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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on May 26, 2022, 05:00:40 PM
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Reached an agreement. Another one in! We aren't fucking around.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1529854749138378753?t=UbnKvQnFPVYjZ9LtXqDH8A&s=19
Welcome. Be brilliant, please.
And I beat Toronto Villa for the first time ever!
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I would describe being a Villa fan in the NSWE era as 'arousing'.
The transfer season is almost enjoyable as the actual football season.
Wow.
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Blimey!
Welcome to the best club you will every play for Diego, please be ruddy amazing.
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Emi Martinez says hello.
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Martinez?
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Great news! Another Brazilian Villain!
What about Tarkowski? Is that deal still on?
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Emi Martinez says hello.
We could do with a Uruguayan. Have we been linked with any?
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I BLOODY LOVE OUR OWNERS.
YES I AM SHOUTING !!!!!!!
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Reached an agreement. Another one in! We aren't fucking around.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1529854749138378753?t=UbnKvQnFPVYjZ9LtXqDH8A&s=19
Welcome. Be brilliant, please.
And I beat Toronto Villa for the first time ever!
LOL. Bloody coward only posting this once the OS did.
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Emi Martinez says hello.
We could do with a Uruguayan. Have we been linked with any?
Suarez.
Darwin Nunez is Uruguayan also but I'd be surprised if we got him.
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Can someone please describe what his attributes are? I read that he's 30, how is he for pace? Is he the fella Newcastle threw money at in January?
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Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Emi Martinez says hello.
oops - pressed post before I could edit.
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Reached an agreement. Another one in! We aren't fucking around.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1529854749138378753?t=UbnKvQnFPVYjZ9LtXqDH8A&s=19
Welcome. Be brilliant, please.
And I beat Toronto Villa for the first time ever!
LOL. Bloody coward only posting this once the OS did.
😄
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That's amazing. He's proper good.
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Welcome. I don't know the player, but hopefully he'll be good for Villa.
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But is he any good? Legitimate question for anyone who might know.
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Wiki page already updated 😀😀
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But is he any good? Legitimate question for anyone who might know.
Doing some quick google translates on the Twitter comments underneath the official Sevilla handle tells me their fans are none to happy he has left.
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Never heard of him to be honest. Ooh, I hope he's good.
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No messing around
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Fuckadoodledo. We’re not messing around are we?!
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Martinez?
Get Wesley back and we can open a South American steakhouse behind the North Stand.
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Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
Looks like it's the left going from this:
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There is a big opportunity this coming season for the likes of Villa & Newcastle to get amongst those clubs 4th-8th so it’s great to see us going for it - kind of the timeframe Purslow set out when we came up.
You kind of wonder if having Lange and team in place before Gerrard was brought in means recruitment wise we are just ahead of the blood money fc this window.
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Wiki page already updated 😀😀
I’m not convinced by this signing “Height 1.46 m (4 ft 9 in) “
Better let him know before signs that he’ll have to pay for entry to Peppa Pig world as he’s over 1m tall.
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When was the last time we made new signings before the end of May? I love that they will be here for pre-season.
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Jeez, we're not hanging about are we?
Clearly SG & Co have identified the weaknesses in the squad and Johan and Gang are getting them in the net good and early so that they can concentrate on shifting the deadwoo once the calendar ticks around to June 1.
At this rate we're going to need new doors at BMH such are the comings and goings.
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Welcome Diego to the greatest club on the planet.
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The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
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When was the last time we made new signings before the end of May? I love that they will be here for pre-season.
Emi Buendia last year and Kieron Richardson before him...probably.
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That's amazing. He's proper good.
Can you please elaborate?
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Hold on to your seats....
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Can someone please describe what his attributes are? I read that he's 30, how is he for pace? Is he the fella Newcastle threw money at in January?
30 next year, am hoping he's Thiago Silva like
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He has a tremendous left foot and has hit some worldy free kicks in his time. Surprised he’s still only 29.
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Can someone please describe what his attributes are? I read that he's 30, how is he for pace? Is he the fella Newcastle threw money at in January?
He's just turned 29 - 30 next March
Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
He's right footed but plays on the left, so a Mings replacement presumably.
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I'm really happy with this signing welcome to Aston Villa Diego.
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Can someone please describe what his attributes are? I read that he's 30, how is he for pace? Is he the fella Newcastle threw money at in January?
He's just turned 29 - 30 next March
Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
He's right footed but plays on the left, so a Mings replacement presumably.
Strength in depth needed as 5 subs allowed next season
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Can someone please describe what his attributes are? I read that he's 30, how is he for pace? Is he the fella Newcastle threw money at in January?
He's just turned 29 - 30 next March
Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
He's right footed but plays on the left, so a Mings replacement presumably.
Unless we receive a good offer, I think we should be keeping Mings.
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Wiki page already updated 😀😀
It is updated, but looking at stats he’s a bit small for a CB !?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Carlos_(footballer,_born_1993)
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I don't think Mings will stay. He wants to force his way into the world cup team and he's not doing that from our bench.
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The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
There are a lot of seriously bitter fans of other clubs out there. The speed at which we are doing this suggests that since he arrived Gerrard fucking blew his top at the players a few times for being...to be frank utter shit in certain games. Went upstairs. Cornered Purslow and Lange and demanded he get quality players.
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For anyone worried about "age", I'm sure Paul McGrath was round the 29 years mark when we signed him. If this guy proves half as decent a signing we're onto a winner. UTV
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
And Martinez!
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This is fantastic. I can't recall us ever having the majority of our incomings (presumably) completed before the cl final has even taken place
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Blimey!
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This is fantastic. I can't recall us ever having the majority of our incomings (presumably) completed before the cl final has even taken place
Just as well we didn't qualify, after all.
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I think we’re signing our new captain.
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Newcastle fans crying. Love it.
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The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
There are a lot of seriously bitter fans of other clubs out there. The speed at which we are doing this suggests that since he arrived Gerrard fucking blew his top at the players a few times for being...to be frank utter shit in certain games. Went upstairs. Cornered Purslow and Lange and demanded he get quality players.
The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
There are a lot of seriously bitter fans of other clubs out there.
One Newcastle fan upset that Carlos has signed for a small club rather than Newcastle ,they are seriously deluded
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The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
Well, it is after midday I suppose; bit early for me.
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Newcastle fans crying. Love it.
Some of them genuinely think Neymar is coming. Anyone have a hat I can eat?
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This another player ditching Champions League football for us.
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Hopefully these mistakes will be few and far between if it's all part of Europa League success...
Diego Carlos was part of the club's successful 2019–20 UEFA Europa League campaign. In the run up to the final, he conceded penalties in both of Sevilla's quarter-final and semi-final matches against Wolverhampton Wanderers and Manchester United respectively and then also gave away a penalty early on in the final itself against Inter Milan on 21 August 2020. He had a hand in the game-winning goal as his overhead kick was turned into the net by Romelu Lukaku.
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Emi Martinez says hello.
oops - pressed post before I could edit.
I do it all the time. And have to edit most of my posts !
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I only come on H&V to have a grumble on the politics thread, I didn’t expect this. No messing around by us!
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The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
Do you work in Downing Street? :)
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The Newcastle fan at work is pissed
Do you work in Downing Street? :)
Nobody actually works in Downing Street
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The cleaners do, lots of work
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One thing is clear, our South American contingent must be very happy and positive about the future, as he must have spoken to them.
Also Kamara said he spoke to Sanson & Digne, so even as a marginalised player Sanson must have been reasonably positive about us.
Exciting times.
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Johan Lange doesn't mess about does he?
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Welcome Diego, please settle quickly and be good.
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Two signings in four days that you'd expect the likes of Inter Milan or Atletico Madrid to have made, not the 14th placed Premier League Club.
We mean business!
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Johan Lange doesn't mess about does he?
Scandi assassin
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For those who care, which is nobody, Villa have a 4.5/5 rated squad on FIFA 22, the same as Arsenal.
I can't wait to play with Villa when Booby Kam and Diego are added 8)
We really do need to qualify for Europe next season BTW.
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Not sure about this one. He's a right big unit and uses his strength well and £26m at today's prices sounds about right. If he brought Jules Kounde with him I'd me more than happy.
Welcome, Diego. Don't be shit.
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I only come on H&V to have a grumble on the politics thread, I didn’t expect this. No messing around by us!
You're a great music champion :D
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For those who care, which is nobody, Villa have a 4.5/5 rated squad on FIFA 22, the same as Arsenal.
I can't wait to play with Villa when Booby Kam and Diego are added 8)
We really do need to qualify for Europe next season BTW.
Anyone play Football Manager? We need a screenshot of his attributes!
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Welcome to the wonderful Aston Villa, Diego!
Be brilliant!
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I only come on H&V to have a grumble on the politics thread, I didn’t expect this. No messing around by us!
You're a great music champion :D
The music and political threads are like my light and dark.
The Villa, well you just never know what it will bring!
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For those who care, which is nobody, Villa have a 4.5/5 rated squad on FIFA 22, the same as Arsenal.
Starting CB at the start of FUT next season...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTslzCpWIAApa1p?format=jpg)
Which I appreciate even fewer people will care about.
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a big big weak area for me is central defence, not the actual defending so much as the working the ball out and distribution
So the fact he’s South American suggests he has a good chance of being comfortable with the ball
At the start of the season Kane and Carlos Will both be 29 and Kane is supposably worth £150 millions
Anyway this is turning into a cracking window let’s face it it’s going to be the best one yet isn’t it
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For those who care, which is nobody, Villa have a 4.5/5 rated squad on FIFA 22, the same as Arsenal.
Starting CB at the start of FUT next season...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTslzCpWIAApa1p?format=jpg)
Which I appreciate even fewer people will care about.
83 rating? Great signing.
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i like this idea of getting the players in early and not fucking about with tentative offers late in the day.
Good stuff.
Now a centre forward please.
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This is fantastic. I can't recall us ever having the majority of our incomings (presumably) completed before the cl final has even taken place
How do we tie up this deal pre window as he’s still in contract ?
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This is fantastic. I can't recall us ever having the majority of our incomings (presumably) completed before the cl final has even taken place
How do we tie up this deal pre window as he’s still in contract ?
You can negotiate. Just can't finalise the deal until the window opens.
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Wiki page already updated 😀😀
I’m not convinced by this signing “Height 1.46 m (4 ft 9 in) “
Judging by the pic on the beeb website I think that might be his thigh measurement. He Looks a right big unit
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Blimey. Blink and you miss a signing…
What is the voodoo?
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Does he play like a cross between Diego Simeone and Roberto Carlos ?
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No, a cross between Diego Maradona and Ilich Ramirez Sanchez.
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This is fantastic. I can't recall us ever having the majority of our incomings (presumably) completed before the cl final has even taken place
How do we tie up this deal pre window as he’s still in contract ?
You can negotiate. Just can't finalise the deal until the window opens.
I wonder if many of our lot have been in talks with clubs/been tapped-up too.
