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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 27, 2022, 07:47:04 PM
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Right out of left field. Very Danny Ings level of secrecy to sign a player who is an experienced CB and can play RB
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1486787357353603072?s=20&t=GYgekOjxdlAAgmrao8EmQA
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Eh? Welcome Callum, useful cover.
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Well nobody saw that coming. He feels like a player who fell off the face of the earth but I guess the versatility here makes sense. Cover for Konsa, cover for Cash.
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Very good signing, glad to see Axel replaced with experience
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wtf..?!
If Mings or Konsa were to go down for a spell at least he is decent cover in addition to what we already have.
Welcome to the club
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/27/villa-announce-calum-chambers-signing/
3.5 year deal. Pure stealth by Johan Lange
(https://external-preview.redd.it/9rt-oqOcDduoQeH6kVzxxsRlY6T7gSaMkYJCZbzkkvc.jpg?auto=webp&s=eeb3715f9c98e8ec47ad33e2c6711c5d112023af)
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Yet more business done in the right manner. Good addition I reckon.
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I love the way we do our business, another one out of the blue. Welcome Calum
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Didn’t see that one coming. Welcome. Gotta be better than Tuanzebe
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Can cover RB and CB. Makes sense.
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I just love this club, another couple before mon night
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I wonder if Martinez had anything to do with it.
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Strange one this, a few years ago he looked like he'd become a very good player but they messed him about a bit and he lost all his form before a wesley level injury a couple of years ago.
If we can get him back to his form 7-8 years ago he's a great signing at what I expect will be a fee of peanuts, if not it's experienced cover for a couple of years whilst our kids develop.
I said a week or so back that I saw the 4th centre back as a tough spot to fill so this is about the sort of gamble I expected.
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Just like Ings I don't think I've seen his name linked to us at all in last three weeks so another good cloak and dagger transfer from us.
Never really rated him much tbh, been at Arsenal years but never looked convincing or established himself there.
That said we do need Axel replacement and he can play RB if needed so makes sense as cover to our main CBs. Probably means Kesler will go back out on loan next few days.
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Played as a DM whilst at Fulham (on loan) and was their player of the year (according to Wiki).
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Could be a free transfer
https://twitter.com/samjdean/status/1486790014495244288?s=21
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Played as a DM whilst at Fulham (on loan) and was their player of the year (according to Wiki).
Yeah I did think that but would be underwhelming if that's our answer at DM as can't believe we've been priced out of all three of our main targets for that position.
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Strange one this, a few years ago he looked like he'd become a very good player but they messed him about a bit and he lost all his form before a wesley level injury a couple of years ago.
If we can get him back to his form 7-8 years ago he's a great signing at what I expect will be a fee of peanuts, if not it's experienced cover for a couple of years whilst our kids develop.
I said a week or so back that I saw the 4th centre back as a tough spot to fill so this is about the sort of gamble I expected.
Arsenal have ruined centre backs for 10 years. I think it’s a decent signing for what could be a free transfer
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Hes looked a decent player in a few of the games he had for Arsenal earlier in the season. Got to be good cover.
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can't be any worse than Tuanzebe
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More than happy with this signing. I'm loving the way we're doing our business.
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We do transact these deals extremely well, though having said that I can't help but comment that he's not a player who has ever really struck me as being particularly good. Hope he does well for us, obviously.
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
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One of my Arsenal mate's simply replied with the mesaage 'he's trashed' when I asked if was still any good. They do seem to hate most of their players though.
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Free or £2 million depending on what you believe.
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
Was at VP for his debut
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Free or £2 million depending on what you believe.
low risk either way.
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
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One of my Arsenal mate's simply replied with the mesaage 'he's trashed' when I asked if was still any good. They do seem to hate most of their players though.
Arsenal ruin defenders. In fact they ruin most of their signings lately
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Cracking signing this - no nonsense, no fuss, very low risk, with huge upside. Lost his way a little at Arsenal but they were a mess for a long time - with good coaching and the right attitude, could easily see him pushing for a 1st team spot. Has pedigree.
Great work Villa!
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Now he truly is rubbish!
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Arsenal ruin defenders. He won't set the world alight but is a useful squad player
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My son 10 mins ago came into the living room, which it itself is unusual, as at 17 he’s either head in the fridge, our local Weatherspoons or his room, saying Dad have you seen this? Calum Chambers! Very happy and well done Villa 😆😆
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Arsenal fans think it’s part of a deal for Luiz 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
Was at VP for his debut
And me. Didn’t he score against Forest who we just signed him from. November 96.
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We needed a player for those positions and for someone who isn’t guaranteed a starting place he’s a very good signing. We don’t fuck about any more by the looks of it !
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I wonder if he can a actually control and pass the ball and not look like he’s been struck by lightning when pressed like the other CB’s we have
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Can't think of too many downsides to this. Seems a sensible move.
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
Please don't remind me. Tiler was truly dreadful.
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Holding is shite!
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Free or £2 million depending on what you believe.
I'm guessing somewhere in between. https://twitter.com/jamesbenge/status/1486790239792291844
The Arsenal fans don't seem that pleased and would have kept him till his contract ran out. Basically said he's solid and has played well the last 2 seasons, just not one of Arteta's favourites.
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Agent Lange working under the radar again!
CB/RB which adds to the depth across the back 4.
Solid pro, ACL problem a year ago.
If we can get him up to the level he was at before, then we've done some good business, especially given the minimal amount we've shelled out.
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I think it's OK.
I am pleased with how the club is being run though. Seems a smart signing on a free.
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I'm sure eventually the rest of the media will report that we are linked with him, and may sign after a medical at the weekend. That there are other PL clubs also interested.
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Free or £2 million depending on what you believe.
I'm guessing somewhere in between. https://twitter.com/jamesbenge/status/1486790239792291844
The Arsenal fans don't seem that pleased and would have kept him till his contract ran out. Basically said he's solid and has played well the last 2 seasons, just not one of Arteta's favourites.
If it’s including salary saved … well that’s £1.5m there (was on £60k/wk), so guessing it’s basically a free transfer with us having to pay them £500k if he turns out to be a world beater.
Not bowled over by the signing, but we needed a defender and he is one, so happy days. Even more so if he turns out to be good.
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Love it when we do these kind of deals. I like to think the player we're signing doesnt even know til he turns up at the photoshoot.
Think Lange just bundles them into the back of a blacked out merc and the next thing the player knows hes holding our shirt on twitter.
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Really useful player and a shrewd move from Gerrrard. This lad will not let us down.
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Gerrard will improve these sort of players - as they'll have to work bloody hard, and hard work is the key to improving
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A tam in our position is never going to get a better experienced fourth-choice to play anywhere.
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
Was at VP for his debut
And me. Didn’t he score against Forest who we just signed him from. November 96.
Yeah - then he got injured very soon after I believe
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Badly needed CB cover and happy with the deal, welcome Calum
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Welcome young man.
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Free or £2 million depending on what you believe.
I'm guessing somewhere in between. https://twitter.com/jamesbenge/status/1486790239792291844
The Arsenal fans don't seem that pleased and would have kept him till his contract ran out. Basically said he's solid and has played well the last 2 seasons, just not one of Arteta's favourites.
'Including add ons and salary saved'. I don't remember even Doug spinning a transfer like that, only including their wages over the term of their contract along with the transfer fee.
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If it’s including salary saved … well that’s £1.5m there (was on £60k/wk), so guessing it’s basically a free transfer with us having to pay them £500k if he turns out to be a world beater.
Not bowled over by the signing, but we needed a defender and he is one, so happy days. Even more so if he turns out to be good.
That's my take and may be a further indication Young is on his way to Watford or Norwich which would help it pay for itself this season.
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Strange one this, a few years ago he looked like he'd become a very good player but they messed him about a bit and he lost all his form before a wesley level injury a couple of years ago.
If we can get him back to his form 7-8 years ago he's a great signing at what I expect will be a fee of peanuts, if not it's experienced cover for a couple of years whilst our kids develop.
I said a week or so back that I saw the 4th centre back as a tough spot to fill so this is about the sort of gamble I expected.
Arsenal have ruined centre backs for 10 years. I think it’s a decent signing for what could be a free transfer
Just to be clear it's strange because he had a horrible injury and has only played a handful of games since. If he's not fully fit then it's a gamble but if he is fit then it seems amazing that Arsenal would let him go for nothing given how poor they are in central defence. Imagine choosing to let another centre back leave when you have Rob Holding playing actual matches for you.
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One of my Arsenal mate's simply replied with the mesaage 'he's trashed' when I asked if was still any good. They do seem to hate most of their players though.
If you watch 10 mins of Arsenal TV it is soon obvious that most of them are utterly clueless-he’ll be crap because he isn’t Adams or Sol - perfectly good for us at this point
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Glad you're not in charge of our transfer strategy, Holding is utter Blues.
Welcome Calum.
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One of my Arsenal mate's simply replied with the mesaage 'he's trashed' when I asked if was still any good. They do seem to hate most of their players though.
If you watch 10 mins of Arsenal TV it is soon obvious that most of them are utterly clueless-he’ll be crap because he isn’t Adams or Sol - perfectly good for us at this point
I know an arsenal fan who thinks Lacazette (£47m, 192 appearances, 70 goals, 32 assists) is their worst ever signingbecause he's not fit to wear the same shirt as Henry or Bergkamp.
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One of my Arsenal mate's simply replied with the mesaage 'he's trashed' when I asked if was still any good. They do seem to hate most of their players though.
If you watch 10 mins of Arsenal TV it is soon obvious that most of them are utterly clueless-he’ll be crap because he isn’t Adams or Sol - perfectly good for us at this point
I know an arsenal fan who thinks Lacazette (£47m, 192 appearances, 70 goals, 32 assists) is their worst ever signingbecause he's not fit to wear the same shirt as Henry or Bergkamp.
They are special.
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Don't get this one at all. Unlike some of other signings who will push people for their places, Konsa and Cash have nothing to worry about. Chambers will also be blocking the pathway for some of the younger players. Has the feel of a signing because we couldn't get who we really wanted in his position.
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Decent enough signing as a back up. Is he right footed?
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Who is he blocking? As it stood we only had a left footed CB covering for Konsa. And HKK may go back out on loan but even if he stayed he’s still in with a good shot at being the back up to Cash.
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A tam in our position is never going to get a better experienced fourth-choice to play anywhere.
Not sure I agree with that Dave. Last season's players player of the year Matt Target is now back up after a largely poor 6 months. Bailey is now having to fight Coutinho and Bunedia for a place having come in for £30m plus in the summer and we're pushing for a Juve starter to force Dougie Luiz to fight for his place. We've shown in this transfer window alone that it can be done in terms of significant upgrades.
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Who is he blocking? As it stood we only had a left footed CB covering for Konsa. And HKK may go back out on loan but even if he stayed he’s still in with a good shot at being the back up to Cash.
Bogarde is a right footed centre back, no? Kesler at right back. We're not in Europe or any major cup competitions this season, so why not throw them in to see how good they are if we need to. Chambers at 27 seems a strange signing to me. The other business we've done I get; ready to go, established first teamers who upgrade what we've got and increase the competition.
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Its amazing how some of these transfers you do not hear a whisper from anywhere
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Think it's a good signing. He's a decent player. He can also provide cover in the middle and for Cash. He's an upgrade on Tuanzebe and on form should be pushing the first choice pair. Arsenal have been a mess for a few years, and like a few players he's probably not hit the heights expected, certainly from 2-3 years ago when he was expected to be an England regular. I'm actually amazed he was at Arsenal that long. Time flies.
It's very surprising. Out of the blue, and I think we've done well there. Our last Arsenal signing wasn't too shabby either.
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A tam in our position is never going to get a better experienced fourth-choice to play anywhere.
Not sure I agree with that Dave. Last season's players player of the year Matt Target is now back up after a largely poor 6 months. Bailey is now having to fight Coutinho and Bunedia for a place having come in for £30m plus in the summer and we're pushing for a Juve starter to force Dougie Luiz to fight for his place. We've shown in this transfer window alone that it can be done in terms of significant upgrades.
None of those players were signed as cover.
