, on loan from Chelsea), Chris Gunter (AFC Wimbledon), Connor Roberts (Burnley), Tom Lockyer (Luton Town).

Midfielders: Aaron Ramsey (Nice), Joe Allen (Swansea City), Harry Wilson (Fulham), Joe Morrell (Portsmouth), Dylan Levitt (Dundee United), Rubin Colwill (Cardiff City), Jonny Williams (Swindon Town), Matthew Smith (Milton Keynes Dons), Sorba Thomas (Huddersfield Town).

Forwards: Gareth Bale (Los Angeles FC), Dan James (Fulham, on loan from Leeds United), Kieffer Moore (Bournemouth), Mark Harris (Cardiff City), Brennan Johnson (Nottingham Forest).



Good god that's a shite squad

Unbelievably happy to be there after a 64 wait, just a shame it's in a location where a lot of fans won't be able or won't want to go.  The squad is what it is, but it is a decent enough starting XI with everyone fit and getting out of the group is the aim really.  Everyone being fit is the key though as the quality drops considerably in certain areas after that.

The first two games (USA and Iran) are the big ones.  Four points out of those and the England game might not matter. 
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Mister E on November 10, 2022, 05:14:12 PM
Dendoncker confirmed in Belgian squad
And Eden Hazard who is rumputed to be on Villas radar.
A good world cup would mean several clubs would want him a bad one and then maybe not so much
I'm hoping 'rumputed' means "completely ruled out".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 10, 2022, 05:15:13 PM
Eric Dier, fucking hell.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 10, 2022, 05:18:05 PM
Eric Dier, fucking hell.

some prick on Twitter was arguing Mings shouldn't be in because he is an accident waiting to happen. Maybe so. But when slab head can't get into his club team because he's a complete liability and Eric Fucking Dier just handed Salah an easy goal at the weekend it derails any substantial argument against Mings.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 10, 2022, 05:19:02 PM
Southgate is an honourable man, and I have no problem with him.
I don't see why there is so much criticism of him given that he oversaw England's best performance in the semifinals and championship final games of the World Cup and the European Championship.
Other nations would have been really happy with the semifinal and  Euro championship finishes because he adopted a plan that was considerably more appropriate for tournament football and used a collective strategy for the team and squad.

Are you English?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Matt C on November 10, 2022, 05:24:35 PM
Couple more adventurous picks in there than I expected but I still think Mings can consider himself unlucky given the defensive selections.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Mister E on November 10, 2022, 05:24:36 PM
Eric Dier, fucking hell.
some prick on Twitter was arguing Mings shouldn't be in because he is an accident waiting to happen. Maybe so. But when slab head can't get into his club team because he's a complete liability and Eric Fucking Dier just handed Salah an easy goal at the weekend it derails any substantial argument against Mings.
There's the rub.

Purely on form, the best CB partnership is probably Coady and Tarkowski, but there was never a likelihood of the latter being picked.
A decent attacking side will mince England (France, Argentina for example).
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 10, 2022, 05:25:11 PM
"Southgate is an honourable man". Good Lord
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 10, 2022, 05:28:42 PM
He's really gonna slag him off in his next post, though. Getting very "friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears" vibes.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 10, 2022, 05:30:02 PM
"Southgate is an honourable man". Good Lord
He comes to bury Horseface, not to praise him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 10, 2022, 06:10:56 PM
"Southgate is an honourable man". Good Lord


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Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 10, 2022, 06:32:55 PM
Dendoncker confirmed in Belgian squad
And Eden Hazard who is rumputed to be on Villas radar.
A good world cup would mean several clubs would want him a bad one and then maybe not so much
I'm hoping 'rumputed' means "completely ruled out".
Well I hear rum more the re for reputed.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 11, 2022, 02:46:06 PM
Infant blarts about not getting involved in 'ideological and political disputes'.

But this isn't about that. It's about human rights, something bigger and more important than ideology
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 11, 2022, 04:54:57 PM
Iran USA and Wales.  I think USA is first up but Iím not entirely sure.  Kick offs no idea. 

It's Iran on 21st Nov 1pm, but I only know this because I saw a poster in my local earlier.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 11, 2022, 06:04:41 PM
I am delighted that the majority of the Villa squad will be at home for this WC. Itís such a stupid time with no break before the actual event unlike summer WCís. Players will get injured and miss time for their clubs. Youíre seeing players now get hurt and make magical recoveries so they can just be there. Which I get from their Perez tube but not good for their long term health. Our manager will get proper time with those who are left and we will wish the best for those who end up going.

Agreed. I hope any Villa players who are available and selected have a great tournament, because if we can avoid the kind of indirect tapping-up that Southgate carried out with Grealish, it's good news.

But whether it's England, France or Fiji, international football can fuck off, it's how they play for Villa that matters to me.
thinking that for a couple of years, it's Villa every time for me
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 06:15:10 PM
Are Iran fans segregated by gender in the tournament or is that only at home games?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 08:32:35 PM
Martinez named in Argentina squad, as expected, but Buendia misses out.

That's the full Villa list now confirmed, then:

🇦🇷ARGENTINA🇦🇷

Emiliano Martinez

🇧🇪BELGIUM🇧🇪

Leander Dendoncker

🇵🇱POLAND🇵🇱

Jan Bednarek
Matty Cash
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: villadelph on November 11, 2022, 08:34:41 PM
well.. that's kind of depressing.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
We could always announce a signing or two in advance of the transfer window to make it more exciting.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 11, 2022, 08:45:58 PM
Fuckin pitiful! Tinpot the nasty lads would say..but we'll have the last laugh in May...right?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 08:49:16 PM
In fairness we could easily have had another three in there if Digne, Kamara and Coutinho hadn't got injured.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: TheMalandro on November 11, 2022, 09:24:16 PM
Wonít be watching

With you on that.

I love the World Cup, but there is zero chance I will watch this year.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 11, 2022, 09:26:43 PM
We'd have a lot more if we hadn't had Gerrard as manager for a year.

And 1 more if Scotland weren't on a par with San Marino.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 09:28:04 PM
You're saying McGinn would get a game if they weren't on a par with San Marino? Wait until Risso sees that post, he's going to be seething.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 11, 2022, 09:31:17 PM
Have to say that Portugal are the team that I'm really despising this World Cup.

Bruno Fernandes, Ronaldo, Pepe and Moutinho to name a few of their loathsome players.

Iíve got them in the works sweep. Great bunch of lads.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 11, 2022, 09:48:15 PM
Anyone got the odds? Iíve googled but just get betting sites.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 11, 2022, 09:48:44 PM
Argentina squad. A relic like Di Maria is still knocking about in there.
(https://i.ibb.co/v4XT4b8/615-CA2-F7-E38-D-4253-918-D-502087-CF8-DCB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v4XT4b8)
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 09:53:57 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/64bxMRT/Screenshot-20221111-215212-bet365.jpg)
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 09:54:21 PM
FFS. I'm not sure why that hasn't worked. I will just type them.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 09:57:34 PM
From Bet365

Brazil 4
Argentina 11/2
France 6
England 8
Spain 17/2
Germany 10
Netherlands 12
Portugal 14
Belgium 16
Denmark 28
Croatia, Uruguay 50
Serbia 80
Switzerland 100
Senegal 125
Ecuador, Mexico, Poland, USA 150
Canada, Morocco, Wales 200
Cameroon, Ghana, Japan, Qatar, South Korea 250
Australia 350
Iran, Tunisia 500
Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia 750

Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 11, 2022, 10:04:42 PM
Cheers mate.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 11, 2022, 11:33:55 PM
Younger then Messi.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 11, 2022, 11:35:01 PM
Could someone merge this with the World Cup thread in "Other Football", please?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 12, 2022, 02:08:40 AM
Are Australia that shit?
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Rory on November 12, 2022, 03:41:10 AM
Are Australia that shit?

And why are Brazil & Argentina so high?

France, Belgium & England are my top three.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Bad English on November 12, 2022, 05:15:38 AM
France's midfield is the weakest they've ever fielded in the history of football.

Third star on the shirt for us then.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 12, 2022, 07:16:05 AM
I would make Qatar far and away the weakest side.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Axl Rose on November 12, 2022, 07:42:44 AM
I would make Qatar far and away the weakest side.

Though they did win the Asian Cup a few years back and looked handy against Japan. Will be interesting to see how they do.

You're probably right, though :D
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dave on November 12, 2022, 08:14:59 AM
Are Australia that shit?

And why are Brazil & Argentina so high?

France, Belgium & England are my top three.

Brazil in particular don't seem to have any obvious weaknesses.

Probably the strongest keeper / central defence combination in the tournament.  Solid midfield with loads of tournament-winning experience, and a really good, in-form attack.

Put it this way, a combined Brazil - Belgium team is probably Brazil + De Bruyne. Do the same with England and its probably Brazil + Kane.

Obviously these things don't always play out as expected. But they're favourites for good reason.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 12, 2022, 08:22:39 AM
They've spent twenty years bottling it as soon as they play a decent European team. And they failed to win Copa America. I think Argentina are South America's best chance.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 12, 2022, 08:24:09 AM
Are Australia that shit?

They seem to have a least three players who only play for Australia because they're nowhere near good enough to get in the Scotland squad. So, I'd say, yes. They seem to have some bottle though and did well to get past Peru in the playoffs.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dave on November 12, 2022, 08:34:29 AM
They've spent twenty years bottling it as soon as they play a decent European team. And they failed to win Copa America. I think Argentina are South America's best chance.

But like "England beating Germany in a knock-out game", "England winning on penalties" and "Villa winning at home against Man Utd", these things are only cruxes until they stop being so.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 12, 2022, 10:06:43 AM
I won't be watching, but that's not because of ethical reasons, I just don't enjoy international football. Respect to anyone who wants to watch and is boycotting, but I don't blame any ordinary fan for just wanting to watch some football. It's the decision-makers at fault.

Me neither, the jingoism and the once every two years wouldn't be seen dead on a wet Tuesday night in Barnsley etc tourists put me right off. Plus I just don't feel a massive tribal affinity to the country I just happen to have been born in
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: stubbsyandy on November 12, 2022, 10:22:39 AM
Iím rooting for Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 12, 2022, 12:56:32 PM
Son and Mane both named in their World Cup squads despite injury doubts.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 12, 2022, 01:07:38 PM
The only mancity player  from almost their entire first 18 not going to the WC is probably the best in the world.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 12, 2022, 02:45:23 PM
Argentina for Emi. Second, France for Lucas and Kamara.

Neither made the Frog Squad

ďWhen someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou

But would Maya have Yeltzer down as a Halesowen fan?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 12, 2022, 02:46:21 PM
Where is the "am I bothered" option?
no one could be bothered to add it
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Monty on November 12, 2022, 02:46:51 PM
Exactly right.

Winter World Cup = fine.

Winter World Cup where people are routinely beaten and imprisoned for speaking out, women are treated as second class citizens, sub-Saharan Africans who are scarcely more than slaves die building stadia and homosexuality is banned = not fine.

Hypocritically, though, I intend to watch pretty much all of it. I love the World Cup, even though (or perhaps because) Scotland are never in it. I'm too poor to afford an actual holiday so have saved all my annual leave for this.

I console myself in the knowledge that it's on free-to-air telly, I never watch adverts, and the myriad of sponsorships aren't really aimed at me. So I'm not contributing to the tournament/regime in any meaningful way. Refusing to watch when I already have the time off would be cutting my nose off to spite my face.

If others don't want to watch, that's perfectly fine, too.

Yes that's fine. I'm not boycotting the World Cup in a moralistic way, like the old South Africa boycotts where you try to encourage others to join in, often judgementally. I'm just not watching because it'll make me sick to do so. I kind of wish it didn't, but it's just ruined for me. If others are able to watch, more power to you.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 12, 2022, 02:53:57 PM
Theres no build up
the lack of overanalysed friendlies is a plus
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 12, 2022, 03:10:49 PM
Does it matter who wins?
Football is the winner here surely.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 12, 2022, 03:22:32 PM
I don't really care. The whole thing is tarnished and should never be taking place.

This


Plus Southgate is a ####
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 12, 2022, 03:55:35 PM
Everyone has to make a decision for themselves. But when you read anything about Blatter, then consider the levels of corruption that has gone on for years and years for all former major football tournaments. When you have corruption then innocent people are exploited. Maybe not to the extend as in Qatar but it happened. And same goes for the Olympics. So taking moralistic position is a personal choice but itís not like we all have turned our eye to other kinds of human exploitation in the past.

The bottom line is the WC for many reasons should never have been ďawardedĒ to Qatar. Way before you even tap into the societal, political and cultural arguments.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Rory on November 12, 2022, 04:35:22 PM
Are Australia that shit?

And why are Brazil & Argentina so high?

France, Belgium & England are my top three.

Brazil in particular don't seem to have any obvious weaknesses.

Probably the strongest keeper / central defence combination in the tournament.  Solid midfield with loads of tournament-winning experience, and a really good, in-form attack.

Put it this way, a combined Brazil - Belgium team is probably Brazil + De Bruyne. Do the same with England and its probably Brazil + Kane.

Obviously these things don't always play out as expected. But they're favourites for good reason.

Fair enough, I just don't like Brazil (the team, not the place or the people).
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Risso on November 12, 2022, 04:36:43 PM
Could we just have one World Cup thread in here please mods, and preferably one without all capital letters in the title.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 12, 2022, 06:41:48 PM
Bad English is spitting feathers so much about it, he hasn't even admonished a bollocking.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 12, 2022, 10:20:02 PM
He did.

The shouting in the thread title is really annoying.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: eamonn on November 13, 2022, 11:16:43 AM
Oh, right. Quite mild for him, mind. World-weary, I guess.
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: Dazvillain on November 13, 2022, 03:03:13 PM
Could we just have one World Cup thread in here please mods, and preferably one without all capital letters in the title.

I canít change the title sorryÖ.. delete the thread if you like.
It was an optimistic thread that was intended for us all to keep tabs on and comment about Villa players. Thinking that Mings and Watkins had outside chance plus maybe a couple of Brazilians and French selections but wasnít to be !
Title: Re: VILLANS WORLD CUP WATCH
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 13, 2022, 03:22:53 PM
You can change the thread title, just edit your initial post.
Title: Re: World Cup in Qatar
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 14, 2022, 08:25:08 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joelycett/status/1591767179707432960

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 14, 2022, 08:58:16 AM
He might be (nominally) a Baggie, but Joe is rapidly approaching national treasure status
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 14, 2022, 09:36:22 AM
Thatís superb and spot on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 14, 2022, 10:20:00 AM
Thatís fantastic.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 10:29:38 AM
"..and you married a Spice Girl, which is about the gayest thing a human being could do"

Great message and killer line right there.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 14, 2022, 10:31:30 AM
I hope he doesn't actually burn the money, mind.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 14, 2022, 12:51:41 PM
I think he won't as that goes against everything Joe stands for.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 14, 2022, 01:44:42 PM
Yeah, that's good.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 14, 2022, 09:04:24 PM
Have to say that Portugal are the team that I'm really despising this World Cup.

Bruno Fernandes, Ronaldo, Pepe and Moutinho to name a few of their loathsome players.

Iíve got them in the works sweep. Great bunch of lads.

Indeed. Expect them to knock out England who have a pretty easy run up to the semi-final. Brazil - Argentina is the other semi according to everybodies second favourite scouser, Jamie Carragher for the Telegraph. A Messi-Ronaldo final is the game of dreams for everybody, especially ADVILLAFAN. ;)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 14, 2022, 09:10:36 PM
I think Portugal might sneak this world cup.

Disastrous. It'll all be about Ronaldo.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 14, 2022, 09:12:16 PM
I'm with Our Kid, here, unfortunately. I'm sure there are lots of lovely people in Portugal, but Fernandes and Ronaldo are possibly the two biggest twats in all of football and they'd probably be my least favourite winners of all the teams.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 14, 2022, 09:14:01 PM
I'm with Our Kid, here, unfortunately. I'm sure there are lots of lovely people in Portugal, but Fernandes and Ronaldo are possibly the two biggest twats in all of football and they'd probably be my least favourite winners of all the teams.
they're full of bell ends.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 14, 2022, 09:16:06 PM
like Ruben Neves
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 14, 2022, 10:05:28 PM
Indeed. Expect them to knock out England who have a pretty easy run up to the semi-final.

If the favourites go through as expected, don't England play France in the quarters?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 14, 2022, 11:13:47 PM
Indeed. Expect them to knock out England who have a pretty easy run up to the semi-final.

If the favourites go through as expected, don't England play France in the quarters?

Denmark win their group on goal difference. France get knocked out by Argentina in the last 16. I'm not basing favourites on the UK bookies.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 14, 2022, 11:19:35 PM
That seems possible. But if Denmark are good enough to win their group by finishing above France, surely they wouldn't be a "pretty easy" opponent for England? They were very unlucky against England at the Euros last year and seem to have improved since while England have declined.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 14, 2022, 11:29:52 PM
It will probably be decided on a dodgy penalty, Saka will dive and Kane will bury the penalty in the 83rd minute.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2022, 09:10:49 AM
Indeed. Expect them to knock out England who have a pretty easy run up to the semi-final.

If the favourites go through as expected, don't England play France in the quarters?

Denmark win their group on goal difference. France get knocked out by Argentina in the last 16. I'm not basing favourites on the UK bookies.

Do "bookies" in other countries have a different list of favourites other than Brazil/ Argentina / France then?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 15, 2022, 09:13:33 AM
I'd imagine the only significant difference from country to country is that the home nation(s) in each case are likely to have slightly worse odds as more people will bet on them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2022, 09:16:57 AM
I'd imagine the only significant difference from country to country is that the home nation(s) in each case are likely to have slightly worse odds as more people will bet on them.

Indeed
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 15, 2022, 09:26:41 AM
I'd imagine they will be pretty much identical around the world. The likes of the big betting syndicates would be looking for arbitrage opportunities and so I would guess that that would even up the odds pretty quickly. A lot of the world wide betting companies are all based in the same few places anyway, eg Gib and the IOM.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 15, 2022, 09:41:25 AM
I'm with Our Kid, here, unfortunately. I'm sure there are lots of lovely people in Portugal, but Fernandes and Ronaldo are possibly the two biggest twats in all of football and they'd probably be my least favourite winners of all the teams.

Although they have shown at ManU that they can't seem to play together and be successful.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 15, 2022, 09:44:14 AM
Hopefully.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 15, 2022, 09:49:23 AM
Iím starting to warm to Fernandes, the person rather than the player. Whereas I hate Bolsonaro loving Neymar on and off the pitch, so would rather Brazil didnít win itÖ Other than them donít really care who does.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 15, 2022, 09:57:53 AM
Yeah, Neymar is a prick.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 15, 2022, 10:15:59 AM
Iím starting to warm to Fernandes, the person rather than the player. Whereas I hate Bolsonaro loving Neymar on and off the pitch, so would rather Brazil didnít win itÖ Other than them donít really care who does.

Yes I too was impressed the way he spoke when interviewed at the weekend. I like the person but not the player as a result although he is a very good player it has to be said. I wouldn't mind Portugal being successful in the WC as I like the country a great deal.  If England aren't to succeed then my support will go to any country which has Villa players and my preference will be Argentina if Emi is in goal.  I imagine there will be people from the south coast of the UK who will not want Argentina for the same reasons as some don't want Portugal because of two of their players. Christiano I have warmed to more for the way he's tarnished his legacy at ManU.  If I was a ManU fan I'd be mightily pissed off with his antics but as I'm not I feel it permissible to like him a little bit more than I have.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 15, 2022, 11:28:01 AM
I'd imagine they will be pretty much identical around the world. The likes of the big betting syndicates would be looking for arbitrage opportunities and so I would guess that that would even up the odds pretty quickly. A lot of the world wide betting companies are all based in the same few places anyway, eg Gib and the IOM.

Just had a look and you're right. Half a point here or there but pretty much identical. What a scam. I blame Paulie.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: RichardBatchelor on November 15, 2022, 11:32:29 AM
Iím starting to warm to Fernandes, the person rather than the player. Whereas I hate Bolsonaro loving Neymar on and off the pitch, so would rather Brazil didnít win itÖ Other than them donít really care who does.

Yes I too was impressed the way he spoke when interviewed at the weekend. I like the person but not the player as a result although he is a very good player it has to be said. I wouldn't mind Portugal being successful in the WC as I like the country a great deal.  If England aren't to succeed then my support will go to any country which has Villa players and my preference will be Argentina if Emi is in goal.  I imagine there will be people from the south coast of the UK who will not want Argentina for the same reasons as some don't want Portugal because of two of their players. Christiano I have warmed to more for the way he's tarnished his legacy at ManU.  If I was a ManU fan I'd be mightily pissed off with his antics but as I'm not I feel it permissible to like him a little bit more than I have.

Itís strange, really, seems a thoughtful, gentle and intelligent man off the pitch, yet behaves with such rank dishonour on it. Especially the head clutching after contact on a shin/ankle etc.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Nev on November 15, 2022, 11:46:05 AM
I like to separate the person from the Footballer. You see it with Joe, where he's criticised for his football related behavior someone will always point out some of the off the field, generous and heartfelt acts as some sort of mitigation. One doesn't cancel out the other, but one is far more important than the other.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 15, 2022, 11:48:08 AM
Often, the players we dislike the most are the ones we'd love if they were in our team. (Obvious exceptions being twats like Ben Mee).
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 15, 2022, 01:31:38 PM
Iím starting to warm to Fernandes, the person rather than the player. Whereas I hate Bolsonaro loving Neymar on and off the pitch, so would rather Brazil didnít win itÖ Other than them donít really care who does.

Yes I too was impressed the way he spoke when interviewed at the weekend. I like the person but not the player as a result although he is a very good player it has to be said. I wouldn't mind Portugal being successful in the WC as I like the country a great deal.  If England aren't to succeed then my support will go to any country which has Villa players and my preference will be Argentina if Emi is in goal.  I imagine there will be people from the south coast of the UK who will not want Argentina for the same reasons as some don't want Portugal because of two of their players. Christiano I have warmed to more for the way he's tarnished his legacy at ManU.  If I was a ManU fan I'd be mightily pissed off with his antics but as I'm not I feel it permissible to like him a little bit more than I have.

Itís strange, really, seems a thoughtful, gentle and intelligent man off the pitch, yet behaves with such rank dishonour on it. Especially the head clutching after contact on a shin/ankle etc.

Yeah agree, as far as I'm aware he's the only Premier League player, to hit out at Qatar along with Eriksen, who backed him up in the Sky interview.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 15, 2022, 01:32:41 PM
I would not want Rat face anywhere near Villa no matter how good some might think he is.

And surely anyone who has seen him live will not need an explanation as to why
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2022, 01:46:05 PM
Itís all good people as fans from all over the world have arrived in Qatar. Spot the Boca Juniors Ultras😂

https://9gag.com/gag/aNwdvn0
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 15, 2022, 02:04:17 PM
Itís all good people as fans from all over the world have arrived in Qatar. Spot the Boca Juniors Ultras😂

https://9gag.com/gag/aNwdvn0
That is so sad.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: villadelph on November 15, 2022, 03:00:08 PM
Itís all good people as fans from all over the world have arrived in Qatar. Spot the Boca Juniors Ultras😂

https://9gag.com/gag/aNwdvn0
That is so sad.

Their team is in the tournament..? How pathetic.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2022, 03:23:18 PM
I do hope that stadium workers and general street cleaning staff coerced to take part in this do get to keep the shirts however I wouldn't trust Qataris to be even slightly magnanimous to their "slaves".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 15, 2022, 03:38:48 PM
Today Iíll be supporting England and Argentina in the World Cup
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 15, 2022, 03:39:08 PM
I like to separate the person from the Footballer. You see it with Joe, where he's criticised for his football related behavior someone will always point out some of the off the field, generous and heartfelt acts as some sort of mitigation. One doesn't cancel out the other, but one is far more important than the other.
His  football related behaviour, you mean diving? . What he does and says  off the pitch is the problem.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Nev on November 15, 2022, 03:57:13 PM
I like to separate the person from the Footballer. You see it with Joe, where he's criticised for his football related behavior someone will always point out some of the off the field, generous and heartfelt acts as some sort of mitigation. One doesn't cancel out the other, but one is far more important than the other.
His  football related behaviour, you mean diving? . What he does and says  off the pitch is the problem.

What I meant was that the young lad will remember meeting him for the rest of his life whereas we'll all get over him acting like a twat on an open top bus pretty easily.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 15, 2022, 03:58:51 PM
Itís all good people as fans from all over the world have arrived in Qatar. Spot the Boca Juniors Ultras😂

https://9gag.com/gag/aNwdvn0
That is so sad.

Their team is in the tournament..? How pathetic.

That assumes that the apparently fake supporters are Qatari. They might be more imported workers
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 15, 2022, 04:03:24 PM
Iím finding it very hard to get excited about this WC. Maybe itís because it doesnít feel right due to it being played at this time of the year. However, Kane is saying heís going to bring the cup home together with his rainbow captains arm band.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 15, 2022, 05:43:06 PM
The head of FIFA said there should be a ceasefire in Ukraine while the WC is on.

Who the fuck does he think he is. Utter bellend.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 15, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
All together now, in no man's land...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2022, 10:24:26 PM
Nkunku out of the tournament for France following a training injury apparently.

That's a pretty big blow.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 15, 2022, 10:28:54 PM
Outfits by Ali Express.

I wonder how much theyíll lose on this shitshow, a very lot I hope.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2022, 11:59:40 PM
Marco Reus. Injuries have meant he's missed 4 of the last 5 Euro/WC tournaments.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 16, 2022, 12:04:42 AM
Marco Reus. Injuries have meant he's missed 4 of the last 5 Euro/WC tournaments.
Why canít that happen to Maguire?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 16, 2022, 03:01:13 AM
Marco Reus. Injuries have meant he's missed 4 of the last 5 Euro/WC tournaments.
Why canít that happen to Maguire?

Or pretty much any of the overrated twats that play for England.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 16, 2022, 03:26:10 AM
Marco Reus. Injuries have meant he's missed 4 of the last 5 Euro/WC tournaments.
Why canít that happen to Maguire?

Or pretty much any of the overrated twats that play for England.

Careful what you wish for, lads. You might get the likes of Maguire, Coady, Mount, Grealish, turning out in head bandages, a la Phil Jones.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 16, 2022, 05:44:50 AM
Boycotted.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SaddVillan on November 16, 2022, 12:58:52 PM
Totally selfishly and from a B6 6HE perspective, I want all those non-Villa Prem players in Qatar to come back knackered/injured or mentally worn out.

And for Emi to shithouse Argentina to victory.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 16, 2022, 01:13:36 PM
I will watch certain games only to keep my football fix alive until we beat Liverpool.

I hope Argentia win for one reason only - Messi

He needs to add this to the list of his achievements to be truly the GOAT

Oh and of course our Emi  ;)

England and that boring goofy prick Southgate can fail at first hurdle for all i care - might have been different if any of our lads had a sniff but without them i am simply not interested.

And i will certainly not be watching any England games in the pub surrounded by screaming women / kids and blokes who use the pub like they do at Christmas and know fuck all about football other than "come on Ingerland"
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: mallo on November 16, 2022, 01:25:48 PM
I was at Doha at a stopover about a month ago and there was 1 small bar (it's a big airport) selling beer for £20 a pint. If that's a reflection of the prices at the WC then we'll either see a) quiet undrunk crowds enjoying a family atmosphere or b) laaaaggger lovin footy fans throwing chairs at each other then shaking hands. The organisation in the airport was woeful as well - relatively quiet and it still took 30 mins to get through security. Oh and a bottle of water was £5.00 and a salad was £10. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 16, 2022, 01:29:20 PM
I will watch certain games only to keep my football fix alive until we beat Liverpool.

I hope Argentia win for one reason only - Messi

He needs to add this to the list of his achievements to be truly the GOAT

Oh and of course our Emi  ;)

England and that boring goofy prick Southgate can fail at first hurdle for all i care - might have been different if any of our lads had a sniff but without them i am simply not interested.

And i will certainly not be watching any England games in the pub surrounded by screaming women / kids and blokes who use the pub like they do at Christmas and know fuck all about football other than "come on Ingerland"

I'm with you on this
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SaddVillan on November 16, 2022, 02:29:28 PM
If there's any justice in the world, then the migrant slave workers will have built the main stadium so that immediately after the trophy has been presented and the teams are back on the pitch the VIP section falls apart taking Infantino and the rest of his "best interests of football" FIFA cronies with him
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: clash city rocker on November 16, 2022, 02:35:09 PM
I will watch certain games only to keep my football fix alive until we beat Liverpool.

I hope Argentia win for one reason only - Messi

He needs to add this to the list of his achievements to be truly the GOAT

Oh and of course our Emi  ;)

England and that boring goofy prick Southgate can fail at first hurdle for all i care - might have been different if any of our lads had a sniff but without them i am simply not interested.

And i will certainly not be watching any England games in the pub surrounded by screaming women / kids and blokes who use the pub like they do at Christmas and know fuck all about football other than "come on Ingerland"

I'm with you on this

I never watch football in the pub. If I am in a pub and a game is on that doesn't involve villa I don't take any notice of it.  I have been in times the villa are playing and can't stand the twats from our local little clubs supporting the opposition  even though they don't know who we are playing. The last time I watched villa in the pub was a few years ago against Liverpool. Liverpool scored and some dingle twat celebrated like wolves had just won the cup. Having had a few pints that was it for me. Before the landlord could say anything I said...sorry about that gaffer don't worry I'm off now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 16, 2022, 02:45:37 PM
I will watch certain games only to keep my football fix alive until we beat Liverpool.

I hope Argentia win for one reason only - Messi

He needs to add this to the list of his achievements to be truly the GOAT

Oh and of course our Emi  ;)

England and that boring goofy prick Southgate can fail at first hurdle for all i care - might have been different if any of our lads had a sniff but without them i am simply not interested.

And i will certainly not be watching any England games in the pub surrounded by screaming women / kids and blokes who use the pub like they do at Christmas and know fuck all about football other than "come on Ingerland"

I'm with you on this

I'd like Argentina to win, Messi and Martinez to shine.

Poland and Belgium to get knocked out early....

England to go all the way to the Semi and be involved in lots of games with extra time to knacker them all out.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: trinityoap on November 16, 2022, 02:59:08 PM
Icould have written exactly the same as Clash.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 16, 2022, 03:21:40 PM
I will watch certain games only to keep my football fix alive until we beat Liverpool.

I hope Argentia win for one reason only - Messi

He needs to add this to the list of his achievements to be truly the GOAT

Oh and of course our Emi  ;)

England and that boring goofy prick Southgate can fail at first hurdle for all i care - might have been different if any of our lads had a sniff but without them i am simply not interested.

And i will certainly not be watching any England games in the pub surrounded by screaming women / kids and blokes who use the pub like they do at Christmas and know fuck all about football other than "come on Ingerland"

What a Tinder bio that would be "Boring, goofy prick"  ;D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 16, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Just a reminder of what utter fucking scrotes the hosts are.

 Danish TV crew threatened live on air. (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/16/qatar-world-cup-organisers-apologise-after-threats-to-danish-television-crew?)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 16, 2022, 04:07:11 PM
Just a reminder of what utter fucking scrotes the hosts are.

 Danish TV crew threatened live on air. (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/16/qatar-world-cup-organisers-apologise-after-threats-to-danish-television-crew?)

and https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/08/qatar-world-cup-ambassador-homosexuality (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/08/qatar-world-cup-ambassador-homosexuality)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 16, 2022, 04:46:33 PM
Found this online this morning.