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Kamara would have been free to negotiate a contract in the last six months as he was going to be out of contract - Bosman ay it.
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i like this idea of getting the players in early and not fucking about with tentative offers late in the day.
Good stuff.
Now a centre forward please.
Definitely. If they can bring in a 20+ goals season striker I will seriously start to believe we're getting somewhere. Watkins and Ings scored 18 between them which is clearly not good enough.
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Buendia
Coutinho
Luiz
Carlos
Check out our South American contingent!
Martinez?
Get Wesley back and we can open a South American steakhouse behind the North Stand.
With big Wes behind the grill hopefully
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Can he defend a 2 goal lead?
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Can he defend a 2 goal lead?
no Villa team can. That's an official PL rule also I believe.
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Can he defend a 2 goal lead?
no Villa team can. That's an official PL rule also I believe.
Set in stone like that second amendment thing
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It's why we will from next season on quickly race into 3 goal leads.
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Can he defend a 2 goal lead?
Sevilla only let in 30 goals over a 38 game season this year for a 0.79 GAA.. I would like to think he played a big part in that.
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Judging by the picture of him on the beeb, he’s a fucking giant with thighs to give the other Carlos a fright.
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Still subject to personal terms. Handchopping Beheading Homophobe Misogynist United could hijack it yet. Born in Birmingham.
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Anyway this is turning into a cracking window let’s face it it’s going to be the best one yet isn’t it
And it is hasn't even opened yet.
Judging by the pic on the beeb website I think that might be his thigh measurement. He Looks a right big unit
I thought that too, doubt many forwards will relish running into him at full pelt.
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Great news! Another Brazilian Villain!
You can never have too many of them. ;)
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Born in Birmingham.
Really?
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This guy is the real deal - wow - only niggle is someone on the way out but wow
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Diego Carlos is an excellent signing.
Here's a good article about what we can expect from him. (https://www.football-espana.net/2020/06/24/the-starring-role-of-sevilla-defender-diego-carlos)
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Born in Birmingham.
Really?
Er, no.
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Born in Birmingham.
Really?
Er, no.
Well, you never know. Any idea why he said it?
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Born in Birmingham.
Really?
Er, no.
Well, you never know. Any idea why he said it?
I thought he meant that he (the poster) was worried about the move being hijacked, and that trait of being convinced everything is going to wrong is a trait of people born in Birmingham.
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I think he was saying he was born in Birmingham, and is cursed by Brummie pessimism. Hence his suggestion that it isn't done yet and the Wahhabi Geordies could still sign the player from under our noses.
Edit: as Risso said.
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Still subject to personal terms. Handchopping Beheading Homophobe Misogynist United could hijack it yet. Born in Birmingham.
Not being hijacked. Any chance of that and the club wouldn't have announced it. Sevilla announced it too.
You can relax.
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We signed Collymore on 13 May 1997. We then went a good many years being a bit sluggish to say the least!
Looks like we really mean business. Great to see.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
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The Bellamy thing I'd completely forgotten.
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Must be a centre half on the way out, can only think it might be Mings. If we get anywhere close to £35-40m for him though it will be a good deal for us.
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Mings influence is deep though - that would be a big loss - although if you’re beaten by the big boys that’s a good replacement
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Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
Just watched a video of his 'best' highlights and he looks naturally right footed to me. So I think the answer to your question is no.
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I think he’s been bought to partner Mings.
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Great news! Another Brazilian Villain!
What about Tarkowski? Is that deal still on?
I hope Tarkowski's nowhere near VP except playing for the opposition. Having played for a team of thugs, I don't see where he fits into Gerrard's style of play
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I think we’re sig.ning our new captain.
Unless he speaks English, I'd be surprised. He needs to be able to ditch out instructions on the pitch.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I have no recollection of us announcing that, at all. He's the sort of massive arsehole we could probably have done with over the years. We've tended to be far too nice.
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I think we’re sig.ning our new captain.
Unless he speaks English, I'd be surprised. He needs to be able to ditch out instructions on the pitch.
He's going to be useful in the trenches
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I think we’re sig.ning our new captain.
Unless he speaks English, I'd be surprised. He needs to be able to ditch out instructions on the pitch.
He's going to be useful in the trenches
He's gonna build one to make sure the opposition don't score or put opposition players in there instead of in his pocket.
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Do we know if he plays on the left or the right? - is this the exit door for Mings?
Just watched a video of his 'best' highlights and he looks naturally right footed to me. So I think the answer to your question is no.
The Athletic have a piece on him today saying that he is a right-footer but plays on the left side.
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Still subject to personal terms. Handchopping Beheading Homophobe Misogynist United could hijack it yet. Born in Birmingham.
Not being hijacked. Any chance of that and the club wouldn't have announced it. Sevilla announced it too.
You can relax.
Never rule out the Saudis when it comes to hijacking anything.
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The clip I've watched shows he's got a great eye for a pass, which is encouraging
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Born in Birmingham.
Really?
Er, no.
Well, you never know. Any idea why he said it?
I thought he meant that he (the poster) was worried about the move being hijacked, and that trait of being convinced everything is going to wrong is a trait of people born in Birmingham.
Gotcha. Good point.
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I think he was saying he was born in Birmingham, and is cursed by Brummie pessimism. Hence his suggestion that it isn't done yet and the Wahhabi Geordies could still sign the player from under our noses.
Edit: as Risso said.
Makes sense, ta. I got a bit over-excited, like I do about Steflon Don being born here.
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Element of truth to this. :) https://twitter.com/AVFC_espanol/status/1529859115966775297
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Element of truth to this. :) https://twitter.com/AVFC_espanol/status/1529859115966775297
Like it:
“This man is very dangerous. His name is Johan Lange and he is possibly trying to sign a spectacular player from your team. It is very likely that there is nothing you can do to prevent it, so it is best not to offer resistance. We will keep reporting 🗞️.”
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Hold on,I’m getting confused now
I though we didn’t like Lange anymore. We did, then we didn’t, are we back on the do now?
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Hold on,I’m getting confused now
I though we didn’t like Lange anymore. We did, then we didn’t, are we back on the do now?
I think that Lange has done a good job since being in post.
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https://twitter.com/MundoMaldini/status/1529856702518001667
Julio Maldonado@MundoMaldiniKamara y Diego Carlos en tres días. El Aston Villa, actual nivel medio de la Premier. Lo de la Premier es un auténtico abuso.
Translated from Spanish by Kamara and Diego Carlos in three days. Aston Villa, current middle level of the Premier. The Premier is a real abuse.
;D
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Diego Carlos is an excellent signing.
Here's a good article about what we can expect from him. (https://www.football-espana.net/2020/06/24/the-starring-role-of-sevilla-defender-diego-carlos)
"Carlos launched a perfectly-struck long pass over the top to find Munir El Haddadi, who squared for Luuk de Jong to score. Carlos was also at fault for the equaliser, however, scoring an own goal that saw the game finish 1–1."
Clearly a like-for-like replacement for Mings.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
Only Ellis could make a statement with the words "cash offer" in it
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Well the Sevilla fans seem gutted about this so thats a good sign. (Lots of scrolling required)
https://forum.monchismen.com/t/summer-2022-transfers-conversation/1383/346
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd forgotten about that, I was in Barcelona at the time and got a text message from a Geordie work colleague, had to go and find an 'internet cafe' to check it out
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Hold on,I’m getting confused now
I though we didn’t like Lange anymore. We did, then we didn’t, are we back on the do now?
The rules are simple - we like him until we lose a game and then it’s because he signed the wrong players. See also Gerrard, S
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Still subject to personal terms. Handchopping Beheading Homophobe Misogynist United could hijack it yet. Born in Birmingham.
Not being hijacked. Any chance of that and the club wouldn't have announced it. Sevilla announced it too.
You can relax.
I never relax. When we were 3 - 1 up at Anfield, they were down to ten men because our current manager had tried to break the leg of our current under 23 coach, seven minutes of injury time announced, I turned to my sister and said (in all seriousness) 'we can get a draw out of this.' The woman in front of me turned and looked utterly bemused.
Speaking of Boating, how was a stringy, weedy looking fellow so absolutely hard as nails yet Bailey, with the build of a hulk in comparison gets injured in a moderate headwind.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
Yes, I've always had time for this misunderstood character since that.
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I don't remember the Bellamy thing at all. Who was our manager, O'Dreary? And why did Bellamy pull-out?
Re Diego Carlos...anyone who has seen him play, is he better with the ball at his feet than Mings? I still don't know whether Konsa is or not, as he shirks responsibility and plays a square ball to Mings eight times out of ten.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
Apart from Norwich and Coventry.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
Apart from Norwich and Coventry.
And Newcastle. And West Ham.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
Apart from Norwich and Coventry.
And Newcastle. And West Ham.
Sorry Im not having this, why are Blackburn exempt from this? And Cardiff!
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
Apart from Norwich and Coventry.
And Newcastle. And West Ham.
Sorry Im not having this, why are Blackburn exempt from this? And Cardiff!
I almost added them but as they're his hometown club I gave him a pass.
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That's what made the comment so great, he'd played for loads of shite clubs yet the rags were beneath that, and this was in their 'golden era' under Bruce.
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He was always a gobby little fucker. What was that celebration about in the Champions League when he swung an imaginary golf club after scoring a goal? At least clean-cut James Ward Prowse does it deservedly after another worldie free-kick.
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He was always a gobby little fucker. What was that celebration about in the Champions League when he swung an imaginary golf club after scoring a goal? At least clean-cut James Ward Prowse does it deservedly after another worldie free-kick.
He'd had one of his meltdowns at Liverpool, (John Arne Riise) and I think? threatened him with a golf club.
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Sounds familiar!
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He looks huge, quick, strong, good in the air and can pass. He's played for a really good club in Spain and dome well in Europe. Part of a mean defence too. He looks a big upgrade to me, based on the limited information I have.
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He will be an upgrade for sure but I hope it doesn't mean the end of Mings who adds more than just his position. That said, a brute like Carlos will add a bit more of something too. I think we might see a few more penalties against us looking at some of the clips I've seen on you tube.
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Still subject to personal terms. Handchopping Beheading Homophobe Misogynist United could hijack it yet. Born in Birmingham.
Not being hijacked. Any chance of that and the club wouldn't have announced it. Sevilla announced it too.
You can relax.
I never relax. When we were 3 - 1 up at Anfield, they were down to ten men because our current manager had tried to break the leg of our current under 23 coach, seven minutes of injury time announced, I turned to my sister and said (in all seriousness) 'we can get a draw out of this.' The woman in front of me turned and looked utterly bemused.
We were 5-1 up against Liverpool and then Salah scored, and I remember thinking similarly. Finally relaxed when the 7th went in.
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He will be an upgrade for sure but I hope it doesn't mean the end of Mings who adds more than just his position. That said, a brute like Carlos will add a bit more of something too. I think we might see a few more penalties against us looking at some of the clips I've seen on you tube.
Exactly my thought, he wouldn’t get away with some of those challenges in this country. Do like the look of him though.
