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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on July 12, 2022, 05:31:52 PM
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Sunday 17th July 05:35 KO
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I must confess to being a little concerned about this one. Leeds you’d think would be the least suitable team in the world, other than perhaps Athletico Madrid, to play a pre season ‘friendly’ against. I’ll just be pleased if they all come off in one piece and I’d say for fucks sake don’t play Bailey.
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or Coutinho. Gordon Cowans and Real Zaragosa springs to mind.
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Concerned about the number of Leeds fans that may be in attendance to be honest.
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Was just about to echo those comments Ads,
Sure our Fred will be along soon to back this thought up too…..
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Concerned about the number of Leeds fans that may be in attendance to be honest.
I'm too scared so I'm not going to this one.
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Point is, is the stadium big enough to accommodate all Leeds fans who will be there?
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Probably not, but no doubt they'll have a few arrested before the game to thin the numbers out.
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Raphina has joined Barcelona so at least he won't be involved. I think they are a lot weaker without him and Phillips. We will win this however many Leeds fans attend. And we've had the off Australian ourselves in our past.
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Villa won't be drinking at the billabong in town.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
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Point is, is the stadium big enough to accommodate all Leeds fans who will be there?
The continent's barely big enough never mind the stadium.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
They all live in Cairns, the toffs.
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It's being moved to the MCG to accommodate Leeds.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
They all live in Cairns, the toffs.
There are no toffs in QLD, only cashed up bogans. And QLD wine is for the staff and unblocking drains.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
They all live in Cairns, the toffs.
Have you been to Cairns!!
More like Port Douglas.
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So if any Australian Villa fans are going, Villa are hosting their fans at Darling and Co bar, 157 Given Terrace, Paddington (very close to the ground). Special guests including a Q & A with Chris Price.
It will probably be completely full of Leeds fans though.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
They all live in Cairns, the toffs.
Have you been to Cairns!!
More like Port Douglas.
Noosa darling. As I was saying to Chris Hemsworth over a coffee at Moonstruck, I hate namedroppers.
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Have you been to Cairns!!
More like Port Douglas.
Noosa darling. As I was saying to Chris Hemsworth over a coffee at Moonstruck, I hate namedroppers.
How was dinner with Kylie when she was over filming the 'Neighbours' finale?
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Unfortunately I had a prior engagement with Cate.
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When accused of namedropping Germaine Greer allegedly replied, "I can't help it if all my friends are famous."
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Unfortunately I had a prior engagement with Cate.
In your imagination, there was a complication.........You were so unlucky, lucky, lucky, lucky.
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“Anwar El Ghazi is going to have his first child, so didn't make sense for him to be so far away"
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“Anwar El Ghazi is going to have his first child, so didn't make sense for him to be so far away"
I didn't even know he was pregnant.
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“Anwar El Ghazi is going to have his first child, so didn't make sense for him to be so far away"
I didn't even know he was pregnant.
It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
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“Anwar El Ghazi is going to have his first child, so didn't make sense for him to be so far away"
I didn't even know he was pregnant.
It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
Christ Clampy, don't start that in here.
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...and I'll bet none of the Leeds fans leave early to miss the traffic either.
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“Anwar El Ghazi is going to have his first child, so didn't make sense for him to be so far away"
I didn't even know he was pregnant.
It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
Christ Clampy, don't start that in here.
God no.
I wonder if it's a boy, or a girl, or whether the parents will choose whatever they fancy.
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Priti Patel has ceased deportations to Rwanda…full of Leeds.
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Priti Patel has ceased deportations to Rwanda…full of Leeds.
Leeds would have deported more.
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There were over 52K fans at Suncorp last night for the State of Origin League game.
Leeds will probably have double that amount of support on Sunday.
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Gerrard said in pre-season friendlies he'll try different things, to tweak certain things and have players adapt.
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Hope he doesn't do what Liverpool did v Manure and try to play 3 teams in one game. By all accounts over 30 players used!!!!
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Hope he doesn't do what Liverpool did v Manure and try to play 3 teams in one game. By all accounts over 30 players used!!!!
But early in preseason is exactly the time to do those things
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Hope he doesn't do what Liverpool did v Manure and try to play 3 teams in one game. By all accounts over 30 players used!!!!
He's already said the players aren't ready for more than 45 mins, so I'd expect to see at least 20 players used. Maybe more, but I'd expect the core first-team squad to be getting at least a half each.
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Hope he doesn't do what Liverpool did v Manure and try to play 3 teams in one game. By all accounts over 30 players used!!!!
He's already said the players aren't ready for more than 45 mins, so I'd expect to see at least 20 players used. Maybe more, but I'd expect the core first-team squad to be getting at least a half each.
Aren't ready for 45 minutes? Dean Smith once said.
"I'm still yet to see a player carried off the pitch with exhaustion!"
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He did, more than once and I remember cringing at it.
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He did, more than once and I remember cringing at it.
That was exactly my reaction too, cringe-worthy at the time (acknowledging his many other good points). Dean often seemed reluctant to rest and rotate. Whilst true that nobody collapsed and had to be stretchered off, equally, results went steadily downhill. Hopefully with 5 subs and a different crew in charge, this year we use our squad to its fullest.
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Only being able to play for 45 minutes, that would be the same as every game last season for most of the team
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Only being able to play for 45 minutes, that would be the same as every game last season for most of the team
I kept finding myself last season thinking we weren't fit enough as a team to play like we were trying to play. I think the manager thinks this too.
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When he says they're only fit to play 45 minutes, he probably means they're only fit enough to play 45 minutes to the levels he expects, at a higher intensity.
In 20/21, I think the stats had us as one of the sides who ran the most yet in 21/22 (under Smith) we had dropped down to being one of the sides that ran the least. When Gerrard came in, this did increase but a full pre-season does give him chance to get them to the levels he wants.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
They all live in Cairns, the toffs.
Have you been to Cairns!!
More like Port Douglas.
I saw Alf from Home and Away drinking in a bar in Port Douglas 20 years ago. You flaming gallah.
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Really looking forward to this. I'm usually awake around 4am anyway, so this will give me a lie in. Got my mate coming over, full english supplies coming with the shopping tonight, and Villa mugs all round for coffee. 8)
How many are planning to be up and watching it live?
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Really looking forward to this. I'm usually awake around 4am anyway, so this will give me a lie in. Got my mate coming over, full english supplies coming with the shopping tonight, and Villa mugs all round for coffee. 8)
How many are planning to be up and watching it live?
Leeds will no doubt be making billions by selling it on their website.
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I'll be up.
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3-1 to us.
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Leeds will no doubt be making billions by selling it on their website.
We should have knocked 50p off our streaming price and undercut them.
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Australia was founded on convicts which probably explains why there are so many Leeds fans there.
