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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on May 15, 2022, 01:08:00 PM
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Unchanged line up, fair enough.
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Buendia must be shit in training.
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I hope Buendiia doesn’t leave in the summer after he’s been treated so shoddily.
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Buendia should be in the side full stop
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Complete and utter nonsense from Gerrard regarding Buendia.
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Emi should be starting. DINLI😡
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If you can't play Buendia and Coutinho together against Palace at home, when can you?
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I hope Buendia is not as '*issed off' as yours truly is.
Anyways, come on the lads. 2-1.
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Fucking hell, play Buendia.
Don't like Gerrard.
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Fucking hell, play Buendia.
Don't like Gerrard.
Agreed.
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We'd better be amazing.
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Sanson will get injured putting his socks on.
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As expected, happy with that.
Surprised that it's a shock to some here that Coutinho is starting just days after he signed permanently for us.
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Very tough on Buendia, could be an entertaining match this going 2-1 Villa, the dynamic duo doing the damage.
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I thought we heard Buendia had a slight injury issue?
Of course the Gerrard haters out in force.
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Very tough on Buendia, could be an entertaining match this going 2-1 Villa, the dynamic duo doing the damage.
'The dynamic duo'? Ings and Fenton?
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I thought we heard Buendia had a slight injury issue?
Of course the Gerrard haters out in force.
I thought Watkins had the injury
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Win please.
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Of course the Gerrard haters out in force.
they're boring.
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Palace are a team that have never really bothered me but a 6-0 today would be ace.
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It will be a tough game and the first goal is vital. If we get it you may get something close to your 6-0, CCR.
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Wow, check out big ears on the holte
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It will be a tough game and the first goal is vital. If we get it you may get something close to your 6-0, CCR.
You have talked me into it. Risked £1 on 6 goals or more in the match at 65/1. Last of the big gamblers eh.
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Same thoughts as above, what more does Emi need to do to get a start?
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I thought we heard Buendia had a slight injury issue?
Of course the Gerrard haters out in force.
For suggesting one of our most in form players starts ahead of one who hasn't scored or assisted in 8ish games? Fuck me.
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Just win, please.
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Of course the Gerrard haters out in force.
they're boring.
Chortle!
I'll take it as a compliment.
Anyway, up the Villa and here's to three points
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Ings! Darn it!
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Silly Mings - poor
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Southampton Ings buries that
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Good chance there.
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Early cheap yellow for Mings. Yet another ricket.
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Early cheap yellow for Mings. Yet another ricket.
From our throw-in, too. That really gets my goat.
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Early cheap yellow for Mings. Yet another ricket.
From our throw-in, too. That really gets my goat.
Yeah me too, the goal we gave away to Liverpool was the same.
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Can see a red card today.They're dirty
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Early cheap yellow for Mings. Yet another ricket.
From our throw-in, too. That really gets my goat.
Yeah me too, the goal we gave away to Liverpool was the same.
I think that's why he made the foul.
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Fucking rubbish, so far.
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Any rivers available please
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Weird how people have different perspectives on things, I’d say it’s all Villa.
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Weird how people have different perspectives on things, I’d say it’s all Villa.
I'd say we started stronger but its been Palace for the last 5-10 mins
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Not sure why Mings got a yellow for a professional foul but both Zaha and Kouyate did the same to McGinn and it's just a free kick.
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They look sharper and more threatening than us.
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We are on the beach already.
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Any rivers available please
+1 please
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Our middle is leaking badly
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These long balls are a fucking delight.
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Any rivers available please
+1 please
2 please
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Phil is on Copacabana
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Not sure how McGinn can argue that.
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These long balls are a fucking delight.
Fair play to Ollie for chasing them down and trying to make something of it.
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Sanson yawning
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Ffs these misses are so costly
Ings really poor
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Scorenado!
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Languid passing around the halfway line, repeat for a bit, someone tries something too clever, in to touch or last resort long ball into acres of empty space.
Repeat.
Our ball retention is abysmal.
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Can see Mings getting a sloppy 2nd yellow
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Sanson yawning
Out for 6 weeks with a facial injury
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Ings carrying on where he left off.