Total costs of hosting FIFA World Cup

USA 1994 $0.5 Bn
France 1998 $2.3 Bn
Japan 2002 $7 Bn
Germany 2006 $4.3 Bn
South Africa 2010 $3.6 Bn
Brazil 2014 $15 Bn
Russia 2018 $11.6 Bn
Qatar 2022 $220 Bn

I hope it bankrupts them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 16, 2022, 04:48:33 PM
If it does, it won't affect any of the people that deserve punishment.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 16, 2022, 04:48:58 PM
It's loose fucking change to them though isn't it?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 16, 2022, 05:00:25 PM
It's a bottomless pit of filthy oil blood money, it won't bankrupt them of course, they'll just laugh and shrug it off, stick another $ on a barrell of oil and flick the Vs at the west.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 16, 2022, 05:11:37 PM
We are about to do a deal with them to import gas so that will probably pay for it in the next  few years.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 16, 2022, 05:19:15 PM
If there's any justice in the world, then the migrant slave workers will have built the main stadium so that immediately after the trophy has been presented and the teams are back on the pitch the VIP section falls apart taking Infantino and the rest of his "best interests of football" FIFA cronies with him
The poor buggers who build their gleaming stadiums and their glass covered towers live here:

(https://i.ibb.co/hHNcDQm/3-AF38-F4-E-0-CC8-4119-96-E8-DB71-C3-C54075.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hHNcDQm)

how do i make my image high resolution (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 16, 2022, 07:42:57 PM
Pretty clear now why Toney didn't go and Wilson got the nod!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lucky Eddie on November 16, 2022, 08:16:57 PM
First major tournament since 1978 that I don't know one single person who's going.

Absolutely no excitement for this shitshow but Good luck England all the same!

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 16, 2022, 08:53:57 PM
I don't like Southgate.
I don't like half of the players.
Pick players on form he said - Maguire, Sterling, Phillips, Grealish etc - load of bollocks.
Qatar.

Too many reasons to be a bit meh about this world cup
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 16, 2022, 09:12:39 PM
I think if a number of fans are treated badly by the Qatar police etc.  Then I can see teams pulling out. 
It could collapse. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: clash city rocker on November 16, 2022, 09:34:12 PM
I think if a number of fans are treated badly by the Qatar police etc.  Then I can see teams pulling out. 
It could collapse.

Nah..too much money at stake.. The Flithy lucre.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 16, 2022, 10:08:48 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63651308
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 16, 2022, 11:10:23 PM
There is going to be a protest at the England v Iran game. 
By Iranians against the regime.
Being discussed on BBC Newsnight. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 16, 2022, 11:11:54 PM
Good for them. It would be good if they agreed to pause at a certain point in the game. Less likely to miss it as the broadcaster is showing adverts, then.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 16, 2022, 11:35:41 PM
It's a bottomless pit of filthy oil blood money, it won't bankrupt them of course, they'll just laugh and shrug it off, stick another $ on a barrell of oil and flick the Vs at the west.
With 1.7% of the world's production they can't control the price. UK has just over 1%.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 16, 2022, 11:52:24 PM
The £180 per night fans hotel looks like something left over by the Fyre fest. Horrendous.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 17, 2022, 10:57:32 AM
I can't say I have always been a religious follower of every world cup finals, however I cannot recall a previous competition when so many of the top rated countries had so many players in their squads whose best years are so far behind them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 17, 2022, 11:25:31 AM
The £180 per night fans hotel looks like something left over by the Fyre fest. Horrendous.

Read someone, journo I think, say that he reckons this is a disaster waiting to happen - described it as Fyre Fest and Woodstock 99 combined.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 17, 2022, 11:41:59 AM
I can't say I have always been a religious follower of every world cup finals, however I cannot recall a previous competition when so many of the top rated countries had so many players in their squads whose best years are so far behind them.

Apart from the obvious of Messi and Ronaldo, who else springs to mind? Brazil's best players are pretty young and in-form. France are set up to support a 23 year old who is one of the best players in the world. Spain and Germany have ditched pretty much all of their old-guard to concentrate on youth.

It's probably a fair accusation for Croatia and Belgium. But then if you're a pretty small country with a once-in-a-generation set of players, it's probably unfair to expect players of the same quality to follow them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 17, 2022, 12:18:47 PM
Brazil have Alves and Silva who are both very late 30s, and five other players in their 30s in their squad. As well as Ronaldo, Portugal have Pepe who is 39. Lewandowski for Poland is 34.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 17, 2022, 02:17:35 PM
Weirdly I saw a big brewdog poster. Proud anti-sponsor of the world cups in Russia and Qatar. With the stories of their founder / ceo, I would have thought they would have supported treating women as second class and bullying people at the bottom of the employee chain.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AV82EC on November 17, 2022, 06:15:26 PM
Weirdly I saw a big brewdog poster. Proud anti-sponsor of the world cups in Russia and Qatar. With the stories of their founder / ceo, I would have thought they would have supported treating women as second class and bullying people at the bottom of the employee chain.

Saw that this morning, and immediately thought oh the irony.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 17, 2022, 06:28:18 PM
It's such a shame that at least two matches a day kick off during school day. It's normally round about the age of 10/11 when football really hits you or it was for me. Mexico 1970 was first ever WC I remember and I was totally smitten, especially by that great Brazilian team. A lot of football will be played during school day and evening games kicking off at 7 may be a bit too late during the school week.  This impacts, negatively,  all around the world not just Europe because almost everywhere it's school term time. Well done FIFA.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 17, 2022, 07:42:48 PM
Mane ruled out, disaster for Senegal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BoVillan esq on November 17, 2022, 08:55:24 PM
We are about to do a deal with them to import gas so that will probably pay for it in the next  few years.

In One, dig deep people, we are about to pay for a World Cup tournament.

Bearing in mind how much pain these Dune warriors inflict one way or the other, on just about everybody, I couldn't give a crap who wins it frankly, including England, one thing I ask of the England players, if you want to show solidarity with the people they represent, don't just go down on one knee, go down on 2 knees and cup your hands in protest, just the right platform to show the whole planet. If that means we get kicked out, so what.

Pushed to pick a winner, Argentina and for the reasons already said, Messi.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on November 17, 2022, 09:19:10 PM
A couple of withdrawals from the Argentina squad, 2 attackers, Nicolas Gonzalez and Joaquin Correa.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: clash city rocker on November 17, 2022, 10:29:39 PM
My first bet of the tournament.  Tunisia to finish bottom of their group...evens money
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 17, 2022, 10:37:23 PM
I have bets on Denmark, Switzerland, England and Spain and an unlikely one on Germany to go out in the groups, again.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 17, 2022, 11:14:29 PM
I have bets on Denmark, Switzerland, England and Spain and an unlikely one on Germany to go out in the groups, again.

It could happen, mate. Germany, I mean.

I hope they beat Japan, as the media here do my nut in with their squealing, but wouldn't be shocked to see Japan get a result. They do have a Southgate style manager however.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 18, 2022, 12:00:44 AM
My theory is everyone beats Costa Rica, Japan get at least a draw with Germany, Spain beat Germany and send out the reserves in their final match allowing Japan to get a draw and sneak through in second place.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: stubbsyandy on November 18, 2022, 12:13:03 AM
Fucks given: zero
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 18, 2022, 12:26:43 AM
Mane ruled out, disaster for Senegal.
Yeah it is, will probably be playing England in the last 16.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 18, 2022, 12:30:50 AM
Wouldn't be amazed to see Qatar get through that group now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 18, 2022, 05:55:04 AM
Wouldn't be amazed to see Qatar get through that group now.
I'm sure the refereeing will be impartial.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: steamer on November 18, 2022, 07:14:02 AM
I see this morning that the Royal family is saying, a total ban on alcohol sales at stadiums
Let the good times roll
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: IFWaters on November 18, 2022, 08:02:53 AM
There should be a UN list of countries that are banned from hosting international sports and cultural events for abuses of basic human rights. That would stop the corruption that allows the clowns and criminals like Blatter et al awarding tournaments to gleaming shitholes like this. And Russia, and China. What next the Winter Olympics from Pyongyang who promise to export a nuclear winter if they don't get it? It is the politicians fault for allowing this to happen in the first place. FIFA act as a law unto themselves and they have been allowed to get away with it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Mister E on November 18, 2022, 08:49:44 AM
It's such a shame that at least two matches a day kick off during school day. It's normally round about the age of 10/11 when football really hits you or it was for me. Mexico 1970 was first ever WC I remember and I was totally smitten, especially by that great Brazilian team. A lot of football will be played during school day and evening games kicking off at 7 may be a bit too late during the school week.  This impacts, negatively,  all around the world not just Europe because almost everywhere it's school term time. Well done FIFA.
With TV on demand, I'm sure no one will miss out if they want to see games.
Mexico '70 was indeed amazing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 18, 2022, 09:07:27 AM
It's such a shame that at least two matches a day kick off during school day. It's normally round about the age of 10/11 when football really hits you or it was for me. Mexico 1970 was first ever WC I remember and I was totally smitten, especially by that great Brazilian team. A lot of football will be played during school day and evening games kicking off at 7 may be a bit too late during the school week.  This impacts, negatively,  all around the world not just Europe because almost everywhere it's school term time. Well done FIFA.
With TV on demand, I'm sure no one will miss out if they want to see games.
Mexico '70 was indeed amazing.
The best ever, only Italia 90 got close but let down by a real shit Final.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 18, 2022, 09:14:07 AM
Unless they hold all the matches at the weekend or on Christmas Day, struggling to see how they could have held the tournament in such a way that nobody in the world was at school. The kids will mostly get to watch England and/or Wales games at school anyway, I imagine.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AV82EC on November 18, 2022, 09:24:51 AM
It's such a shame that at least two matches a day kick off during school day. It's normally round about the age of 10/11 when football really hits you or it was for me. Mexico 1970 was first ever WC I remember and I was totally smitten, especially by that great Brazilian team. A lot of football will be played during school day and evening games kicking off at 7 may be a bit too late during the school week.  This impacts, negatively,  all around the world not just Europe because almost everywhere it's school term time. Well done FIFA.
With TV on demand, I'm sure no one will miss out if they want to see games.
Mexico '70 was indeed amazing.
The best ever, only Italia 90 got close but let down by a real shit Final.

I loved Italia 90, itís what got me into Football after it really only being a fringe interest for me prior to that. The final was shit but the way Argentina shithoused their way there was unbelievable after they got gubbed by Cameroon. Amazing memories, Platt and Gascoigne, Rijkaard gobbing on Muller, Toto Schillaci, roger Milla, the football wasnít always the highest quality but a memorable tournament for so many reasons. In my view nothing has come close since.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on November 18, 2022, 09:32:59 AM
Thereís a 3 part documentary on Ch4 about Italia 90. Only just started it but a mate reckoned it was good
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on November 18, 2022, 09:36:34 AM
Unless they hold all the matches at the weekend or on Christmas Day, struggling to see how they could have held the tournament in such a way that nobody in the world was at school. The kids will mostly get to watch England and/or Wales games at school anyway, I imagine.

Yeah weíve had an email from my daughters school saying that those who want to watch the game on Monday will be able to. Iím sure sheíll want to know why she canít come home as she has no interest in football.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 18, 2022, 09:37:29 AM
Oh, Italia 90.

I was 10 years old and I really thought England could win the World Cup. I remember after being really pissed off that I'd have to wait another four whole years before we could win it...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 18, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
Thereís a 3 part documentary on Ch4 about Italia 90. Only just started it but a mate reckoned it was good

There's also a 3-part doc about Italia 90 on Sky - Four Weeks That Changed the World. Itís good.
 
I thought the world cup itself was pretty average though. As the documentary makes clear, it is remembered now for being the point when Ďmodern footballí was born.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 18, 2022, 10:55:58 AM
No alcohol in stadiums just announced.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2022, 11:17:24 AM
No alcohol in stadiums just announced.

It was announced at 7:14 this morning.

I see this morning that the Royal family is saying, a total ban on alcohol sales at stadiums
Let the good times roll
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 18, 2022, 11:25:46 AM
What a shitty world cup. Morons
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 18, 2022, 11:27:13 AM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 18, 2022, 11:33:43 AM
What a shitty world cup. Morons
Yup, they are total ****** but it's the slaves (sorry workers) they had recruited to serve in the bars I feel sorry for. I am sure the well off fans  travelling there can do without wasting money and spilling beer all over the place as is the norm at football venues.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 18, 2022, 11:37:38 AM
What a shitty world cup. Morons
Yup, they are total ****** but it's the slaves (sorry workers) they had recruited to serve in the bars I feel sorry for. I am sure the well off fans  travelling there can do without wasting money and spilling beer all over the place as is the norm at football venues.

Same here, mate. Agree with every word you say.

I can't say I'm massively enthused about this world cup. Hate the England team, manager, and pretty much every squad member. Can't stand the Japanese team and the rampant nationalistic crap the press comes out with here...

ah fuck it, I'll just support Mexico. A country I like at least :D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 18, 2022, 11:40:32 AM
Holland to win it
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 18, 2022, 11:44:10 AM
No alcohol in stadiums just announced.

It was announced at 7:14 this morning.

I see this morning that the Royal family is saying, a total ban on alcohol sales at stadiums
Let the good times roll

Given that Denmark fans were throwing beer everywhere every time they got a corner at the Euros, this seems fair enough. I don't see why Muslims should get covered in beer. Blame the twats who can't have a drink without throwing it everywhere (as per the concourse at any away game) more than the Qataris for this.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 18, 2022, 11:44:10 AM
Holland to win it
Now you are being silly. I will support our Emi.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 18, 2022, 11:49:28 AM
Holland to win it
Now you are being silly. I will support our Emi.

Haha. Urgh.

No, can't support them :D

Wales for my mum it is!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 18, 2022, 11:57:47 AM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.

Bud Light is the best beer going.

....which may be the most controversial thing I've ever posted on this site  ;D

I hope Budweiser sue FIFA for every penny they can
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: amfy on November 18, 2022, 12:09:09 PM
I am allowing myself a small smile at those who didnít want politics brought into The World Cup on the basis of LGBTQ laws and human rights abuses are now outraged by the alcohol ban and finally objecting to the World Cup being held in that Ďshitholeí country.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2022, 12:34:19 PM
However, it seems alcohol is still available in the "Risso" boxes so Cleverly and all the others telling us "Qatar is great" won't be affected.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 18, 2022, 12:34:29 PM
I am allowing myself a small smile at those who didnít want politics brought into The World Cup on the basis of LGBTQ laws and human rights abuses are now outraged by the alcohol ban and finally objecting to the World Cup being held in that Ďshitholeí country.

Yep, looking like having a drink is far more important than...well... people  ::)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 18, 2022, 12:55:43 PM
Yep, I will make one of my incredibly popular lists to help people.

Legitimate reasons to oppose World Cup being hosted in Qatar

1. Lack of recognition of LGBT rights
2. Draconian legal system
3. No respect for freedom of speech
4. Endemic corruption during the bidding process
5. Women treated as second class citizens
6. Employees responsible for infrastructure are often little more than slave labour
7. Thousands of people killed due to Qatar not giving the slightest shit about workers' rights

Not legitimate reasons to oppose World Cup being hosted in Qatar

1. Global football tournaments should only be held at a time that doesn't mildly inconvenience wealthy clubs in Europe
2. Somebody might have to go two hours without a drink and won't be able to throw beer at people if their team scores
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 18, 2022, 01:02:01 PM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.

At least their Twitter admin had a brief moment of fun with a post saying 'Well this is awkward' before it got taken down.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Nev on November 18, 2022, 01:09:37 PM
However, it seems alcohol is still available in the "Risso" boxes so Cleverly and all the others telling us "Qatar is great" won't be affected.

So to dress it up as a decision on religious grounds is palpable nonsense.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 18, 2022, 01:21:29 PM
However, it seems alcohol is still available in the "Risso" boxes so Cleverly and all the others telling us "Qatar is great" won't be affected.

I wasn't sure what you were talking about and for a moment assumed Risso had added a lucrative "smuggling moonshine in shipping containers to Qatar" operation to his business empire
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
However, it seems alcohol is still available in the "Risso" boxes so Cleverly and all the others telling us "Qatar is great" won't be affected.

I wasn't sure what you were talking about and for a moment assumed Risso had added a lucrative "smuggling moonshine in shipping containers to Qatar" operation to his business empire

He might have gone all Nucky, but more it was reported the corporate boxes were not going to be affected by the decision, and I believe he is the only one* on here to admit he has (had(?)) one.

*Now the other person who did is persona-non-grata.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2022, 01:31:08 PM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.

Bud Zero is still being sold.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 18, 2022, 01:31:43 PM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.

Agree I wouldn't pay 50p for the rubbish, let alone £12.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 18, 2022, 01:40:01 PM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.
Like making love in a canoe.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: shirley_villan on November 18, 2022, 01:44:22 PM
I think the case has always been that alcohol is banned inside the stadiums (the seating areas), but the announcement this morning is that it wonít be sold on the concourse areas outside either. Either way, to announce it two days before is a fucking shambles, as is everything about this joke of a World Cup.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 18, 2022, 01:48:59 PM
Yep, I will make one of my incredibly popular lists to help people.

Legitimate reasons to oppose World Cup being hosted in Qatar

1. Lack of recognition of LGBT rights
2. Draconian legal system
3. No respect for freedom of speech
4. Endemic corruption during the bidding process
5. Women treated as second class citizens
6. Employees responsible for infrastructure are often little more than slave labour
7. Thousands of people killed due to Qatar not giving the slightest shit about workers' rights
8. Its 40 degrees
9. They have absolutely no connection with the Game.

Not legitimate reasons to oppose World Cup being hosted in Qatar

1. Global football tournaments should only be held at a time that doesn't mildly inconvenience wealthy clubs in Europe
2. Somebody might have to go two hours without a drink and won't be able to throw beer at people if their team scores
3. Richard Keys lives there?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 18, 2022, 01:52:16 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 18, 2022, 02:03:15 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.

Are there any bars or pubs within a mile of any of the host stadiums in Qatar though?

In fact, is there anything at all, except MMFD?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 18, 2022, 02:06:53 PM
I'm confused. Are they banning sales of beer, or Budweiser?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 18, 2022, 02:08:42 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.

Are there any bars or pubs within a mile of any of the host stadiums in Qatar though?

In fact, is there anything at all, except MMFD?

Naff all! Maybe a few hotel bars but apparently they're closed to non residents for the period.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lsvilla on November 18, 2022, 02:09:35 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.
Except there are no bars and pubs in Qatar - outside of the 5 star hotels anyways.
I'm surprised people ever thought that alcohol would be available freely in Qatar. It isn't in the more westernised emirate of Dubai, and when I went to Lahore to watch the cricket I never for one second expected to be able to get beer outside of my hotel bar - a bar they don't even advertise as existing on their website and is hidden away on the second floor with no external signage to tell you it exists. Good once you got in mind !
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 18, 2022, 02:17:51 PM
I suspect Qatar have seen what happens in Dubai & Bahrain when Arabs go on the lash in hotels and drive home pissed in their Lamborghini's with Russian whores hanging off them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 18, 2022, 02:25:11 PM
Yep, I will make one of my incredibly popular lists to help people.

Legitimate reasons to oppose World Cup being hosted in Qatar
1A. Indigenous Qataris are the most inherently horrifically racist people on this earth.
1. Lack of recognition of LGBT rights
2. Draconian legal system
3. No respect for freedom of speech
4. Endemic corruption during the bidding process
5. Women treated as second class citizens
6. Employees responsible for infrastructure are often little more than slave labour
7. Thousands of people killed due to Qatar not giving the slightest shit about workers' rights

Not legitimate reasons to oppose World Cup being hosted in Qatar

1. Global football tournaments should only be held at a time that doesn't mildly inconvenience wealthy clubs in Europe
2. Somebody might have to go two hours without a drink and won't be able to throw beer at people if their team scores
Good list...now ;D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2022, 02:27:26 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.
Except there are no bars and pubs in Qatar - outside of the 5 star hotels anyways.
I'm surprised people ever thought that alcohol would be available freely in Qatar. It isn't in the more westernised emirate of Dubai, and when I went to Lahore to watch the cricket I never for one second expected to be able to get beer outside of my hotel bar - a bar they don't even advertise as existing on their website and is hidden away on the second floor with no external signage to tell you it exists. Good once you got in mind !

I don't believe people thought it would be freely available. Just sold under license under certain conditions like within the ground as told by FIFA etc. However, that option has suddenly been taken away at the last second for the majority of fans. Now I would be happy for no externally based fans to decide to go there and the ground to be empty which would show what most of the football world thought of this hosting decision. But unfortunately, that won't be the case. So now I hope the shitty decision to host it there backfires on FIFA even more with Budweiser, who I suspect were guaranteed certain things like beer being sold suing the fuck out of FIFA. Even if they should have pulled out as a sponsor anyway.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 18, 2022, 02:27:45 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.
Except there are no bars and pubs in Qatar - outside of the 5 star hotels anyways.
I'm surprised people ever thought that alcohol would be available freely in Qatar. It isn't in the more westernised emirate of Dubai, and when I went to Lahore to watch the cricket I never for one second expected to be able to get beer outside of my hotel bar - a bar they don't even advertise as existing on their website and is hidden away on the second floor with no external signage to tell you it exists. Good once you got in mind !

I'm not suggesting there are bars around the stadiums in Qatar, part of the deal with Budweiser is that's the ONLY beer that can be sold within a mile of the stadium, which when you're in one of the beer capitals of the world, Germany, is a bit shit to say the least, hence why I'm happy to see Budweiser sufferalong with FIFA.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 18, 2022, 02:30:05 PM
I'm confused. Are they banning sales of beer, or Budweiser?
<<like>>
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 18, 2022, 02:47:00 PM
I don't have a problem if they don't want alcohol sold. It's their country and culture, doesn't infringe anyone's rights or dignity, and if you go there you have to respect that.  I do think it's poor that they have apparently changed the policy after fans have bought tickets and made travel arrangements though.

And of course it's still going to be on sale in the corporate boxes as that's where FIFA's people and their chums will be, as well as all the people FIFA's employees sold their tickets to at a huge personal profit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lsvilla on November 18, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
Having been to a few games at the World Cup in Germany and seen the impact of FIFA WC sponsorship by Budweiser on the bars and pubs within a mile of host stadiums, this is a great decision by the Qatari Royal Family. Hard luck Budweiser.
Except there are no bars and pubs in Qatar - outside of the 5 star hotels anyways.
I'm surprised people ever thought that alcohol would be available freely in Qatar. It isn't in the more westernised emirate of Dubai, and when I went to Lahore to watch the cricket I never for one second expected to be able to get beer outside of my hotel bar - a bar they don't even advertise as existing on their website and is hidden away on the second floor with no external signage to tell you it exists. Good once you got in mind !

I'm not suggesting there are bars around the stadiums in Qatar, part of the deal with Budweiser is that's the ONLY beer that can be sold within a mile of the stadium, which when you're in one of the beer capitals of the world, Germany, is a bit shit to say the least, hence why I'm happy to see Budweiser sufferalong with FIFA.
Sorry. My mistake. Agree about Budweiser by the way.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 18, 2022, 03:10:39 PM
David Squires : We're really doing this then, are we?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/nov/18/david-squires-on-qatar-2022-world-cup-were-really-doing-this-then-are-we



Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 18, 2022, 03:21:27 PM
For balance

I would imagine that the Qataris are pissed off that everyone and anyone is having a go at them across every subject they can think off.

I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves. The biggest protest was to not go - i do not have much sympathy for any piss head who has gone and now cannot get hammered.

I am sure there will be stories of normal, sober folk that have gone and will have a brilliant time, albeit a very expensive one.

No one was forced to go!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 18, 2022, 03:27:30 PM
 "Fifa World Cup Qatar  2022ô️".
Bellends
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 18, 2022, 03:29:55 PM
I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves.

Says who?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 18, 2022, 03:34:06 PM
I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves.

Says who?

Beat me to it. It's like respecting freedom of speech, it only works up to a point. So no, I don't remotely respect imprisoning gay people or treating migrant workers like slaves and working the until they drop dead.

On the alcohol point, of course it's their country to implement alcohol rules as they see fit, but they applied for the World Cup on the basis that alcohol would be for sale in the stadiums.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 18, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
For balance

I would imagine that the Qataris are pissed off that everyone and anyone is having a go at them across every subject they can think off.

I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves. The biggest protest was to not go - i do not have much sympathy for any piss head who has gone and now cannot get hammered.

I am sure there will be stories of normal, sober folk that have gone and will have a brilliant time, albeit a very expensive one.

No one was forced to go!

There is a spectrum here, you can go to football have a couple of drinks without getting off your face.  I think the agreement was there would be alcohol at the stadiums  They have now moved the goalposts.  I imagine Budweiser must be chuffed to bits   
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 18, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
Last night on Sky Sports it showed the first English fans who had arrived in Qatar. They said it in all seriousness. Sort of summed up this whole charade.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2022, 03:44:07 PM
On the alcohol point, of course it's their country to implement alcohol rules as they see fit, but they applied for the World Cup on the basis that alcohol would be for sale in the stadiums.

They applied and were awarded the World Cup on lots of criteria that they have now reneged on. This is just another in a long list.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 18, 2022, 04:02:00 PM
At the end of the day, people at FIFA will be making a load of money. They don't really care what promises were reneged on or not as long as they have both trotters in the trough.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 18, 2022, 04:02:25 PM
The same Budweiser that has had 100 trademark cases thrown at it since 1907 by the real Budweiser company? My heart bleeds purple piss.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: villadelph on November 18, 2022, 05:21:36 PM
Is there any truth to the rumor that Qatar had offered Ecuadorian players millions of pounds to throw the first match?

https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 18, 2022, 05:24:08 PM
Looks like Pochettino turned us down for the BBC. Gutted...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 18, 2022, 05:24:33 PM
Is there any truth to the rumor that Qatar had offered Ecuadorian players millions of pounds to throw the first match?

https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html
Those fine upstanding people from Qatar? How dare you sir.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 18, 2022, 05:46:53 PM
The same Budweiser that has had 100 trademark cases thrown at it since 1907 by the real Budweiser company? My heart bleeds purple piss.

Budweiser is in indeed vile rancid goat piss and it's typical that so many Americans lap it up as being the height of sophistication.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 18, 2022, 07:12:52 PM
Lovely goal for Trez in a friendly vs Belgium. Turkey won 2-1

https://twitter.com/tybracey/status/1593651213672800256?s=46&t=IpqTyDWccleGiblajWe3ig
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 18, 2022, 07:21:47 PM
Lovely to see, but lordy that Belgium back line was all over the shop!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 18, 2022, 09:06:08 PM
I didnít even know Budweiser was the main beer sponsor until this
their name is all over the news, social media, fan forums etc, so they might squirm and moan a bit but secretly theyíll be loving the attention
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 18, 2022, 09:48:19 PM
Yep, a chance to plug Bud Zero. Can you imagine how appalling that stuff is? 

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hJdV5c0ECBY/UCAuEL4G9_I/AAAAAAAAKjg/FF3KWKvVyi8/s1600/DuffBrewery.jpg)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 18, 2022, 09:52:34 PM
Yep, a chance to plug Bud Zero. Can you imagine how appalling that stuff is? 

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hJdV5c0ECBY/UCAuEL4G9_I/AAAAAAAAKjg/FF3KWKvVyi8/s1600/DuffBrewery.jpg)

They'll probably sell the real stuff as Bud Zero and nobody would be any the wiser.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 18, 2022, 10:03:09 PM
Lovely goal for Trez in a friendly vs Belgium. Turkey won 2-1

https://twitter.com/tybracey/status/1593651213672800256?s=46&t=IpqTyDWccleGiblajWe3ig

Egypt have been robbed there.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 18, 2022, 11:04:00 PM
I wonder when that'll happen to alcohol advertising - alcohol abuse in this country is on a scale that dwarfs gambling addiction.

The Qataris doing their bit after reading PW's post, fair play!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Mellin on November 19, 2022, 12:10:25 AM
Reading a WORLD CUP Guardian journalist predictions article and Louise Taylor (we talked about her on here recently) picked breakthrough player as...Guimaraes. That is beyond parody.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 19, 2022, 07:24:53 AM
I hadnít watched that embarrassing video of Ďfansí mocked up by Qatar all the way through until this morning and then I noticed something maybe youíve seen and noted already or maybe not. No women in it, none.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 19, 2022, 07:29:51 AM
Reading a WORLD CUP Guardian journalist predictions article and Louise Taylor (we talked about her on here recently) picked breakthrough player as...Guimaraes. That is beyond parody.

Without going on Google, who? (The player, that is)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 19, 2022, 07:38:02 AM
Plays for a Scottish ream.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 19, 2022, 07:45:44 AM
I hadnít watched that embarrassing video of Ďfansí mocked up by Qatar all the way through until this morning and then I noticed something maybe youíve seen and noted already or maybe not. No women in it, none.
Singing "Eng-land" with only two syllables was a big giveaway too.

The French 'fans' were singing 'Viva Champions', which is bad enough but they were using stressed and unstressed syllables, which is not how French works. Or they were singing in English, which is not what the French do (we only have about two songs which have one or three words in total chosen from : 'allez', 'les' et 'bleus').
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: JD on November 19, 2022, 08:44:25 AM
Given it's Budweiser, they've probably done everyone a favour.

Bud Light is the best beer going.

....which may be the most controversial thing I've ever posted on this site  ;D

I hope Budweiser sue FIFA for every penny they can

God mate you have no taste for beer, but I agree I do hope they sue FIFA for every penny they will lose and so they should.
I would rather drink water than Budweiser, the coke of beers.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 19, 2022, 10:37:31 AM
Infantino on why we shouldn't criticise the Qatar World Cup.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1593903373061083137
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Ger Regan on November 19, 2022, 10:46:27 AM
Somehow he's managing to become worse than blatter
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on November 19, 2022, 10:56:47 AM
Needs to keep his mouth shut and stop digging!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 19, 2022, 11:07:52 AM
Somehow he's managing to become worse than blatter

Or Rous (apartheid in football is fine) or Havelange (millions in bribes). Maybe itís time to just abolish FIFA.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 19, 2022, 11:23:53 AM
Are we expecting to see (m)any Qatari women at the games? I heard it stated the reason for the stadium alcohol ban was that its sale would make local people feel uncomfortable in its proximity. Could we get two games in and find the presence of women has a similar effect?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 19, 2022, 12:11:42 PM
For balance

I would imagine that the Qataris are pissed off that everyone and anyone is having a go at them across every subject they can think off.
I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves. The biggest protest was to not go - i do not have much sympathy for any piss head who has gone and now cannot get hammered.
I am sure there will be stories of normal, sober folk that have gone and will have a brilliant time, albeit a very expensive one.
No one was forced to go!
Hookey thanks for trying to balance this but NO... tell me which bit of culture we should respect and we are not doing so?
 I will tell you that no one is disrespecting the core cultures of that land however Qataris are the biggest fucking hypocrites on this earth. I can't understand this open world look at us puritanical attitude to alcohol drinking at stadiums as I will bet you my house and everything I own that there are daily deliveries being made to royal households of finest French wines and best Scotch etc etc even as we speak. And  when I say royal almost every indigenous Qatari is royal by association to the ruling family. There is also no doubt the family has bent over backward to appease Iran, their best friend, in banning alcohol at stadiums. Understand their medieval approach to diversity but their own religion absolutely forbids them from treating other human beings as unequal, however they go many steps further by  treating them disgustingly  and accept no responsibility for it. That's more than culture that is just gratuitous supremacist subjugation acted upon very desperate and poor people. WE CAN NOT CONDEMN THEM ENOUGH.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 19, 2022, 12:19:53 PM
Listen here Olaftab! There is a need to shout.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 19, 2022, 12:29:02 PM
Needs to keep his mouth shut and stop digging!

But he's a gold digger.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 19, 2022, 01:01:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/outofcontextfootball2/videos/533878168275954/
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SaddVillan on November 19, 2022, 05:20:24 PM
Needs to keep his mouth shut and stop digging!

But he's a gold digger.

Defending his paymaster?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 19, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
No, pointing out his own monetary motives.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 19, 2022, 06:34:48 PM
I see the Qatar loving twat Beckham has at last made an appearance, albeit a very brief one.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SaddVillan on November 19, 2022, 06:44:27 PM
Always expected this WC to be a crock of shite, bit this is looking like it's turning in to a huge steaming turd.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 19, 2022, 06:47:35 PM
I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves.

Says who?

Beat me to it. It's like respecting freedom of speech, it only works up to a point. So no, I don't remotely respect imprisoning gay people or treating migrant workers like slaves and working the until they drop dead.

On the alcohol point, of course it's their country to implement alcohol rules as they see fit, but they applied for the World Cup on the basis that alcohol would be for sale in the stadiums.

I agree, although more widely if it's a World Cup then i don't see why holding it in Qatar is any more controversial than holding COP27 in Egypt or indeed why hosting should only be limited to places of which we approve (obviously it would be good if the FA voted for somewhere we tend to approve of).