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At least they haven't got 6 webbed fingers! (Oops, you're not from Wroxall). ;)
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Leeds are known as "the Mighty Whites", hardly a surprise that they're big there.
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No, as all bars in Brisbane centre are Noses territory. Villa fans will travel in from their Vineyard Estates 1/2 before kick off.
They all live in Cairns, the toffs.
Have you been to Cairns!!
More like Port Douglas.
Yes, it's posher than Brisbane! Thala Beach Lodge though and Oak Beach up in Port Douglas however is a tad posher still.
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Australia was founded on convicts which probably explains why there are so many Leeds fans there.
Just a polite reminder that there were people here a long, long, long time before Britain used the land as dumping ground for its undesirables.
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Haven’t seen a Leeds fan all day. A few Villa fans and Peter Withe! It’s the kids first game so we’re all very excited. The first Villa goal I saw live was scored by none other than Peter Withe so it’s great we could meet him.
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Great photo Max.
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Concerned about the number of Leeds fans that may be in attendance to be honest.
I hear they take more to aways than anyone else
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Haven’t seen a Leeds fan all day. A few Villa fans and Peter Withe! It’s the kids first game so we’re all very excited. The first Villa goal I saw live was scored by none other than Peter Withe so it’s great we could meet him.
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Brilliant!
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Stadium pretty much empty for Leeds v Brisbane. Leeds won 2-1
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At least they haven't got 6 webbed fingers! (Oops, you're not from Wroxall). ;)
No, from Smethwick originally, fortunately my dad had been given the family brain cells hence I ended up supporting the right team. He was from Ward End and all his family are knuckledraggers. There used to be quite a few of the darkside living in Ventnor, but most of them did migrate to the inbred capital of the island. I wonder why ;) ;) ;)
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Australia was founded on convicts which probably explains why there are so many Leeds fans there.
Just a polite reminder that there were people here a long, long, long time before Britain used the land as dumping ground for its undesirables.
Sorry, Hillbilly, you're quite right, of course. This was a clumsily worded post and I should of course have referenced Britain using Australia as a dumping ground. I apologise to you and anyone else if I have caused any offence.
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The continent was there but not the entity ‘Australia.’
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At least they haven't got 6 webbed fingers! (Oops, you're not from Wroxall). ;)
No, from Smethwick originally, fortunately my dad had been given the family brain cells hence I ended up supporting the right team. He was from Ward End and all his family are knuckledraggers. There used to be quite a few of the darkside living in Ventnor, but most of them did migrate to the inbred capital of the island. I wonder why ;) ;) ;)
I grew up in Washwood heath and Ward End, used to walk to VP every other Saturday!
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Haven’t seen a Leeds fan all day. A few Villa fans and Peter Withe! It’s the kids first game so we’re all very excited. The first Villa goal I saw live was scored by none other than Peter Withe so it’s great we could meet him.
(https://i.ibb.co/0MzLLTy/3-EBAF3-AF-4-B6-C-49-C5-B1-D1-8-FC13525-B65-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0MzLLTy)
There were 3 other Villa fans that I knew of and was talking to flying over from Christchurch this morning. Didn't see any Dirty Keeds fans and haven't seen any today in and around Brisbane.
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The continent was there but not the entity ‘Australia.’
I never knew until the other day that New Zealand had no indigenous people. Archaeology has found nothing prior to Polynesian settlement in the 14th century.
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At least they haven't got 6 webbed fingers! (Oops, you're not from Wroxall). ;)
which way did you walk ?
Down past Taronis on Aston Church road, or the long trek along the 11 route
No, from Smethwick originally, fortunately my dad had been given the family brain cells hence I ended up supporting the right team. He was from Ward End and all his family are knuckledraggers. There used to be quite a few of the darkside living in Ventnor, but most of them did migrate to the inbred capital of the island. I wonder why ;) ;) ;)
I grew up in Washwood heath and Ward End, used to walk to VP every other Saturday!
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At least they haven't got 6 webbed fingers! (Oops, you're not from Wroxall). ;)
which way did you walk ?
Down past Taronis on Aston Church road, or the long trek along the 11 route
No, from Smethwick originally, fortunately my dad had been given the family brain cells hence I ended up supporting the right team. He was from Ward End and all his family are knuckledraggers. There used to be quite a few of the darkside living in Ventnor, but most of them did migrate to the inbred capital of the island. I wonder why ;) ;) ;)
I grew up in Washwood heath and Ward End, used to walk to VP every other Saturday!
I walked down Aston Church Rd. Lived in Malthouse Lane next to the off licence!
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What time is kick off? U.K. time? I’m in JA but can work it out from there.
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5.35am
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I never knew until the other day that New Zealand had no indigenous people. Archaeology has found nothing prior to Polynesian settlement in the 14th century.
(Kiwi here.) This is why NZer's flip out a bit when they visit Europe - our birds have been around so long they forgot how to fly, but people haven't. Oral history and some evidence has it possible a bit earlier, though the 'big' (ie. important) wave was probably no earlier than as you mentioned.
Either way those Polynesian sailors were mad f*ckers and/or crazy skilled.... sailing across the pacific just following stars and currents.
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5.35am
Cheers Lee.
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The continent was there but not the entity ‘Australia.’
I never knew until the other day that New Zealand had no indigenous people. Archaeology has found nothing prior to Polynesian settlement in the 14th century.
That's because it's like Scotland, but far away
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Wait, there's a New Zealand?
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At least they haven't got 6 webbed fingers! (Oops, you're not from Wroxall). ;)
No, from Smethwick originally, fortunately my dad had been given the family brain cells hence I ended up supporting the right team. He was from Ward End and all his family are knuckledraggers. There used to be quite a few of the darkside living in Ventnor, but most of them did migrate to the inbred capital of the island. I wonder why ;) ;) ;)
I grew up in Washwood heath and Ward End, used to walk to VP every other Saturday!
Dad used to tell the story that he used to get the the bus to VP from Bromford Road in the tears after the war and there would usually be a couple of the players on the bus. Different times.
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Wait, there's a New Zealand?
I didn’t even know there was an old one.
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It's how stereotypical Germans in World War Two films say "The Land".
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3 nil to us Danny, Ollie and JJ
You heard it here first
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Just realised this is on in the early hours of the morning.
Wow.
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Just leaving now, Come on you Lions.
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Just realised this is on in the early hours of the morning.
Wow.
I thought the same for me, but then the idiot I am, realised I'm not in England :D
It's basically a lunch time kick off for me.
Enjoy OzVilla! Was really hoping to fly out to Brisbane for this, but bastard work got in the way!
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Just met the legendary Peter Withe in the pub, near to Suncorp. It's made my year.
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Just met the legendary Peter Withe in the pub, near to Suncorp. It's made my year.
