Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: markeeeebeeee2005 on August 18, 2022, 02:16:10 PM
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I thought it could be interesting to have a thread with cultural references to Villa/ Villa Park where you might or might not expect them. The one I’ll kick off with is MCMXIV written in 1964 by Philip Larkin. It’s just a small mention but I immediately punched the air when I heard it read out on a podcast.
The Roman numerals translate to 1914, which gives a good hint to what he is talking about, here it is:
Those long uneven lines
Standing as patiently
As if they were stretched outside
The Oval or Villa Park,
The crowns of hats, the sun
On moustached archaic faces
Grinning as if it were all
An August Bank Holiday lark;
And the shut shops, the bleached
Established names on the sunblinds,
The farthings and sovereigns,
And dark-clothed children at play
Called after kings and queens,
The tin advertisements
For cocoa and twist, and the pubs
Wide open all day;
And the countryside not caring:
The place-names all hazed over
With flowering grasses, and fields
Shadowing Domesday lines
Under wheat’s restless silence;
The differently-dressed servants
With tiny rooms in huge houses,
The dust behind limousines;
Never such innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word – the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages,
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again.
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Henry Green’s novel ‘Living’ written in the 1920s and set in Birmingham. Includes a great scene when one of the characters goes to Villa Park to watch “the greatest team in the world.” Also, Green’s autobiography, Pack My Bag, written in 1939. In it he describes his average Saturday, which includes going to watch Villa.
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Harold Pinter’s The Dumb Waiter contains the following:
Ben: Didn't touch him! What are you talking about? He laid him out flat!
Gus: Not the Villa. The Villa don't play that sort of game.
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A poem from the Wipers Times:
THE BURNING QUESTION
Three Tommies sat in a trench one day,
Discussing the war in the usual way,
They talked of the mud and they talked of the Hun,
Of what was to do and what had been done,
They talked about rum, and-tis hard to believe,
They even found time to speak about leave,
But the point which they argued from post back to pillar,
Was whether Notts County could beat Aston villa,
The night sped away and zero drew nigh,
Equipment made ready all lips getting dry,
And watches consulted with each passing minute
Till five more to go then twould find them all in it,
The word came along the line to get ready!
The sergeant admonishing all to keep steady,
But out rang a voice getting shriller and shriller,
I tell yer Notts County can beat Aston Villa!
The earth shook and swayed and the barrage was on
As they leapt o'er the top with a rush, and were gone
Away into Hun land through mud and though wire
Stabbing and dragging themselves though the mire
No time to heed those who are following en route
Till stopped by a strong point they lay down to shoot,
Then through the din came a voice " Say Jack Miller! "
"I tell yer Notts County can beat Aston Villa"
The strong point has gone, and forward they press
Towards their objective in number grown less
They reach it at last and prepare to resist
The counter_attack, which will come through the mist
Of the rain falling steadily, dig and hang on
The word for support back to H.Q has gone
The air charged with moment grows stiller and stiller---
" Notts County's no earthly against Aston Villa "
Two " Blighties ", a struggle through mud to get back
To the old A.D.S down a rough duck board track
A hasty field dressing a ride in a car
A wait in a C.C.S., then there they are
Packed side by side in a clean Red Cross train,
Happy in hopes to see Blighty again,
Still, through the bandages, muffled "Jack Miller,
I bet you Notts County can beat Aston Villa! "
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We've been on episodes of Porridge and Crossroads (obvs). Corrie never want anything to do with us but Suranne Jones' kid was a full-kit Villa fan in Dr Foster.
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Mickie Made the Most by Go Kart Mozart includes the verse:
What happened to young Gary Shaw?
He played for the Villa, he don't play for them no more
And the crowds on the terraces shout for Gary Shaw
And the crowds on the terraces shout for Gary Shaw
And the Holte End kids shout out for Gary Shaw
Ah that blonde haired Brummie kid he sure could score
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Leonard Jeffrey Osbourne (Oz) off of Auf Wiedersehen Pet claimed that someone pissed down his leg at Villa Park.