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From an Arsenal supporting friend:
He's a good lad, a great utility player. Not great in any position and probably won't start for us but will be good for squad depth. For even the £2m reported he will easily outplay that price tag.
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Glad you're not in charge of our transfer strategy, Holding is utter Blues.
Welcome Calum.
Have you seen this guy, Chambers play? He's absolute shite and then some. Welcome Callum!
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Think it's a good signing. He's a decent player. He can also provide cover in the middle and for Cash. He's an upgrade on Tuanzebe and on form should be pushing the first choice pair. Arsenal have been a mess for a few years, and like a few players he's probably not hit the heights expected, certainly from 2-3 years ago when he was expected to be an England regular. I'm actually amazed he was at Arsenal that long. Time flies.
It's very surprising. Out of the blue, and I think we've done well there. Our last Arsenal signing wasn't too shabby either.
How funny would it be if it turns out that he’s actually really good and they’ve sold us another top quality player, this time for some loose change we found down the back of the sofa.
Have to get Lange to go down there again and say we’ll take Smith-Rowe off their hands if they give us £20m.
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I can't believe he's still only 27! He seems to have been around a very long time. Not sure what people expect from a fourth choice in his position at this stage of the club's development. Hopefully he'll turn out to be an astute signing.
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A tam in our position is never going to get a better experienced fourth-choice to play anywhere.
Not sure I agree with that Dave. Last season's players player of the year Matt Target is now back up after a largely poor 6 months. Bailey is now having to fight Coutinho and Bunedia for a place having come in for £30m plus in the summer and we're pushing for a Juve starter to force Dougie Luiz to fight for his place. We've shown in this transfer window alone that it can be done in terms of significant upgrades.
None of those players were signed as cover.
Depends how you look it. Bailey has now become cover because we've got Coutinho in. Targett is now cover because he has a better player (for my money) in front of him. Gerrard's mantra seems to be about raising standards we're everyone has to fight for their place because there is quality in direct competition. If Bentacour comes in, that'll be another example of that.
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I didn't see this coming great business welcome to Aston Villa Calum.
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A tam in our position is never going to get a better experienced fourth-choice to play anywhere.
Not sure I agree with that Dave. Last season's players player of the year Matt Target is now back up after a largely poor 6 months. Bailey is now having to fight Coutinho and Bunedia for a place having come in for £30m plus in the summer and we're pushing for a Juve starter to force Dougie Luiz to fight for his place. We've shown in this transfer window alone that it can be done in terms of significant upgrades.
None of those players were signed as cover.
Depends how you look it. Bailey has now become cover because we've got Coutinho in. Targett is now cover because he has a better player (for my money) in front of him. Gerrard's mantra seems to be about raising standards we're everyone has to fight for their place because there is quality in direct competition. If Bentacour comes in, that'll be another example of that.
Exactly - they're cover now, not when they were signed. Chambers looks to be an upgrade on Tuanzebe and will do for a year or so until we see how the Academy defenders are doibng.
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Seems like good cover to me. Sensible enough signing, and low risk. He might end up doing very well for us, but if he doesn't, it won't be the end of the world.
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Good signing
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Glad you're not in charge of our transfer strategy, Holding is utter Blues.
Welcome Calum.
Have you seen this guy, Chambers play? He's absolute shite and then some. Welcome Callum!
I have and he's fine as cover, he's cost a pittance in todays standards, and he is way better than Rob fucking Holding.
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Some people are just never happy. What do people expect for a fourth choice centre back who can cover a couple of other positions? Two million quid for an England centre back who's happy to come to us when he knows he's going to have to fight really hard to displace Konza or Mings. This is another signing where players potentially incoming will look at us and see that we have signed players from Arsenal, Everton and Barcelona this window and seem to mean business. This is a sensible signing.
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Funnily enough he's a member at my golf club down here. I've never spoken to him but if I see him again I'll have to get some ITK.
My Arsenal fan mate reckons he was supposedly decent on loan at Fulham playing in midfield, so I reckon his versatility is a key to us wanting him.
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Welcome, Calum, to the best football club in the World.
Be good.
UTV!
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Some people are just never happy. What do people expect for a fourth choice centre back who can cover a couple of other positions? Two million quid for an England centre back who's happy to come to us when he knows he's going to have to fight really hard to displace Konza or Mings. This is another signing where players potentially incoming will look at us and see that we have signed players from Arsenal, Everton and Barcelona this window and seem to mean business. This is a sensible signing.
YOu make it sound like there's a chorus of dissatisfaction.
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A tam in our position is never going to get a better experienced fourth-choice to play anywhere.
Not sure I agree with that Dave. Last season's players player of the year Matt Target is now back up after a largely poor 6 months. Bailey is now having to fight Coutinho and Bunedia for a place having come in for £30m plus in the summer and we're pushing for a Juve starter to force Dougie Luiz to fight for his place. We've shown in this transfer window alone that it can be done in terms of significant upgrades.
None of those players were signed as cover.
Depends how you look it. Bailey has now become cover because we've got Coutinho in. Targett is now cover because he has a better player (for my money) in front of him. Gerrard's mantra seems to be about raising standards we're everyone has to fight for their place because there is quality in direct competition. If Bentacour comes in, that'll be another example of that.
Exactly - they're cover now, not when they were signed. Chambers looks to be an upgrade on Tuanzebe and will do for a year or so until we see how the Academy defenders are doibng.
But that's my point; Chambers is instantly cover. He won't be pushing Cash and Konsa. It's out of sync with the other signings we've made under Gerrard this window. And he's a permanent signing - not a loan like Axel. If the academy lads are good enough then Chambers is going to be hanging around on the wage bill for 3 years. If the academy lads aren't good enough then we've filled a slot that could have gone to a better player that would provide serious competition. It's highly unlikely that we'll be getting into Europe this season so I think it would have made more sense to have made another loan signing to be back up and wait until the summer to get someone better or as good as what we have.
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To be brutally honest, I cant say I’ve ever heard of him, or if I have then it hasn’t stuck with me.
But whatever, ……...welcome
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I didn't pay much attention to the PL in the 2018/19 season, but it seems Calum was the fans' player of the year at Fulham, and played mostly in midfield. Looked decent when he broke through at Southampton. They have some academy there, almost as good as ours.
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To be brutally honest, I cant say I’ve ever heard of him, or if I have then it hasn’t stuck with me.
But whatever, ……...welcome
Same here.
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Hard to get too excited about signing a 3rd / 4th choice defender, but impressively efficient from the club nonetheless. Know very little about him, hopefully he can perform when needed.
Get the defensive midfielder in and this will have been an incredible window.
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To be brutally honest, I cant say I’ve ever heard of him, or if I have then it hasn’t stuck with me.
But whatever, ……...welcome
Southampton acadamey graduate, moved to Arsenal for big darts around the time we had Lamberk IIRC.
Was obv highly rated at some stage, but haven't heard him spoken about much in recent years.
Good option for a few positions, particularly if injuries or suspensions start to bite.
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To be brutally honest, I cant say I’ve ever heard of him, or if I have then it hasn’t stuck with me.
But whatever, ……...welcome
Same here.
...and here. Welcome anyway.
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Seem to remember he was very highly thought of as a youngster, we can't lose with this one, decent cover with little outlay.
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I remember him scoring when we threw away the game at the Emirates a couple of seasons ago (assisted by Jon Moss), but he rarely featured for them recently.
I think he left Southampton too soon and he never fully pushed on at Arsenal.
It seems one to give us some back up more than anything.
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Seem to remember he was very highly thought of as a youngster, we can't lose with this one, decent cover with little outlay.
2-3 England caps as a teenager so yes, very highly regarded.
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Not every signing has to be a £30m superstar. This provides us with good back up in a number of positions. I’d rather see what happens with a player we now own than carry on developing players like Tuanzebe who wasn’t very good anyway. He’s probably not going to play much more for us than he did Arsenal in all honesty though.
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Seem to remember he was very highly thought of as a youngster, we can't lose with this one, decent cover with little outlay.
2-3 England caps as a teenager so yes, very highly regarded.
So was Micah Richard’s…😳
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Glad you're not in charge of our transfer strategy, Holding is utter Blues.
Welcome Calum.
Have you seen this guy, Chambers play? He's absolute shite and then some. Welcome Callum!
absolute shite is as ridiculous a comment as it gets :-)
Feast or famine
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Just the kind of signing we needed to put pressure on our CBs for their position...or something.
If it's reserve Arsenal CBs we were after, I'd have much preferred Rob Holding.
Glad you're not in charge of our transfer strategy, Holding is utter Blues.
Welcome Calum.
Have you seen this guy, Chambers play? He's absolute shite and then some. Welcome Callum!
absolute shite is as ridiculous a comment as it gets :-)
Feast or famine
Check out his player ratings after a match for more ;-)
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The habit of writing signings off before they have even played a game in the shirt, is truly one of the most nauseating reads on fans forums.
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
Was at VP for his debut
And me. Didn’t he score against Forest who we just signed him from. November 96.
Yeah - then he got injured very soon after I believe
I dont't know how you lot remember this stuff. I'd totally forgotten all about him.
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Experienced, versatile player who will offer competition and squad depth, on a free transfer. Smart signing.
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I look at the likes of Wet Spam having Dawson and Leicester with Evans and think there’s a lot to be said for an experienced centre half now and again. If and when he gets a game I’m not expecting him to run box-to-box that’s what we’ve got Jacob for - I want him to know his role inside out and support his fellow centre half and his right back before giving the ball to those that can play. And at 27 when they’re 30+ he’s got loads to give us. Especially with the odd appearance as a DM are a short term option.
And if he wants to wander up for corners to score occasionally even better. I don’t see much downside with this to be honest.
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I look at the likes of Wet Spam having Dawson and Leicester with Evans and think there’s a lot to be said for an experienced centre half now and again. If and when he gets a game I’m not expecting him to run box-to-box that’s what we’ve got Jacob for - I want him to know his role inside out and support his fellow centre half and his right back before giving the ball to those that can play. And at 27 when they’re 30+ he’s got loads to give us. Especially with the odd appearance as a DM are a short term option.
And if he wants to wander up for corners to score occasionally even better. I don’t see much downside with this to be honest.
You read my mind with Dawson and Evans ditto Wes Morgan when Leicester won the Title. I see him as very good defensive cover for not a lot of risk. It's shrewd business by Villa. Gerrard is squad building for next season and reliable back up is invaluable if you have a run of injuries which we usually do. It's also refreshing how they go about their business. No hype no fuss they just get it done. I'm expecting a few more to come and go before they're done.
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A very smart move. Free transfer and cover for both the cb's and Matty. Two for the price of none. Good signing.
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He can play as a right back too, so covers the defence very well,
Low fee, good age and experienced too - seems a no brainer.
If he gets in the team, plays well and doesn’t sustain his place then his value will only increase, so may turn a profit should we sell him in a year or two too.
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Welcome - hopefully you will enjoy sitting on the bench and not playing very often (you will probably only play in the League or FA Cup games, although, that will only be for 2 or 3 games per season)
Best of luck, hope that you love playing for the best club in the world
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Good player. Good buy
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Free transfer, experienced and in his prime, what’s there not to like
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Well...…..I suppose he's free.
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Was a bit underwhelmed at first but does make a lot of sense.
Gerrard wanted 4 centre backs and I'm sure we all back Konsa to be No 1 for a few years to come, so realistically we were never looking for a wow signing in this position. So he adds depth to the squad, decent cover and is versatile in an emergency.
In a best case scenerio when he gets his chance he rediscovers his form from his early years and provides genuine competition as well cover.
I want Kessler to be our back up right back though, I don't see how Chambers could cover the progressive fullback role we would need for our style of play.
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reminds me of a favorite player of mine...an Earl Barrett type of signing, can play across the back 4 and even in midfield if needed :)
Welcome Calum
UTV
The Doc
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I think it's a brilliant bit of business. Decent player, good age, covers a few positions we are short in. It also shows we have some real smart cookies working behind the scenes for us - got the business done with the minimum of fuss, when you would imagine that if it became public then there would have been a lot more interest. I would imagine Newcastle for one would have been very interested had they been aware he was available.