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Languid passing around the halfway line, repeat for a bit, someone tries something too clever, in to touch or last resort long ball into acres of empty space.
Repeat.
Our ball retention is abysmal.
Roll on the summer and the chance to address this.
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Scorenado!
I’m not sure if my sky sports app Just told me a porky pie!
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That's two great chances for Ings and they've both missed the target. Not good enough at this level.
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Scorenado!
I’m not sure if my sky sports app Just told me a porky pie!
BBC too. They had an Ings miss down as a goal
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Scorenado!
I’m not sure if my sky sports app Just told me a porky pie!
Apparently it did. Oh well. Back to sitting down…
According to Sky, Ings scored on 34 minutes…
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Scorenado!
I’m not sure if my sky sports app Just told me a porky pie!
Apparently it did. Oh well. Back to sitting down…
According to Sky, Ings scored on 34 minutes…
He wasn’t far away from scoring.
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Luiz now on Fistral
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Being totally honest, here, this is crap.
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Luiz now on Fistral
Is that a porn site?
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Being totally honest, here, this is crap.
Agreed. Really boring.
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Being totally honest, here, this is crap.
Agreed. Really boring.
They've been the better side by a mile.
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I’d get Ramsey on for Dougie. A bit more energy and drive in that number 8 role
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Garbage. We are so ponderous
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Ramsey for Ings surely
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Our midfield isn’t working. Get Ings or Watkins off and get another body in there
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According to the BBC "John McGinn is pinging some great balls about" and "No goals yet but this has been as good a game as you can get without seeing goals. Open and plenty of chances.". Who to believe? ???
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Fuck off Zaha. Sulking prick.
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That's two unimpeded shots by Clyne.Why isn't Matty Cash doing the same?
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That's two unimpeded shots by Clyne.Why isn't Matty Cash doing the same?
Because he’s not had the chance :)
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Being totally honest, here, this is crap.
Agreed. Really boring.
They've been the better side by a mile.
I think so, too. They look fitter, more committed, and stronger.
Sort it out please, Steven.
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Ramsey > Luiz is inevitable I think but looks like we need to adapt our shape. They’re swamping the midfield and Coutinho is playing in front of Konsa & Mings.
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That's two unimpeded shots by Clyne.Why isn't Matty Cash doing the same?
Because he’s not had the chance :)
Ffs
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The biggest problem we have here is, like West Ham, they are niggly and nasty and we're struggling to handle it.
Zaha is their c**t-in-chief constantly moaning at the ref and nipping at players, the ref needs to tell him to fuck off.
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They definitely look a yard quicker all over the pitch. We have a dearth of pace.
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HT. Zero shots on target. Very poor performance. Midfield again the problem. Get one of the front two off and get Buendia on
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Ramsey and Buendia need to come on for second half.
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Fucking rubbish, so far.
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Watkins and Ings, that's the problem.
Aware it occasionally works but not often enough.
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That was shit. I'm sure someone has put a curse on Ings.
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Buendia is the only player we have who currently *will* make something happen. I'd take off a striker and a midfielder for him and we'd somehow still be a better side for it.
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Watkins and Ings, that's the problem.
Aware it occasionally works but not often enough.
Agreed, it's probably worked for a cumulative half hour over the course of the season.
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Ings should be in double figures with all the chances he's had in the last three games.
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Poor half. Very poor. This is where the manager needs to make a change at half time. 73 minutes just won’t do.
Very deflating after the positives of Liverpool.
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Ings needs to remember how to hit the target. Like the guy, but you don’t score if you keep shooting wide. McGinn and Luiz both look crocked or knackered. I’d get JJ on and maybe Buendia. Coutinho trying to get some passing going and trying some slide rule passing, that isn’t coming off, but don’t mind him trying as if one does it’s a shot at goal.
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I feel like im always having a go at Ings but he has got to score one of those 2 chances.
Apparently he is deadly in training but that doesn't translate to the match.
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Bowens the man. Imagine bowen for ings, wish we had signed him.
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European cup winners on the pitch.
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Sounds like a typical end of season kickabout.