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More well known there’s Spizzenergi:
You made the sun shine brighter
You made the blues go away
We've gotta believe
We're gonna win the league
Woh-oh Aston villa
Gra-ver-ley hill riviera
Holte Enders live forever
The sun never sets on Aston Villa
In every town tonight
There is a wonderful sight
A believer like me and you
Wearing the claret and blue
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
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We've been on episodes of Porridge and Crossroads (obvs). Corrie never want anything to do with us but Suranne Jones' kid was a full-kit Villa fan in Dr Foster.
I was just thinking of the Porridge mention was it a score ??
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Yeah, I think against Rovverram.
I don't think Winehouse was Villa, just her messed-up partner.
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From John Lennon’s “poem” Deaf Ted, Danoota, (And Me)…
Thorg Billy grows and Burnley ten,
And Aston Villa three
We clobber ever gallup
Deaf Ted, Danoota, and me.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
The Welsh one in Gavin and Stacey wears a Villa top.
All of the Villa players names in the (dire) Jack Reacher books.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
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The Welsh one in Gavin and Stacey wears a Villa top.
All of the Villa players names in the (dire) Jack Reacher books.
All except Sid as he is Lee Childs favourite player.
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That film, Ford v Ferrari, in which Christian Bale does the world's only very good Brummie accent by an actor not from the West Midlands, his kid is wearing a Villa kit in one of the scenes.
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The kid playing Christian Bale’s son in Le Mans ‘66 wears a Villa shirt.
Snap
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The kid playing Christian Bale’s son in Le Mans ‘66 wears a Villa shirt.
You snooze, you lose.
;-)
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There's a fairly well-known French rock band called Astonvilla.
https://youtu.be/ylSmvmLqpVo
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John Lennon mentions us in a poem called, Deaf Ted, Danoota and me.
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John Lennon mentions us in a poem called, Deaf Ted, Danoota and me.
Is there an echo in here?
Dr Chekov may wish to ask that question.
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Can't complain. I did the same.
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There was an episode of Spooks in which a suicide bomber was a Villa fan. One of the people trying to stop him exploding his bomb said something like ‘Suicide is a bit extreme even for an Aston Villa fan, don't you think?’
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We've been on episodes of Porridge and Crossroads (obvs). Corrie never want anything to do with us but Suranne Jones' kid was a full-kit Villa fan in Dr Foster.
I was just thinking of the Porridge mention was it a score ??
Lenny mentions us in his prayer from "A Quiet Night In" and pretends to row with Jarvis about us being better than Newton Heath to excuse a fight between the pair. Jarvis was played by David Daker who was from Bilston, so perfect for the role.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
He’s also a Villa fan in The Cleaner, as is a female copper
(They discuss how he missed a game because someone was sick in his shoes).
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I thought it could be interesting to have a thread with cultural references to Villa/ Villa Park where you might or might not expect them. The one I’ll kick off with is MCMXIV written in 1964 by Philip Larkin. It’s just a small mention but I immediately punched the air when I heard it read out on a podcast.
The Roman numerals translate to 1914, which gives a good hint to what he is talking about, here it is:
Those long uneven lines
Standing as patiently
As if they were stretched outside
The Oval or Villa Park,
The crowns of hats, the sun
On moustached archaic faces
Grinning as if it were all
An August Bank Holiday lark;
A poem which is itself the subject of a class discussion in the brilliant “History Boys”.
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Loved the poems.
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Geezer Butlers bass
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There is an episode of mid 1990s cop show 'Backup' in which Villa play Liverpool at Villa Park.
Also, the son in Dr Foster is a Villa fan
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There was a cartoon in Punch way back when we ruled the world. The diner says ‘How’s the game today waiter?’.
Waiter: The Villa have won again sir.
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Villa reference and Villa badge on rucksack of an actor in Martin Sheen's film The Way.
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Nessa in "Gavin and Stacey" wears a Villa shirt.
Jim Hacker MP expresses annoyance at the amount of reading his Civil Servants have given him to do over the weekend in "Yes Minister", as "Villa's at home to Liverpool". Though, in a later episode, he attempts to use his influence to save the fictional club "Aston Wanderers".
Lennie Godber from "Porridge" and its sequel, "Going Straight", is Villa...