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Way I see it, up until this season he was playing 25-30 games a season for Arsenal. Maybe not a first team regular, but good enough to be a squad player in a top 6-8 team. Presumably the scouting team have done their homework - maybe they've seen something that Arsenal haven't picked up on. Wouldn't be the first time.
It also shows we have some real smart cookies working behind the scenes for us - got the business done with the minimum of fuss, when you would imagine that if it became public then there would have been a lot more interest. I would imagine Newcastle for one would have been very interested had they been aware he was available.
Agree completely. He's not a spectacular signing, but on a free, or near enough, you could imagine a fair few clubs would've been after him if they knew he might be available. Newcastle being the really obvious one.
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I would imagine Newcastle for one would have been very interested had they been aware he was available.
Possibly not as a full back because they had already signed Trippier.
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I think it's a brilliant bit of business. Decent player, good age, covers a few positions we are short in. It also shows we have some real smart cookies working behind the scenes for us - got the business done with the minimum of fuss, when you would imagine that if it became public then there would have been a lot more interest. I would imagine Newcastle for one would have been very interested had they been aware he was available.
Agree with some of this but his agent would have made Newcastle well aware of his availability if he had any interest in going there.
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I get the cover arguments, the good value etc.. I just don't think he's very good imho.
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He is a very energetic and committed player, works hard and is capable of playing in a few positions.
I really can not see the downside.
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A Carl Tiler for the YouTube generation.
I see your Carl Tiler and I raise you a Colin Calderwood.
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There was a game when he came on for Arsenal last season where he gifted the opposition 2 goals - a masterclass in buffoonery although I think he was playing fullback - It was hard to tell. Mr Gerrard's call I guess - cover at a decent price, but I don't think any of our current players 1st team or reserves will be losing much sleep on losing their place in the pecking order.
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Aston Rangers FC.
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I get the cover arguments, the good value etc.. I just don't think he's very good imho.
If he was very good he wouldn't be coming in as a back up player. He's probably on a level with Hause, who most of us think is a valuable member of the squad.
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As we are going retro on our centre half signings, maybe he will be the new Steve Simms
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I get the cover arguments, the good value etc.. I just don't think he's very good imho.
If he was very good he wouldn't be coming in as a back up player. He's probably on a level with Hause, who most of us think is a valuable member of the squad.
Personally I think Hause is far superior but that's just my view. We shall see.
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I think it's a brilliant bit of business. Decent player, good age, covers a few positions we are short in. It also shows we have some real smart cookies working behind the scenes for us - got the business done with the minimum of fuss, when you would imagine that if it became public then there would have been a lot more interest. I would imagine Newcastle for one would have been very interested had they been aware he was available.
Agree with some of this but his agent would have made Newcastle well aware of his availability if he had any interest in going there.
Not sure, it sounds like we're pretty much 'on it' as far as that's concerned:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/calum-chambers-aston-villa-transfer-26071230
Included among them was Ings’ own family, with the striker banned from informing them until the deal was confirmed.
“I’ve been at a lot of places in my career but this was definitely the best-kept secret,” the Englishman told Villa TV after his move.
“It has been a crazy couple of days. I wasn’t able to tell my family until it was announced. Now I am just happy to be here and get started.
“It’s hard to explain (what moments like this) are like. I am very close with my dad. Not being able to tell him during the process was probably the toughest thing ever.
“I told him on the way up on Wednesday night and he is excited. He is looking forward to seeing me hopefully grow at this club.
“My family have always followed me. This is a new part of the country I will be living in but I am looking forward to it.”
That's relating to Danny Ings, but it feels like that might just be the way we do business now, and could imagine it might also apply to agents as well.
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To be brutally honest, I cant say I’ve ever heard of him, or if I have then it hasn’t stuck with me.
But whatever, ……...welcome
Same here.
this too. But I do have a Fulham supporting mate who has told me this: Hard to tell he was on loan and thrown into a shit defence that was relegated and conceded over Sixty goals… good squad player to have
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To be brutally honest, I cant say I’ve ever heard of him, or if I have then it hasn’t stuck with me.
But whatever, ……...welcome
Same here.
this too. But I do have a Fulham supporting mate who has told me this: Hard to tell he was on loan and thrown into a shit defence that was relegated and conceded over Sixty goals… good squad player to have
Yeah me neither. When I saw the name, I thought "ooh another promising youngster".
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TBH, I had to look him up! Then this morning when I woke up I couldn't remember his surname but that says more about me than it does him. I wish him all the best here.
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Colin Calderwood type of signing. Should give decent cover in a couple of positions.
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I remember when Arsenal signed him, it was quite a lot of money for a 19-year-old defender (can't remember how much), and it felt like he was just the latest one off the production line at Southampton following the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade Chamberlain as the next bright young thing.
He's clearly never established himself in Arsenal's backline, so I don't expect he's come here expecting to replace Ty or Ezri, but he's a useful back and with Axel gone we're now back up to 4 senior central defenders, which is how it should be.
For me it's a good, if not spectacular signing. If everyone stays fit, in reasonable form and avoids suspension, I'll be surprised if we see much of him in claret and blue this season.
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I had completely forget that he existed, which is some going considering he scored against us a couple of years ago.
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It's great we have signed him on a free and he can cover a couple of positions.
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Good signing is this - competition and cover situation definitely beginning to move in the right direction.
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Hard to get too excited about signing a 3rd / 4th choice defender, but impressively efficient from the club nonetheless. Know very little about him, hopefully he can perform when needed.
Get the defensive midfielder in and this will have been an incredible window.
Maybe he is the defensive midfielder, isn't that where he played for Fulham?
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Hard to get too excited about signing a 3rd / 4th choice defender, but impressively efficient from the club nonetheless. Know very little about him, hopefully he can perform when needed.
Get the defensive midfielder in and this will have been an incredible window.
Maybe he is the defensive midfielder, isn't that where he played for Fulham?
According to the DT he can play CB, RB or DM
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Maybe he is the defensive midfielder, isn't that where he played for Fulham?
* Nervous laughter *
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Colin Calderwood type of signing. Should give decent cover in a couple of positions.
A couple of mentions of Calderwood, but he was 34 when he signed for Villa. Tiler otoh was 25.
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Over 150 Premier appearances plus European, only 27 yrs old and versatile…good addition to the squad I reckon. Welcome to Villa!
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Over 150 Premier appearances plus European, only 27 yrs old and versatile…good addition to the squad I reckon. Welcome to Villa!
And played for England at every age level. Obviously lost his way a bit, but a fesh start is probably what he needs.
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Welcome addition to the squad!
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Colin Calderwood type of signing. Should give decent cover in a couple of positions.
A couple of mentions of Calderwood, but he was 34 when he signed for Villa. Tiler otoh was 25.
More to do with him being a versatile back up rather than his age. Recall John Gregory being very complimentary about Calderwood during his time at the club.
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He looked like man that enjoyed a break in Majorca, did Colin, in the days before tanning salons.
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The only thing of significance that I remember is when he scored right in front of me at Emirates to equalise for Arsenal and we went on to lose the game 3-2 against 10 men. Another Carlos Cuellar.
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Over 150 Premier appearances plus European, only 27 yrs old and versatile…good addition to the squad I reckon. Welcome to Villa!
And played for England at every age level. Obviously lost his way a bit, but a fesh start is probably what he needs.
Arsenal have not improved many defenders over the past decade
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We'd not improved many players at all in that time prior to the last few years, irrespective of position. We're a different animal now.
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The only thing of significance that I remember is when he scored right in front of me at Emirates to equalise for Arsenal and we went on to lose the game 3-2 against 10 men. Another Carlos Cuellar.
Why is he another Carlos Cuellar?
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The only thing of significance that I remember is when he scored right in front of me at Emirates to equalise for Arsenal and we went on to lose the game 3-2 against 10 men. Another Carlos Cuellar.
Why is he another Carlos Cuellar?
His initials are also CC. ;)
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He adds genuine competition as 4th choice centre half. Remember the days of that bearded Spanish fella that was truly awful a few years back? We are light years from that now.
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He adds genuine competition as 4th choice centre half. Remember the days of that bearded Spanish fella that was truly awful a few years back? We are light years from that now.
Crespo?
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Was that his name.. I just remember him being less than whelming at Southampton one night and wondering which scout had thought, yeah, let's have him.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_%C3%81ngel_Crespo
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Looks to be having a good career in Greece. Fair play to him.
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He has had a lot of experience at Arsenal and can play in more than one position in the back four. A sensible
if not spectacular signing.
Can we nickname him "Marilin"?
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well he has on occasion played in midfield so he obviously has some ball skills
Can you imagine Mings Konsa or even worse Hause playing in midfield !!
He might be more composed playing out from the back which I think is what Gerrard wants to do
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... I want Kessler to be our back up right back though, I don't see how Chambers could cover the progressive fullback role we would need for our style of play.
Correct; don't think Chambers has the pace required for FB.
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The only thing of significance that I remember is when he scored right in front of me at Emirates to equalise for Arsenal and we went on to lose the game 3-2 against 10 men. Another Carlos Cuellar.
Why is he another Carlos Cuellar?
His initials are also CC. ;)
Yes CC but to answer original question useful but nothing more than that.
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Can see Chambers being in the team Sunday vs Newcastle with Konsa suspended
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I can also see Chambers starting against the barcodes.
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No orange dot, no VAT, no money back, no guarantee
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Chambers is quite an agressive player and won't be shy for card or two.
He actually improved at right back and was putting some quality crosses in keeping Bellerin out the side for a while.
He said in his interview he wanted to kick on with his career I mean I think he'll only be booting Alan St Maximin on Sunday.
Chambers was looking to lead the line and defence and was very vocal other night I saw Mings push him out the way as he was trying to tell everyone to get into position and hold their line Mings moved him over too and they both continued a vocal cry in marshaling the defence from the umpteenth free kick gave away.
He's a very Steven G type player of the traditional English variety what he lacks in ability he has some heart and competitiveness.
Someone no doubt he would have snapped up at Rangers
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... Someone no doubt he would have snapped up at Rangers
Not sure that's a recommendation.
Cash and he better be on the same wavelength if he does play, because it's obvious that ASM will be expected to attack them hard.
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Chambers is quite an agressive player and won't be shy for card or two.
He actually improved at right back and was putting some quality crosses in keeping Bellerin out the side for a while.
He said in his interview he wanted to kick on with his career I mean I think he'll only be booting Alan St Maximin on Sunday.
Chambers was looking to lead the line and defence and was very vocal other night I saw Mings push him out the way as he was trying to tell everyone to get into position and hold their line Mings moved him over too and they both continued a vocal cry in marshaling the defence from the umpteenth free kick gave away.
He's a very Steven G type player of the traditional English variety what he lacks in ability he has some heart and competitiveness.
Someone no doubt he would have snapped up at Rangers
Christ, you don't half post some subjective bollocks dressed as fact.
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Very English players like Coutinho and Digne. The latter replacing an actual English player. Right you are Footy.
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While not always agreeing, I admire Footy's take on things! He notices stuff other folk don't, a bit like SoccerHQ but more controversial. Both great contributors though.
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While not always agreeing, I admire Footy's take on things! He notices stuff other folk don't, a bit like SoccerHQ but more controversial. Both great contributors though.
It's easy to notice things when it is complete nonsense. You can make all kinds of shit up and sell it to someone.
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Very English players like Coutinho and Digne. The latter replacing an actual English player. Right you are Footy.
Given Coutinho is effectively doing the job that Grealish used to be doing and (arguably) wasn't replaced in the summer, both of them are.
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While not always agreeing, I admire Footy's take on things! He notices stuff other folk don't, a bit like SoccerHQ but more controversial. Both great contributors though.
It's easy to notice things when it is complete nonsense. You can make all kinds of shit up and sell it to someone.
Harsh. I value observations like:
Chambers was looking to lead the line and defence and was very vocal other night I saw Mings push him out the way as he was trying to tell everyone to get into position and hold their line Mings moved him over too and they both continued a vocal cry in marshaling the defence from the umpteenth free kick gave away.
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
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Ah, the Infinite Monkey Theorem.
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
Utter, utter, utter nonsense. Little digs at the manager dressed up as observations to hide the fact you haven’t got over Smith yet.