That's brilliant, mate.
Am looking forward to watching this today with a lunchtime beer.
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Paid for subscription. It's yet to actually work 😂
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A strong lineup!
Morning everyone. 8)
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Good morning almost from Toronto. It’s 11.56pm. Good line up. Emi Martinez not featuring tonight. Nothing suspicious. Same with Bert and Ludwig
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I set my alarm for 5:15am but I was awake even earlier. Surely my body clock wasn’t actually excited for this game was it? Anyway good morning and up the Villa.
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Subscription working now. 1:10pm here so good afternoon all!
Uber ****** Bamford captain for them. We should be beating them anyway.
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Morning all!
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God it's early
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Getting a taste of what we go through for the actual season :D
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Coffee in hand. It's 6.33..Come on you Villa boys!
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G'day Villans.
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Bailey is sloppy with the ball.
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Not a great start so far. Keep giving ball away which I thought was the one thing we would sort out
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Yeh all a bit messy and we are not doing any kind of job keeping the ball and moving as a unit forward, or back when we don’t have it.
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Nice work by Kamara. Got back quickly to break up their attack
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I think the ref left his whistle in the changing room
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Perfectly good shoulder charge by Bailey.
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Me being the optimist I was expecting to see a different Villa this season ie keeping the ball, no aimless long balls and better pressing - but it’s the same as last year so far. Early days though
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That pitch looks like it has had sheep grazing on it.
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It’s been much better last little bit. We have been the better side. The right side has given us some joy with Cash and Bailey playing quite well.
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That pitch looks like it has had sheep grazing on it.
Mainly a rugby pitch innit. It’s not very good.
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How did their keeper do in his GCSE exams?
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Kamara strolling about like he owns the place. Looks good
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Morning! Any score yet please?
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Morning! Any score yet please?
Nope. And no shots on goal either. But we have had the better of the early exchanges. But nothing to get excited about
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Thanks TV.
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Good save from Olsen
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Good stop by Olsen.
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Oooh good save from Olsen from Dan James. Corner Leeds
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Penalty for us.
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Penalty Villa
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Penalty!
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Don't fuck it up!
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Couthino missed penalty and then the rebound.
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FUCKING HELL
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Bloody hell unbelievable saves from their keeper there
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FFS!
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Stupid stuttered little run up.
Good double save though
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How the fuck did he mess up the rebound?
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Where’s El Ghazi when you need him?
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Fucking hell. How in fucks name are we not 1-0 up. Another sitter missed
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Watkins miss one-on-one with their goalie. Under some pressure, to be sure, and it was a decent save again by their goalie.
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Their keeper is having a blinder
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Fucking Gordon Banks is between the sticks! How did Watkins not score?
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Kamara is superb
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Watkins missed again
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Their keeper is having a brilliant game. Unfortunately
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We sliced them open though. More of that and we will score. Maybe.
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Watkins missed again
To be fair that was some save
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Archer would have buried that
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Fucking hell Ollie
Leeds have a lot of fans there. Scummy little shits.
Come on Villa!
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How the fuck did he mess up the rebound?
He saw the keeper moving at full speed towards the other side of the goal so went for the same corner again as the missed penalty. Still, there was a lot of a empty goal he could have tapped it into.
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Some sloppy finishing from us so far.
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Another superb save from Robin Olsen. James should have scores for them
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Another good save by Olsen. Leeds should have scored from the rebound.
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Leeds missed a good chance there.
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After crap play from Watkins again
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Ollie giving the ball away and we nearly concede
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JJ looks way too isolated out wide on the left.
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Impressed by Bailey so far.
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Ollie Watkins is far too wasteful at the top level to be a regular starter for us
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Good stuff!
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That Kristensen looks like a typical Leeds player
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We’re getting stick in arent we. Giving Leeds their own treatment. Lovely.
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That Kristensen looks like a typical Leeds player
Doesn't he just. Like a slightly hairier Senderos.
The number 8 for them will definitely be getting a few red cards this season.
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Coutinho and Bailey have lovely feet. Looking forward to seeing the pair of them playing together more often.
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Koch is perfectly named for a Leeds player too !
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Sloppy play right at the end of the half
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Impressed by Bailey so far.
Agreed. He gave the ball away three times within the first 7 min but has looked good since.
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HT 0-0. We were by far the better side. Should be at least 1-0 up if not more.
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A few nice bits of play but on the whole we are too sloppy. Probably to be expected this early in the preseason.
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We’ve got to get Bailey involved more. He can fly.
Kamara looks good. He can certainly ping a ball and seems to actually want to play DM.
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Ramsey seems to be playing deeper or wider? Can't seem to tell.
Luiz is the weak link for me. He's by no means a bad player-but where is his best position??
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I imagine both sides are glad to get to half time without any serious injuries, the ref hasn't a clue. Kamara looks the real deal, Bailey has impressed, the less said about Ollie, overall a mad first half where we missed two easy chances and a chance to calm the game down.
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Good to see that we're prepared to break down Leeds' attacking moves in their half with some judicious "mistimed" tackles - nothing nasty, but sufficient to stop them moving the ball and transitioning into attack.
Last season we were opened up far too easily when we lost the ball just inside the opposition half.
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Kamara was by far the best player on the pitch for Villa.
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Game is also on hesgoal if people haven't subscribed. No Ian Taylor co commentating, however.
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I know it’s a friendly but a few things I’ve noticed today .
Kamara looks very good and every inch the player we’ve been missing. He’s not very big through.
Bailey and Coutinho looked sharp. Cash and Digne are getting forward well as always.
Negatives - Mings looks a bit shaky and is going on late which is a sign that he is too slow into tackles. He does hate Leeds though so it may be deliberate.
JJ looks a bit lost playing a bit wider with Luiz as an 8. Not sure Luiz is dynamic enough for our midfield. Hope I’m wrong.
We are playing very good stuff but there is no real pace in the team apart from Bailey. Leeds do look a lot faster than us.
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Patchy but to be expected. You can already see what kind of team Leeds are going to be this season
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Blimey, it’s Freddie G!
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Roca and Bamford are thundercunts
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Handbags!
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Bamford is so fantastically smackable.
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Bamford is such a fanny
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Some save again by Olsen.
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Great save.
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Whoever the commentator is on my stream has mentioned a Jack Grealish at least half a dozen times so far and it’s getting on my nerves
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Bamford is so fantastically smackable.
Only getting what he deserves. Diego has his measure.
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Another penalty for us. Handball again.
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Pen!
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1-0 Ings.
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Penalty.
Goal this time, hopefully
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Love how the Leeds twat grabbed his head after handling it
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Get in Danny lad
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Goooooooooooolol! 1-0. Fuck you Leeds! UTV
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Cheating Leeds cnut holding his face.