"When I was up in court and Villa looked like doing well in the cup, I prayed
But I don't know, it didn't seem to work out
I got probation and Villa lost to Rotherham one nothing."
There's a Villa-supporting terrorist in an early episode of "Spooks". Another character tries to talk him out of detonating a bomb by saying "suicide's a bit extreme even for an Aston Villa fan, don't you think?".
Villa are mentioned in an episode of "Peaky Blinders" where someone is asked to name the Villa and Blose goalkeepers to show local knowledge and prevent outside infiltration of the gang. The Villa answer was Tommy Jackson who was understudy, and later successor, to the legendary Sam Hardy.
Lenny Henry did a pastiche of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video, where he sang that a bunch of zombies "look like they're the fans of Aston Villa".
Jack Grealish, then at Villa, is namechecked in Stormzy remix "Sore".
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There's a song Nigel Kennedy and Stephen Duffy sang called Holte End Hotel brilliant song it's on Youtube I've got the album.
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Lenny Henry did a pastiche of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video, where he sang that a bunch of zombies "look like they're the fans of Aston Villa".
Sounds like one of his funniest bits of material...
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I remember I liked it at the time, but I was about five. My toes are still curling from his Commonwealth Games routine.
Anyway, here's the Thriller video...
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Julian Joachim is shown on tv playing for Villa around 1998 in the film Hannibal.
Arsenal Villa 1991 is playing on multiple TV in a shop window at the end of Mr Bean goes to Town.
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You're all missing the most obvious one - the actor that plays the dad in CBeebies classic series 'Waffle The Wonder Dog' is a Villa fan and in most episodes he is wearing some combination of claret and blue.
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Ha, deadly!
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More comedy characters
Pike in Dad’s Army wears a claret and blue scarf
Mrs Doyle in Father Ted wears claret and blue woolly socks/tights
Both actors are Villa fans in real life.
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Most random/hilarious mention of Villa out of context I've heard was Blindboy Boatclub from The Rubberbandits discussing mental health on his podcast a few weeks back.
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There was a music video by Wolfsbane back in the day where the drummer had used black tape to have AV on the drum set. No idea which song as it was late 80s or early 90s, and Wolfsbane were shit.
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Villa reference and Villa badge on rucksack of an actor in Martin Sheen's film The Way.
The actor was James Nesbit who plays the character Jack.
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BBC Radio comedy from the 1970s, "The Men From The Ministry" - think "Yes, Minister" but without the insight and written primarily for cheap laughs.
There is an episode called Birmingham Is Revolting, in which there is an environmental issue in the city. However, due to a typing error in a Whitehall memo, rather than depollution the remedy that is enacted is devolution.
Birmingham's newly installed Foreign Secretary, Ivor Smallhouse (oh, my aching sides) is interviewed on that well known current affairs programme Scatterama (oh, stop it!) and says, "We wish to remain friends with Britain. For any viewers fancying a holiday abroad this year, there's always a welcome in the sun-kissed streets of Birmingham. Linger a while in the pleasant bistros of the Costa-del-Aston or rent your own Aston villa..."
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I remember the Brummie band Fuzzbox playing on telly and the presenter said they were the best thing to come out of Brum since Aston Villa.
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Line of Duty - Holte End Holdings being one of the shell companies used by "H"
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Jasper Carrott - as with most Blues fans , always goes on about the Villa when he does stand up and his material involves football. I must admit I do love Carrott.
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I read a biography of Bernard Montgomery. When he was Officer Commanding the Warwicks he was billeted in Golden Hillock Rd and took to attending Villa games. Apparently he had his name on a seat in the Trinity exclusively for him. It may be an apocryphal story but it is nice to think it is true. Ellis probably sent it to landfill.
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HDE probably told people he'd taught Montgomery how to organise the defence of El Alamein against Rommel's forces.
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Indupitably BV. Ellis would also have coached Montgomery on how to make a decent brew in a Benghazi (ask your grandad) and how to keep Eisenhower in his place.
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Indupitably BV. Ellis would also have coached Montgomery on how to make a decent brew in a Benghazi (ask your grandad) and how to keep Eisenhower in his place.