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Especially with our refereeing!
On a lot of those clips, the referee has given him the benefit of doubt.
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Is La Liga famed for its leniency?
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Especially with our refereeing!
On a lot of those clips, the referee has given him the benefit of doubt.
I thought the same when I watched the Kamara video - a lot of the challenges from behind would be a free kick in the PL.
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Is La Liga famed for its leniency?
I don't know, but having watched quite a few European games this season it seems continental refs now let the game flow far more than the refs over here, and are a lot less card happy. It's basically gone completely opposite to how it was when I was a youngster.
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For games following South American internationals, we'll need the squad to be good enough to cover for some of our first-pick players.
Statement of the bleedin' obvious, I suppose.
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I can remember in about 1988 Doug said villa are about to make a big signing that will shock the football world. I think it's safe to say that never happened.
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I can remember in about 1988 Doug said villa are about to make a big signing that will shock the football world. I think it's safe to say that never happened.
1991. it was going to be Trevor Steven.
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Our referees seemed to be doing the same when the season kicked off. They allowed more tackles and barges and it was good. As it went on though they were less lenient and VAR steadily got worse.
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I can remember in about 1988 Doug said villa are about to make a big signing that will shock the football world. I think it's safe to say that never happened.
They were trying to sign Linekar I think, which in fairness had it come off would've done just that. It only fell down because Doug refused to subsidise the player's request for Paella in the staff canteen.
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Who was it we announced on the OS as a signing in the late Doug Ellis years, only for the transfer to then not happen?
David Unsworth?
That did actually happen, just not for very long!
Just remembered, it was Craig Bellamy from Newcastle.
I'd completely forgotten about that. The main Craig Bellamy thing I remember from that sort of era was when he was linked with the other lot and he was quoted as saying something like "I'm Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy doesn't sign for shit football clubs".
Would probably be more convincing if he hadn't signed for Coventry.
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I can remember in about 1988 Doug said villa are about to make a big signing that will shock the football world. I think it's safe to say that never happened.
1991. it was going to be Trevor Steven.
What happened, didn't he fancy playing for Ron?
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I can remember in about 1988 Doug said villa are about to make a big signing that will shock the football world. I think it's safe to say that never happened.
Was it just before season tickets went on sale by any chance?
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I can remember in about 1988 Doug said villa are about to make a big signing that will shock the football world. I think it's safe to say that never happened.
I don’t know. I watched Stuart Gray on many occasions and was usually shocked.
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I must admit he does look really decent with the ball and a real hard defender. I thought that’s what we was getting with Ron Vlaar and then again with Tommy Elphick. Although they were great characters they barely featured and didn’t seem any where near as tough as I hoped.
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I would also like Mings to stay. Would a back 3 work?
Edit: this has been fully discussed on the transfer thread.
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According to Fabrizio Romano, Diego Carlos is in the UK and has completed his medical and is ready to sign the contract. Hopefully this will be announced this afternoon.....
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Who is Fabrizio Romano going to sign for us next?
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The clip I've watched shows he's got a great eye for a pass, which is encouraging
It is but it's tempered by the fact that these are clips of him at his best. If he's an improvement in the the area he's employed then that will be good enough for me to start with, and I'm sure he will be. The passing bit can be done by those in the squad who also have the magical 'eye for a pass' with the hope they can improve massively in the execution.
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I thought Romano was supposed to be full of shit but I haven't seen him get anything wrong yet.
He says this will be announced soon and it's all done.
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I thought Romano was supposed to be full of shit but I haven't seen him get anything wrong yet.
I thought he was the ITK with the best reputation?
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As an aside, it's highly amusing to read online that this and the Kamara deal by "little 14th placed Aston Villa" signals the 'end of days' for La Liga and football teams in general across the continent.
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I thought Romano was supposed to be full of shit but I haven't seen him get anything wrong yet.
I thought he was the ITK with the best reputation?
Seems like that to me as well but I'm sure I've seen people questioning him.
Like I say hasn't got anything wrong yet though.
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I think his whole thing is getting pretty much everything right.
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I thought Romano was supposed to be full of shit but I haven't seen him get anything wrong yet.
He hardly gets anything wrong. He just takes other journalists' work and broadcasts it to a wider audience.
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As an aside, it's highly amusing to read online that this and the Kamara deal by "little 14th placed Aston Villa" signals the 'end of days' for La Liga and football teams in general across the continent.
The problem is that most of the football world don't seem to have cottoned on to the fact that we're owned by 2 guys with a combined wealth of well over £10bn who are both happy to front load on costs to make us a big team. If you remove that context then our signings in the last 6 months look bonkers and lead to those sort of comments but if you saw Newcastle make them all you'd just hear talk of how ambitious the owners are.
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Done
(https://i.ibb.co/k2GSzbm/Screenshot-20220527-161507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k2GSzbm)
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Jeez he looks like a unit.
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The fucking size of him
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Get in. He’s going to be ace.
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I hope he's the double hard nasty bastard we've needed for a few years now.
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The fucking size of him
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTsmUKeWAAMXfz1?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Wouldn't fancy knocking his pint over :o
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Well he certainly looks like what a central defender should look like
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The fucking size of him
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTsmUKeWAAMXfz1?format=jpg&name=medium)
That's a very realistic tattoo of a football on his right arm.
A beast. Love it.
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He looks like someone who ran out of fucks to give a long time ago.
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Time to remove the (subject to medical) from the thread title if you please.
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Time to remove the (subject to medical) from the thread title if you please.
change to subject to signing
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Time to remove the (subject to medical) from the thread title if you please.
Done. 🙂
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he looks younger than 29
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I've spent most of my (oh god how many now) years on this forum defending small and skillful over hulking Massive Lads who try to trap a football like someone had thrown them a moon.
And I stand by that. However, this lad...he's definitely a Big Lad isn't he? And he can pass a bit too. Good stuff.
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About time this was announced as 'official' on the AVFC Website!
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The fucking size of him
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTsmUKeWAAMXfz1?format=jpg&name=medium)
That's a very realistic tattoo of a football on his right arm.
Could cause problems if Kevin Friend spots it in our penalty area.
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Done
(https://i.ibb.co/k2GSzbm/Screenshot-20220527-161507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k2GSzbm)
Just my luck for this to be fucking photoshopped.
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I am not enamoured by Brazilian defenders unless it's Roberto Carlos. So I am going to pretend that Diego is a marauding central back who's going to rip wide holes in opposition central barricades next season.
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Well he certainly looks like what a central defender should look like
George Curtis's long lost grandson.
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Thiago Silva isn’t bad…
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The couple of Cafus we've had weren't bad either.
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He looks like someone who ran out of fucks to give a long time ago.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELbkw7kWsAEvwFw.jpg)
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
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The fucking size of him
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTsmUKeWAAMXfz1?format=jpg&name=medium)
He looks like someone who ran out of fucks to give a long time ago.
It's not uncommon to see blokes like him in Brasil. They're often Polícia Militar and appear to be made of muscle, generally not people you'd care to mess with.
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
Not sure. Did Steve Sims and Martin Keown ever play in the same team together?
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
Edit * cdbearsfan beat me to it !
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
Not sure. Did Steve Sims and Martin Keown ever play in the same team together?
Mountfield played with Sims. A more striking pair you'll not find
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Still no Official announcement?
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
Not sure. Did Steve Sims and Martin Keown ever play in the same team together?
He said handsome cd, not fugly!!
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Is that screenshot of the interview actually a photoshop or am I failing to detect sarcasm?
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
Not sure. Did Steve Sims and Martin Keown ever play in the same team together?
He said handsome cd, not fugly!!
That was the joke.
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Assuming he plays with Mings, is that up there as the most handsome central defence partnership ever?
Not sure. Did Steve Sims and Martin Keown ever play in the same team together?
Mountfield played with Sims. A more striking pair you'll not find
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Mountfield and Kent Neilsen, 80s prog rock
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Mellberg and Laursen were handsome bastards in their own way. Proper smouldering Scandi-noir before it became BBC4'd and was all the rage amongst luvvies (and those with taste).
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
Worked on Hollyoaks in that period - Gareth Barry could've had his pick of the girls there. Very popular young man at the time.
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I don't anyone should trust Eamonn's judgement of relative hunkiness given his all time man crush is a young Stephen Hendry.
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
Davis?
I’m not into men or anything, but I’d have said he looks like something out of ‘The Hobbit’.
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Yeah not sure how Davis has snuck his way onto that list.
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It also contained Craig Gargoyle and darling of the dentists Carlos Cuellar
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This seems to be dragging on since the medical yesterday and signing a contract?? Hopefully no last minute snags.....
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
You Millennials have a very skewed sense of beauty. I can only appreciate Ash and Juan Pablo in that list, others are complete turds. ;D
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Gareth Barry? He looks like one of the Easter Island heads, with a fat arse. 2/10, would not bang.
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I don't anyone should trust Eamonn's judgement of relative hunkiness given his all time man crush is a young Stephen Hendry.
Can't believe you would betray such a confidence.
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
Davis?
I’m not into men or anything, but I’d have said he looks like something out of ‘The Hobbit’.
Steve Davis plays Chesney in Coronation Street.
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
You Millennials have a very skewed sense of beauty. I can only appreciate Ash and Juan Pablo in that list, others are complete turds. ;D
On that list, I can only get behind Mellberg
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Davis? I’m not into men or anything, but I’d have said he looks like something out of ‘The Hobbit’.
Yeah not sure how Davis has snuck his way onto that list.
2022 and us gingers are still seeing that Celtophobia is rife. :(
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Davis? I’m not into men or anything, but I’d have said he looks like something out of ‘The Hobbit’.
Yeah not sure how Davis has snuck his way onto that list.
2022 and us gingers are still seeing that Celtophobia is rife. :(
I'm a ginger and he looks fuck all like me so screw him, ugly bastard.
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I'd just like to point out that I didn't determine that list, it's just the players that I observed girls fancying. When it comes to man-crushes on footballers, Tyrone is the only one for me.
Edit: I also knew a girl at university who fancied Neil Lennon, so it takes all sorts.
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Always interesting to see the direction some of the threads go in during the off-season. Now a discussion forum, mostly of men, are discussing which Villa player from the early part of century they would have shagged, married or avoided :)
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This seems to be dragging on since the medical yesterday and signing a contract?? Hopefully no last minute snags.....
Probably waiting for Gerrard and Lange to get back from the CL Final for the signing photos.
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Reading the comments, kind of a different vibe to when Joe left..
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I'd just like to point out that I didn't determine that list, it's just the players that I observed girls fancying. When it comes to man-crushes on footballers, Tyrone is the only one for me.
Edit: I also knew a girl at university who fancied Neil Lennon, so it takes all sorts.
I have a 19 year old student here who considers Putin to be her dream man. 'Only physically', she pointed out....
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Reading the comments, kind of a different vibe to when Joe left..
I guess it's because Diego isn't a total c***?
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Looks like he'll be a threat on set-pieces.
