Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Walmley_Villa on April 28, 2022, 02:57:56 PM
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Wed May 18th 10:30pm
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/bt-sport-announces-super-villans-premiere-date/5169913.article (https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/bt-sport-announces-super-villans-premiere-date/5169913.article)
Apologies if posted elsewhere
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Hope Mark Wiliams gets to throw-in some of his Fast Show catch-phrases.
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https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1519270381621633026/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1519270381621633026/photo/1)
Sid , Des and maybe Jimmy would need a good spell in the Gym to bulk up to that size . Ron Saunders looked like that anyway !
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If you dont have a BT Sport account is there any way of seeing this? can it be a pay per view thing?
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https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1519270381621633026/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1519270381621633026/photo/1)
Sid , Des and maybe Jimmy would need a good spell in the Gym to bulk up to that size . Ron Saunders looked like that anyway !
He did indeed. Looked fitter than all of the players of that era, absolute beast of a physique.
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If you dont have a BT Sport account is there any way of seeing this? can it be a pay per view thing?
I think you can buy a month sports pass for £25 , which is a bit steep. I am sure someone on here , nearer the time will advise a cheaper option. (hopefully!)
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If you dont have a BT Sport account is there any way of seeing this? can it be a pay per view thing?
I think you can buy a month sports pass for £25 , which is a bit steep. I am sure someone on here , nearer the time will advise a cheaper option. (hopefully!)
Thank you
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Wed May 18th 10:30pm
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/bt-sport-announces-super-villans-premiere-date/5169913.article (https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/bt-sport-announces-super-villans-premiere-date/5169913.article)
Apologies if posted elsewhere
Thanks will check that out.
I realised thats not tonight ! Oh!
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Looking forward to seeing this tonight.
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10:30 on a school night, prime time viewing.
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Of course, when a villa documentary finally came along it would have to be on a channel that isn't easy to access.
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What's the running time on this - an hour and a half with ad breaks?
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Starting at 10.45 according to our TV
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Now looks like it's been pushed out to 11:00 tonight with a 1 hour 15 minute run time.
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Of course, when a villa documentary finally came along it would have to be on a channel that isn't easy to access.
This!
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I don’t have the facility to record programmes so a late night ahead. Do we think it may get a repeat at some point in case I fall asleep?
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You can watch it on catch up or on demand section of your smart tv.
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Also says it's being repeated next Weds (25th) at 6.15pm mate.
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Guessing this ending 1-1 will delay the broadcast of our documentary
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It's moved to 11.45pm tonight on BT Sport 1
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If you don't feel Jimmy Rimmers pain you ain't human.
Bless him
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If you don't feel Jimmy Rimmers pain you ain't human.
Bless him
Personally, I had something in my eye at the bit where Tony Barton was talking about his name not being in the programme
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If you don't feel Jimmy Rimmers pain you ain't human.
Bless him
Enjoyed it thoroughly. I think (I hope I am wrong) that Jimmy Rimmer will never understand what a part he played in Villa winning the European Cup and more importantly being a member of Aston Villa's greatest ever football team.
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If you don't feel Jimmy Rimmers pain you ain't human.
Bless him
Enjoyed it thoroughly. I think (I hope I am wrong) that Jimmy Rimmer will never understand what a part he played in Villa winning the European Cup and more importantly being a member of Aston Villa's greatest ever football team.
Was there at all the home games and the final. Just watched it on BT Sport. Bless Jimmy he still feels it. But my god on reflection it was Tony Morley throughout won it for us through all the rounds.
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Any way to see it without BT?
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Any way to see it without BT?
I don’t think there is mate, they stream some things on YouTube but that’s just for live stuff, I’m sure someone will record it, copy it and have it uploaded to YouTube or the like before long though.
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Any way to see it without BT?
I don’t think there is mate, they stream some things on YouTube but that’s just for live stuff, I’m sure someone will record it, copy it and have it uploaded to YouTube or the like before long though.
I really hope so.
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Any way to see it without BT?
I don’t think there is mate, they stream some things on YouTube but that’s just for live stuff, I’m sure someone will record it, copy it and have it uploaded to YouTube or the like before long though.