That Qatar "won" the right to host it in corrupt fashion is problematic and that it's at this time of year is problematic for big footballing nations (but suits me - I'm not wasting nice weather by staying at home to watch it). Similarly if crowds are sparse because no one wants to go there that's problematic (although not for me - I had no problem with watching the behind closed doors games on telly during covid). It was clearly a poor choice. However, that they don't respect gay rights or have European level employment protections shouldn't mean they can't be hosts any more than having the death penalty and massive prison populations should have barred the US or Russia and people were largely happy with how their tournaments panned out.

I can see why we might not want owners linked to regimes we find distasteful influencing our football at home (hello Newcastle), but this is world football and most of the countries in the world make Britain look very civilised judged by our own standards, so expecting it to dance to the agenda of domestic pressure groups seems a weird minor form of colonialism to me.

Qatar is somewhere I'd have no interest in visiting (partly because of some of the concerns raised, partly because it's in a bloody desert and seems a cultural desert too), but I'm not bothered about the World Cup being there.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 19, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
James Maddison injury:
Clearly someone either didn't tell the truth or Gareth Southgate knowingly made a bad decision. The right thing to do now is replace him with another player but I am not sure who?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: steamer on November 19, 2022, 08:15:17 PM
I always thought the world cup was about the celebration of the Beautiful game.
Local fans got involved as football was a part of their passion
England
Mexico
Spain
Germany
France
Argentina
Italy
USA ???
Russia
South Africa
All nations that play football, to play it in the desert in the middle of the European season has the square root of fuck all about spreading the game around.
How many Locals will now start playing
If they want a football experience they will buy a club
All about money and greed
to listen to that sanctimonious FIFA twat lecturing about "Racist westerners" wanted me to resort to his stereotype and knock his lights out
The criticism has nothing to do with being disrespectful of their religious and cultural rights but rather that this world cup should have been held  in a country where football is one of the religions




Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 19, 2022, 08:27:17 PM
James Maddison injury:
Clearly someone either didn't tell the truth or Gareth Southgate knowingly made a bad decision. The right thing to do now is replace him with another player but I am not sure who?

Did a quick search on Twitter to get the latest and this was the first result. H&V leading me astray again. https://twitter.com/Dude_the_Praise/status/1594059780712169473
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: trinityoap on November 19, 2022, 09:02:39 PM
I assume that in 1936 anyone going to the Berlin Olympics was told to respect Germany's political and cultural views.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 19, 2022, 09:13:42 PM
I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves.

Says who?

Beat me to it. It's like respecting freedom of speech, it only works up to a point. So no, I don't remotely respect imprisoning gay people or treating migrant workers like slaves and working the until they drop dead.

On the alcohol point, of course it's their country to implement alcohol rules as they see fit, but they applied for the World Cup on the basis that alcohol would be for sale in the stadiums.

I agree, although more widely if it's a World Cup then i don't see why holding it in Qatar is any more controversial than holding COP27 in Egypt or indeed why hosting should only be limited to places of which we approve (obviously it would be good if the FA voted for somewhere we tend to approve of).

That Qatar "won" the right to host it in corrupt fashion is problematic and that it's at this time of year is problematic for big footballing nations (but suits me - I'm not wasting nice weather by staying at home to watch it). Similarly if crowds are sparse because no one wants to go there that's problematic (although not for me - I had no problem with watching the behind closed doors games on telly during covid). It was clearly a poor choice. However, that they don't respect gay rights or have European level employment protections shouldn't mean they can't be hosts any more than having the death penalty and massive prison populations should have barred the US or Russia and people were largely happy with how their tournaments panned out.

I can see why we might not want owners linked to regimes we find distasteful influencing our football at home (hello Newcastle), but this is world football and most of the countries in the world make Britain look very civilised judged by our own standards, so expecting it to dance to the agenda of domestic pressure groups seems a weird minor form of colonialism to me.

Qatar is somewhere I'd have no interest in visiting (partly because of some of the concerns raised, partly because it's in a bloody desert and seems a cultural desert too), but I'm not bothered about the World Cup being there.

 ::) Iím sure the women who live in Qatar and have to ask their male superiors permission to do everyday things and the people thrown in prison for being gay really appreciate your bigger concern that they won their bid through corruption.

The reason they wanted the World Cup is to show off their country. Using it to show what piles of shit run the place is everyone elseís right.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 19, 2022, 09:17:29 PM
"Don't respect gay rights" and "don't have European level employment protection".

I award you the 2022 Putting It Mildly Cup.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 19, 2022, 11:04:16 PM
Benzema out of the WC
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 20, 2022, 12:13:12 AM
I thought we were to respect other cultures and protocols even if they feel abhorrent to ourselves.

Says who?

Beat me to it. It's like respecting freedom of speech, it only works up to a point. So no, I don't remotely respect imprisoning gay people or treating migrant workers like slaves and working the until they drop dead.

On the alcohol point, of course it's their country to implement alcohol rules as they see fit, but they applied for the World Cup on the basis that alcohol would be for sale in the stadiums.

I agree, although more widely if it's a World Cup then i don't see why holding it in Qatar is any more controversial than holding COP27 in Egypt or indeed why hosting should only be limited to places of which we approve (obviously it would be good if the FA voted for somewhere we tend to approve of).

That Qatar "won" the right to host it in corrupt fashion is problematic and that it's at this time of year is problematic for big footballing nations (but suits me - I'm not wasting nice weather by staying at home to watch it). Similarly if crowds are sparse because no one wants to go there that's problematic (although not for me - I had no problem with watching the behind closed doors games on telly during covid). It was clearly a poor choice. However, that they don't respect gay rights or have European level employment protections shouldn't mean they can't be hosts any more than having the death penalty and massive prison populations should have barred the US or Russia and people were largely happy with how their tournaments panned out.

I can see why we might not want owners linked to regimes we find distasteful influencing our football at home (hello Newcastle), but this is world football and most of the countries in the world make Britain look very civilised judged by our own standards, so expecting it to dance to the agenda of domestic pressure groups seems a weird minor form of colonialism to me.

Qatar is somewhere I'd have no interest in visiting (partly because of some of the concerns raised, partly because it's in a bloody desert and seems a cultural desert too), but I'm not bothered about the World Cup being there.

 ::) Iím sure the women who live in Qatar and have to ask their male superiors permission to do everyday things and the people thrown in prison for being gay really appreciate your bigger concern that they won their bid through corruption.

The reason they wanted the World Cup is to show off their country. Using it to show what piles of shit run the place is everyone elseís right.

It's not my bigger concern. It's that it is much more relevant to the decision. The other isn't at all unless we assume only those who match up to our recently discovered moral standards should be allowed to bid in which case it would rarely leave Europe.

And of course everyone should have the right to point out whatever they like. I'm just a little surprised by the extent to which people seem to be making a bigger fuss this time. Maybe it flows from the recent media concentration on culture war debates and the notion that covering such things with grave concern for minorities is necessary for media outlets to demonstrate moral credibility.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 20, 2022, 12:18:37 AM
"Don't respect gay rights" and "don't have European level employment protection".

I award you the 2022 Putting It Mildly Cup.
Do I win a pint of mild?

My point is there's a spectrum and they aren't any nearer an extreme on that than we are. Of course on these matters (which have little to do with football) their positions seem extreme from our perspective. But it works the other way around too. Maybe they think we shouldn't hold the World Cup because our culture is morally depraved, but we'd give them short shrift if they told us that.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 20, 2022, 12:42:45 AM
I hope Ecuador thrash Qatar.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 20, 2022, 01:27:11 AM
I hope Ecuador thrash Qatar.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on November 20, 2022, 02:41:36 AM
Don't remember ever being this uninterested in the World Cup before.

I'd like to think it's because of Qatar's horrible stance on homosexuality and the deaths of workers building the stadiums and also the fact that they were only awarded the competition because they paid off Fifa members.

But in reality it's probably because it's mid-season that's the main reason for my insouciance.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 20, 2022, 04:09:10 AM
Don't remember ever being this uninterested in the World Cup before.

I'd like to think it's because of Qatar's horrible stance on homosexuality and the deaths of workers building the stadiums and also the fact that they were only awarded the competition because they paid off Fifa members.

But in reality it's probably because it's mid-season that's the main reason for my insouciance.

Respect for saying 'uninterested' rather than 'disinterested'.

I've decided that I'm going to watch some of it; mainly to see how the pisshead hooligans respond to being denied of booze.

There has been much talk along the lines of 'alcohol just isn't obtainable', 'see what happens to anyone who tries to smuggle in alcohol' and 'do you really think this regime will go easy?'

Ultimately, yes. If the England/German/Dutch thugs turn up, they will find alcohol from somewhere - or if they can't, they'll destroy the place. Or they'll be beaten to a pulp by the sharia fanatics.

Either way, it's entertainment.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 20, 2022, 04:45:59 AM
It's not my bigger concern. It's that it is much more relevant to the decision. The other isn't at all unless we assume only those who match up to our recently discovered moral standards should be allowed to bid in which case it would rarely leave Europe.

And of course everyone should have the right to point out whatever they like. I'm just a little surprised by the extent to which people seem to be making a bigger fuss this time. Maybe it flows from the recent media concentration on culture war debates and the notion that covering such things with grave concern for minorities is necessary for media outlets to demonstrate moral credibility.

So youíre saying that people should only be held to moral standards that have existed for more than a set number of years? So because homosexuality wasnít legalised here until the sixties, we should tolerate the imprisonment of gay people everywhere?

As for the media, I do agree that quite often they are desperate to prove themselves to be enlightened, but I donít see why innocent people being abused should be ignored because of it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 20, 2022, 08:27:18 AM
Qatar to win the World Cup. With every goal they score being a penalty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2022, 08:48:09 AM
"Don't respect gay rights" and "don't have European level employment protection".

I award you the 2022 Putting It Mildly Cup.
Do I win a pint of mild?

My point is there's a spectrum and they aren't any nearer an extreme on that than we are. Of course on these matters (which have little to do with football) their positions seem extreme from our perspective. But it works the other way around too. Maybe they think we shouldn't hold the World Cup because our culture is morally depraved, but we'd give them short shrift if they told us that.

Right-minded people tend to believe that treating people well is generally a good thing. So, working migrant labourers so hard in 40+ degrees temperatures that they drop dead is one end of a spectrum, sure, I'm just not sure that our opposite position could be described as "extreme". I mean, I would think that paedophiles probably are of the opinion that what they do is normal, but it doesn't mean that it's a valid point of view, or that not being one is just as extreme as them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Chris Harte on November 20, 2022, 09:47:38 AM
Just read somewhere that a Mexican fan has been sentanced to thirty lashes in a public place.

His crime? To have a bottle of beer in his possession on arrival.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 20, 2022, 09:59:16 AM
Just read somewhere that a Mexican fan has been sentanced to thirty lashes in a public place.

His crime? To have a bottle of beer in his possession on arrival.

Yeah, but that only appears extreme to you.

You having a bottle of beer in your fridge to drink during tomorrowís England game and NOT getting 30 lashes in public is just as extreme to them.

So essentially theyíre the same. Is that right?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 20, 2022, 10:06:35 AM
Just read somewhere that a Mexican fan has been sentanced to thirty lashes in a public place.

His crime? To have a bottle of beer in his possession on arrival.

Yeah, but that only appears extreme to you.

You having a bottle of beer in your fridge to drink during tomorrowís England game and NOT getting 30 lashes in public is just as extreme to them.

So essentially theyíre the same. Is that right?

Yes, correct.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 20, 2022, 11:30:01 AM
"Don't respect gay rights" and "don't have European level employment protection".

I award you the 2022 Putting It Mildly Cup.
Do I win a pint of mild?

My point is there's a spectrum and they aren't any nearer an extreme on that than we are. Of course on these matters (which have little to do with football) their positions seem extreme from our perspective. But it works the other way around too. Maybe they think we shouldn't hold the World Cup because our culture is morally depraved, but we'd give them short shrift if they told us that.

Their position on LGBTI individuals and the rights of migrant workers donít seem extreme, they are extreme. We can talk all day about the different perceptions of whats acceptable to different cultures and Western hypocrisy (which there is plenty of). But a state philosophy that homosexuality is a mental illness and it being perfectly acceptable to pay workers poverty wages and work then till they die, isnít in my view open to the nuances of cultural differences, its just totally wrong on every level.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 20, 2022, 12:48:29 PM
https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594302742847426562?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
Just read somewhere that a Mexican fan has been sentanced to thirty lashes in a public place.

His crime? To have a bottle of beer in his possession on arrival.
Well, he wanted to go on the lash in Qatar.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 20, 2022, 01:12:19 PM
I can't see anything about a Mexico fan, but my search did reveal that the Qatar authorities eventually dropped the charges levelled against Paola Schietekat, a behavioral economist that was raped and abused while working for the organising committee and had the foolish notion that she should report it, opening herself up to charges that could lead to 7 years in prison and 100 lashes. But then they probably think we're weird cos we don't do that to women that have been raped, so hypocrisy or summat.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 01:13:32 PM
The fan villages look like something closer to the Fyre festival than a World Cup

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/63691286
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 20, 2022, 01:21:55 PM
I can't see anything about a Mexico fan, but my search did reveal that the Qatar authorities eventually dropped the charges levelled against Paola Schietekat, a behavioral economist that was raped and abused while working for the organising committee and had the foolish notion that she should report it, opening herself up to charges that could lead to 7 years in prison and 100 lashes. But then they probably think we're weird cos we don't do that to women that have been raped, so hypocrisy or summat.

Itís just their culture apparently. We didnít even start charging for plastic carrier bags until recently, so who are we to say imprisoning rape victims is wrong!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 01:32:28 PM
WTF?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 20, 2022, 01:34:44 PM
https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594302742847426562?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Respect to Joe Lycett, did what he said he would and shredded £10k. Some woud argue he could have given to a good cause, but it's his money and has probably drawn more attention to the issue than if he had simply spent it on adverts.
Funnily enough he has broken no UK laws destroying the cash, however if he had held back a few notes and defaced them writing say "Beckham is a money grubbing unprincipled c**t in the pay of Qatar" he could have been prosecuted.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 01:50:27 PM
I can't see anything about a Mexico fan, but my search did reveal that the Qatar authorities eventually dropped the charges levelled against Paola Schietekat, a behavioral economist that was raped and abused while working for the organising committee and had the foolish notion that she should report it, opening herself up to charges that could lead to 7 years in prison and 100 lashes. But then they probably think we're weird cos we don't do that to women that have been raped, so hypocrisy or summat.

Itís just their culture apparently. We didnít even start charging for plastic carrier bags until recently, so who are we to say imprisoning rape victims is wrong!

I think I better confess now, I never pay for my bags at M&S. Iím lucky to have hands!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 20, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
The fan villages look like something closer to the Fyre festival than a World Cup

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/63691286

The whole fan experience looks awful and bland. While not high on my bucket list Iíd go to Qatar as a tourist and purely out of curiosity at how they built the place. Some of it is spectacular. But to watch football? Not a chance. Iíll wait until the next one. Which is out here if course!!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 02:41:08 PM
I can't see anything about a Mexico fan, but my search did reveal that the Qatar authorities eventually dropped the charges levelled against Paola Schietekat, a behavioral economist that was raped and abused while working for the organising committee and had the foolish notion that she should report it, opening herself up to charges that could lead to 7 years in prison and 100 lashes. But then they probably think we're weird cos we don't do that to women that have been raped, so hypocrisy or summat.

Itís just their culture apparently. We didnít even start charging for plastic carrier bags until recently, so who are we to say imprisoning rape victims is wrong!

I think I better confess now, I never pay for my bags at M&S. Iím lucky to have hands!
off with your head
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Nev on November 20, 2022, 02:59:37 PM
One of my traditions is to watch the opening titles on the Beeb for the beginning of a major tournament. They were on the mark last Summer, particularly with the music.
It becomes a touchstone of the whole competition.

Don't bother with ITV's though, it'll be shit like everything they do.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 20, 2022, 03:09:08 PM
One of my traditions is to watch the opening titles on the Beeb for the beginning of a major tournament. They were on the mark last Summer, particularly with the music.
It becomes a touchstone of the whole competition.

Don't bother with ITV's though, it'll be shit like everything they do.
Just seen it:.cheap and nasty!
I was expecting some authentic Middle Eastern music and Islamic art graphics. I suppose they would have been accused of cultural appropriation or some rubbish on Twitter.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 20, 2022, 03:23:58 PM
One of my traditions is to watch the opening titles on the Beeb for the beginning of a major tournament. They were on the mark last Summer, particularly with the music.
It becomes a touchstone of the whole competition.

Don't bother with ITV's though, it'll be shit like everything they do.
Just seen it:.cheap and nasty!
I was expecting some authentic Middle Eastern music and Islamic art graphics. I suppose they would have been accused of cultural appropriation or some rubbish on Twitter.

You mean like showing the culture of another country or area of the world? No such wokery in the BBC of today. They have their Gammon license payers sensitivities to protect.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 03:24:59 PM
this is a sham - Lineker et al can fuck off
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 20, 2022, 03:36:56 PM
Knowing FIFA and their instructions to referees to favour the home nation, looks like Equador may be looking at some iffy decisions in this match. My only surprise will be if the visitors even get a point.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: German James on November 20, 2022, 03:38:53 PM
I was expecting some authentic Middle Eastern music and Islamic art graphics.
ITV had some animation of Muhammad scoring a penalty set to "Rock to Casbah", but they pulled it just in time.
A pox on all theocracies and their deviant systems of law and punishment. ******.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 03:40:56 PM
Morgan Freeman at the opening ceremony? Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Knowing FIFA and their instructions to referees to favour the home nation, looks like Equador may be looking at some iffy decisions in this match. My only surprise will be if the visitors even get a point.
Dodgy Red Card for Ecuador incoming
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Nev on November 20, 2022, 03:46:16 PM
One of my traditions is to watch the opening titles on the Beeb for the beginning of a major tournament. They were on the mark last Summer, particularly with the music.
It becomes a touchstone of the whole competition.

Don't bother with ITV's though, it'll be shit like everything they do.
Just seen it:.cheap and nasty!
I was expecting some authentic Middle Eastern music and Islamic art graphics. I suppose they would have been accused of cultural appropriation or some rubbish on Twitter.

It was shit and I'm being kind.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2022, 03:48:29 PM
Shame on you Morgan Freeman having anything to do with that.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 03:49:30 PM
Marcel Desailly has also had his palm crossed with silver.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 03:51:11 PM
Alex Scott talking shit earlier - she's usually quite impressive.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 20, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
Has there been an opening ceremony? Did any UK broadcaster show it?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 03:53:21 PM
that bald prick from FIFA is spouting some shite on the mic now.

Lineker: "let's have a listen"

No, thanks, Gary.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 03:53:27 PM
Has there been an opening ceremony? Did any UK broadcaster show it?

Adverts for the pre-match beheading. They havenít said whether they will be showing the full time stoning.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
I'd love Eduador to win this. :)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2022, 04:03:49 PM
Canít stand this BBC commentator, talks like sheís got a mouthful of marbles.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 04:05:18 PM
LOL.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
I hope Ecuador rattle in half a dozen
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:05:45 PM
Fucking Keeper :D LOLLLL
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:06:51 PM
Canít stand this BBC commentator, talks like sheís got a mouthful of marbles.
Steve Bower and Dion Dublin on BBC 1
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:06:54 PM
Hahaha, Olsen plays for Qatar.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 04:07:13 PM
Booooo.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:07:22 PM
VAR already. FFS.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 04:07:23 PM
Pick that out of a pint glass!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 04:07:48 PM
What the fuck?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:07:49 PM
couldn't see an offside there
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 20, 2022, 04:07:58 PM
There's a surprise! :D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:08:02 PM
WTF?!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 20, 2022, 04:08:26 PM
The whole lot's fucking bent.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Mellin on November 20, 2022, 04:08:31 PM
*Turns off*
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 20, 2022, 04:08:55 PM
Is anybody really surprised?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lsvilla on November 20, 2022, 04:08:58 PM
Hahaha that's hilarious.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 04:09:12 PM
Unbelievable Jeff! Money talks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 20, 2022, 04:09:17 PM
Here we go, is there really any point?
The whole thing is rigged.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 20, 2022, 04:09:46 PM
Shit like that makes me want to just not fucking bother.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:09:49 PM
Someone's been paid off. Fucking joke.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 20, 2022, 04:10:37 PM
*Turns off*
Same here, they have just chucked any credibility they might have had out of the window.
I wonder who they have decided is going to win it?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 20, 2022, 04:10:43 PM
Have they actually given the made up excuse yet as to why it was ruled out?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2022, 04:10:50 PM
VAR - checking bribe amount.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:11:22 PM
Offside

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiBQEpTX0AARqgq?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 20, 2022, 04:11:40 PM
This could be fun. I wonder how many goals they can disallow because Qatar are Blues.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 20, 2022, 04:11:54 PM
couldn't see an offside there

The only place I could see it is if the the Ecuador player was deemed ahead of the keeper in the first part (when the keeper came out to try and collect it) and thus there was only one player between him and the goal. Otherwise I'm at a loss.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on November 20, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
What the hell has gone on there?  Commentators clearly said they had heard offside mentioned in the conversation between the ref and VAR official, but it was not even close.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 20, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
VAR - checking bribe amount.
Yes the VAR officials had to make sure there were cleared funds in their accounts before giving the decision.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 20, 2022, 04:12:48 PM
Nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 20, 2022, 04:13:07 PM
So what's that all about?  No explanation from any officials.  No explanation from anyone commentating.  No action replays, from multiple angles or otherwise.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 20, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Fuck all wrong with that
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 20, 2022, 04:14:12 PM
Ten of the Qatar team don't come from Qatar, I wonder what made them turn their allegiance to Qatar?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:15:22 PM
Ecuador get a corner, i'm somewhat surprised they didn't find a way to give it as a penalty to Qatar.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 04:15:27 PM
Are the refs using the magic spray, or just drawing lines in the sand?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: RichardBatchelor on November 20, 2022, 04:15:59 PM
Push on the keeper?

Dodgy as feck.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 20, 2022, 04:17:19 PM
That keeper😃
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:17:23 PM
this keeper will get 50 lashings in public after this performance
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 20, 2022, 04:18:49 PM
Ecuador get justice now. 1-0.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 04:18:50 PM
Surely that pen award needs to be checked properly?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:19:02 PM
I honestly thought Olsen was Swedish, not Qatari.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 04:19:35 PM
On the basis of what we've seen so far they must have spent a fortune on bribes to win the Asian Cup. They're absolutely woeful.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:24:54 PM
Qatar are so shit I reckon even Scotland could get a draw against them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 04:26:45 PM
calm down.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 20, 2022, 04:27:06 PM
Granted that last attempt would have been offside but the keeper clattered the attacker for a pen
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: The Man With A Stick on November 20, 2022, 04:28:46 PM
I'll look forward to watching these get humiliated over the next ten days.  Walsall would fucking batter them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 04:33:39 PM
Two-nil, this could be ten. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 20, 2022, 04:35:51 PM
Lovely header
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:36:08 PM
This is like watching a non league side playing Man City in the FA Cup 3rd round.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:36:57 PM
That shot from the Qatari just hit my bedroom window
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
I hope Doug is getting recognition for green sand.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 20, 2022, 04:37:37 PM
this keeper will get 50 lashings in public after this performance

Too easy, give him two weeks living in the Fans' Village.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: DB on November 20, 2022, 04:38:54 PM
Qatar, blimey, they are bad.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 04:40:13 PM
I switched off after the first goal but have decided to revel in the humiliation of Qatar. Got to be a red or two in it too.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 04:42:11 PM
If the Dutch don't implode as they often do at tournaments, they could rattle in double figures against this lot.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 20, 2022, 04:45:40 PM
Ooh, ooh, ooh, quick, fancy a game of Spot The Woman?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 20, 2022, 04:54:38 PM
Ooh, ooh, ooh, quick, fancy a game of Spot The Woman?

They made a big point of showing her just before kick off.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 20, 2022, 05:00:11 PM
Itís probably a man dressed up to look like a woman!!
I doubt Qatar are even Midland Alliance standard.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 20, 2022, 05:01:16 PM
Qatastrophic first half
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 20, 2022, 05:02:21 PM
Ecuador really cannot score enough.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 20, 2022, 05:03:43 PM
Ooh, ooh, ooh, quick, fancy a game of Spot The Woman?

They made a big point of showing her just before kick off.

I spotted an Ecuadorian lass in the crowd when they scored.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 20, 2022, 05:08:44 PM
Still don't see that offside at all. Which player's knee was it on the image that's being presented, and at what point in the play was it taken?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 05:12:24 PM
Also, I thought they were having "semi-automatic offside" at this tournament so the decision should be made pretty much instantly?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 20, 2022, 05:16:32 PM
That keeper😃

Games are always better when at least one of the keepers makes Gabor Kiraly look like Lev Yashin 😁
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on November 20, 2022, 05:18:33 PM
Still don't see that offside at all. Which player's knee was it on the image that's being presented, and at what point in the play was it taken?

The only explanation can be that they player went beyond the goalkeeper when the ball was flicked on.  There was only one Qatar player behind the keeper at that point, so that can be the only explanation really.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 20, 2022, 05:21:34 PM
Whatever the explanation, it's another case of VAR not being used to do what it is supposed to do - put right clear errors.

It's what it has become - frantically search for a reason to disallow every goal.

They're two different things entirely, and it brings us the worst of both worlds.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 20, 2022, 05:23:12 PM
Still don't see that offside at all. Which player's knee was it on the image that's being presented, and at what point in the play was it taken?

The only explanation can be that they player went beyond the goalkeeper when the ball was flicked on.  There was only one Qatar player behind the keeper at that point, so that can be the only explanation really.

How can using computer avatars to prove offside be correct ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 20, 2022, 05:31:40 PM
Although that Ecuador goal celebration should trigger VAR too.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 20, 2022, 05:32:07 PM
Who are the suits in the dugout at the halfway line? And why are they there?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 05:34:19 PM
Still don't see that offside at all. Which player's knee was it on the image that's being presented, and at what point in the play was it taken?

The only explanation can be that they player went beyond the goalkeeper when the ball was flicked on.  There was only one Qatar player behind the keeper at that point, so that can be the only explanation really.
And only 4 phases later the goal was scored.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 05:34:22 PM
Bored now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 05:36:54 PM
It's kicking off in the ground https://twitter.com/StoolFootball/status/1594376358934847489
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 05:38:11 PM
It's kicking off in the ground https://twitter.com/StoolFootball/status/1594376358934847489

What are the Newcastle fans doing there?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 05:41:11 PM
It's only a bus ride to Saudi from there.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 05:57:12 PM
It's only a bus ride to Saudi from there.

Theyíll be punching the police camels tonight.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 05:59:26 PM
No host nation has lost the opening game of the World Cup

Qatar: Hold my water
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 20, 2022, 05:59:50 PM
Blimey, that second half was dire
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 06:01:06 PM
Ecaudor should have rattled a few more in, I hope they go out on goal difference. Useless twats.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 20, 2022, 06:01:48 PM
Ecuador managed to do enough there to look serious and not enough to smash Qatar into next week. Fixed.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 20, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
It's kicking off in the ground https://twitter.com/StoolFootball/status/1594376358934847489

Not sure Arabs do banter.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 06:04:18 PM
At least after 'beating the traffic,' the Qatar fans will be able to get a few in before last orders. Oh!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 20, 2022, 06:09:43 PM
Still don't see that offside at all. Which player's knee was it on the image that's being presented, and at what point in the play was it taken?

The only explanation can be that they player went beyond the goalkeeper when the ball was flicked on.  There was only one Qatar player behind the keeper at that point, so that can be the only explanation really.
And only 4 phases later the goal was scored.

I didn't say I agreed, I was just looking for a possible reason why it might have been disallowed. It's not like Ireland are going to win it if the correct decisions are made by VAR.

As an aside, I was wondering if it's worth having 2 threads for this World Cup i.e. one for the games themselves and a second for the 'other issues'.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Richard E on November 20, 2022, 06:10:24 PM
The team in red were that bad I thought for one moment that Scotland must have qualified for the World Cup after all.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: steamer on November 20, 2022, 06:14:14 PM
you mean they didn't ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 20, 2022, 06:19:36 PM
Well that was pretty shit all round. Never mind, we have Ingerland to set the tournament on fire tomorrow!!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 20, 2022, 06:23:24 PM
The team in red were that bad I thought for one moment that Scotland must have qualified for the World Cup after all.

Iíll let you ask them what they have under their skirts, Richard.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 06:42:25 PM
Well that was pretty shit all round. Never mind, we have Ingerland to set the tournament on fire tomorrow!!
All our firms have turned up in Doha!
(https://i.ibb.co/pJ1K5tg/1-JS283606774.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJ1K5tg)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 20, 2022, 06:43:28 PM
I would be mildly amused if Qatar lost all of their group games and promptly gave everyone 24 hours to get out of their country.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 20, 2022, 06:45:54 PM

As an aside, I was wondering if it's worth having 2 threads for this World Cup i.e. one for the games themselves and a second for the 'other issues'.

I don't think it should be split. Every kick of this tournament is linked with those 'other issues'.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 06:48:20 PM
that was fucking dreadful. It's going to be a repeat of the 2010 snore fest
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 20, 2022, 06:49:37 PM
Issues aside that was a truly woeful game of football.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 06:51:58 PM
The match was Awful v Truly awful so it delivered on very low expectation.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 20, 2022, 07:00:53 PM
First morale victory against the hosts, well done Ecuador and I hope Useless Del a Cruz is smiling somewhere.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 07:01:44 PM
Still don't see that offside at all. Which player's knee was it on the image that's being presented, and at what point in the play was it taken?

The only explanation can be that they player went beyond the goalkeeper when the ball was flicked on.  There was only one Qatar player behind the keeper at that point, so that can be the only explanation really.
And only 4 phases later the goal was scored.

I didn't say I agreed, I was just looking for a possible reason why it might have been disallowed. It's not like Ireland are going to win it if the correct decisions are made by VAR.

As an aside, I was wondering if it's worth having 2 threads for this World Cup i.e. one for the games themselves and a second for the 'other issues'.
I tried that by starting this thread just for football but it has been merged with  the other two threads that covered Qatar and Villa players by deviously evil satanic Mods.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 07:08:53 PM
I vote for one thread football and evil-regime bashing. Speaking of which: the Ecuadorian fans were singing "We want beer" at HT.

https://twitter.com/javierlanza/status/1594370891726848000
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: stubbsyandy on November 20, 2022, 07:12:19 PM
First morale victory against the hosts, well done Ecuador and I hope Useless Del a Cruz is smiling somewhere.

I really loved Useless
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 20, 2022, 07:13:53 PM
Maybe stop calling him Useless, then. It's as funny as the plague.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: stubbsyandy on November 20, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
Meant with affection
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 20, 2022, 07:17:43 PM
Autocorrect is a bastard at times for lazy spellers.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 07:19:18 PM
First morale victory against the hosts, well done Ecuador and I hope Useless Del a Cruz is smiling somewhere.

I really loved Useless
he was pretty crap :D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 20, 2022, 07:21:46 PM
Great goal v Charlton and if you believe stories, he donated a decent wedge to Ecuadorean charities.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 20, 2022, 07:23:44 PM
As an aside, I was wondering if it's worth having 2 threads for this World Cup i.e. one for the games themselves and a second for the 'other issues'.

I tried that by starting this thread just for football but it has been merged with  the other two threads that covered Qatar and Villa players by deviously evil satanic Mods.

Ah I see now, understood. Just thought it might stop the match comments being split between here and 'Other Games'.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2022, 07:25:17 PM
Ulises wasn't crap, he was decent, nothing more nothing less. Also a decent human being. Approx 10% of his wages used to go to his charity which set up stuff back in his home area of Ecuador.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 20, 2022, 07:27:37 PM
Ulises wasn't crap, he was decent, nothing more nothing less. Also a decent human being. Approx 10% of his wages used to go to his charity which set up stuff back in his home area of Ecuador.

That sums it up for me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 20, 2022, 07:28:18 PM
Sticky this
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2022, 07:36:50 PM
UDLC was a big-hearted lad who put every last ounce of effort in. Unfortunately his first touch made Watkins look like Maradona.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 20, 2022, 07:54:06 PM
And he defeated that cyclops.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 20, 2022, 07:56:11 PM
Mazy run for a late Crouch winner IIRC also a Boro under OíDeary.