I know he plays on the left of defence for Sevilla but if Gerrard's plan is to move him to the right and play him with Mings, that's some commanding physical dominance those two would offer at corner (at both ends).
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I'd just like to point out that I didn't determine that list, it's just the players that I observed girls fancying. When it comes to man-crushes on footballers, Tyrone is the only one for me.
Edit: I also knew a girl at university who fancied Neil Lennon, so it takes all sorts.
I have a 19 year old student here who considers Putin to be her dream man. 'Only physically', she pointed out....
He's had more botox done than the whole of Essex.
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Reading the comments, kind of a different vibe to when Joe left..
I guess it's because Diego isn't a total c***?
Haha! There is that. When their official site puts out a video to thank him and hundreds of comments from fans thanking and wishing him well you know he's a gem.
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
You Millennials have a very skewed sense of beauty. I can only appreciate Ash and Juan Pablo in that list, others are complete turds. ;D
On that list, I can only get behind Mellberg
You are presuming he’s a taker not a giver?
I’ve always found the term Lucky Pierre to be greatly amusing, enhanced by Aidan Moffat of Arab Strap recording under the name. I rather liked the ‘Sometimes I feel like a motherless child’ single.
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I'd just like to point out that I didn't determine that list, it's just the players that I observed girls fancying. When it comes to man-crushes on footballers, Tyrone is the only one for me.
Edit: I also knew a girl at university who fancied Neil Lennon, so it takes all sorts.
I have a 19 year old student here who considers Putin to be her dream man. 'Only physically', she pointed out....
Geez. He has got a sexy waddle though.
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That 2005-2009 era, we were quite a hit with the ladies, from my experience. I was in my late teens at the time, and I knew girls who fancied Barry, Sorenson, Mellberg, Angel, Petrov, Ashley & Luke Young, Luke Moore, Steven Davis. We were a team full of totty.
You Millennials have a very skewed sense of beauty. I can only appreciate Ash and Juan Pablo in that list, others are complete turds. ;D
On that list, I can only get behind Mellberg
You are presuming he’s a taker not a giver?
I’ve always found the term Lucky Pierre to be greatly amusing, enhanced by Aidan Moffat of Arab Strap recording under the name. I rather liked the ‘Sometimes I feel like a motherless child’ single.
Just the 24 years since they supported B&S at the town hall gig.
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I'd just like to point out that I didn't determine that list, it's just the players that I observed girls fancying. When it comes to man-crushes on footballers, Tyrone is the only one for me.
Edit: I also knew a girl at university who fancied Neil Lennon, so it takes all sorts.
I have a 19 year old student here who considers Putin to be her dream man. 'Only physically', she pointed out....
Yikes, imagine wanting to be Putin's putain.
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Has Diego actually signed now? On Thursday the official site said he would undergo a medical before signing a contract. When Kamara signed last week he was pictured in the shirt and did interviews etc., but nothing on Carlos.....?
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Have Villa forgotten to do his shirt stretching photos or is this bloke about to Unsworth us?
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Looking forward to seeing the fella. Tbh his stats don't look sensational and sounds a bit error prone, so it will be interesting to see what he brings over and above Mings / Konsa. But he's clearly highly regarded so hopefully he'll improve us.
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Have Villa forgotten to do his shirt stretching photos or is this bloke about to Unsworth us?
Yep, the whole things gone quiet....
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Have Villa forgotten to do his shirt stretching photos or is this bloke about to Unsworth us?
Yep, the whole things gone quiet....
If I was to guess, I would say that given the 'Thanks for the memories' tweet from the offical account to Kappa, the new kit contract is probably due to start on June 1st. It would probably make sense to have him stretching the new shirt, given how close we are, so the photos are proabbly all done, they are just waiting to be able to release them.
Just putting two and two together, though - for all we know, he could have taken a walk around the city, been outraged by the lack of trams in use and hopped on a plane back to Seville.
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He's probably on holiday. I don't think he can officially sign until the transfer window opens and he has international clearance anyway.
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Same thing happened with Douglas. Everything will be fine.
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He's signed, I think.
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What makes you think that?
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His management company have said so on Instagram and he has liked it. I can't link to it as not on Instagram.
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Someone has Tweeted a screenshot of it here...
https://twitter.com/AVFCTheReligion/status/1531350902585556993?t=Lk1RZjIz9S8COp1PKYmQBg&s=19
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Fingers crossed.
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The window doesn't open til the 10th. How are we doing this? Not that I'm complaining, mind.
Even odder, apparently 1st of July for international transfers.
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Perhaps if all parties agree we can announce it in advance. Maybe he signs a pre-contract or just signs a contract that has "starts on 1st July" written on it?
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You can announce can’t you? The point is they can’t play/train for the club beforehand.
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Unless you're willing to do so while wearing a variety of disguises.
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I hope all is OK? I don't like this delay as Newcastle could still be sniffing around!
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They'll pip us again like they did with Coutinho.
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I hope all is OK? I don't like this delay as Newcastle could still be sniffing around!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeMKRvND71O/
His agents, allegedly.
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The window doesn't open til the 10th. How are we doing this? Not that I'm complaining, mind.
Even odder, apparently 1st of July for international transfers.
You can sign a contract and announce a transfer any time. He can't become a Villa player officially until the window opens.
Everyone relax.
Diego will be announced in due course.
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I hope all is OK? I don't like this delay as Newcastle could still be sniffing around!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeMKRvND71O/
His agents, allegedly.
I see he’s liked that himself and when you see his profile Mings and Coutinho have liked his page.
He’s ours!
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Negociação concluída! Após brilhar no Sevilla, da Espanha, o nosso atleta e da Bertolucci Sports, Diego Carlos, assina com o Aston Villa e será o novo reforço da equipe de Birmingham, que disputa a Premier League
Basically it says, after starring in Spain, Diego Carlos s signing with Aston Villa and will be the newest reinforcement of the team from Birmingham.
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Welcome to Villa Diego. Please be brilliant.
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I hope all is OK? I don't like this delay as Newcastle could still be sniffing around!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeMKRvND71O/
His agents, allegedly.
Good indicators. Pleased to see it.
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Now official official
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1532067093260259329?s=21&t=qJxgSWOU4rfaFvoQmEtAOw
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Well, that will stop Villafirst stressing for a few days.
Welcome, be good.
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Marvellous stuff - welcome DC.
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Hurrah!
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Hurrah!
I know you were shitting yourself. Started a thread and then it wasn’t made official for days. Thinking maybe he’s gone to Fulham or Everton or been abducted by aliens.
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Hurrah!
I know you were shitting yourself. Started a thread and then it wasn’t made official for days. Thinking maybe he’s gone to Fulham or Everton or been abducted by aliens.
I'd already bought a Newcastle shirt with his name on the back. No chance of selling it on as those fuckers are always topless regardless of the weather.
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Knew it would all be sorted.
We are building a top notch team. A top 4 team in fact.
We are getting Europe next season.
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Knew it would all be sorted.
We are building a top notch team. A top 4 team in fact.
We are getting Europe next season.
Lovely. Which 10 teams we catching 😊
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Fantastic signing. The rock at the back that we have needed for quite a while. Brilliant business by the club. The whole recruitment department seems to be running like a well oiled machine these days.
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Welcome Diego! Now onto the next.....
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NEVER HAD ANY DOUBTS :-[
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Nobody left to coach him though, typical Villa. Disgrace!
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Some ****** on FB bleating “Not another fucking foreigner”.
What’s wrong with these filth?
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Some ****** on FB bleating “Not another fucking foreigner”.
What’s wrong with these filth?
The main reason I came off FB a long time ago. It's infested with moronic racist twats and bigots.
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Nobody left to coach him though, typical Villa. Disgrace!
He signed months ago and they've just announced it to boost flagging season ticket sales IMO. Would have been confirmed earlier but he was stuck on the so-called "waiting list".
Disgrace!
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Welcome to Aston Villa Diego.
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As the saying goes, he looks like he's got muscles in places where I don't even have places.
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Tactical Breakdown on Diego Carlos, Aston Villa's newest powerhouse
This video made me very happy
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Tactical Breakdown on Diego Carlos, Aston Villa's newest powerhouse
This video made me very happy
Sounds good!
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Even though satisfied with the level of Carlos quality, I have seen him play numbering times and am surprised in some ways Gerrard has taken him as he's no ball-playing defender.
First and foremost, he's a defender who is aggressive, so on that side, very Gerrard. However,
ability-wise, he's like a hybrid of Mings and Chambers. He has
a mistake in him, has fouls in him, and can concede penalties, not to mention his discipline.
What he does offer is experience, a bit of class (though no Thiago Silva) and doesn't let many opponents get past him due to his sheer physical abilities, determination and good defending.
Like I say, think Chambers and Mings.
What I compare him too is that he's fine like Mings and Hause's ability to head out of his own box. What is exciting and where he is better than any current squad member, including Konsa or Hause, is that he can attack the ball in the opposition box, so he will be a great goal threat and asset. He's more Martin Laursen than Nathan Baker.
It is definitely a strong player we have signed, but he doesn't totally inspire with his wayward passing from deep and sometimes misguided defending.
More pros than cons, though I'd be worried seeing him against anyone with real pace, but I'd back him on most one-on-ones.
Let's go, Diego!
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Oh good, Footy's back with his passive-aggressive cricitisms.
Whoscored has his passing success in La Liga as 88% last season and 90% the season before that, and rates his passing as "strong". He was also part of the third best defence in Europe last season. I'll take that all day long thanks.
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South American expert Tim Vickery has it right
"He is maybe a Terry Butcher in reverse. One of those centre-backs that looks better than he is. Terry Butcher played three World Cups without any mistakes. He was much better than people gave him credit for. – Diego Carlos has those moments where he is the king of the hill, but I worry about the mistakes.”
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Oh good, Footy's back with his passive-aggressive cricitisms.
Whoscored has his passing success in La Liga as 88% last season and 90% the season before that, and rates his passing as "strong". He was also part of the third best defence in Europe last season. I'll take that all day long thanks.
Almost no criticism, just observation and providing forum members with information about our new centre back. his passing from deep to the opponents' half is not amazing. He's no Beckenbauer when it comes to bringing the ball out.
First and foremost, he's a solid defender who's not afraid to attack the ball and bustle any player. Having Mings next to him in certain games won't actually help either player.
Like a strong Ruben Dias, but not as good on the ball. I think he's a solid acquisition. But I stand by my observations.
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Oh good, Footy's back with his passive-aggressive cricitisms.
Whoscored has his passing success in La Liga as 88% last season and 90% the season before that, and rates his passing as "strong". He was also part of the third best defence in Europe last season. I'll take that all day long thanks.
Almost no criticism, just observation and providing forum members with information about our new centre back. his passing from deep to the opponents' half is not amazing. He's no Beckenbauer when it comes to bringing the ball out.
First and foremost, he's a solid defender who's not afraid to attack the ball and bustle any player. Having Mings next to him in certain games won't actually help either player.