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While not always agreeing, I admire Footy's take on things! He notices stuff other folk don't, a bit like SoccerHQ but more controversial. Both great contributors though.
It's easy to notice things when it is complete nonsense. You can make all kinds of shit up and sell it to someone.
Harsh. I value observations like:
Chambers was looking to lead the line and defence and was very vocal other night I saw Mings push him out the way as he was trying to tell everyone to get into position and hold their line Mings moved him over too and they both continued a vocal cry in marshaling the defence from the umpteenth free kick gave away.
Yes it's an observation that he was very determined in his stewarding and like an Ashley Young not afraid to speak up and speak out and organise things. He's a vocal lad
I actually think he can give some good delivery from the right side but it's getting up and down the pitch
In a squad a super assest because he can play several positions and has good experience if a little injury prone.
He'll do OK and be reliable if sometimes a liability but I wouldn't ever fault his commitment.
Exactly the sort who needed in a squad
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
He's made 152 Premier League appearances. And made 148 fouls (less than one a game) in those appearances leading to 28 Yellow Cards; less than 1 in 5 then.
I don't understand your point.
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
Utter, utter, utter nonsense. Little digs at the manager dressed up as observations to hide the fact you haven’t got over Smith yet.
Not really because it's good for a squad to have a player like Chambers.
Dependable and will go about his business.
It's wise just not perhaps what we all would have wanted and just feel Callum going to Rangers under Gerrard wouldn't have been a surprise. Nothing to mention Deano
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
He's made 152 Premier League appearances. And made 148 fouls (less than one a game) in those appearances leading to 28 Yellow Cards; less than 1 in 5 then.
I don't understand your point.
He's up against one of the best players in the league and in a few years probably the world/Europe in Alan St Maximan its a tough full debut.
Anyway what is really good is how vocal he is and that's good to have
I think we don't need to run anymore rule over him till Sunday then can see for yourself what I wanted to point out.
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
He's made 152 Premier League appearances. And made 148 fouls (less than one a game) in those appearances leading to 28 Yellow Cards; less than 1 in 5 then.
I don't understand your point.
He's up against one of the best players in the league and in a few years probably the world/Europe in Alan St Maximan its a tough full debut.
Anyway what is really good is how vocal he is and that's good to have
I think we don't need to run anymore rule over him till Sunday then can see for yourself what I wanted to point out.
Hang on, you started with the opinion dressed as fact, all I did was answer it with the actual facts, so you're the one 'running the rule' over him, which isn't accurate. He may end up with a booking, but that's not because he's a dirty player per-se, more that someone like Maximin will likely attract bookings because of his pace and trickery. Any player could be caught out by it.
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I'm talking about Chambo not Digne and Coutinho. ???
And that he's a competitive player.
And we cant be surprised if he booked on Sunday.
Hardly nonsense. I don't know what people don't understand sometimes.
He's made 152 Premier League appearances. And made 148 fouls (less than one a game) in those appearances leading to 28 Yellow Cards; less than 1 in 5 then.
I don't understand your point.
He's up against one of the best players in the league and in a few years probably the world/Europe in Alan St Maximan its a tough full debut.
Anyway what is really good is how vocal he is and that's good to have
I think we don't need to run anymore rule over him till Sunday then can see for yourself what I wanted to point out.
Hang on, you started with the opinion dressed as fact, all I did was answer it with the actual facts, so you're the one 'running the rule' over him, which isn't accurate. He may end up with a booking, but that's not because he's a dirty player per-se, more that someone like Maximin will likely attract bookings because of his pace and trickery. Any player could be caught out by it.
Thank you for those stats I like them for this debate.
But what of his injuries and wanting to make up for lost time maybe this is why I see such agressive determination as well as average defending Because the stats are saying otherwise and I cannot be totally mistaken as I judge players pretty well on the whole. So it's just not as many cards as expected however he has a low ceiling for me.
He's better than Phil Jones who was very highly rated but I mean Tuanzebe was capable.
On those lack of cards will it can also be said the officiating is known to let fouls go and not always penalise and would stand up still to say he has to watch his discipline and step because of limitations in some of his positioning , and also his over committed nature. That is based on my observations where of course I may not be communicating it in correct form.
And I appreciate you debate politely rather than some who get bawdy.
Can we now wait till Sunday and I hold hands up that to others the yellow cards aren't really a thing for Chambers to be as concerned as initially thought. Though I remain sceptical I know he can be solid enough.
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Played very well today. Never easy stepping in last minute. But more than a competent performance.
And this ball to PC is just sublime
https://twitter.com/benavfc__/status/1500135840290422785?s=21
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One of those goals where you're not quite sure you can celebrate it because you don't know if VAR will chalk it off for offside.
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Played very well today. Never easy stepping in last minute. But more than a competent performance.
And this ball to PC is just sublime
https://twitter.com/benavfc__/status/1500135840290422785?s=21
He’s put Ezri under pressure with that performance.
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What a pass that was. Sublime.
One of the goals of the season so far.
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Well done Callum.
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Played very well today. Never easy stepping in last minute. But more than a competent performance.
And this ball to PC is just sublime
https://twitter.com/benavfc__/status/1500135840290422785?s=21
He’s put Ezri under pressure with that performance.
Steady on. Ezri Konsa is by far a better footballer let alone defender
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That ball was insane.
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That ball was insane.
For a player whose passes sometimes make James Collins look like Beckham, I’ve no idea where the thought of even attempting that ball came from, let alone pulling it off to perfection.
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That ball was insane.
It was outrageous, and I was about to castigate him for not moving it onto the right flank.
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He played well today and it was a delicious, almost Coutinho like pass. He's a solid second string centre back who won't let us down.
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That ball was insane.
Absolutely unreal - everyone around us was try to fathom how the fuck that happened
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Played very well today. Never easy stepping in last minute. But more than a competent performance.
And this ball to PC is just sublime
https://twitter.com/benavfc__/status/1500135840290422785?s=21
He’s put Ezri under pressure with that performance.
Steady on. Ezri Konsa is by far a better footballer let alone defender
I agree, but you can’t deny CC had a great game today.
Every player needs someone to put a bit of pressure on, and Calum didn’t look out of place today
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Played very well today. Never easy stepping in last minute. But more than a competent performance.
And this ball to PC is just sublime
https://twitter.com/benavfc__/status/1500135840290422785?s=21
He’s put Ezri under pressure with that performance.
Steady on. Ezri Konsa is by far a better footballer let alone defender
I agree, but you can’t deny CC had a great game today.
Every player needs someone to put a bit of pressure on, and Calum didn’t look out of place today
He had A very good game. So he deserves all of those plaudits. Konsa has had many good and great games so I’m not ready to move away from him. But good that we have a solid right sided back up CB
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That pass.
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He was good on the high balls which trouble us at times. Handy player to have in the squad.
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Chambers was excellent yesterday I thought. Dealt with everything really well.
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Solid and, largely, unfussy player. A good acqiusition although I can't see him playing at RB!?
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Was impressed with his contribution Saturday. To me he looked a weak link at Arsenal but has slotted in nicely when needed. That pass was something else, spotting the opportunity was one thing but it's execution, a thing of beauty.
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Bloody hell
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He’s got the shirt now and deservedly so
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Been excellent in the last couple of games.
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Who knew?
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Who knew?
Lange 😎
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Well played
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We've done pretty well picking up Arsenals castoffs, and this guy was for free!
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2 of the most outrageous touches in the last couple of games. If Coutinho had done them id be waxing lyrical but for a CB to do them is fucking unreal.
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Superb goal. Let's keep watching it...
https://streamable.com/1s7t15
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It wasn’t just a ‘hit and hope’ goal, either. He knew where he wanted it to go. Fantastic strike
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Looking like a nice bit of business.
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I thought he was terrific tonight, even before and without his goal. Sceptical initially, I'm now looking forward to him becoming a big player for us and i think he might just be the player that Mings needs alongside him (with all due respect to Konsa, who I like a lot).
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Wand of a right foot.
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I thought he was terrific tonight, even before and without his goal. Sceptical initially, I'm now looking forward to him becoming a big player for us and i think he might just be the player that Mings needs alongside him (with all due respect to Konsa, who I like a lot).
I'd rather Chambers alongside Konsa!
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He’s playing above his average right now. And long may it continue. But there is a reason he was a free transfer so if or likely when he doesn’t play to this standard we all need to “get it”. But as of right now, what a simply superb start to his career with us.
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Toronto, sorry, but I don't agree, this free transfer was from Arsenal, who thought Emi wasn't good enough.
They clearly can't spot hidden talent in their squad, heaven help us when they do!
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Toronto, sorry, but I don't agree, this free transfer was from Arsenal, who thought Emi wasn't good enough.
They clearly can't spot hidden talent in their squad, heaven help us when they do!
He’s been in the league a good while is my point. He’s playing above himself which is awesome. I’m just saying that it’s unlikely he’s going to making Pirlo passes and scoring Zidane type goals every game. We’ve played Southampton and Leeds. Hopefully he can carry this on with some tougher tests coming up.
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Ah...now I get it.
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He looks like he is loving it. A roll your sleeves up type player who not long ago was highly rated and tipped to be a big player. He obviously has talent, his weakness has been a tendency to dive in and rush when he needs to be calm. He has been given a chance and has grabbed it with both hands.
Absolute peach of a strike.
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A cracking goal and another clean sheet with him in the team. You can't argue with that and I'm a big Konsa fan.
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What a brilliant goal I had a good view from where I was sitting just brilliant.
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On his debut after a few 'agricultural' early touches I said he looked a limited player... how wrong can you be! Looks like we have four extremely solid centre backs now which is a huge positive.
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I thought he was terrific tonight, even before and without his goal. Sceptical initially, I'm now looking forward to him becoming a big player for us and i think he might just be the player that Mings needs alongside him (with all due respect to Konsa, who I like a lot).
Totally agree with this and said the same thing last night. Konsa has got a big future, but I get the impression that when Mings is alongside him that Mings is having to do all of the organising and not concentrating on his own game. A great comparison is with the first Leeds game a few weeks back - Mings was getting stick for making mistakes in that game, but from my perspective he was doing the job of both centre-backs at times. Their third goal that night was the real case in point, Mings having just made a couple of last-ditch clearances was at the point where a mistake was becoming inevitable.
With Chambers you can already see he is much more comfortable organising people around and in front of him, which is allowing Mings to focus on his own game. I can see this being our CB partnership for the rest of this season now unless something happens to either of them.
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After the Newcastle game I was worried about his confidence.
But the last 3 games he’s contributed to clean sheets and a goal.
Thought it was good business when we signed him, but he’s shown he has great technical ability.
Could be a stroke of genius signing considering the fee, if there were one at all.
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Shades of Stauntons goal at Manure in 93, with the sound of the net rattling
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Put him for another start v Liverpool today. Earned the right and would put him ahead of Konsa if not deployed in midfield again
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Unlucky not to start last night or even come on as a sub after doing well at Burnley. I wonder how long he'll stick around as a reserve/utility cos I can't seem him being a regular starter and that's what he left Arsenal for.
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Unlucky not to start last night or even come on as a sub after doing well at Burnley. I wonder how long he'll stick around as a reserve/utility cos I can't seem him being a regular starter and that's what he left Arsenal for.
I don't agree with that last bit to be honest. I'm sure all players want to be starting every game, but he also joined knowing that Mings and Konsa were first choice central defenders, and that we're an ambitious club likely to strengthen further in the summer. I think he's probably aware that his versatility is both a strength and a weakness, in that he'll be a guaranteed squad member without necessarily starting many games.
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Hope so but he strikes me as the type who will move to Palace/back to Fulham if he's only made half a dozen starts or less by next January.
Hause signed a new deal in January but hasn't been heard of since (injured, lately, granted) and there's been talk about him leaving for WH in the summer (him and Watkins in a Brucie Bonus deal...imagine how under-whelmed you'd be...).
I just think, for where we're at - only playing 40 games a season (no Europe and shite/terrible draws in the domestic cups), settled positions like defence are going to mean a lot of under-studies kicking their heels next season. The alternative is to promote more youth as back-ups but obviously it's a risky strategy if they suddenly have to play for an extended run of games due to injuries. You could also argue that having senior players as replacements pushes the first-steam starters in training and reduces complacency. But if they ain't getting the game time, it's gonna be a juggling act. We need to be in Europe asap.