I really hope so.
Back in the day we'd have had the opportunity to buy it on VHS or Betamax.
Would live to see it though at some point.
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Wonderful programme. I'd completely forgotten about the crowd trouble against Anderlecht and the possibility we might have been kicked out of the competition. Wasn't the chap who was on the pitch reportedly serving for the army in Europe somewhere and not even a Villa fan, or is that bollox? I thought Rimmer cut a very troubled soul appearance. He was similar at the 25th Anniversary at VP maybe it was just edited that way, maybe a bit of both.
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Any way to see it without BT?
I don’t think there is mate, they stream some things on YouTube but that’s just for live stuff, I’m sure someone will record it, copy it and have it uploaded to YouTube or the like before long though.
I really hope so.
Back in the day we'd have had the opportunity to buy it on VHS or Betamax.
Would live to see it though at some point.
I used to have The Official History and Villa Park 100 Years on VHS. Had hoped they would have made it to youtube but they haven't...progress, eh?
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Any way to see it without BT?
I don’t think there is mate, they stream some things on YouTube but that’s just for live stuff, I’m sure someone will record it, copy it and have it uploaded to YouTube or the like before long though.
I really hope so.
Back in the day we'd have had the opportunity to buy it on VHS or Betamax.
Would live to see it though at some point.
I used to have The Official History and Villa Park 100 Years on VHS. Had hoped they would have made it to youtube but they haven't...progress, eh?
Same here.
I still have all of the season reviews somewhere along with some video diary things aswell.
It's a shame that they haven't found their way onto YouTube or some other method.
I guess it's a copyright issue even after all these years.
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YT would probably just remove it anyway.
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It reminded me of a few things
What a cock end Gary Newbon was focusing on the fan trouble
Just how cool Ron Saunders was with the media - also what a tough bastard he was
How he basically told Andy Gray to do one and then built a team with the proceeds.
How he committed the ultimate sin in joining the shower down the road yet we still hold him dear rather than hate him (Think of all the other losers that have gone that way)
How the fuck did Mortimer not get an England cap?
How much the marketing / media of football has changed - the AGM on a makeshift scaffolded stage - laughable
How a few of them heroes will probably not be around for the 50 years celebration.
Wonderful film - pity i could not record it due to the overun of the match but at least it is to be repeated.
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I couldn;t watch it last night, but do have BT sport app on a firestick so couldn;t record, is it the sort of show they have on the homepage to watch again on demand?
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Just watched it. Bloody marvellous. Some eye openers in there also, like the bottle of brandy Ron had in the dressing room before every match which he encouraged the players to take a pre match swig to put some "fire in the belly" Seeing Jimmy Rimmer in tears was gut wrenching but he did more than most to get us there in the first place especially with his miraculous save from the penalty rebound against Dynamo Berlin. Tony Gubba's interview with Tony Barton after the game was horrible. Barton was smiling from ear to ear obviously and Gubba asked him if he'd seen the programme and would he be keeping it as a souvenir. He the heartlessly pointed out that Saunders picture was in it instead of his. You could see the joy drain out of Tony Bartons face. I really felt for him, that was totally unnecessary. But it was a great watch warts and all which bought back some long forgotten memories. We were Kings of all Europe and that can never be taken away from us.
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Just watched it. Bloody marvellous. Some eye openers in there also, like the bottle of brandy Ron had in the dressing room before every match which he encouraged the players to take a pre match swig to put some "fire in the belly" Seeing Jimmy Rimmer in tears was gut wrenching but he did more than most to get us there in the first place especially with his miraculous save from the penalty rebound against Dynamo Berlin. Tony Gubba's interview with Tony Barton after the game was horrible. Barton was smiling from ear to ear obviously and Gubba asked him if he'd seen the programme and would he be keeping it as a souvenir. He the heartlessly pointed out that Saunders picture was in it instead of his. You could see the joy drain out of Tony Bartons face. I really felt for him, that was totally unnecessary. But it was a great watch warts and all which bought back some long forgotten memories. We were Kings of all Europe and that can never be taken away from us.