Like a strong Ruben Dias, but not as good on the ball. I think he's a solid acquisition. But I stand by my observations.
Almost no criticisms?
You just told us how Tim Vickery has it right when he tells us he's a bit flaky because he makes a lot of mistakes and is seen as better than he actually is.
Make your mind up.
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Oh good, Footy's back with his passive-aggressive cricitisms.
Whoscored has his passing success in La Liga as 88% last season and 90% the season before that, and rates his passing as "strong". He was also part of the third best defence in Europe last season. I'll take that all day long thanks.
Almost no criticism, just observation and providing forum members with information about our new centre back. his passing from deep to the opponents' half is not amazing. He's no Beckenbauer when it comes to bringing the ball out.
First and foremost, he's a solid defender who's not afraid to attack the ball and bustle any player. Having Mings next to him in certain games won't actually help either player.
Like a strong Ruben Dias, but not as good on the ball. I think he's a solid acquisition. But I stand by my observations.
Almost no criticisms?
You just told us how Tim Vickery has it right when he tells us he's a bit flaky because he makes a lot of mistakes and is seen as better than he actually is.
Make your mind up.
Just saying he will give away penalties is saying he will cost us points, many games are won or lost by a single goal.
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Sevilla came 4th and had the best defence in La Liga, and in fact the best defence of the major leagues in Europe after Liverpool and Man City, and he was the mainstay of that defence. He got 7 yellow cards, not bad for a central defender and half that of his defensive partner and well down the list of the worst culprits in Spain. But other than that, yeah, spot on Tim Vickery, great analysis.
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When were those comments made as well? Vickers usually makes those comments on what he sees in South America, which would have been years ago in this case.
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They kept 16 clean sheets in the league last season too.
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A montage on YouTube suggests he is a bit lumbering and will almost certainly collect yellow cards however Seville’s record is excellent so he deserves credit for being an integral part of that team, which suggest the mistakes cannot be that frequent.
I’m not convinced he is an upgrade but he’ll certainly be pushing Mings/Konsa all the way for a first team spot, so all three of them will need to be at the top of their game.
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I think Newcastle have done well to get Botman.
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When were those comments made as well? Vickers usually makes those comments on what he sees in South America, which would have been years ago in this case.
Hey LBs
Hope you're having good summer!
Well Vickers made claim that Aston Villa’s new signing, Diego Carlos, is ‘Terry Butcher in reverse Sky Sports News (19/06/22)
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Did his partner at the back who Chelsea are keen on, make Carlos look good? As long as he doesn't pass like Cuellar, I'll be happy.
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We finished 14th in the PL last season and did nothing in the cups. Not sure we should be turning our nose up at a player that has played 40 odd games for Sevilla each of the last 3 seasons, finishing 4th each year, only behind 3 teams that usually get to the latter stages of the CL. They also won the Europa League with him in the team and got to the Copa Del Ray semis. He's clearly a good player, the only question is the same one you'd have for any purchase from overseas as to whether he can adapt to the PL.We'll find out over time, but surely we've got to be enthusiastic about this one?
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He really does seem to have gone from great signing to donkey without kicking a ball.
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He really does seem to have gone from great signing to donkey without kicking a ball.
Thats impressive even by our-standard.
We normally at least give them pre-season before we write them off.
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He really does seem to have gone from great signing to donkey without kicking a ball.
Thats impressive even by our-standard.
We normally at least give them pre-season before we write them off.
I just hope we can sell him , he is awful :D
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He's like a Brazilian Liam Ridgewell.
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Carlos Cuellar!
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Some absolute nonsense going in here.
Sevilla lets up 30 goals in a 38 game domestic season, wins a Europa League and qualifies for Champions League. We go on to pip their CB who has played 40+ matches every season going back 6 years.. and we're looking at it as if we've been conned?! Their fans were fuming that he left.
Take a break lads.
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Well, the nonsense is coming from one person, to be fair.
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He really does seem to have gone from great signing to donkey without kicking a ball.
Thats impressive even by our-standard.
We normally at least give them pre-season before we write them off.
I just hope we can sell him , he is awful :D
Diego Carlos? More like Diego Charlie! >:(
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He really does seem to have gone from great signing to donkey without kicking a ball.
Thats impressive even by our-standard.
We normally at least give them pre-season before we write them off.
I just hope we can sell him , he is awful :D
Diego Carlos? More like Diego Charlie! >:(
If thats not bad enough, I've heard hes a secret bluenose
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Well, the nonsense is coming from one person, to be fair.
I think he might have taken one or two of the piss taking comments as genuine.
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He's shit. Can't even defend against Walsa...
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Diego Carlos has been signed to bring competition to the centre back positions, and Gerrard felt we needed to strengthen that area of central defence.
It's really going to challenge the existing centre backs into places and, like SG, I'm looking forward to the competition for places.
Gerrard has said, "Let's just say it was a strong first training session."
If I can suggest that Diego was very aggressive and competitive, perhaps throwing in a few reducers to announce his arrival, we wouldn't be surprised. Go Diego!
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Just what we need if he ends up injuring other squad members.
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*sharpens a pitchfork*
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If I can suggest that Diego was very aggressive and competitive, perhaps throwing in a few reducers to announce his arrival, we wouldn't be surprised. Go Diego!
A foolish and unnecessary gesture, if he did. His record speaks for itself.
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Reducers are pivotal for where we want to go.
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Diego Carlos is also a vice captain, which didn't come out with the original announcement.
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I’ve been made Vice Vice Captain.
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Diego Carlos is also a vice captain, which didn't come out with the original announcement.
I reckon he'll be like Chief Whip then, having quiet words and reminders to toe the line, rather than getting pissed and groping people.
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Diego Carlos is also a vice captain, which didn't come out with the original announcement.
I reckon he'll be like Cheif Whip then, having quiet words and reminders to toe the line, rather than getting pissed and groping people.
Either way people won't argue with him.
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You'd think the Vice Captain thing also makes him a first choice... And he's ahead of Mings in the pecking order..
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Subject to obviously how he gets on in the first few games, I'd say he's number one choice, with the other starting berth more up for grab than it's ever been.
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Yep, it'll be interesting to see what happens. I guess given pre season so far that we're sticking with a 4 at least. I wonder whether Carlos will be left or right sided. I'd hope it will be a settled pair and not lots of swapping about. It's just nice to have plenty of choice for once.
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Yep, it'll be interesting to see what happens. I guess given pre season so far that we're sticking with a 4 at least. I wonder whether Carlos will be left or right sided. I'd hope it will be a settled pair and not lots of swapping about. It's just nice to have plenty of choice for once.
I think he’s right footed but played on the left, so could easily switch to the right.
I think with him you certainly have the option of a back 3 (Chambers/Konsa, Carlos, Mings) for certain games. Not that I’d want it permanently.
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You'd think the Vice Captain thing also makes him a first choice... And he's ahead of Mings in the pecking order..
To be honest, we could easily have 4 players with some degree of captainancy - plus an ex captain
Hell of an achievement for a team that normally looks like its laking leaders
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Looks the part, doesn't he?
Although let's face it, his name makes him sounds cooler than he probably is really.
James Charles doesn't have quite the same ring to it, somehow.
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I think he is going to be a cult hero. Proper big tough fucker, playrs were bouncing off him yesterday, who clearly can also play. I feel sorry for Mings but this is progress
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Looks the part, doesn't he?
Although let's face it, his name makes him sounds cooler than he probably is really.
James Charles doesn't have quite the same ring to it, somehow.
He looks pretty cool to me. And even if he's not I wouldn't be telling him to his face.
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He’s got that look about him that just gives everyone confidence. Both Carlos and Kamara ooze a next level quality about them. A pond we need to be fishing in for all of our future signings. I don’t mind at this point back ups being a slight step down but if we are to push on we need to sign the likes of these two. And Diego has that smile that hides that he will also batter you for crossing him the wrong way.
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He's had a good pre-season and I think will turn out to be a popular signing.
I've got a feeling Kamara may take a bit longer to get up to the speed of the PL.
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He's had a good pre-season and I think will turn out to be a popular signing.
I've got a feeling Kamara may take a bit longer to get up to the speed of the PL.
I think he'll be fine. He was a bit quiet against Rennes but even at this early stage it's clear he's much better than Luiz or McGinn.
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He's had a good pre-season and I think will turn out to be a popular signing.
I've got a feeling Kamara may take a bit longer to get up to the speed of the PL.
I think he'll be fine. He was a bit quiet against Rennes but even at this early stage it's clear he's much better than Luiz or McGinn.
I agree he looks quality and a good signing, I just think we made need a little bit of patience. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some mistakes and loose balls in his first few games.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there's some mistakes and loose balls in his first few games.
Yes but this isn't a thread for McGinn and Watkins, what about Kamara? ;)
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Reminds me of the Bull at the Commonwealth games. The Bull would be a good nickname actually.
One area of concern I have over the "improved defense" is that we are going to miss Mings's head at set pieces. He gets a lot of headed clearances from corners and crosses, almost as if it's just him doing it.
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For as good as his defending headers are / were - his attacking headers at set pieces is actually woeful. He should be getting 3-5 goals per season yet he never looks like scoring one.
Diego on the other hand...........
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Reminds me of the Bull at the Commonwealth games. The Bull would be a good nickname actually.
One area of concern I have over the "improved defense" is that we are going to miss Mings's head at set pieces. He gets a lot of headed clearances from corners and crosses, almost as if it's just him doing it.
Did I miss something, Mings is more likely to start than not on Saturday I reckon.
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Reminds me of the Bull at the Commonwealth games. The Bull would be a good nickname actually.
One area of concern I have over the "improved defense" is that we are going to miss Mings's head at set pieces. He gets a lot of headed clearances from corners and crosses, almost as if it's just him doing it.
Did I miss something, Mings is more likely to start than not on Saturday I reckon.
Yup. I'm expecting Cash - DC - Mings - Digne until something comes up that means it shouldn't be.
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Even if Mings doesn't start the season in the team, I think he would respond to the challenge, improve his form and get back into the team again and make himself and Diego Carlos the first choice centre back pairing.
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Reminds me of the Bull at the Commonwealth games. The Bull would be a good nickname actually.
One area of concern I have over the "improved defense" is that we are going to miss Mings's head at set pieces. He gets a lot of headed clearances from corners and crosses, almost as if it's just him doing it.
Did I miss something, Mings is more likely to start than not on Saturday I reckon.
I'm only basing it on the theory (on here at least) that the starting team V Reinnes would be as near as damn it the 11 who start. Maybe he is in and it's Gerrard mind games to keep Bournmouth guessing. I'd be happy if he is.
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At the end of last year SG went to great lengths to suggest that our inability to hold leads and to mentally switch off in games lost us more points than missed chances (something we should all agree on)
We can argue that TM is a great ambassador etc and is a fans favourite. We can also say that he was not protected as much as he and the other defenders should of been by having a gaping CDM player missing.
But he was the biggest culprit of "switching off". I think the change in Captaincy tells everything.
