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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Towser on March 30, 2022, 08:22:27 AM
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Just saw this on twitter, dont know how accurate it is
Manchester United to play three games in Australia - v Melbourne Victory and Aston Villa in Melbourne and v Aston Villa in Perth. Games scheduled for mid July.
https://twitter.com/Gatty54/status/1509043586096332801
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Looks like we have a pre-season tour of Australia playing two friendlies against Man United in Perth and Melbourne.
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Strewth!
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Finally we can follow in Ross McCormack's fat footsteps.
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Another year passes without a visit to the Emerald Isle. :( I miss Big Ron.
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Another year passes without a visit to the Emerald Isle. :( I miss Big Ron.
The last couple of times we played over there was under O'Neil and Lambert, the latter being against Shamrock Rovers.
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Even Dolly O'Dreary came to Tolka for a weekend tournament in...2003(?). Probably felt like he was slumming it, the fickle fecker.
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Went to Leipzeg, and i was thinking of going to a pre-season game abroad, but Australia is a bit to far
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Why go and play there? Jet lag etc. surely make it a bit of a pain, and it's not exactly an emerging market. I'd have thought the States or Asia would have been more likely. Shows what I know.
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Why go and play there? Jet lag etc. surely make it a bit of a pain, and it's not exactly an emerging market. I'd have thought the States or Asia would have been more likely. Shows what I know.
Yes, I can't imagine it's really sensible preparation with jet lag, season change etc, and nowadays there is no need to go all that way to play a friendly or two, especially if clubs really care about costs and the environment.
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Looks like it's our turn to be the Washington Generals.
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Another year passes without a visit to the Emerald Isle. :( I miss Big Ron.
The last couple of times we played over there was under O'Neil and Lambert, the latter being against Shamrock Rovers.
I remember talking to a Rovers fan whilst waiting for the tram after that game and he reckons the receipts from the match was enough to ensure Shamrock Rovers' running costs for the year.
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I suppose the good thing is that as we are playing them cnuts we will be on TV somewhere
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Another year passes without a visit to the Emerald Isle. :( I miss Big Ron.
The last couple of times we played over there was under O'Neil and Lambert, the latter being against Shamrock Rovers.
I remember talking to a Rovers fan whilst waiting for the tram after that game and he reckons the receipts from the match was enough to ensure Shamrock Rovers' running costs for the year.
That tram took an absolute age back to O'Connell Street. Good day though.
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What is wrong with Walsall?
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Maybe the game is part of any Paul Pogba deal.
Sorry. :)
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What is wrong with Walsall?
You tell us, you moved away 36 years ago! ;)
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Quicker to lost what is right with Walsall, surely?
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And I’m sure we will still play Walsall. Purely from a commercial standpoint this is what builds the name of the club in places where those clubs we aspire to catch operate. We need to be a part of this; known across all parts of the globe.
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It'll be a first visit to Oz for me, hopefully.
2023? (Going by the thread title?)
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What is wrong with Walsall?
You tell us, you moved away 36 years ago! ;)
;D 8)
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Quicker to lost what is right with Walsall, surely?
1. Any road that leads out of it.
2. Except the ones that lead to Wolverhampton or Sandwell, obviously.
3. You're right, it's a very short list.
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Well, at least it'll be on the telly. Sky just love a Man Yew game don't they?
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Wow brilliant for me
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Well, at least it'll be on the telly. Sky just love a Man Yew game don't they?
It'll be on Man U TV. We are helping them get subscribers. Yay. 😕
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Has the Las Vegas Villans thing been shelved? You’d think we’d be trying to exhaust that PR opportunity first.
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Quicker to list what is right with Walsall, surely?
Jorja Smith.
Close the internet.
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Has the Las Vegas Villans thing been shelved? You’d think we’d be trying to exhaust that PR opportunity first.
Yet to be confirmed, but the bid is the front-runner and an announcement should be fairly soon. Even if they do get the nod, it would be a couple of years before they actually play any games so don't expect it too soon.
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This is a long way off, a lot could happen to derail this jaunt down under.
1) Poor handling of animal hides at a Walsall saddlery leads to a new mutating disease turning into a pandemic resulting in worldwide lockdowns.
2) Britain holds a referendum to leave the Commonwealth. The leave vote narrowly wins based on a campaign that it will somehow help us regain The Ashes.
3) Australia turns into a political basket case as Dame Edna Everage is elected Prime Minister on a ticket of "Make Australia Great Again".
All too far fetched ?
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If Australia still have the same jab rules that stopped Djokovic entering the country, we will soon know who has and has not had the jabs at our club.
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Seems they got us mixed up with Crystal Palace https://twitter.com/OptusSport/status/1509351184166916097
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Disappointing
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Great, there's still a chance the Villa could turn up at Longford or in Athlone. I won't hold my breath.
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Centre Parcs in County Longford could host the lads. No nonsense like Stan Collymore setting off a fire extinguisher would be tolerated, mind.
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I hope we play Hoffenheim away - just down the road from me. Selfish, I know!
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Anywhere with lots of tickets and near a train station that we haven't played at recently, please. And none of that playing two games at the same time shite.
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Anywhere with lots of tickets and near a train station that we haven't played at recently, please. And none of that playing two games at the same time shite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordesley_railway_station
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We wouldn't get lots of tickets.
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I suppose the good thing is that as we are playing them cnuts we will be on TV somewhere
i suppose the good thing, if it’s true, will be that I get to see the Villa live for the first time since 2015 FACF. Happy days. Perth for me I reckon. Might take the wee girl and show her what it’s all about! Can’t wait
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I suppose the good thing is that as we are playing them cnuts we will be on TV somewhere
i suppose the good thing, if it’s true, will be that I get to see the Villa live for the first time since 2015 FACF. Happy days. Perth for me I reckon. Might take the wee girl and show her what it’s all about! Can’t wait
Sorry mate, we ain't coming over. It's that top international drawcard Crystal Palace rather than the Villa.
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I live in Perth so should be good to see us here if only a pre-season friendly.
Because of COVID my last game watching Villa was against Swansea at VP in Dean Smith's first game in charge.
Being against Manure you can bet there will be a ridiculous amount of pretend plastic mancs.
A lot of Aussies have only ever of them.
We will definitely be in the minority.
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Anywhere with lots of tickets and near a train station that we haven't played at recently, please. And none of that playing two games at the same time shite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordesley_railway_station
Whoever edited that entry doesn't know that train line very well. The preceding station is Small Heath not Spring Road.
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I live in Perth so should be good to see us here if only a pre-season friendly.
Because of COVID my last game watching Villa was against Swansea at VP in Dean Smith's first game in charge.
Being against Manure you can bet there will be a ridiculous amount of pretend plastic mancs.
A lot of Aussies have only ever of them.
We will definitely be in the minority.
You definitely will, as it's Crystal Palace going Down Under, not Villa.
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Iike a lot of Aussie fans bitterly disappointed, however what would be worse would be a repeat of last seasons pre season dire.
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Seems they got us mixed up with Crystal Palace https://twitter.com/OptusSport/status/1509351184166916097
My god even the glory hunters down under come across as cnuts just like anywhere else. I wonder why they attract such arrogant pricks
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Villa, Palace...just also-rans there to be fodder for the main draw. Fuck'em.
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Crystal Palace apparently pulled out this all this speculation
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Iike a lot of Aussie fans bitterly disappointed, however what would be worse would be a repeat of last seasons pre season dire.
Villa are heading to Oz, to play Leeds Utd and Brisbane Roar on July 17 and 20. Now you can watch the game with proper fans instead of plastic mancs. ;) https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/premier-league-clubs-leeds-and-aston-villa-to-meet-at-suncorp-stadium-in-july/news-story/9856c5e63b0fb81ff334b4fee2579d72
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I live in Perth so should be good to see us here if only a pre-season friendly.
Because of COVID my last game watching Villa was against Swansea at VP in Dean Smith's first game in charge.
Being against Manure you can bet there will be a ridiculous amount of pretend plastic mancs.
A lot of Aussies have only ever of them.
We will definitely be in the minority.
Good news, looks like we're in Brisbane in the summer, so just a nice short drive for you?
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Now announced here in Perth that we are playing Man U here at Optus stadium on Saturday July 23rd.
Leeds playing C Palace on Friday 22nd.
Also playing Leeds on 17th July in Queensland and A League club Brisbane Roar on 20th July.
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
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Looking forward to this. Leeds midweek and Brisbane Roar the following Saturday. Probably go to both. Will see if my daughter wants to go to the Roar match, but up for a few beers before the Leeds match if any Aus-based Villans are keen.
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
??? - you'll have to explain that one.
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We are playing Man United in Perth. 23.07.
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FFS, I am in Auckland for a gig and then Rarotonga, so will miss this.