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Yes !
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Danny Ings, cool as you like.
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Ings looks up for it
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Buendia fucked and probably having to leave the game. That was a ****** tackle in a friendly. Wankers the lot of them
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I think Emmi’s getting a bit pissed off
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We seem tougher than last season. Nice to see.
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We're dishing it out just as much as Leeds, I'd say.
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Someone is going to get seriously injured in this game.
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Gray got a taste of his medicine there. Not sure how Leeds can complain when he did the same to Buendia
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Bamford is such a tit.
Hopefully on the menu of a massive Great White this pre season.
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Poetic justice on Gray
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Leeds are the classic bullies who push it out but can’t take it back
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McGinn - the "accidental" enforcer?
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Good to see we’ve got a decent back up keeper now
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"You've been meatballed"
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Well, I think it's a bit sad to see a 16-year old being carried out on a stretcher.
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Twinkle toes Marv!
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Could be a couple of tasty matches with this lot .
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Well, I think it's a bit sad to see a 16-year old being carried out on a stretcher.
Same, hope it’s not serious.
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Well, I think it's a bit sad to see a 16-year old being carried out on a stretcher.
And me. But it’s hard to have too much sympathy when he tried to split Buendia in two a few minutes before.
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Two little fans in Liverpool shirts there. Should be evicted! :D
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Well, I think it's a bit sad to see a 16-year old being carried out on a stretcher.
It is but if hadn’t done what he did a few minutes earlier then I’m sure we would all be more sympathetic. That said I hope it’s not too bad
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So far I think Sanson has been better than Luiz
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I wish Chambers would stop giving the ball away
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Lovely play by Sanson! Looked like Gazza!
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I wish Chambers would stop giving the ball away
Yes, he's the hoof ball king.
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40,918 and I’d say 60/40 Villa.
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So far I think Sanson has been better than Luiz
Really? I think he’s been quite poor. Then again so was Luiz so you’re probably right.
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Getting really sloppy.
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Marv is looking quite tidy.
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40,918 and I’d say 60/40 Villa.
I’m watching on Leeds TV, you’d say 60/40 Leeds from this coverage
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Guilbert not getting chance to impress. Generally doing a good job of avoiding the ball
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Lovely play by Sanson! Looked like Gazza!
Are you there mate? It’s only a short swim away and all downhill😂
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So far I think Sanson has been better than Luiz
Better tattoos too.
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Lovely play by Sanson! Looked like Gazza!
Are you there mate? It’s only a short swim away and all downhill😂
Haha! I was very much up for going, but Japanese university semester doesn't finish until next Friday. Bastards!
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Diego is certainly both strong and quick.
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They're taking turns fouling Emi
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Feeney is a big lad isn’t he
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Finished, 1-0.
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Good run for the boys and a nice result as a bonus.
Time for bed, night all !
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Well done Villa. Got hacked to death especially Emi but we gave it back too. Leeds are shit.
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Leeds are going to really struggle without Philips and Raphinha. There’s not much quality there.
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Was only up in time for the 2nd half, wish I'd saved my £6.
Good save from Olsen, thought Sanson looked decent. Bad tackle by McGinn on that kid, hope he's OK, he looked pretty distressed.
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Feeney is a big lad isn’t he
He only turned 17 in May.
Gerrard obviously rates him really highly.
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Leeds are going to really struggle without Philips and Raphinha. There’s not much quality there.
I wouldn't worry too much, apparently they have £180m/200m to spend this summer. Getting players to go there is another matter.
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Was only up in time for the 2nd half, wish I'd saved my £6.
We played better in the first half though. The second half midfield did not have much joy.
We were aggressive in both halves. Too early to tell if that was simply in response to how Leeds played or whether it's something we can come to expect this season. I hope it's the latter.
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Same old with Dirty Leeds fouling. Even in a 'friendly' ffs!
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Weird to move this off the main page so quick when there’s no post match thread.
Took me a while to work out where to get a sense of how it had gone before I found it.
For a moment I thought there was no sign of this game because something awful had happened and we were never going to speak of it again!
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Weird to move this off the main page so quick when there’s no post match thread.
Took me a while to work out where to get a sense of how it had gone before I found it.
For a moment I thought there was no sign of this game because something awful had happened and we were never going to speak of it again!
Agreed. They normally get moved straightaway but then a post-match thread replaces it. Seeing as the pre-season threads seem to be all-in-one, could it be moved back mods?
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Weird to move this off the main page so quick when there’s no post match thread.
Agreed. I woke up and assumed that I'd imagined we were supposed to be playing Leeds in the early hours.
I've put it back.
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Watched it on YouTube. Very intense for a friendly so a good introduction for the new boys. Kamara looks class, great range of passing. McGinn really got himself involved after coming on. Promising signs from Leon and Carlos. Ollie a bit rusty, needs another season like his first to keep Ings and Archer at bay. Sanson good in parts but needs to toughen up. Overall some slick play in first half followed by a lot of desire in a scrappy second 45.
A good run out that makes me think we won’t be undercooked like at the start of last season.
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Me too. Got a win and no injuries. Result!
Hard to say too much from the highlights but I think the 2 first half moments were more ‘brilliant save’ than ‘bad miss’.
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So Emi wasn’t injured then? Some of the comments during the game suggested he might be.
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We are desperate for a striker
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Weird to move this off the main page so quick when there’s no post match thread.
Agreed. I woke up and assumed that I'd imagined we were supposed to be playing Leeds in the early hours.
I've put it back.
Yes. My error. Force of habit and I was still half asleep.
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40,918 and I’d say 60/40 Villa.
I’m watching on Leeds TV, you’d say 60/40 Leeds from this coverage
At the ground i was lucky enough to snare a box on the halfway line and it looked from the stand directly in front like we had far more, you could see it most when we scored. Pleasantly surprised by the overall turnout for both sides tbh.
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Just got back. Thought we ran the show without putting them away. Looked very assured at the back and both Bailey and Buendia had strong games. Kamara will need time as he seemed a bit slow to the play at times but saw enough to think he’s going to be an upgrade. Thought Sanson looked good too. The pitch was tacky and a bit bobbly which didn’t help us much. We look a long way in front of Leeds though and our strength off the bench really showed. 2 or 3-0 wouldn’t have flattered us.
McGinn would’ve been sent packing in a PL game so fortunate with that one but the ref was iffy all game on some challenges.
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Ming’s is still the go to guy, when it comes to playing out of defense. Be interesting to see whether Carlos will also take on this role, as it’s needed.
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Watched it on YouTube. Very intense for a friendly so a good introduction for the new boys. Kamara looks class, great range of passing. McGinn really got himself involved after coming on. Promising signs from Leon and Carlos. Ollie a bit rusty, needs another season like his first to keep Ings and Archer at bay. Sanson good in parts but needs to toughen up. Overall some slick play in first half followed by a lot of desire in a scrappy second 45.