I would be surprised if he starts on Saturday
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Well it's nice to be in the position whereby the central pairing doesn't pick itself, and there's genuine doubt as to who might start. That's what progress looks like.
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At the end of last year SG went to great lengths to suggest that our inability to hold leads and to mentally switch off in games lost us more points than missed chances (something we should all agree on)
We can argue that TM is a great ambassador etc and is a fans favourite. We can also say that he was not protected as much as he and the other defenders should of been by having a gaping CDM player missing.
But he was the biggest culprit of "switching off". I think the change in Captaincy tells everything.
I would be surprised if he starts on Saturday
I disagree, until his injury Konsa was the biggest liability in our defence.
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At the end of last year SG went to great lengths to suggest that our inability to hold leads and to mentally switch off in games lost us more points than missed chances (something we should all agree on)
We can argue that TM is a great ambassador etc and is a fans favourite. We can also say that he was not protected as much as he and the other defenders should of been by having a gaping CDM player missing.
But he was the biggest culprit of "switching off". I think the change in Captaincy tells everything.
I would be surprised if he starts on Saturday
Yet the biggest culprit for not being switched on at all, and letting games bypass him, is the new captain. SG has created a rod for his own back here.
Looking forward to seeing Carlos playing. I think it would be a surprise at this stage to see Mings start next to him.
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On Saturday Carlos showed good positioning and calmness at the back. He appears to love defending and he was organising others at times.
He’s definitely a leader and now we have competition for who plays alongside him. First time I’ve seen him play and was impressed.
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Carlos may well turn out to be a great acquisition (and Kamara also) but as we all know settling into the pl can take up to 6+ months. I think having a leader like Mings in the team would help these two players settle in quicker.
It seems naive to expect Carlos to marshall the back line alongside a player in Konsa whose own form had dropped away under our manager before his bad injury, with yesterday being only his first game back.
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He has to get up to speed too - giving the ball away so much isn't good, but he'll adapt in time. From Konsa's point of view, when did he last start a run of games for us?
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At the end of last year SG went to great lengths to suggest that our inability to hold leads and to mentally switch off in games lost us more points than missed chances (something we should all agree on)
We can argue that TM is a great ambassador etc and is a fans favourite. We can also say that he was not protected as much as he and the other defenders should of been by having a gaping CDM player missing.
But he was the biggest culprit of "switching off". I think the change in Captaincy tells everything.
I would be surprised if he starts on Saturday
I disagree, until his injury Konsa was the biggest liability in our defence.
yep, and why I thought he bought Chambers
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To the 70s disco funk beat of 'Carwash '
Clap along and sing it:
Diego Carlos
Defending like Diego Carlos, yeah!
Come on and sing it with me
Carlos
Sing it with the feelin' y'all
Carlos, yeah
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More 'Car Crash' than 'Car Wash'. You're singing on your own, Footie.
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Injury sounds a bit worrying.
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FFS
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Sounds like he could be out a while. FOR FUCKS SAKE
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Hopefully it's not as bad as first thought, but Chambers is an able deputy. Just don't bring Konsa in.
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A big blow. Echoes of Lauren with this chap.
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Bloody hell what’s the suspected injury then?
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Gerrard said ankle/Achilles area. Let’s hope it’s the former.
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I don’t remember how it happened but looked like cramp at first. I know Cash was down at the time and we were about to do a double sub, then Carlos went down too. Was it from a challenge or just pulled something?
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He seemed to land awkwardly after going up for a header
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Fingers crossed its not too bad. Looks already very comfortable and settled.
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Worst case it's a snapped achilles, which would end his season.
Best case it's a few weeks. But it doesn't sound good.
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Most Villa thing ever would be to sign a player that rarely misses many matches and have him sustain a major injury after 2 games.
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I hope he's okay and back soon. I've been so rapt with the CG that this was my first time of seeing him play, and I was very impressed. A defender that can do their job very well by seemingly doing next to nothing is the sort of thing that floats my boat.
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Thought he played well and hope he is ok
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A big blow. Echoes of Lauren with this chap.
Laverne? Far paler.
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From what Gerrard has said it sounds like a bad one, especially as he expects the outcome of the scan to dictate who we may sign before the window closes. Hopefully it’s not as expected
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Hopefully Vinnie can bring us some good news.
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To the 70s disco funk beat of 'Carwash '
Clap along and sing it:
Diego Carlos
Defending like Diego Carlos, yeah!
Come on and sing it with me
Carlos
Sing it with the feelin' y'all
Carlos, yeah
Listen and you will bear Villa fan
you don't have to pay
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A big blow. Echoes of Lauren with this chap.
Laverne? Far paler.
Ha!
I do hope he's ok though.
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I thought he was only ok; he had pros and cons against Everton yesterday because he was unable to prevent Onana from crossing the ball, which led to Everton's goal. He was basically turned one way and then the other.
There was also a VAR check, which did not result in a penalty and he's a defender who appears to favour players holding on to their shirts a little too much.
On the plus side, he remains a major threat in attacking set plays and should have hit the target after about 3 minutes instead of attempting to head over when he could have scored another time.
But when it comes to attacking set plays, he's our most threatening centerback of the four and that's an upgrade for sure.
DC distribution from long sometimes resulted in passes straight down the pitch to Pickford as we saw DC on occasions saw just kick it without finding a team mate, which he also did versus Bournemouth with these long straight pass left wondering who was that too. Overall, he's settling in and providing some solidarity and ability to play well generally in possession and gives us options as player who can play either right or left side in the centre.
I'm not sure what this injury situation is or if being at fault
for conceding the goal when he was outplayed by Onana contributed to it.
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... Overall, he's settling in and providing some solidarity and ability to play well generally in possession and gives us options as player who can play either right or left side in the centre...
And, buried in your comment, is the key point - he's new to the league and already looks assured.
Let's hope he's not out for too long.
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... Overall, he's settling in and providing some solidarity and ability to play well generally in possession and gives us options as player who can play either right or left side in the centre...
And, buried in your comment, is the key point - he's new to the league and already looks assured.
Let's hope he's not out for too long.
Yes I was looking forward to seeing how he would cope with Wilf next week.
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Is there any news on the big fella
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Is there any news on the big fella
Martinez posted a picture with him laid out on a sofa. “Recuperate pronto emigo “. So no update really. He was smiling and drinking what looked like a beer.
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I am sure he will go on to be as good as Ken McNaught but just like Ken, in his early days, I thought he was very ropey yesterday and against better team and better set of forward players he would have been in serious trouble. I guess it will take him a little while to settle down.
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I am sure he will go on to be as good as Ken McNaught but just like Ken, in his early days, I thought he was very ropey yesterday and against better team and better set of forward players he would have been in serious trouble. I guess it will take him a little while to settle down.
This is probably the most apt comment on his start so far. He looks a bit star struck.
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Googling Ken McNaught
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Hopefully Vinnie can bring us some good news.
Sounds serious. MRI scan pending
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Just our bloody luck.
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Typical, at least we're still fairly well stocked in that area and still have time to bring someone in if needed.
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Bring in a loan player for that.
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Bring in a loan player for that.
Rescue Varane from Man U.
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Googling Ken McNaught
Put it this way, my Dad was at the game where he made his debut for Villa and 45 years on still remembers just how bad he was.
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Hopefully Vinnie can bring us some good news.
Sounds serious. MRI scan pending
Jeez reminds me of Okore looking decent in his first 3-4 games then walking off v Newcastle and that was his season ended and he wasn't very mobile at all when he came back.
Was hoping it would be like Konsa end of last season, people thought he'd be out for rest of the year but he was back for pre season.
Yet another new signing we make that pretty much gets injured straight away, very very frustrating.
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Googling Ken McNaught
Put it this way, my Dad was at the game where he made his debut for Villa and 45 years on still remembers just how bad he was.
I remember Ugo's debut. Absolute horror show. He turned out OK though.
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He was being treated yesterday, got up, screamed in pain then fell back down again.
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He was being treated yesterday, got up, screamed in pain then fell back down again.
I could see when the play was still going that he was in pain and wasn't moving the injured leg.
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Bring in a loan player for that.
why? - we have Chambers, Konsa and Kamara ...
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Not to mention Feeney.
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Bring in a loan player for that.
why? - we have Chambers, Konsa and Kamara ...
After waiting literally years to have someone play the Kamara role, it would be nuts to then move him straight out of it.
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Hause is still another back-up option. I get the feeling SG will want an upgrade option should Carlos be ruled out for any length of time. Hopefully we get better news tomorrow on this injury.......
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Talk on Twitter (I know) he's out for the rest of the season.
If true surely we need to bring someone else in. Even if it's only on loan.
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Even if he is out for a long time, do we REALLY need to buy a replacement?
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I doubt we are going to get someone much better than Konsa/Chambers on loan, so would be a waste of time. If we want to bring in a loan player to give us extra cover we might as well just keep Hause.
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Well, if we don't bring anyone else in, we go into this season with the same team as last year plus a free transfer. I do think we need to strengthen.
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Even if he is out for a long time, do we REALLY need to buy a replacement?
Nope, four we have are more than capable though I can understand if Hause wants to move on.
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Fingers crossed but if he is out for the season we need to buy. If we don’t then we’ll end up no higher than last season. Let’s hope the rumours aren’t true and we don’t have to bother.
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If it’s true that’s terrible for him and us.
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The centre of our defence was awful the back end of last season.
If Carlos is out for a long time there's no way we're getting anywhere near the top 10 with the other central defenders we have.
Another central defender needs to come in sharpish.
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This would be an absolute tragedy. For the player first and foremost who started to look really comfortable and assured. And next to Tyrone we were all hopefully that would be a formidable partnership long term. But fuck me, can we not have any luck with injuries. Just one season where we have a full compliment of our best players? Really hope what is being reported is absolute worst case and not what ultimately transpires.
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Even if he is out for a long time, do we REALLY need to buy a replacement?
Yes. Ming’s needs competition (genuine competition) otherwise we are no stronger than last season. We can’t expect to improve significantly with just the addition of Kamara. Gerrard saw it as a priority and I would agree
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I thought he played quite well yesterday and I really hope it’s not a bad one. If it is then Chambers and Mings for me is decent with Konsa and keep Kortney.
I’d still rather strengthen up front.
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As the club are now posting, you’ll come back stronger Facebook/insta posts. It’s going to be bad news isn’t it…FFS
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Typical
Think we're cursed
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Achilles?
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Achilles?
Looks it.
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His Wiki. What sad sack takes the time to edit in such shite.
On 6 August, he made his debut for the club in the Premier league in 2-0 away loss against Bournemouth. [22] Confirmed being out for the rest of his first season after only 2 unflattering appearances has left Villa fans asking questions whether he is out of depth in the Premier League. He has come under scrutiny of his lacklustre performances, and being caught out of position on defensive set pieces, with rumours speculating his regret in joining the Birmingham outfit and already planning an exit at the end of the season.
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That is truly pathetic.