Even worse is that one of my best friends moved to Townsville 3 months ago. As I said, FFS. >:(
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
??? - you'll have to explain that one.
In a land that refers to swimwear as 'budgie smugglers' it's probably best not to know.
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Forget what I said above. Brisbane
v Villa on the Weds and Villa v Leeds on the sunday
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I assume those in the away ticket scheme will be expected to attend the games in OZ?
Will we be playing our annual away game at the Poundland Stadium upon return from the Australia trip.
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I always thought friendlies were a waste of time, but can't wait for this. First game in the flesh since 2008.
My son just turned 8 and has only ever seen us on TV. Great stuff.
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I assume those in the away ticket scheme will be expected to attend the games in OZ?
Will we be playing our annual away game at the Poundland Stadium upon return from the Australia trip.
There's is no away scheme.
Much like you Bez, friendlies pass me by, but after no holiday in years and years...I fancy this.
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
??? - you'll have to explain that one.
As a latte-sipping, Chardonnay-swilling metropolitan Melbourne elitist, I look down on the rednecks and shitkickers in QLD and WA. Queensland is where bananas come from and WA is basically dirt that gets dug up and sent to China to be turned into useful things (the real sandgroper is a mole cricket, nature’s ugliest insect). Queensland is barely a generation past from being a fascist police state and WA is full of white South Africans who fled the tyranny of not being able to be c**ts any more.
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Details according to Pravda. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/april/28/australia-pre-season-tour/
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I always thought friendlies were a waste of time, but can't wait for this. First game in the flesh since 2008.
Good stuff, better for us to be going 'Down Under' than going down.
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
??? - you'll have to explain that one.
As a latte-sipping, Chardonnay-swilling metropolitan Melbourne elitist, I look down on the rednecks and shitkickers in QLD and WA. Queensland is where bananas come from and WA is basically dirt that gets dug up and sent to China to be turned into useful things (the real sandgroper is a mole cricket, nature’s ugliest insect). Queensland is barely a generation past from being a fascist police state and WA is full of white South Africans who fled the tyranny of not being able to be c**ts any more.
Shouldn’t this be in the Australian version of the shit counties thread.
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I note that no games are being played in Melbourne which is THE sporting state, obviously too cold for them down here.
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Aww, all these Melburnians getting upset, it's like listening to the Bitters.
I'll be flying the H&V flag against Leeds.
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
??? - you'll have to explain that one.
As a latte-sipping, Chardonnay-swilling metropolitan Melbourne elitist, I look down on the rednecks and shitkickers in QLD and WA. Queensland is where bananas come from and WA is basically dirt that gets dug up and sent to China to be turned into useful things (the real sandgroper is a mole cricket, nature’s ugliest insect). Queensland is barely a generation past from being a fascist police state and WA is full of white South Africans who fled the tyranny of not being able to be c**ts any more.
😂 thanks Hillybilly. On next cricket tour I am going to look at locals in WA and QLD entirely differently😂
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Aww, all these Melburnians getting upset, it's like listening to the Bitters.
I'll be flying the H&V flag against Leeds.
There is no way I can make Townsville as I will be in Auckland, but I'm currently looking at the logistics of flying to Brisbane on the Saturday and flying back home Sunday evening or early Monday morning for the game against Leeds.
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Just booked to fly to Brisbane on Saturday and got tickets to the game against Leeds on the Sunday, before flying home early Monday morning.
Things we do for love 8) :D
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I'll save my money and try to get to see the Villa when I'm back home later in the year.
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I expect all The Villa fans in Melbourne to turn up in Brisbane, given the fact that I am flying over from NZ at great expense for one game :)
Call yourselves Villa fans ;D ;D
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I expect all The Villa fans in Melbourne to turn up in Brisbane, given the fact that I am flying over from NZ at great expense for one game :)
Call yourselves Villa fans ;D ;D
can't afford to attend I am afraid need to renew my season ticket again
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I expect all The Villa fans in Melbourne to turn up in Brisbane, given the fact that I am flying over from NZ at great expense for one game :)
Call yourselves Villa fans ;D ;D
They'll probably claim they're doing nights at the Holden factory.
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I always thought friendlies were a waste of time, but can't wait for this. First game in the flesh since 2008.
My son just turned 8 and has only ever seen us on TV. Great stuff.
i think my daughter thinks I’m a bit odd because of my love of Villa. I’ll take her to the Leeds game and hopefully she gets it. Brisbane Roar match is in Townsville. Bit of a drive that one.
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Well I have had the offer of free accomodation in Townsville from a none soccer (thats what they call it over here) mate. Do I really want to go to what is really a huge army base to watch Villa, not sure.
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Well I have had the offer of free accomodation in Townsville from a none soccer (thats what they call it over here) mate. Do I really want to go to what is really a huge army base to watch Villa, not sure.
I have recently had a very close friend move to Townsville from NZ and I would have loved to go to this game, but I already have something on in Auckland, so it's a quick trip to Brisbane, home for a couple of days and then up to Auckland.
Are you going to the Brisbane game Robbo?
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I expect all The Villa fans in Melbourne to turn up in Brisbane, given the fact that I am flying over from NZ at great expense for one game :)
Call yourselves Villa fans ;D ;D
can't afford to attend I am afraid need to renew my season ticket again
That's great mate. My post was aimed at Villa fans in Aussie not elsewhere and was only in jest (who would travel from Europe when you could go to a league game instead). Unless you are in Oz and are buying a season ticket, that would be mightily impressive.
I would love to be able to go and see Villa more regularly and have a season ticket, but it's a bit far to travel from NZ every fortnight.
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Free accomm here in Brisbane if you want it too mate
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My old boss moved to Brisbane a couple of years ago and he is putting me up for the weekend, as well as coming to the game. He is a Zombie Rangers fan but I will forgive him just this once ;D
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I expect all The Villa fans in Melbourne to turn up in Brisbane, given the fact that I am flying over from NZ at great expense for one game :)
Call yourselves Villa fans ;D ;D
can't afford to attend I am afraid need to renew my season ticket again
That's great mate. My post was aimed at Villa fans in Aussie not elsewhere and was only in jest (who would travel from Europe when you could go to a league game instead). Unless you are in Oz and are buying a season ticket, that would be mightily impressive.
I would love to be able to go and see Villa more regularly and have a season ticket, but it's a bit far to travel from NZ every fortnight.
I now have to wait to Tuesday to see I can attend, waiting for the euromillions results
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Good luck mate :) :)
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I expect all The Villa fans in Melbourne to turn up in Brisbane, given the fact that I am flying over from NZ at great expense for one game :)
Call yourselves Villa fans ;D ;D
can't afford to attend I am afraid need to renew my season ticket again
That's great mate. My post was aimed at Villa fans in Aussie not elsewhere and was only in jest (who would travel from Europe when you could go to a league game instead). Unless you are in Oz and are buying a season ticket, that would be mightily impressive.
I would love to be able to go and see Villa more regularly and have a season ticket, but it's a bit far to travel from NZ every fortnight.
I now have to wait to Tuesday to see I can attend, waiting for the euromillions results
and to pay the gas and electric bill
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Am very much considering flying over from Japan for all the games. And a spot of Great White Shark cage diving if that kind of thing happens in Oz??
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Townsville is actually a real place? Thought it was some shitty urban sprawl in The Simpsons or Viz
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My daughter enquired about 3 tickets for the Manure game in Perth and was presented with this:
(https://i.ibb.co/xMWBW4g/3-C81-F1-CB-8008-4214-B150-42-D02-C821-A39-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xMWBW4g)
Approaching £400.
Have any WA resident Aussies made any ticket enquiries yet?
Thanks.
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Am very much considering flying over from Japan for all the games. And a spot of Great White Shark cage diving if that kind of thing happens in Oz??
Port Lincoln is your best bet for that in South Australia.
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Townsville is actually a real place? Thought it was some shitty urban sprawl in The Simpsons or Viz
Yeah, big army town too.
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Typical Villa that the best we can do is the banana-benders and sandgropers, missing out on civilisation entirely.
??? - you'll have to explain that one.
As a latte-sipping, Chardonnay-swilling metropolitan Melbourne elitist, I look down on the rednecks and shitkickers in QLD and WA. Queensland is where bananas come from and WA is basically dirt that gets dug up and sent to China to be turned into useful things (the real sandgroper is a mole cricket, nature’s ugliest insect). Queensland is barely a generation past from being a fascist police state and WA is full of white South Africans who fled the tyranny of not being able to be c**ts any more.
Thank you for this rounded in-depth appraisal. No need to invest in a Lonely Planet tour guide now. :-D
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https://twitter.com/Clem_Gavv/status/1528745669225226240?t=QoMAW2Q6QJJt6mXXqvji-Q&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Clem_Gavv/status/1528745669225226240?t=QoMAW2Q6QJJt6mXXqvji-Q&s=19
Got to admit I was a bit concerned when I saw "Aston-Villa et Rangers pour des matches amicaux" until I read we both happen to be playing Stade Rennais. I'm sure a few will fancy a weekend trip to Brittany in late July.