Stream was buffering a bit so will probably stick the Leeds match on instead and watch them squirm a bit.
If we did win we'd actually be 4 points off 8th with two left (if Wolves don't comeback) so shows we're actually not that far away despite it being a very frustrating season from start to near finish.
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Is that Brendan Ormsby in the hat ?
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We look devoid of tactics up front. As someone else said, if a move comes off it feels more by accident than design.
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Anyone seen that video of Scott Parker's half time talk at Bournemouth's match against Forest?
I was quite impressed with how much he communicated and how he did it. I wonder if Gerrard is like that.
&t=6s
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Good grief, for about 30 seconds there we clearly had no idea what was going on.
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I doubt Edens will be impressed with what's being served up on the pitch.
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Nakamba is so poor with the ball at his feet. It's one thing to be a destructive force in that position, but if you're incapable of exerting a bit of control then you're doing less than half your job I'm afraid.
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Absolutely shit, hopeless long balls.
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We look like a shit Championship side at the moment.
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Bloody hell.
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We should have changed it and as we didn’t we need to now. Get Ramsey on. Our midfield is non existent.
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Nakamba clanger there was remarkably shit, even for him.
As Monty said, he does the 'stop them' bit, sometimes the 'get the ball off them' bit too, but fucking hopeless at the 'give the ball to one of our players' part.
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Well played, Chambers.
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Awful. Just awful. We seem incapable of keeping the ball and exerting any control. No game management on or off the park
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STOP fucking hoofing it you twats!
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Nakamba has been bright
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Hoofball. Is that really where we're up to now.
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This is pathetic.
Ramsay for Luiz and Buendia for Coutinho. Now, should have been done at HT I think.
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Nakamba has been bright
Yes, like a bin that's on fire.
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Nakamba has been bright
Yes, like a bin that's on fire.
What about Luiz? McGinn?
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That's better but nobody to finish it.
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Have we had a shot on target yet?
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Nakamba has been bright
Yes, like a bin that's on fire.
What about Luiz? McGinn?
Adjacent bin-fires, absolutely.
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It is now inevitable that Zaha will score.
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Has anybody told Ings or Watkins that strikers are meant to attack the ball when crosses come in. Couple of wet lettuces.
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Nakamba has been bright
Yes, like a bin that's on fire.
What about Luiz? McGinn?
They've been beyond poor.
Too many floaty/chipped/hoof type balls.
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How many fucking times do we lose the ball from our own throw ins?? Really boils my piss.
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How many fucking times do we lose the ball from our own throw ins?? Really boils my piss.
Isn't this what nanny McPhee was brought in to stop?
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Our best player is sitting on the bench. Driving me nuts.
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Make a fucking change, Gerrard!
They score, there is zero chance we take anything from this.
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Crowd singing for Buendia.
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Get Buendia on now
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Our best player is sitting on the bench. Driving me nuts.
Two of our best players are on the bench.
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This is pretty tepid stuff at best
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Gerrard is the one on the beach!!
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This is indescribably shit, just absolute fucking garbage.
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If Nakamba could make a pass he’d be half decent
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Nakamba puts us in all sorts of bother again.
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Nakamba is soooo shit. A liability on the ball. Get him off ffs.
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
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Take it Nakamba not doing too well?
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Luiz at DM. Great.
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Thank fuck for that. Get rid of Nakamba in the summer. Simply shit.
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Luiz at DM. Great.
Hopefully after the summer we will never have this situation again.
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If Nakamba could make a pass he’d be half decent
29 in January he's patiently not good enough glad he's subbed clearly won't improve his ability
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I agree - he hasn’t been great but he’s done no worse than the other 10. They have all been shit
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
Baiting? So we can’t call shit players shit now?!
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I have nothing against the bloke, absolutely runs his bollocks off, but I just don't think he's suited to the level - or, even if he is, not the style we play at it. A big summer upcoming in DM and CF.
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Christ, we don't even know how to get forward.
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Gooooaaaaallllllll
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GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Nakamba puts us in all sorts of bother again.