Soft spot for him. 

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on November 20, 2022, 07:59:19 PM
And he defeated that cyclops.

Also best cartoon theme tune ever.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 20, 2022, 07:59:55 PM
Ulises wasn't crap, he was decent, nothing more nothing less. Also a decent human being. Approx 10% of his wages used to go to his charity which set up stuff back in his home area of Ecuador.

Just looked at his Wiki page. He's an elected member of the National Assembly for the centre left PAIS social democrats. I wonder how he used to get along with Alpay in the dressing room who himself is in the Turkish Assembly.  Ulises working  to try and improve the lot of the less well off,  Alpay is more interested in physical brawls in parliament with his political opponents.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 20, 2022, 08:06:37 PM
And he defeated that cyclops.

Also best cartoon theme tune ever.

It was definitely up there!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 20, 2022, 08:12:15 PM
Engerland umming and aahing about wearing the one love armband or not.

"Sorry gays and oppressed people!  We might get a yellow card so you'll have to make do with some light tutting under the breath."
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2022, 08:12:49 PM
And he defeated that cyclops.

Also best cartoon theme tune ever.

It was definitely up there!

I liked that one that went, "All for one and one for all." Can't remember what it was called though.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 20, 2022, 08:39:56 PM
Sticky this

Why, are you worried that the other threads will be so heavy with traffic that it'll drop off the first page?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 20, 2022, 08:40:48 PM
And he defeated that cyclops.

Also best cartoon theme tune ever.

It was definitely up there!

I liked that one that went, "All for one and one for all." Can't remember what it was called though.

Muskahounds are always ready!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 20, 2022, 08:48:40 PM
Maybe stop calling him Useless, then. It's as funny as the plague.

Used to do my head in games. "Come on Useless" followed by the desperate look around for approving laughs.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BoVillan esq on November 20, 2022, 08:50:53 PM
Well that got of to a good start, crap game, snore fest, fans streaming out the stadium at half time in the opening game of a World Cup, empty seats, we're up and running then.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 20, 2022, 08:54:38 PM
Dion Dublin remarked that the middle section behind the goal hadn't stopped signing and bouncing throughout the game. Looks like half them didn't return for the 2nd half.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2022, 08:54:57 PM
Maybe stop calling him Useless, then. It's as funny as the plague.

Used to do my head in games. "Come on Useless" followed by the desperate look around for approving laughs.
Poor Ulises, I hope he didn't hear it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 20, 2022, 08:55:40 PM
Just seeing the Qatar fans deflated was worth the watch.  I canít wait to see the Netherlands put 5 past them.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Alex77 on November 20, 2022, 10:17:28 PM
Dion Dublin remarked that the middle section behind the goal hadn't stopped signing and bouncing throughout the game. Looks like half them didn't return for the 2nd half.

I thought that was so contrived and wouldn't be surprised if they weren't actually fans.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hillbilly on November 20, 2022, 11:20:13 PM
This is the first time in my life where I've only paid a passing glance at the result of a World Cup opening match and not bothered to watch it or the highlights.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 20, 2022, 11:23:41 PM
Fair play to ITV highlights tonight.
Big piece after on this shitshow with Ian Wright and Co pitch side saying it right.
Didnít expect such frank criticism pitch side from ITV.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 20, 2022, 11:34:22 PM
This is going to be a truly weird WC.
As such I wouldnít be surprised if England do really well. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 12:27:28 AM
That offside was surely wrong. The bloke depicted in the diagram with his foot beyond a defender seems to be the first one to head it at the time he headed it and wasn't close to an offside position when the free kick was taken. Then the second to head it was behind the ball, the keeper and two other defenders when the first one headed it, ran past the ball and turned back before heading it.

Maybe because the first guy to head it was the furthest forward the system incorrectly picked him out to assess whether he was in an offside position rather than the second bloke?

(freeze the video at 5 secs and again at 7 secs)

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 21, 2022, 12:29:12 AM
Be great to see Wales progress.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 12:35:50 AM
That offside was surely wrong. The bloke depicted in the diagram with his foot beyond a defender seems to be the first one to head it at the time he headed it and wasn't close to an offside position when the free kick was taken. Then the second to head it was behind the ball, the keeper and two other defenders when the first one headed it, ran past the ball and turned back before heading it.

Maybe because the first guy to head it was the furthest forward the system incorrectly picked him out to assess whether he was in an offside position rather than the second bloke?

Online explanations have a freeze frame which looks markedly different to when I pause the video there (my take is their freeze is too late and has allowed the second bloke to just pass the first bloke, one defender (the one in the graphic), the ball and the keeper). Good job Ecuador won anyway.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 12:36:04 AM
Be great to see Wales progress.

Disagree.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 12:38:32 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 21, 2022, 01:11:52 AM
Be great to see Wales progress.

Concurred.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 21, 2022, 04:36:24 AM
I had a couple of Ecuadorians for drinks this evening. They're quietly confident. And they didn't drink that much, which I consider to be a win.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 21, 2022, 05:17:53 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 21, 2022, 06:54:41 AM
When England get knocked out I will always root for the next British team left in, after they get knocked out it becomes which Villa player is left in, which usually then means I watch my poor sweepstake pick.

Not a massive international football follower per-see, now quite looking forward to todays games.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 21, 2022, 07:20:21 AM
Letís see if my gaffer will allow us to have the game on.

Otherwise itíll be a long boozy lunch.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 08:07:55 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?

Apparently, the US having the death penalty and Britain being the home of Alf Garnett and Rigsby means we should accept countries in the 21st century treating women as second class citizens, working migrants to death, and locking people up for being gay. Any empathy we feel for fellow human beings is irrelevant as it's really only the media whipping it up to prove they're politically correct or something.

I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 08:16:31 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?

Apparently, the US having the death penalty and Britain being the home of Alf Garnett and Rigsby means we should accept countries in the 21st century treating women as second class citizens, working migrants to death, and locking people up for being gay. Any empathy we feel for fellow human beings is irrelevant as it's really only the media whipping it up to prove they're politically correct or something.

I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?

They started speaking in Welsh when my mom went into the post office in Rhyl in 1981.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 21, 2022, 08:25:30 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?

Apparently, the US having the death penalty and Britain being the home of Alf Garnett and Rigsby means we should accept countries in the 21st century treating women as second class citizens, working migrants to death, and locking people up for being gay. Any empathy we feel for fellow human beings is irrelevant as it's really only the media whipping it up to prove they're politically correct or something.

I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?
All those people coming out of the coal mines doing black face.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 21, 2022, 08:40:19 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?

Apparently, the US having the death penalty and Britain being the home of Alf Garnett and Rigsby means we should accept countries in the 21st century treating women as second class citizens, working migrants to death, and locking people up for being gay. Any empathy we feel for fellow human beings is irrelevant as it's really only the media whipping it up to prove they're politically correct or something.

I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?
All those people coming out of the coal mines doing black face.

Well the British (and other European) teams could start by protesting against the 25k+ migrants that have died trying to enter Europe since 2014. Or maybe against the economic policies that have pushed 4m British kids into poverty. Or hey, oppose the export of weapons to Saudi Arabia that have contributed to the 300k deaths in the Yemeni war. Such actions would be really brave and actually have an impact. More and more this is looking like a civilisational mission from the old enlightened world rather than any act of real solidarity or bravery such as the actions of Tommie Smith and John Carlos displayed in 1968. The England captain might wear a rainbow armband, but his kit was made in a Thai factory and produced by workers on 1 pound an hour.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 21, 2022, 10:00:00 AM
FIFA being FIFA again and banning the rainbow armbands for the captains.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Walmley_Villa on November 21, 2022, 10:11:29 AM
FIFA being FIFA again and banning the rainbow armbands for the captains.

Absolute joke - I honestly hope the event is remembered for all the wrong reason, just watch England go and win it. FIFA should be shut down
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 21, 2022, 10:11:56 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?

Apparently, the US having the death penalty and Britain being the home of Alf Garnett and Rigsby means we should accept countries in the 21st century treating women as second class citizens, working migrants to death, and locking people up for being gay. Any empathy we feel for fellow human beings is irrelevant as it's really only the media whipping it up to prove they're politically correct or something.

I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?

Anything from Max Boyce.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 21, 2022, 10:17:00 AM
FIFA being FIFA again and banning the rainbow armbands for the captains.

Absolute joke - I honestly hope the event is remembered for all the wrong reason, just watch England go and win it. FIFA should be shut down

Infantino has "come out" as a gay, Muslim, Qatari migrant, from a red-haired, freckled past so he knows prejudice and othering when he says it and sees it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 10:18:42 AM
FIFA being FIFA again and banning the rainbow armbands for the captains.

Although I think England should have taken the yellow card(s) associated with it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 21, 2022, 10:21:31 AM
Maybe Southgate will wear it instead. If he gets a yellow card itís no big deal but itíd be firm ďfuck youĒ to FIFA and Qatar.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 21, 2022, 10:24:25 AM
This is going to be a truly weird WC.
As such I wouldnít be surprised if England do really well.
Woaah! Steady on there!

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 10:24:41 AM
I feel more determined than ever to not watch a single minute of this abomination
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 10:27:10 AM
Well the British (and other European) teams could start by protesting against the 25k+ migrants that have died trying to enter Europe since 2014. Or maybe against the economic policies that have pushed 4m British kids into poverty. Or hey, oppose the export of weapons to Saudi Arabia that have contributed to the 300k deaths in the Yemeni war. Such actions would be really brave and actually have an impact. More and more this is looking like a civilisational mission from the old enlightened world rather than any act of real solidarity or bravery such as the actions of Tommie Smith and John Carlos displayed in 1968. The England captain might wear a rainbow armband, but his kit was made in a Thai factory and produced by workers on 1 pound an hour.

I really don't get all this attitude that nobody should say anything about anything because they haven't been perfect themselves. How else do we improve as a people? You have every right to protest about people dying trying to achieve a better life for them and their families and people in poverty being exploited by the rich. Nobody should negate what you are saying or your right to say it by referencing something else that your country or culture or religion has done.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 21, 2022, 10:31:11 AM
Well the British (and other European) teams could start by protesting against the 25k+ migrants that have died trying to enter Europe since 2014. Or maybe against the economic policies that have pushed 4m British kids into poverty. Or hey, oppose the export of weapons to Saudi Arabia that have contributed to the 300k deaths in the Yemeni war. Such actions would be really brave and actually have an impact. More and more this is looking like a civilisational mission from the old enlightened world rather than any act of real solidarity or bravery such as the actions of Tommie Smith and John Carlos displayed in 1968. The England captain might wear a rainbow armband, but his kit was made in a Thai factory and produced by workers on 1 pound an hour.

I really don't get all this attitude that nobody should say anything about anything because they haven't been perfect themselves. How else do we improve as a people? You have every right to protest about people dying trying to achieve a better life for them and their families and people in poverty being exploited by the rich. Nobody should negate what you are saying or your right to say it by referencing something else that your country or culture or religion has done.

Indeed, if Infantino's line was valid (and warning: Godwin's Law incoming) then at Nuremberg the Nazi leadership would have got off with the defence "Well, you British invented concentration camps so you have ZERO right to criticise"
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 10:32:30 AM
Well the British (and other European) teams could start by protesting against the 25k+ migrants that have died trying to enter Europe since 2014. Or maybe against the economic policies that have pushed 4m British kids into poverty. Or hey, oppose the export of weapons to Saudi Arabia that have contributed to the 300k deaths in the Yemeni war. Such actions would be really brave and actually have an impact. More and more this is looking like a civilisational mission from the old enlightened world rather than any act of real solidarity or bravery such as the actions of Tommie Smith and John Carlos displayed in 1968. The England captain might wear a rainbow armband, but his kit was made in a Thai factory and produced by workers on 1 pound an hour.

I really don't get all this attitude that nobody should say anything about anything because they haven't been perfect themselves. How else do we improve as a people? You have every right to protest about people dying trying to achieve a better life for them and their families and people in poverty being exploited by the rich. Nobody should negate what you are saying or your right to say it by referencing something else that your country or culture or religion has done.

It's used to undermine the concept of socialism by capitalism at every given opportunity and it's become so drummed into people it's reflexive.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 10:37:18 AM
FIFA being FIFA again and banning the rainbow armbands for the captains.

And England have confirmed they'll continue taking a knee before kick-off, so we can look forward to all of those arguments again as well.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 21, 2022, 10:37:57 AM
Smith and Carlos were doing it for a section of society they're part of. The armband is a small symbol of solidarity with a section of society which are still victimised by legislation around the world.

It's never all or nothing. None of us can change the world. But what you can do is work to try to change your little bit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 21, 2022, 10:59:08 AM
Well the British (and other European) teams could start by protesting against the 25k+ migrants that have died trying to enter Europe since 2014. Or maybe against the economic policies that have pushed 4m British kids into poverty. Or hey, oppose the export of weapons to Saudi Arabia that have contributed to the 300k deaths in the Yemeni war. Such actions would be really brave and actually have an impact. More and more this is looking like a civilisational mission from the old enlightened world rather than any act of real solidarity or bravery such as the actions of Tommie Smith and John Carlos displayed in 1968. The England captain might wear a rainbow armband, but his kit was made in a Thai factory and produced by workers on 1 pound an hour.

I really don't get all this attitude that nobody should say anything about anything because they haven't been perfect themselves. How else do we improve as a people? You have every right to protest about people dying trying to achieve a better life for them and their families and people in poverty being exploited by the rich. Nobody should negate what you are saying or your right to say it by referencing something else that your country or culture or religion has done.

I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be protests. But much of this is signalling by presenters and footballers whilst still being paid well to take part in the circus. There was no serious campaign against England/Wales attending the world cup and we have football clubs owned for example by Saudi's who execute gay people, whilst we also sell them billions of dollars of weapons which they drop on Yemen children. Countries also develop differently. It was only a few decades ago that homosexuality was banned in the UK. I remember those of us attending Section 28 demonstrations and supporting Gay rights in the 80s, being labelled loony left, when the vast majority of people remained openly homophobic, including those on the left. On this issue, we've made huge strides forward, but not all countries have. So should there be no world cup in most African countries or even Eastern European countries? Would you favour Poland holding the world cup where women's and LGBT rights are repressed? If we're not careful it becomes a way of excluding often poorer countries under the guise of moral rights and taking a moral high ground we have not right to assume.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 11:11:36 AM
Well the British (and other European) teams could start by protesting against the 25k+ migrants that have died trying to enter Europe since 2014. Or maybe against the economic policies that have pushed 4m British kids into poverty. Or hey, oppose the export of weapons to Saudi Arabia that have contributed to the 300k deaths in the Yemeni war. Such actions would be really brave and actually have an impact. More and more this is looking like a civilisational mission from the old enlightened world rather than any act of real solidarity or bravery such as the actions of Tommie Smith and John Carlos displayed in 1968. The England captain might wear a rainbow armband, but his kit was made in a Thai factory and produced by workers on 1 pound an hour.

I really don't get all this attitude that nobody should say anything about anything because they haven't been perfect themselves. How else do we improve as a people? You have every right to protest about people dying trying to achieve a better life for them and their families and people in poverty being exploited by the rich. Nobody should negate what you are saying or your right to say it by referencing something else that your country or culture or religion has done.

I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be protests. But much of this is signalling by presenters and footballers whilst still being paid well to take part in the circus. There was no serious campaign against England/Wales attending the world cup and we have football clubs owned for example by Saudi's who execute gay people, whilst we also sell them billions of dollars of weapons which they drop on Yemen children. Countries also develop differently. It was only a few decades ago that homosexuality was banned in the UK. I remember those of us attending Section 28 demonstrations and supporting Gay rights in the 80s, being labelled loony left, when the vast majority of people remained openly homophobic, including those on the left. On this issue, we've made huge strides forward, but not all countries have. So should there be no world cup in most African countries or even Eastern European countries? Would you favour Poland holding the world cup where women's and LGBT rights are repressed? If we're not careful it becomes a way of excluding often poorer countries under the guise of moral rights and taking a moral high ground we have not right to assume.

Whilst I agree there is much hypocrisy and plenty to look at within our own 'western' cultures, I'm also wary of those arguments being used by those who want to shut down criticism.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 11:13:01 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?
Well deduced. Everyone would assume it was a monster fix anyway.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 11:13:35 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?
Well deduced. Everyone would assume it was a monster fix anyway.

It would be fitting for this shitshow
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 21, 2022, 11:17:24 AM
Qatar is an absolute shithole, and seems absolutely rammed with ******.

Can't bear it.

Saying that, come on Iran!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 11:23:00 AM
I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be protests. But much of this is signalling by presenters and footballers whilst still being paid well to take part in the circus. There was no serious campaign against England/Wales attending the world cup and we have football clubs owned for example by Saudi's who execute gay people, whilst we also sell them billions of dollars of weapons which they drop on Yemen children. Countries also develop differently. It was only a few decades ago that homosexuality was banned in the UK. I remember those of us attending Section 28 demonstrations and supporting Gay rights in the 80s, being labelled loony left, when the vast majority of people remained openly homophobic, including those on the left. On this issue, we've made huge strides forward, but not all countries have. So should there be no world cup in most African countries or even Eastern European countries? Would you favour Poland holding the world cup where women's and LGBT rights are repressed? If we're not careful it becomes a way of excluding often poorer countries under the guise of moral rights and taking a moral high ground we have not right to assume.

Okay, I appreciate that. The way I see it is that the people in power in these countries want to hold these events to bolster their own images and show off to the world. Using that as leverage to apply pressure for positive change is perfectly valid. It's an opportunity to get a message to them that we have to take.

The same extends to Britain. We're trying to get Euro 28 here, if people protest we shouldn't have that because we sell arms to Saudi Arabia then I couldn't argue against them. And if it started a conversation that led to change in arms exports then going without a football tournament would be more than worth it.

If FIFA turned round and made that point it would be one of the most respectable things they've done in a very long time. They won't though unfortunately, because it would be the thin end of the wedge and they rely on the revenue from the World Cup to fill their coffers.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 11:23:55 AM
I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?
I am still waiting for an apology for Bonnie Tyler from our neighbours. Just supplying me with water is not enough.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 11:29:32 AM
Same here. If I had to rank the teams in order of which I'd be happiest to see win it they would be 32nd.
So you'd rather see the scuzz bucket hosts win?

Apparently, the US having the death penalty and Britain being the home of Alf Garnett and Rigsby means we should accept countries in the 21st century treating women as second class citizens, working migrants to death, and locking people up for being gay. Any empathy we feel for fellow human beings is irrelevant as it's really only the media whipping it up to prove they're politically correct or something.

I can only imagine what atrocities Wales have committed. The Ballad of Tom Jones perhaps?

I thought you had maybe grasped it's not about atrocities for me. Iran would be high on my list.

I tend to want the home team to get knocked out as quickly as possible, but there are 16 slots for that. Brazil and Portugal would definitely be below them.

I suppose I've been overexposed to Welsh pride coupled with Welsh complaints when the English go down the same path. I can readily understand why most of Scotland would put England bottom.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: hilts_coolerking on November 21, 2022, 11:34:16 AM
As Voltaire sort of said "Perfect is the enemy of good".  Qatar and FIFA need heavy criticism.  That's all there is to it.  One doesn't have to be whiter than white to make those criticisms. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 11:37:22 AM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 11:44:02 AM
Infantino is the ****** in Chief in taking the position that nothing needs to be corrected because world history is shit. What fucking idea does he has about the plight of immigrant workers sitting on his fat £1.5M a year salary and associated privileges? I bet his suite at The Ritz Carlton is about 5 grand a night all paid for by football fans around the world.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 21, 2022, 11:50:50 AM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.

Similar here. The surnames on my dad's side are all a piece of piss, but my maternal grandma is a Jones from the valleys as well.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 21, 2022, 12:04:23 PM
So England really stood up to FIFA on the armband issue.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 12:06:34 PM
OMFG! Greasy doesn't start.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 12:07:19 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 12:07:43 PM
If you want to know all about FIFA watch the documentary FIFA Uncovered on Netflix. Itís an excellent expose on just how corrupt they all are and have been. Infantino is perfect to lead them post Blatter. And while the armband or kneeling is a visible statement (will remain to see if they do either), the time to have protested was when the WC was awarded to Qatar and to Russia in 2018. But they all took the money, turned a blind eye and moved on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 12:09:51 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/LrNj5sb/Screenshot-20221121-130802.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vhXyYMg)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 12:10:49 PM
I'm boycotting the WC and all like. It's just that I'm off sick* today.

*For real.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 12:10:58 PM
England XI: Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Trippier, Rice, Bellingham, Mount, Shaw, Saka, Kane, Sterling

Iran XI: Beiranvand, Moharrami, Hajsafi, Mohammadi, Jahanbakhsh, Pouraliganji, Taremi, Cheshmi, Karimi,Hosseini, Nourollahi
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 21, 2022, 12:11:18 PM
Phew. Mason's in.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 12:11:43 PM
Are Iran any good?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 21, 2022, 12:12:16 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.

You sum up my feelings exactly.  Kane should have worn it, copped his yellow, then passed it to Sterling, then Rice and so on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 21, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Harry Maguire, fucking hell. Even against Iran. Fucking hell. There you go again.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 12:13:02 PM
I'm hoping to see hair celebrations from the Iran players and pulling pint and kissing each other celebrations from England, if they score.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 12:13:14 PM
Phew. Mason's in.

I donít understand why so many are against him. While heís not been at his best this season heís a superb player and seemingly quite a decent person too. And it wasnít his fault Southgate kept picking him and not Grealish initially. Iím always confused as to why so many dislike him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 12:13:32 PM
Are Iran any good?

Certainly not terrible. Taremi's scored bags of goals at the upper end of the Portuguese League. One of those "England should win, but if they don't then it's not a moment of national shame" ones.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 21, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
And why it was never anything more than crass virtue signalling.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 21, 2022, 12:16:48 PM
Phew. Mason's in.

I donít understand why so many are against him. While heís not been at his best this season heís a superb player and seemingly quite a decent person too. And it wasnít his fault Southgate kept picking him and not Grealish initially. Iím always confused as to why so many dislike him.

It was more a comment against Mouthgate. His unimaginative,  predictable selections that often fly in the face of the bullshit he comes out with reference his selection policies.  Good luck to the lad.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 12:19:21 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
And why it was never anything more than crass virtue signalling.


Doing something to point out to people/countries/organisations that their attitude/laws are wrong is not 'crass'
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 12:19:26 PM
Ha, looked at the 'your team to play Iran' on the BBC website thinking it was the actual team and was surprisingly good. No Maguire, no Sterling surprised me. Alas Southgate's favourites start in reality. If you can't be bold against Iran, you can't be bold at all.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 12:19:51 PM
Phew. Mason's in.

I donít understand why so many are against him. While heís not been at his best this season heís a superb player and seemingly quite a decent person too. And it wasnít his fault Southgate kept picking him and not Grealish initially. Iím always confused as to why so many dislike him.

He probably is and all that, but it feels like he's the embodiment of the trope of the England national team giving an excessive number of caps to a fairly functionary player at the expense of other more technically gifted players because of where he comes from and who he plays for.

He's 23 and has 32 caps, which is more than Grealish and Maddison put together, and I aside from a decent finish in the last match against Germany I can't think of anything else of any significance he's done in an England shirt.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 21, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
And why it was never anything more than crass virtue signalling.


Doing something to point out to people/countries/organisations that their attitude/laws are wrong is not 'crass'
I agree, but they are not doing that. They have folded and let all those people down that they were supposed to be supporting.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 12:22:36 PM
Nah, Mount is a quality player and well worth his place.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 12:23:46 PM
Nah, Mount is a quality player and well worth his place.

You're only saying that so they keep picking him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: London Villan on November 21, 2022, 12:24:45 PM
Mount is a decent number 10 - if we play that system. Today could be a 4231 or even 433... for Southgate that is positive!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 12:25:24 PM
Has Southgate ever used Greasy as he should be used? I'd be happy for you all if Horseface gave him twenty minutes, said "Free role, wreak havoc Joe!", and he set the tournament on fire, going on to be Man of the Qatar PR Fest and bringing it 'home'.

Not going to happen though, is it?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 12:25:33 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
And why it was never anything more than crass virtue signalling.


Doing something to point out to people/countries/organisations that their attitude/laws are wrong is not 'crass'

Backing down limply suggests the motivation was not principled and may have been crass PR positioning for the consumption of people at home though.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 21, 2022, 12:30:31 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
And why it was never anything more than crass virtue signalling.


Doing something to point out to people/countries/organisations that their attitude/laws are wrong is not 'crass'

Backing down limply suggests the motivation was not principled and may have been crass PR positioning for the consumption of people at home though.
I struggle to find a stronger representation of Virtue Signalling, ie signalling that you are behind a virtuous cause, only to run away from that cause at the slightest resistance.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 12:33:18 PM
Phew. Mason's in.

I donít understand why so many are against him. While heís not been at his best this season heís a superb player and seemingly quite a decent person too. And it wasnít his fault Southgate kept picking him and not Grealish initially. Iím always confused as to why so many dislike him.

He probably is and all that, but it feels like he's the embodiment of the trope of the England national team giving an excessive number of caps to a fairly functionary player at the expense of other more technically gifted players because of where he comes from and who he plays for.

He's 23 and has 32 caps, which is more than Grealish and Maddison put together, and I aside from a decent finish in the last match against Germany I can't think of anything else of any significance he's done in an England shirt.

Arenít there other England player selections that are worthy of consistent criticism for that than him? Just seems a convenient roll out every time heís picked. Iíd happily reserve that for Eric Dier being in the squad, or the constant selection of a player like Maguire or Stones who canít get games consistently for their clubs. Mount just seems to a lazy target every time heís picked.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 12:35:33 PM
Nah, Mount is a quality player and well worth his place.

You're only saying that so they keep picking him.

I'd rather they picked Grealish so I can cheer every time the Gulf Gang kick him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 12:38:53 PM
Beans on toast for lunch in honour of England's Brave Harry Maguire.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 12:39:02 PM
Would have been great if England, Wales and others have said "we are wearing the armband, if you book one of our players for doing so we will leave the pitch". FIFA would have backed down in seconds. Disappointingly, England seem more interested in fighting FIFA for the rights of dead people than living ones. They refused to back down over poppies but have quietly acquiesced this time. Poor show all round.
And why it was never anything more than crass virtue signalling.


Doing something to point out to people/countries/organisations that their attitude/laws are wrong is not 'crass'

Backing down limply suggests the motivation was not principled and may have been crass PR positioning for the consumption of people at home though.

Maybe. But there are degrees of commitment that somebody can have to a cause. I'm fully behind it as a cause, but I'm probably not going to be manning any barricades or joining any military resistance movements in support of it, as other people might do and have done.

If they've decided "we're in favour of it, and even prepared to get booked over it, but we're not prepared to be thrown out of the tournament for it", that that doesn't make any support that they do try and give "crass PR positioning".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 21, 2022, 12:52:57 PM
Beans on toast for lunch in honour of England's Brave Harry Maguire.
Wonder what minute he'll make his first fuck up? ;)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LukeJames on November 21, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
The gap between the pitch and the stands is huge. Pitch in Qatar, stands in Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 01:01:02 PM
England, The FA, Southgate and Kane bottle it before a ball is kicked.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:01:57 PM
Iranian fans' reaction to their own national anthem was interesting.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 21, 2022, 01:02:00 PM
That was highly symbolic that the Iranian football team didn't sing the national anthem in solidarity with the protesters.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:02:37 PM
Lively start from the Mini Satan.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:02:47 PM
Oh ffs Fcukin Jenas to top it all off.  Just fcuk off bbc.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:03:15 PM
That was highly symbolic that the Iranian football team didn't sing the national anthem in solidarity with the protesters.

Fair play.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:03:54 PM
Oh ffs Fcukin Jenas to top it all off.  Just fcuk off bbc.

He, surely, can't be worse than our Dion was yesterday.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 01:04:51 PM
How was that not a pen? A foul anywhere else on the pitch.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:04:55 PM
Rugby tackles allowed at this World Cup it seems!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:05:46 PM
Oh ffs Fcukin Jenas to top it all off.  Just fcuk off bbc.
The 5Live commentary us on the red button.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Var official Rathsanjani does not rule its clear and obvious.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:06:38 PM
Empty seats Allah!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:07:12 PM
Oh ffs Fcukin Jenas to top it all off.  Just fcuk off bbc.

He, surely, can't be worse than our Dion was yesterday.

Itís close., Dion was indeed dreadful.  But he played for us so gets a pass.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 01:07:45 PM
Empty seats Allah!

It's nobody's round, allah
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:08:36 PM
Empty seats Allah!

It's nobody's round, allah

No hands, on your big day out.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:08:36 PM
On the líeau my lord on the líeau.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:08:42 PM
Maguire not quite fit enough to tap that in.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:08:47 PM
Problems with England fans getting in because of an issue with the FIFA ticketing app.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:09:13 PM
Are those Vuvuzelas I can hear?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 01:10:20 PM
Looks like another match thatís going to be a tough watch.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:11:08 PM
Are those Vuvuzelas I can hear?
I hope not.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 21, 2022, 01:12:57 PM
Babies and drums ffs
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
Are those Vuvuzelas I can hear?
I hope not.
They're banned at the Parc des Princes and they're Qataris so hopefully not.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:13:48 PM
Looks like that's the WC for the goalie.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:14:15 PM
Empty seats Allah!

It's nobody's round, allah

No hands, on your big day out.

Left side give us a waveÖ.oh.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 01:14:55 PM
Ridiculous decision to have the keeper continue.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 01:15:20 PM
BBC radio saying that the ticket app required to access the stadium crashed and that supporters were just waved through
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 01:15:24 PM
That well known cure for concussion is to change shirt and shorts.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 01:16:44 PM
What is football's problem with having off-field head injury assessments ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:17:03 PM
I miss Des opening with shouldnít you be at work?í
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 01:17:12 PM
And now heís coming off - it should not be the player making these decisions.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 01:17:40 PM
Looks like the new shirt and shorts trick didnít work.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:18:41 PM
They've got Olsen's pen-pal coming on by the look of despair on their manager's face.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:18:54 PM
Cue Nigel Spink 1982 performance.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 21, 2022, 01:19:12 PM
Is that a coracle they're using as a stretcher?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 01:19:30 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. We could all see that their keeper wasnít fit to carry on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 01:20:52 PM
Disgrace that he was allowed to carry on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 01:23:15 PM
Ref has got that 'let's fuck England' look in his eye
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 01:24:39 PM
Youríed pay a lot of money to watch Qatar v Iran, letís be honest!!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LukeJames on November 21, 2022, 01:25:06 PM
This is like watching a Gerrard team 😴
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:25:50 PM
Ref has got that 'let's fuck England' look in his eye
Well, they could put paid to that idea by scoring a couple, in a novel approach that I would call 'playing decent football.'
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:26:35 PM
This is very scrappy.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 01:27:12 PM
If they've decided "we're in favour of it, and even prepared to get booked over it, but we're not prepared to be thrown out of the tournament for it", that that doesn't make any support that they do try and give "crass PR positioning".
they weren't prepared to get booked over it though. and given they could eaasily have started one of our injured players with the armband, had him booked and subbed him it would hardly have been worthy of an even...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:27:32 PM
Their 'Tannoy' sounds like Stechford Baths during a swimming gala.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 01:27:37 PM
Ref has got that 'let's fuck England' look in his eye
Well, they could put paid to that idea by scoring a couple, in a novel approach that I would call 'playing decent football.'

Oh absolutely, and honestly if he is of that mind I wouldn't blame him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:30:03 PM
Just lipread Mason Mount saying "ha ha fuck you, LeeB" as he calmly smashed it into the side netting.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 01:30:13 PM
Nice move, shame about the finish.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:30:24 PM
England's best move so far.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 21, 2022, 01:30:46 PM
Was the defender also subbed off? Just asking as it was a clash of heads and both would have been hit just as hard.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:30:57 PM
Mount shite.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 01:31:30 PM
Just lipread Mason Mount saying "ha ha fuck you, LeeB" as he calmly smashed it into the side netting.

Another 30 caps under his belt and he'll score one of those
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 01:32:08 PM
Was the defender also subbed off? Just asking as it was a clash of heads and both would have been hit just as hard.