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is there a direct flight to Rennes from Birmingham or is it best to get to Paris and then get the train?
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There is no way of knowing
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Thinking of driving to Rennes.
Never been, so not sure, but does anyone know much about getting a ferry to Cherbourg / St Malo, from somewhere like Bournemouth or Weymouth?
Or is Chunnel / Calais route still easier?
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Check the prices, its cheaper to do tunnel/calais but it's a fair old drive.
You could do overnight ferry to St Malo and then it's a shirt drive, cherbourg is OK too...
I wonder how easy tickets will be to get hold of...
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Was on holiday in France last time we played there when Ginola was in our team. Just “happened” to be in the area on the day, turned up at the ground in the morning and bought tickets for home supporters stand no problem.
Lots of assorted Brits on holiday were also at the match to watch an English side.
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Hoping this will be on Sat 30th. Will be going to this with a bit of luck
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Got my tickets for Leeds at Suncorp on the Sunday after about an hour of frustration on the ticketek website.
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Birmingham to Nantes would be the easiest,I imagine and then train just over an hour the following day
easyjet have flights under £100 fri-mon on that particular route
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As a latte-sipping, Chardonnay-swilling metropolitan Melbourne elitist, I look down on the rednecks and shitkickers in QLD and WA. Queensland is where bananas come from and WA is basically dirt that gets dug up and sent to China to be turned into useful things (the real sandgroper is a mole cricket, nature’s ugliest insect). Queensland is barely a generation past from being a fascist police state and WA is full of white South Africans who fled the tyranny of not being able to be c**ts any more.
Brilliant. You should write more on global travel destinations ;D
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Has this friendly in Rennes been announced officially yet?
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Officially announced now
6pm KO
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Aston Villa will play Walsall on Saturday, July 9 (1pm) while, after the club's tour of Australia, Steven Gerrard's squad will face off against Rennes on Saturday, July 30 (6pm). PL season will commence on August 6.
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Walsall away set in stone.
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Am quite tempted to look at options to get to Rennes. Nice little rail trip and I haven’t left Paris from Montparnasse before.
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Hoping this will be on Sat 30th. Will be going to this with a bit of luck
All I've seen on it points to it being on Sat. July 30th after Rennes have travelled to Glasgow to play a friendly at Ibrox.
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Flights were £62 this morning,since it went official a few hours ago they are now £231 and that's to Nantes.
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Sounds like a good trip to go on, quick check and Eurotunnel very expensive that weekend and Eurostar quite hefty too.
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Flights were £62 this morning,since it went official a few hours ago they are now £231 and that's to Nantes.
Fucking rip-off. It's a disgrace how our poorer fans are expected to fork that out for a pre-season friendly.
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Flights were £62 this morning,since it went official a few hours ago they are now £231 and that's to Nantes.
Fucking rip-off. It's a disgrace how our poorer fans are expected to fork that out for a pre-season friendly.
They had the choice of a better price if they booked early, the club don't offer that option.
And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
Hmm! Where do you pay inflated prices for a service where you have to get there fairly early, be searched, have to put up with restrictions on what you take on your person, where you get minimal leg room, are potentially surrounded by arseholes who might make you get up every ten minutes or so to let them past, where they serve you expensive, shitty food and warmish piss and the the whole two hour experience often makes you sick and you want to rush away as soon as it comes to a halt?
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
Hmm! Where do you pay inflated prices for a service where you have to get there fairly early, be searched, have to put up with restrictions on what you take on your person, where you get minimal leg room, are potentially surrounded by arseholes who might make you get up every ten minutes or so to let them past, where they serve you expensive, shitty food and warmish piss and the the whole two hour experience often makes you sick and you want to rush away as soon as it comes to a halt?
And everyone thinks you're a wanker if you try to leave early
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
Hmm! Where do you pay inflated prices for a service where you have to get there fairly early, be searched, have to put up with restrictions on what you take on your person, where you get minimal leg room, are potentially surrounded by arseholes who might make you get up every ten minutes or so to let them past, where they serve you expensive, shitty food and warmish piss and the the whole two hour experience often makes you sick and you want to rush away as soon as it comes to a halt?
Haha
When you put it like that
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
FC LuftHansa Rostock would beg to differ.
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
Hmm! Where do you pay inflated prices for a service where you have to get there fairly early, be searched, have to put up with restrictions on what you take on your person, where you get minimal leg room, are potentially surrounded by arseholes who might make you get up every ten minutes or so to let them past, where they serve you expensive, shitty food and warmish piss and the the whole two hour experience often makes you sick and you want to rush away as soon as it comes to a halt?
And everyone thinks you're a wanker if you try to leave early
I stayed and give the players a round of applause after the Burnley game,big mistake,trains were running shit, going to be a wanker in future, didn't get home till 11.30
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
Hmm! Where do you pay inflated prices for a service where you have to get there fairly early, be searched, have to put up with restrictions on what you take on your person, where you get minimal leg room, are potentially surrounded by arseholes who might make you get up every ten minutes or so to let them past, where they serve you expensive, shitty food and warmish piss and the the whole two hour experience often makes you sick and you want to rush away as soon as it comes to a halt?
And everyone thinks you're a wanker if you try to leave early
Anyone trying to leave a flight early is definitely a wanker.
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Poor DB Cooper*, what did he ever do to you?
*awaits correction from UKRedsox
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
FC LuftHansa Rostock would beg to differ.
And RyanAirdrie
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Goughie is doing coaches for Rennes You need to connect with him on fb (Steve Gough). Only villa can find destinations as ours this pre season
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And the guy who does coaches from the Deer's Leap/Magistrates courts
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Thinking out loud, but wouldn't it be good if they switched the annual Walsall game to Villa Park but give them the proceeds. They get more money while more Villa fans get to see Carlos and Kamara as I imagine demand will be quite high given the window so far.
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We usually have one high-profile VP friendly game the weekend before the league starts, don't we? Gerrard's got rid of that as well as Delaney, then, has he? Fucker.
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And a Football Club is not and should not be run like an Airline
FC LuftHansa Rostock would beg to differ.
And RyanAirdrie
Airbus UK are very much run like an airline. Their ground is next to a runway for a start.
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We usually have one high-profile VP friendly game the weekend before the league starts, don't we? Gerrard's got rid of that as well as Delaney, then, has he? Fucker.
In fairness I think the Commonwealth Games being on may have something to do with it.
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I would think that we will be away for our 1st league game of the season due to the commonwealth games
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Announced on 16th June.
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What was the last high-profile pre-season game at VP (not counting the behind closed doors ones).....Parma ?
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Looks like Parma, 2014.
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Were we meant to play Sevilla last year but for Covid? Diego could have fallen in love sooner.
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I remember us playing someone as a last minute replacement but can't remember who we played or who they replaced.
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I remember us playing someone as a last minute replacement but can't remember who we played or who they replaced.
Salernitana wasn’t it?
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Sounds about right 🙂
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Getting to Stade Rennes
New St - Euston or Moor St - Marylebone
Eurostar St Pancras - Paris
SNCF - either TGV, or OuiGo - Rennes
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Didn't say it was cheap - just an alternative to flying.
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It is an alternative but the Eurostar prices are as usual eye watering. The sooner they don’t have a monopoly on that route the better.
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Phoned Premier Travel yesterday £149.00 for the ferry and coach - go on Friday evening return Sunday
You need to sort out your hotel for Saturday night (unless you want to sleep in shop doorway) and get a match ticket
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I want us to get back to games with Inter Milan - great memories over the years. This should be our regular pre-season fixture in my book.
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I'd rather we just played away games at grounds I haven't been to with big away ends. If we are going for glamour friendlies would rather choose someone we haven't played, the biggest of which are Real Madrid and AC Milan, I think. Mind you, they are both Super League twats.
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Away at Roma or Celtic (both of whom we've never played in a competitive fixture) wouldn't be bad either.
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Not for me. Celtic would bring out the worst in some of our twattier fans. Would be endless "In-gur-lund" and "no surrender to the IRA" bollocks.
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Not for me. Celtic would bring out the worst in some of our twattier fans. Would be endless "In-gur-lund" and "no surrender to the IRA" bollocks.
don't forget the throwing the chair competition as well
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I've still got a few Scottish Grounds to do so would be good Killie, Dundee (been United) , Partick. Rangers ground is a large Ewood Park and Celtic do my head (remind me of Liverpool)
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Does anybody have any knowledge of when the Rennes tickets will go on sale?
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Does anybody have any knowledge of when the Rennes tickets will go on sale?