He's like a fan that wandered onto the pitch and joined in with the game
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Goooooaaal
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Goallllllllllllllllll - from nowhere mind
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If Nakamba could make a pass he’d be half decent
29 in January he's patiently not good enough glad he's subbed
He was our best players while he was recently injured and we had one of our our bad spells!
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Now that's what you call against the run of play.
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Ollieeeeee
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Ollie Ollie Ollie
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SCORENADO AT LAST! And this one is real!!
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Get in.
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
Baiting? So we can’t call shit players shit now?!
He's been hounded.Luiz hasn't had half the abuse and yet he is the number one shit stain in the midfield
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Get in, Ollie
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Amazing what happens when McGinn gets the ball in space and, instead of just hoofing into a general running area, actually starts a patient move. Great cross by Digne.
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
Baiting? So we can’t call shit players shit now?!
He's been hounded.Luiz hasn't had half the abuse and yet he is the number one shit stain in the midfield
He (Nakamba) has had an absolute stinker today.
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It might be an Oggy. Not sure!
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Is that an own goal from their defender?
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
Baiting? So we can’t call shit players shit now?!
He's been hounded.Luiz hasn't had half the abuse and yet he is the number one shit stain in the midfield
Let's be honest, they are both shit and will be offed in the summer. Massive upgrades required if we want to get into the top half.
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Digne much better than Target super delivery.
I would give Watkins that goal
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Buendia on at last.
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Great determination from Ollie.
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My stream suspiciously died just before the goal. Happens a lot.
Anyway, GET IN!!!
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Great ball and Watkins making a nuisance of himself.
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
Baiting? So we can’t call shit players shit now?!
He's been hounded.Luiz hasn't had half the abuse and yet he is the number one shit stain in the midfield
Baited?! Hounded?! Really?
I’m not at the ground so I don’t know what, if any, abuse he’s getting at the game, but from where I’m sitting and typing, he’s clearly still not good enough for the PL…and is a liability to the team on the pitch.
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Ramsey is a lot better than Luiz.
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Chambers has done really well since coming on.
Mcginn is so so poor.
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Ramsey is a lot better than Luiz.
He is such a positive player.
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If Nakamba could make a pass he’d be half decent
29 in January he's patiently not good enough glad he's subbed
He was our best players while he was recently injured and we had one of our our bad spells!
fair enough I don't see much of a player of much standard to me. I feel he'll be upgraded in the summer suggesting hes merely playing due to lack of alternative. Good luck to him just think he's a poor footballer
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This Nakamba baiting is nauseous
Baiting? So we can’t call shit players shit now?!
He's been hounded.Luiz hasn't had half the abuse and yet he is the number one shit stain in the midfield
Baited?! Hounded?! Really?
I’m not at the ground so I don’t know what, if any, abuse he’s getting at the game, but from where I’m sitting and typing, he’s clearly still not good enough for the PL…and is a liability to the team on the pitch.
He may or not be good enough, but the instant lumping on him is evident.On here.
As I said,other miscreants don't get the levels he does.For some reason or other.
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I'd be surprised if Nakamba was getting any grief at the ground, his defensive work was loudly appreciated against Liverpool.
We all know we need better, but our results are better with him than without him. I can't help but like the guy.
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The team is a lot more balanced and we look much better for it with those subs.
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Come on you Villa boys!
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My stream suspiciously died just before the goal. Happens a lot.
Anyway, GET IN!!!
Same here and I second your GET IN!!!
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Benteke on for palace. We should have got him back.
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A very talented player, Zaha, but what a ******. Nonstop ******.
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Bollocks.
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Fucking useless wankers.
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If Nakamba could make a pass he’d be half decent
29 in January he's patiently not good enough glad he's subbed
He was our best players while he was recently injured and we had one of our our bad spells!
fair enough I don't see much of a player of much standard to me. I feel he'll be upgraded in the summer suggesting hes merely playing due to lack of alternative. Good luck to him just think he's a poor footballer
I think you’ve misunderstood me. I agree.
While he was out injured his form got better in our heads because we haven’t got a natural number six. You’re quite right, he’s not good enough, but we need to fill that position this summer. It’s been a huge problem for years really.
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Fuck it
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Poosticks
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Two of ours let him through to prod that in.