No and not surprised- the bloke who could barely stand was allowed back on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:32:17 PM
Ref has got that 'let's fuck England' look in his eye
That's Mr Claus you are doubting.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Beans on toast for lunch in honour of England's Brave Harry Maguire.

Appropriately enough, he's just hit the beans on toast.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:33:06 PM
Was the defender also subbed off? Just asking as it was a clash of heads and both would have been hit just as hard.

No and not surprised- the bloke who could barely stand was allowed back on.
Pleased FIFA are looking after these young men properly.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:33:06 PM
Slabhead wanker.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:33:44 PM
Is it England or Iran that are the drum wankers?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:33:57 PM
Maguire misses an open goal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 21, 2022, 01:34:08 PM
Iran.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:34:15 PM
McGuire shite. Need to bury those.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:34:20 PM
Is it England or Iran that are the drum wankers?

Iran I saw them walking in with them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:34:46 PM
It's the greatest moment in Birmimgham City's history.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 01:35:07 PM
Good head.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:35:23 PM
Embarrassing Tweet in 3... 2...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:35:25 PM
Theyíve now renamed the demolished stand Ďthe Bell Endí
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:35:41 PM
Goooool
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:35:51 PM
The Stourbridge boy strikes.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 21, 2022, 01:35:51 PM
He's 19 you know
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 01:36:01 PM
Considering how Iran are set up I don't think England are doing too badly.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:36:39 PM
Is it England or Iran that are the drum wankers?

Iran I saw them walking in with them.

Iran.

Thanks both. Glad they're losing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:36:42 PM
Heís a very good player mind.  Shame they donít have a sell on clause.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 21, 2022, 01:36:43 PM
It's the greatest moment in Birmimgham City's history.

Have we been liquidated?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 01:37:40 PM
Birmingham City have tweeted that they are changing their name to Jude Bellingham FC in honour of this greatest moment in their history.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 21, 2022, 01:37:56 PM
The piped/fake sound is fucking annoying. As are the drums. They kill rather than create atmosphere, why are they allowed /encouraged by the authorities?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 21, 2022, 01:38:24 PM
It's the greatest moment in Birmimgham City's history.
That was when Joe Mayo invented mayo
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
It's the greatest moment in Birmimgham City's history.

Have we been liquidated?

It's eclipsed the few days between administration talk and Wes and Nas turning up.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:39:45 PM
Their keeper floundered like me* when I won the raffle to go between the sticks for Villa Cup champions Grimshaw against Whitesmore after our keeper was injured.

*Five times to nil.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:41:34 PM
I was just thinking how Bellingham had been England's best player so far when he scored. He did have a completely unhindered run on to the cross for his header for the goal though - no Iranian player tracked his run at all.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:43:12 PM
Good goal
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 21, 2022, 01:43:27 PM
Now that was a good goal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:43:42 PM
Good finish that. Should be game over already.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 01:43:48 PM
Yep good hit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:44:28 PM
Good strike Saka
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 21, 2022, 01:45:09 PM
He's deserved it: he's been terrific during this game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:45:15 PM
Great finish but the marking was terrible again.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 21, 2022, 01:45:40 PM
Men against boys.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 01:45:42 PM
Bellingham is a cracking player but the way that lot live vicariously through him is very very strange.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 01:45:56 PM
Thatís a belting finish as well.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 01:46:25 PM
Good goal all round.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 21, 2022, 01:46:32 PM
That's what Slabhead offers that Tyrone doesn't, a threat in the opposition box.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 01:46:40 PM
Blimey...I thought that Iran were supposed to be a half decent team
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:46:55 PM
Superb stuff England
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 01:46:57 PM
Booom!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:47:24 PM
14 minutes of stoppage time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:47:28 PM
Even the Ambassador  stood up and clapped.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 01:47:35 PM
Iran defending like school kids.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 01:48:07 PM
Khomeini's house isn't the only thing collapsing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 21, 2022, 01:48:10 PM
That was a nice goal, great work from Bellingham and Kane before the finish from Sterling.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:49:00 PM
Iranians need to stop complaining. It's God's wish.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:50:45 PM
Bellingham has made Rice redundant in his position.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 01:50:57 PM
How Iran are ranked 20th, I'll never know, they've been dreadful.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 01:51:31 PM
Blimey...I thought that Iran were supposed to be a half decent team
I thought that as but then remembered Qatar are Asian champions so it may be a relative thing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 01:52:06 PM
Bbc schedulers now hurriedly meeting to discuss whether or not to cancel The Repair Shop after this.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 21, 2022, 01:52:28 PM
This is decent from England. Managing to keep me awake even though I haven't slept for over 24 hours.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 01:53:43 PM
Itís a pretty comprehensive performance. Iran came to get a point. England have dominated from the start and deserve this score. Not much to be critical about.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 01:54:03 PM
How Iran are ranked 20th, I'll never know, they've been dreadful.
By the same system that ranks Belgium at 1.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 01:56:18 PM
The one thing Iíve always noted about Bellingham is that rarely do you ever get any vitriol towards him from Villa fans. Nobody cares he played for that lot. Certainly none of the outright hate they had for Grealish while playing for us and/or England. In fact itís been quite the opposite. Heís an outstanding footballer. The ridicule is all about how they have embarrassed themselves in remembering him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 01:57:18 PM
That was awful defending. A better side would have made England pay.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 21, 2022, 01:57:37 PM
Bbc schedulers now hurriedly meeting to discuss whether or not to cancel The Repair Shop after this.
Oh No. Don’t know how much more of Richards I can stand. Interesting how Shearer disagrees with him. Mind you all of them are useless
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 21, 2022, 01:58:34 PM
Trippiers passing hasnít been great
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 21, 2022, 02:01:04 PM
This is decent from England. Managing to keep me awake even though I haven't slept for over 24 hours.

I had a decent sleep last night but nodded off for 15 minutes halfway through that half.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 21, 2022, 02:01:56 PM
Job done, should be 5.

Love us being ruthless with these clowns.

Make subs, rest some players.

Great Monday.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 02:02:48 PM
This is decent from England. Managing to keep me awake even though I haven't slept for over 24 hours.

I had a decent sleep last night but nodded off for 15 minutes halfway through that half.

Anything that requires concentrating for half an hour leads to that for me these days
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:06:13 PM
Love us being ruthless with these clowns
Why are the Iranian players clowns?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:07:29 PM
Trippiers passing hasnít been great
Blimey has he? I thought he  was quite alive throughout the first half.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 02:08:32 PM
God I Fcukin hate Richards.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: CT Villan on November 21, 2022, 02:08:39 PM
Started too defensively (surprise, surprise), but once we opened up and got players forward we became a different team. We should get more goals in the second half.

Trippier's first touch has been poor, didn't notice his passing being too bad.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
Love us being ruthless with these clowns
Why are the Iranian players clowns?

Juan Martinez alert.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TaxDodger on November 21, 2022, 02:10:48 PM
If you could keep scoring goals to make Iran's goal difference awful and thus give us (Wales) a better chance of coming second in the group that would be appreciated.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 02:17:09 PM
Love us being ruthless with these clowns
Why are the Iranian players clowns?

Juan Martinez alert.

Welcome to the site Big Fang!

(14 posts. New account.)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
If you could keep scoring goals to make Iran's goal difference awful and thus give us (Wales) a better chance of coming second in the group that would be appreciated.

Second place already looks between Wales and USA to me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 02:19:55 PM
no more injuries please. i have a hill to run up before the next match.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:20:34 PM
After Iranian players refusal to sing their national anthem I doubt it if their remaining games will be shown in Iran.
Anyone well done to all of them and I wish  them best when they return home.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 02:24:46 PM
Can't see Goulash getting a start.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 02:25:32 PM
I'd get Kane off, no point risking injury and let's see how we do in case he does miss a game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 02:25:55 PM
Hopefully, Senegal v Holland will be the first real game of the tournament rather than another match of attack v defence.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
There was no fucking need to mention Cubillas. 😡
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 02:29:25 PM
Can't see Goulash getting a start.

He'll be Hungary to get on
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 21, 2022, 02:29:49 PM
After Iranian players refusal to sing their national anthem I doubt it if their remaining games will be shown in Iran.
Anyone well done to all of them and I wish  them best when they return home.

Yes, absolutely fair play.

Have a lot of time for my Iranian students here, and their viewpoints. They've said a lot of things in conversation that they've made perfectly clear would be unacceptable back home.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 21, 2022, 02:31:35 PM
Love us being ruthless with these clowns
Why are the Iranian players clowns?

Aytollah Cairoli ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:31:49 PM
Saka is a proper player.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:31:57 PM
Jack has finally got himself in the frame.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 02:32:07 PM
There was no fucking need to mention Cubillas. 😡



Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 02:32:13 PM
Another great finish.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
There was no fucking need to mention Cubillas. 😡




I was explaining that free kick my ten year old nephew the other day.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:33:08 PM
Can someone tell Rudy Can't Fail that I'm not speaking to him, please?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 02:33:51 PM
Put the subs on now Southgate.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:35:01 PM
Iran are done hustling England, it seems.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:35:08 PM
Great finish but Maguire FFS.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 02:35:50 PM
Love us being ruthless with these clowns

Why are the Iranian players clowns?

BFV hates watching a toothless attack?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 02:36:29 PM
Wow, Iran 1 shot, 1 goalÖlethal stuff
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
no more injuries please. i have a hill to run up before the next match.
Maguire again  ::)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 21, 2022, 02:37:45 PM
Great finish but Maguire FFS.

He has an excuse, he looks a bit dozy at the moment.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 02:38:33 PM


RCF, thanks for sharing that! The first World Cup goal I remember watching and it's a belter.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 02:40:22 PM
Come on Jack
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:40:36 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:40:58 PM
Decent start for Rashford.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 21, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
Nice finish from Rashford.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 02:41:45 PM
Not a bad start for Rashford.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:41:51 PM
5-1. Too easy really
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 21, 2022, 02:42:26 PM
I suspect I'm in a minority but I've always liked Rashford.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
No back lift at all. on the touch Rashford scored with
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 02:42:40 PM
5-1. Too easy really

It's definitely coming home this time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
5 England goals and none for golden boot favourite Harry Kane. Youíd have got good money on that combination before the game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:43:35 PM
5-1. Too easy really

It's definitely coming home this time.

Nah..it wonít. Against a top team England will fall short.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 02:43:56 PM
I suspect I'm in a minority but I've always liked Rashford.

Me too
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 21, 2022, 02:44:22 PM
5-1. Too easy really

It's definitely coming home this time.

Nah..it wonít. Against a top team England will fall short.

Yep, too iffy at the back.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 02:44:23 PM
There was no fucking need to mention Cubillas. 😡




I was explaining that free kick my ten year old nephew the other day.

Uncle: "Just how crap was Alan Rough'"
Nephew: "I could have saved that. And just look at his hair!"
Uncle: "There's a Scottish Villa fan with hair just like that".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:44:53 PM
I suspect I'm in a minority but I've always liked Rashford.

Me too

Another player who gets a load of criticism for no reason. And seems a decent bloke off the pitch too.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:46:00 PM
Can't see Goulash getting a start.

He'll be Hungary to get on
I nearly spat out my tea. Brilliant!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 02:46:23 PM
No goals from our captain, useless Harry.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:46:55 PM
Seems like Iranian Grealish coming on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 02:48:04 PM
There was no fucking need to mention Cubillas. 😡




I was explaining that free kick my ten year old nephew the other day.

Uncle: "Just how crap was Alan Rough'"
Nephew: "I could have saved that. And just look at his hair!"
Uncle: "There's a Scottish Villa fan with hair just like that".
More about the outside of the foot shot but he did ask why the goalkeeper didn't line the wall up properly.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 02:48:29 PM
'Eric Dier made him hurry at the last'

Did he fuck.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 02:48:32 PM
5-1. Too easy really

It's definitely coming home this time.

Nah..it wonít. Against a top team England will fall short.

I know, just wanted to get the jinx in nice and early. ;)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 21, 2022, 02:48:37 PM
5 England goals and none for golden boot favourite Harry Kane. Youíd have got good money on that combination before the game.

I had money on Bellingham to score and for there to be more than 3 goals in the game with both sides scoring. Get in!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 21, 2022, 02:48:45 PM
nice to see Grealish on a bit of Villa representation 😊
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:49:15 PM
45338 in 68K capacity. Fair number for two small time teams.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:51:55 PM
Jenas: "Defensively we haven't been tested that much but when we did we conceded"
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 02:52:49 PM
It's only just come to my attention the name given to the mascot, and I'm not happy. Would Richard E or Hopadop care to represent my claims on a no win no fee basis?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 02:54:01 PM
After Iranian players refusal to sing their national anthem I doubt it if their remaining games will be shown in Iran.
Anyone well done to all of them and I wish  them best when they return home.

Yes, absolutely fair play.

Agree with all that. I follow an Iranian journalist on Twitter and some of the footage she posts from the protests is pretty grim.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:55:07 PM
That England kit really is shit. And Iíve still never understood why it has blue in it as a significant colour. Itís not in the flag.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 02:58:47 PM
I suspect I'm in a minority but I've always liked Rashford.

Me too

I think it's a rather particular type of person who tends to dislike him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 02:59:25 PM
Fucking BOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 02:59:47 PM
Bellingham MOTM by a mile.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 02:59:47 PM
Goal for Jack
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 03:00:21 PM
Well done Jack
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:01:22 PM
Well done Jack. I hope we name the new north stand the Grealish stand.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 03:01:29 PM
Booooo! Not even English.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:01:33 PM
What did I miss? How is there 10 added minutes this half?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 03:02:03 PM
Bellingham MOTM by a mile.
Absolutely
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 03:04:33 PM
Well done Jack. I hope we name the new north stand the Grealish stand.

Absolutely, then retire the stand in his honour.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:04:34 PM
I know he scored but itís sad to watch Jackís overall game. He rarely ever goes on those rampaging runs attacking players in the box. Itís all get the ball and lay it off.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:04:52 PM
Bellingham MOTM by a mile.
Absolutely

I'd give it the Iranian goalie that went off. Clean sheet for him, all downhill since.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:05:44 PM
Well done Jack. I hope we name the new north stand the Grealish stand.

Absolutely, then retire the stand in his honour.

In solidarity with our friends on the Coventry Road we could ensure that it's always empty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:08:36 PM
Nervous last minute or so for England. They're struggling to hold on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 03:10:29 PM
Dramatic final minute!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:10:43 PM
Even a side that's been as dominated as Iran have shown up our defensive weaknesses.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: BigFangVillan on November 21, 2022, 03:10:47 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:11:43 PM
Penalty Iran. Could be game on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:11:45 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID



Twat.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 03:12:06 PM
In before the ban.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 21, 2022, 03:12:13 PM
That didn't take you long. Fuck off.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:12:41 PM
How is that a penalty but the one on Maguire early in the game wasn't?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:12:43 PM
Anyone's game now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: spk on November 21, 2022, 03:13:09 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID


You are on the wrong site mate, try UKIP you total arse.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:13:17 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID



And thatís how you make everyone know youíre a wanker
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:13:23 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

You seem pleasant.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:13:55 PM
The referee blows up, luckily for England. They were hanging on at the end there.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:14:14 PM
How is that a penalty but the one on Maguire early in the game wasn't?

Ref likely knew Maguire is a clumsy buffoon so assumed he was just falling over

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 21, 2022, 03:14:21 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

Hope not. Wouldn't want you anywhere near my club at all.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 03:14:38 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID



Yeah, tell that to Paul McGrath.

You stood and said that in any pub with Villa fans in it and you'd have no teeth after.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:14:52 PM
The referee blows up

RIP
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 03:15:38 PM
The referee blows up

RIP

Ha!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 03:16:02 PM
One of your mates CDbearfan?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: spk on November 21, 2022, 03:17:40 PM
 John McGinn, Paul McGrath, Allan Evans, Steve Staunton etc etc, please ignore the idiot.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Delighted for Saka, after what happened to him at the Euros.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 03:19:31 PM
I wonder which one he was before? Kingstanding Villa?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:19:41 PM
One of your mates CDbearfan?

I do have this strange feeling we might have met before...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 21, 2022, 03:19:50 PM
Bellingham was superb ,  but that defence is not great and will come a Roy cropper against better teams
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
Eight goals yet I was still pretty bored watching that. Grealish at least tried to give the game a pulse.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:21:18 PM
I wonder if our 'new' bigot only thinks that people from the working class north of Birmingham are proper Villa fans.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 21, 2022, 03:21:38 PM
Bellingham pass completion rate 97% Rice 95%

Impressive.

Defence is scary though
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 21, 2022, 03:21:51 PM
Well I've been painting.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:22:28 PM
where did he go? Did he get all shy and run away after spewing his hate on here?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:23:19 PM
where did he go? Did he get all shy and run away after spewing his hate on here?

Hopefully someone banned him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 21, 2022, 03:23:36 PM
i feel a bit grumpy saying it is only Iran but when they did manage to attack i donít think we looked solid
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 03:23:44 PM
Love us being ruthless with these clowns
Why are the Iranian players clowns?

Juan Martinez alert.

Welcome to the site Big Fang!

(14 posts. New account.)
I called it. :-)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Towser on November 21, 2022, 03:23:54 PM
dedicated his World Cup goal to Finlay.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 21, 2022, 03:27:14 PM
Jake?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 21, 2022, 03:27:19 PM
Eight goals yet I was still pretty bored watching that. Grealish at least tried to give the game a pulse.

I know what you mean
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 03:27:29 PM
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 03:35:06 PM
Bellingham pass completion rate 97% Rice 95%

Impressive.

Defence is scary though

Yeah they looked sharp going forward, but that centre back pairing in particular looks ropey.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 03:38:08 PM
where did he go? Did he get all shy and run away after spewing his hate on here?

Hopefully someone banned him.

Yeah, he's gone.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:41:42 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 21, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Hard to dislike Jack when he takes the time to do things like that. He was a bit of an eejit but he was our eejit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 03:42:37 PM
where did he go? Did he get all shy and run away after spewing his hate on here?

Hopefully someone banned him.

Yeah, he's gone.

good cheers
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 21, 2022, 03:44:05 PM
It doesn't take long for these people to show their bile.  They don't have the brains or patience to play the long game, they just can't wait to let loose their race hate.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villan82 on November 21, 2022, 03:44:58 PM
Glad that the bigot was banned
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 03:51:54 PM
Absolutely guaranteed he'd be one of the hypocrites who abused England's Black players last year but will be drunkenly celebrating their goals today.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 04:01:31 PM
Netherlands vs Senegal next, then. Be nice to get a competitive game. Torn between support for the plucky underdog and disliking the homophobic twats in the Senegal team.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 04:09:28 PM
Netherlands vs Senegal next, then. Be nice to get a competitive game. Torn between support for the plucky underdog and disliking the homophobic twats in the Senegal team.

Yeah, but then you've also got the far right doing well in friendly old Netherlands and also the big 'why didn't the germans flatten Amsterdam? oh, because they betrayed their Jewish population and gave them what they wanted' issue from back in the day
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LukeJames on November 21, 2022, 04:10:16 PM
Stadium looks half full (or empty, depending on your mind set)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 04:10:18 PM
And that Christmas blackface thing they do, not good.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 04:13:48 PM
Black Pete? I was watching a film that was sort of about him the other day. Was alright. (The film not the racism).

I'd forgotten how much I hate the all in one colour kits they have at the World Cup.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 21, 2022, 04:14:49 PM
Bellingham pass completion rate 97% Rice 95%

Impressive.

Defence is scary though

Yeah they looked sharp going forward, but that centre back pairing in particular looks ropey.

The first goal certainly. Some England players are excellent at holding possession and playing keep ball, others, are not very good or less good at it.  They should strive to keep ball in the opposition's half because as soon as they drift backwards which they inevitably do it goes wrong.  The way to remedy this is to keep being assertive and let the ball players do what they do.



Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 21, 2022, 04:14:56 PM
Van Gaal looks like he's taken the flat side of a shovel in the face.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 21, 2022, 04:15:09 PM
Are Iran any good?

No.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 04:17:57 PM
Decent run by Queen of the South.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Small Rodent on November 21, 2022, 04:18:37 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

Moron
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 21, 2022, 04:18:38 PM
Stadium looks half full (or empty, depending on your mind set)

Isn't that because some are wearing white robes giving the appearance of empty seats m'lord?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 04:21:29 PM
I imagine a few fans will be in shortly, just finishing their pints.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 21, 2022, 04:22:18 PM
Ollie Watkins up front for the Dutch. Glorious chance goes begging due to terrible first touch and hesitancy
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 21, 2022, 04:22:20 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

Moron

A side from the trolling the grammar is shocking too.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Stu82 on November 21, 2022, 04:22:38 PM
I know he scored but itís sad to watch Jackís overall game. He rarely ever goes on those rampaging runs attacking players in the box. Itís all get the ball and lay it off.

Thatís what Southgate wanted, nice and safe. It needed a master manager like Pep to knock all that flair out,
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 04:23:23 PM
Just to liven things up, and so that you all have some impressive anecdotes to entertain your friends in the pub, the first of my World Cup FACTS:

The top exports of Senegal are Gold ($753M), Refined Petroleum ($475M), Non-fillet Frozen Fish ($311M), Phosphoric Acid ($273M), and Ground Nuts ($200M), exporting mostly to Mali ($825M), Switzerland ($494M), India ($336M), China ($272M), and Australia ($207M).

More World Cup FACTS to come.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 21, 2022, 04:23:50 PM
The one thing Iíve always noted about Bellingham is that rarely do you ever get any vitriol towards him from Villa fans. Nobody cares he played for that lot. Certainly none of the outright hate they had for Grealish while playing for us and/or England. In fact itís been quite the opposite. Heís an outstanding footballer. The ridicule is all about how they have embarrassed themselves in remembering him.

To be fair he didn't exactly hang around there for long enough to get really hated did he?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 04:29:37 PM
To be fair he didn't exactly hang around there for long enough to get really hated did he?
But..but didn't they retire his shirt after 999 appearances?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: London Villan on November 21, 2022, 04:30:16 PM
The one thing Iíve always noted about Bellingham is that rarely do you ever get any vitriol towards him from Villa fans. Nobody cares he played for that lot. Certainly none of the outright hate they had for Grealish while playing for us and/or England. In fact itís been quite the opposite. Heís an outstanding footballer. The ridicule is all about how they have embarrassed themselves in remembering him.

To be fair he didn't exactly hang around there for long enough to get really hated did he?

I'd love him in our midfield. Couldn't care less that he played for them. However, he'll end up at man city no doubt.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 04:30:37 PM
The Dutch could easily lose this game the way they are playing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 04:30:52 PM
Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

I was most offended by the errant apostrophe, a sad indictment of the British education system. :(

To be fair to BFV he's probably a bit upset that Sevco have already surrendered the league to Celtic and are now looking for a new manager to try and finish 2nd with. My thoughts are with him at this difficult time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 04:36:42 PM
Van Gaal looks like he's taken the flat side of a shovel in the face.

Not sure if his illness has impacted him with regards his features.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2022, 04:48:40 PM
Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID

I was most offended by the errant apostrophe, a sad indictment of the British education system. :(

To be fair to BFV he's probably a bit upset that Sevco have already surrendered the league to Celtic and are now looking for a new manager to try and finish 2nd with. My thoughts are with him at this difficult time.

Don't know why people get so worked up over a club that's only been around for 5 minutes.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: algy on November 21, 2022, 04:50:44 PM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.

Similar here. The surnames on my dad's side are all a piece of piss, but my maternal grandma is a Jones from the valleys as well.
It's cos traditionally Welsh folk didn't have surnames, you'd be like Owain ap Llewellyn ap Evan (Owain, son of Llewellyn, son of Evan) or whatever - they could get pretty long, but would basically give you the person's entire family history. Then Wales was subsumed in to England in the 16th century, and as part of that Welsh folk were effectively required to adopt anglicised surnames.  However, the problem at the time was also that you had to be really careful which surnames you picked, since being the 'wrong' religion was generally a bad idea (ruling out anything with pagan links, or links to catholicism) - so there was only a very small number of 'safe surnames available at JUST the same moment that a load of Welsh people were trying to find a hereditary surname to adopt.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 04:52:39 PM
Just to liven things up, and so that you all have some impressive anecdotes to entertain your friends in the pub, the first of my World Cup FACTS:

The top exports of Senegal are Gold ($753M), Refined Petroleum ($475M), Non-fillet Frozen Fish ($311M), Phosphoric Acid ($273M), and Ground Nuts ($200M), exporting mostly to Mali ($825M), Switzerland ($494M), India ($336M), China ($272M), and Australia ($207M).

More World Cup FACTS to come.

Is that consistent with gravity modelling?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 04:53:08 PM
Don't know why people get so worked up over a club that's only been around for 5 minutes.

The Netherlands wearing the wrong shade of orange probably isn't helping his mood either.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 04:53:58 PM
If you want to see pictures of Isaac Newton dressed suggestively, good luck to you.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 04:56:22 PM
question was nothing to do with me mr FACTS
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 05:00:46 PM
Awful attempt by the Dutch at their orange colours, looks more like a Wolves strip to me.
Lots of empty seats for the first really competitive match of the tournament. No surprise though looking at the rip off prices from match tickets and accommodation etc.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 05:16:49 PM
I already have a bad feeling that this World Cup is going to be too percussiony for me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 05:34:57 PM
Villa-linked player on for Senegal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: wince on November 21, 2022, 05:42:36 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID
Potato eaters???? Ffs.

Go back under the witton bridge and play with the traffic. Or yourself
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 05:44:25 PM
The Dutch kit is playing havoc with the colours on my tv
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 05:44:55 PM
SOMETHING HAPPENED!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: wince on November 21, 2022, 05:45:28 PM
The Dutch kit is playing havoc with the colours on my tv
Look like a load of carrots
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 05:45:36 PM
Great run by Gakpo
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 06:03:24 PM
Dull game and poor keeping for both goals.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 06:06:12 PM
Looks like England will be playing Senegal in the last 16.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 06:07:17 PM
Looks like England will be playing Senegal in the last 16.

I wouldn't rule Ecuador out, Senegal didn't look up to much.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: wince on November 21, 2022, 06:08:31 PM
Said I wouldnít watch and probably wonít bother watching anymore tbh. So wrong WC in winter.
Itís all soulless
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 06:11:58 PM
Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

Potato eaters? ??? Ffs.

To be fair, we do like our spuds. 8)

Obviously not if they're King Edwards or British Queens.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 06:15:40 PM
On one love armband why don't the players who are not on a booking wear it in the third game and if they do get booked the norm is that bookings  do not carry  into the knockout stage?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Risso on November 21, 2022, 06:17:09 PM
On one love armband why don't the players who are not on a booking wear it in the third game and if they do get booked the norm is that bookings  do not carry  into the knockout stage?

Risk of a second yellow and a sending off?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 06:20:16 PM
Dull game and poor keeping for both goals.
Typical that Senegalese put up a great fight and  their PL primadonna let's them down.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Martin Carruthers on November 21, 2022, 06:20:36 PM
Goalkeepers wear it maybe?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lucky Eddie on November 21, 2022, 06:24:30 PM
Roy Keane has one shit beard
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 06:25:32 PM
On one love armband why don't the players who are not on a booking wear it in the third game and if they do get booked the norm is that bookings  do not carry  into the knockout stage?

Risk of a second yellow and a sending off?
Yea bollocks...fuck FIFA.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 06:30:41 PM
On one love armband why don't the players who are not on a booking wear it in the third game and if they do get booked the norm is that bookings  do not carry  into the knockout stage?

Risk of a second yellow and a sending off?

Isn't it after the QF where they are scrubbed, so as to ensure no one would miss the final due to 2 yellows?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lucky Eddie on November 21, 2022, 06:34:36 PM
They're footballers not politicians and collectively they've stood for more than most under Southgates stewardship.

And that's coming from someone who's not a fan of Gareth Southgate and certainly not a fan of footballers.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 06:38:34 PM
The last time Wales played in a World Cup was in 1958, when they lost to Brazil 1 nil, the only goal scored by a 17 year old Pele. He went onto score 3 in the semi and 2 in the final, which Brazil won 5-2.
 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: wince on November 21, 2022, 06:42:09 PM
Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

Potato eaters? ??? Ffs.

To be fair, we do like our spuds. 8)

Obviously not if they're King Edwards or British Queens.
Indeed we do! But fuck that prick
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 21, 2022, 06:53:16 PM
They're footballers not politicians and collectively they've stood for more than most under Southgates stewardship.

And that's coming from someone who's not a fan of Gareth Southgate and certainly not a fan of footballers.

Iíll be honest I donít see whatís political about universal human rights.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 21, 2022, 06:56:32 PM
The last time Wales played in a World Cup was in 1958, when they lost to Brazil 1 nil, the only goal scored by a 17 year old Pele. He went onto score 3 in the semi and 2 in the final, which Brazil won 5-2.
 

Yeah but what's he done recently?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 07:01:10 PM
The last time Wales played in a World Cup was in 1958, when they lost to Brazil 1 nil, the only goal scored by a 17 year old Pele. He went onto score 3 in the semi and 2 in the final, which Brazil won 5-2.
 

Yeah but what's he done recently?

Sold a lot of viagra for a start.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:01:19 PM
Apparently Wales put the USA on the map.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: algy on November 21, 2022, 07:03:24 PM
Apparently Wales put the USA on the map.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoc
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:06:02 PM
World Cup FACT:

There are thirteen Birminghams in the USA. Ohio, Indiana and Pennsylvania have two each. Ohio used to have three but the third is now a ghost town. They should have called it Coventry.

More World Cup FACTS tomorrow.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 21, 2022, 07:07:10 PM
We are just too good, I was actuality worried more about Iran more than the Welsh or Americans.

Love the passion from the country !!


Paddyís and Jocks are just bitter and I love the fact they are so bitter.

Both sweaties and potato eaters will never be accepted down the Villa and you know it Ö

No surrender

UTV

VTID
your right no paddies or Jocks down the Villa, damnit I forgot about George Ramsey and Peter McParland
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 07:09:07 PM
They're footballers not politicians and collectively they've stood for more than most under Southgates stewardship.

And that's coming from someone who's not a fan of Gareth Southgate and certainly not a fan of footballers.

Iíll be honest I donít see whatís political about universal human rights.

Well they are rarely universally upheld so that might be a clue.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 21, 2022, 07:09:36 PM
World Cup FACT:

There are thirteen Birminghams in the USA. Ohio, Indiana and Pennsylvania have two each. Ohio used to have three but the third is now a ghost town. They should have called it Coventry.

More World Cup FACTS tomorrow.
Ever thought about starting a forum?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:11:17 PM
Will there be biscuits?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 07:12:31 PM
This is definitely the standout game in the group stages in terms of national anthems. Was a nice jaunty version of The Star-Spangled Banner.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 21, 2022, 07:12:41 PM
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Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 21, 2022, 07:15:32 PM
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Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 21, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
This is definitely the standout game in the group stages in terms of national anthems. Was a nice jaunty version of The Star-Spangled Banner.
I really like the Welsh Anthem almost as good as the Polish.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:17:58 PM
Wales seem to have settled down a bit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 07:18:39 PM
I like that the USA coach has a tee-shirt on that simply states STATES. Solids, liquids, gasses, theyíre representing every single one.

Colloids can fuck right off though, apparently.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:20:21 PM
I still don't really understand what a plasma is. Apart from a big telly.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 07:23:37 PM
I still don't really understand what a plasma is. Apart from a big telly.

Plasma is just something they made up for Holby City.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:31:18 PM
Wales are going to shitfest this one-nil with a Bale goal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 21, 2022, 07:32:34 PM
So many empty seats at this WC. Interesting that the official attendance at the Netherlands game was 1500 above the capacity.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 07:32:43 PM
Apparently Wales put the USA on the map.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoc

Saint Brendan (of Clonfert) says hello.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:37:01 PM
Goal Villa fan junior.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 21, 2022, 07:37:13 PM
I like that the USA coach has a tee-shirt on that simply states STATES. Solids, liquids, gasses, theyíre representing every single one.

