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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on May 21, 2022, 06:57:03 PM
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One of the shortest ever pre-match discussions. I don't see how we can win but it would be ace if we did.
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Agreed, so long as Wolves win too. Brentford as well, please.
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4-0 to Man City
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Not a hope in hell
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4-0 to Man City
At half time.
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Because of a change in circumstances I've actually got a ticket to go tomorrow.
Been to the Etihad once during the infamous Gerrard slippage factor season and due to massive delays missed the first half and watched from afar as I don't think we got out of our own half in the second period.
Hoping I, A) get to see the whole game and B) we get some attacking action.
3-2 City.
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I have a feeling we will score at least once and make it nervy as fuck for them.
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How are we going to score 2 goals!!
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If they score really early, I have a bad feeling this could go horribly wrong. A draw could put us up four places. 9-0 to Villa, obvs.
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It will be interesting to see how he lines up.
The longer we stay in the game the better.
Expect a few dodgy decisions.
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I just hope that as good as Man City are, it doesn’t end up being a rout and us getting mullered.
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How are we going to score 2 goals!!
By kicking off at 3.00.
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5-0 to them.
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I think they’ll probably come out the blocks and hammer us. I never want Villa to lose obviously but its kind of a no win in some ways. We win by some miracle, our enjoyment of it will soon get swept away by the media love in for Stevie G doing it for Liverpool, not that, that will be Gerrards fault. We lose, firstly its just shit to lose, secondly, we’ll have the displeasure of watching Grealish celebrate.
Weighing it all up i still want the few minutes of joy, brain says 4-0 them, heart says, 3-2 us.
Martinez
Cash
Chambers
Mings
Digne
Nakamba
Ramsey
McGinn
Coutinhio
Watkins
Ings
Id play Beundia instead of Ings but i dont think he will.
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Be tempted to give Olsen a game, see if he's worth signing.
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Be tempted to give Olsen a game, see if he's worth signing.
be interesting to see how he is at picking the ball out of the back of the net.
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Yean, we don't want Martinez putting his back out.
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I would rather see Liverpool win the league than Grealish win a medal.
I reckon it will be 6 0 them. Brentford will cave and Newcastle will stuff Burnley.
Meaning the worst of all worlds with Leeds staying up, a smirk on Ratboys face and Newcastle above us.
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2-0.
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I would rather see Liverpool win the league than Grealish win a medal.
I reckon it will be 6 0 them. Brentford will cave and Newcastle will stuff Burnley.
Meaning the worst of all worlds with Leeds staying up, a smirk on Ratboys face and Newcastle above us.
If it was down to winning the league I wouldn't care much either way. But if we avoid defeat tomorrow Liverchester United win The Quadruple, and that's a nauseating idea.
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I’ve gone for a Villa win, just because strange things happen on the last day.
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I would rather see Liverpool win the league than Grealish win a medal.
I reckon it will be 6 0 them. Brentford will cave and Newcastle will stuff Burnley.
Meaning the worst of all worlds with Leeds staying up, a smirk on Ratboys face and Newcastle above us.
If it was down to winning the league I wouldn't care much either way. But if we avoid defeat tomorrow Liverchester United win The Quadruple, and that's a nauseating idea.
Yep nauseating. But not as nauseating as City winning to me. (It helps that I don't know many scousers though)
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I would rather see Liverpool win the league than Grealish win a medal.
I reckon it will be 6 0 them. Brentford will cave and Newcastle will stuff Burnley.
Meaning the worst of all worlds with Leeds staying up, a smirk on Ratboys face and Newcastle above us.
If it was down to winning the league I wouldn't care much either way. But if we avoid defeat tomorrow Liverchester United win The Quadruple, and that's a nauseating idea.
Yep nauseating. But not as nauseating as City winning to me. (It helps that I don't know many scousers though)
You don't have to know Scousers to know Liverpool fans! I've had one wishing me good luck all week. I have been feeding him made up stories that we are playing the kids.