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Awful business with that defending.
Poor discipline giving away free kicks.
Can't defend.
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FFS
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Bolx.
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Just when we were looking good.
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Groan
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Stream didn't die for that one of course, oh no.
C**t.
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Luiz getting out the way of the cross there.Nice one Dougie.
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We are so non dangerous in front of the goal
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We had a good spell after the goal but they have been much better than us overall. One shot on target from us apparently?
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Luiz getting out the way of the cross there.Nice one Dougie.
He's nearly as bad as Nakamba (joking). He's worse!
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If you had to point the finger at one player for this shit performance, it has to be Nakamba.
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If you had to point the finger at one player for this shit performance, it has to be Nakamba.
Unbelievable.
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We’ve been quite poor across the pitch, I thought there would be a buzz after the news of signing Phil. It’s been the opposite
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
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We had a good spell after the goal but they have been much better than us overall. One shot on target from us apparently?
Without Watkins would offer no goal threat at all yet some have been criticising him still
I mean unless we sign Lewandowski or Suarez we should really appreciate what we have with Ollie
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
Especially Nakamba.
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The team like the stream I’m watching on are a bit iffy.
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And let’s be honest he has always been pretty dreadful bar a couple of early performances under SG
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We’ve been quite poor across the pitch, I thought there would be a buzz after the news of signing Phil. It’s been the opposite
Totally on Nakamba, sadly.
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
Especially Nakamba.
Ah, see what you're doing now
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McGinn is so ill disciplined should have been booked today another season where he hasn't learnt. He Mings and Cash get far too many yellows
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
Especially Nakamba.
*snigger*
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
Especially Nakamba.
Ah, see what you're doing now
Finally!
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This has got a Zaha winner all over it hasn’t it?
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This has got a Zaha winner all over it hasn’t it?
Yep.
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
Especially Nakamba.
Ah, see what you're doing now
Finally!
Ok,back under your bridge now
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2 shots on target against Palace. Pathetic.
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The whole midfield needs rebuilding.
Especially Nakamba.
Ah, see what you're doing now
Finally!
I had a reply all typed out but thought twice haha
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Nakamba really making a mess of this.
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Some nice play and a bit of energy there, finally.
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The team like the stream I’m watching on are a bit iffy.
Well I'm glad you can see that because I've noted how generally Villa don't seem to have an attacking verve and many a half of football we hardly get at the goal with a shot.
Not sure what SG idea is when he has us doing this sort of play like today and past matches. Possession based with no cutting thrust.
Let's hope for a great window to improve as SG won't look to change much of his approach to games.
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And we can't hit the target
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That pass from Buendia was fantastic. That’s why he needs to start
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Ollie does an Ings.
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That pass from Buendia was fantastic. That’s why he needs to start
Fully agree. He's the only one we have who does that.
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That pass from Buendia was fantastic. That’s why he needs to start
We all know this apart from SG.
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Great ball Emi, shit shot Watkins.
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Crap.
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Buendia's quick feet then on the edge of the box!
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Bar the last 10, 15 minutes, absolutely rubbish.
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Buendia plays with an intensity that we just don't seem to have when he's not on the pitch.
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This thread is a joke.
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Buendia a bag of energy and intensity, and also quality. I wasn't convinced when he first signed but he needs to be on the pitch. He did more than most.
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Ollie does an Ings.
Ollie generally needs 5 chances to hit the target. That said, Ings should have had a brace first half. We desperately need a decent striker in the summer.
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Buendia is our best player by a country mile at the moment. We are so much more dangerous when he's on the pitch and Gerrard absolutely has to find a way to start him.
Incidentally, can we have a new song for him please? "Away" doesn't rhyme with "Road" and the pedant in me can't handle it!!!
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Shit.
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Don’t think it was a bad result - considering we weren’t great - feels like the kind of game we would have lost not soo long ago
Thought Ings was poor today - as he missed two good chances - and he didn’t really do any linkup
Thought PC got drawn too deep too often and we gave the ball away. McGinn Luiz and Naka are capable of having good games but thought Nakamba and Luiz weren’t great
Thought chambers was an improvement on Konsa