Based on nothing but a guess I'm expecting next week around 30th ie: one month before the game as that sort of timescale was used for Walsall and Leeds tickets.
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Makes sense thanks.
Just planning what date I’ll be telling the wife I’m going.
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Tell her by text, when you've arrived in Rennes.
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Tell her by text, when you've arrived in Rennes.
Haha that's what I'll be doing.
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Leave Paul's wife alone, FFS!
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Tell her by text, when you've arrived in Rennes.
Haha that's what I'll be doing.
Is that you EBJT?
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Ferry booked, hotel booked, wife told!
Strangely ok about it, which is a worry. Am I missing something here?
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Ferry booked, hotel booked, wife told!
Strangely ok about it, which is a worry. Am I missing something here?
I got that when I booked to go to Amsterdam, it left me feeling unnerved.
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Ferry booked, hotel booked, wife told!
Strangely ok about it, which is a worry. Am I missing something here?
Do you have a pool boy and/or a gardener?
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Check her phone to see if she's been messaging LSVilla.
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Ferry booked, hotel booked, wife told!
Strangely ok about it, which is a worry. Am I missing something here?
I got that when I booked to go to Amsterdam, it left me feeling unnerved.
That's the way they roll.
Devious.
Moan incessantly about the things that don't need moaning about, but then totally oblivious about the things they should be concerned about.
"I won't have time to mow the lawn today" - HUGEFUCKING MELTDOWN
"I'm going on a stag do to Amsterdam, we'll be taking lots of drugs and doing lots of shagging" - NOTHING.
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Check her phone to see if she's been messaging LSVilla.
Haha I've got enough problems of my own thanks !!! Plus - I'll be in Rennes.
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What’s John Terry up to at the end of July?
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Isn't that usually about the time he goes to collect the Wimbledon Championship trophy?
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They're not going to allow him this year due to his association with Abramovich.
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Check her phone to see if she's been messaging LSVilla.
Haha I've got enough problems of my own thanks !!! Plus - I'll be in Rennes.
Methinks he doth protest too much..
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Extra tickets on sale for the Walsall game
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The date of the Walsall game could be when the train strike again.
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Ferry booked, hotel booked, wife told!
Strangely ok about it, which is a worry. Am I missing something here?
Do you have a pool boy and/or a gardener?
Danlanza ?
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The date of the Walsall game could be when the train strike again.
Is that right ? Eng v India T20 at Edgbaston
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The date of the Walsall game could be when the train strike again.
Is that right ? Eng v India T20 at Edgbaston
It's not official but that's what I read in the papers.
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The date of the Walsall game could be when the train strike again.
Is that right ? Eng v India T20 at Edgbaston
It's not official but that's what I read in the papers.
Cheers. Will keep an eye.
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Cast your eyes on these numbers - minimum ticket prices and gate receipts (assuming a sell-out) for pre-season friendlies not involving Villa being played in SE Asia - and they're all pretty well sold out!!
Liverpool v ManU Bangkok 51,000 capacity, £115. £5.87m
Spurs v K-League team in Seoul 60,000. £95. £5.64m
Liverpool v Palace. Singapore 55,000. £88, £4.84Mm
Or you can pay £23 for a training session.
Local promoters set these games up - using the veil of some sort of "cup" or "trophy". They hire the venue, pay the teams to fly out, cover all their costs and screw the locals for the privilege of watching what is little more than an exhibition match involving fringe players, upcoming kids and a few first teamers to keep the punters happy
Makes you wonder how much we're being payed for the games in Oz?
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Payed = paid
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Cast your eyes on these numbers - minimum ticket prices and gate receipts (assuming a sell-out) for pre-season friendlies not involving Villa being played in SE Asia - and they're all pretty well sold out!!
Liverpool v ManU Bangkok 51,000 capacity, £115. £5.87m
Spurs v K-League team in Seoul 60,000. £95. £5.64m
Liverpool v Palace. Singapore 55,000. £88, £4.84Mm
Or you can pay £23 for a training session.
Local promoters set these games up - using the veil of some sort of "cup" or "trophy". They hire the venue, pay the teams to fly out, cover all their costs and screw the locals for the privilege of watching what is little more than an exhibition match involving fringe players, upcoming kids and a few first teamers to keep the punters happy
Makes you wonder how much we're being payed for the games in Oz?
Two didgeridoos, Rolf Harris and a signed picture of Skippy.
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A warning about travel to France. We went 2 weeks ago. Our nephew wasn’t allowed on the ferry, his covid pass was valid until November but his last vaccination was 9m4d earlier – limit is 9m. We travelled 8 miles in Portsmouth, ordered a test, picked it up at a shop - £11- he tested in the car, reported result and we sat anxiously waiting until he was given a code for booking. We made the ferry with minutes to spare. Please warn everyone to check the small print re. travel to France.
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Just checked my COVID status - I had my 3rd jab, 8 months before I hopefully travel to France to see the match against Rennes
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Cast your eyes on these numbers - minimum ticket prices and gate receipts (assuming a sell-out) for pre-season friendlies not involving Villa being played in SE Asia - and they're all pretty well sold out!!
Liverpool v ManU Bangkok 51,000 capacity, £115. £5.87m
Spurs v K-League team in Seoul 60,000. £95. £5.64m
Liverpool v Palace. Singapore 55,000. £88, £4.84Mm
Or you can pay £23 for a training session.
Local promoters set these games up - using the veil of some sort of "cup" or "trophy". They hire the venue, pay the teams to fly out, cover all their costs and screw the locals for the privilege of watching what is little more than an exhibition match involving fringe players, upcoming kids and a few first teamers to keep the punters happy
Makes you wonder how much we're being payed for the games in Oz?
And now we now longer need to consider why these clubs hawk themselves around the globe - the exposure and merchandise sold at these events i would imagine go directly to the clubs hence their demand for image rights
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Just to clear up any confusion the 9 month rule on vaccinations only applies to the initial 2 jabs.
If you’ve had the booster then it doesn’t matter if that was more than 9 months ago.
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Just to clear up any confusion the 9 month rule on vaccinations only applies to the initial 2 jabs.
If you’ve had the booster then it doesn’t matter if that was more than 9 months ago.
Sorry I'm more confused now. I had jabs in March and June 2021 and then a booster in December 2021 ie: less than 9 months ago. How could I have had my second jab within the last 9 months ?
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If you've had a booster you're grand.
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If you've had a booster you're grand.
Cheers. Just need a match ticket then. And a smooth passage through Amsterdam (flying from Brum via there).
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If you've had a booster you're grand.
Cheers. Just need a match ticket then. And a smooth passage through Amsterdam (flying from Brum via there).
Went to Amsterdam the other week mate, no covid checking whatsoever.
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If you've had a booster you're grand.
Cheers. Just need a match ticket then. And a smooth passage through Amsterdam (flying from Brum via there).
Went to Amsterdam the other week mate, no covid checking whatsoever.
Thanks. More worried about only having two hours to change !
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1,300 tickets to be made available to Villa fans for the Rennes game
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VillaTV packs out now. Top one is £45 for all pre-season games and 12 months of VillaTV.
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I have never watched VillaTV is it worth £45.00?
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If you watch the U21 games it is, or if you want to watch or re-watch the whole men's games through the season.
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Anyone looking to buy the packs including the Australian tour, keep in mind the second game is 10:45 am on a Wednesday.
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I was, until i saw that the ****** are charging £45 for 5 games which are essentially like watching on some shitty you tube channel. Fuck that. I paid £20 last summer for the 4, and had a refund of £5 when the one was cancelled.
Hope that answers your question Sid.
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I was, until i saw that the ****** are charging £45 for 5 games which are essentially like watching on some shitty you tube channel. Fuck that. I paid £20 last summer for the 4, and had a refund of £5 when the one was cancelled.
Yes, but this year the coverage has to come all the way from Australia, last year's fixtures were more local.
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I will give it a miss, it does seem quite expensive
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I was, until i saw that the ****** are charging £45 for 5 games which are essentially like watching on some shitty you tube channel. Fuck that. I paid £20 last summer for the 4, and had a refund of £5 when the one was cancelled.
Yes, but this year the coverage has to come all the way from Australia, last year's fixtures were more local.
:-)
£9.99 if you want to watch the Walsall one on it's own !
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I was, until i saw that the ****** are charging £45 for 5 games which are essentially like watching on some shitty you tube channel. Fuck that. I paid £20 last summer for the 4, and had a refund of £5 when the one was cancelled.
Yes, but this year the coverage has to come all the way from Australia, last year's fixtures were more local.
Last season I paid £35 for five friendlies, plus Villa TV for a year, so it's £10 more this season.
The £20 package was for just the friendlies, plus 2 months of VillaTV.