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Pep and his assembled mercenaries will be sat in their hotel tonight shitting themselves at the thought of Aston villa and their followers making their way up the M6 tomorrow. If anyone can fuck their day up its us.Ok I may have had a couple but come on villa let's piss on their parade.
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The thought of Grealish winning his championship medal in the last game of the season against us makes my testicles retreat so far into my body, I can feel them at the back of my head.
For that reason, I shan't be watching.
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We are likely to get a hiding but sometimes, just sometimes, something unusual happens.
We'll score first. But lose.
3-1
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3-1…can see the quickest ever emptying of an away end in history….can’t see anyone wanting to watch the plastic celebrations.
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I don't care how we do it but we must find a way to stop them winning the title. Stevie G will be up for it, maybe he can motivate the players too.
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A loss unfortunately and then onto next season.
I can’t see our manager making strange substitutions against this title rival in the event we’re drawing at the hour mark.
UTV as always!
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We're going to get a draw.
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Erm….. nope.
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Nothing goes right for them, they bottle it, and we run out 2-0 winners in a straight forward and strangely calm win. Grealish cries, we laugh at him.
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We win, Jack gets booed off the pitch.
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I’m going out for a long boozy lunch, can’t bare the sycophantic Sky scab 6 love in fest. Leeds being relegated will make me happy.
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So let’s look at that Aston Villa at the Emptyhad record since they moved there……On the other hand let’s not.
I was there for both the victories the 2-0 under MON and the remarkable League Cup win where I nearly stayed in the pub as I thought we’d get mullered. Other than that I don’t think we’ve ever got a draw and have lost every other game. I’m going anything less than 3-0 and the moral victory will be ours.
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Funnily enough I think we’ll get something here, possibly a 2-2 with us scoring, them equalising and us scoring again only to see them snatching a draw in the last minute. Just a feeling. It is the last day
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Citeh coasting most the game at 2-0.
Grealish comes off bench last 10 minutes, gives away pen and then puts through his own goal.
2-2 draw and he's won fuck all. Mings laughing offers to swap shirts with a blarting Grealish at the end as our fans sing "Villa till I die".
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Their defence was rotten v West Ham, individually and collectively. So think Watkins could have some joy against them. I'm assuming Nakamba will come back in with Ramsey dropping out. I think they will beat us with a late goal, maybe from our former talisman....
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Heavy defeat.
Mahrez and De Bruyne to score anytime.
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Reminder that M6 junction 8-10 has major roadworks. We got stuck in that lot when travelling up to Burnley. It took an hour to get through it.
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Reminder that M6 junction 8-10 has major roadworks. We got stuck in that lot when travelling up to Burnley. It took an hour to get through it.
Avoid at all costs. I work near Junction 9, they are dismantling the bridge that goes across at Junction 10 this weekend. All traffic both ways has to leave the motorway go round the island and rejoin.
Pay to use the toll road or head up the A5 by Cannock and get on there.
(https://i.ibb.co/M8bdnZv/FTMku-No-WQAEh1-Kj.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M8bdnZv)
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2-2
Grealish to stay benched for the whole game studying a map of the world.
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I'm going to this game my head says 2-0 loss but my heart says 1-1 draw.
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As they said on the excellent The Villa Podcast: “Imagine hearing the deathly silence at the Etihad at 5 to 6 and for once there’s an actual reason for it”.
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If by some chance we were to scrape a draw, you know the scousers would fuck it up too.
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As they said on the excellent The Villa Podcast: “Imagine hearing the deathly silence at the Etihad at 5 to 6 and for once there’s an actual reason for it”.
I did enjoy that comment and I do enjoy that podcast.
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Win, lose or draw the result in terms of who lifts the Premier League trophy is pretty unpalatable.
Guess there will be a helicopter with the silverware hovering in the Wigan area.
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I really don’t like the Liverpool narrative so just for once I’m non plussed. This probably makes me a bad fan but at least I’m honest.