A good run out that makes me think we won’t be undercooked like at the start of last season.
Spot on analysis mate!
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Did the same as Percy, thought we looked solid and played well.
Kamara looked just like his YouTube highlights video, pinging the ball all over very nicely.
Marv played well, Carlos looked solid and quick and I thought Olsen had a good game.
Nice to get the win, no injuries and a few completed 90 mins too.
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That’ll have the millions of Leeds fans well fired up for the league games.
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I watched some extended highlights - very tough to gauge but my overriding impression it was the same as last season - looked narrow and didn’t look like scoring from open play
Thought Leon looked sharp. Watkins is not the right striker for the way we now play
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That’ll have the millions of Leeds fans well fired up for the league games.
I think having had a look at social media today, those pricks have now overtaken Wolves fans as the biggest bellends on Twitter.
A bounty on Mcginn's head for a tackle? Fuck off.
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It’s good to see Bailey settling in well in pre-season.
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I always found Wolves fans on the whole to be pretty ok in the 30 odd years before they got bought out. I'm from over that way. I think it's fair to say that they didn't have a lot to brag about in that period but now they've had a bit of success, lets face it for them it's a lot of success, they have in many cases become almost as cunty as Man Utd fans. It'll be fun when they inevitable fuck it up and crawl back to the championship.
As for Leeds fans, i think they've always been a bunch of ****** haven't they?
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...the biggest bellends on Twitter.
A bounty on Mcginn's head for a tackle? Fuck off.
Taxi for the Yorkies.
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This is the tackle that they're upset about. I didn't watch the match so was assuming it was a 100 mph, two feet off the ground leg breaker. Imagine my surprise when I saw it was this instead.
https://twitter.com/AVFCPHIL/status/1548567469476163585
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I saw it live. They had to amputate ON THE PITCH; it was sickening. Thoughts and prayers are with the lad.
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This is the tackle that they're upset about. I didn't watch the match so was assuming it was a 100 mph, two feet off the ground leg breaker. Imagine my surprise when I saw it was this instead.
https://twitter.com/AVFCPHIL/status/1548567469476163585
I know - I dont think there is any intent - it looks like he is trying to use the side of the foot to avoid doing injury - but unfortunatly couldnt get the whole foot down
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Someone should post a Ben Mee tackle under the video.
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Poor challenge by mcginn possibly a sending off in our league but why play a 16 year old if he’s not physically strong enough. It’s not a party
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McGinn goes in with the outside of his foot and the lad catches his studs in the ground. Absolutely nothing wrong with the tackle at all. Really surprised he got booked for that.
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It wasn’t a great tackle and the fact that the lad had gone through Buendia 5 mins before gave it an air of retribution.
I think he’d have gone in a PL game, ref let a lot go on both sides though which didn't help. Bamford was his usual twattish self all game.
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McGinn goes in with the outside of his foot and the lad catches his studs in the ground. Absolutely nothing wrong with the tackle at all. Really surprised he got booked for that.
Take your claret and blue gigs off it was a poor challenge can’t say otherwise
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This is the tackle that they're upset about. I didn't watch the match so was assuming it was a 100 mph, two feet off the ground leg breaker. Imagine my surprise when I saw it was this instead.
https://twitter.com/AVFCPHIL/status/1548567469476163585
Jeez, was that it, didn’t even think it was a foul.
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I've seen way worse tackles than that. I doubt they'd be going as ballistic as that if it wasn't a Villa player. Silly arses.
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Foul and a yellow. That's about it. How Leeds can grumble anyway considering how their teams traditionally kick other teams around the park, i've no idea.
I think Steve has told our lot to get stuck in more, i noticed it a bit last season. I should say that he'e highlighted the point in games where the opposition are likely to try to kick us.
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That’ll have the millions of Leeds fans well fired up for the league games.
Two things. There aren’t millions of them though listening to them you’d think they are best supported team in the world. Fucking Noses of the North.
Second, the hated is last season and we absolutely fucking smashed them with bucket head as their manager. Now they’ve got some no name whiny tosser who looks like crying any time the camera shows his punchable face.
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Is there any footage that shows that lad's tackle on Buendia?
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Re: McGinn’s ‘legbreaker’.
It’s looks much worse because of the pitch. It’s clear the Leeds kid kicks the ground first which slows his momentum down and he ends up kicking the bottom of Ginny’s boot.
Decent pitch and there would be nothing to discuss.
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That's a foul and maybe a yellow, nothing more than that.
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Nobody seems to be be talking about that same Leeds kid leaving Buendia needing lengthy treatment that got him a yellow. But somehow SJM has shot and killed the kid given the reactions by that lot.
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Nobody seems to be be talking about that same Leeds kid leaving Buendia needing lengthy treatment that got him a yellow. But somehow SJM has shot and killed the kid given the reactions by that lot.
It’s fairly standard from fans though isn’t it? And you in add in on top they’re Leeds fans, then it’s hardly a surprise.
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Thought it was a yellow, but just hoping the injury is not a bad one.
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Just been through the match and saved the tackle to video so could have a look.
They both swing for the ball at the same time, their feet come down together at speed, and McGinn’s foot comes down on Gray’s heel. It’s all pace and they’re both heading into each other, so it’s a bit clumsy and you can argue both players could have thought twice before sticking their boot in there.
I think a yellow is fair, wasn’t deliberate though, certainly wasn’t revenge because McGinn doesn’t even look up from the ball to see who it is. Could easily have been Gray’s foot land on McGinn’s too.
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If anyone wants to watch it, the full 90 minutes is on Villa TV and you can forward it to about 68:40 game time to see for yourself.
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That's a foul and maybe a yellow, nothing more than that.
Yep, my thoughts. Always think it’s worth considering what you’d want if it was the other way round - McGinn fouled by the Leeds lad. With that in mind, it’s definitely a foul. A yellow seems harsh, but arguably both players overstepped what was sensible/safe so … maybe. Nothing more than that, though - it’s a bit of a nothing tackle that’s, whilst a bit reckless, wasn’t malicious or especially bad.
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If anyone wants to watch it, the full 90 minutes is on Villa TV and you can forward it to about 68:40 game time to see for yourself.
And before you do, go to 66 minutes and about 8 seconds to watch Gray crunch Buendia. It’s a much worse challenge and we were all fortunate Buendia was being carried off.
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I think even a yellow is a little harsh but it's the sort where if a yellow is given, it's easy to accept it.
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Found these extended highlights:
https://youtu.be/alEtqI63Cys
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McGinn goes in with the outside of his foot and the lad catches his studs in the ground. Absolutely nothing wrong with the tackle at all. Really surprised he got booked for that.