I've no idea of the costs involved, but there will definitely be increases in putting on this sort of thing, paying everyone, and also doing it in another country. Every supplier at work is putting their prices up and we are putting our prices up too. Every potential employee we interview wants more money and existing employees want rises to counter inflation. All that results in prices for everything going up I'm afraid.
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Jack Woodward's salary needs to catch-up with inflation.
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It's not too bad for the season but it's a pain in the arse that PL rules dictate that they can't show PL2 games live if they clash with another PL game. I couldn't give a flying one about Bournemouth v West Ham and I doubt many of the people watching it would care about our reserves playing Wolves or whoever, so why is it an issue?
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1,300 tickets to be made available to Villa fans for the Rennes game
Doesn't feel like many. Do you know when they're on sale ?
Edit. Please ignore just seen on the Villa app.
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Is it any wonder that some turn to illegal streams and dodgy firesticks?
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1,300 tickets to be made available to Villa fans for the Rennes game
Doesn't feel like many. Do you know when they're on sale ?
Does seem a bit skimpy seeing as we took 954 to Leipzig for the pre-season friendly there.
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I went to Leipzig and have now booked to go to Rennes, hopefully I will get a ticket, if not I will be sitting with the Rennes supporters!
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I was, until i saw that the ****** are charging £45 for 5 games which are essentially like watching on some shitty you tube channel. Fuck that. I paid £20 last summer for the 4, and had a refund of £5 when the one was cancelled.
Hope that answers your question Sid.
I was interested until I saw the price, which is a bit steep when converted to NZ dollars. Given I am flying to Brisbane for the Leeds game I don't think I will pay another $100 NZ on games which are on at a very inconvenient time for me. Only game that would be at a reasonable time for me is the game in Brisbane!!!
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For those off to France it looks like if you're not fully vaccinated you will need a test and/or recovery certificate. Bit unclear?
I have had two vaccinations and refused my booster dose so basically classed as 'unwanted'
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For those off to France it looks like if you're not fully vaccinated you will need a test and/or recovery certificate. Bit unclear?
I have had two vaccinations and refused my booster dose so basically classed as 'unwanted'
Why would you refuse a booster having had two jabs?
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For those off to France it looks like if you're not fully vaccinated you will need a test and/or recovery certificate. Bit unclear?
I have had two vaccinations and refused my booster dose so basically classed as 'unwanted'
France's gain and all that.
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For those off to France it looks like if you're not fully vaccinated you will need a test and/or recovery certificate. Bit unclear?
I have had two vaccinations and refused my booster dose so basically classed as 'unwanted'
Why would you refuse a booster having had two jabs?
Wilma, innit.
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For those off to France it looks like if you're not fully vaccinated you will need a test and/or recovery certificate. Bit unclear?
I have had two vaccinations and refused my booster dose so basically classed as 'unwanted'
Why would you refuse a booster having had two jabs?
They threatened to put him on a waiting list, and you know how he feels about them.
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I had AZ for the first two and then the only vaccine on offer was Pfizer . I didn't want a cocktail of vaccines and after having the Virus twice I felt my immune system would be better than another booster shot.
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For fucks sake.
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Ignoring the fact that a combination of vaccines give better protection than a single type!!
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I have had two vaccinations and refused my booster dose so basically classed as 'unwanted'
Surely you must be used to that.
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I had AZ for the first two and then the only vaccine on offer was Pfizer . I didn't want a cocktail of vaccines and after having the Virus twice I felt my immune system would be better than another booster shot.
Don't knock a cocktail of drugs till you've tried it.
Not that i have either, but i know that an evening mixture of Ale, Red Wine, Cider and Whisky is a lot of fun.
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We all make our own decisions and if Fred has had two vaccines and Covid twice, I think not wanting a booster is a reasonable decision to take. Not one I'd make, but not as completely daft as some are making out either.
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If he’d had Covid as bad as I have he’d want all the protection he can get.
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Wouldn't actually having Covid help boost your natural immunity to it anyway?
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Wouldn't actually having Covid help boost your natural immunity to it anyway?
Without wishing to reopen this can of worms, here's a bit of reading material from just a couple of weeks back by Imperial College (https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/237315/omicron-infection-poor-booster-covid-19-immunity/)
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Wouldn't actually having Covid help boost your natural immunity to it anyway?
Yes. As would a booster shot. The more protection, the better. Also depends when you have Covid, plenty of people have had it more than once so catching it isn't a magical shield to guarantee future immunity.
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Tickets on sale for Rennes on Monday at 6pm for a massive £5.
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Tickets on sale for Rennes on Monday at 6pm for a massive £5.
That's an outrage! How are people going to complain about that? :-\
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Free Travel/beer?
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Tickets on sale for Rennes on Monday at 6pm for a massive £5.
That's an outrage! How are people going to complain about that? :-\
Only €5 on the Stade Rennais site, clearly profiteering by our club. >:(
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I say tickets but it’s a voucher with tickets picked up from the ground before kick off. Passports needed or some form of ID.
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How COVID-19 damages the brain is becoming clearer. New evidence suggests that the coronavirus’s assault on the brain could be multipronged: it might attack certain brain cells directly, reduce blood flow to brain tissue or trigger production of immune molecules that can harm brain cells.
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Flights from Birmingham to Nantes have been cancelled on the Friday.
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I have just brought my Rennes ticket - total including postage is £5.85
Hopefully it will be a good weekend
Will be packing my ski goggles just in case the French Police use any tear gas
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I have just brought my Rennes ticket - total including postage is £5.85
Hopefully it will be a good weekend
Will be packing my ski goggles just in case the French Police use any tear gas
Got mine too. Debit showing on my CC but no email confirmation yet ?
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Anyone watched the ‘back to work’ video of the players at preseason training today? Who was the fella who kicked the ball into the basketball hoop?
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Sanson seemed to have his mobile phone on him when on the gym bike. Not a great look. Looked sharp in the bit of training footage though.
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Respect to whoever put Biggie Smalls on the sound system.
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Sanson seemed to have his mobile phone on him when on the gym bike. Not a great look. Looked sharp in the bit of training footage though.
Maybe he was listening to your new album Eamonn.
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Tickets on sale for Rennes on Monday at 6pm for a massive £5.
That's an outrage! How are people going to complain about that? :-\
Only €5 on the Stade Rennais site, clearly profiteering by our club. >:(
Ticket for the Leeds game in Brisbane is Aud$79 which is around £45.
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Lsvilla - yes, I received the email confirmation, I did print off the confirmation
Hopefully you will now have received the email
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Lsvilla - yes, I received the email confirmation, I did print off the confirmation
Hopefully you will now have received the email
Cheers. Still nothing although tickets showing in my account history. As it's a voucher by post I'll not panic and wait to see whether it arrives by the week before. Sure it will be fine.
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Anyone watched the ‘back to work’ video of the players at preseason training today? Who was the fella who kicked the ball into the basketball hoop?
Callum Chambers
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Ta. Impressive.
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Sanson seemed to have his mobile phone on him when on the gym bike. Not a great look. Looked sharp in the bit of training footage though.
Maybe he was listening to your new album Eamonn.
I've been championing his cause since he arrived, about time he reciprocated!
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Gerrard sees the pre season tour to Australia as a chance for players to bond.
SG says about the players coming closer and stronger off the pitch as a group.
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No pre-season game at home seems a shame and a missed opportunity to me. It gives new players/young players a chance to experience VP on match day ahead of competitive fixtures starting, so they can hit the ground running. Also reduced "friendly" admission gives supporters who can't afford pl pricings a chance to see their favourites.
It seems the trend is to play these games away from home under the guise of some meaningless mini-tournament probably as a way of determining interest, so a decision can then be made (later on down the line) as to whether competitive pl fixtures should also be played in some far flung destination.
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No pre-season game at home seems a shame and a missed opportunity to me. It gives new players/young players a chance to experience VP on match day ahead of competitive fixtures starting, so they can hit the ground running. Also reduced "friendly" admission gives supporters who can't afford pl pricings a chance to see their favourites.
It seems the trend is to play these games away from home under the guise of some meaningless mini-tournament probably as a way of determining interest, so a decision can then be made (later on down the line) as to whether competitive pl fixtures should also be played in some far flung destination.
Well, the Australians will be paying Villa, Leeds, and Man U a big fee for appearing there. Some of these games can bring in several million. Walsall away is to benefit a local club who doesn't have the revenue streams we do and who support our women's team also.
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At least some of the squad flew to Oz yesterday based on photos of them at the airport. Would be interested in hearing the arrangements e.g. who they flew with, did they all fly together etc.
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No pre-season game at home seems a shame and a missed opportunity to me. It gives new players/young players a chance to experience VP on match day ahead of competitive fixtures starting, so they can hit the ground running. Also reduced "friendly" admission gives supporters who can't afford pl pricings a chance to see their favourites.