Absolutely superb documentary, shame it can't be bought, I'd watch it again. The quality of some of the archive footage was far superior to some I've got on DVD. Especially the footage from the final day of the season at Highbury. Was the implication from Sid and Morely that they visited a brothel in Rotterdam the day before the final?? Really felt for Jimmy Rimmer, he doesn't seem to realise how amazing he was getting Villa to the final in the first place.
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It's really well put together. Sensitively done, and Mark Williams is a great choice as narrator.
Great insights from the team of what went on behind the scenes, and a real tear-jerker in places seeing Sid's eyes sparkle again at the memories. And a real sense of that team being there for each other still after all these years. No greater compliment to Saunders than the togetherness that shines through 40 years on. Watched it on the train up to the game yesterday, and was in bits by the end credits.
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Is it going to be repeated?
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
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Just watched it. Bloody marvellous. Some eye openers in there also, like the bottle of brandy Ron had in the dressing room before every match which he encouraged the players to take a pre match swig to put some "fire in the belly" Seeing Jimmy Rimmer in tears was gut wrenching but he did more than most to get us there in the first place especially with his miraculous save from the penalty rebound against Dynamo Berlin. Tony Gubba's interview with Tony Barton after the game was horrible. Barton was smiling from ear to ear obviously and Gubba asked him if he'd seen the programme and would he be keeping it as a souvenir. He the heartlessly pointed out that Saunders picture was in it instead of his. You could see the joy drain out of Tony Bartons face. I really felt for him, that was totally unnecessary. But it was a great watch warts and all which bought back some long forgotten memories. We were Kings of all Europe and that can never be taken away from us.
Absolutely superb documentary, shame it can't be bought, I'd watch it again. The quality of some of the archive footage was far superior to some I've got on DVD. Especially the footage from the final day of the season at Highbury. Was the implication from Sid and Morely that they visited a brothel in Rotterdam the day before the final?? Really felt for Jimmy Rimmer, he doesn't seem to realise how amazing he was getting Villa to the final in the first place.
Absolutely. He was immense for us. I bet he doesn't even know how much he means to us. I'd love him to hear us singing the 12 days of Christmas song about the European Cup win. He's the only one who's name is sung in every one of those 12 verses. And that interview with Ron Saunders after the home defeat to Ipswich is the stuff of legends. And i'd love them to find room in or around the ground for a banner which simply reads "do you wana bet against us" With Ron's picture wearing his light blue tracksuit top with the claret lion on it.
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
It’s in catch up now and I believe it’s on again on 26th at 6:15 pm.
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
It’s in catch up now and I believe it’s on again on 26th at 6:15 pm.
I've just watched half of it, on demand via the app.
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
It’s in catch up now and I believe it’s on again on 26th at 6:15 pm.
It is and a recording reminder is set.
Could you imagine that we could of been the team that lost both FA cup and European cups !!!
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Just watched it, superb. Great soundtrack too, brought back so many memories of my 16 to 17 year old self.
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
It’s in catch up now and I believe it’s on again on 26th at 6:15 pm.
It is and a recording reminder is set.
Could you imagine that we could of been the team that lost both FA cup and European cups !!!
We've lost more FA cups than Small Heath have won
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Just watched it, superb. Jimmy Rimmer part was a hard watch but what a legend.
Anyone on here go to the Anderlecht away match?
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
It’s in catch up now and I believe it’s on again on 26th at 6:15 pm.
It is and a recording reminder is set.
Could you imagine that we could of been the team that lost both FA cup and European cups !!!
We've lost more FA cups than Small Heath have won
And we've lost more European Cups than Arsenal, Man City and Tottenham between them have won.
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Just watched it, superb. Great soundtrack too, brought back so many memories of my 16 to 17 year old self.
The sound track was nailed on for the music. Especially when we had to play Dynamo Kyiev in Crimea! Depeche Mode.
Even footage of our supporters saying how bad the hotels were there, top marks to those lads.