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We'll be a goal up as we go into second half added time... and then Grealish will summon his inner Aguero.
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We'll be a goal up as we go into second half added time... and then Grealish will summon his inner Aguero.
Let’s hope his inner Aguero is in Argentina and has to catch a plane to get here.
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Win, lose or draw the result in terms of who lifts the Premier League trophy is pretty unpalatable.
Guess there will be a helicopter with the silverware hovering in the Wigan area.
I think they can safely tie the sky blue ribbons on it now.
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Last trip North. Setting off shortly. It would be s miracle if we stop City winning the league.
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15 mins gone , are playing well then then they score. We dig in and keep going but then on 60 mins they make it 2 and the sky wankfest starts. Ratboy comes on and on 70 mins nets. At that stage I kick the TV over have a row with the missus and head for the pub. On the way to the pub I remember there might be some plastics in their so head to the offy instead. Get bladdered go home have another row about the cost of a new TV. Happy bloody Sunday.
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They’ll score inside 10 minutes and that’ll be that.
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I would love us to get three points to move up the table a bit but expect to lose by three.
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OK I was hoping for a miracle but just been told that we are playing in dark blue third kit today. So far we have 100% loss record in that kit. We are doomed.
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As they said on the excellent The Villa Podcast: “Imagine hearing the deathly silence at the Etihad at 5 to 6 and for once there’s an actual reason for it”.
I did enjoy that comment and I do enjoy that podcast.
It’s a cracking podcast. The Gary Neville slating metaphor of Matty Cash as a future pundit talking about his old super sub mate Buendia as Villa manager is absolute genius.
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The oil bandits will be 5-0 up at half time, and will end up winning 6-0 after they take their foot off the gas in the second half and we huff and puff for 45 mins.
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No chance and Sky wankfest all over after 15 mins when they 2-0 up. 4-0 overall and the end of a particularly pants season. Then a nice visit to the Freeman's in Newcastle next week to see if I manage to see next season in full. Hey ho, it's all fun 🙄
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I hope the social media gang who ‘want Jack to win it’ haven’t got tickets. The thought of Villa fans staying to applaud him with his shiny bauble turns the stomach.
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I hope the social media gang who ‘want Jack to win it’ haven’t got tickets. The thought of Villa fans staying to applaud him with his shiny bauble turns the stomach.
*vomits*
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I don't particularly want Citeh to win the league but when the other option is Liverpool and they've a Champions League final to come then I'm not overly bothered either way. Jack playing for one of them and winning a title isn't a factor for me at all.
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We'll be a goal up as we go into second half added time... and then Grealish will summon his inner Aguero.
Funnily enough, I've dreamt that City are winning 1-0 going into injury time, Liverpool are winning easily v Wolves, Villa get a corner, Mings' header is going wide when it hits Grealish, goes in for an equaliser, then ........I wake up and realise it'll be a routine City win.
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1st half in the VP match, we almost seemed scared of them, then after the interval, it was a much improved performance and we could have nicked a point in the end, so if we show that 2nd half performance for the full 90 mins, then who knows.
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3-0 to them.
Then it's the second half.
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I just can’t see us getting anything
I would love to be wrong - and I hope we am an at least make it nervy for them rather than it just being exhibition match for them come the end
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Everything I've read suggests we're going with a 1-0-0 formation today.
Steven Gerrard vs Manchester City.
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The shitty government here in Australia got kicked out yesterday so Villa beating this lot would make it a close to perfect weekend. And even if we lose it won’t kill my vibe.
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Grealish has been playing reasonably well lately, he will start I'd say. Sterling or Foden on the other flank
(Mahrez was dreadful v West Ham) and Jesus down the middle. Silva, KdB, Rodri in midfield.
Really don't think this is the day for our full backs to be pushed up very high. Likes of Grealish and Foden could have a field day if they do. Definitely not the day for a diamond midfield setup either or our full backs will be destroyed. Maybe try Ramsey somewhat on the left to see how he matches up v Walker. Buendia to front up against Cancelo on other side.