You're too too kind, even my dear Dad has a few months on you, but I did find out what a 'Benghazi burner' was.
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Neil Tennant dressed as a referee is super-imposed on to a backdrop of Villa Park in the video for the Pet Shop Boys single DJ Culture from 1991.
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Jasper Carrott - as with most Blues fans , always goes on about the Villa when he does stand up and his material involves football. I must admit I do love Carrott.
Certainly does, I first saw him at Sheffield City Hall in October 1976 and, when he first mentioned us, I waved my Villa scarf and shouted 'up the Villa'. He acknowledged me in a very pleasant way; I think the rest of the audience thought I was mad though!
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Villa in a UEFA cup tie was playing on a TV in a scene from one of the Hannibal Lecter films, Hannibal?
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think it was Joachim in one of the FA Cup games at Wembley
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Neil Tennant dressed as a referee is super-imposed on to a backdrop of Villa Park in the video for the Pet Shop Boys single DJ Culture from 1991.
Ha, I love that choon but never knew that.
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Neil Tennant dressed as a referee is super-imposed on to a backdrop of Villa Park in the video for the Pet Shop Boys single DJ Culture from 1991.
Ha, I love that choon but never knew that.
Looks like Highbury to me so sadly may not be true.
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Neil Tennant dressed as a referee is super-imposed on to a backdrop of Villa Park in the video for the Pet Shop Boys single DJ Culture from 1991.
Ha, I love that choon but never knew that.
Looks like Highbury to me so sadly may not be true.
It's at 3:43 where you can see the V of the old AV floodlights. Highbury is the earlier section with the dancers in the red and white striped shirts.
https://youtu.be/Mbprblx2s48
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Neil Tennant dressed as a referee is super-imposed on to a backdrop of Villa Park in the video for the Pet Shop Boys single DJ Culture from 1991.
Ha, I love that choon but never knew that.
Looks like Highbury to me so sadly may not be true.
It's at 3:43 where you can see the V of the old AV floodlights. Highbury is the earlier section with the dancers in the red and white striped shirts.
https://youtu.be/Mbprblx2s48
Cool, that's definitely VP in that bit. Just a shame it wasn't the Holte behind him.
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Stretching the definition of the original post but here's the future President laughing at a joke about Doug Ellis
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On the scripted show called Love Island Iain Stirling and Maya Jama make constant references to the Villa.
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You're actually taking the piss now, aren't you?
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On the scripted show called Love Island Iain Stirling and Maya Jama make constant references to the Villa.
Are you lot going for the maximum break?
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There is a Colvin Quarmby song featuring the lyric ' an Aston Villa mug' frustratingly I can't remember the title !
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Was looking for this thread the other night when Douglas Luiz got a mention on Corrie!
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There's an ad over here and in the background you can hear 'The Villa boys of Aston' being sung. No idea what it's for but will try (half-heartedly) to discover what it is.
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Neil Tennant dressed as a referee is super-imposed on to a backdrop of Villa Park in the video for the Pet Shop Boys single DJ Culture from 1991.
Ha, I love that choon but never knew that.
Looks like Highbury to me so sadly may not be true.
It's at 3:43 where you can see the V of the old AV floodlights. Highbury is the earlier section with the dancers in the red and white striped shirts.
https://youtu.be/Mbprblx2s48
Cool, that's definitely VP in that bit. Just a shame it wasn't the Holte behind him.
Probably not why they used Highbury, but PSB's Chris Lowe is an Arsenal fan.
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Was looking for this thread the other night when Douglas Luiz got a mention on Corrie!
I mentioned it in the Telly thread in Off Topic.
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Apologies if already mentioned but the novel "Oi! Ref" by Joseph Gallivan written in 1997 is all about a top flight referee who used to be a Villa "hooligan". I haven't read the book for 20 years but if memory serves he makes regular trips back to Birmingham from London to revisit old haunts and reflect back on his years following Villa. I think some of his memories are based on actual incidents but I'll have to leave that for others to verify. I'm testing my memory but the finale is about his dilemma refereeing an important match between Villa and Rangers. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/6216867
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I don't know if anybody has mentioned this, but in The Good Karma Hospital Paul Smart (Philip Jackson) wears a 1982 Villa shirt in several episodes www.imdb.com/title/tt6441720/mediaviewer/rm3592774144
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Wasn't sure where to post this: That bloke trying to get a movie about the 1980-81 season has released a promotional trailer: &t=5s
Surprised it hasn't generated more of a buzz to be honest
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Villa get a passing mention in Aldous Huxley's debut novel Chrome Yellow. Something like someone reading the sports pages looking for the scores for Spurs or The Villa...