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Just watched it. Bloody marvellous. Some eye openers in there also, like the bottle of brandy Ron had in the dressing room before every match which he encouraged the players to take a pre match swig to put some "fire in the belly" Seeing Jimmy Rimmer in tears was gut wrenching but he did more than most to get us there in the first place especially with his miraculous save from the penalty rebound against Dynamo Berlin. Tony Gubba's interview with Tony Barton after the game was horrible. Barton was smiling from ear to ear obviously and Gubba asked him if he'd seen the programme and would he be keeping it as a souvenir. He the heartlessly pointed out that Saunders picture was in it instead of his. You could see the joy drain out of Tony Bartons face. I really felt for him, that was totally unnecessary. But it was a great watch warts and all which bought back some long forgotten memories. We were Kings of all Europe and that can never be taken away from us.
Absolutely superb documentary, shame it can't be bought, I'd watch it again. The quality of some of the archive footage was far superior to some I've got on DVD. Especially the footage from the final day of the season at Highbury. Was the implication from Sid and Morely that they visited a brothel in Rotterdam the day before the final?? Really felt for Jimmy Rimmer, he doesn't seem to realise how amazing he was getting Villa to the final in the first place.
Absolutely. He was immense for us. I bet he doesn't even know how much he means to us. I'd love him to hear us singing the 12 days of Christmas song about the European Cup win. He's the only one who's name is sung in every one of those 12 verses. And that interview with Ron Saunders after the home defeat to Ipswich is the stuff of legends. And i'd love them to find room in or around the ground for a banner which simply reads "do you wana bet against us" With Ron's picture wearing his light blue tracksuit top with the claret lion on it.
Jimmy was an unused substitute in Utd's 1968 winning team so probably extra miffed to miss out again
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Praying this finds it's way to YouTube or similar.
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Cam we get this on BluRay or some streamer pls
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Is it going to be repeated?
It's not in their schedule at the moment, and is only available on demand until the start of June. Really annoyed at that, as BT boxes failed to record it because the Rangers final went to extra time.
It’s in catch up now and I believe it’s on again on 26th at 6:15 pm.
Wednesday 25th, 6.15pm.
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Thank you. I missed it first time round.
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Praying this finds it's way to YouTube or similar.
Yep, havent got BT and would love to watch this.
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Just watched it, superb. Jimmy Rimmer part was a hard watch but what a legend.
Anyone on here go to the Anderlecht away match?
Oh yeah.That trip would make a brilliant Awaydays type film.What a blast.
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I've screen recorded this to .mp4, quality is good..
Because the Rangers game ran over on BT, it's 2 files. If anyone can join them together, it's just under 2 gb.
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There's a Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/usqqu2/super_villans_bt_sport_documentary_18th_may_2022/) thread discussing viewing the programme.
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I've screen recorded this to .mp4, quality is good..
Because the Rangers game ran over on BT, it's 2 files. If anyone can join them together, it's just under 2 gb.
https://we.tl/t-9DboA1EuUI
Thank you.
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Just watched it, superb. Jimmy Rimmer part was a hard watch but what a legend.
Anyone on here go to the Anderlecht away match?
Oh yeah.That trip would make a brilliant Awaydays type film.What a blast.
That was only my second trip abroad, if you discount the annual trip to the family in Dublin, and we had an absolute blast. Left on Monday night by coach, arrived Tuesday and had a blast with 4000 Villa fans in Brussels then home on the Thursday afternoon. The skirmishes in the ground were well documented but there was no trouble elsewhere (that we were aware of) and we had good crack with Anderlecht fans in the centre after the game.
For 2-3 days it was absolutely brilliant bumping into people we knew from home, all following the Villa for years, including dodgy away days. We were 19, champions of England, there was a vibrant music scene in Brum and we were on the way to becoming champions of Europe. I just wish all the younger fans who’ve known little success in the past 25 years get to taste something like this. It was intoxicating.
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I've screen recorded this to .mp4, quality is good..
Because the Rangers game ran over on BT, it's 2 files. If anyone can join them together, it's just under 2 gb.
https://we.tl/t-9DboA1EuUI
Thank you
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There's a Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/usqqu2/super_villans_bt_sport_documentary_18th_may_2022/) thread discussing viewing the programme.