-----------Martinez
Cash, Chambers, Mings, Digne
Luiz, Nakamba, McGinn
Buendia, Watkins, Ramsey
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Probably the endorphins or the pre-workout talking. But...
All week the Scousers at work (it is Liverpool City centre to be fair) have been "ah Ads la, yous doin' us a favour? Is right". And I've been categoric that we are absolutely not. They're going to batter us, they always do, I've seen us win 3 times in 30 years there. They used to beat us when they were shit. Same at a party for one of the lads in Max's football team yesterday in St Helens. Loads of Kopites, are Villa doing it? Mega lulz absolutely not.
But in the back of my head there's a gnawing sound. A whisper, no more. In the most hushed of tones. "What if they don't score early? Their back 4 was shite last week. Nerves. What if...".
Fucking hard graft being an optimist and supporting us. Absolutely no hope, no expectations and now this shit.
We're getting the train in and my lad will be representing in his shirt, so we probably will win just to make it spicy walking back to town with the Stockport wankers after.
Champions of Europe, you'll never buy that.
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Ah well, after having to go to St Helens the weekend can only get better!
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Agreed, so long as Wolves win too. Brentford as well, please.
and Norwich and Arsenal too, please.
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If by some chance we were to scrape a draw, you know the scousers would fuck it up too.
in a way, that would be better than handing Liverpool the title, as it would’ve meant we’d done our bit, but Liverpool fkd up. I hadn’t thought of that scenario previously, but I quite like the thought of that now.
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See you later Ads..
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Today feels like an absolute hiding to nothing. It will be all city prematch, we are there to make up the numbers, be comfortably beaten, moneybags city will be lauded and get their title. And Mr Grealish potentially could score, you'd hope he wouldn't celebrate like Ings or a Robbie Keane but I think we all know he.probably would. I will be delighted If we avoid defeat but I can't see it and I'll be glad to have a break before it starts all over again in August. UTV but it will be a arduous day I fear.
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I think it's a case of how long can we hold out before they score.
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Its been a horror of a season - one to forget - full time and at least we can enjoy the summer while we wait for the transfer window to open. and then it all starts again :)
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I’ve got to be honest, I shall be more disappointed today if Leeds survive than I will be when we lose.
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Today feels like an absolute hiding to nothing. It will be all city prematch, we are there to make up the numbers, be comfortably beaten, moneybags city will be lauded and get their title. And Mr Grealish potentially could score, you'd hope he wouldn't celebrate like Ings or a Robbie Keane but I think we all know he.probably would. I will be delighted If we avoid defeat but I can't see it and I'll be glad to have a break before it starts all over again in August. UTV but it will be a arduous day I fear.
couple of fellas I know on here are going: Chico and Pat MacMahon. Just hope they have a great day in the rain (I nearly said sun then, but quickly remembered it’s Manchester). 1-1 or even better 1-2 would be fantastic, whilst simultaneously, Liverpool get a 1-1 draw at Anfield with the doghedz. Ace.
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I’ve got to be honest, I shall be more disappointed today if Leeds survive than I will be when we lose.
That's where I am, Richard. Loads of Leeds mates and one mate from Burnley who lives in Leeds. The thought of him walking around for the next year and being a reminder to their relegation would be perfect.
A great Villa performance today wouldn't go a miss mind. It's about time we gave somebody a real good hammering. Today would be ideal.
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I think it's a case of how long can we hold out before they score.
6 minutes is my guess.
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I think it's a case of how long can we hold out before they score.
6 minutes is my guess.
That long?
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Guess who thought KO was 2pm?
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I think it's a case of how long can we hold out before they score.
i think there’s a separate thread for that 😉
6 minutes is my guess.
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Guess who thought KO was 2pm?
Not sure, but I feel like it may be someone with a Red Dwarf-themed username.
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Guess who thought KO was 2pm?
kick off is 4pm 4:05pm, 4:10pm…
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I think it's a case of how long can we hold out before they score.
i think there’s a separate thread for that 😉
6 minutes is my guess.