Take your claret and blue gigs off it was a poor challenge can’t say otherwise
Just watched it 3 or 4 times in a row. I can see how at normal pace seeing it once it might seem bad, slowed down, which is what VAR would do, its not actually a foul, he won the ball and hardly touched the man, no claret and blue specs on.
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It’s barely a foul, never mind a yellow.
https://twitter.com/JUSTIN_AVFC_/status/1548656380768313344?s=20&t=a3aLeta1Px7NOmduiLxFVg
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https://youtu.be/JNTCx5zOkoM
Full game
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If anyone wants to watch it, the full 90 minutes is on Villa TV and you can forward it to about 68:40 game time to see for yourself.
And before you do, go to 66 minutes and about 8 seconds to watch Gray crunch Buendia. It’s a much worse challenge and we were all fortunate Buendia was being carried off.
I'll be honest, I can't see much wrong with that tackle either.
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Marsch: Now Archie, what did you learn today?
Gray: That I'm better off with the U8's as I won't get hurt there. Can I go back to them please Boss?
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Wasn’t much in the tackle, just unfortunate timing and the kid getting his boot stuck. There didn’t seem to be much outrage on the pitch either. Nothing to see here.
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From the bits I have seen - we seem to be doing that thing where the “8s” dropped in behind the full backs?
Was that a what happened - and did it work?
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Only seen highlights and only a preseason friendly…….but we still seem a bit toothless up front.
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McGinn goes in with the outside of his foot and the lad catches his studs in the ground. Absolutely nothing wrong with the tackle at all. Really surprised he got booked for that.
Take your claret and blue gigs off it was a poor challenge can’t say otherwise
It's not McGinn's fault that the lad caught his studs in the ground. Had it been as bad as some think, the players would have surrounded old fat arse to give him stick. Plenty of people have also said it isn't a foul but I have claret and blue gigs on? No mate, I have played the game and understand what an accident looks like.
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Just got back. Thought we ran the show without putting them away. Looked very assured at the back and both Bailey and Buendia had strong games. Kamara will need time as he seemed a bit slow to the play at times but saw enough to think he’s going to be an upgrade. Thought Sanson looked good too. The pitch was tacky and a bit bobbly which didn’t help us much. We look a long way in front of Leeds though and our strength off the bench really showed. 2 or 3-0 wouldn’t have flattered us.
McGinn would’ve been sent packing in a PL game so fortunate with that one but the ref was iffy all game on some challenges.
Spot on I wish I was there with you. UTV
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Is there any footage that shows that lad's tackle on Buendia?
This is the tackle on Buendia.
https://twitter.com/BigmanBoubacar/status/1548610899602284545?t=6OSQYp-Vku3WL1MOiX4auA&s=19
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Heat of the moment, booth tackles we’re going for the ball but both a bit reckless. Neither player was trying to hurt their opponent so you fucking media twats just fuck off back to you slimey little hovels or wherever you come from
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Even the Leeds manager has said it was normal enough and wouldn’t even have happened with a better ref.
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From what I’ve seen although it was a friendly it certainly wasn’t played like a preseason kick about to gain a bit of fitness it was a Proper contest with both teams wanting to win Which is fine by me
I think we can always look at fouls through a claret and blue prism but I know if it was the other way around we would all be jumping up and down but that’s the way it is Football
Biggest Worry for me is still upfront
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From what I’ve seen although it was a friendly it certainly wasn’t played like a preseason kick about to gain a bit of fitness it was a Proper contest with both teams wanting to win Which is fine by me
I think we can always look at fouls through a claret and blue prism but I know if it was the other way around we would all be jumping up and down but that’s the way it is Football
Biggest Worry for me is still upfront
Up front needs sorting.
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Well I searched high and low for an old Bossie thread but it doesn’t exist so it’s going here
https://twitter.com/matkendrick/status/1548626108454768640?s=21&t=J4HO51MT_T7bEOTd5zJvOQ
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Marsch: Now Archie, what did you learn today?
Gray: That I'm better off with the U8's as I won't get hurt there. Can I go back to them please Boss?
In all seriousness that's exactly my point - if he cannot take the physicality of the men's game should be kept well away. Be interesting to know how clubs go around arranging insurance for youngster's they want to plant into the men's game.
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The Leeds player is still alive. What’s the problem ?
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Watching the game, two things stood out to me:
1) I just do not see the point of Luiz. I am not knocking his skill, but we know he is not a CDM and he looks nothing special as a more attack-minded midfielder. We are lacking dynamism in the middle of the pitch and it is a bit of a worry for me.
2) I like Watkins’ heart and desire to put in a shift, but he just is not good enough to take us where we want to go. I know that it is not easy to find clinical strikers (though we may well have one on our bench), but Watkins has proven to be a solid but unspectacular striker and I would scour the planet to find a better one (again, assuming that one is not right there waiting his turn).
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Agree on both points Pelty. Watkins is a hard worker but just not clinical enough.
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Well I searched high and low for an old Bossie thread but it doesn’t exist so it’s going here
https://twitter.com/matkendrick/status/1548626108454768640?s=21&t=J4HO51MT_T7bEOTd5zJvOQ
Ashley Preece and his rapid-fire nervous speaking...
Still, good to see Bozzie. I guess he was our Shane Warne. Wonder if he'll die of a heart attack in a Thai massage parlour too.
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Meatballs tackle didn't look too bad. Compare that with rmthe tackles on Emi and the attempted assault by Bampot on Diego Carlos. They were both a lot worse.
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Agree on both points Pelty. Watkins is a hard worker but just not clinical enough.
If he had any kind of left foot he'd have stepped left and pushed that past the goalie.
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Marsch: Now Archie, what did you learn today?
Gray: That I'm better off with the U8's as I won't get hurt there. Can I go back to them please Boss?
In all seriousness that's exactly my point - if he cannot take the physicality of the men's game should be kept well away. Be interesting to know how clubs go around arranging insurance for youngster's they want to plant into the men's game.
his ankle got caught it happens doesn’t matter what age he is it’s gona hurt
Bigger boys get injured as well or haven’t you noticed
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It does seem a bit like when Gabby shoulder charged that guy from One Direction in Stan Petrov's testimonial and he ended up throwing up. This time though the part of teenage Directioners is being played by Leeds fans.
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Marsch: Now Archie, what did you learn today?
Gray: That I'm better off with the U8's as I won't get hurt there. Can I go back to them please Boss?
In all seriousness that's exactly my point - if he cannot take the physicality of the men's game should be kept well away. Be interesting to know how clubs go around arranging insurance for youngster's they want to plant into the men's game.
his ankle got caught it happens doesn’t matter what age he is it’s gona hurt
Bigger boys get injured as well or haven’t you noticed
Yes it was a block and it happens nothing sinister it just happens especially with ankles, lets hope the lad is ok
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Leeds fans on twitter are a special kind of bitter.