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THE SUMMER SERIES | CALUM CHAMBERS & JONATHAN BOND | ARSENAL | ASTON VILLA | LA GALAXY
A bit too much Arsenal but it's okay
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THE SUMMER SERIES | CALUM CHAMBERS & JONATHAN BOND | ARSENAL | ASTON VILLA | LA GALAXY
A bit too much Arsenal but it's okay
From the photo, Bono looks much less of a c*nt than he normally does.
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Any Arsenal is too much Arsenal.
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Sold himself for the Bolton goal yesterday
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Harsh. Thought he was fine, tbh.
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Bringing him to relevance for specific scrutiny and discussion if needed as has been selected to play centre back today v Man City.
Hes had a while to learn from Stevenage perforace and knows what to he has to do under Emery so good luck CC today.
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Straw-clutching but he's arguably better with the ball at his feet than Mings and surely not as one-footed.
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
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Bringing him to relevance for specific scrutiny and discussion if needed as has been selected to play centre back today v Man City.
Hes had a while to learn from Stevenage perforace and knows what to he has to do under Emery so good luck CC today.
He is utter fucking shit and good enough for a lower tier Championship side. Learned from Stevenage…sure
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Weakest performances are from Bailey, Ramsey (second week running for those two) and Chambers. It’s like playing with eight.
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Chambers is another fringe player that I hope finds another club in the summer, not good enough.
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I feel bad for him that he only gets thrown-in for the odd game as part of a defensive unit that are used to playing each other.
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He hasn't played much at all, so might be being a bit harsh, but lost count of the amount of times players got in behind him today.
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Was a good signing a year ago. Not so much now.
Will be moved on in the summer.
Can have endless Mings debates but one thing's for certain, Konsa-Chambers combination certainly isn't good enough in any aspect of defending.
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Not PL standard to put it mildly but has no chance at LCB.
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Chambers' main problem playing in Mings' position is he has to check back on to his right foot. He might be an adequate deputy for the right side of central defence on occasion but not the left.
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Chambers' main problem playing in Mings' position is he has to check back on to his right foot. He might be an adequate deputy for the right side of central defence on occasion but not the left.
Is Konsa totally incapable of playing on the left? He's more mobile than Chambers and not like he's a progressive player on the ball either, majority of his passes are either back to Emi or to the nearest FB.
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Good lad but he will be at home in the championship playing for Stoke city.
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His problem is what position is he actually valuable in the PL.
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Good lad but he will be at home in the championship playing for Stoke city.
Can see Sheffield United signing him.
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Perlease!! Get a grip, all of you!
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
that might work in league one
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Honestly, that's one of the most batshit mental posts I've ever seen on this site - and this site does batshit mental big time.
What sort of mind bending drugs would you have to take to see that? Peyote? Or that stuff they chew in Africa?
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He’s not a Premier League quality centre back.
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Honestly, that's one of the most batshit mental posts I've ever seen on this site - and this site does batshit mental big time.
What sort of mind bending drugs would you have to take to see that? Peyote? Or that stuff they chew in Africa?
As a teenager i tried magic mushrooms for the first time with some mates who were Albion supporters. We watched a re run of a wba vrs chartlon game, on re wind, it was a game played in a mud bath, Brian Talbot was the WBA manager and watching the players run backwards through the mud was both nuts and hilarious.
I would like to see Footys back three, but only if i was back on the mushrooms
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Honestly, that's one of the most batshit mental posts I've ever seen on this site - and this site does batshit mental big time.
What sort of mind bending drugs would you have to take to see that? Peyote? Or that stuff they chew in Africa?
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Honestly, that's one of the most batshit mental posts I've ever seen on this site - and this site does batshit mental big time.
What sort of mind bending drugs would you have to take to see that? Peyote? Or that stuff they chew in Africa?
Well he's better than Bednarek. Having seen the own goal just now on MOTD. Could have had him back there!
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Better than Bednarek is like having a one inch dick and bragging it’s the biggest in a room full of women.
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Honestly, that's one of the most batshit mental posts I've ever seen on this site - and this site does batshit mental big time.
What sort of mind bending drugs would you have to take to see that? Peyote? Or that stuff they chew in Africa?
Khat shit, get Langed.
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Better than Bednarek is like having a one inch dick and bragging it’s the biggest in a room full of women.
Ha!
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I don’t think he is any better than Bednarek. He might well be equally as bad though. I just knew he’d make an error that would cost us. If he defended that like he should have they get a corner at best. We’re getting into the habit of shipping goals because of basic errors.
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He's more back up for the right sided centre back and occaisional right back if needed. I think he's perfectly ok for that role. Unfortunately with the Carlos injury we had to make do and he's clearly not comfortable on the left. Maybe he could have made a better fist of it but I still think he's decent enough as back up to Konsa.
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He's more back up for the right sided centre back and occaisional right back if needed. I think he's perfectly ok for that role. Unfortunately with the Carlos injury we had to make do and he's clearly not comfortable on the left. Maybe he could have made a better fist of it but I still think he's decent enough as back up to Konsa.
Is Konsa incapable of being the LCB? He is more mobile and athletic than Chambers and not like his progressive passing would be disrupted from other side as mostly he just passes it sideways to the fullback.
Chambers just struggles in the games where there's endless movement infront of him. They quickly worked out aswell a direct ball turning him and mistakes happen, very poor for second goal.
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Honestly, that's one of the most batshit mental posts I've ever seen on this site - and this site does batshit mental big time.
What sort of mind bending drugs would you have to take to see that? Peyote? Or that stuff they chew in Africa?
Guardiola's policy of three at the back with no left back apart from when Bernando Silva is dropping in is real and so could Kamara dropping back for us -have that been just for build up play and possession-based stakes.
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Not even good enough to be a backup or ‘do a job for us’ unless it’s a bad one
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I can see him Konsa and Kamara making up part of a back 3
Thankfully only you can see that...
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He was terrible, genuinely terrible. Although some of our Champions League bound keeper's decision making leaves a lot to be desired recently.
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He was terrible, genuinely terrible. Although some of our Champions League bound keeper's decision making leaves a lot to be desired recently.
I don't think he is as well suited to playing behind a defence that tries to play it out from the back. He's been pretty ropey since the world cup, and generally not as good ever since Emery rocked up.
Obviously, he is still far better than any of our other options right now, but tbh if we can get silly money for him in the summer I'd cash in. I find all the shithousing and time-wasting irritating as well.
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Ben not so "Chill"-well 0
Callum "no nonsense" Chambers 1
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Callum Chambers is ill and unavailable for Liverpool
Do we buy that?
I think have seen the last of him at Villa and he's going.
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Why do you post such utter garbage?
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Citeh have met his release clause fee, I'd say that's quite obvious.
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He's gone to Dublin on a bender and it's gonna get messy.
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He's gone to Dublin on a bender and it's gonna get messy.
Messi??!!!
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Why do you post such utter garbage?
I suggest your post is not helpful to anyone outside of you wanting to have a go at someone.
If you disagree, you might simply state, "I disagree" or "That's not how I see Chambers being ill and unavailable."
I've stated that he is ill and have introduced an issue for discussion as well as opinion that he will go. Can you either be constructive and partake or just leave it alone. Its not very nice to be harangued by posters because they want me silenced.
I'm done talking.
Come on now lets focus on the Villa game.
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We are swapping Chambers for Messi?
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Nah, Messi is on the piss in Dublin.. I think?
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Why do you post such utter garbage?
I suggest your post is not helpful to anyone outside of you wanting to have a go at someone.
If you disagree, you might simply state, "I disagree" or "That's not how I see Chambers being ill and unavailable."
I've stated that he is ill and have introduced an issue for discussion as well as opinion that he will go. Can you either be constructive and partake or just leave it alone. Its not very nice to be harangued by posters because they want me silenced.
I'm done talking.
Come on now lets focus on the Villa game.
Stop talking such utter shit then.
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Why do you post such utter garbage?
I suggest your post is not helpful to anyone outside of you wanting to have a go at someone.
If you disagree, you might simply state, "I disagree" or "That's not how I see Chambers being ill and unavailable."
I've stated that he is ill and have introduced an issue for discussion as well as opinion that he will go. Can you either be constructive and partake or just leave it alone. Its not very nice to be harangued by posters because they want me silenced.
I'm done talking.
Come on now lets focus on the Villa game.
Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
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Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
Stop quoting him quoting him.
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Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
Stop quoting him quoting him.
Let us wait and see if this is rubbish or if Chambers is leaving in the summer. We'll see what happens with my proposed reasonable concept.
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I'm done talking.
If only.
You keep saying that every time someone pulls you up on something.
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I'm done talking.
If only.
You keep saying that every time someone pulls you up on something.
Can I enlighten you Rice hasn't got four kids.
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Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
Stop quoting him quoting him.
Let us wait and see if this is rubbish or if Chambers is leaving in the summer. We'll see what happens with my proposed reasonable concept.
Yeah but this is what you do.
You take two assertions, one of which is a reasonable suspicion: "Calum Chambers will leave in the summer".
I don't disagree with that, and I don't think anyone would think that's in any way insane.
But then you attach to the reasonable suggestion some reasoning that is absolutely bat shit mental, ie: the fact he is leaving in the summer is why he wasn't in the squad.
Can't you see the logic in the above?
I reckon there are several players who have featured in squads in recent games who won't be here next season.
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Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
Stop quoting him quoting him.
Let us wait and see if this is rubbish or if Chambers is leaving in the summer. We'll see what happens with my proposed reasonable concept.
Yeah but this is what you do.
You take two assertions, one of which is a reasonable suspicion: "Calum Chambers will leave in the summer".
I don't disagree with that, and I don't think anyone would think that's in any way insane.
But then you attach to the reasonable suggestion some reasoning that is absolutely bat shit mental, ie: the fact he is leaving in the summer is why he wasn't in the squad.
Can't you see the logic in the above?
I reckon there are several players who have featured in squads in recent games who won't be here next season.
You also incorrectly stated Rice had 4 kids. Based on observation.
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Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
Stop quoting him quoting him.
Let us wait and see if this is rubbish or if Chambers is leaving in the summer. We'll see what happens with my proposed reasonable concept.
Yeah but this is what you do.
You take two assertions, one of which is a reasonable suspicion: "Calum Chambers will leave in the summer".
I don't disagree with that, and I don't think anyone would think that's in any way insane.
But then you attach to the reasonable suggestion some reasoning that is absolutely bat shit mental, ie: the fact he is leaving in the summer is why he wasn't in the squad.
Can't you see the logic in the above?
I reckon there are several players who have featured in squads in recent games who won't be here next season.
Lets hear some Names.
Let's see your judgement and accuracy levels.
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my god, some of you lot talk some utter tripe :D
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Stop talking such utter shit then.
Stop quoting him, then we don't all have to endure the garbage!
Stop quoting him quoting him.
Let us wait and see if this is rubbish or if Chambers is leaving in the summer. We'll see what happens with my proposed reasonable concept.
Yeah but this is what you do.
You take two assertions, one of which is a reasonable suspicion: "Calum Chambers will leave in the summer".
I don't disagree with that, and I don't think anyone would think that's in any way insane.
But then you attach to the reasonable suggestion some reasoning that is absolutely bat shit mental, ie: the fact he is leaving in the summer is why he wasn't in the squad.
Can't you see the logic in the above?
I reckon there are several players who have featured in squads in recent games who won't be here next season.
You also incorrectly stated Rice had 4 kids. Based on observation.
I said he had four kids with him and suggested that's a phenomenal output if they are his. It was an aside, a comment on him being weighed down with children.
What you're doing is attaching bat shit nuts reasoning to what are often reasonable observtions.
Yes, we might sign more players from the MLS, but it will not be because of Chris Heck. Chris Heck's job is to drive commercial revenue.
Yes, Chris Heck is going to be important at the club but that does not mean because you can trace a line down the org chart that he's involved in player recruitment.
Yes, the manager and his staff are Spanish, and yes, they have a lot of knowledge of the Spanish market, so it is entirely reasonable to suggest that we'll sign a few players from there in the coming windows.
