Great to get three points, but it's just delaying the inevitable.
Awful match, piss poor performance, all Gerrard's fundamental problems in evidence.
Another season of flirting with relegation unless something changes.
I can't see him changing though.
We play such terrible, terrible football - Bruce level bad.
Awful.I know - I can’t remember a single thing he did
The most anonymous debut by a player I have ever seen, Dendionker take a bow.
I am not happy with how we played, but please behave
Because he did fuck all.Awful.I know - I can’t remember a single thing he did
The most anonymous debut by a player I have ever seen, Dendionker take a bow.
Sack him. Fucking terrible.I know right, it’s almost as if the other teams we play are trying to make us lose.
A long cold, hard winter otherwise, with games like this to look forward to? No fucking thanks.
Sack him. Fucking terrible.I know right, it’s almost as if the other teams we play are trying to make us lose.
A long cold, hard winter otherwise, with games like this to look forward to? No fucking thanks.
As in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.Mings was awesome, konsa also
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Not great but not as poor as some are making out. McGinn not as bad as people say either. I’d rather win ugly than lose pretty..
That looked like a game between two lower midtable teams.
As in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
As in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
Felt like we were playing practice vs an U21 side. Few times it felt like we'd burst into life but it just fell flat. I don't even remember Dendoncker being mentioned once he was on. Atmosphere seemed dead in the second half. I actually though Mcginn did ok but against better sides we are in trouble . I think this is just delaying the inevitable as far as Gerrard concerned.
Felt like we were playing practice vs an U21 side. Few times it felt like we'd burst into life but it just fell flat. I don't even remember Dendoncker being mentioned once he was on. Atmosphere seemed dead in the second half. I actually though Mcginn did ok but against better sides we are in trouble . I think this is just delaying the inevitable as far as Gerrard concerned.
Dendoncker got put into the silly auxilliery full back position that Gerrard seems to have created for our midfielders and looked like he had no idea where he was supposed to be.
The red fox trots quietly at midnightAs in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
What the hell are you on about?
It’s Dusty Bin. I’ll take that teasmaid.The red fox trots quietly at midnightAs in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
What the hell are you on about?
Backwards, sideways, sideways, hold, backwards, hoof…hold, sideways, backwards, sideways, inbound, backwards! Hoof…
Fluked the last four points imo.
7 points from 7, relegation form. That we're 13th with that return is extremely flattering.
Good win. We look like a team struggling for form, but we got stuck in, won the midfield and made Southampton look poor. Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought we did well tonight.
Fluked the last four points imo.
7 points from 7, relegation form. That we're 13th with that return is extremely flattering.
The red fox trots quietly at midnightAs in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
What the hell are you on about?
Exactly! The deeper we go into the forrest, the closer we are to the edgeThe red fox trots quietly at midnightAs in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
What the hell are you on about?
Exactly! The deeper we go into the forrest, the closer we are to the edgeThe red fox trots quietly at midnightAs in, stop buying banans at discount prices just because they areI am not happy with how we played, but please behave
What do you mean?
What the hell are you on about?
Exactly! The deeper we go into the forrest, the closer we are to the edge
I’d rather watch a waste pipe on a Devon beach.
Can't be arsed to moan about that. We won and I got to see a few fancy flicks from my Phil. Happy enough. Konsa and Mings were our best players, IMO.
Can't be arsed to moan about that. We won and I got to see a few fancy flicks from my Phil. Happy enough. Konsa and Mings were our best players, IMO.
I think Coutinho got MOTM. It's a bit of funny season so far, Soton beat Chelsea and are level with us and Palace are below us.
Fluked the last four points imo.
7 points from 7, relegation form. That we're 13th with that return is extremely flattering.
I've felt for a while that Konsa is slowly creeping back to his previous form, and by the looks of things we'll need him to be that good.
That Ings effort was shocking.
I’d rather watch a waste pipe on a Devon beach.
Don’t worry, I’m sure it’ll be alright now Steevie has some extra time on the training pitch with his players…..
I’d rather watch a waste pipe on a Devon beach.
Agreed. We’re just going through the motions.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12699341/aston-villa-1-0-southampton-premier-league-highlightsThought they made Villa look quite good. But they are only 2min36sec long.
It wasn’t sensational but I didn’t think it was as bad as people are making out. We were comfortably the better side. Southampton were really poor.
As for it being one of the worst top flight games ever, I can only assume people saying that never saw Wimbledon play, or Stoke under Pulis.