It seems the trend is to play these games away from home under the guise of some meaningless mini-tournament probably as a way of determining interest, so a decision can then be made (later on down the line) as to whether competitive pl fixtures should also be played in some far flung destination.
Well, the Australians will be paying Villa, Leeds, and Man U a big fee for appearing there. Some of these games can bring in several million. Walsall away is to benefit a local club who doesn't have the revenue streams we do and who support our women's team also.
Plus I think the Commonwealth Games has affected the scheduling this summer too.
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Yes, they would have clashed and then you have things like policing to consider. Transport links under greater pressure too. Probably just as well not having one this year. It's just unfortunate that Covid cost us the home friendly before last season. Whether we have one next year will depend on the rebuild project too.
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I see Elmo is pictured amongst the group. Seems to be back in an ambassadorial role.
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#Announce Elmo
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Please don't.
Has the squad-list for Oz been announced?
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No pre-season game at home seems a shame and a missed opportunity to me. It gives new players/young players a chance to experience VP on match day ahead of competitive fixtures starting, so they can hit the ground running. Also reduced "friendly" admission gives supporters who can't afford pl pricings a chance to see their favourites.
It seems the trend is to play these games away from home under the guise of some meaningless mini-tournament probably as a way of determining interest, so a decision can then be made (later on down the line) as to whether competitive pl fixtures should also be played in some far flung destination.
Well, the Australians will be paying Villa, Leeds, and Man U a big fee for appearing there. Some of these games can bring in several million. Walsall away is to benefit a local club who doesn't have the revenue streams we do and who support our women's team also.
Plus I think the Commonwealth Games has affected the scheduling this summer too.
We couldn't play a home friendly because of them.
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
They wouldn't be doing it if it was costing them more than they're being paid to play out there.
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
We're owned by two billionaires.
The cost is absolutely a drop in the ocean to them.
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In response to the ^
I forgot about the C/W games. I've only just started seeing adverts for these.
I get the Walsall fixture.
I also get that money is behind the Aussie pre-season games, as indeed it will be going forwards for other friendlies or indeed competitive pl games if it ever comes to that.
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
We're owned by two billionaires.
The cost is absolutely a drop in the ocean to them.
Yeah but what about the carbon-cost?
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
I wonder how much we're getting paid for it. Wonder 2 minus wonder 1 equals a fair old amount.
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Signing players during or after the Australian tour isn't ideal, and if signed after, there's a chance of a settling in period.
Going to Australia for a commercial preseason tour is, in my opinion, not a great idea.
Fatigue and fitness wise in the long run, it may cause more harm than good.
It could be disruptive to things when players have to adjust bring back in UK.
If players are sluggish at the start then there is the excuse of this.
And we're supposedly having a no excuses culture!
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I see Elmo is pictured amongst the group. Seems to be back in an ambassadorial role.
One day, I see him as a first team coach somewhere. Maybe even with us. Depending. Never know.
Has the right temperature to be a involved at top level. Very composed speaker and honourable character who would certainly work well as role model, coach or ambassador in football.
Game needs more characters like Elmo.
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
Definitely cheaper than flying the Australian fans over to fill all those seats we can't sell.
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Signing players during or after the Australian tour isn't ideal, and if signed after, there's a chance of a settling in period.
Going to Australia for a commercial preseason tour is, in my opinion, not a great idea.
In the long run, it may cause more harm than good.
It could be disruptive to things when players have to adjust bring back in UK.
Far off pre-season tours don't seem to do any of the "Big 6" any harm.
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Team haven't just been training since their arrival in Oz, they're also all set for an emergency call-up to IACGMOOH if need be.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1546461457235472387
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We've not got 'Big Six' players and are looking worryingly weak . Take away coutinho as already at club + new Swedish cover leaves us with two signings?
We all know hitting the net was a major issue so I would hope and expect we see some movement in that area in the coming days.
Totally agree with Australian tour comments being a terrible idea. It'll drain us then off to France we could be very tired by the opening fixture and we all know newly promoted sides are tricky and will go out all guns blazing on a sunny day by the coast
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Yes totally agree with you. Bunch of shower running our club have set us on the road to ruinous.
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Please don't.
Has the squad-list for Oz been announced?
The squad that will travel to Australia for preseason training should omit a few players. This enables those players to stay behind and sort out moves away, which makes sense if they are not going to be included in this season's plans. SG and coaching staff must concentrate on the squad's relevant players.
I don't believe it makes sense if we take anyone we don't want to keep and on this tour we must include only those for this season who will be actively involved.
On the exceptions , younger players may participate and experience everything Villa tour has to offer. Here they can be evaluated.
My thoughts on this I feel strikes me as a sensible use of resources and coaching. Anything else is unjustified and doesn't suit for team bonding. No disruptive players and no excuses.
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We've not got 'Big Six' players and are looking worryingly weak . Take away coutinho as already at club + new Swedish cover leaves us with two signings?
We all know hitting the net was a major issue so I would hope and expect we see some movement in that area in the coming days.
Totally agree with Australian tour comments being a terrible idea. It'll drain us then off to France we could be very tired by the opening fixture and we all know newly promoted sides are tricky and will go out all guns blazing on a sunny day by the coast
Just because he's here as cover doesnt not make it a new signing. Dearie me.
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All the way down to Bournemouth is where we play our first league game. It takes another flight because it's so far away.
then first game is an early Everton start.
And to add potential Covid difficulties with all this travel, fatigue could be a problem. But that's looking at it most negatively.
We'll have to have faith that the players' individual duty to take care of themselves and be ready, as well as the accuracy of the fitness and conditioning coaching instruction, to be correct.
SG totally wants that squad fit and firing, consistent and prepared, but the lengthy preseason and then having that first match journey, could prove tour to be a mistake.
I believe the idea is by the end of the tour, all of the players will have integrated into the SG playing style and bonded, and those are the positives that must be taken.
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We've not got 'Big Six' players and are looking worryingly weak . Take away coutinho as already at club + new Swedish cover leaves us with two signings?
We all know hitting the net was a major issue so I would hope and expect we see some movement in that area in the coming days.
Totally agree with Australian tour comments being a terrible idea. It'll drain us then off to France we could be very tired by the opening fixture and we all know newly promoted sides are tricky and will go out all guns blazing on a sunny day by the coast
The one take away from Saturday for me was just how deep our squad actually is when you look at it. Two complete teams for each half, full of ability, with many current full internationals not involved.
And if travelling and playing football is going to be a problem for this squad, lets hope we don't get into Europe.
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All the way down to Bournemouth is where we play our first league game. It takes another flight because it's so far away.
then first game is an early Everton start.
And to add potential Covid difficulties with all this travel, fatigue could be a problem. But that's looking at it most negatively.
We'll have to have faith that the players' individual duty to take care of themselves and be ready, as well as the accuracy of the fitness and conditioning coaching instruction, to be correct.
SG totally wants that squad fit and firing, consistent and prepared, but the lengthy preseason and then having that first match journey, could prove tour to be a mistake.
I believe the idea is by the end of the tour, all of the players will have integrated into the SG playing style and bonded, and those are the positives that must be taken.
Come on now. Bournemouth away is in 4 weeks and we'll probably travel the night before on a luxurious air conditioned coach and stay in a good hotel. Everton at home is a week later. This is just looking for reasons to be worried.
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Team haven't just been training since their arrival in Oz, they're also all set for an emergency call-up to IACGMOOH if need be.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1546461457235472387
Coutinho seems VERY pleased to see them.
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All the way down to Bournemouth is where we play our first league game. It takes another flight because it's so far away.
then first game is an early Everton start.
And to add potential Covid difficulties with all this travel, fatigue could be a problem. But that's looking at it most negatively.
We'll have to have faith that the players' individual duty to take care of themselves and be ready, as well as the accuracy of the fitness and conditioning coaching instruction, to be correct.
SG totally wants that squad fit and firing, consistent and prepared, but the lengthy preseason and then having that first match journey, could prove tour to be a mistake.
I believe the idea is by the end of the tour, all of the players will have integrated into the SG playing style and bonded, and those are the positives that must be taken.
It takes 3 hours to get to Bournemouth from Brum, its hardly timbucktoo
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Not impossible that they fly there. Man U flew to Leicester away, last season.
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The whole idea of pre season is not just fitness, but team building and bonding as well.
It helps the players get to know each other doing other things (koalas), and being away from home together helps to bond them as a team, as they are living, eating, sleeping, training and playing together.
You just know the likes of McGinn and Martinez will be the jokers in the pack, Young and Mings will be the leaders, the young players will become part of the group and the new players will hopefully settle in easier.
It’s not all about the football at this stage of the season.
PS anyone know which of the younger ones travelled? Chuk, Archer, Irog, any others?
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You just know the likes of McGinn and Martinez will be the jokers in the pack, Young and Mings will be the leaders, the young players will become part of the group and the new players will hopefully settle in easier.