But, it was an unconventional challenge by McGinn and in the follow through he did stand / stamp on the kids ankle. Not as bad as their fans make out but in my view probably not as inoccuous as ours suggest either. Although I thought yellow was probably right, I could certainly see it being a VAR red.
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Leeds fans on twitter are a special kind of bitter.
But, it was an unconventional challenge by McGinn and in the follow through he did stand / stamp on the kids ankle. Not as bad as their fans make out but in my view probably not as inoccuous as ours suggest either. Although I thought yellow was probably right, I could certainly see it being a VAR red.
I thought it was a typical McGinn use of the arse challenge, he caught him but it’s only getting any attention because he was up against a toddler.
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Wow. Talk about OTT
McGinn tackle on Leeds starlet Gray was cowardly and barbaric
DAVID COVERDALE
JULY 18, 2022
IT was an act of butchery more akin to the days when his grandfather played. Young Archie Gray must have seen footage from the 1970s, when his grandad Frank and great uncle Eddie won the title together with Don Revie’s ‘Dirty Leeds'.
But the 16-year-old has surely never been on the receiving end of a tackle that would have made even his older relatives wince. The barbaric challenge came from Aston Villa’s John McGinn in the second half of a pre-season friendly in Brisbane on Sunday. Yes, a ‘friendly’.
The Scot lunged in recklessly and late on Gray and stamped down on his right ankle, putting the Leeds lad on a stretcher and in tears. Aston Villa boss Steven Gerrard claimed McGinn was ‘unlucky in the follow through’. Pull the other one. The strange way McGinn shaped up for his cowardly tackle - leaning back and turning away - suggested this was a pre-meditated attempt to hurt a teenager rather than a genuine attempt to win the ball.
Even the commentators correctly called it for what it was, an act of retribution, coming minutes after Gray’s own strong challenge on Villa’s Emiliano Buendia, for which he did win the ball but was booked. Of course, there is something to be said for sticking up for a team-mate. But McGinn must have a screw loose if he thinks this is the way to go about it.
Doing it in the Premier League would be bad enough, but in a match with nothing riding on it on the other side of the world? Unless McGinn cares more for the Queensland Champions Cup than we are giving him credit for, he needs to have a word with himself - and so do the authorities. The midfielder may have received a yellow card on the spot. But there is no doubt he should have been sent off and banned because nobody wants to see tackles like that in the modern game.
It was no wonder Leeds boss Jesse Marsch was so incensed on the sidelines, becoming embroiled in a heated exchanged with McGinn and later accusing referee Adam Kesey of losing control of the game. The only crumb of comfort for Marsch is that, on first inspection, Gray’s injury does not seem as serious as it so easily could have been.
‘We’re hopeful that it’s not too bad,’ said the American. ‘He was in some pain initially and when they assessed it after the match they’re hopeful nothing’s broken and that it’s just an ankle sprain.’ If that initial prognosis proves to be correct, Gray - and Leeds - will have had a lucky escape. For the midfielder is one of the most promising players to have come out of the club’s academy in years.
Despite his family being Scottish football royalty, Gray - whose dad Andy also played for Leeds - captained England under-16s to a tournament win in France earlier this year. He is yet to make his competitive first-team debut for Leeds but has been on the bench, earning a place in Marcelo Bielsa’s matchday squad against Arsenal last December when he was still only 15.
His selection for the tour Down Under suggests Gray is firmly in Marsch’s thinking going into the new Premier League season. It is just to be hoped his rapid progress is not stalled by a player 11 years his senior who should have known better.
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#prayforleeds
#arsegate
#wontsomebodythinkofthechildren
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Fuck you David Coverdale, you shit Robert Plant rip off
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Leeds moaning about challenges. Someone call the irony police.
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Well, he’s a bit of a ****** isn’t he…?
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I don’t recall Norman Hunter ever asking their age before launching into a challenge on an opposing player.
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Dirty Leeds. They are what they are, fine when they are dishing it out but whinge for England if they are on the receiving end. Fuck the lot of 'em.
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At the end of last season they seemed to be having a team-wide competition to see who could commit the worst tackle and get banned for the remaining games.
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As they faced relegation, need points and all of their players to stay focused and on the pitch, Dan James was sent off for an horrific challenge against Chelsea at the start of the game. So Leeds can fuck right off.
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Cowardly and barbaric? 😂
Not sure if that's a genuine article from one of those weird obsessed Leeds fans, or someone on the wind up?
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I did see the full game yesterday evening via the link on here. I think we were good/showed promise. Olsen, Carlos and new DM from France showed that they can be outstanding. Luiz difficult to rate in that game, xlent technic and some superb getting out of no space with the ball and more but not really impose himself so much on the game totales? Had a closer look at Jacob Ramsey and was impressed with his workrate and did seem to do en xlent job defensively also good going forward with the ball and play with his teammates. Dosent sit well with McGinn to not be selected to start a game I think, as usual gave his all when came on if not more, he was good. Ings was at it. Watkins as before, his not so best to finish but with his workrate and speed he is almost a one man attack so valueable. I try not to bother with Leeds :) . Interesting season ahead.
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I have looked at it a few times and I think it was a bad tackle. Only SJM will really know how much intent there was, if you slow it down it looks like there is still down force on the tackling foot as he makes contact with the player.
Is it as bad as the article above? No. But it wasn’t great and it could easily be a VAR red.
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One thing I noticed is that none of the Leeds players immediately raced over to confront McGinn. Surely that would have happened if it had been disgusting as the Leeds fans are trying to make out
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I have looked at it a few times and I think it was a bad tackle. Only SJM will really know how much intent there was, if you slow it down it looks like there is still down force on the tackling foot as he makes contact with the player.
Is it as bad as the article above? No. But it wasn’t great and it could easily be a VAR red.
Not a chance in my opinion.
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Who gives a flyin' fiddlers what Leeds think? They're known for one thing and one thing only. You reap what you fucking sow.
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Their shitty club, shitty ground and throwback neanderthal fans are stuck in the 1980s.
Fuck them.
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I have looked at it a few times and I think it was a bad tackle. Only SJM will really know how much intent there was, if you slow it down it looks like there is still down force on the tackling foot as he makes contact with the player.
Is it as bad as the article above? No. But it wasn’t great and it could easily be a VAR red.
I’d quite like to see you sprint to beat someone to the ball and bring your leading foot down without force.
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I have looked at it a few times and I think it was a bad tackle. Only SJM will really know how much intent there was, if you slow it down it looks like there is still down force on the tackling foot as he makes contact with the player.
Is it as bad as the article above? No. But it wasn’t great and it could easily be a VAR red.