It wasn’t sensational but I didn’t think it was as bad as people are making out. We were comfortably the better side. Southampton were really poor.You are a true gentleman and kind one at that.
As for it being one of the worst top flight games ever, I can only assume people saying that never saw Wimbledon play, or Stoke under Pulis.
The queue to see the coffin is going all the way down Southbank where I'm texting this from.
Went to see the enjoyable if overblown Moonage Daydream at the Imax. Only found out the result when I was having a slash in the jacks after. Sounds like the game was the opposite of overblown and enjoyable.
The queue to see the coffin is going all the way down Southbank where I'm texting this from.
Don’t worry, I’m sure it’ll be alright now Steevie has some extra time on the training pitch with his players…..
Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Is that the same Coutinho who didn’t create a chance, didn’t last 90 minutes, didn’t score ?
He’s a busted flush. We’ll never improve by starting with him.
Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Is that the same Coutinho who didn’t create a chance, didn’t last 90 minutes, didn’t score ?
He’s a busted flush. We’ll never improve by starting with him.
Don't talk daft. Coutinho is a magician.
A win's a win but that was a hard watch tonight. McGinn is just a really, really shit footballer. Why Gerrard sticks with him I don't know, he can't pass to save himself. The defence played well though, and I thought Mings and Digne both had very good games. Watkins had another stinker, another player who isn't anywhere near the required standard, but then neither is his potental replacement Ings. The least said about Dendoncker's cameo the better. Still, a clean sheet and 3 points. We move on.
I thought McGinn had a decent game to be honest. Mings was very good too.
I thought McGinn had a decent game to be honest. Mings was very good too.
73% passing accuracy and dispossed 14-15 times in the game (at 65 minutes ish when the stat came up) is not good enough. He looked OK because he won it back a few times, largely because Southampton managed to be worse.
Happy with the win as drab as it was . It was comfortable because Southampton were so awful. I'd like to see us test the opposition keeper a bit more, we don't do that anywhere near enough under Gerrard
A win's a win but that was a hard watch tonight. McGinn is just a really, really shit footballer. Why Gerrard sticks with him I don't know, he can't pass to save himself. The defence played well though, and I thought Mings and Digne both had very good games. Watkins had another stinker, another player who isn't anywhere near the required standard, but then neither is his potental replacement Ings. The least said about Dendoncker's cameo the better. Still, a clean sheet and 3 points. We move on.
40 yard drive?
Best touch ever?
A goal when everybody had stopped playing?
As you said, “ so you were told”
Nobody hates skilful players that produce.
Players with Nonpace, no end product, making the team less effective overall - that’s what I don’t like
I thought McGinn had a decent game to be honest. Mings was very good too.
73% passing accuracy and dispossed 14-15 times in the game (at 65 minutes ish when the stat came up) is not good enough. He looked OK because he won it back a few times, largely because Southampton managed to be worse.
I still think he had a decent game personally.
Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Is that the same Coutinho who didn’t create a chance, didn’t last 90 minutes, didn’t score ?
He’s a busted flush. We’ll never improve by starting with him.
We wonThat absolutely spot on. The game was awful but we won.
We kept a clean sheet
We really weren’t as bad as some are making out.
If we’d played brilliantly and lost, the same people would have been moaning that we can’t win ugly.
What ever we do doesn’t seem good enough for some.
What continues to be concerning however is the lack of any kind of attacking identity. I've not seen a sustained period of play at all this season where we have attacked a team in a coherent way, with a clear plan for exploiting their weaknesses and creating chances.
Horrendous last 24 hours as had to say goodbye to our beautiful dog. We’ll play a lot better and lose so just happy with the win. Small steps to building confidence.
Good to see Phil starting to get back at it.
Like others on here I thought Konsa and Mings were excellent. Coutinho was very good too, but McGinn was absolutely crap in possession.Agreed.
Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Is that the same Coutinho who didn’t create a chance, didn’t last 90 minutes, didn’t score ?
He’s a busted flush. We’ll never improve by starting with him.
Don't talk daft. Coutinho is a magician.
What’s the evidence for that?
McGinn is crap. He does nothing with the ball and the amount of times he loses 50/50 balls is incredible. Not good enough, unless we want to finish 16th.
Coutinho played well last night.Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Is that the same Coutinho who didn’t create a chance, didn’t last 90 minutes, didn’t score ?
He’s a busted flush. We’ll never improve by starting with him.