But then from that, you reckon that's because we're just signing players who speak Spanish. That's the batshit bit attached in this example.
I could go on and on on this, but I think you're just on a wind up, and it's so tiring, and it's on every thread.
You've got every right to post whatever you want, but don't be surprised if people pull you up on this.
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Yes that's all accurate. It's your choosing to dismiss any notion of reasoning. Because it's your and others interpretation who don't understand or want to even be open to ideas
I chose Douglas Luiz for player of the year having already suggested he was to be so. I was correct but I've never claimed to know best
I just have theories and like to run hypothesis which you lable as wind up.
We clearly have different ways that's all yet mine want to be trashed.
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Douglas Luiz being player of the season - completely rational and an opinion shared by lots of people on here.
Chambers not really being ill or injured - the ravings of a lunatic or somebody on a wind up.
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It's s now 10 games. He hasn't played a single minute in the Premier League this season,
Despite the fact that Chambers can play right back, defence, and midfield, he does not appear to be a feasible option.
As a non-contributor, he is detrimental to his own morale and the Emery family feel being cultivated. I believe he should be replaced in the winter window by someone more qualified to play Emery way. I just think now he taking up space in the team meetings and needs to move on. Squad members must serve a purpose and Chambers serves none.
Chambers can go off to Al-Ettifaq for a nice fee. That would be best all round.
What do people make of Chambers role ?
Emery doesn't do hangers on.
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I'm sure they'll have more than enough chairs at Bodymoor that one more person won't make much difference at team meetings.
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Could be another one to leave before the window closes.
Baggies and Hull City rumoured to be showing interest.
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Thanks Callum for the goal at Leeds, and that simply outrageous pass with the outside of your boot that led to a goal
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Taking up a space at team-meetings!!! That's a new one on me. Brilliant...poor Callum. I hope he trods on your foot just a little Footy, if you should ever meet as that was a very mean thing to say about him.
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Rumours he’s already turned down 3 offers . So he might be hanging around…let’s see
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Reputedly being pursued by some Championship clubs - given the way his career has petered out at Arsenal and Villa, then realistically the Championship might be his level.
Signed by us on a free.
Earns £25k per week.
Contract expires June 2025, so we're on the hook for a further £1.85m.
We'll let him go for zilch.
His dilemma is: Can he find a club willing to pay him £25k or more and give him regular minutes, OR is he happy to become an "invisible man" at Villa and then hope to get a new deal in the future?
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Chambers is the type to just hang around and collect the wages.
I see him sitting there on the bench, just happy to do nothing.Emery I suspect hasn't had much time for him, and neither have I.
It seems like he's a coaster, and I imagine Chambers doesn't want to learn the instructions, so is given no minutes.
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His dilemma is: Can he find a club willing to pay him £25k or more and give him regular minutes, OR is he happy to become an "invisible man" at Villa and then hope to get a new deal in the future?
25k isn't a huge amount for a footballer but given he basically does a few hours of training a week to earn it, I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of leaving to actually play football isn't appealing to him.
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Chambers is the type to just hang around and collect the wages.
I see him sitting there on the bench, just happy to do nothing.Emery I suspect hasn't had much time for him, and neither have I.
It seems like he's a coaster, and I imagine Chambers doesn't want to learn the instructions, so is given no minutes.
Much better to say you don’t rate him or don’t want him at the club you support than just come up with a load of unsubstantiated nonsense :-)
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He has a bad attitude
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Chambers is the type to just hang around and collect the wages.
I see him sitting there on the bench, just happy to do nothing.Emery I suspect hasn't had much time for him, and neither have I.
It seems like he's a coaster, and I imagine Chambers doesn't want to learn the instructions, so is given no minutes.
Much better to say you don’t rate him or don’t want him at the club you support than just come up with a load of unsubstantiated nonsense :-)
I mean, to be fair, footy isn't the only one thinking it. Usually when players aren't happy warming the bench they'll find a way out of the club. He does look perfectly happy with his lot at the moment. A few posts up says there's rumours he's even turned down offers to leave already.
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Well, if you look at his career, it's very telling since he became comfortable at Arsenal on a contact, and he did not progress, and was always loaned to struggling teams.
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Well, if you look at his career, it's very telling since he became comfortable at Arsenal on a contact, and he did not progress, and was always loaned to struggling teams.
It's more a case he's just a limited player with a low ceiling which he's hit
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It's those players that hang around at a club, refusing to leave.
Chambers isn't going to get a better club than us. It's downhill from here, and he knows it.
He may get opportunities to be a first teamer somewhere else but how motivated is he to move on
It would be great if Gerrard took him over to Saudi Arabia.
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Chambers is the type to just hang around and collect the wages.
I see him sitting there on the bench, just happy to do nothing.Emery I suspect hasn't had much time for him, and neither have I.
It seems like he's a coaster, and I imagine Chambers doesn't want to learn the instructions, so is given no minutes.
Much better to say you don’t rate him or don’t want him at the club you support than just come up with a load of unsubstantiated nonsense :-)
Well he's not in Emerys plans so I would think if he follows instructions he would be but there's a clear and distinctive impression he doesn't.
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Or, he's just not good enough.
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If he sticks around, he has the chance of a bit of glory I suppose - he could be on the bench for a Conference League or FA Cup Final win.
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Well it would make sense if he just made way.
Give someone else the squad space and can go and play elsewhere
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If he sticks around, he has the chance of a bit of glory I suppose - he could be on the bench for a Conference League or FA Cup Final win.
And get some bonuses! Must be in his contract!
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Well, if you look at his career, it's very telling since he became comfortable at Arsenal on a contact, and he did not progress, and was always loaned to struggling teams.
If he was so comfortable at Arsenal, why do you think he left his deal six months early to join a club where he had more chance of playing?
If we are paying him £25k a week, I can’t imagine he was on less at Arsenal, so I don’t think it was for the money or a comfier seat.
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If he sticks around, he has the chance of a bit of glory I suppose - he could be on the bench for a Conference League or FA Cup Final win.
And get some bonuses! Must be in his contract!
Yup, the contract the club gave him
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It's those players that hang around at a club, refusing to leave.
Chambers isn't going to get a better club than us. It's downhill from here, and he knows it.
He may get opportunities to be a first teamer somewhere else but how motivated is he to move on
It would be great if Gerrard took him over to Saudi Arabia.
This is the thing, though, we talk about players refusing to leave (ie when they're not getting game time) but if any one of us was faced with sitting tight where we were, on a fat 50k a week contract, the idea of moving permanently to some horrific shit tip like Albion on significantly less money would be anathema.
If clubs find themselves in this situation, it's their fault for offering the stupid money in the first place.
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It's those players that hang around at a club, refusing to leave.
Chambers isn't going to get a better club than us. It's downhill from here, and he knows it.
He may get opportunities to be a first teamer somewhere else but how motivated is he to move on
It would be great if Gerrard took him over to Saudi Arabia.
This is the thing, though, we talk about players refusing to leave (ie when they're not getting game time) but if any one of us was faced with sitting tight where we were, on a fat 50k a week contract, the idea of moving permanently to some horrific shit tip like Albion on significantly less money would be anathema.
If clubs find themselves in this situation, it's their fault for offering the stupid money in the first place.
Exactly this. A contract goes both ways.
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I honestly think he thought he’d be playing more.
But, yes, I can’t blame him for not wanting to go to West Brom. Or Hull. Much as I like Happy Hour and cheap pies.
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That lovely ball over the top for Coutinho to cross for Dougie to score from that free kick, though, that was properly magic. And that goal at Leeds.
The rest, though. Meh.
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Chambers is the type to just hang around and collect the wages.
I see him sitting there on the bench, just happy to do nothing.Emery I suspect hasn't had much time for him, and neither have I.
It seems like he's a coaster, and I imagine Chambers doesn't want to learn the instructions, so is given no minutes.
Much better to say you don’t rate him or don’t want him at the club you support than just come up with a load of unsubstantiated nonsense :-)
His currency is unsubstantiated nonsense.
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I sympathise. I sit around at work doing not a lot, and I’m sticking it out to the end. The thought of going somewhere to do some work is not at all appealing. And I’m not even on £25k a week.
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If his choice was going to Albion I can’t say I blame him, he’s more than entitled to see out the contract our club gave him.
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I sympathise. I sit around at work doing not a lot, and I’m sticking it out to the end. The thought of going somewhere to do some work is not at all appealing. And I’m not even on £25k a week.
😂
To be honest, even if West Brom were to offer me 25k a week to leave Tokyo and go and play for them, I probably wouldn't bother.
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If his choice was going to Albion I can’t say I blame him, he’s more than entitled to see out the contract our club gave him.
If it was a loan to the end of the season, then I'm surprised he hasn't taken it to be honest. As much as we might dislike them, it would make sense on a purely footballing basis. Would still get his wages, would play regular football for a team that might get into the play offs and wouldn't have to relocate.
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If his choice was going to Albion I can’t say I blame him, he’s more than entitled to see out the contract our club gave him.
And it’s not like he’s in the bomb squad, he is still only a couple of knocks from getting on the pitch….& he’ll still be on the bench week in week out with prospect of European knock out football…
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If his choice was going to Albion I can’t say I blame him, he’s more than entitled to see out the contract our club gave him.
And it’s not like he’s in the bomb squad, he is still only a couple of knocks from getting on the pitch….& he’ll still be on the bench week in week out with prospect of European knock out football…
I agree with this. If it was only going to be a loan, then fuck that, it's worth keeping him as a body for the rest of the season.
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i can understand why he wouldn't want to move miles away eg Sunderland / Boro as he may have kids at school etc locally .
I can also understand why we don't want to help Albion out or Small Heath . We should have an embargo against helping those clubs + Wolves
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Must really like the hour long meetings.
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I sympathise. I sit around at work doing not a lot, and I’m sticking it out to the end. The thought of going somewhere to do some work is not at all appealing. And I’m not even on £25k a week.
😂
To be honest, even if West Brom were to offer me 25k a week to leave Tokyo and go and play for them, I probably wouldn't bother.
Either you are well paid or exageerating to make a point.
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I sympathise. I sit around at work doing not a lot, and I’m sticking it out to the end. The thought of going somewhere to do some work is not at all appealing. And I’m not even on £25k a week.
😂
To be honest, even if West Brom were to offer me 25k a week to leave Tokyo and go and play for them, I probably wouldn't bother.
Either you are well paid or exageerating to make a point.
I mean that's pretty obvious. Axl is a pimp yo'.
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I would imagine for loan offers there wouldn’t be any wage reduction as we would have paid part. It's hard to understand why he wouldn’t go the Baggies if they wanted him as it was an opportunity to build a long term career.
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Perhaps he just hates the Albion.
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Perhaps he just hates the Albion.
Deserves a start tomorrow if so.
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Let's face it you know your career is on the decline if you decide joining West Brom on loan in the 2nd division is your only option.
I'd say he'd rather keep his pride and continue to be a PL player, it keeps his stock higher, as once you drop down a division as an older player it will be harder to get back up.
Maybe he feels not playing will also prolong his career.
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Maybe he's concerned for the safety of his family joining that sort of club.
We know what they are.
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I sympathise. I sit around at work doing not a lot, and I’m sticking it out to the end. The thought of going somewhere to do some work is not at all appealing. And I’m not even on £25k a week.
😂
To be honest, even if West Brom were to offer me 25k a week to leave Tokyo and go and play for them, I probably wouldn't bother.
Either you are well paid or exageerating to make a point.
I'm underpaid. Just hate West Brom enough to be an awkward fucker if they ever tried to sign me 😂
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
How much do you get paid?
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
How much do you get paid?
85 grand at his online travel agency. He's a big deal.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
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Chambers is also someone who can cover in midfield if we're absolutely desperate and/or Tim isn't able to step up.
He played there for Fulham and was reasonably competent.
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Chambers is also someone who can cover in midfield if we're absolutely desperate and/or Tim isn't able to step up.
He played there for Fulham and was reasonably competent.
Tim is able to step up; no problem.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
Or you can't get a better job with your present employer because your workmates are backstabbing ( feel free to insert any word)and suckering up to the management
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
Well said, Paulie.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
Indeed well said, but been here before with this chap.