I'd be careful with the reddit link folks . Malwarebytes and my anti virus is blocking it . Not a dig at you Jean Quereue-Quereue . I'm pleased it looks like it will end up online from Gerrin and Jean Quereue-Quereue posts
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I've screen recorded this to .mp4, quality is good..
Because the Rangers game ran over on BT, it's 2 files. If anyone can join them together, it's just under 2 gb.
https://we.tl/t-9DboA1EuUI
Thank you.
The WeTransfer link should be available for 7 days.
I don't have the software to join the files together, but it would be great to have as one file if anyone can edit.Thanks.
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Just downloading it now to watch tomorrow afternoon.
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I will try and merge the files next week.
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Thanks. I've watched it 5 times already. But would still like the full mp4 of this, if possible.
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Ace. Thank you.
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Cheers Gerrin. Top man
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I'm about half-way through watching it. Truly wonderful. Am I OK to put the link on our FB Page and Group as well as upload it to YT?
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That was a great watch and great to re-live it all again. Thank you for doing that for those of us that don't have BT.
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I'm about half-way through watching it. Truly wonderful. Am I OK to put the link on our FB Page and Group as well as upload it to YT?
Certainly, feel free to share wherever.
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Cheers Gerrin, much appreciated!
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Thanks Gerrin, I’ve just watched it. Such wonderful, cherished memories!
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thank you Gerrin! Will be sticking this on a USB for my Dad to try to play too!
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YT pulled it before it even got published!
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They've removed Kunt and the Gang, too. The bastards.
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YT pulled it before it even got published!
Why haven't the official history and the Villa Park 100 years ever made it to youtube? Would it be the same problem as here?
The Club should make those classics available. There is very little good villa content to reminisce on
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I'd like an updated Villa history documentary but, preferably, when we have actually bloody won something again. Ideally before our 150th birthday. No rush, lads...
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Cheers Gerrin. Top man
Couldn't sleep tonight so what to do? Watch the BT documentary of course. It was superb with lots of new footage and of course the interviews with the 81/82 legends. Consider myself v lucky to have been a ST holder during the 80/81 and 81/82 seasons and even more so to have been at Highbury and Rotterdam as a 16 and 17 yr old. Got pretty emotional watching that and thinking of the mates I shared those times with. Great days indeed.
Thanks again to Gerrin for his work
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I like to see the club commission a remastered Blu-ray of the European Cup final. Amazing things can be done these days with old footage. It'd be great to see it with rich colours and a much sharper image. The DVD released some years ago wasn't that great quality. Obviously they'd need to work on the original master tape from ITV.
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Cheers Gerrin. Top man
Couldn't sleep tonight so what to do? Watch the BT documentary of course. It was superb with lots of new footage and of course the interviews with the 81/82 legends. Consider myself v lucky to have been a ST holder during the 80/81 and 81/82 seasons and even more so to have been at Highbury and Rotterdam as a 16 and 17 yr old. Got pretty emotional watching that and thinking of the mates I shared those times with. Great days indeed.
Thanks again to Gerrin for his work
Glad you enjoyed it, I have to say it's probably the best Villa documentary I've seen. Far too good to be hidden away on a subscription channel for only a few to see. The Highbury section was the highlight for me. 15,000 Villa fans in the clock end looked absolutely insane.
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Thanks Gerrin I will download for posterity! I watched the 1st half on demand on BT last night. My missus hates football but even she got into it and thought it was great. it was a great insight for her into my teenage life!!
It's the best thing I've seen on TV in years!!
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Thanks so much for downloading the documentary, fantastic memories of those years and wonderful times to be an Aston Villa fan, still brings a tear to my eye seeing the Peter Withe goal.
How can a football club mean so much to me!!!
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Thanks so much Gerrin. Just downloaded as we boarded a flight!!
Suitably airdropped to my IPad for the perfect in flight viewing !
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YT pulled it before it even got published!
Leeg, you could try Dailymotion?
Gerrin - thank you so much for this! I purchased a month long sub to BT Sport with a view to trying to screen record this but it was so low framerate when I watched it back. Thanks so much for sorting this!