Don't talk daft. Coutinho is a magician.
What’s the evidence for that?
Huh? He was instrumental in the bits when we actually looked alright last night.
Replace McGinn, Watkins and Bailey with better footballers we might stand a chance. All 3 for me epitomise why we struggle. A midfielder that can't pass for shit but works like a dog so is lauded, a forward who can't finish his dinner but works like a dog so is lauded, and a winger-come-forward who can finish but appears to offer literally nothing else at all, but lives off 2-3 nice finishes. All 3 offer so little to our actual function as a football team in an attacking sense. Agree though, Ings is even worse so utterly pointless. I would flog all 4 and get our scouting team to go and find better. It should not be hard. Coutinho might be a busted flush, but he's 20 times the footballer that lot are. People think Mings is a problem. He's a bloody godsend, actually does his job much of the time.Agreed. After a match resembling a fight between two bald men fighting over a toupee, I made the 2-hour journey home reflecting on 3 things:
Rant over sorry.
Coutinho played well last night.Well we needed that win but we should have wrapped this up before half time. We hugged and puffed against a very poor team. Coutinho was a class above everyone on the pitch but we are so lacklustre in our movement and positional play.
McGinn worked extremely hard off the ball but he really slows the game down and gives it away to easily.
Thought Mings was excellent at the back.
Is that the same Coutinho who didn’t create a chance, didn’t last 90 minutes, didn’t score ?
He’s a busted flush. We’ll never improve by starting with him.
Don't talk daft. Coutinho is a magician.
What’s the evidence for that?
Huh? He was instrumental in the bits when we actually looked alright last night.
It's up to people whether they want to see it or not.
Don’t worry, I’m sure it’ll be alright now Steevie has some extra time on the training pitch with his players…..
I take it you’ve noticed we get worse every time that happens.
It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
Agree about the last performance. But Luiz is leaving - possibly in 10 games time - so I can see why he's not first pick.It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
So you would expect him to build on that.
But no, he went back to the system and players that have been failing under for months now.
He was last week, so what has changed in a week?Agree about the last performance. But Luiz is leaving - possibly in 10 games time - so I can see why he's not first pick.It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
So you would expect him to build on that.
But no, he went back to the system and players that have been failing under for months now.
Who knows. Maybe the reports from around 10 September that he's told friends he wants to go to Arsenal ?He was last week, so what has changed in a week?Agree about the last performance. But Luiz is leaving - possibly in 10 games time - so I can see why he's not first pick.It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
So you would expect him to build on that.
But no, he went back to the system and players that have been failing under for months now.
I don’t mind grinding out a few wins as long as it’s interspersed with some decent football in between
But when grinding football is all you’ve got it gets a bit depressing
But every body agreed he played really well against Citeh.Who knows. Maybe the reports from around 10 September that he's told friends he wants to go to Arsenal ?He was last week, so what has changed in a week?Agree about the last performance. But Luiz is leaving - possibly in 10 games time - so I can see why he's not first pick.It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
So you would expect him to build on that.
But no, he went back to the system and players that have been failing under for months now.
We need better players. Shortly after coming on Buendia played a superb pass through to Watkins, who controlled it with all his customary grace and precision, and it bounced off his foot like a ping pong ball being dropped onto a pile of bricks.
Wot CL said.It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
So you would expect him to build on that.
But no, he went back to the system and players that have been failing under for months now.
Totally agree. We need a big upgrade on Watkins. Yes he works his nuts off but I want to see a striker with a silky first touch. A striker who can score from any angle with either foot or his head and has a goal poachers instinct. A striker who has a lethal turn of pace. An all round goal machine. Ollie Watkins is none of these and until they recognise that and address it we can forget the pipe dreams of top 6 and European football.We need better players. Shortly after coming on Buendia played a superb pass through to Watkins, who controlled it with all his customary grace and precision, and it bounced off his foot like a ping pong ball being dropped onto a pile of bricks.
Those passes from Buendia should be a centre forwards dream. I love the way he plays them so effortlessly and over the last twelve months we should have scored more goals from them.
He’s a joy to watch at times and we need to make the most of him and Coutinho for that matter.
It obviously wasn't great but I don't get that it was that bad. Quotes about worst ever TV match etc - have they watched 10 years of Stoke under Pulis ? Or us under Lambert / McLeish / Garde ?we saw one of the best performances under him last week , this was built on a midfield platform of Kamara and Luiz.