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Wasn't sure where to post this: That bloke trying to get a movie about the 1980-81 season has released a promotional trailer:
Surprised it hasn't generated more of a buzz to be honest.
Saw a report on that on Midlands Today. With a budget of 200k I fear it may not be very good despite the subject matter.
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Well, judging by those scenes it looks over-acted with a clichéd story and ropey dialogue. But it's Villa and 1980 so I can't wait to see it in full!
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Thought I'd heard what I wanted to hear but found this little snippet in the Martin Sheen Film 'The Way':
Tom: Christ! You're a bore!
Jack: I beg your pardon?
Tom: An arrogant bore.
Jack: Well! There you have it - proof once again that Americans can't hold their liquor - ho ho!
Joost: Says the man with the Aston Villa badge on his bag!
Unsure what it's trying to imply about Villa fans, but I'll always love hearing Villa mentioned in unlikely places.
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Tonights Ted Lasso
Premiership Table.
!. Man City 37
2. West Ham 35
6. Chelsea 27
7. Aston Villa 28
9. AFC Richmond 24
10. Newcastle 20
I'm sure the technically more adept could do a suitable screengrab.
Good we feature in a programme that was filmed possibly a year ago.
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West Ham 2nd? I know it's a work of fiction and all, but even so.
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They are there because it is part of the ongoing storyline where certain people who have appeared in the show are now at that club in different capacities. I suspect the money grabbers jumped at the chance to be paid for filming locations at the ground.
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How are Harchester doing?
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Chelsea in the European places!
As if!
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Villa with a point more than Chelsea but a place lower.
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The low point is always the association to the Villa and love island
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
An underrated show, Cuckoo.
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Just started second Reacher book - Milosevic, Yorke, Johnson and McGrath!
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
An underrated show, Cuckoo.
Never seen it, but all this makes me sure it's morally unimpeachable and good for the universe.
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Weren't we the only team to score against Steeple Sinderby Wanderers on their way to winning the FA Cup in J L Carr's novel?
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Sure it’s been mentioned but ford v Ferrari ( one for John e as he enjoys Le Mans)
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
There's two of them (went to same school as me), done quite well for themselves.
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Bless her soul.
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Apologies if already mentioned but the novel "Oi! Ref" by Joseph Gallivan written in 1997 is all about a top flight referee who used to be a Villa "hooligan". I haven't read the book for 20 years but if memory serves he makes regular trips back to Birmingham from London to revisit old haunts and reflect back on his years following Villa. I think some of his memories are based on actual incidents but I'll have to leave that for others to verify. I'm testing my memory but the finale is about his dilemma refereeing an important match between Villa and Rangers. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/6216867
Haha he was with us in Juve 1983 ....we stopped in Nice and took the train to Turin .....
The good Old Britannia pub ....
That's all I am saying
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Bless her soul.
Seconded. I miss her.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
An underrated show, Cuckoo.
I think it was for the first 2 series, by the end of the 3rd I was out. Didn't realise it it had another 2. Greg has been a villa fan twice now but he really hates football in real life.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
An underrated show, Cuckoo.
I think it was for the first 2 series, by the end of the 3rd I was out. Didn't realise it it had another 2. Greg has been a villa fan twice now but he really hates football in real life.
Yeah, I think Taylor Lautner did a good job, but it never recovered from losing Andy Samberg.
Still perfectly enjoyable, though.
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
An underrated show, Cuckoo.
I think it was for the first 2 series, by the end of the 3rd I was out. Didn't realise it it had another 2. Greg has been a villa fan twice now but he really hates football in real life.
Yeah, I think Taylor Lautner did a good job, but it never recovered from losing Andy Samberg.
Still perfectly enjoyable, though.