Colloids can fuck right off though, apparently.
Language like that can lead to suspension.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 07:38:02 PM
USA! USA!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:39:27 PM
Di Stefano is surely the correct answer to best player never to play at a World Cup.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 21, 2022, 07:40:28 PM
Are Wales going into the Americans half anytime soon
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 07:40:53 PM
Good tackle by the cheat Bale, gets booked for it. LOL.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 07:43:11 PM
Di Stefano is surely the correct answer to best player never to play at a World Cup.
Along with George Best

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 07:43:26 PM
Bale should have been sent off for that. Mainly because he's Gareth Bale.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 07:44:00 PM
Shame really but Wales havenít turned up yet in this game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 07:44:22 PM
The correct, and only correct, answer to the best player to never play in a world cup is Brian Little.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 21, 2022, 07:44:43 PM
Good tackle by the cheat Bale, gets booked for it. LOL.


Wasn't good, played the man first.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 07:49:35 PM
It's not a case of Wales haven't turned up yet, it's just a case of they are a poor side. Only the likes of Qatar and Iran have such a poor squad.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rodders on November 21, 2022, 07:52:54 PM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.

Similar here. The surnames on my dad's side are all a piece of piss, but my maternal grandma is a Jones from the valleys as well.
It's cos traditionally Welsh folk didn't have surnames, you'd be like Owain ap Llewellyn ap Evan (Owain, son of Llewellyn, son of Evan) or whatever - they could get pretty long, but would basically give you the person's entire family history. Then Wales was subsumed in to England in the 16th century, and as part of that Welsh folk were effectively required to adopt anglicised surnames.  However, the problem at the time was also that you had to be really careful which surnames you picked, since being the 'wrong' religion was generally a bad idea (ruling out anything with pagan links, or links to catholicism) - so there was only a very small number of 'safe surnames available at JUST the same moment that a load of Welsh people were trying to find a hereditary surname to adopt.

Welsh patronymic surname FACT. So William ap William eventually becomes Pwilliam.

See also:

ap Richard - Pritchard
ap Hugh - Pugh
ap Robert - Probert
ap Owen - Powen (Bowen)
ap Evan - Pevan (Bevan)
ap Howell - Powell
ap Rhys - Preece & Price

The fun we have filling the long dark nights out here in the shires.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 21, 2022, 07:53:48 PM
Wales looked awful that half, no effort to close down and poor passing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 21, 2022, 07:54:38 PM
It's not a case of Wales haven't turned up yet, it's just a case of they are a poor side. Only the likes of Qatar and Iran have such a poor squad.

I think they'll come home having still not scored in a World Cup Finals competition since 1958.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 07:58:03 PM
Considering how new they are to the game, I've always liked the way the US try to play football, you can see how coaching has been a major part in how they have developed the game there. Not sure Wales are so bad, I just think the US, at least in that half, are a very disciplined, effective team that know exactly what they're doing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:00:11 PM
He must be the first son of a Head of State to score in a World Cup?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:01:06 PM
USA are playing well, but the Wales squad is just poor. Most of them are lower league players, or don't play that often for their club sides. They've done very well to qualify.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:01:06 PM
It's not a case of Wales haven't turned up yet, it's just a case of they are a poor side. Only the likes of Qatar and Iran have such a poor squad.

I think they'll come home having still not scored in a World Cup Finals competition since 1958.

If they don't score against that Iran mob, they shouldn't be allowed home.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 08:01:32 PM
As expected Wales are shit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 21, 2022, 08:04:35 PM
This game is a fantastic example of why 5 at the back is shit in most circumstances.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 08:04:53 PM
I'm just surprised it's taken the Americans that long to score. I didn't see the whole first half but from what I saw they rarely got out of their own half.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Chris Smith on November 21, 2022, 08:05:36 PM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.

Similar here. The surnames on my dad's side are all a piece of piss, but my maternal grandma is a Jones from the valleys as well.
It's cos traditionally Welsh folk didn't have surnames, you'd be like Owain ap Llewellyn ap Evan (Owain, son of Llewellyn, son of Evan) or whatever - they could get pretty long, but would basically give you the person's entire family history. Then Wales was subsumed in to England in the 16th century, and as part of that Welsh folk were effectively required to adopt anglicised surnames.  However, the problem at the time was also that you had to be really careful which surnames you picked, since being the 'wrong' religion was generally a bad idea (ruling out anything with pagan links, or links to catholicism) - so there was only a very small number of 'safe surnames available at JUST the same moment that a load of Welsh people were trying to find a hereditary surname to adopt.

Welsh patronymic surname FACT. So William ap William eventually becomes Pwilliam.

See also:

ap Richard - Pritchard
ap Hugh - Pugh
ap Robert - Probert
ap Owen - Powen (Bowen)
ap Evan - Pevan (Bevan)
ap Howell - Powell
ap Rhys - Preece & Price

The fun we have filling the long dark nights out here in the shires.

ap Hugh - Pugh, Barney Mcgrew
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:06:14 PM
As expected Wales are shit.

You are disappointingly correct   :(
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:10:12 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 21, 2022, 08:10:17 PM
Surprised to only just realise that Brennan Johnson of Notts Forest is on the Welsh bench, as he strikes me as a far better player than any other Welsh midfielder or attacker that has started, or is now on the pitch after the HT break.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 08:10:49 PM
Sticking with two relics Bale and Ramsey is costing Wales dear in this match.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:12:07 PM
Quite like Hartson bemoaning that you can no longer "ram into goalies".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:13:17 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Former Wales international, not sure if she's a journalist...

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1594766624313462784?t=ADNbD5PRl_hyWA0lPBq8vQ&s=19
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:13:33 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Apparently, Welsh supporters wearing rainbow bucket hats had them confiscated or were refused admission
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 08:13:58 PM
A little better from Wales now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:15:02 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Former Wales international, not sure if she's a journalist...

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1594766624313462784?t=ADNbD5PRl_hyWA0lPBq8vQ&s=19

Thanks CD
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 08:16:05 PM
He must be the first son of a Head of State to score in a World Cup?
Heís better than his ďuncleĒ.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 21, 2022, 08:17:43 PM
Welsh patronymic surname FACT. So William ap William eventually becomes Pwilliam.

See also:

ap Richard - Pritchard
ap Hugh - Pugh
ap Robert - Probert
ap Owen - Powen (Bowen)
ap Evan - Pevan (Bevan)
ap Howell - Powell
ap Rhys - Preece & Price

The fun we have filling the long dark nights out here in the shires.

I was only just saying to the other half that you donít seem to hear Americans describe themselves as Welsh American, only Irish and Scottish. Now you show us that the designer of two of the Starship Enterprises is probably of Welsh stock!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:18:12 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Apparently, Welsh supporters wearing rainbow bucket hats had them confiscated or were refused admission

Disgusting. It's a hat, for god's sake. They've allowed all those American flags in, which could be argued are more provocative in the Middle East.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 08:18:50 PM
So many empty seats at this WC. Interesting that the official attendance at the Netherlands game was 1500 above the capacity.
They borrowed capacity from earlier match. That was 23K below capacity😂
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:18:59 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Former Wales international, not sure if she's a journalist...

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1594766624313462784?t=ADNbD5PRl_hyWA0lPBq8vQ&s=19

Laura McAllister is a Professor and a journalist
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 08:20:01 PM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.

Similar here. The surnames on my dad's side are all a piece of piss, but my maternal grandma is a Jones from the valleys as well.
It's cos traditionally Welsh folk didn't have surnames, you'd be like Owain ap Llewellyn ap Evan (Owain, son of Llewellyn, son of Evan) or whatever - they could get pretty long, but would basically give you the person's entire family history. Then Wales was subsumed in to England in the 16th century, and as part of that Welsh folk were effectively required to adopt anglicised surnames.  However, the problem at the time was also that you had to be really careful which surnames you picked, since being the 'wrong' religion was generally a bad idea (ruling out anything with pagan links, or links to catholicism) - so there was only a very small number of 'safe surnames available at JUST the same moment that a load of Welsh people were trying to find a hereditary surname to adopt.

Welsh patronymic surname FACT. So William ap William eventually becomes Pwilliam.

See also:

ap Richard - Pritchard
ap Hugh - Pugh
ap Robert - Probert
ap Owen - Powen (Bowen)
ap Evan - Pevan (Bevan)
ap Howell - Powell
ap Rhys - Preece & Price

The fun we have filling the long dark nights out here in the shires.

That's a good fact. One I feel like I should have known, but didn't.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 21, 2022, 08:22:25 PM
Welsh patronymic surname FACT. So William ap William eventually becomes Pwilliam.

See also:

ap Richard - Pritchard
ap Hugh - Pugh
ap Robert - Probert
ap Owen - Powen (Bowen)
ap Evan - Pevan (Bevan)
ap Howell - Powell
ap Rhys - Preece & Price

The fun we have filling the long dark nights out here in the shires.

I was only just saying to the other half that you donít seem to hear Americans describe themselves as Welsh American, only Irish and Scottish. Now you show us that the designer of two of the Starship Enterprises is probably of Welsh stock!

I do have an American friend (surname Williams) who is very proud of his Welsh ancestry.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 08:22:29 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Apparently, Welsh supporters wearing rainbow bucket hats had them confiscated or were refused admission

And it wasn't just because they were Welsh, it happened to an American journalist as well. https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/1594721724746338305
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: algy on November 21, 2022, 08:22:33 PM
My only problem with the Welsh is my 4x Great Grandparents, surname Jones, calling their son William.

Do you know how difficult it is to figure our which of the umpteen dozen Williams Joneses in 1830s South Wales is my one?  >:(

Anyhow, in a meeting of English blokes with Welsh ancestry held in a Newport pub last Monday, we decided that we'd settle for Wales beating England but both getting knocked out in the group stage.

Similar here. The surnames on my dad's side are all a piece of piss, but my maternal grandma is a Jones from the valleys as well.
It's cos traditionally Welsh folk didn't have surnames, you'd be like Owain ap Llewellyn ap Evan (Owain, son of Llewellyn, son of Evan) or whatever - they could get pretty long, but would basically give you the person's entire family history. Then Wales was subsumed in to England in the 16th century, and as part of that Welsh folk were effectively required to adopt anglicised surnames.  However, the problem at the time was also that you had to be really careful which surnames you picked, since being the 'wrong' religion was generally a bad idea (ruling out anything with pagan links, or links to catholicism) - so there was only a very small number of 'safe surnames available at JUST the same moment that a load of Welsh people were trying to find a hereditary surname to adopt.

Welsh patronymic surname FACT. So William ap William eventually becomes Pwilliam.

See also:

ap Richard - Pritchard
ap Hugh - Pugh
ap Robert - Probert
ap Owen - Powen (Bowen)
ap Evan - Pevan (Bevan)
ap Howell - Powell
ap Rhys - Preece & Price

The fun we have filling the long dark nights out here in the shires.

That's a good fact. One I feel like I should have known, but didn't.
Me too - excellent fact.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:24:25 PM
Great save.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:25:20 PM
Wales should really be level by now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 21, 2022, 08:27:52 PM
Sticking with two relics Bale and Ramsey is costing Wales dear in this match.

Bale and Ramsey are not as old as their tired performances make them look. They are just 33 and 31 respectively, but neither of them seem to have wanted to push for regular first team football at club level for several seasons.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 08:29:11 PM
Is it just me who is irritated by the 'Defensive Line Breaks' stat which keeps popping up? This isn't rugby!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 21, 2022, 08:29:56 PM
Surprising substitution from the USA, you'd have thought he'd be the first name on the teamsheet.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 08:31:05 PM
Surprising substitution from the USA, you'd have thought he'd be the first name on the teamsheet.
But not quite in the Sandford phone directory.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 08:32:03 PM
Is it just me who is irritated by the 'Defensive Line Breaks' stat which keeps popping up? This isn't rugby!

No you're not the only one. What the hell does it mean anyway?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 08:34:10 PM
Is it just me who is irritated by the 'Defensive Line Breaks' stat which keeps popping up? This isn't rugby!

No you're not the only one. What the hell does it mean anyway?
I'm not quite sure but I think it may be dribbling past a player.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:34:11 PM
Wales a bit unlucky not to be level this half.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:36:43 PM
Need to get Johnson on
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 08:36:54 PM
Did I hear that correctly? A Welsh journalist was not allowed in because she was wearing a 'banned symbol' (a rainbow hat)?

Apparently, Welsh supporters wearing rainbow bucket hats had them confiscated or were refused admission

To be fair it was only the women that were told to remove them. They said nothing to the men.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:37:09 PM
And not letting people in because they have a rainbow on their shirts or hats etc sums up what a shit show that country is. What happened to all their platitudes about how they wouldn't do shit like that?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 21, 2022, 08:37:16 PM
Nice dark clear night.  Be out with he telescope tonight 😀😀😀Thos game has got a bit predictable. Wales have stopped the pressure they had. Can see them going another goal down in a moment. Sick to death of USA USA USA.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 08:38:55 PM
Need to get Johnson on

And here he comes.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:39:42 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiG06y2WQAM0ZWz?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 08:40:29 PM
Wow.Penalty!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:40:37 PM
Clear penalty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 21, 2022, 08:41:33 PM
Awful challenge on Bale.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 08:42:00 PM
What a stupid tackle
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:42:38 PM
Whoís the OTT commentator on ITV?

Is it Tyldesley
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 08:42:40 PM
ďHe scores when he wantsĒ Clive embarrassing himself
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 08:43:16 PM
Well deserve equaliser. Wales have been much better this half.

I think Hartson is going to spontaneously combust.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 21, 2022, 08:43:45 PM
Well taken penalty, full of power.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
Tyldesly spouting absolute shit as always. He really is a massive wanker.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 08:44:14 PM
Whoís the OTT commentator on ITV?

Is it Tyldesley
Yes, but not as annoying as Hartson alongside him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:44:21 PM
Wales more likely to win this than TGS now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: mrfuse on November 21, 2022, 08:44:24 PM
ďHe scores when he wantsĒ

Made me laugh he scores when he wants ......after being awarded a penalty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2022, 08:44:27 PM
Ha! He absolutely buried that. Excellent stuff.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 21, 2022, 08:44:38 PM
ďHe scores when he wantsĒ Clive embarrassing himself


he canít help himself
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:44:46 PM
Is the main commentator Welsh? I understand Hartson, but they seem a little carried away given it's a group-stage penalty equaliser against USA.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:44:56 PM
Deserved, USA seemed to come out for the second half thinking the game was already done and dusted.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 08:45:04 PM
That's the way to take a penalty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:45:06 PM
Whoís the OTT commentator on ITV?

Is it Tyldesley
Yes, but not as annoying as Hartson alongside him.

I haven't minded Hartson, TBH. Tyldesley has been, and will always be, fucking atrocious.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:46:43 PM
Anyone would think he scored a goal to rival Maradona's second against England listening to that pair, rather than a penalty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:47:26 PM
Whoís the OTT commentator on ITV?

Is it Tyldesley
Yes, but not as annoying as Hartson alongside him.

Nowt wrong with Hartson
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 08:48:44 PM
After watching this match, is it just a question of how many goals England can score against these 2 teams?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:48:50 PM
Anyone would think he scored a goal to rival Maradona's second against England listening to that pair, rather than a penalty.

I know, it was ridiculous. They're still going on about it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:49:41 PM
Johnson had to go for goal because Baleís far to slow these days
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 08:49:48 PM
My favourite moment that sums up Tyldesley and his permanent obsession with wanting some 'memorable' commentary for a goal was him screaming out ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY as Shrek shaped for a shot that was scuffed and nearly went for a throw in.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 08:49:54 PM
After watching this match, is it just a question of how many goals England can score against these 2 teams?

England will beat America then play the reserves against Wales, Wales to sneak a point and go through. IMO.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:50:11 PM
After watching this match, is it just a question of how many goals England can score against these 2 teams?

That's true of most of England's group-stage opponents, to be fair.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 08:50:34 PM
Kieffer Moore's been fantastic since he came on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 21, 2022, 08:51:50 PM
Can you imagine how long some of Villaís games would be if Refs applied the same added time in the Premier League?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 08:52:55 PM
Can Iran play their deep sitting counter attacking game and get anything against either of these? Neither defence looks particularly solid.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 08:53:17 PM
Have the commentators taken something? I've never heard anything like it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 21, 2022, 08:53:28 PM
Is Alex Ferguson determining how many minutes are added onto each half in this World Cup!!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: mrfuse on November 21, 2022, 08:54:31 PM
My favourite moment that sums up Tyldesley and his permanent obsession with wanting some 'memorable' commentary for a goal was him screaming out ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY as Shrek shaped for a shot that was scuffed and nearly went for a throw in.

I hate that in commentary it keeps happening every time Haaland gets anywhere near the ball.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: devilla on November 21, 2022, 08:54:37 PM
I love hearing a Welsh crowd sing. Stirring stuff.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 21, 2022, 08:59:10 PM
This has been the best game so far.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 21, 2022, 09:00:10 PM
Midnight in Qatar
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 09:00:17 PM
Funny how they didn't say much about that Bale touch that even Watkins would have been embarrassed about.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 09:00:34 PM
Is Alex Ferguson determining how many minutes are added onto each half in this World Cup!!

One of the commentators suggested earlier that it may be due to a FIFA directive to cut down on time wasting.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 09:00:36 PM
Wales win 1-1. Take that you Yanks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Aldridge Villa on November 21, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
USA guilty of trying to sit on a one goal lead. Only themselves to blame.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 09:02:02 PM
Have the commentators taken something? I've never heard anything like it.

Has Clive mentioned "that night in Barcelona" yet?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 09:02:17 PM
Fair result.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 09:02:28 PM
Fair result, USA fucked that by acting like they were 4-0 up in the second half. On that showing England should see both off, and Iran could get a result against them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 09:02:51 PM
Funny how they didn't say much about that Bale touch that even Watkins would have been embarrassed about.

If they'd done that, they might've had to have given back some of the money they've clearly been paid by the Welsh tourism board.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 09:02:59 PM
Nah, both those teams are streets ahead of Iran.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 09:03:49 PM
Have the commentators taken something? I've never heard anything like it.

Has Clive mentioned "that night in Barcelona" yet?

It's been nauseating even by his standards.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 09:04:25 PM
Can Iran play their deep sitting counter attacking game and get anything against either of these? Neither defence looks particularly solid.
I think despite the hammering today Iran are a better all round team than these two.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 09:05:06 PM
Can Iran play their deep sitting counter attacking game and get anything against either of these? Neither defence looks particularly solid.
I think despite the hammering today Iran are a better all round team than these two.

I think you're insane.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 21, 2022, 09:06:02 PM
Have the commentators taken something? I've never heard anything like it.

Has Clive mentioned "that night in Barcelona" yet?

It's been nauseating even by his standards.

Can't stand him, that's why it's handy to have RTE as well. :)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 09:06:07 PM
Iran caused us problems half a dozen times and our midfield and defence is much better than either of these two. And that's even when Maguire was on the pitch.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 09:06:41 PM
Probably the most interesting game so far. The World Cup starts in earnest tomorrow when Argentina play.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 09:08:44 PM
Have the commentators taken something? I've never heard anything like it.

Has Clive mentioned "that night in Barcelona" yet?

It's been nauseating even by his standards.

Can't stand him, that's why it's handy to have RTE as well. :)

Yep, he's a hysterical prat. All those horrible "the whole of Britain will be behind United/Liverpool tonight" Champions League moments came flooding back.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 21, 2022, 09:09:59 PM
The World Cup starts in earnest tomorrow when Argentina play.
Just about the only thing you got right today.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 21, 2022, 09:11:07 PM
Iran caused us probalems half a dozen times and our midfield and defence is much better than either of these two. And that's even when Maguire was on the pitch.

I think a lot of it is people who had set themselves up for England to be rubbish are having to rationalise a really good England performance as being all about Iran being bad.

It's not all that different to the Iran side that got a point against Portugal and were unlucky to lose narrowly to Spain in 2018, and now with a better striker.

I reckon Iran will probably end up on 3-4 points.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 09:12:12 PM
It's possible to think that England played well and that Iran are rubbish. If they get more than a point I'll be amazed. I'd be mildly surprised if they don't end up with zero. I'll be quite happy if they prove me wrong as they seem a decent bunch.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: rob_bridge on November 21, 2022, 09:39:42 PM
On one love armband why don't the players who are not on a booking wear it in the third game and if they do get booked the norm is that bookings  do not carry  into the knockout stage?

Particularly 88th minute subs
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: algy on November 21, 2022, 09:41:59 PM
Is the main commentator Welsh? I understand Hartson, but they seem a little carried away given it's a group-stage penalty equaliser against USA.
Poor old English folk having to put up with biased & OTT coverage given to their neighbours. That must be shit eh, can't imagine what that's like ;-)


Quite happy with the 1-1 draw. Dunno how indicative my views are given I'm an Englishman who's adopted home is Wales (and has been for 20+ years). But the US have a strong national team, and a draw against them is no mean feat. I'm not expecting a victory against Iran, but if there is a win, that's the most likely source. The neighbours ... we'll see. Obviously England have a much stronger squad. They're favourites without doubt. But I want to see a battle for those points. You don't travel half way round the world to take a load of shit from the arsehole who lives in the flat below you.

Overall - hope Wales put on a decent showing. Getting out of the groups would be fantastic but not overly expecting it. Might happen, but it probably means beating Iran and drawing with England (or vice-versa) which would be ... a challenge.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: villadelph on November 21, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Can Iran play their deep sitting counter attacking game and get anything against either of these? Neither defence looks particularly solid.
I think despite the hammering today Iran are a better all round team than these two.

..wtf?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TonyD on November 21, 2022, 10:00:10 PM
Wales  and US will beat Iran. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 21, 2022, 10:05:44 PM
If Iran get a point Iíll eat my souíwester
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: TheMalandro on November 21, 2022, 10:26:08 PM
If Iran get a point Iíll eat my souíwester


The CD?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: FatSam on November 21, 2022, 10:27:42 PM
I think the fact that FIFA have banned them from wearing it has made it into as much of a story as wearing it would have - so itís probably served itís purpose.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: CT Villan on November 21, 2022, 10:33:32 PM
I don't remember Pulisic being that whiny with Chelsea, seemed to be moaning to the ref non-stop today.

I think both Wales and the US will struggle with our forward line if Southgate keeps the shackles off.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 21, 2022, 10:42:01 PM
Is the main commentator Welsh? I understand Hartson, but they seem a little carried away given it's a group-stage penalty equaliser against USA.
Poor old English folk having to put up with biased & OTT coverage given to their neighbours. That must be shit eh, can't imagine what that's like ;-)


Haha, pretty much the main reason I don't support England. That same smug London/North West-centric commercial culture that dominates the PL, and the accompanying assumption that every fan wants exactly the same things they do - whether it be watching 'top stars' (who they play for being irrelevant), feeling pride in the brand strength of the PL, having cackling twats like Micah Richards in the studio because we all love 'banter', or wanting England/Man City/Liverpool to win.

I, on the other hand, don't give a shit who plays in the PL unless they play for us; invariably want the English teams to lose in Europe; hate inane loudmouth twats; and as a neutral I will generally support the side that the commentators, pundits & the most numerous or vocal supporters want to win, because I find their enthusiasm unbearable and their disappointment amusing.

I'm a lovely man 😄

(Oh, and I think about people like that BigFang twat from earlier.)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 21, 2022, 10:58:59 PM
I don't mind biased commentating, after the way the commentators were in our games against Bayern and the Inter penalties, we can hardly complain.

It's the Tyldesley shouting out orgasmically everytime someone he's heard of has a shot, that everyone in England wants Man Utd* to win in Europe when the reality is the vast majority want to see them battered and knocked out, preferably by the likes of Videoton**. Or the absoulte shite spouted about Bale tonight, and the same applies to shite he's spouted about Rooney et al in the past.

*insert other English clubs here

** one for the youngsters there
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2022, 11:29:05 PM
Not sure if this follow up video has been shared on here, apologies if so.

https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594657948525289473?t=tsileqq-eKUz4ByvEO_SZA&s=19
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 08:56:55 AM
Not sure if this follow up video has been shared on here, apologies if so.

https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594657948525289473?t=tsileqq-eKUz4ByvEO_SZA&s=19

Excellent. He got that whole thing spot on.

Sad wankers asking to see proof of his charity donations in the comment under it though. What is wrong with people?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Baldy on November 22, 2022, 09:15:09 AM
FIFA are clamping down on time wasting. We can expect every match in the World Cup and probably onwards to be 10 to 15 minutes longer.

About time.  ;D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 09:24:42 AM
World Cup FACT:

There are thirteen Birminghams in the USA. Ohio, Indiana and Pennsylvania have two each. Ohio used to have three but the third is now a ghost town. They should have called it Coventry.

More World Cup FACTS tomorrow.
I have been to two. The one in Ohio is a bit of a Nuneaton but Birmingham in Michigan is really posh, in a USA way.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 22, 2022, 09:30:20 AM
FIFA are clamping down on time wasting. We can expect every match in the World Cup and probably onwards to be 10 to 15 minutes longer.

About time.  ;D

Argentina's game this morning will finish sometime tomorrow
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 22, 2022, 09:41:29 AM
Not sure if this follow up video has been shared on here, apologies if so.

https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594657948525289473?t=tsileqq-eKUz4ByvEO_SZA&s=19

Excellent. He got that whole thing spot on.

Sad wankers asking to see proof of his charity donations in the comment under it though. What is wrong with people?

Well done Joe, he has played a blinder
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Baldy on November 22, 2022, 09:42:59 AM
FIFA are clamping down on time wasting. We can expect every match in the World Cup and probably onwards to be 10 to 15 minutes longer.

About time.  ;D

Argentina's game this morning will finish sometime tomorrow

TV schedules will be fecked!! And it is not just deliberate time wasting, the 4th official is looking at goal celebrations, VAR decisions, penalties etc.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 09:52:52 AM
Not sure if this follow up video has been shared on here, apologies if so.

https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594657948525289473?t=tsileqq-eKUz4ByvEO_SZA&s=19

Excellent. He got that whole thing spot on.

Sad wankers asking to see proof of his charity donations in the comment under it though. What is wrong with people?

Probably the same ones who wanted him jailed for it at first.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: lovejoy on November 22, 2022, 09:58:41 AM
Today I am professor, I am journalist ....
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: trinityoap on November 22, 2022, 10:06:32 AM
And about time too! (Geddit).
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:09:26 AM
Argentina penalty given. Probably is, technically, but one of those where you could be given ten penalties a game if you give it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:10:26 AM
Messi scores. One-nil.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 10:11:09 AM
So two penalties now for holding and yet the Maguire one wasn't given.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
92nd Messi goal for Argentine. wow.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 22, 2022, 10:14:34 AM
So two penalties now for holding and yet the Maguire one wasn't given.
Whilst I am all for this initiative, they really have got to be consistent and of course they wonít be. It gives them another opportunity to decide the outcome of games.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:17:28 AM
The Saudis haven't been too bad since the goal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 22, 2022, 10:21:08 AM
So two penalties now for holding and yet the Maguire one wasn't given.
Whilst I am all for this initiative, they really have got to be consistent and of course they wonít be. It gives them another opportunity to decide the outcome of games.
Hopefully it's just that the first VAR official bottled it. Seemed like he had received a reminder by injury time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 22, 2022, 10:21:57 AM
From what I've seen so far there has been little or no time wasting in the games played, or any need for there to be really. Though there have been a fair few injuries in games, the amount of time being added on seems quite excessive.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:23:50 AM
Messi scores again but offside. He was miles from the nearest defender, he didn't need to go early.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:24:44 AM
Argentina don't seem to understand the offside rule.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 10:25:43 AM
Maybe JPA has been coaching them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 10:28:27 AM
2-0
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:28:30 AM
Two-nil, Martinez. (Not our one).
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:29:36 AM
One-nil again, offside.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 10:29:51 AM
disallowed
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 10:30:54 AM
No way was that offside
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 22, 2022, 10:30:55 AM
More VAR farce.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 10:33:22 AM
Only 1-0 so far but this looks like it could be a hammering if Argentina can time their runs a bit better, 2 disallowed and a couple of others where they were nearly away. Emi has had an easy half hour.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:33:44 AM
Di Maria has kept Saudi Arabia in this. Buendia knows the offside rule, he should be in.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 10:35:54 AM
Another offside goal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 10:36:11 AM
What are these graphics all about? They are just made up.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 22, 2022, 10:36:39 AM
Offside has been automated. Have a read here (https://www.fifa.com/technical/media-releases/semi-automated-offside-technology-to-be-used-at-fifa-world-cup-2022-tm). Good, about time, the only use of VAR I agree with.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 22, 2022, 10:43:34 AM
Somehow I expected Argentina to be better than this. I thought they would at least have better understanding of offside than an under-13 team.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 10:45:21 AM
And it seems that although FIFA said bringing the games to Qatar would bring about change, it seems that the only change is FIFA turning anti-gay and anti-love.

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Belgium told to change away shirt because it has 'love' written on it
 Belgium have been instructed by FIFA to change their away shirt because it has the word "love" written on it.

The white kit, which also features a rainbow trim, is not related to the OneLove armbands which England and Wales backed down on wearing yesterday, but rather a collaboration with the Tomorrowland music festival.

Nevertheless, FIFA have insisted the word "love", which is written on the collar, be removed.

Peter Bossaert, CEO of the Belgian Football Association, said: "The word love must disappear. It's sad, but FIFA leaves us no choice. The rest of the equipment remains unchanged."
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 22, 2022, 11:05:20 AM
They should all dye their hair with rainbow stripes
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:07:27 AM
What if the Belgian Parliament voted temporarily to change the national flag to the rainbow one and their anthem to "Sing If You're Glad To Be Gay"? They couldn't stop them then...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 11:08:25 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 22, 2022, 11:10:00 AM
Well the crowd could do more. What about a rousing rendition of Stand up if you Love the Gays?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:11:08 AM
One-one!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 11:11:27 AM
Martinez looked dodgy there.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 11:13:36 AM
Not sure if this follow up video has been shared on here, apologies if so.

https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594657948525289473?t=tsileqq-eKUz4ByvEO_SZA&s=19

Excellent. He got that whole thing spot on.

Sad wankers asking to see proof of his charity donations in the comment under it though. What is wrong with people?

Well done Joe, he has played a blinder

Joe plays the long game on a lot of his things*, so it was clear that there's be a twist.

*The Kings Heath one is a good example. I think that was four years in the making.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: sid1964 on November 22, 2022, 11:14:02 AM
never going to buy a Hyundai!!

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
Any fault on Emi for the goal ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 11:16:13 AM
Blimey.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:16:19 AM
2-1 Saudis
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:16:32 AM
Any fault on Emi for the goal ?

Not for me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 11:17:02 AM
Holy shit
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 11:17:23 AM
WTF is going on
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 22, 2022, 11:17:44 AM
what a goal
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Nunkin1965 on November 22, 2022, 11:18:56 AM
Wow!!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 11:19:15 AM
He's got a foot like a traction engine
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Baldy on November 22, 2022, 11:20:09 AM
Feck a duck
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 22, 2022, 11:20:14 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.

Yep. Just said that to other half. Thereís a load of ways they could do it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: thick_mike on November 22, 2022, 11:21:43 AM
Wow!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 11:22:43 AM
Saudis bigger,stronger,fitter
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 11:23:09 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.

Yep. Just said that to other half. Thereís a load of ways they could do it.

I expect FIFA would be right in there to stop it. After all they are stating parts of official national kits are not allowed and letting Qatar ban rainbow clothing in the stands (and even entering the country).
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 11:24:29 AM
Saudis bigger,stronger,fitter

Haven't heard that Daft Punk song for yonks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2022, 11:25:42 AM
Argentina really could be doing with the energy and nuisance factor of a little chap from the Birmingham area.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:26:43 AM
I told you the tournament would get good once Argentina were involved.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 11:27:35 AM
Any fault on Emi for the goal ?

Not for me.

Not for me either. First was put through the defenders's legs in the corner in the one spot where he couldn't reach it. The second was hit with a lot of power, he maybe could have been a bit more to his left if you were being critical. 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 11:29:49 AM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 11:29:53 AM
Argentina really could be doing with the energy and nuisance factor of a little chap from the Birmingham area.

I'dcertainly have him ahead of Di Maria who looks well past it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 11:31:04 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.

Yep. Just said that to other half. Thereís a load of ways they could do it.

I expect FIFA would be right in there to stop it. After all they are stating parts of official national kits are not allowed and letting Qatar ban rainbow clothing in the stands (and even entering the country).