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Discussion of illegal activities such as software and music piracy and other intellectual property violations are not allowed.
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Can't thank you enough Gerrin - thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Forum rules are clear.
Discussion of illegal activities such as software and music piracy and other intellectual property violations are not allowed.
I know why the forum does this and obviously fair enough. As a general point though I can’t help thinking that requiring people to have massive clobbering subscriptions to everything that TV/Streaming companies are asking for it.
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Just watched it. Absolutely outstanding film from start to finish. A brilliant actor and Villa fan narrating it, generous highlights and rare footage, the cracking stories (Morley and Saunders' on-going rows!), poor Jimmy Rimmer's tears, the contemporary ever-shifting soundtrack (a sure sign that the programme had a decent budget) and the lovely tribute at the end to three of the men involved who have since passed-on.
Plus, there was enough quirky animation to nudge any kids in your life towards getting the Villa bug. Only thing I could criticise it for was no mention of Sir Brian when discussing Villa's ascent in the late-70s, concentrating on Andy Gray alone.
9/10 and thanks so much Gerrin for organising the download.
40 years on, I missed out on those days due to being T-2.5 years old but documents like this make me proud to be a Villan.
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In a sense, it was great to see so many of them getting so emotional about those times/games.
They cared as much as us!
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In a sense, it was great to see so many of them getting so emotional about those times/games.
They cared as much as us!
I pretty certain they still do.
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I've yet to see this, I will at some point.
When the players came out before the Palace game and the Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie was played it hit me like a hammer how much that period meant to me. I was only 10/11 but it was the foundation of my support, where there was no cynicism, bitterness or negativity, just starry eyed wonder at these heroes and their achievements. I'm sure it happens with every child when they first watch their team, and why I felt so much for those kids who worshiped Joe only for him to turn his back on them.
These players are the last of a certain generation as well. No big money or lavish lifestyle and that's reflected in the fact that they have a special bond with the fans that sees them happy to rub shoulders with us in the clubs and pubs around Villa Park.
We, whether as kids like me or adults at the time, are so very lucky to have lived through a time of exceptional success achieved by exceptional players and we should continue to cherish it and the club should never take it for granted.
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Just watched it again. Bloody brilliant, absolutely bloody brilliant.
Smiles, laughs, tears, everything. But pride, that's the most overriding feeling.
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Thanks Gerrin.
Just watched the ITV match broadcast via Villa TV - with Jimmy Greaves, Ron Atkinson, Brian Clough, and Brian Moore giving us those immortal words.
I'd never seen the whole game before.
That and the BT Sport Documentary took me right back 80-81 and then on to De Kuip for that marvellous, nervous, triumphant Wednesday evening.
Wonderful memories.
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Thanks Gerrin! What a great watch - I've seen Withe score that goal countless times and yet I still got a little wet-eyed.
Jimmy Rimmer - wow! he still seems haunted by having had to come off.
I'm honoured to have lived my formative years during Villa's greatest successes, from 1970 through to 1982. At the time I assumed that the 1981-83 period was just the start of a golden age of continued success: I now know, of course, that I was privileged to be in the flower of my youth during Villa's greatest moments. I would still die happy tomorrow with that knowledge ... but I do yearn to see another golden age.
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Were there any performances in the league in 81/82 that gave any hope we could actually do it in Europe or were we generally quite flat?
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Were there any performances in the league in 81/82 that gave any hope we could actually do it in Europe or were we generally quite flat?
There were a lot of injuries, the obvious upheavals which we didn't know about at the time and looking back I wonder if Ron Saunders in achieving his ambition may have lost a bit of his drive.
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It was a very strange season. The optimism of a repeat of the previous year went very quickly, losing 3-0 to newly promoted Notts County in the first game. Injuries left the team disjointed - whisper it but imo if we'd had a couple of key injuries in the previous season we wouldn't have got anywhere near winning the league, the squad wasn't that great. If we hadn't won the European Cup the season would have been a disaster. Standing on the Holte a few months after winning the league with 15 odd thousand in the ground just after Saunders had left was very strange. Then Saunders joined Blues, he became the hate figure for a while and Barton (who came from nowhere, MacLaren was the assistant we all knew) took us to Rotterdam.