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Lol
https://x.com/total_villa/status/1753358419569045687?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
I could yes 😂
I hadn't thought of that, so thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
That's a few times now you've made cuntish remarks on something I've written. I recall comments about my relationship with my wife, also. Bizarre. Plus your 'maaaaate' nonsense. If you've got something to say, get it all out.
If not, fuck off you massive ringpiece
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I think that considered response is the matter settled.
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Excellent response.
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A*
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
I could yes 😂
I hadn't thought of that, so thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
That's a few times now you've made cuntish remarks on something I've written. I recall comments about my relationship with my wife, also. Bizarre. Plus your 'maaaaate' nonsense. If you've got something to say, get it all out.
If not, fuck off you massive ringpiece
👏
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A*
Erm.. is that a grade or an anus? ;D
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
100% agree and similar circumstances to me. The cleaners where I work properly graft, whereas some of the contractors in development are lazy bastards and probably take home ten times what the cleaner does.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
I could yes 😂
I hadn't thought of that, so thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
That's a few times now you've made cuntish remarks on something I've written. I recall comments about my relationship with my wife, also. Bizarre. Plus your 'maaaaate' nonsense. If you've got something to say, get it all out.
If not, fuck off you massive ringpiece
That was not lost in translation.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
100% agree and similar circumstances to me. The cleaners where I work properly graft, whereas some of the contractors in development are lazy bastards and probably take home ten times what the cleaner does.
Its really true - I run a small tech agency and everyone of my staff earn more than I do - and guess whos the one working on a Saturday
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I feel like I've been enlightened by 85kota. The next homeless person I see sleeping on cardboard is going to get this: "why are you sleeping in your own filth? Go and buy yourself a house you lazy bastard"
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I feel like I've been enlightened by 85kota. The next homeless person I see sleeping on cardboard is going to get this: "why are you sleeping in your own filth? Go and buy yourself a house you lazy bastard"
It's a lifestyle choice, according to some sociopathic government minister, I forget which one.
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I feel like I've been enlightened by 85kota. The next homeless person I see sleeping on cardboard is going to get this: "why are you sleeping in your own filth? Go and buy yourself a house you lazy bastard"
It's a lifestyle choice, according to some sociopathic government minister, I forget which one.
Suella. She says what we're all thinking. When we're on a ketamine comedown.
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I feel like I've been enlightened by 85kota. The next homeless person I see sleeping on cardboard is going to get this: "why are you sleeping in your own filth? Go and buy yourself a house you lazy bastard"
It's a lifestyle choice, according to some sociopathic government minister, I forget which one.
Braverman
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Chambers is also someone who can cover in midfield if we're absolutely desperate and/or Tim isn't able to step up.
He played there for Fulham and was reasonably competent.
Tim is able to step up; no problem.
Yes Unai stated Tim Iroegbunaman can push to share for duties and position of Kamara.
Unai also stated very clearly : "Some players can leave. Calum Chambers and Bertrand Traore can leave.."
Traroe left but Chambers won't budge.
He caused a blockage to the opportunity of adding players.
And now continues to stink out the squad! So will he even be given a bench place?
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Chambers is also someone who can cover in midfield if we're absolutely desperate and/or Tim isn't able to step up.
He played there for Fulham and was reasonably competent.
Tim is able to step up; no problem.
Yes Unai stated Tim Iroegbunaman can push to share for duties and position of Kamara.
Unai also stated very clearly : "Some players can leave. Calum Chambers and Bertrand Traore can leave.."
Traroe left but Chambers won't budge.
He caused a blockage to the opportunity of adding players.
And now continues to stink out the squad! So will he even be given a bench place?
Considering you claim to do 'research' and have 'understanding', you don't seem to understand how a footballers contract works. It's quite embarrassing really.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
100% agree and similar circumstances to me. The cleaners where I work properly graft, whereas some of the contractors in development are lazy bastards and probably take home ten times what the cleaner does.
Its really true - I run a small tech agency and everyone of my staff earn more than I do - and guess whos the one working on a Saturday
Maybe you need more staff or could be better at delegation. Hopefully you will be rewarded for your dedication later down the line and can have Saturdays off.
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Maybe Calum should start his own business when his contract expires.
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Are you always this patronising?
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
100% agree and similar circumstances to me. The cleaners where I work properly graft, whereas some of the contractors in development are lazy bastards and probably take home ten times what the cleaner does.
Its really true - I run a small tech agency and everyone of my staff earn more than I do - and guess whos the one working on a Saturday
Maybe you need more staff or could be better at delegation. Hopefully you will be rewarded for your dedication later down the line and can have Saturdays off.
Tell you what. You keep your thoughts inside your head rather than putting them on here. How about that?
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Did Chambers leave in the end?
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Did Chambers leave in the end?
No. Turned down three championship clubs, allegedly.
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
100% agree and similar circumstances to me. The cleaners where I work properly graft, whereas some of the contractors in development are lazy bastards and probably take home ten times what the cleaner does.
Its really true - I run a small tech agency and everyone of my staff earn more than I do - and guess whos the one working on a Saturday
Maybe you need more staff or could be better at delegation. Hopefully you will be rewarded for your dedication later down the line and can have Saturdays off.
I can think of another person that should take Saturday off.
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Did Chambers leave in the end?
Yes he has, now doing zero hours contract work (it's a joke)
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If you are underpaid you could try getting a better job.
Blimey, I think Lee Anderson is in the house.
It's what most people in employment seem to want to achieve. The potentially attainable jobs which pay more all look like they probably necessitate harder work though so sod that.
Christ, what a sweeping generalisation that is.
I've spent years earning high salaries in the tech industry, but I bet you what you like the cleaners who cleaned the various offices I worked in worked harder than I did.
I'd also like to know how people doing essential but vocational jobs - which are underpaid frequently because they are vocational - like nurses, for example, are supposed to "just get a better paid job" thereby leaving you fucked the first time you need essential medical treatment.
100% agree and similar circumstances to me. The cleaners where I work properly graft, whereas some of the contractors in development are lazy bastards and probably take home ten times what the cleaner does.
Its really true - I run a small tech agency and everyone of my staff earn more than I do - and guess whos the one working on a Saturday
Maybe you need more staff or could be better at delegation. Hopefully you will be rewarded for your dedication later down the line and can have Saturdays off.
Tell you what. You keep your thoughts inside your head rather than putting them on here. How about òthat?
Wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone did that
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Nobody else needs to do that.
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He's on the, rather thin and uninspiring, bench today...
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No call to Chambers for Europe - he's been left out of the Conference league squad.
I'm all for Callum to prove me wrong if he's willing to step up with Konsa injured but I suspect he may be on bench v Chelsea in the cup
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Must say, I was surprised when I saw this, especially when Chrisene is named and he's playing at Blackburn isn't he? Unless they are trying to pay him off, I am shocked that he's not named in the Conference squad.
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Unless the squad had to be confirmed before the end of the window, it makes no sense not to include him. Although I suppose the fact it's knock out football now we'll be putting out our strongest side every game, so barring an absolute catastrophic injury crisis, he wouldn't play anyway.
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Must say, I was surprised when I saw this, especially when Chrisene is named and he's playing at Blackburn isn't he? Unless they are trying to pay him off, I am shocked that he's not named in the Conference squad.
Think you can name kids under certain age without them being part of the 20 odd player squad
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Can someone post a link to the squad please?
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https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/clubs/52683--aston-villa/squad/
Anyone with a * (for example Ben Chrisene) is on the b squad list of players who are under 21 and have been with the club for more than 12 months. We have to include them but there's no restrictions on how many we can name on that list so the club will have just submitted everyone in the U21 and U18 squads (pretty much) and there's no reason to remove anyone unless they've been sold.
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Can someone post a link to the squad please?
Kamara listed as a defender ...
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Thanks.
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Am I missing it or is Kellyman still not in the squad?
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Chambers still couldn't get on tonight.
He's merely a place on the bench isn't he?
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He could not be any worse than Carlos.
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Am I missing it or is Kellyman still not in the squad?
Kellyman would have to take a squad a place because he hasn't been at the club long enough. He also doesn't count as club trained for that purpose and the 3 gaps in the squad are ringfenced for those.
Chambers isn't in for the same reason.
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He could not be any worse than Carlos.
Don’t bet on it
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Be close. I really really do not rate Carlos.
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Be close. I really really do not rate Carlos.
He’s nowhere near as good as Konsa but he is many, many levels above Chambers. That performance from Chambers in Poland was something to behold.
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Be close. I really really do not rate Carlos.
He’s nowhere near as good as Konsa but he is many, many levels above Chambers. That performance from Chambers in Poland was something to behold.
I agree…didn’t really see him play before we signed him so don’t know how the Carlos we are seeing now compared to the one before his injury. I’m with ozziim, seen nothing in him to be the 20m centre half
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At the time, Carlos formed one half of something like the 3rd meanest defence in Europe, so he clearly had something. Whether it's the injury, just not being cut out for the Premier League or a combination of the two, who knows.
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Sounds like we can put a lot of it down to the injury then, you don’t get a record like that by fluke do you
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His performance at home to Abu Dhabi shows he can play. I don’t think he’s a bad defender.
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There may be a slither of difference between Chambers and Carlos either way. What is clear though is that Chambers will keep his head when making tackles.
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There may be a slither of difference between Chambers and Carlos either way. What is clear though is that Chambers will keep his head when making tackles.
He’d have to get himself in a position to make a tackle first.
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There may be a slither of difference between Chambers and Carlos either way. What is clear though is that Chambers will keep his head when making tackles.
I was sure Carlos was going to get sent off last night. Gives the ball away a unbelievable amount. Was woeful at Old Trafford too. He's had a couple of decent games but generally been shit.
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Think he'll (Carlos) be off in the summer.
Don't see how a defender slow on the turn and dicey in possession is compatible with Emery long term. Two excellent games around Christmas. The rest meh or worse.
League One teams might let a bloke who stepped up for one or two games against the best dine out on it. But supposed upwardly mobile PL sides shouldn't.
Mad to think this was the Mings replacement from the Carpethead/ Lange braintrust.
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There may be a slither of difference between Chambers and Carlos either way. What is clear though is that Chambers will keep his head when making tackles.
I was sure Carlos was going to get sent off last night. Gives the ball away a unbelievable amount. Was woeful at Old Trafford too. He's had a couple of decent games but generally been shit.
Carlos was the main reason we fell to pieces against ManU. They'll be licking their lips at the weekend if they see his name on the team sheet. He may have been good at his previous club but for us he's been largely woeful. That may be down to his injury but the point still stands.
I just hope Pau is available to start Sunday.
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He can't be any worse than Lenglet
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I've never minded Chambers that much. The problem might be that because he's hardly played any football, he probably needs a run of games to get him going again.
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The one thing with Chambers is that his passing is generally quite good. He's a shit right back, but a reasonable centre back. It sounds like Emery has pretty much given up on him though.
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Warsaw away finished him as a Villa player.
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Warsaw away finished him as a Villa player.
He came in cold, though. Hard not to feel for the players on the fringes. If they don't hit the ground running in the one start they're granted, that's it.
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Didn’t he play right back that game?
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The one thing with Chambers is that his passing is generally quite good. He's a shit right back, but a reasonable centre back. It sounds like Emery has pretty much given up on him though.
Yeah he was ok at RCB, especially as third choice behind Mings and Konsa. But he's awful at LCB and RB. He had a horror show in ECL game but a bit harsh to write him off completely over it. Emery clearly doesn't rate him so Carlos will continue for now.
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and rightly so
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Chambers played right-back in Warsaw.
He was awful, though he wasn't alone in this.
He also played in the cup defeat to Everton, didn't he? Perhaps it was an attempt to put him in the shop window, as well as give other players a break, with all these European matches to play.
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Well done today - it must be so hard coming in completely cold, but he did a solid job.
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Unai Emery on Calum Chambers: "He's a very good man. I respect him a lot. Even in the summer, I said let him leave. In the winter, I said let him leave. But he decided to stay here.
"I am including him in everything and today I am very happy for him."