I've been disappointed by the lack of action from any of the individual players. So you might get a yellow card or bollocked/dropped by your manager/FA. Some things are just more important.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:32:23 AM
Messi's corners are wank. They don't just need Buendia they need MacPhee.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
Part of me wants Argentina to do well because of Emi and Messi, part of me thinks it would be very very funny if they lose to the Saudis and go out in the group stage.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:39:24 AM
Why do they keep thinking an outswinging corner is going to work when the Saudis are all a foot taller than them? Argentina have been horrifically coached here, it's like Diego is back in charge.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 11:40:39 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.

Yep. Just said that to other half. Thereís a load of ways they could do it.

I expect FIFA would be right in there to stop it. After all they are stating parts of official national kits are not allowed and letting Qatar ban rainbow clothing in the stands (and even entering the country).

I've been disappointed by the lack of action from any of the individual players. So you might get a yellow card or bollocked/dropped by your manager/FA. Some things are just more important.

Especially when you see the courage of the Iran team. Theyíre risking more than a yellow card.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 22, 2022, 11:45:24 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.

Yep. Just said that to other half. Thereís a load of ways they could do it.

I expect FIFA would be right in there to stop it. After all they are stating parts of official national kits are not allowed and letting Qatar ban rainbow clothing in the stands (and even entering the country).

I've been disappointed by the lack of action from any of the individual players. So you might get a yellow card or bollocked/dropped by your manager/FA. Some things are just more important.

Especially when you see the courage of the Iran team. Theyíre risking more than a yellow card.
Yes, that is real courage.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 22, 2022, 11:45:51 AM
Part of me wants Argentina to do well because of Emi and Messi, part of me thinks it would be very very funny if they lose to the Saudis and go out in the group stage.
And we'll have Emi back for a nice rest before our season starts up again!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 11:47:09 AM
Injury time will be interesting here, there's been a lot of time lost in this half so there could easily be 8-9 minutes again.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 22, 2022, 11:47:10 AM
I can tell you exactly why Argentina are losing and getting handed their arse

I lumped on at 6/1
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 11:47:11 AM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley

When we were about ten, a mate got lost on a school trip to one of those games.
A teacher and my mother were in charge his part of the group, so a few of us had to go down from the stand, walk around the track and hang around in the tunnel while they tracked him down.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:47:59 AM
I can tell you exactly why Argentina are losing and getting handed their arse

I lumped on at 6/1

We need to know who Damo has backed so we can all get rich during the tournament.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 22, 2022, 11:48:21 AM
Clinton Morrison on the BBC website has posted that Saudi Arabia 'would bite your hand off for a draw right now.'
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 22, 2022, 11:49:13 AM
Argentina look very flat.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: papa lazarou on November 22, 2022, 11:49:43 AM
And it seems that although FIFA said bringing the games to Qatar would bring about change, it seems that the only change is FIFA turning anti-gay and anti-love.

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Belgium told to change away shirt because it has 'love' written on it
 Belgium have been instructed by FIFA to change their away shirt because it has the word "love" written on it.


It's a pity that Slovenia didn't qualify.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 11:49:44 AM
Clinton Morrison on the BBC website has posted that Saudi Arabia would bite a hand off for a draw right now.
Had to turn it off first half. How is that fool employed as an "expert" ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 11:49:52 AM
Just wear rainbow sweatbands. Or shoelaces or something.

Yep. Just said that to other half. Thereís a load of ways they could do it.

I expect FIFA would be right in there to stop it. After all they are stating parts of official national kits are not allowed and letting Qatar ban rainbow clothing in the stands (and even entering the country).

I've been disappointed by the lack of action from any of the individual players. So you might get a yellow card or bollocked/dropped by your manager/FA. Some things are just more important.

Especially when you see the courage of the Iran team. Theyíre risking more than a yellow card.
Yes, that is real courage.

Absolutely. Whereas any England player who conceals a rainbow armband and puts it on on the pitch will get a yellow card, but achieve instant iconic status. It doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 11:51:34 AM
I'm going 10 mins stoppage time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 11:52:11 AM
Did the Qatari captain get booked for wearing a Free Palestine armband?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:52:22 AM
I don't blame the England players. The FA should have backed them, as they did over poppies.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 11:54:43 AM
Did the Qatari captain get booked for wearing a Free Palestine armband?

If he had worn one, he might have been
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 11:56:03 AM
Argentina look very flat.

Few teams lose belief as fast and as significantly as Argentina do at a WC when things go against them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 11:56:50 AM
Did the Qatari captain get booked for wearing a Free Palestine armband?

If he had worn one, he might have been
Fake?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 11:57:47 AM
That is definitely a difference between Ronaldo and Messi. The former can drive his team onward in adversity, the latter doesn't and even hides.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:58:45 AM
He hasn't hidden. If anything he's been too involved, and reluctant to pass or let other players take set pieces.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Drummond on November 22, 2022, 11:59:11 AM
Messi pissing about there. should have just had a shot.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 22, 2022, 11:59:59 AM
Oh thatís horrible I hope the Saudi player is ok.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 12:00:02 PM
Fuck that's a nasty one. Hope the lad's ok.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: brontebilly on November 22, 2022, 12:01:29 PM
I don't remember Pulisic being that whiny with Chelsea, seemed to be moaning to the ref non-stop today.

I think both Wales and the US will struggle with our forward line if Southgate keeps the shackles off.

Thought Pulisic was fouled constantly and the ref lost control of the game early on. Best I've seen Pulisic play in a long time.

Good point for Wales after a dreadful first half where they got blitzed in midfield. Good tactical changes, Moore made a big difference. I think England will beat the USA comfortably. Once McKennie went off, they ran out of ideas. He has been out injured for a while I think so will do well to be back anywhere near 100% in a few days.

England looked sharp from early on. Granted Iran were like a (dry) pub team in comparison.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 22, 2022, 12:03:26 PM
Saudi you canít be serious.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 12:03:26 PM
Saudi may as well keep conceding corners. Argentina don't have a clue what to do with them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
I don't blame the England players. The FA should have backed them, as they did over poppies.

Yes, I wasn't specifically targeting the England players. I do, however, think it would be a slightly easier gesture for them to make given their wealth, status, and the fact they wouldn't face the same kind of backlash at home as players from some other nations.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 12:05:16 PM
Not that Iím wanting to heap praise on Southgate but in fairness England completely dominated Iran and were absolutely ruthless in front of goal. They did exactly what they needed to do vs Iran whereas Argentina are doing what they always seem to do at recent WCís. This is very embarrassing
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 12:05:21 PM
Iranians aren't Arabs, commentator.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 22, 2022, 12:06:06 PM
This is taking the piss now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 12:06:14 PM
Well thatís most of the accumulaters gone for today, including mine May I add. Sad to say but Messi and Di Maria look a bit past their best.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: simon ward 50 on November 22, 2022, 12:07:10 PM
Poland or Belgium then?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 12:07:41 PM
That is definitely a difference between Ronaldo and Messi. The former can drive his team onward in adversity, the latter doesn't and even hides.

Messi is a team player, so he needs a good team around him to shine.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 22, 2022, 12:08:46 PM
I feel sorry for Emi but other than that fcuk them.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 12:08:55 PM
KSA win. Hahaha that's absolutely mental.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 22, 2022, 12:09:10 PM
Ha!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 12:09:38 PM
As World Cup shocks go, can't remember any bigger than this one.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 22, 2022, 12:09:41 PM
I didnít know Thomas Frank was in charge of the Saudis
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 22, 2022, 12:11:12 PM
That was brilliant
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 22, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Argentina just didnít look like scoring in the last quarter of the game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 12:12:59 PM
As World Cup shocks go, can't remember any bigger than this one.

Senegal vs France was bigger at the time, I'd say.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 12:13:11 PM
Argentina had a 36 game unbeaten streak coming into this game. Of course they fuck it all up at the WC.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 12:14:01 PM
Argentina just got bullied and had no idea how to handle it. It was like watching us against Burnley a few years back.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 12:14:47 PM
This is why we love football. Itís the most unpredictable game. Had that one goal, that was not offside, not been disallowed, I think Argentina would have won comfortably. However, KSA deserved the win with their overall play, particularly in the second half. Out swinging corners are a waste of time by the way.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 22, 2022, 12:14:50 PM
Germany v S Korea?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
Cameroon beating Argentina is up there as well. As is Italy managing to lose twice to Korea. And USA beating England.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 12:16:21 PM
As World Cup shocks go, can't remember any bigger than this one.

Senegal vs France was bigger at the time, I'd say.

Iíll raise you Cameroon beating world champions Argentina in the opening game at Italy 1990
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: manic-road on November 22, 2022, 12:18:50 PM
Just turned on the TV and seen the score, brilliant surprise to see.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 12:21:08 PM
USA 1 England 0 still the biggest shock ever, IMO. England were favourites for the World Cup and had the likes of Matthews and Finney in the squad. The Americans were a bunch of semi-pros who were so lacking belief that they spent the night before the game on the piss as they going to get thrashed anyway so might as well.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 22, 2022, 12:22:33 PM
Argentina have form in somehow being less than the sum of their parts.
Why play Messi as a centre forward?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 12:24:53 PM
As World Cup shocks go, can't remember any bigger than this one.

Senegal vs France was bigger at the time, I'd say.

Iíll raise you Cameroon beating world champions Argentina in the opening game at Italy 1990

I was 0 at the time, so don't remember that one 😉
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 12:28:38 PM
Germany v S Korea?

Germany beat South Korea. It was Spain and Italy who lost to them in 2002.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 12:30:00 PM
Germany v S Korea?

Germany beat South Korea. It was Spain and Italy who lost to them in 2002.

They lost 2-0 to them in 2018. Both goals in added time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 12:40:50 PM
Germany v S Korea?

Germany beat South Korea. It was Spain and Italy who lost to them in 2002.

They lost 2-0 to them in 2018. Both goals in added time.

Oh yes, I'd completely forgotten that one.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on November 22, 2022, 12:41:50 PM
Boo! It's going to be 2002 all over again. Argentina were probably the best in the world back then too and they totally messed it up. The semi finalists from 2002, though, were there ever a worse bunch than those? Germany were Germany in name only, that, team was shite, and Brazil should have been knocked out by England; as for Turkey and South Korea...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 12:42:09 PM
I don't think that was too much of a shock as they'd already fucked it up earlier in the group IIRC.

North Korea vs Italy must be up there, though.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 22, 2022, 12:45:47 PM
As World Cup shocks go, can't remember any bigger than this one.

Senegal vs France was bigger at the time, I'd say.

Iíll raise you Cameroon beating world champions Argentina in the opening game at Italy 1990

I was 0 at the time, so don't remember that one 😉

Oh, one of those johnny-come-lately, Nick Hornsby inspired 'footy' types then.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 22, 2022, 12:46:55 PM
Germany would have gone through if they had won that match
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 22, 2022, 12:47:34 PM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley

When we were about ten, a mate got lost on a school trip to one of those games.
A teacher and my mother were in charge his part of the group, so a few of us had to go down from the stand, walk around the track and hang around in the tunnel while they tracked him down.
The only one of those games I have any recollection of is the one around 1980 when Paul Rideout scored 4 for England and Scotland still won 5-4.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 12:52:56 PM
As World Cup shocks go, can't remember any bigger than this one.

Senegal vs France was bigger at the time, I'd say.

Iíll raise you Cameroon beating world champions Argentina in the opening game at Italy 1990

I was 0 at the time, so don't remember that one 😉

Oh, one of those johnny-come-lately, Nick Hornsby inspired 'footy' types then.

Yep, I'm just ordering my Saudi Arabia shirt now. Strangely, there doesn't appear to be a hole for the head...
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 01:00:29 PM
Biggest World Cup shocks according to analysis by Nielsen Gracenote

Result   Year   Chance of victory for winning team

Saudi Arabia 2-1 Argentina   2022   8.7%
USA 1-0 England   1950   9.5%
Switzerland 1-0 Spain   2010   10.3%
Algeria 2-1 West Germany   1982   13.2%
Ghana 2-0 Czech Republic   2006   13.9%
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 01:02:39 PM
weird reaction to a first minute tackle by the Tunisia player.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 01:02:49 PM
Well Mr Gracenote is talking pish. The Saudis are all professional footballers. The Americans that beat England weren't. And Switzerland vs Spain more of a shock than North Korea vs Italy? Yeah, right.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 01:05:32 PM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley

When we were about ten, a mate got lost on a school trip to one of those games.
A teacher and my mother were in charge his part of the group, so a few of us had to go down from the stand, walk around the track and hang around in the tunnel while they tracked him down.
The only one of those games I have any recollection of is the one around 1980 when Paul Rideout scored 4 for England and Scotland still won 5-4.

I know that Paul Rideout played in one of the games I went to, so possibly the same match
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 01:12:02 PM
Who's the radio commentator with Pat Nevin ?

I can't figure out where her accent is from. ..... maybe SA ?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 22, 2022, 01:17:51 PM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley

When we were about ten, a mate got lost on a school trip to one of those games.
A teacher and my mother were in charge his part of the group, so a few of us had to go down from the stand, walk around the track and hang around in the tunnel while they tracked him down.
The only one of those games I have any recollection of is the one around 1980 when Paul Rideout scored 4 for England and Scotland still won 5-4.

I know that Paul Rideout played in one of the games I went to, so possibly the same match

England v Scotland. Rideout scored from about 40 yards - 1980? The ladsí team I played for went on a coach to Wembley for that game
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 22, 2022, 01:19:47 PM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley

When we were about ten, a mate got lost on a school trip to one of those games.
A teacher and my mother were in charge his part of the group, so a few of us had to go down from the stand, walk around the track and hang around in the tunnel while they tracked him down.
The only one of those games I have any recollection of is the one around 1980 when Paul Rideout scored 4 for England and Scotland still won 5-4.

I know that Paul Rideout played in one of the games I went to, so possibly the same match

Paul Rideout now thereís a name from the distant past
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 01:23:37 PM
Tunisia score... offside.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 01:28:19 PM
Quote
On Tuesday, the media director of the German football federation (DFB), Steffen Simon, said the seven nations were faced with "extreme blackmail", leading them to drop their OneLove armband plans.

He told German Deutschlandfunk radio: "The tournament director went to the English team and talked about multiple rule violations and threatened massive sporting sanctions without specifying what these would be."

Simon said the other six teams then decided to "show solidarity" with England.

So, they decided to show solidarity with England who were being "blackmailed" into not wearing the armband. That seems a weird take from that. Surely showing solidarity with England was all seven countries to stand firm and not give in to blackmail and threats.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 01:43:39 PM
Great save by Schmeichel.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: KRS on November 22, 2022, 01:51:09 PM
Hartson must be the worst co-commentator Iíve ever had to suffer listening toÖno one will take the title off Lawrenson mind.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 01:54:57 PM
Well Mr Gracenote is talking pish. The Saudis are all professional footballers. The Americans that beat England weren't. And Switzerland vs Spain more of a shock than North Korea vs Italy? Yeah, right.

I agree with CDBF.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 22, 2022, 01:59:12 PM
Algeria beating West Germany in Ď82 for me. And the subsequent conspiracy that led to Algeria being eliminated
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 22, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Spain v Northern Ireland in 1982 was a bit surprising.  0-1.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 02:08:18 PM
Least surprising result........ West Germany 1, Austria 0
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 02:08:42 PM
One of the biggest shocks was North Korea in 1966 but not the South Korea v Italy in 2002 as they just kept chalking off the legimate goals that Italy scored in that particular match.
Denmark are very Gerrardesque with their slow build up play. This match could go either way but a Tunisia win wouldnít surprise me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:09:52 PM
Very disappointed in Denmark so far. Not just because I've got a tenner on them to win it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: eamonn on November 22, 2022, 02:10:23 PM
Spain v Northern Ireland in 1982 was a bit surprising.  0-1.

Which coined the name for a Norn Irish fanzine "Arconada Armstrong".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: saint13 on November 22, 2022, 02:21:39 PM
Very disappointed in Denmark so far. Not just because I've got a tenner on them to win it.
I have backed them too.

They are so dull. It is like watching Spurs without Kane & Son!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:23:40 PM
Dolberg is a fanny.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
In the build up loads of people seemed to see Denmark as real contenders and I couldn't see why, this game has gone almost exactly as I'd have expected, denmark and neat and tidy but with no cutting edge and Tunisia are all action and very physical but lacking the quality to be a real threat.

Cornelius coming on might change things though, he's not great but he gives them a focal point which might change the game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:30:37 PM
Has to score there. Think he chickened out of hurting himself against the post.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 02:31:00 PM
Denmark, so far, are probably the most boring team in this tournament, given the players they have. They look quite content to settle for a point.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 22, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
They make up this hand ball rule as they go along.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:39:51 PM
Nose alert.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 02:40:40 PM
I wonder if this game is available across Africa on the World Service  ::)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:43:51 PM
Why have Denmark picked a left wing back who appears to have no left foot?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:51:04 PM
Cash starts for Poland. Bednarek on the bench.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 02:51:59 PM
Why have Denmark picked a left wing back who appears to have no left foot?

 I assume you mean Maehle and on that basis it's because he's very dangerous (for them) cutting inside and shooting from the edge of the box, he's been one of their best players for the last 18months.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:53:48 PM
Denmark could have a penalty here.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:55:13 PM
Why have Denmark picked a left wing back who appears to have no left foot?

 I assume you mean Maehle and on that basis it's because he's very dangerous (for them) cutting inside and shooting from the edge of the box, he's been one of their best players for the last 18months.

Being able to cut in is fine. Not being able to go outside at all isn't. They'd probably have had a decent chance of scoring if he'd crossed left footed rather than fucked around getting it back onto his right. Plays in Serie A and can only use one foot. It's a fucking pub league.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:55:31 PM
Denmark could have a penalty here.

They don't.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:56:49 PM
And again, nice skill to get into a crossing position... refuses to use his left foot. Chance wasted.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 02:57:24 PM
Why have Denmark picked a left wing back who appears to have no left foot?

 I assume you mean Maehle and on that basis it's because he's very dangerous (for them) cutting inside and shooting from the edge of the box, he's been one of their best players for the last 18months.

Being able to cut in is fine. Not being able to go outside at all isn't. They'd probably have had a decent chance of scoring if he'd crossed left footed rather than fucked around getting it back onto his right. Plays in Serie A and can only use one foot. It's a fucking pub league.

I agree but he's been very effective for them so it's a problem that hasn't needed solving, until now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 02:59:17 PM
Does he normally play left back? I can see how he could do a job at right back. Not being able to use your left at all is pretty bad for a left wing back.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2022, 03:03:35 PM
Does he normally play left back? I can see how he could do a job at right back. Not being able to use your left at all is pretty bad for a left wing back.

For Denmark, yes, no idea at club level.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: darren woolley on November 22, 2022, 03:09:56 PM
Argentina one of the favourites being beat it's right up there with World Cup shocks Denmark v Tunisia not the best game looking forward to Mexico v Poland to see Cash and Bednarek.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: saint13 on November 22, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Looking at Denmark's limited optons is a contrast to the range of attacking options Souhtgate has to choose from. Consider the subs we bought on yesterday: Grealish, Rashford, Foden & Wilson with Maddison in reserve, versus a big lump who flopped at Cardiff & Crystal Palace.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 22, 2022, 03:19:28 PM
Crowd sounds like an old England schoolboys international at Wembley

When we were about ten, a mate got lost on a school trip to one of those games.
A teacher and my mother were in charge his part of the group, so a few of us had to go down from the stand, walk around the track and hang around in the tunnel while they tracked him down.
The only one of those games I have any recollection of is the one around 1980 when Paul Rideout scored 4 for England and Scotland still won 5-4.

I know that Paul Rideout played in one of the games I went to, so possibly the same match

I went to that one too!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 22, 2022, 03:57:34 PM
Love the Polish Anthem. So used to hearing it at Speedway
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
Don't mind who wins, Poland for Cash and Bednarek, Mexico as I have a soft spot for them as I want them to make it to match 5 of the World Cup. They must be a contender for most underperforming nation.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 22, 2022, 04:22:35 PM
Who remembers when Mexico wore a Leviís kit at the Ď78 World Cup.

https://twitter.com/thecolorfulkit/status/735936977556639744?s=46&t=PiqXHb8VmgE7Ieb5THHNzg
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 22, 2022, 04:30:05 PM
My main memory of Mexico at the 1978 World Cup is this.

https://images.app.goo.gl/nQFPfG8XmQ23QC798
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 04:31:56 PM
While itís impossible to not consider all of the other very valid talking points at this WC, but so far, early on itís provided some decent action and good football stories.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 04:34:16 PM
My main memory of Mexico at the 1978 World Cup is this.

https://images.app.goo.gl/nQFPfG8XmQ23QC798

Carlos's dad?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 04:34:17 PM
The commentator is calling them 'Poorland' and it's getting on my tits.

Although they have been poor, to be fair.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 04:35:53 PM
My main memory of Mexico at the 1978 World Cup is this.

https://images.app.goo.gl/nQFPfG8XmQ23QC798

I didn't know Carlos's dad played for Mexico.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 04:36:40 PM
Who remembers when Mexico wore a Leviís kit at the Ď78 World Cup.

https://twitter.com/thecolorfulkit/status/735936977556639744?s=46&t=PiqXHb8VmgE7Ieb5THHNzg

Nice.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 04:47:08 PM
The Saudi manager was once sacked by Cambridge United. Means nothing but just the kind of fun fact I always enjoy, so someone else might as well.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on November 22, 2022, 04:54:16 PM
Main World Cup memory is 2 foot tall Campos playing in goal in the 90s
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 22, 2022, 04:58:24 PM
The Saudi manager was once sacked by Cambridge United. Means nothing but just the kind of fun fact I always enjoy, so someone else might as well.

Treading on CD's copyright doing World Cup football facts.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 04:59:50 PM
His World Cup fact actually relates to the World Cup, though. That's against the rules.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 05:04:07 PM
Nose alert.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 05:13:47 PM
Poland penalty given by VAR.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 05:13:56 PM
Poland penalty
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on November 22, 2022, 05:14:33 PM
Joke
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 05:15:55 PM
Lewandowski pen saved.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 22, 2022, 05:16:03 PM
Justice.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 22, 2022, 05:18:23 PM
I'm listening on the radio. It is very, very loud.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Small Rodent on November 22, 2022, 05:20:03 PM
Definitely a penalty.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 22, 2022, 05:25:32 PM
My memory of Ď78.

https://youtu.be/2c__vAtx_-o
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 05:30:38 PM
Definitely a penalty.

Yeah, I thought so too. So far, I think the officiating has been very good which may be the biggest World Cup shock of all.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 05:31:45 PM
Jimenez just come on, hasn't played since early September.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 05:42:16 PM
ĎA Vegaí looked spritely up front for Mexico, despite having been dead for a few years
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 05:58:06 PM
Well done, Matty Cash. A clean sheet.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 22, 2022, 05:59:28 PM
The fucking time zone is an absolute bastard for me. I haven't seen a single game because of work/liking sleep. Looks like I haven't missed much this morning though.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 22, 2022, 06:09:49 PM
Anyway for what itís worth I still think Argentina will win it That will be the kick up the arse they needed to take it more seriously And dig in Instead of fannying about

their odds have drifted A bit so Iím doubling down tomorrow and going to shove more money on them
so thatíll be my Christmas paid for and sorted


Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 06:16:19 PM
Allez les Bleus !

 Us
(https://i.ibb.co/GdnzLWJ/Fi-L8l-MXk-Aw-r85.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgb8GKP)
Them

(https://i.ibb.co/6yLpzQ9/Fi-L-Ri-RXw-AEp-S4-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p15scqV)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 06:17:46 PM
Anyway for what itís worth I still think Argentina will win it That will be the kick up the arse they needed to take it more seriously And dig in Instead of fannying about

their odds have drifted A bit so Iím doubling down tomorrow and going to shove more money on them
so thatíll be my Christmas paid for and sorted


You'll need the money to pay for a replacement sou'wester!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 06:22:26 PM
Allez les Bleus !

Looking for France to play well despite a few key injuries as they'll likely be our quarter-final insurance.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 06:23:52 PM
Would be very pleasing if Australia get a result.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 06:25:01 PM
Would be very pleasing if Australia get a result.
Oh, they will get a result.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 06:44:54 PM
Australia are going to regret leaving Jedinak at home.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 06:45:44 PM
The World Champions vs a bunch of lads not good enough to get in the Scotland squad. It's too close to call.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 06:46:03 PM
France are going to regret leaving Digne in Birmingham.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 06:48:04 PM
The World Champions vs a bunch of lads not good enough to get in the Scotland squad. It's too close to call.

None of that French side would get in the Villa team. Mbappe could go on the bench though as cover for Bailey. Rest are Man Utd standard at best.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 22, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
Anyway for what itís worth I still think Argentina will win it That will be the kick up the arse they needed to take it more seriously And dig in Instead of fannying about

their odds have drifted A bit so Iím doubling down tomorrow and going to shove more money on them
so thatíll be my Christmas paid for and sorted




I agree, was thinking exactly the same thing this afternoon.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 22, 2022, 06:50:29 PM
Is Lloris still the best keeper France can muster up?

Mind you, having said that, you could ask the same about England and Pickford.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 06:51:41 PM
There aren't that many great goalkeepers and centre-forwards about at the moment. 97% of footballers are now vaguely lightweight midfielders.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 06:55:58 PM
Kamara even at 50% match fitness level will make the French team better. But I guess they will stroll onto the pitch like they are world champions or something!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 06:55:58 PM
Is Lloris still the best keeper France can muster up?

Mind you, having said that, you could ask the same about England and Pickford.

Mike Maignan at AC Milan is excellent. He'll probably be first choice within the year.

But it's made a bit harder by Lloris also being captain, so it's phasing out both your captain and goalkeeper of the last decade all at the same time.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 06:58:48 PM
Veretout sur la bench.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:05:47 PM
I like the bleu, blanc, rouge strip. However, Lloris seems to be wearing his jim-jams.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:07:22 PM
Is Lloris still the best keeper France can muster up?

Mind you, having said that, you could ask the same about England and Pickford.

Mike Maignan at AC Milan is excellent. He'll probably be first choice within the year.
Thisô️
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:07:51 PM
I'd put money on Zidane being manager too.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:08:26 PM
How come France and Australia don't have to play in the boring one colour strips? I approve, anyway. France definitely winning kit of the tournament, so far.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:09:26 PM
Sacre bleu!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:09:27 PM
0-1.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 07:09:32 PM
blimey
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:10:31 PM
Le shambles Les gars!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 07:10:47 PM
Haha
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 07:11:21 PM
I'd put money on Zidane being manager too.

It does feel that one of England, France and Belgium are going to shit the bed in thus tournament, and move on a load of the older guard and their manager.

France seem like a good bet for that.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:11:36 PM
Very rare for me to cheer Aussie sporting success but Mon the McSocceroos.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 07:12:41 PM
What a goal
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:13:28 PM
Left back off injured. Should have picked Digne.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 07:13:35 PM
How come France and Australia don't have to play in the boring one colour strips? I approve, anyway. France definitely winning kit of the tournament, so far.

Argentina didn't either. I like their Adidas kit, has a bit of an old school feel about it and no plain panels for the numbers.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:14:25 PM
What a goal
Took France's defence apart in 3 kicks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 07:14:58 PM
Seems too dark bleu to me
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:16:30 PM
Seems too dark bleu to me

They've changed the flag to a darker blue since the last World Cup so that's probably why.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/15/sacre-bleu-french-flag-changes-colour-but-no-one-notices

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 22, 2022, 07:17:36 PM
Seems too dark bleu to me

They've changed the flag to a darker blue since the last World Cup so that's probably why.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/15/sacre-bleu-french-flag-changes-colour-but-no-one-notices
Well, baissez moi
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 07:18:39 PM
Seems too dark bleu to me

Yes, the blue's way too dark for me too but I grew up watching Platini's France in tournaments.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 07:19:33 PM
Well this is going swimmingly so far.

A goal down to a bunch of barbecue salesmen, and Hernandez out for the tournament.

Fuck's sake.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:26:06 PM
Seems too dark bleu to me

They've changed the flag to a darker blue since the last World Cup so that's probably why.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/15/sacre-bleu-french-flag-changes-colour-but-no-one-notices
Well, baissez moi
No, they had a dark blue one in Russia. They also played a blue like Citeh's about a decade ago.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 07:26:57 PM
1-1
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:26:59 PM
Buuuuuuuuuuuut !
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 07:27:05 PM
Well this is going swimmingly so far.

A goal down to a bunch of barbecue salesmen, and Hernandez out for the tournament.

Fuck's sake.

Then again, at least they get to replace him with a better Hernandez.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 07:27:19 PM
Nice goal 1-1
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 22, 2022, 07:28:02 PM
Booooooooooooo!!!

See what i did there?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:28:15 PM
I don't like his hair, but at least it's not as bad as Bale's.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 07:28:17 PM
That's more like it!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:28:25 PM
Well, baissez moi
How low?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:28:33 PM
Booooooooooooo!!!

See what i did there?

Depressingly, I was already thinking that when they scored.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 07:28:38 PM
Allez les bleurs
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:29:25 PM
That's more like it!
Allons enfants de la Patrie ! 🎶
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 22, 2022, 07:29:47 PM
Can only just hear the commentary which is good as Danny Murphy makes me physically sick.
I feel the Aussies are going to get le Ammering
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 22, 2022, 07:31:05 PM
Good open game this one
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:31:26 PM
Are they playing at the Emirates?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:32:13 PM
Buuuuuuuuuuuut !
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:32:21 PM
Giroud scores and they're not even playing Villa.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:33:04 PM
Was that a 'One Love' gesture from Giroud? Good lad!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 07:33:31 PM
Normal service has been resumed.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 07:33:54 PM
Mbappeís flick was a bit good
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Scovilla on November 22, 2022, 07:34:02 PM
As we say in French" The church is back in the middle of the village".
Well done Giroud.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 07:34:29 PM
Comically bad from the Aussies
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 07:34:40 PM
As we say in French" The church is back in the middle of the village".
Well done Giroud.

Hang on a minute... that's not French!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:35:12 PM
That injury was the best thing that could have happened for France, it turns out.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 07:35:20 PM
Giroud still banging in the goals. What a player!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Scovilla on November 22, 2022, 07:40:01 PM
As we say in French" The church is back in the middle of the village".
Well done Giroud.
Well it is ..

Hang on a minute... that's not French!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
As we say in French" The church is back in the middle of the village".
Well done Giroud.
"It's 1940 all over again."
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:43:48 PM
It's like watching the World Champions playing Norwich.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:46:00 PM
Great move, shite finish.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: UK Redsox on November 22, 2022, 07:46:16 PM
Mbappe a bit shit there
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Mbappe FFS! Tonev would have been proud of that.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:47:35 PM
Nearly two-two. He has taken the rubbish haircut from the French scorer and added a shite moustache.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 07:47:44 PM
Should be three. I predicted at least five before it started.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 07:49:58 PM
To steal cd's World Cup facts podium for a moment...

"Olivier Giroud scores from his first shot on target in a World Cup since 2014, despite playing 546 minutes in a World Cup-winning campaign in the meantime"

(h/t Richard Jolly)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:52:16 PM
That was decent fun.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 07:53:29 PM
Yeah, enjoyed that.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 22, 2022, 07:54:01 PM
Nearly two-two. He has taken the rubbish haircut from the French scorer and added a shite moustache.

It's the law that Australians must have a shite moustache, isn't it? I can't think of any other reason for David Warner's.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 07:54:47 PM
How did Mbappe miss that one chance?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:56:27 PM
Go on then Dave, you asked for it.

World Cup FACT:

Australian toilets do flush the other way, but it isn't, as The Simpsons would have you believe, due to the Coriolis Effect, which is significant for hurricanes... but not lavatories. It's just because the water jets tend to face in the opposite direction to ours.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 07:57:19 PM
How did Mbappe miss that one chance?

It's why he'd never be more than back up for Bailey if we signed him.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 07:58:23 PM
How did Mbappe miss that one chance?

It's why he'd never be more than back up for Bailey if we signed him.

Only until Keinan is back.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: john e on November 22, 2022, 08:03:59 PM
There aren't that many great goalkeepers and centre-forwards about at the moment. 97% of footballers are now vaguely lightweight midfielders.