We stopped a team that's already beaten two of last years top six from having a single shot on target. And could / should have had a second from Jacob in the second half in which case we stroll to the win.
Still lots for Steven Me to do but he's made us tighter and the team are playing for him. It's not his fault Bailey gives the ball away 23 times in an hour or Watkins can't trap a bag of cement. With Kamara injured we basically have the team that finished 14th. Not sure what everyone expects.
So you would expect him to build on that.
But no, he went back to the system and players that have been failing under for months now.
On reflection it was a game SG knew he had to win, by all means necessary, to save his job. He achieved it, at least for today. What he hasn't calculated in how long our owners will put up with the complete lack of entertainment given the players he has, plus the very poor start to the season.
I expect there to be some very serious conversations over the international break. I don't think Gerrard is as safe as he thinks he is.
Totally agree. We need a big upgrade on Watkins. Yes he works his nuts off but I want to see a striker with a silky first touch. A striker who can score from any angle with either foot or his head and has a goal poachers instinct. A striker who has a lethal turn of pace. An all round goal machine. Ollie Watkins is none of these and until they recognise that and address it we can forget the pipe dreams of top 6 and European football.We need better players. Shortly after coming on Buendia played a superb pass through to Watkins, who controlled it with all his customary grace and precision, and it bounced off his foot like a ping pong ball being dropped onto a pile of bricks.
Those passes from Buendia should be a centre forwards dream. I love the way he plays them so effortlessly and over the last twelve months we should have scored more goals from them.
He’s a joy to watch at times and we need to make the most of him and Coutinho for that matter.
Win or lose I try to make it a rule not to come on here until the day after a game. The negativity is nauseating. But we needed the win, deserved the win & never looked like losing. It was dull but ultimately who cares.
Dammed if we're too open, dammed if we're too cautious. A win is a win. Let's build from here.
Then the challenge is to find one. The club pay people a lot of money to search for top players. Mo Salah cost Liverpool 34m. They are out there and we are trying to get to the summit of European football according to Purslow and our owners. We need some of that can do attitude Purslow was talking about.Totally agree. We need a big upgrade on Watkins. Yes he works his nuts off but I want to see a striker with a silky first touch. A striker who can score from any angle with either foot or his head and has a goal poachers instinct. A striker who has a lethal turn of pace. An all round goal machine. Ollie Watkins is none of these and until they recognise that and address it we can forget the pipe dreams of top 6 and European football.We need better players. Shortly after coming on Buendia played a superb pass through to Watkins, who controlled it with all his customary grace and precision, and it bounced off his foot like a ping pong ball being dropped onto a pile of bricks.
Those passes from Buendia should be a centre forwards dream. I love the way he plays them so effortlessly and over the last twelve months we should have scored more goals from them.
He’s a joy to watch at times and we need to make the most of him and Coutinho for that matter.
Those type of strikers are in really short supply, they cost a fortune and have their choice of who they sign for. Much as we’d all love one at Villa I don’t think we’re in that market at the moment.
Salah cost Liverpool over £40m with add ons, and that was 5 years ago. Transfer fees have gone up a tad since then. If it was that easy to sign a top forward without spending an absolute fortune all of the league would be doing it.Yes, I don’t know why we don’t just go out and sign all the best players.
He just lumbered round like a big lumbering thing. Early days, but I wouldn’t expect him to bring much dynamism to the midfield.
Don’t worry, I’m sure it’ll be alright now Steevie has some extra time on the training pitch with his players…..
I take it you’ve noticed we get worse every time that happens.
Indeed, sarcasm doesn’t translate well across the internet.
Watkins' work rate will always make him a worthwhile pick, but Jesus Christ the lad's boots must be made of the same stuff as pinball machine bouncers.
Toney scored 12 league goals last season, 5 were pens. Ollie scored 11 with 1 pen. I'm not sure it's much of an upgrade.
Ok for all those picking apart my comment I say this. Watkins is not a goalscorer. Simple. How many one on one's have we seen him fluff? He had two away at City last season which would of seen us go 3 or 4 nil up against one of the best sides on the planet. I'm aware of inflation so the 40mil Liverpool paid for Salah would be more than that today. But he was still a relatively cheap player inthe scheme of things and if we are serious about challenging at the top end that's precisely what we should be trying to emulate. I can't understand why people are arguing against it.
Toney scored 12 league goals last season, 5 were pens. Ollie scored 11 with 1 pen. I'm not sure it's much of an upgrade.