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Did we beat some other team to his signature? Look at that direction. I would have said look towards Small Heath but I doubt they would link us to Birmingham.
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After 2 games the only thing it’s fair to say is that he didn’t’ succumb to the Didier Six debut trap.
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That has Newcastle fan written all over it. Weird bunch.
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Didn't Jemaine Jenas do his Achilles after two or three games with us while on loan from Spurs.
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Leeds, IMO.
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Word doing the rounds is a ruptured achilles. 6-9 months recovery time, longer to get to match fitness. And no guarantee that he'll ever get that far.
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Word doing the rounds is a ruptured achilles. 6-9 months recovery time, longer to get to match fitness. And no guarantee that he'll ever get that far.
Personally I'd rather wait for an official announcement from Pravda than believe any speculative social media bullshit.
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I sometimes feel that only we can buy a defender has never played less than 28 league games, and yet is crocked after 2 appearances for us.
And at his age, you wonder if we'll have to add him to Bent, Kozak, Okore, Wesley and numerous others that even when they managed to come back were never the same as they were.
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Word doing the rounds is a ruptured achilles. 6-9 months recovery time, longer to get to match fitness. And no guarantee that he'll ever get that far.
Personally I'd rather wait for an official announcement from Pravda than believe any speculative social media bullshit.
As is your right. But there's enough creditable journos reporting on it – so, as I said, that's the word doing the rounds.
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Word doing the rounds is a ruptured achilles. 6-9 months recovery time, longer to get to match fitness. And no guarantee that he'll ever get that far.
Personally I'd rather wait for an official announcement from Pravda than believe any speculative social media bullshit.
As is your right. But there's enough creditable journos reporting on it – so, as I said, that's the word doing the rounds.
Ignore me. I'm just an old, cantankerous git.
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Word doing the rounds is a ruptured achilles. 6-9 months recovery time, longer to get to match fitness. And no guarantee that he'll ever get that far.
Personally I'd rather wait for an official announcement from Pravda than believe any speculative social media bullshit.
As is your right. But there's enough creditable journos reporting on it – so, as I said, that's the word doing the rounds.
Ignore me. I'm just an old, cantankerous git.
You're not old, Lee.
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If true then we really can't expect much improvement this season. Basically only Kamara as a new starter. I can only see a stop gap loan CH coming in. What an absolute nightmare for Carlos and the club who did wonders to get him.
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Chambers with Hause as back-up.
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Martin Laursen after 3 games, Luc Nilis after 3, Wesley, after he played a decent game, Tom Heaton in the same game, Carl Tiler. We do seem to get it bad. Hopefully Carlos isn't out for as long as being quoted but this is Villa.
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Terrible news.
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Ignore me. I'm just an old, cantankerous git.
You're not old, Lee.
Well said Rory! Leeg is younger than me which obviously means he's still in his prime.
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Ignore me. I'm just an old, cantankerous git.
You're not old, Lee.
Well said Rory! Leeg is younger than me which obviously means he's still in his prime.
Oh no, you're well old, BV! 😉
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Ignore me. I'm just an old, cantankerous git.
You're not old, Lee.
Well said Rory! Leeg is younger than me which obviously means he's still in his prime.
Oh no, you're well old, BV! 😉
I know you mean that in a "with age comes wisdom" way so all good. :)
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Ignore me. I'm just an old, cantankerous git.
You're not old, Lee.
Well said Rory! Leeg is younger than me which obviously means he's still in his prime.
Oh no, you're well old, BV! 😉
I know you mean that in a "with age comes wisdom" way so all good. :)
I do - and you are bloody wise!
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Standard stuff. Laursen, Vlaar, Okore, Tuanzebe, Engels..?
Add this guy to the made of glass / instant injury / out for the season / probably we'll never see again list.
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Confirmed as ruptured Achilles…damn
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Awful for him and us.
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That’s terrible news for him and us. It’s a bad injury that was career ending years ago but he’ll be back thankfully. We really do have some unbelievable bad luck.
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We have got to be cursed. Always our big signings. FFS.
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FFS - it’s just unreal. At his age we were looking at 3 - 4 seasons max as a first choice and we’ve lost one of them.
We also now only have 1 new player in a squad that finish 14th
I imagine we’ll bring someone in - most likely on loan - Coady would have been perfect if all sides could have stomached it
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Poor bloke. New club, new league, new home in a new country and fucked for months.
Poor us, it's happened again.
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Really bad luck for him, and us.
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Confirmed as ruptured Achilles…damn
FFS, if we fell into a bucket of tits we'd come out sucking our thumb.
Get well soon Diego.
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FFS - it’s just unreal. At his age we were looking at 3 - 4 seasons max as a first choice and we’ve lost one of them.
We also now only have 1 new player in a squad that finish 14th
I imagine we’ll bring someone in - most likely on loan - Coady would have been perfect if all sides could have stomached it
Coady?
Can only play in a system that dare not speak its name
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So we are only one player better off than last year. We need to buy and quick.
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Confirmed as ruptured Achilles…damn
FFS, if we fell into a bucket of tits we'd come out sucking our thumb.
Get well soon Diego.
Not a good injury at all to get, thankfully the window is still open to get someone in.
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Oh FFS
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FFS. Possibly good chance for Chambers to have extended run. Bitch of a time as best ones are snapped up and the others are back ups to back ups
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We all know that’s the last time we’re seeing him play in a Villa shirt right
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I sometimes feel that only we can buy a defender has never played less than 28 league games, and yet is crocked after 2 appearances for us.
And at his age, you wonder if we'll have to add him to Bent, Kozak, Okore, Wesley and numerous others that even when they managed to come back were never the same as they were.
I think that guaranteed. Paying his wages for 4 years with no return.
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Absolutely gutted, get well soon Diego.
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FFS - it’s just unreal. At his age we were looking at 3 - 4 seasons max as a first choice and we’ve lost one of them.
We also now only have 1 new player in a squad that finish 14th
I imagine we’ll bring someone in - most likely on loan - Coady would have been perfect if all sides could have stomached it
Coady?
Can only play in a system that dare not speak its name
Yeah true
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Gutted for him as he looked good on Saturday. The only 'positive' is that the window is still open. Hopefully a replacement can be found. Let's hope it doesn't come at the expense of any other targets.
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Ivo Stass all over again.
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We all know that’s the last time we’re seeing him play in a Villa shirt right
Depends, probably not this season
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Gutted for him as he looked good on Saturday. The only 'positive' is that the window is still open. Hopefully a replacement can be found. Let's hope it doesn't come at the expense of any other targets.
And that's the point. Our defensive cover is still good enough imo so it shouldn't detract from any other targets. The only transfer decision to make now is not letting Hause go.
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Rotten luck for us and even more so for him. Wishing you a successful recovery Diego.
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Shit news for the big man, and us.
Get well soon!
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We all know that’s the last time we’re seeing him play in a Villa shirt right
Depends, probably not this season
I think it’s a definitely isn’t it? Real shame for the Guy
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Gutted for him as he looked good on Saturday. The only 'positive' is that the window is still open. Hopefully a replacement can be found. Let's hope it doesn't come at the expense of any other targets.
And that's the point. Our defensive cover is still good enough imo so it shouldn't detract from any other targets. The only transfer decision to make now is not letting Hause go.
I don't agree with this. Gerrard obviously wasn't happy with the three options we had, otherwise he wouldn't have spent that much on Carlos. Konsa was mostly shit last year, and he was shit against Bournemouth.
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Mings, Konsa and Hause are a car crash set of defenders.
We're now down to just Chambers who is any good.
If we don't get another centre half in we'll concede so many goals.
Worried for us if truth be told.
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Gutted for him as he looked good on Saturday. The only 'positive' is that the window is still open. Hopefully a replacement can be found. Let's hope it doesn't come at the expense of any other targets.
And that's the point. Our defensive cover is still good enough imo so it shouldn't detract from any other targets. The only transfer decision to make now is not letting Hause go.
I don't agree with this. Gerrard obviously wasn't happy with the three options we had, otherwise he wouldn't have spent that much on Carlos. Konsa was mostly shit last year, and he was shit against Bournemouth.
Konsa was rotten v Bournemouth (Carlos was worse I thought) but less than a year ago we were all saying it was laughable he wasn't in the England squad. Centre back isn't really a position you need to rotate too much. If Hause leaves then fine, we need another option.
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We all know that’s the last time we’re seeing him play in a Villa shirt right?
Yep. After 18 months or so he'll go out on loan to gain fitness and that will be that. Some club might take a punt on him for a couple million if we're lucky.
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Gutted for him as he looked good on Saturday. The only 'positive' is that the window is still open. Hopefully a replacement can be found. Let's hope it doesn't come at the expense of any other targets.
And that's the point. Our defensive cover is still good enough imo so it shouldn't detract from any other targets. The only transfer decision to make now is not letting Hause go.
I don't agree with this. Gerrard obviously wasn't happy with the three options we had, otherwise he wouldn't have spent that much on Carlos. Konsa was mostly shit last year, and he was shit against Bournemouth.
Konsa was rotten v Bournemouth (Carlos was worse I thought) but less than a year ago we were all saying it was laughable he wasn't in the England squad. Centre back isn't really a position you need to rotate too much. If Hause leaves then fine, we need another option.
They were all rotton V Bournemouth. Konsa hasn't suddenly become a bad player and that's the end of it. He's hit a bad bit of form but will come good again and playing alongside Mings we have as steady a central pairing as there is apart from a handful of clubs. Even if there's a dip in form we have Chambers ready to step in.
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Terrible news for the big lad especially as he also misses (possible) world cup this winter. Get well soon Diego.
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I didnt see what happened, but it seems the injury event was rather innocuous. This is a 29 year old player who has played in the top leagues without apparent problem for a number of years. Together with our recent injury history, this does start to raise nagging doubts re our training regimes.
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Mings, Konsa and Hause are a car crash set of defenders.
We're now down to just Chambers who is any good.
If we don't get another centre half in we'll concede so many goals.
Worried for us if truth be told.
It's all about opinions I suppose but those three are not car crash defenders at all. They may have their individual faults but describing them as car crash is way over the top.
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Could this be the opportunity for Feeney to step up to the regular squad?
He looked calm, assured and comfortable on the ball in pre-season.
I know it may be a little early, but sometimes a young player thrives on an unexpected opportunity.
2 from 5. Mings, Konsa, Hause, Chambers, Feeney
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Get well soon DC.
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Sad for Diego, but the situation is not drastic. He himself was still coming to terms with the premiership. I'm still more concerned at the other end of the pitch.
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Hause is probably going to leave - he must know he was 5th choice behind Carlos, Mings, Konsa, Chambers and possibly behind Feeney too.
Feeney is too young to be risked. So we need a replacement.
But what type of player?
We've spent £28m on DC, how much is left in the kitty and is that earmarked for a MF and a CF?
Do we go short term and bring in a stop gap, or get somebody who has long term potential should we decide to move out some of pur centre back roster n the future?
Are there any decent free agents we could sign reasonably quickly/easily - saving a fee.