Pretty sure I saw an interview with one of the players last season and they said Konsa was the most talkative player in the squad which surprised me.
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Saw the photos of Spurs pre-season training in Thailand? yesterday, looked as though most of the players were collapsed on side of the pitch through exhaustion.
Hopefully our trip to Australia will benefit the group with a lot of hard work and not just taking photos in the usual tourist hot spots,
don't want to read on here that the players don't look fit when the season starts.
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That is Elmo on the right of the photo isn’t it?
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I can imagine it now if we lose our first game. 'We' d have won that if we hadnt spent pre-season arsing around with Koala Bears'.
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Saw the photos of Spurs pre-season training in Thailand? yesterday, looked as though most of the players were collapsed on side of the pitch through exhaustion.
Hopefully our trip to Australia will benefit the group with a lot of hard work and not just taking photos in the usual tourist hot spots,
don't want to read on here that the players don't look fit when the season starts.
Well clearly but equally do we know that your players being on the floor is a good thing? Or that it’s not just a nice bit of PR?
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That's a special kind of whinge.
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I love a good whinge.
Notice there are only 50 tickets left for Rennes, that is fantastic support.
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I can imagine it now if we lose our first game. 'We' d have won that if we hadnt spent pre-season arsing around with Koala Bears'.
You flamin' galahs!
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I can imagine it now if we lose our first game. 'We' d have won that if we hadnt spent pre-season arsing around with Koala Bears'.
Emi Buendia out jumps a kangaroo.
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Anything has to be better than the Goodbye Grealish Riverside BBQ we had last season.
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Anything has to be better than the Goodbye Grealish Riverside BBQ we had last season.
Too right, it seemed t set the tone.
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I can imagine it now if we lose our first game. 'We' d have won that if we hadnt spent pre-season arsing around with Koala Bears'.
I'm not concerned, I seem to recall us doing okay when we signed David Platypus.
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Rennais sold out to season ticket holders. There are some returns but they are still only available to Season Ticket holders.
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Question re Australia match pack: Does anyone know if the £17.99 quoted for the match pack includes fans who are already subscribed to Villa TV? Not very clear in the publicity. Not keen on an early Sunday morning alarm only to find I still have to pay nearly 20 quid.
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I can imagine it now if we lose our first game. 'We' d have won that if we hadnt spent pre-season arsing around with Koala Bears'.
Pissing about with Koala bears whilst the zone 6 proletariat are rapaciously fleeced.
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I can imagine it now if we lose our first game. 'We' d have won that if we hadnt spent pre-season arsing around with Koala Bears'.
Pissing about with Koala bears whilst the zone 6 proletariat are rapaciously fleeced.
It wasn’t in the published pics, but I’m pretty sure Emi and McGinn were feeding those koalas twenty pound notes and laughing hysterically.
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I'm very disappointed that none of the players didn't pop along to Walsall Arboretum after the game on Saturday. A missed opportunity to extend our fan base in that part of the world.
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You would think the normal response would be 'ooh look at his little face' or 'i want one of those' rather than 'fucking hell, look at that bunch of slackers fannying about with the local wildlife when they should be running up a hill'.
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You would think the normal response would be 'ooh look at his little face' or 'i want one of those' rather than 'fucking hell, look at that bunch of slackers fannying about with the local wildlife when they should be running up a hill'.
I'm blaming it on Kate Bush being fashionable again.
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You would think the normal response would be 'ooh look at his little face' or 'i want one of those' rather than 'fucking hell, look at that bunch of slackers fannying about with the local wildlife when they should be running up a hill'.
I'm blaming it on Kate Bush being fashionable again.
In my book Kate Bush was never unfashionable.
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
We're owned by two billionaires.
The cost is absolutely a drop in the ocean to them.
Yeah but what about the carbon-cost?
Admittedly, that part had slipped my mind :)
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Rennes sold out now
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I wonder how much it's costing the club to jet a squad plus staff in business class over to Australia?
I doubt even the zone 6 price increase would cover it.
We're owned by two billionaires.
The cost is absolutely a drop in the ocean to them.
Yeah but what about the carbon-cost?
Admittedly, that part had slipped my mind :)
And the cost to flintys blood pressure
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Saw the photos of Spurs pre-season training in Thailand? yesterday, looked as though most of the players were collapsed on side of the pitch through exhaustion.
Hopefully our trip to Australia will benefit the group with a lot of hard work and not just taking photos in the usual tourist hot spots,
don't want to read on here that the players don't look fit when the season starts.
Bit of a difference training in Thailand in July and training in Australia in July. About 15 degrees minimum.
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Saw the photos of Spurs pre-season training in Thailand? yesterday, looked as though most of the players were collapsed on side of the pitch through exhaustion.
Hopefully our trip to Australia will benefit the group with a lot of hard work and not just taking photos in the usual tourist hot spots,
don't want to read on here that the players don't look fit when the season starts.
Bit of a difference training in Thailand in July and training in Australia in July. About 15 degrees minimum.
Bangkok High 33 Low 26
Brisbane H 21 L 10
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The pics on the official site from today show Davis in the pool with Luis and Buendia, although can’t see him on the pitch photos.
Also Konsa is doing keepy-uppies, so that seems promising for a speedy return.
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The whole idea of pre season is not just fitness, but team building and bonding as well.
It helps the players get to know each other doing other things (koalas), and being away from home together helps to bond them as a team, as they are living, eating, sleeping, training and playing together.
You just know the likes of McGinn and Martinez will be the jokers in the pack, Young and Mings will be the leaders, the young players will become part of the group and the new players will hopefully settle in easier.
It’s not all about the football at this stage of the season.
PS anyone know which of the younger ones travelled? Chuk, Archer, Irog, any others?
Cameron is there.
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The whole idea of pre season is not just fitness, but team building and bonding as well.
It helps the players get to know each other doing other things (koalas), and being away from home together helps to bond them as a team, as they are living, eating, sleeping, training and playing together.
You just know the likes of McGinn and Martinez will be the jokers in the pack, Young and Mings will be the leaders, the young players will become part of the group and the new players will hopefully settle in easier.
It’s not all about the football at this stage of the season.
PS anyone know which of the younger ones travelled? Chuk, Archer, Irog, any others?
Cameron is there.
Chuck not spotted so either somethings going on or he’s been given a rest
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Probably been given an extended break for playing in the Euro's.
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The pics on the official site from today show Davis in the pool with Luis and Buendia, although can’t see him on the pitch photos.
Probably injured himself getting out of the pool.
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Anyone significant not travelled?
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El Ghazi.
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Anyone significant not travelled?
Me. Need to work on my fitness after a poor showing in 28 degree heat at 5-a-side last night.
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Not sure how you play 5 a side at the age of 51 at all bud, let alone in 28 degrees. I tried to pick it up again about a year ago at the age of almost 46 and to say it didn't go well would be an under statement !
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Why are Chuk, Tim and Bidace not in the Aus tour squad?
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Why are Chuk, Tim and Bidace not in the Aus tour squad?
I imagine the first two have extra time off after the Euros
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Why are Chuk, Tim and Bidace not in the Aus tour squad?
Chuk and Tim have only just finished playing in the U19 Euros. Not sure on Bidace but probably going on loan somewhere.
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Why are Chuk, Tim and Bidace not in the Aus tour squad?
Are they definitely not? I thought I saw something suggesting Chuk at least is due to arrive in Australia today (or maybe last night) after having a bit more of a break and doing the pre-season fitness checks on Monday. I'd assume Tim and possibly A Ramsey would be the same. JPB is tougher because he was struggling for fitness at Stoke after a run of niggly injuries so he might be held back because of that.
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They only played their last match a few days ago, they're entitled to some holiday.
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On the Chuk thread but he's been left behind because he's not signed his contract.
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Ta.
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On the Chuk thread but he's been left behind because he's not signed his contract.
Silly boy.
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https://twitter.com/_symmo/status/1547176505947688961?s=21&t=NW3jB7Txb57EkT06Ktn--A
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On the Chuk thread but he's been left behind because he's not signed his contract.
Silly boy.
I guess that’s still to be determined - for him it might be a good decision (if he’s made it yet). But from a Villa perspective we can’t hold up our progress, so sounds like one where we need to move on and we are.
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Looks like the squad were having a laugh messing around with the Aussie rugby team. I'd have thought an ex-Millfield lad like Mings would have been handier with a rugby ball than that though.
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Some words to address and help understand the reasoning and aims behind the pre season tour to reflect and discuss.
Steven Gerrard was asked :
How important is this tour going to be for building relationships and chemistry, on and off the pitch?