The cat episode whilst a total rip off of peep show’s infamous dog episode is the best. Plus the girl from cov in it is wonderful
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Comedy characters supporting us:
Jim Hacker (Yes, Minister)
Lennie Godber (Porridge)
Greg Davies in that odd sit com, Cuckoo (think it is called that)
Curiosity being what it is I went back to page 1 of this thread and found this, notable because I recently met the creator of Cuckoo and can confirm he's a Villa fan.
An underrated show, Cuckoo.
I think it was for the first 2 series, by the end of the 3rd I was out. Didn't realise it it had another 2. Greg has been a villa fan twice now but he really hates football in real life.
Yeah, I think Taylor Lautner did a good job, but it never recovered from losing Andy Samberg.
Still perfectly enjoyable, though.
The cat episode whilst a total rip off of peep show’s infamous dog episode is the best. Plus the girl from cov in it is wonderful
I do have a crush on Esther. Trying is alright on Apple+, her being on it helps and I love hearing her accent on a 'mainstream' show. I like to wonder what the yanks are thinking watching it.
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Haha, some good ones in that!
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
You got that far already? We do get mentioned first thing in the episode after the Dutch friendly as well.
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
You got that far already? We do get mentioned first thing in the episode after the Dutch friendly as well.
I've missed a few along the way as have been working while SWMBO binges.
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They Spank us 3-0 on the run in .
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
You got that far already? We do get mentioned first thing in the episode after the Dutch friendly as well.
I've missed a few along the way as have been working while SWMBO binges.
Some of the best scenes are in the 2nd season. Xmas one with Roy and Keeley looking after the niece, Coach Beard after the FA Cup final, the funeral one.
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
One Aston Villa!
There are only one Aston Villa!
Yeah, makes sense.
Did you see the Spanish article that said ‘is’?
Bloody Americanisms.
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Percy you are making a spectacle of yourself for no reason.
We all agree, Aston Villa are magic.
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We all agree
Not quite.
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Is it 'is' or 'are'?
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'Aston Villa', the institution, is a proper noun, and therefore 'is' would be appropriate eg. "Aston Villa is the greatest football club in the world".
'Aston Villa', the players, staff & fans who represent the institution, is a collective noun, and so 'are' is appropriate eg. "Aston Villa are the 2025 Champions of Europe".
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'Aston Villa', the institution, is a proper noun, and therefore 'is' would be appropriate eg. "Aston Villa is the greatest football club in the world".
'Aston Villa', the players, staff & fans who represent the institution, is a collective noun, and so 'are' is appropriate eg. "Aston Villa are the 2025 Champions of Europe".
Quite, so when the club announces a signing, it’s not the players, staff and fans announcing it. It is the club, as referred to on a Spanish outlet the other day as ‘the English entity’, and it is delighted to announce it.
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I don't care. I like are.
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I'm just citing residual knowledge from University, which I finished 11 years ago, so I'm no authority!
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When the club announces a signing it is the manager, the DOF, the board, the marketing team, and Doris the tea lady so I can use 'are'. If Percy wants to use is in this instance he can but I can use are. Because I choose to. :-)
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I don't care. I like are.
Same here, mate.
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
You got that far already? We do get mentioned first thing in the episode after the Dutch friendly as well.
"Richmond have beaten Aston Villa 3-0".
That annoyed me. Plus SWMBO actually chortled.
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Pete Way (R.I.P) bassist of rock band U.F.O was a big Villa fan. On his solo album 'Amphetamine' was a track 'Hangin' out' which had the line ' I'll be down the Villa or I'll be down the pub'
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Aston Villa are* sixth in the table in Ted Lasso 'season' 3 episode 3 "4-5-1", the one where 'Zava' arrives.
*Are, not is.
You got that far already? We do get mentioned first thing in the episode after the Dutch friendly as well.
"Richmond have beaten Aston Villa 3-0".
That annoyed me. Plus SWMBO actually chortled.
That's exactly the sort of thing my Mrs would do in that situation.
She'd probably say, "See, you're even shit in the world of fiction".