And how are they doing this season so far?
He isn't. He's no significant upgrade and is also a massive twat. We need to be trying to sign people like Lewandowski not shopping around Brentford again.Ha! Now I know I'm right.
I never said it was easy. I said it's what we should be aiming to do. My point is Watkins is not a goalscorer. He's an absolute machine with his work rate and gives the opposition nightmares but we need a 20 goals a season striker if we are going to challenge at the top. I suppose I'm guilty of stating the bleeding obvious.Ok for all those picking apart my comment I say this. Watkins is not a goalscorer. Simple. How many one on one's have we seen him fluff? He had two away at City last season which would of seen us go 3 or 4 nil up against one of the best sides on the planet. I'm aware of inflation so the 40mil Liverpool paid for Salah would be more than that today. But he was still a relatively cheap player inthe scheme of things and if we are serious about challenging at the top end that's precisely what we should be trying to emulate. I can't understand why people are arguing against it.
Again, if it's so easy why isn't everyone in the league doing it?
Salah joined a side in the Champions League for a fee 5 years ago that is still more than we've ever paid for a player. Those are the reasons i'm saying it's not easy. No one is saying they wouldn't like an upgrade on Watkins, but it's not as easy as you are trying to make out.
From the little we’ve seen of him, I think we have the answer if given the chance, Archer.That would be awesome. They seem reluctant to give him his chance though for some reason.
Ings looks like he would struggle to keep up with a conga line in an old folks home.
From the little we’ve seen of him, I think we have the answer if given the chance, Archer.That would be awesome. They seem reluctant to give him his chance though for some reason.
Giving Archer his first start in the PL is a huge call for the manager. They have to be certain that he's ready. As fans we're all praying for one of our own to step up and be "the man" but we have to trust the judgement of those who are paid to make that call. Wouldn't it be amazing to watch his debut at Villa Park and for him to go on to a stellar career and be able to tell our kids and grandkids "I was there?"From the little we’ve seen of him, I think we have the answer if given the chance, Archer.That would be awesome. They seem reluctant to give him his chance though for some reason.
Perhaps it's because he's not ready or not good enough, yet. Players who don't play are always better than those in the team. Incredibly there's still some who think Guilbert should be playing.
Appreciate we won't know about Archer until we try.
But you can imagine what would happen if he played a couple of games & missed some chances. I don't see Archer as a No 9 & I don't think Gerrard is in the position to take the risk.
Giving Archer his first start in the PL is a huge call for the manager. They have to be certain that he's ready. As fans we're all praying for one of our own to step up and be "the man" but we have to trust the judgement of those who are paid to make that call. Wouldn't it be amazing to watch his debut at Villa Park and for him to go on to a stellar career and be able to tell our kids and grandkids "I was there?"From the little we’ve seen of him, I think we have the answer if given the chance, Archer.That would be awesome. They seem reluctant to give him his chance though for some reason.
Perhaps it's because he's not ready or not good enough, yet. Players who don't play are always better than those in the team. Incredibly there's still some who think Guilbert should be playing.
Appreciate we won't know about Archer until we try.
But you can imagine what would happen if he played a couple of games & missed some chances. I don't see Archer as a No 9 & I don't think Gerrard is in the position to take the risk.
I'd rather we stopped gambling on players who might be alright and signed that Juventus bloke Monty recommended. Have forgotten his name but think he's from one of the Balkan countries.
Dušan Vlahović, Juventus to Aston Villa. Here we go!
The only players to score more than 15 league goals last season were Kane, Son, Salah, Mane and Ronaldo. That's why it isn't easy.
It wasn't the best performance, granted. Soton dragged us down to a mediocre level, But lets look at the positives, watkins looked threatening. Ming was commanding. The subs were well timed, and a wins a win.
Keep the faith, Steveies interview was far more upbeat than previous interviews, and that'll filter through to the lads.. FACT
I wont be suprised if there's not a run coming on!
I thought Watkins worked very hard and took up some promising positions. What I dont get is why we are finding it so hard to improve his first touch, which is horrific. Just dont let him off the training pitch until the groundsman is swinging his keys around and complaining that his tea is going cold.
I thought Watkins worked very hard and took up some promising positions. What I dont get is why we are finding it so hard to improve his first touch, which is horrific. Just dont let him off the training pitch until the groundsman is swinging his keys around and complaining that his tea is going cold.
I thought his first touch on Friday was improved?