If we want to pay - how much, will the selling club play hardball knowing we're "desperate" and can we persuade somebody to move from his existing club - if so at what cost
Quite a lot for Johann & Co to think about and work through in the coming days.
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Mings, Konsa and Hause are a car crash set of defenders.
We're now down to just Chambers who is any good.
If we don't get another centre half in we'll concede so many goals.
Worried for us if truth be told.
I think the centre halves have much better protection now with Kamala in the side and they will improve because of him.
I don't see a bad car crash happening but I might be wrong.
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Could this be the opportunity for Feeney to step up to the regular squad?
He looked calm, assured and comfortable on the ball in pre-season.
I know it may be a little early, but sometimes a young player thrives on an unexpected opportunity.
2 from 5. Mings, Konsa, Hause, Chambers, Feeney
That was my thought. If it's a little too soon and and we're getting a decent fee for Hause could we maybe look for a stop gap signing like Chambers to cover whilst young Josh develops?
Gutted for the big man, looked decent and seems to have integrated well with the South American contingent if the social media snaps with Emi are anything to go by.
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Curtis Davies (remember him) got an achilles injury midway through his first season and was back for the start of the next one.
There wasn't a noticeable lack of pace when he returned; he even looked quite good - alongside Laursen.
Alongside Cuellar it was comedy defending.
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Gutted for him as he looked good on Saturday. The only 'positive' is that the window is still open. Hopefully a replacement can be found. Let's hope it doesn't come at the expense of any other targets.
And that's the point. Our defensive cover is still good enough imo so it shouldn't detract from any other targets. The only transfer decision to make now is not letting Hause go.
I don't agree with this. Gerrard obviously wasn't happy with the three options we had, otherwise he wouldn't have spent that much on Carlos. Konsa was mostly shit last year, and he was shit against Bournemouth.
As others have said, we were all mostly shit against Bournemouth, Carlos included. Chambers didn't play that game and he'd be my choice to take over at centre half as I think transfer priorities are elsewhere in the team.
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Is Christopher Samba still knocking about?
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I didnt see what happened, but it seems the injury event was rather innocuous. This is a 29 year old player who has played in the top leagues without apparent problem for a number of years. Together with our recent injury history, this does start to raise nagging doubts re our training regimes.
Whatever about training regimes, i hope it wasn't another case of a player being allowed to play on only to seriously exacerbate the issue. If so, the medical staff need sacking.
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We should keep Hause for another season and stick with what we've got. A Konsa of two seasons ago is more than good enough and Chambers looks very good as well. With Kamara in midfield this should be enough, although if he gets injured we're fucked.
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That's a big blow I hope he comes back stronger.
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Feeney looks fine, but will hardly get any game time and it would be better for his development to play on loan.
More imprortantly the idea was to imprive the starting XI as Gerrard obviously doesn't have enough confidence in Mings / Konsa / Chambers. Personally I always felt we had bigger problems but I wouldn't be surprised if we go back into the market. Gerrards can't afford to wait for Diego to get fit, he could well be out of a job by then. So unless he's seen something in pres season that has changed his mind then surely we'l be looking hard for a replacement.
Anyone know if insurance kicks in to cover wages etc for this type of injury?
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We should keep Hause for another season and stick with what we've got. A Konsa of two seasons ago is more than good enough and Chambers looks very good as well. With Kamara in midfield this should be enough, although if he gets injured we're fucked.
Chambers has looked good when played that’s for sure. It’s just the nagging doubt I have about how consistent he is when having a decent run in a team. The fans view from Arsenal is that he goes off the boil. But I guess we’ll never know until it happens.
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The defence looked so shaky last year because of the lack of cover in front of them. I'd still be focusing on another midfielder and someone up front. At least there's a bit of time left in the window.
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It's a real blow, both for Diego & the club. We need a replacement both as a defender and a leader. We cannot go with what we had last season & expect to improve our position in the league.
If they can find someone, it'll come at the expense of other areas of the squad not improving. I think it'll be a loan. Whilst the window is open for a couple of weeks, it won't be easy to just find a someone who fits the criteria.
Anyway get well soon Diego.
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How does this work with insurance? We've committed to a four year deal and up to 25% of that is now fcuked. Feel bad for the player but at least he's on full-pay and can pass his free time binging on boxsets and spending time with the kids (he seemed to have at least two hanging off him as he emerged from the tunnel on Saturday.
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We should be okay with Mings Konsa Hause and Chambers.
Seem to remember Mings and Konsa were quite good once upon a time.
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I think the centre halves have much better protection now with Kamala in the side and they will improve because of him.
I don't see a bad car crash happening but I might be wrong.
I don't think she's up to it, it's bound be a car crash with her involved.
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The defence looked so shaky last year because of the lack of cover in front of them. I'd still be focusing on another midfielder and someone up front. At least there's a bit of time left in the window.
I tend to agree with this. Although losing Carlos is a big blow, I think shape and midfield is far more important.
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Gutted, thought he was going to be ace for this season, get well soon.
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For fuck's sake. I mean, just fucking hell.
What have we done to deserve this shitty luck?
All the best to the lad. It's a bloody shame.
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That has Newcastle fan written all over it. Weird bunch.
Can't be. After all there local paper have ran a story stating how much class their fans have with get well messages (https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-supporters-show-class-24758242) even if the first two contain pointers that most of their fans have been cnuts over it.
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There's no way I'd be spending more on another CB. Maybe bring in someone on loan if he's of sufficient quality but otherwise there are higher priorities elsewhere and presumably we need to save some money for the January window.
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For fuck's sake. I mean, just fucking hell.
What have we done to deserve this shitty luck?
All the best to the lad. It's a bloody shame.
This.
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I sometimes feel that only we can buy a defender has never played less than 28 league games, and yet is crocked after 2 appearances for us.
And at his age, you wonder if we'll have to add him to Bent, Kozak, Okore, Wesley and numerous others that even when they managed to come back were never the same as they were.
I think that guaranteed. Paying his wages for 4 years with no return.
Surely covered by insurance?
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Gutted
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I expect they will have insured his earnings against longer term injury. So we could get a loan/free transfer player in and his wages will be covered by our claim.
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Yes they did. The excess is £20m.
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Disappointed for the lad! Good luck with the recovery.
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How does this work with insurance? We've committed to a four year deal and up to 25% of that is now fcuked. Feel bad for the player but at least he's on full-pay and can pass his free time binging on boxsets and spending time with the kids (he seemed to have at least two hanging off him as he emerged from the tunnel on Saturday.
If insured (expect so) then we would receive a payment from the insurance company (his wages) typically after a deferral period agreed in the Contract (probably months). Until he returns or the end of the cover period.
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Our success rate with Brazilians hasn't been great so far has it. We tend to break them.
We should look for an Argentinian replacement, they seem a lot more sturdy.
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I sometimes feel that only we can buy a defender has never played less than 28 league games, and yet is crocked after 2 appearances for us.
And at his age, you wonder if we'll have to add him to Bent, Kozak, Okore, Wesley and numerous others that even when they managed to come back were never the same as they were.
Luc Nilis sprang to mind for me. Petrov too, although not quite the same scenario and not as young as those players but still our captain at the time. It is devastating really, we'll be left with another 'what if...'
Anyone know how this will impact FFP? Can we sign a replacement without being penalised?
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He should be able to come back from this just as strong as before. He's 29, surrounded by the best physios and surgical advancements have made this a very recoverable injury.
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I sometimes feel that only we can buy a defender has never played less than 28 league games, and yet is crocked after 2 appearances for us.
And at his age, you wonder if we'll have to add him to Bent, Kozak, Okore, Wesley and numerous others that even when they managed to come back were never the same as they were.
Luc Nilis sprang to mind for me. Petrov too, although not quite the same scenario and not as young as those players but still our captain at the time. It is devastating really, we'll be left with another 'what if...'
Anyone know how this will impact FFP? Can we sign a replacement without being penalised?
No
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We are cursed.
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Certainly feels like it, all the joy from Saturdays result now seems rather flat.
We can only wish him a speedy and full recovery (though from what I understand a full recovery isn't the norm).
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I hope for a speedy recovery.
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Best wishes big Diego.
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Somebody with a stats head should do an analysis. Are we disproportionately hit with long-term serious injuries/illness to important players/big signings?
It seems to be way out of proportion with us. Off the top of my head
Nillis
Laursen
Kozak
Bent
Grealish
Ehiogu in 1998/99 being out for a time more or less derailed our season.
Edit: Gary Charles, Dion Dublin, and I recall Benteke getting a few bad ones too.
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Somebody with a stats head should do an analysis. Are we disproportionately hit with long-term serious injuries/illness to important players/big signings?
It seems to be way out of proportion with us. Off the top of my head
Nillis
Laursen
Kozak
Bent
Grealish
Ehiogu in 1998/99 being out for a time more or less derailed our season.
Wright
Leonard
Shaw
Little
Pejic (sp?)
Delaney
Robson
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It's a bit of a pisser but at least we still have 4 centre halves to all upon. Let's hope for a swift recovery.
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I'm sure all clubs have their lengthy-list of crocked woes. We're not cursed, we're just the Villa.
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Jason Denayer is - I think - a free agent
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Bouma's injury looked horrific and also meant he didn't play for us again although he did pick his career up when he returned to PSV.
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Dreadful news for him and the club. Big injury, and at 29 not an easy recovery.
Wish him all the best on the long road back to first team action.
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Somebody with a stats head should do an analysis. Are we disproportionately hit with long-term serious injuries/illness to important players/big signings?
It seems to be way out of proportion with us. Off the top of my head
Nillis
Laursen
Kozak
Bent
Grealish
Ehiogu in 1998/99 being out for a time more or less derailed our season.
Edit: Gary Charles, Dion Dublin, and I recall Benteke getting a few bad ones too.
Curtis Davies ruptured his Achilles Tendon in March 2008 whilst on loan from West Brom. However, we still signed him permanently later that summer......He did a similar injury much later in his career with Derby County.
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We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
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Watching Saturdays highlights you could see his confidence was growing and there is no doubt Gerrard sees him as a leader so this is a real blow to our aspirations
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We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
Petrol?
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We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
Petrol?
You fuelling some sort of rumour? - it was Petrov.
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We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
Petrol?
Benito Carbone?
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We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
Petrol?
We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
My non footballing mate has just played footy with him in Cyprus in a Dads v Kids game
He is currently part of a kids football camp in Limassol.
My mate got all 'new holiday friends' with him
He was ever so chuffed :)
but I set him straight about the original Rat boy ;)
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We signed Downing pre-fucked.
With an injury inflicted by one of our own players when we played Boro.
Petrol?
Benito Carbone?
That's enough puns now, diesel do.
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Oil give it a rest then.
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Oil give it a rest then.
Slick.
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Oil give it a rest then.
Oil give it a rest then.
Slick.
some of these puns are.not very refined
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Oil give it a rest then.
Oil give it a rest then.
Slick.
some of these puns are.not very refined
Yes, very crude.