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Pete Way (R.I.P) bassist of rock band U.F.O was a big Villa fan. On his solo album 'Amphetamine' was a track 'Hangin' out' which had the line ' I'll be down the Villa or I'll be down the pub'
My dad used to know Pete Way and I would regularly walk by him with cans in his hand. I was too young to have any idea who he was musically but I knew him as a man who liked to drink.
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He had a Villa Bass and was part of the most underrated hard rock bands of the 70's. Lived in Bearwood I believe but sadly did have a drink problem.
Alongside Terry "Geezer" Butler, another titan of the low notes, we don't have to co opt them or pretend. They are us.
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He had a Villa Bass and was part of the most underrated hard rock bands of the 70's. Lived in Bearwood I believe but sadly did have a drink problem.
Alongside Terry "Geezer" Butler, another titan of the low notes, we don't have to co opt them or pretend. They are us.
My dad loved UFO so it was odd that he became friends with him, my dad was an alcoholic though so I think that was part of the kinship. Yeah, I am from Bearwood.
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2hours 9m into Le Mans '66, lad watching his dad race on tv is wearing a 1961 home shirt.
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2hours 9m into Le Mans '66, lad watching his dad race on tv is wearing a 1961 home shirt.
In real life "his dad" was born in Sutton. Went to Bishop Vesey. Was purportedly a Villa fan.
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2hours 9m into Le Mans '66, lad watching his dad race on tv is wearing a 1961 home shirt.
In real life "his dad" was born in Sutton. Went to Bishop Vesey. Was purportedly a Villa fan.
I thought Christian Bale, in that film, gave the best portrayal of a Brummie accent I've seen on screen from anyone not from Birmingham.
He seemed to realise that the mistake most people make is they try too hard, they make it too extreme, whereas the vast majority of people in the West Midlands have a sort of soft, slightly inflected, stretch vowelled accent.
Actors always seem to think the best way to do it is to go for Carl Chinn.
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2hours 9m into Le Mans '66, lad watching his dad race on tv is wearing a 1961 home shirt.
In real life "his dad" was born in Sutton. Went to Bishop Vesey. Was purportedly a Villa fan.
I thought Christian Bale, in that film, gave the best portrayal of a Brummie accent I've seen on screen from anyone not from Birmingham.
He seemed to realise that the mistake most people make is they try too hard, they make it too extreme, whereas the vast majority of people in the West Midlands have a sort of soft, slightly inflected, stretch vowelled accent.
Actors always seem to think the best way to do it is to go for Carl Chinn.
How do the Peaky Blinders get on? I've never seen it.
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Mostly miss, or at least in the first few seasons. I didn't watch it later on.
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Mostly miss, or at least in the first few seasons. I didn't watch it later on.
That's a shame, people do really seem to struggle with the accent without making it a caricature.
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Mostly miss, or at least in the first few seasons. I didn't watch it later on.
That's a shame, people do really seem to struggle with the accent without making it a caricature.
Cillian Murphy was okay at the end.
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Mostly miss, or at least in the first few seasons. I didn't watch it later on.
That's a shame, people do really seem to struggle with the accent without making it a caricature.
Cillian Murphy was okay at the end.
Yeah, from the bits I've seen, Murphy does okay. Not perfect, but he doesn't ham it up.
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Actors always seem to think the best way to do it is to go for Carl Chinn.
How do the Peaky Blinders get on? I've never seen it.
Murphy was okay. Arthur - his brother - was definitely going for the 'full Midlander' and ended up being a bit yam-yam.
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The Strain - Season 1 Episode 10.
Villa tea cosy.
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The Strain - Season 1 Episode 10.
Villa tea cosy.
Strain. How apt!
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Actors always seem to think the best way to do it is to go for Carl Chinn.
How do the Peaky Blinders get on? I've never seen it.
Murphy was okay. Arthur - his brother - was definitely going for the 'full Midlander' and ended up being a bit yam-yam.
I thought the bloke playing Arthur did an ok job tbh and Cillian Murphy did well as it went on. They didn’t make the mistake of going semi Black Country which is what so many non brummies trying to do the accent do. Brummie is deeper and quicker than the Black Country accent. Far less draaaawwwn ooout like we’ve had a lonotomy, than we see in most TV/film