“We always called each other Goodfellas. Like you'd say to somebody: 'You're gonna like this guy, he's all right. He's a goodfella."
Who's the wiseguy now, huh?
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Fair play to him today. He did well but won’t be playing any high balls to Watkins from now on. The one he did play resulted in Emery going absolutely berserk.
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He did one great surge forward which was positive
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I thought he was fine today, kept control of the ball, couple of runs forward and generally was unnoticeable- which is good.
If Tyrone and Ezri are fit though he gets nowhere in the squad, so time to go in the summer
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He’s not to the named squad for the upcoming game vs Ajax. So with that in mind maybe it’s why Emery took Pau off. Konsa hopefully is back by then also.
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Chambers is far too pretty for a centre back, surely? He needs some sort of cool scar or something.
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Dont rate the guy but we cant bw harsh on him thrown in a make shift back four at a difficult point of the game. He did fine
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Unai Emery on Calum Chambers: "He's a very good man. I respect him a lot. Even in the summer, I said let him leave. In the winter, I said let him leave. But he decided to stay here.
"I am including him in everything and today I am very happy for him."
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No matter what, I train my hardest every day to make sure I’m at the best level I can be to perform! Picking up these 3 points is exactly what I work for!
https://x.com/calumchambers95/status/1761466908476408008?s=46
Good lad Callum. Great attitude.
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Always seems to have a good attitude, and it’s bloody good for us that he decided against leaving.
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Unai Emery on Calum Chambers: "He's a very good man. I respect him a lot. Even in the summer, I said let him leave. In the winter, I said let him leave. But he decided to stay here.
"I am including him in everything and today I am very happy for him."
"I didn't want him in the summer but he wouldn't leave. Then the same in the winter and the bugger still stayed" doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement from the manager.
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Well done Callum.
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Perhaps Unai didn't rate him, but was impressed by how demanding he was being.
"I DEMAND to stay here, I DEMAND not to go to Albion or some horrific shit-hole nothing club."
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Well done Callum.
Just because you insist on two l's...
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Well done today - it must be so hard coming in completely cold, but he did a solid job.
He was awful.
Another reminder why we select 2 goalkeepers on the bench.
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Well done today - it must be so hard coming in completely cold, but he did a solid job.
He was awful.
Another reminder why we select 2 goalkeepers on the bench.
i think that is really harsh mate
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Nonsense.
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Always seems to have a good attitude, and it’s bloody good for us that he decided against leaving.
Yeah, I wasn't impressed that he apparently turned down several offers to leave in January, but with the way injuries have gone, I'm not sure what lineup we'd have been looking at today if he had gone.
That said, I hope we don't have to use him too many more times.
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No matter what, I train my hardest every day to make sure I’m at the best level I can be to perform! Picking up these 3 points is exactly what I work for!
https://x.com/calumchambers95/status/1761466908476408008?s=46
Good lad Callum. Great attitude.
Tremendous attitude, fair play to him, didn’t let us down today.
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Considering some of the attitude of certain players previously we have had in recent years and that many like me think that he is surplus to requirements,he has gone up in my estimation
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Unai Emery on Calum Chambers: "He's a very good man. I respect him a lot. Even in the summer, I said let him leave. In the winter, I said let him leave. But he decided to stay here.
"I am including him in everything and today I am very happy for him."
"I didn't want him in the summer but he wouldn't leave. Then the same in the winter and the bugger still stayed" doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement from the manager.
I think Emery was blunt with him that he didn’t fit into his plans and could go to get regular football elsewhere. That he still stayed and remained professional is a credit to the player and Emery recognizes that. Chambers didn’t sulk. He carried on being a professional and will be useful down the stretch. It’s only a shame we have to use him because of injuries to others. But not a shame that we have a player we can call on to do a job. Most of the time quite well.
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He did well today and it must have been difficult having not played for so long.
Good attitude.
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Did ok, thought he was at fault for goal 2 but looks like Cash was asleep , he's not smooth on the ball but for 4th choice back up he's not terrible.
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He’s not 4th choice is he? He’s 6th.
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He’s not 4th choice is he? He’s 6th.
I was trying to be kind
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Did ok, thought he was at fault for goal 2 but looks like Cash was asleep , he's not smooth on the ball but for 4th choice back up he's not terrible.
There were a lot of people "at fault" for it, but Chambers with his step up was putting Gibb-White offside successfully.
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Did ok, thought he was at fault for goal 2 but looks like Cash was asleep , he's not smooth on the ball but for 4th choice back up he's not terrible.
There were a lot of people "at fault" for it, but Chambers with his step up was putting Gibb-White offside successfully.
Agreed, Cash seemed to having a right whinge after it but he was the one caught behind the defensive line. Terrible goal to concede. Both of them were.
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Did ok, thought he was at fault for goal 2 but looks like Cash was asleep , he's not smooth on the ball but for 4th choice back up he's not terrible.
There were a lot of people "at fault" for it, but Chambers with his step up was putting Gibb-White offside successfully.
Agreed, Cash seemed to having a right whinge after it but he was the one caught behind the defensive line. Terrible goal to concede. Both of them were.
Cash was probably having a whinge as that’s at least 10 minutes focusing on his decision making in Unai’s next video analysis session.
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Did ok, thought he was at fault for goal 2 but looks like Cash was asleep , he's not smooth on the ball but for 4th choice back up he's not terrible.
There were a lot of people "at fault" for it, but Chambers with his step up was putting Gibb-White offside successfully.
Agreed, Cash seemed to having a right whinge after it but he was the one caught behind the defensive line. Terrible goal to concede. Both of them were.
The goal is a catalogue of errors involving Tielemans right through to Cash. Fortunately it didn't matter in the end
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Well done today - it must be so hard coming in completely cold, but he did a solid job.
He was awful.
Another reminder why we select 2 goalkeepers on the bench.
i think that is really harsh mate
Not really.
He’s slow and a liability in defence. He can’t play out from the back.
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He's not terrible, but isn't the standard required for where the club is or wants to go by a long way.
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Not many will have a better 6th choice centre back though.
He hasn't ever really let us down when played in the middle and is clearly a good professional and teammate. He did well yesterday, some nice passing and solid enough.
No idea who would have been playing alongside Lenglet if we'd have sold him as intended in January.
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Well done today - it must be so hard coming in completely cold, but he did a solid job.
He was awful.
Another reminder why we select 2 goalkeepers on the bench.
harsh that. Considering he hasn't played (all season?) to step in and play as he did was really good.
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Credit where credit’s due he performed more than adequately when called upon. There was no shortage of confidence or self belief in his game and that run from the back with the ball was as good as any of our centre Half’s efforts this season.
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he’s 6 choice centre back so you just hope he gets through as best he can without any major mistakes
He’s right in line most of the time to where I sit and he still fills me with zero confidence I’m afraid
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Yeah he did absolutely fine, indeed genuinely good on the ball. The goal was Cash's fault not his.
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Yeah he did absolutely fine, indeed genuinely good on the ball. The goal was Cash's fault not his.
Tielemans loses possession poorly, then Luiz makes a mess of a ball he'd already won really, then Cash is asleep and plays everyone on.
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he’s 6 choice centre back so you just hope he gets through as best he can without any major mistakes
He’s right in line most of the time to where I sit and he still fills me with zero confidence I’m afraid
He hardly ever plays though so most of the time is a bit harsh.
I thought he did ok and let's face it, it's a good job he's still here.
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Jesus tough crowd. He’s our 3rd choice right sided CB and hasn’t played since his nightmare away at Warsaw in late September. He comes on at half time does a competent job for 45 mins of steadying our back line, distributes well, actually carries forwards well on a couple of occasions and did nothing wrong. And yet some seem to think him a liability. I wouldn’t want
Him in the team permanently but he’s just come on and performed in a team that won 4-2. What else were people expecting, goals and assists and a Franco Baresi impression.
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he’s 6 choice centre back so you just hope he gets through as best he can without any major mistakes
He’s right in line most of the time to where I sit and he still fills me with zero confidence I’m afraid
He hardly ever plays though so most of the time is a bit harsh.
I thought he did ok and let's face it, it's a good job he's still here.
He’s our 6th choice for a reason, and that reason is he’s no where near as good as the ones that are injured
You’re right it’s a good job we’ve have got him but if we have to rely on him more than just for bit parts in games then we will suffer for it.
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We've got no choice though so we might as well get behind the bloke when he plays, which I'm sure fans will.
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We've got no choice though so we might as well get behind the bloke when he plays, which I'm sure fans will.
I am behind when he plays
All I said was he doesn’t fill me with confidence
He replaced Pau Torres yesterday who is a top class maybe world-class performer, get behind him all we like but he won’t turn into prime Paul McGrath he weakens the team immeasurably because Chambers is not top class like Torres, these are just simple facts
There’s really no debate or argument here when you’ve got to use your 6th choice centre back your scraping the barrel, I agree get behind him and support him best we can but he’s still a liability compared to others further up the pecking order and I wouldn’t want to be relying on him for any length of time
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He spent the whole of the first half warming up at the tunnel. You'd have to think that he knew he was coming on at some point.
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We're using him because we have 4 centre half's unavailable. It's hardly scraping the barrel, it is what it is. The whole world and his wife knows he's not as good as Konsa or Torres but at the moment, needs must.
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Surely we’re using him because there is no alternative, which is pretty much the definition of scraping the barrel. He’s our last choice cb on any side because he’s the worst.
Did well yesterday though, let’s hope he continues to do so. Big shoes to fill.
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I’m hoping he doesn’t need to continue to do so, but he did well yesterday and we needed him.
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Not many teams would have a better 5th choice CB. Seems a likeable guy as well. The drop off from 1st choice to 5th choice is going to be massive for any team, most would be chucking a kid in.
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He spent the whole of the first half warming up at the tunnel. You'd have to think that he knew he was coming on at some point.
maybe it was pre-planned that if we got a decent lead he would be rested . Or maybe Torres still isn't quite 100% so he was told to be on alert.
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Yeah, he was alright overall. If he looked rusty to some, it was possibly the lack of game time.
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There’s really no argument here, we’re all in agreement as far as I can see
Just people expressing it in different ways
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It’s pretty amazing, though, when you think - Mings, Torres, Konsa and Carlos - at the start of the season was possibly the strongest CB line up in the premier league.
Even losing Mings and bringing in Lenglet (and thank fuck we did) it is incredibly strong yet despite that strength in depth, we’ve been decimated there.
Dreadful luck and if Unai manages to navigate through that, he’s a genius.
FWIW re Chambers in Warsaw, he was dreadful yes, but so were the rest of them, and I thought after him the worst of the rest was Lenglet, who has been decent of late.
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Chambers did well when he came on and better than I expected from a lad with so few minutes in his legs. Lenglet had one of his better games. He always looks like he's repeating a mantra of 'Don't fuck it up' in his head, but he looked way more assured yesterday afternoon and way more positive.
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Yeah he did absolutely fine, indeed genuinely good on the ball. The goal was Cash's fault not his.
Tielemans loses possession poorly, then Luiz makes a mess of a ball he'd already won really, then Cash is asleep and plays everyone on.
Lenglet was brutal too. It was a clever pass from Origi but there was three of our players around him.
Our defensive organisation for their other chances for Yates and Elanga was appalling too. Chambers at fault for at least one of them. But you get down to your 5th and 6th choice centre backs and you can't expect your defensive line to be pitch perfect.
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Yeah he did absolutely fine, indeed genuinely good on the ball. The goal was Cash's fault not his.
Tielemans loses possession poorly, then Luiz makes a mess of a ball he'd already won really, then Cash is asleep and plays everyone on.
Lenglet was brutal too. It was a clever pass from Origi but there was three of our players around him.
Our defensive organisation for their other chances for Yates and Elanga was appalling too. Chambers at fault for at least one of them. But you get down to your 5th and 6th choice centre backs and you can't expect your defensive line to be pitch perfect.
As we won the game we aren't sat here picking it apart. We scored 4 and probably should have scored 2/3 more in reality (Tielemans hit post etc) they score score and miss 1/2 decent efforts . Overall we cruised all over them bar a 20 min bit of turbulance.
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Thank God we've got him, given the injuries we've had this season.