You can Add centre halfís to that list
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 08:07:05 PM
It's like watching the World Champions playing Norwich.

For the first 20 minutes Norwich were taking the piss. After that france started playing like Brazil, Mbappe like the young, real Ronaldo. Griezmann is the French Bruno Fernandes, a real punchable rat face. Demebele is great to watch even if his control isn't perfect his speed is amazing. Never really rated Olivier Giroud as a top player but he does have an exceptional habit of being in the right place at the right time for a tap in. It's one hell of a talented, attacking group to have in one team.

Not sure Digne would have fitted in to this French team, they look far too mobile when in control.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:12:05 PM
For those who haven't seen France's away kit, it is quite a picture: Arc de Triomphe, revolutionary scenes...

(https://i.ibb.co/5KNg2Kw/France-Away-2022-Worldcup-Football-Jerse-scaled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Sfh4JfG)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:13:04 PM
Giroud almost scored a goal of the tournament there Mark!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 08:13:27 PM
Go on then Dave, you asked for it.

World Cup FACT:

Australian toilets do flush the other way, but it isn't, as The Simpsons would have you believe, due to the Coriolis Effect, which is significant for hurricanes... but not lavatories. It's just because the water jets tend to face in the opposite direction to ours.
Why were they allowed to do that? Was it because first toilets sent to Australia were rejects from Armitage Shanks factory?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:13:36 PM
Not content with dressing like Scotland, they're even trying McGinn-style bicycle kicks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:14:06 PM
Go on then Dave, you asked for it.

World Cup FACT:

Australian toilets do flush the other way, but it isn't, as The Simpsons would have you believe, due to the Coriolis Effect, which is significant for hurricanes... but not lavatories. It's just because the water jets tend to face in the opposite direction to ours.
Why were they allowed to do that? Was it because first toilets sent to Australia were rejects from Armitage Shanks factory?

It was probably part of their sentence.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:14:35 PM
For those who haven't seen France's away kit, it is quite a picture: Arc de Triomphe, revolutionary scenes...

(https://i.ibb.co/5KNg2Kw/France-Away-2022-Worldcup-Football-Jerse-scaled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Sfh4JfG)

That's ace.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 08:14:48 PM
It was a scuffer that was miles wide.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:16:14 PM
It was a scuffer that was miles wide.

Yeah, I said they tried the McGinn-style bicycle kick, I didn't say they executed it properly.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 08:16:21 PM
Deschamps looks spitting image of Albert Steptoe.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:16:26 PM
For those who haven't seen France's away kit, it is quite a picture: Arc de Triomphe, revolutionary scenes...

(https://i.ibb.co/5KNg2Kw/France-Away-2022-Worldcup-Football-Jerse-scaled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Sfh4JfG)

That's ace.
I want both but have too much spare midriff to get away with it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 08:17:28 PM
It was a scuffer that was miles wide.
Yes. Jon Pearce did go a bit overboard.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 08:20:14 PM
Giroud almost scored a goal of the tournament there Mark!

Tonev would be proud. ;)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 08:23:04 PM
Why are France playing keep ball?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:23:39 PM
Mbappe. Wank.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
Why are France playing keep ball?

I'd imagine to frustrate the Aussies who to their credit have shown France no respect.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hampshire Villa on November 22, 2022, 08:26:49 PM
Glad we have defensive line break stats. Why donít the running backs move the ball for a second down. Will the goal guard get sacked. WTF are defensive Line breaks. I see we also got turnover stats popping up now and then!

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 08:28:35 PM
Talking about shirts, looks a though Australian shirts were made by players mums.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 08:29:07 PM
Australia are utter bobbins, and yet after more than an hour France have managed 2 shots on target.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:30:12 PM
I'd imagine to frustrate the Aussies who to their credit have shown France no respect.
Gooooooooooool!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:30:15 PM
Considering that this is clearly the weakest Australia squad in decades, they've done themselves proud IMO. Will still probably lose 5-1.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 22, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
3-1
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:30:26 PM
And there's the third. Mbappe at last.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 22, 2022, 08:30:30 PM
Glad we have defensive line break stats. Why donít the running backs move the ball for a second down. Will the goal guard get sacked. WTF are defensive Line breaks. I see we also got turnover stats popping up now and then!



Amazon did a win predictor thing during our defeat at Fulham. What a load of bollocks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 08:30:40 PM
Game set and match
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:31:21 PM
Glad we have defensive line break stats. Why donít the running backs move the ball for a second down. Will the goal guard get sacked. WTF are defensive Line breaks. I see we also got turnover stats popping up now and then!



Amazon did a win predictor thing during our defeat at Fulham. What a load of bollocks.

I'm assuming it was 0%?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: darren woolley on November 22, 2022, 08:31:24 PM
Great clearance then Mbappe scores.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 08:31:32 PM
The main man does it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:31:32 PM
Australia are utter bobbins, and yet after more than an hour France have managed 2 shots on target.
Only needed another one.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 08:32:03 PM
Boom! Well deserved.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 08:32:04 PM
Mbappe. Wank.

Harsh.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:33:40 PM
Mbappe. Wank.

Harsh.
Now he's off the mark he's ace. And all Lisbon will be abuzz with talk of him and Les Bleus.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 08:33:48 PM
How bad must Peru be to have been unable to beat this lot?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 22, 2022, 08:33:51 PM
Glad we have defensive line break stats. Why donít the running backs move the ball for a second down. Will the goal guard get sacked. WTF are defensive Line breaks. I see we also got turnover stats popping up now and then!



Amazon did a win predictor thing during our defeat at Fulham. What a load of bollocks.

I'm assuming it was 0%?

It was 2-0 down with 10 men so it was pretty low. Of course under Gerrard it was only about 10% at kick off anyway.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:34:04 PM
Girooooooooud!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:34:29 PM
May as well get another one if it puts him ahead of that bellend Henry.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 08:34:43 PM
France look very good indeed
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 08:34:48 PM
Love to see Aussies humiliated at any sport.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: darren woolley on November 22, 2022, 08:36:24 PM
Good header by Giroud.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 08:36:34 PM
Re-boom! What a run and cross.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
When Mbappe was celebrating his goal,  the camera cut to the French fans and I saw two "Mbappe give me your shirt" banners in French. FFS!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:38:51 PM
I hate the culture of fans trying to make it all about them. I blame the Portsmouth twat with the bell.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 08:39:27 PM
Mbappe. Wank.

Harsh.
Now he's off the mark he's ace. And all Lisbon will be abuzz with talk of him and Les Bleus.

Nah! Nobody gives a shit about them since Mourinho left Stamford Bridge.

My man Mbappe is carrying the France team. I'd have buried that header, talk about on a plate, even that George Michael look-a-like managed to get his head on it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:40:01 PM
Is Coman sporting a mullet or a Mohican?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 22, 2022, 08:41:39 PM
I know Mbappe is superb but he doesnít half fanny around a lot also with those flicks. Most of which donít work.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 22, 2022, 08:42:31 PM
Why keep Mbappe on?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:45:56 PM
Why keep Mbappe on?
It's not as if France are having to expend much energy against PaÁos de Ferreira here.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 08:49:06 PM
Can't be many players that play in a world cup having never started a senior game at club level.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 08:49:43 PM
Why keep Mbappe on?
It's not as if France are having to expend much energy against PaÁos de Ferreira here.

Tomorrow has been declared a national holiday in Saudi Arabia and France to celebrate their respective victories today.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Lucky Eddie on November 22, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
Didier Deschamps sure looks like that bloke from inglorious basterds
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 08:55:47 PM
Why keep Mbappe on?
It's not as if France are having to expend much energy against PaÁos de Ferreira here.

Tomorrow has been declared a national holiday in Saudi Arabia and France to celebrate their respective victories today.
I hope France get Engerland in the quarters, Portugal in the semis and Brazil in the Final. A perfect route to our third star.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 22, 2022, 08:57:12 PM
Christoph Waltz. Yes, Iíve said the same for some time too. Griesman is looking back to his best too.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 08:59:06 PM
Australia with the David Narey goal at the start. All downhill since.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 09:02:01 PM
Would have been interesting if that header had gone in and they really had something to defend second half. They've offered virtually nothing second half. Fair play to them though, it's a pretty shit squad but they still gave a decent account of themselves.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 09:04:59 PM
Would have been interesting if that header had gone in and they really had something to defend second half. They've offered virtually nothing second half. Fair play to them though, it's a pretty shit squad but they still gave a decent account of themselves.
Hahaha!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 09:05:52 PM
Would have been interesting if that header had gone in and they really had something to defend second half. They've offered virtually nothing second half. Fair play to them though, it's a pretty shit squad but they still gave a decent account of themselves.
Hahaha!

What?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 22, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
France are going to win this thing again. There's no stopping that attack.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2022, 09:08:07 PM
Why keep Mbappe on?
It's not as if France are having to expend much energy against PaÁos de Ferreira here.

Tomorrow has been declared a national holiday in Saudi Arabia and France to celebrate their respective victories today.
I hope France get Engerland in the quarters, Portugal in the semis and Brazil in the Final. A perfect route to our third star.

Good to see French modesty is still alive and kicking, you'll need to qualify from your group first. Not every game will be against some cricket playing country, FIFA ranked 107 no-hopers. Oh and my predictions have France knocked out in the quarters. Either way you reach the semi.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 09:08:16 PM
Deschamps looks spitting image of Albert Steptoe.

Before he had his teeth done he really did:
(https://i.ibb.co/wSQzRZK/didier-deschamps-est-fait-refaire-les-dents.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2vMky0j)


"Teeth like chopped spring onions" to quote someone on Twitter.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 09:16:22 PM
I hope France get Engerland in the quarters, Portugal in the semis and Brazil in the Final. A perfect route to our third star.

Isn't Ingurland in the quarters, Brasil (or Belgium) in the semis and Spain (or Portugal) in the Final more likely? Want Argentina to win it but think it will be Brasil, with Spain as dark horses.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 09:20:02 PM
they still gave a decent account of themselves.
Hahaha!

What?
Made me laugh. Thanks!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2022, 09:20:03 PM
Want Argentina to win it but think it will be Brasil, with Spain as dark horses.

Fifth favourites Spain are hardly a dark horse.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 09:21:43 PM
I hope France get Engerland in the quarters, Portugal in the semis and Brazil in the Final. A perfect route to our third star.

Isn't Ingurland in the quarters, Brasil (or Belgium) in the semis and Spain (or Portugal) in the Final more likely? Want Argentina to win it but think it will be Brasil, with Spain as dark horses.
Fuck knows. I'm just talking shite on the internet. :-)

Edit.  What I posted is possible.as it stands.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 09:25:49 PM

Made me laugh. Thanks!

Sadly it wasn't as funny as "almost scored a goal of the tournament".
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 09:31:09 PM
Harry Kane having ankle scan so may miss America and possibly more.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 09:31:16 PM

Made me laugh. Thanks!

Sadly it wasn't as funny as "almost scored a goal of the tournament".
You are easily pleased.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2022, 09:32:43 PM

Made me laugh. Thanks!

Sadly it wasn't as funny as "almost scored a goal of the tournament".
You.are easily pleased.

Oooops.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 09:40:32 PM
Well, if Giroud's overhead effort had gone in, it would have been a cracker in my view. I was disappointed with Australia as I thought they would have been more physical trying to rattle the French.

Hence easily pleased.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 09:42:31 PM
Want Argentina to win it but think it will be Brasil, with Spain as dark horses.

Fifth favourites Spain are hardly a dark horse.

I think they are, there's seems to have been very little pre-tournament chat about them this time, plus only 2.8% of people on here think they'll win it.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 09:43:14 PM
They've had properly decent players in recent years. Cahill, Viduka, Kewell, Jedinak and others. The current squad is made up of Scottish and Aussie League players, they're miles off what they have been. They did fairly well not to be embarrassed IMO.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dave shelley on November 22, 2022, 09:43:59 PM
Harry Kane having ankle scan so may miss America and possibly more.

Send him to Kirsten Ramsey in the Repair Shop, she's pretty good at fixing glass.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 22, 2022, 10:19:31 PM
Harry Kane having ankle scan so may miss America and possibly more.

He's not a bad looking lad but I think that might be beyond him
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 22, 2022, 10:23:48 PM
Harry Kane having ankle scan so may miss America and possibly more.

He's not a bad looking lad but I think that might be beyond him

;D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2022, 10:35:47 PM
I am surprised by France. I thought after Pogba, Ben Zema, Kante and Nkunku were cropped they would struggle but where the fuck they keep bringing these players that scares the crap out of me?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
Most footy folk here in Melbourne have been dead set against Graham Arnold as national team coach. First because he's seen as New South Wales bias and second because he's shit.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 22, 2022, 10:57:01 PM
They've had properly decent players in recent years. Cahill, Viduka, Kewell, Jedinak and others. The current squad is made up of Scottish and Aussie League players, they're miles off what they have been. They did fairly well not to be embarrassed IMO.
I watch a fair bit of the AíLeague & a lot of their players are quite technically gifted. Clearly not as talented as the players you mentioned, but I would say that talent wise, the AíLeague is probably stronger than the Scottish league underneath the Old Firm.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 22, 2022, 11:02:30 PM
I am surprised by France. I thought after Pogba, Ben Zema, Kante and Nkunku were cropped they would struggle but where the fuck they keep bringing these players that scares the crap out of me?
I'd say it is because France has one of the best youth detection, development and academy systems in the world. And football is not as tainted by mega-billions as it is elsewhere.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 22, 2022, 11:07:40 PM
Messi scores again but offside. He was miles from the nearest defender, he didn't need to go early.
just seen it on BBC news, another player plays him onside by the look of it
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SaddVillan on November 22, 2022, 11:19:28 PM
Got home late, switched on France v Australia.

Jonathan Pearce and Danny Murphy on commentary.

Switched off.

The unintelligible and the unintelligent.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2022, 11:24:15 PM
They've had properly decent players in recent years. Cahill, Viduka, Kewell, Jedinak and others. The current squad is made up of Scottish and Aussie League players, they're miles off what they have been. They did fairly well not to be embarrassed IMO.
I watch a fair bit of the AíLeague & a lot of their players are quite technically gifted. Clearly not as talented as the players you mentioned, but I would say that talent wise, the AíLeague is probably stronger than the Scottish league underneath the Old Firm.

I don't know about that. Just going on Jason Cummings' goalscoring record he is slightly more prolific in A-League than he was last season in the Scottish second tier.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2022, 11:25:13 PM
I am surprised by France. I thought after Pogba, Ben Zema, Kante and Nkunku were cropped they would struggle but where the fuck they keep bringing these players that scares the crap out of me?
I'd say it is because France has one of the best youth detection, development and academy systems in the world. And football is not as tainted by mega-billions as it is elsewhere.
And then generally they send them to England, Germany, Spain and Italy to toughen then up. Villa will get value from Kamara but France are the ultimate beneficiaries.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 23, 2022, 02:36:20 AM
They've had properly decent players in recent years. Cahill, Viduka, Kewell, Jedinak and others. The current squad is made up of Scottish and Aussie League players, they're miles off what they have been. They did fairly well not to be embarrassed IMO.
I watch a fair bit of the AíLeague & a lot of their players are quite technically gifted. Clearly not as talented as the players you mentioned, but I would say that talent wise, the AíLeague is probably stronger than the Scottish league underneath the Old Firm.

I don't know about that. Just going on Jason Cummings' goalscoring record he is slightly more prolific in A-League than he was last season in the Scottish second tier.
The Scottish league is certainly more physical. Maybe itís just that, the games are a bit Ďprettierí in AustraliaÖ
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rory on November 23, 2022, 02:37:15 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Hillbilly on November 23, 2022, 06:04:29 AM
They've had properly decent players in recent years. Cahill, Viduka, Kewell, Jedinak and others. The current squad is made up of Scottish and Aussie League players, they're miles off what they have been. They did fairly well not to be embarrassed IMO.
I watch a fair bit of the AíLeague & a lot of their players are quite technically gifted. Clearly not as talented as the players you mentioned, but I would say that talent wise, the AíLeague is probably stronger than the Scottish league underneath the Old Firm.

I don't know about that. Just going on Jason Cummings' goalscoring record he is slightly more prolific in A-League than he was last season in the Scottish second tier.
The Scottish league is certainly more physical. Maybe itís just that, the games are a bit Ďprettierí in AustraliaÖ
Certainly since Kevin Muscat hung up his knuckledusters, I mean boots.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: sid1964 on November 23, 2022, 06:09:48 AM
If the Premier League follow FIFA rules for added time at the end of the game, we could be in for some late nights down Villa Park

The injury time could be 20 minutes + at the end of each half with the time wasting that we do.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: rob_bridge on November 23, 2022, 08:04:56 AM
I am surprised by France. I thought after Pogba, Ben Zema, Kante and Nkunku were cropped they would struggle but where the fuck they keep bringing these players that scares the crap out of me?
I'd say it is because France has one of the best youth detection, development and academy systems in the world. And football is not as tainted by mega-billions as it is elsewhere.

Out of those only Kante is a real miss. And he isn't as good as he once was. Fire power isn't an issue
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 08:24:41 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 23, 2022, 08:31:55 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.

So why is he there?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 09:03:10 AM
The thing I hate most about Keane and Souness as pundits is they always look so bloody unhappy to be there. There are plenty of knowledgeable people who can communicate well who would love to do that job, who on earth is making the decision to keep re-employing these miserable arses?

Does anyone really tune into a match because Keane or Souness are in the studio? No. So stop paying them megabucks and get someone who actually gives value to the audience.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Mister E on November 23, 2022, 09:19:04 AM
Keane - hobo.
Souness - psycho.

The worst commentary pairing has to be Ally McCoist and the ITV commentator who did the Netherlands game. Moronic.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 09:23:25 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.

So why is he there?

For his job I'd imagine, which doesn't preclude him or anyone else from speaking out as far as I'm concerned. I'm really sick of people trying to shout down any issue raised because the person raising it doesn't live like a monk in a hairshirt.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 23, 2022, 09:27:44 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.

So why is he there?

For his job I'd imagine, which doesn't preclude him or anyone else from speaking out as far as I'm concerned. I'm really sick of people trying to shout down any issue raised because the person raising it doesn't live like a monk in a hairshirt.

Absolutely mate.

I'm an utter ****** at times, but it won't stop me condemning the tsunami of ****** populating the world :D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Paul.S on November 23, 2022, 09:45:43 AM
The thing I hate most about Keane and Souness as pundits is they always look so bloody unhappy to be there. There are plenty of knowledgeable people who can communicate well who would love to do that job, who on earth is making the decision to keep re-employing these miserable arses?

Does anyone really tune into a match because Keane or Souness are in the studio? No. So stop paying them megabucks and get someone who actually gives value to the audience.

I donít tune into any game because of who the pundits are.

I like Keane, heís adds a bit of spice to what is sometimes mundane punditry. He says what he thinks, not what he thinks people want to hear and I love that. Iíd rather listen to him that most others that Iíve seen so far.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 09:45:52 AM
If nobody vaguely critical of the regime had turned up, Qatar would be able to claim that they'd been tolerant and decent hosts and it would be difficult to prove otherwise. Much better for people to turn up and tell the truth about what is going on.

I don't tend to watch much other than the actual football, but from what I've seen I think BBC and ITV have got the balance about right.

Compare with Fox, for instance, and they've been widely praised.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/20/fox-sports-world-cup-2022-tv-soccer-qatar-criticism
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: darren woolley on November 23, 2022, 09:55:32 AM
Morocco v Croatia
Germany v Japan
Spain v Costa Rica
Belgium v Canada

These are todays game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Clampy on November 23, 2022, 10:01:37 AM
Like a lot of people, I wasn't feeling it in the run up to it starting but I've watched a few games and enjoyed what I've seen so far. France look good going forward but I wonder if they'll get away with playing Griezmann in midfield against better opposition?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 23, 2022, 10:12:07 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.

So why is he there?

For his job I'd imagine, which doesn't preclude him or anyone else from speaking out as far as I'm concerned. I'm really sick of people trying to shout down any issue raised because the person raising it doesn't live like a monk in a hairshirt.

Absolutely mate.

I'm an utter ****** at times, but it won't stop me condemning the tsunami of ****** populating the world :D
The old adage "It takes one to know one" applies. Best way to identify culprits ;D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 23, 2022, 10:15:35 AM
Good game this. Morocco have some good players and the old man Modric still moving about very well for Croatia.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 10:22:15 AM
If football ever gets to the point where you can bring people on and off like in ice hockey, I can see teams signing a dedicated fat lad to lie behind or in the wall for free kicks.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 23, 2022, 10:22:47 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.

So why is he there?

For his job I'd imagine, which doesn't preclude him or anyone else from speaking out as far as I'm concerned. I'm really sick of people trying to shout down any issue raised because the person raising it doesn't live like a monk in a hairshirt.

I have no idea how Keane lives and I quite like him. But if you state categorically that the world cup shouldn't be held in Quatar then you shouldn't be there either earning lots of money in the process.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 23, 2022, 10:29:38 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then? 
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: darren woolley on November 23, 2022, 10:31:24 AM
I agree Morocco look good.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 10:32:14 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then?

Exactly. I agree with WV on a few things but he's got this wrong. If he had his way the only beneficiaries would be the Qatari regime. I'm sure they'd love it if only Qatar fanboys had bothered to turn up.

This is, of course, different from Gary Neville who seems to have turned up as a Qatari cheerleader and has massively let himself down.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 10:32:53 AM
If football ever gets to the point where you can bring people on and off like in ice hockey, I can see teams signing a dedicated fat lad to lie behind or in the wall for free kicks.

I'll do it for forty grand a week.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 10:36:19 AM
If football ever gets to the point where you can bring people on and off like in ice hockey, I can see teams signing a dedicated fat lad to lie behind or in the wall for free kicks.

I'll do it for forty grand a week.

They'd have to change the balti pies back to Pukka for me.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 23, 2022, 10:38:05 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then? 

If they think the world cup shouldn't be held there, then nor should they. Keane or Neville would make a far greater impact if they had done that. A lot of it is saying the right thing and taking the paycheck. I mean, do you really think the BBC will be talking about the US's illegal wars, the locking up of refugees, the incarceration of black people, etc at the next world cup?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 10:40:34 AM
Morocco the better side against the tablecloths but seemingly reluctant to shoot.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 10:49:57 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then? 

If they think the world cup shouldn't be held there, then nor should they. Keane or Neville would make a far greater impact if they had done that. A lot of it is saying the right thing and taking the paycheck. I mean, do you really think the BBC will be talking about the US's illegal wars, the locking up of refugees, the incarceration of black people, etc at the next world cup?

I do see what you are saying that other country's issues aren't picked over like Qatar's are, but the big difference between the US (and Britain) and them is that the US has a system of democracy in place with a government that can be held accountable publicly. The same isn't true in Qatar, you can't vote change through, pressure has to be applied to the individuals who otherwise are accountable to nobody.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 23, 2022, 10:59:36 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then? 

If they think the world cup shouldn't be held there, then nor should they. Keane or Neville would make a far greater impact if they had done that. A lot of it is saying the right thing and taking the paycheck. I mean, do you really think the BBC will be talking about the US's illegal wars, the locking up of refugees, the incarceration of black people, etc at the next world cup?

No, but just because they wonít say something then I donít think they should be precluded from saying something now.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dave on November 23, 2022, 11:02:25 AM
Roy Keane's a throbber, but I think he has spoken well so far. Better than the rest of the "oh, well, look, listen, uh, there's a lot that, uh, football can achieve, y'know, in, uh, bringing people together, and, uh, let's wait and see what, y'know, what football, uh, can do" cretins.

Yeah, fair play to him, he was spot on.

So why is he there?

For his job I'd imagine, which doesn't preclude him or anyone else from speaking out as far as I'm concerned. I'm really sick of people trying to shout down any issue raised because the person raising it doesn't live like a monk in a hairshirt.

I have no idea how Keane lives and I quite like him. But if you state categorically that the world cup shouldn't be held in Quatar then you shouldn't be there either earning lots of money in the process.

So the best-case scenario is glossy, uncritical reporting of the event and circumstances surrounding it - because anyone who feels that it's a A Bad Thing has refused to go?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Somniloquism on November 23, 2022, 11:03:13 AM
If the Premier League follow FIFA rules for added time at the end of the game, we could be in for some late nights down Villa Park

The injury time could be 20 minutes + at the end of each half with the time wasting that we do.

You do realise the reason for time "management" and if it won't make any difference, then I doubt we would do it.

Edit: I do wonder if this is a precursor to the 60-minute game with proper clock stoppages when the ball goes out of play. FIFA are demonstrating to the world the amount of time left over on each half. And the USA and others then have excuses to have Ad breaks and we can then have quarters.

Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 23, 2022, 11:05:54 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then?

Exactly. I agree with WV on a few things but he's got this wrong. If he had his way the only beneficiaries would be the Qatari regime. I'm sure they'd love it if only Qatar fanboys had bothered to turn up.

This is, of course, different from Gary Neville who seems to have turned up as a Qatari cheerleader and has massively let himself down.

Maybe he was impressed with the bar of gold the Qatari's put in the VIP goody bag. Very generous (to cheerleaders).
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 11:07:32 AM
Would you rather just have pundits who didnít utter a word of criticism then?

Exactly. I agree with WV on a few things but he's got this wrong. If he had his way the only beneficiaries would be the Qatari regime. I'm sure they'd love it if only Qatar fanboys had bothered to turn up.

This is, of course, different from Gary Neville who seems to have turned up as a Qatari cheerleader and has massively let himself down.

Maybe he was impressed with the bar of gold the Qatari's put in the VIP goody bag. Very generous (to cheerleaders).

But will they be equally impressed at his attempts to form a half-time human pyramid?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
It's in Qatar, not Egypt. Silly.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 11:09:37 AM
You haven't given us any world cup facts about pyramids yet, so I was unsure.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 23, 2022, 11:10:19 AM
This match desperately needs a goal to liven the game up
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 23, 2022, 11:12:25 AM
I am surprised by France. I thought after Pogba, Ben Zema, Kante and Nkunku were cropped they would struggle but where the fuck they keep bringing these players that scares the crap out of me?

They' also  lost a certain M. Benzema, the reigning Ballon d'Or winner who they didn't even bother replacing.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 23, 2022, 11:13:02 AM
I think it's still a very good football game.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 11:17:33 AM
Go on then. An actual World Cup FACT relating to football!

Going into this tournament, Croatia are the Unofficial World Champions. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships)
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 23, 2022, 11:24:29 AM
Show us your cup and star then :-/
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 11:26:49 AM
Go on then. An actual World Cup FACT relating to football!

Going into this tournament, Croatia are the Unofficial World Champions. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships)

Brilliant. Scotland, the most successful nation in the history of football, lol.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 11:27:26 AM
You can't argue with FACTS, mate.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 23, 2022, 11:30:33 AM
Croatia have just had about a hundred touches, backwards and sideways and got absolutely nowhere. When Morocco move the ball forward, at least they do it with some purpose.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 23, 2022, 11:32:45 AM
The speed Morocco counter attack at sometimes will frighten some teams to death.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: charlatan on November 23, 2022, 11:38:30 AM
The thing I hate most about Keane and Souness as pundits is they always look so bloody unhappy to be there. There are plenty of knowledgeable people who can communicate well who would love to do that job, who on earth is making the decision to keep re-employing these miserable arses?
I like that they have had to suffer for their money even if their rants are fairly predictable at this point. Beats seeing Richards getting enthused.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 23, 2022, 11:39:39 AM
One of my year 9 students asked me if I thought Morocco or Croatia would win and I said Morocco. She was so surprised and happy that I said that she's bringing me some cakes in. I'm not saying no!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 11:42:19 AM
One of my year 9 students asked me if I thought Morocco or Croatia would win and I said Morocco. She was so surprised and happy that I said that she's bringing me some cakes in. I'm not saying no!

Hopefully they're Morrocan too, they make some fantastic sweet treats.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 23, 2022, 11:44:12 AM
She definitely meant Moroccan cakes!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 11:44:30 AM
Can we have a late Moroccan winner, please. The tournament has been devoid of late drama.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 11:46:28 AM
She definitely meant Moroccan cakes!

Blimey, you live well you do pal.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Skerra on November 23, 2022, 11:53:20 AM
Hope the next match is better than this one otherwise an afternoon nap may be in order
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Bad English on November 23, 2022, 11:53:35 AM
It's a good job she was not Welsh and asking me about their game or I might have been getting cheese on toast
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 11:54:44 AM
It's a good job she was not Welsh and asking me about their game or I might have been getting cheese on toast

Or, er, Welsh cakes
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 23, 2022, 11:55:17 AM
Well looking at those Croatian shirts for the last two hours reminds me it's time for lunch.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Dogtanian on November 23, 2022, 11:57:23 AM
It's a good job she was not Welsh and asking me about their game or I might have been getting cheese on toast

You need to find some Qatari students so you're in with a shot at getting a bar of gold or a barrel of oil.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 23, 2022, 12:09:32 PM
It's a good job she was not Welsh and asking me about their game or I might have been getting cheese on toast

Or, er, Welsh cakes

Better than that, Laverbread.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Baldy on November 23, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
Hope the next match is better than this one otherwise an afternoon nap may be in order

Snap.

Watched 'live' three 0-0 draws in the last 24 hours. Beginning to think I should watch the highlights late at night and avoid the score during the day!!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 12:13:23 PM
It's a good job she was not Welsh and asking me about their game or I might have been getting cheese on toast

Or, er, Welsh cakes

Better than that, Laverbread.

Why do they call it 'bread'? That's not bread ffs.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 23, 2022, 12:39:42 PM
My house is full of decked out Japanese, playing Germany Japan on pro evolution before the game. I have to get up at 4:30 tomorrow.

One of my wife's mates brought a vuvuzela.

Oh dear
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2022, 12:44:01 PM
My house is full of decked out Japanese, playing Germany Japan on pro evolution before the game. I have to get up at 4:30 tomorrow.

One of my wife's mates brought a vuvuzela.

Oh dear

How are they looking as it stands mate? I've been impressed at the last couple of World Cups, they always seem to look like being on the verge of becomming a really good side
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 23, 2022, 12:51:27 PM
They've got some decent players, absolutely. Don't rate them at the back, though.

Kamada is my favourite for them. Kubo is a talent. Ito is a speedy bastard, and Endo is a quality defensive midfielder.

They've also got a Southgate type manager who kind of holds them back.

Come on Germany :D
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:02:29 PM
Mon Japan. France and Germany are the two most boring possible winners, don't let them both win.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:08:06 PM
There was no need whatsoever to run offside there. Absolute twat.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 23, 2022, 01:20:34 PM
Brilliant team photo of the German team before the game, all covering their mouths. Clever boys!
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 23, 2022, 01:23:54 PM
They've got some decent players, absolutely. Don't rate them at the back, though.

Kamada is my favourite for them. Kubo is a talent. Ito is a speedy bastard, and Endo is a quality defensive midfielder.

Japan must have a decent team if Sporting's Hidemasa Morita is on the bench.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 23, 2022, 01:25:38 PM
Regrettably there was no apology offered by these two teams before the kick off.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:31:52 PM
Possible penalty Germany.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:32:38 PM
Given. Probably fair enough.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 23, 2022, 01:32:47 PM
Poor judgement by the keeper.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:32:51 PM
Goal Gundogan.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: dr.chekov on November 23, 2022, 01:32:56 PM
1-0 Germany
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 23, 2022, 01:35:07 PM
Japan are absolute shite at the back.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 23, 2022, 01:36:57 PM
They've got some decent players, absolutely. Don't rate them at the back, though.

Kamada is my favourite for them. Kubo is a talent. Ito is a speedy bastard, and Endo is a quality defensive midfielder.

Japan must have a decent team if Sporting's Hidemasa Morita is on the bench.

Usually he'd be next to Endo, but has been injured I think.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 23, 2022, 01:39:30 PM
German player should have been given a yellow there, after the ref had played the advantage. Some of the officiating thus far in the competition has been poor.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:49:12 PM
Two-nil?
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:49:28 PM
Should be disallowed.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2022, 01:50:08 PM
Should be disallowed.

And is.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: olaftab on November 23, 2022, 01:50:39 PM
Unbelievable Jeff that check for offside.
Title: Re: The World Cup 2022
Post by: Axl Rose on November 23, 2022, 01:57:25 PM
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