SG said
“When you take over a job mid-season it’s always a challenge to get your philosophy across as quick as you can. Without that luxury of the five or six weeks of a pre-season to prepare properly, it’s almost like you’re thrown into the deep end and the games are hitting you pretty fast. To have this opportunity to work in this environment and live together for a couple of weeks, it gives you the opportunity to not only prepare from a football and technical point of view but it gives you the opportunity to bond and become a stronger group as staff and players. That’s what we’re looking for in the next couple of weeks.”
Steven Gerrard also said
"When you’re a manager, you want time, you want pitch time. You want the luxury of being able to do double sessions. You also have four or five games in pre-season to try different things, to tweak certain things. You have a period of time to really put your philosophy and your style across to the players. Then it’s up to them to adapt, take all the information on board and become a stronger group from that information.”
Fascinating.
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
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Glass just about a quarter full.
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
Jet lag, are they serious??? They aren't flying economy class. Business or first class is fine for getting rest, so they shouldn't get jet lagged. I didn't last time I travelled to UK and back so why would they??
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Also consider Carlos, Augustinsson, and Kamara.
They don't have much time to adjust to life in England right now.
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
Jet lag, are they serious??? They aren't flying economy class. Business or first class is fine for getting rest, so they shouldn't get jet lagged. I didn't last time I travelled to UK and back so why would they??
Unless they were caning it around the bar on the A380 they won't.
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The only other issue right now, I have a concerned about players being cooped up with each other for two weeks in an attempt to force bonding with no time for families, friends, or outside enjoyment that they have back in the UK. Just to switch off a bit. Its all a bit intense to make these guys winners and a team.
In some ways, it's like they're stuck with one another when they can't see their loved ones. I understand the clubs idea and Gerrard's had to give reasoning to justify the long haul , and this will either be the best or worst preseason idea. As long as players have some freedom, and I'm not sure how much social fun they can have outside of the group, as well as any training ground brawls or spats from having to day in day out live with each other.
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Also consider Carlos, Augustinsson, and Kamara.
They don't have much time to adjust to life in England right now.
England isn't a backwater like Alabama or New Zealand. I think they will be able to cope:)
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There's always some scandal when footy players go on tour.
Be it some form of rule break to acquire some female fun, alcohol or just some partying.
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Also consider Carlos, Augustinsson, and Kamara.
They don't have much time to adjust to life in England right now.
England isn't a backwater like Alabama or New Zealand. I think they will be able to cope:)
Away from families though who may have moved with them. As well as this there's the culture , climate and settling in outside of football.
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The only other issue right now, I have a concerned about players being cooped up with each other for two weeks in an attempt to force bonding with no time for families, friends, or outside enjoyment that they have back in the UK. Just to switch off a bit. Its all a bit intense to make these guys winners and a team.
In some ways, it's like they're stuck with one another when they can't see their loved ones. I understand the clubs idea and Gerrard's had to give reasoning to justify the long haul , and this will either be the best or worst preseason idea. As long as players have some freedom, and I'm not sure how much social fun they can have outside of the group, as well as any training ground brawls or spats from having to day in day out live with each other.
Footy, chill out. Just let it go. Australia is a great country, they will love it and go back to UK closer together and ready to rip Rennes a new one.
Stop looking for negatives all the time. I take it I wont see you in Brisbane on Sunday mate:).
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
Jet lag, are they serious??? They aren't flying economy class. Business or first class is fine for getting rest, so they shouldn't get jet lagged. I didn't last time I travelled to UK and back so why would they??
You are a one off then, Jet Lag is real, there are lots of scientific studies to back this up.
Having a better seat and more room helps but doesn’t remove, cabin pressure, time zones disruption to eating and sleeping patterns etc.
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
Jet lag, are they serious??? They aren't flying economy class. Business or first class is fine for getting rest, so they shouldn't get jet lagged. I didn't last time I travelled to UK and back so why would they??
You are a one off then, Jet Lag is real, there are lots of scientific studies to back this up.
Having a better seat and more room helps but doesn’t remove, cabin pressure, time zones disruption to eating and sleeping patterns etc.
Not necessarily, any longer haul flights I only fly business or first class. So that would be a comparison to the amount of relaxation the players should get. It's not like they are forced into an economy seat for the flights.
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The only other issue right now, I have a concerned about players being cooped up with each other for two weeks in an attempt to force bonding with no time for families, friends, or outside enjoyment that they have back in the UK. Just to switch off a bit. Its all a bit intense to make these guys winners and a team.
In some ways, it's like they're stuck with one another when they can't see their loved ones. I understand the clubs idea and Gerrard's had to give reasoning to justify the long haul , and this will either be the best or worst preseason idea. As long as players have some freedom, and I'm not sure how much social fun they can have outside of the group, as well as any training ground brawls or spats from having to day in day out live with each other.
Footy, chill out. Just let it go. Australia is a great country, they will love it and go back to UK closer together and ready to rip Rennes a new one.
Stop looking for negatives all the time. I take it I wont see you in Brisbane on Sunday mate:).
No the games not for me on Saturday though I'll be doing a positive retreat from Sunday till end of August! Praise the lord.
I didn't mean to sound negative just realistic.
Enjoy the game!
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
Jet lag, are they serious??? They aren't flying economy class. Business or first class is fine for getting rest, so they shouldn't get jet lagged. I didn't last time I travelled to UK and back so why would they??
You are a one off then, Jet Lag is real, there are lots of scientific studies to back this up.
Having a better seat and more room helps but doesn’t remove, cabin pressure, time zones disruption to eating and sleeping patterns etc.
Not necessarily, any longer haul flights I only fly business or first class. So that would be a comparison to the amount of relaxation the players should get. It's not like they are forced into an economy seat for the flights.
pre Covid I was flying 1 or 2 long haul trips a month and not turning right, so I think I understand Jetlag.
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The only other issue right now, I have a concerned about players being cooped up with each other for two weeks in an attempt to force bonding with no time for families, friends, or outside enjoyment that they have back in the UK. Just to switch off a bit. Its all a bit intense to make these guys winners and a team.
In some ways, it's like they're stuck with one another when they can't see their loved ones. I understand the clubs idea and Gerrard's had to give reasoning to justify the long haul , and this will either be the best or worst preseason idea. As long as players have some freedom, and I'm not sure how much social fun they can have outside of the group, as well as any training ground brawls or spats from having to day in day out live with each other.
Footy, chill out. Just let it go. Australia is a great country, they will love it and go back to UK closer together and ready to rip Rennes a new one.
Stop looking for negatives all the time. I take it I wont see you in Brisbane on Sunday mate:).
No the games not for me on Saturday though I'll be doing a positive retreat from Sunday till end of August! Praise the lord.
I didn't mean to sound negative just realistic.
Enjoy the game!
Footy, I've enjoyed chatting to you tonight, even if we don't agree on everything. Have a great weekend.
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Another key note
Having only been there a few days, it was no surprise that "the majority of us are just getting over a bit of jet lag, but we're all in a good place." Said by Gerrard on Villa TV
So this will cause our concern for player performance upon returning also.
Jet lag, are they serious??? They aren't flying economy class. Business or first class is fine for getting rest, so they shouldn't get jet lagged. I didn't last time I travelled to UK and back so why would they??
You are a one off then, Jet Lag is real, there are lots of scientific studies to back this up.
Having a better seat and more room helps but doesn’t remove, cabin pressure, time zones disruption to eating and sleeping patterns etc.
Not necessarily, any longer haul flights I only fly business or first class. So that would be a comparison to the amount of relaxation the players should get. It's not like they are forced into an economy seat for the flights.
pre Covid I was flying 1 or 2 long haul trips a month and not turning right, so I think I understand Jetlag.
I wish I was as great as you and knew everything.
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Can we leave it there please?
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Yep I will Leeg. Sorry. :'(
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Thank you.
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Footy, no need to retreat, unless it's a proper retreat with no wifi. We need you on here.
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Just found out the Villa matches in Strayla are on free to air telly here. Bonzer, ripper etc.
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Just found out the Villa matches in Strayla are on free to air telly here. Bonzer, ripper etc.
Bloody beauty. It’ll be on Channel 10, and the 10play website, for anyone with a VPN wanting to watch.
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Villa have announced the squad for the tour and Ludwig has joined up with them:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/july/15/Villa-announce-squad-for-Australia-tour/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/july/15/Villa-announce-squad-for-Australia-tour/)
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That’s 35 players, you have to think that some will not be here after the transfer window closes.
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Anyone received their voucher for Rennes yet?
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Yes, received my voucher yesterday, looks as though it is going to be a hell of a journey to get there, due to the problems at the ports!
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I’ve got my’n now, found it in the rubble of leaflets.
I’m going from Newhaven to Dieppe so shouldn’t be affected by the chaos, hopefully!!!!
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Didn't see it mentioned elsewhere but a Villa XI played Fulham behind closed doors yesterday with Liverpool also scheduled the day after the Bournemouth game as Gerrard wants more minutes in the squad's legs.