I thought Watkins worked very hard and took up some promising positions. What I dont get is why we are finding it so hard to improve his first touch, which is horrific. Just dont let him off the training pitch until the groundsman is swinging his keys around and complaining that his tea is going cold.
I never said it was easy. I said it's what we should be aiming to do. My point is Watkins is not a goalscorer. He's an absolute machine with his work rate and gives the opposition nightmares but we need a 20 goals a season striker if we are going to challenge at the top. I suppose I'm guilty of stating the bleeding obvious.Ok for all those picking apart my comment I say this. Watkins is not a goalscorer. Simple. How many one on one's have we seen him fluff? He had two away at City last season which would of seen us go 3 or 4 nil up against one of the best sides on the planet. I'm aware of inflation so the 40mil Liverpool paid for Salah would be more than that today. But he was still a relatively cheap player inthe scheme of things and if we are serious about challenging at the top end that's precisely what we should be trying to emulate. I can't understand why people are arguing against it.
Again, if it's so easy why isn't everyone in the league doing it?
Salah joined a side in the Champions League for a fee 5 years ago that is still more than we've ever paid for a player. Those are the reasons i'm saying it's not easy. No one is saying they wouldn't like an upgrade on Watkins, but it's not as easy as you are trying to make out.
I never said it was easy. I said it's what we should be aiming to do. My point is Watkins is not a goalscorer. He's an absolute machine with his work rate and gives the opposition nightmares but we need a 20 goals a season striker if we are going to challenge at the top. I suppose I'm guilty of stating the bleeding obvious.Ok for all those picking apart my comment I say this. Watkins is not a goalscorer. Simple. How many one on one's have we seen him fluff? He had two away at City last season which would of seen us go 3 or 4 nil up against one of the best sides on the planet. I'm aware of inflation so the 40mil Liverpool paid for Salah would be more than that today. But he was still a relatively cheap player inthe scheme of things and if we are serious about challenging at the top end that's precisely what we should be trying to emulate. I can't understand why people are arguing against it.
Again, if it's so easy why isn't everyone in the league doing it?
Salah joined a side in the Champions League for a fee 5 years ago that is still more than we've ever paid for a player. Those are the reasons i'm saying it's not easy. No one is saying they wouldn't like an upgrade on Watkins, but it's not as easy as you are trying to make out.
Unless a player is the very best in their position, then I'm never 100% against trying to improve the side by bringing in better, but sometimes you have to accept other positions are priorities, and that the players who ARE better that what we have, simply aren't gettable (at the minute).
I don't think a striker capable of getting (or likely to get close to) 20 goals a season is going to join us, in our current position. We need to be in Europe, and looking to challenge the top four before we can attract that level of talent. We might unearth someone, get lucky with our recruitment, or strike gold with a homegrown player, but to go out and splash the cash to recruit that striker who guarantees goals simply isn't realistic right now. That's not to say I don't think we're trying, I'm just sure we don't get a look in once champions league sides start sniffing around.
All that said, Man City won the league last year and their top scorer was a midfielder with 15 (De Bruyne). Sterling was their top scoring forward with 13. If we spread the goals around a bit more we wouldn't NEED a 20 goals a season striker. We just don't create enough full stop. Haaland would be lucky to have three or four by this stage if he was in the middle of our front three.
Where is he now? Get him in, seeing as we couldn't compete with selling the Wolves dream to Diego Costa.
Nope, he's at Oviedo.
Nope, he's at Oviedo.
Giroud is at Milan.
Found out the result after the longest train journey in the world from Yerevan to Batumi. Seven hour drive according to google maps, 17 hours by train. Still seems more fun that having to sit through the game.
Found out the result after the longest train journey in the world from Yerevan to Batumi. Seven hour drive according to google maps, 17 hours by train. Still seems more fun that having to sit through the game.
They’re unusual holiday destinations.
Found out the result after the longest train journey in the world from Yerevan to Batumi. Seven hour drive according to google maps, 17 hours by train. Still seems more fun that having to sit through the game.
They’re unusual holiday destinations.
He's a big Norman Blake fan.
Found out the result after the longest train journey in the world from Yerevan to Batumi. Seven hour drive according to google maps, 17 hours by train. Still seems more fun that having to sit through the game.
They’re unusual holiday destinations.
He's a big Norman Blake fan.
Never heard of him and I’m non the wiser after looking him up!?!
I assumed he wanted Giroud not Baston!
Sorry, you've got Baston now. No refunds.