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Title: Der opposition
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 26, 2022, 05:43:57 PM
Just to be different, Robin Wilkes looks at our opponents on That Day.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2022/05/26/der-opposition/
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: LeonW on May 26, 2022, 05:51:04 PM
I think it's often forgotten by those beyond VP that not only did we win the biggest prize in European competition; we won it against an outstanding side. Look at how many of their players were playing in the 82 World Cup...and then contrast that with how many of ours went with England.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 26, 2022, 07:00:46 PM
On the subject of forgotten, go to the Bayern Munchen museum at The Allianz, not a mention of the 1982 European Cup.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: astonvilla82 on May 26, 2022, 08:42:42 PM
On the subject of forgotten, go to the Bayern Munchen museum at The Allianz, not a mention of the 1982 European Cup.
They don't like it up them you know Captain Mainwaring
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on May 26, 2022, 10:44:45 PM
They were an outstanding team and Rummenigge was something else and we were clearly the underdogs. But English teams had made the European Cup their own at that time so when Peter Withe did his thing it wasn't a surprise to this 13 year old. Always remember my dad saying when Jimmy Rimmer went off "That's it son. Bayern have this'. But when Spink made that save I just knew.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: algy on May 27, 2022, 09:05:22 AM
On the subject of forgotten, go to the Bayern Munchen museum at The Allianz, not a mention of the 1982 European Cup.
Assume it's still there, but in the Barcelona museum they have the programme commemorating the time they only lost 3-0 to the Villa.  Can only assume they're basically the Spanish version of Small Heath.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: PeterWithe on May 27, 2022, 09:21:04 AM
Always thought Paul Breitner was a left back.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: German James on May 27, 2022, 09:50:25 AM
It's "die Opposition" or, more likely, "der Gegner". Interesting piece!
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Villa Lew on May 27, 2022, 09:51:50 AM
Always thought Paul Breitner was a left back.
He spent most of his career as a left back, but in the early 80s moved to midfield.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Rico on May 28, 2022, 06:40:08 AM
Great read, and the fact that Bayern had never lost a major final beforehand makes our achievement even more impressive. Does anyone know why Bayern did not have their club badge on their shirt? Looks like they're playing in red adidas training tops.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: olaftab on May 28, 2022, 01:51:11 PM
The Bayern team was scary. I never thought for a second that we will win that match.
Back in 2012 I was lucky enough to be invited to a hospitality box at the Allianz. Bayern were playing Hanover in a Pokal match. At half time we were visited by the "twins" as called by locals. Hoeness and Rummenigge who were part of Bayern hierarchy at the time. Of course I tried hard but couldn't resist opening up a discussion about 1982 specially as it was 30 years. Amazingly they were both happy to talk. They said that they did not want to play an English team in the final and although they had belief in their own players they had a worry about "the fight".  Rummenigge said the thing that surprised Bayern players was the "huge energy and power from Aston" (as he called us)  and Pal told them at HT to go easy for the first 15 minutes of second period and then attack with full power as Aston will be "at end of match power". He said "it was surprising because your Aston were not finished after 1 hour and played at full energy".
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 29, 2022, 01:43:38 AM
Great post, Olaftab!
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: adrenachrome on May 29, 2022, 02:51:43 AM
The Bayern team was scary. I never thought for a second that we will win that match.
Back in 2012 I was lucky enough to be invited to a hospitality box at the Allianz. Bayern were playing Hanover in a Pokal match. At half time we were visited by the "twins" as called by locals. Hoeness and Rummenigge who were part of Bayern hierarchy at the time. Of course I tried hard but couldn't resist opening up a discussion about 1982 specially as it was 30 years. Amazingly they were both happy to talk. They said that they did not want to play an English team in the final and although they had belief in their own players they had a worry about "the fight".  Rummenigge said the thing that surprised Bayern players was the "huge energy and power from Aston" (as he called us)  and Pal told them at HT to go easy for the first 15 minutes of second period and then attack with full power as Aston will be "at end of match power". He said "it was surprising because your Aston were not finished after 1 hour and played at full energy".

"it was surprising because your Aston were not finished after 1 hour and played at full energy"

Ron knew a thing or two about a thing or two long before Bielsa. 
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: LeonW on May 29, 2022, 09:21:47 AM
The Bayern team was scary. I never thought for a second that we will win that match.
Back in 2012 I was lucky enough to be invited to a hospitality box at the Allianz. Bayern were playing Hanover in a Pokal match. At half time we were visited by the "twins" as called by locals. Hoeness and Rummenigge who were part of Bayern hierarchy at the time. Of course I tried hard but couldn't resist opening up a discussion about 1982 specially as it was 30 years. Amazingly they were both happy to talk. They said that they did not want to play an English team in the final and although they had belief in their own players they had a worry about "the fight".  Rummenigge said the thing that surprised Bayern players was the "huge energy and power from Aston" (as he called us)  and Pal told them at HT to go easy for the first 15 minutes of second period and then attack with full power as Aston will be "at end of match power". He said "it was surprising because your Aston were not finished after 1 hour and played at full energy".

Very interesting post Olaftab. Many of that Bayern side were in the West Germany team that reached 3 successive World Cup finals before finally wining in 1990. We beat them and it was a beautiful and under appreciated moment. It’s why we all believe and watch football.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Bad English on June 04, 2022, 10:04:05 AM
It's "die Opposition"
We certainly funeralled them.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Pete3206 on June 04, 2022, 10:49:34 AM
Villa's performance against Bayern Munich was one of the gustiest performances from a British side in European history. The Germans were not off form on the night, they just met a wall of grit and determination.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: clash city rocker on June 04, 2022, 06:46:04 PM
Oh for that in the coming season.
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: dcdavecollett on June 06, 2022, 02:13:17 AM
As I recall, it was a bit windy on the night of the game...
Title: Re: Der opposition
Post by: Rory on June 06, 2022, 02:35:48 AM
I wish I'd been alive.
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