I’d quite like to see you sprint to beat someone to the ball and bring your leading foot down without force.
In the beginning the Leeds player s foot where planted om the grass, then Mc ginn s foot came on it from above with some force, kind of a stamp. Free kick an yellow card not totaly wrong either.
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I have looked at it a few times and I think it was a bad tackle. Only SJM will really know how much intent there was, if you slow it down it looks like there is still down force on the tackling foot as he makes contact with the player.
Is it as bad as the article above? No. But it wasn’t great and it could easily be a VAR red.
I’d quite like to see you sprint to beat someone to the ball and bring your leading foot down without force.
In the beginning the Leeds player s foot where planted om the grass, then Mc ginn s foot came on it from above with some force, kind of a stamp. Free kick an yellow card not totaly wrong either.
Yes, he purposely put his foot down, not to stop himself as he collided with another person, but solely out of malice. I can’t understand why he didn’t just dissipate his momentum into the ether like many on here would have done, or perhaps phased the molecules in his leg to pass harmlessly through solid objects.
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I have looked at it a few times and I think it was a bad tackle. Only SJM will really know how much intent there was, if you slow it down it looks like there is still down force on the tackling foot as he makes contact with the player.
Is it as bad as the article above? No. But it wasn’t great and it could easily be a VAR red.
I’d quite like to see you sprint to beat someone to the ball and bring your leading foot down without force.
I played enough to know the difference.
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There were people on here justifying The Neil Taylor tackle so some of the comments are not surprising.
If it had been on a young Villa player the reaction would be the opposite.
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There were people on here justifying The Neil Taylor tackle so some of the comments are not surprising.
If it had been on a young Villa player the reaction would be the opposite.
Yes, they’re exactly the same. And everyone who disagrees with you is biased, obviously.
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There was shit all in that tackle, and there's reasons why most teams don't give 16 year old games against other super fit and strong competitive athletes in contact sports.
Fucking Leeds twats. Like a whole club of Karens.
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There were people on here justifying The Neil Taylor tackle so some of the comments are not surprising.
If it had been on a young Villa player the reaction would be the opposite.
The Neil Taylor challenge was on a different stratosphere in terms of filth. McGinn's was a little naughty in terms of leaving one on an opponent but he didn't really fly in there (as he can do on occasion).
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There was shit all in that tackle, and there's reasons why most teams don't give 16 year old games against other super fit and strong competitive athletes in contact sports.
Fucking Leeds twats. Like a whole club of Karens.
especially from a football club who supporters thrive on getting stuck in
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"Gray’s injury does not seem as serious as it so easily could have been"
Van Persie could have died level of venom in that article.
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There were people on here justifying The Neil Taylor tackle so some of the comments are not surprising.
If it had been on a young Villa player the reaction would be the opposite.
Yes, they’re exactly the same. And everyone who disagrees with you is biased, obviously.
I didn't think there was much in Gray's tackle on Buendia either, sometimes players are just a split second late and catch their opponent.
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Whilst they may not be in the pantheon of some past Leeds sides, there’s no doubt that the current crop thrive on an aggressive approach with some sh*thouseary thrown in (see Bamford and that lad that did a Rivaldo to try and avoid the second penalty just in this game alone). Their fans love it. They want their team doing it. Villa under Gerrard respond aggressively and the clutching of pearls is laughable. Nobody wants to see a young lad get hurt but in the context of the game at close to an hour, was it really sensible of Ted Laso to bring him on in the first place? And further, which team is setting the tone for that environment -with some help from the officials and the player himself-because a lot of us see Villa most weeks and we know what the norm is.
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Face it, if Gray wasn't blubbing like a baby would anybody give a shit? The damage was done before SJM got near him, see the lumps of pitch he dug up before.
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The Leeds fan reaction to this has been utter bollocks. McGinn slightly miss times the tackle, nothing more.
The Bamford slash at Carlos was way worse.
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I still can't quite get over the attendance and level of support, there were Villa everywhere, I don't know what I was expecting but not over 40k. It was really weird hearing Villa songs sang in an Aussie accent too.
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I still can't quite get over the attendance and level of support, there were Villa everywhere, I don't know what I was expecting but not over 40k. It was really weird hearing Villa songs sang in an Aussie accent too.
It was a great weekend mate. I got home to NZ very late last night and I am still buzzing. I did not expect that level of support for Villa, there were far more Villa fans than Leeds. I met guys from all over NZ and Australia over the weekend. It was an amazing weekend with the only downside of the weekend being Cam Archer not playing. I was looking forward to seeing him rip Leeds apart.
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When we visited Australia 10 years ago we met Villa fans everywhere we went so I wasn’t surprised at how it turned out.
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Just watched the game on VillaTV. I still feel the same way about TM as people feel about OW. Both good guys but just lacking what it's needed to take us forward. The casual attitude that puts others in trouble is so infuriating. Chambers seems much more composed but probbly lacks the height/physical presence...
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I don't think TM will be a guaranteed starter anymore. Diego Carlos can play left side if Mings is making too many mistakes. If he does, there might be a decision to be made next summer.
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The Leeds lad Archie Gray is ok, he's back training and hopeful of playing in their next match on Friday, which is great news.
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The Leeds lad Archie Gray is ok, he's back training and hopeful of playing in their next match on Friday, which is great news.
That’s good! Won’t make a difference to all the idiots calling for McGinn to be sorted out when we play them at Elland Road.
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It might distract them from racially abusing Mings all game, as usual.
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It might distract them from racially abusing Mings all game, as usual.
So it will be John's turn to take the piss all game and then applaud the slab headed cave dwellers at the end of a gubbing.
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It might distract them from racially abusing Mings all game, as usual.
if they start singing about the 1966 world cup, he go into melt down , John Mcginn that is
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The Leeds lad Archie Gray is ok, he's back training and hopeful of playing in their next match on Friday, which is great news.
And they say prayers don't work and miracles don't exist. It must truly be the work of an all powerful god.
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It might distract them from racially abusing Mings all game, as usual.
if they start singing about the 1966 world cup, he go into melt down , John Mcginn that is
Leeds fans prefer to sing about finals they lost, the weirdos.
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Jesus, they’re milking this for all it’s worth:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823 (https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823)
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Jesus, they’re milking this for all it’s worth:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823 (https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823)
They named a stand after him yet ?
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Jesus, they’re milking this for all it’s worth:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823 (https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823)
They named a stand after him yet ?
The Archie Gray sponsored by Johnson’s No More Tears Stand
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Jesus, they’re milking this for all it’s worth:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823 (https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-teen-archie-grays-agent-reveals-expectations-for-premier-league-season-3786823)
They named a stand after him yet ?
The Archie Gray sponsored by Johnson’s No More Tears Stand
Ha ha, ace.