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...and if Super Villans wasn't enough for you, VillaTV just released "When Lions Roared" which is of a similar nature and is also awesome...
https://video.avfc.co.uk/video/dm9kJTdDMF91YWdnOG42aCU3QyUyRnNlY3Rpb24lM0ZzbHVnJTNEaG9tZSU3Q2hvbWUlMkZoZXJvX2Nhcm91c2Vs?lang=en
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Wow...similar running time too (i.e feature-length). Is it an in-house production? Curious as to how it compares, if anyone has had time to check it out yet.
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It does appear to be in-house, but that does not detract from the quality. Obviously repeats a lot of the Super Villans documentary given it is the same people discussing the same events, but it is a good watch nonetheless.
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Loved SV. These players were so good on and off the pitch.
Some minor quibbles:
1. Great play was made of Jimmy's penalty-rebound save in Berlin. His save against Anderlecht in the SF was far better.
2. His fine save in the home tie against Dynamo was very important, but why didn't they show footage of the many near-misses we had in the first-half, where it was almost impossible to believe we didn't score?
3. Didn't think too much of the cartoon images.
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Those cartoons will win us a new legion of young Villans!
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Those cartoons will win us a new legion of young Villans!
I doubt it. The Tony Barton one still haunts my dreams now.
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Watched both programs over the last couple of days….absolutely wonderful.
Watching Jimmy shedding tears, even now is heart rending.
The memories of being in Victoria Square, both times, still gives me goosebumps.
Does anyone know why Gary Williams doesn’t feature in either program ?
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On a slight tangent I got to spend yesterday evening in Truro with Peter Withe and the Cornwall Lions. Peter was a lovely chap and also bought along a replica of the European Cup for photos etc.
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The Gary Williams thing always gets me. After all the games he played for us, I don't think I ever saw him being interviewed once!
He was a fine player, in at least three different positions.
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Further to this, wasn't he the only player to take part in the final not to be interviewed?
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On a slight tangent I got to spend yesterday evening in Truro with Peter Withe and the Cornwall Lions. Peter was a lovely chap and also bought along a replica of the European Cup for photos etc.
Great stuff. Had a lovely night with him & the London Lions back in 2018.
I just watched the rest of the BT doc.
Sitting hear very moist eyed.
Thanks again to the one that made it accessible to me, the documentary that is. Much appreciated Gerrin.
That makes me think of how my Dad and how he did that for everything, to have had ST for these years, to have been at all the big occasions. The tear gassing of families in Paris yesterday etc, it reminds me of how unexpected that sort of thing is now, and in a way how known a thing it was back then. I remember being terrified getting knocked off sitting on a crash barrier in the Clock End, but beyond that I can't remember us having too many problems. Thank goodness my Dad did a bit of positive risk taking as it'd be seen then and took me along. Life is chaos with little kids etc, but all being well we'll be off to the childhood haunt of Pembrokeshire with my old folks in 5 weeks. I think I need to ensure I get chance for some proper reminiscing with my Dad one evening, maybe watching again.
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Those dogs with their handlers/Dutch police at the edge of the pitch was a grim reminder of how football crowds were policed back then.
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Those dogs with their handlers/Dutch police at the edge of the pitch was a grim reminder of how football crowds were policed back then.
Back then the fans were a little more aggressive, in my opinion, weren't they?
Today, football crowds are not as heavily controlled, but the responsibility has been placed on the clubs.
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When we disembarked in Ostend in 1982, we were shunted in a long column through a series of corridors that to my knowledge wasn't the main ferry terminal until we reached the coaches to take us to Rotterdam lined up dockside.
These corridors, from memory, had a couple of double swing doors in them. At each point there was two Belgian coppers, one was a dog handler and the other had a sub-machine gun which he had no problem pointing at us and no doubt been equally as happy to use on us had he felt the need arise. Scary. Anyone else remember that?
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On BT Sport 2 tonight at 9pm
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I remember coming back we were herded into what looked like an old warehouse in either Dunkirk or calisthenics. We managed to escape and have a great night on the piss.