You had one job bud.
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I suspect they might want this a bit more than us.
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Martinez out?
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Its been a horror of a season - one to forget - full time and at least we can enjoy the summer while we wait for the transfer window to open. and then it all starts again :)
Horror of a sesaon? What over the top nonsense.
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The horror season was 15/16 and the next two that followed and as we stayed relegated.
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Ooh look once it's finished can watch Drink it all in The Rise of Manchester City documentary..... ewwww.
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Its been a horror of a season - one to forget - full time and at least we can enjoy the summer while we wait for the transfer window to open. and then it all starts again :)
Horror of a sesaon? What over the top nonsense.
Not a good season by any stretch of the imagination. If we do pull off the improbable today it will change a lot of perceptions. But we won't, so we're left with failing to beat Palace and Burnley at home and finishing 14th.
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If this season had followed 19-20 it would look like a good one!
I blame Joe.
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Ooh look once it's finished can watch Drink it all in The Rise of Manchester City documentary..... ewwww.
Has that really been scheduled? Clearly Sky have about as much faith as I do.
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Its been a horror of a season - one to forget - full time and at least we can enjoy the summer while we wait for the transfer window to open. and then it all starts again :)
Horror of a sesaon? What over the top nonsense.
Not a good season by any stretch of the imagination. If we do pull off the improbable today it will change a lot of perceptions. But we won't, so we're left with failing to beat Palace and Burnley at home and finishing 14th.
being knocked out the play off final to find that HMRC has issued a winding up petition whilst the guy with the Payless shoes has sprinted back to Heathrow.
That’s a horrible one.
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Its right after the game ffs! You couldn't make this shit up.
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I've been busily trying to avoid the Liverpool or Man City wankfest But I accidentally caught the whiny nasaly sound of Trevor Sinclair saying how we've got no chance today. You'd of thought they were taking on Bury the way he was dismissing us. He then spoke in glowing terms about this "wonderful squad" and what a genius Pep is for getting them where they are. You would of thought they had scrimped and scraped and battled their way through the divisions if you were from Mars and didn't know that oil money is totally responsible for there current position. It's got me so wound up that I actually "want" Liverpool to win the title. And I fucking hate those arseholes.
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No shock, the sky panel reckon we are cannon fodder as well.
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Head says it's a non-starter and we'll get the customary drubbing, heart says that too many are writing us off and it will be a foregone conclusion that City lift the title, so we'll have something to say about that!
I'm going full Desmond with the scoreline, 2-2 with an injury time Coutinho equaliser! Dogheads are on the beach, Villa fans singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" at fulltime, and Benzema giving Van Dijk and co the run around next week to lift ole big ears.
UTV... and fuck City and their oil cash, plastic fans, twat of a manager and turncoat players! ;)
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Grealish on the bench.
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Olsen, Buendia and Coutinho starting
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Sky setting up Villa as losers ( thanks Roy)
And,
Gerrard ‘On our day we can surprise people’ 🤞
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Carragher pretty much saying we'll never be in a title winning position but we are in a special position to be part of something today. Wanker.
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Sky setting up Villa as losers ( thanks Roy)
And,
Gerrard ‘On our day we can surprise people’ 🤞
When's that then?
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Sky setting up Villa as losers ( thanks Roy)
And,
Gerrard ‘On our day we can surprise people’ 🤞
When's that then?
Thursday. That surprised me.
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Sky setting up Villa as losers ( thanks Roy)
And,
Gerrard ‘On our day we can surprise people’ 🤞
When's that then?
Thursday. That surprised me.
;D
I wish it surprised me.
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Sky setting up Villa as losers ( thanks Roy)
And,
Gerrard ‘On our day we can surprise people’ 🤞
When's that then?
Thursday. That surprised me.
;D
I wish it surprised me.
Hoping for a nice surprise today!
Perhaps Jack will come on and score for Villa, not such a nice surprise for MC.