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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on January 22, 2022, 10:26:57 PM
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Everton v Aston Villa: Lucas Digne & Matty Cash hit by bottle - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60096907
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Everton v Aston Villa: Lucas Digne & Matty Cash hit by bottle - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60096907
You could clearly see the incident on the TV footage.
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It wouldn't have been so bad but one of the bottles landed right on top of Cashy's bare scalp.
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Konsa took the lid off one of the bottles, and had a swig. Not sure that was the greatest of ideas tbh.
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Nd because of these utter twats, everyone else continue to have drinks without lids.
At this rate I can see them banning bottled drinks completely.
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Konsa took the lid off one of the bottles, and had a swig. Not sure that was the greatest of ideas tbh.
I know, who knows what might have been in there!
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Konsa took the lid off one of the bottles, and had a swig. Not sure that was the greatest of ideas tbh.
I know, who knows what might have been in there!
Hopefully it wasn't Carling
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Nd because of these utter twats, everyone else continue to have drinks without lids.
At this rate I can see them banning bottled drinks completely.
That's not why they make you take the top off.
It is because if you leave a bottle with top on on the floor, if there's an emergency, they're a trip hazard.
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Konsa took the lid off one of the bottles, and had a swig. Not sure that was the greatest of ideas tbh.
I remember Dennis Lillee doing that at Edgbaston. Earlier he feigned to bowl a can back into the stand and everybody dived for cover.
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Absolutely disgusting behaviour by some Everton fans.
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Still trying to get my head around the commentators suggesting it was all the fault of our players for daring to celebrate.
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Still trying to get my head around the commentators suggesting it was all the fault of our players for daring to celebrate.
Of course it was. We were the big bads who spoiled the party and Big Duncs return. I'm sure the press hadn't been bigging up Gerards first return to Everton as a manager, Digne's return and how Dunc would be instilling fight and erm bottle into the team and get them on winning ways.
It is the same reason when our fans invade the pitch after a big win, it is the return of the darkest times. If other fans do it, it is the magic of the cup.
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Nd because of these utter twats, everyone else continue to have drinks without lids.
At this rate I can see them banning bottled drinks completely.
That's not why they make you take the top off.
It is because if you leave a bottle with top on on the floor, if there's an emergency, they're a trip hazard.
Is that right ? Sure I’d been told before that it was so it couldn’t be used as a weapon ie: throwing a bottle with no lid would likely lose the contents and therefore the weight. Whichever way, I can see this being the end of bottles being handed out and contents going into plastic glasses.
And how long before this gets linked to the return of standing…..
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It wouldn't have been so bad but one of the bottles landed right on top of Cashy's bare scalp.
Yeah, the poor chap is going bald but there was no need to highlight it.
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Nd because of these utter twats, everyone else continue to have drinks without lids.
At this rate I can see them banning bottled drinks completely.
That's not why they make you take the top off.
It is because if you leave a bottle with top on on the floor, if there's an emergency, they're a trip hazard.
Is that right ? Sure I’d been told before that it was so it couldn’t be used as a weapon ie: throwing a bottle with no lid would likely lose the contents and therefore the weight. Whichever way, I can see this being the end of bottles being handed out and contents going into plastic glasses.
And how long before this gets linked to the return of standing…..
Yep, it's definitely right. The whole missile thing doesn't help but it's not the main consideration. I can definitely see a bottleless future. Just whack pints in Caprisun pouches.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
Really daft move. Hopefully he’s realised that now.
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There's been increasing disorder at games over the last period with more arrests than previous years even accounting for Covid.
I get as pent up and vocal as anyone during games but the idea of throwing something if the opposition celebrate in front of me is completely absurd. Or of wanting a scrap before or after a game.
Hopefully this is a blip.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit. Grown men throwing coins at people, what an embarrassment.
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That Lucozade bottle probably cost about £5 aswell, flash bastards.
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Still trying to get my head around the commentators suggesting it was all the fault of our players for daring to celebrate.
Of course it was. We were the big bads who spoiled the party and Big Duncs return. I'm sure the press hadn't been bigging up Gerards first return to Everton as a manager, Digne's return and how Dunc would be instilling fight and erm bottle into the team and get them on winning ways.
It is the same reason when our fans invade the pitch after a big win, it is the return of the darkest times. If other fans do it, it is the magic of the cup.
Victim-blaming, pure and simple. Where exactly in an away game are the players supposed to celebrate?
Should the Premier League mandate a solemn handshake in the centre circle, while VAR checks for a reason to disallow the goal. Then two minutes later, the players can nod at each other like vague acquaintances might do in a Yorkshire pub, a quick slap on the back and back to work chaps.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
I'd rather drink a Scouser's piss than Lucozade.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
I'd rather drink a Scouser's piss than Lucozade.
I'd say there's a reasonable chance he did.
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It looked like the bottle Konsa opened was sealed when he picked it up.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit. Grown men throwing coins at people, what an embarrassment.
maybe that sums up a rather entitled major of the British population by the looks of things.
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There is a very substantial cult in India who believe the drinking of urine to be physically and morally efficacious. An Indian Prime Minister was one such IIRC. Probably better for you than Lucozade. And cheaper.
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There is a very substantial cult in India who believe the drinking of urine to be physically and morally efficacious.
There are some questionable porn sites that believe the same.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit. Grown men throwing coins at people, what an embarrassment.
maybe that sums up a rather entitled major of the British population by the looks of things.
I liked calling Deeney a wanker at VP, then found it fairly amusing when he gave a bit back after scoring, then even more amusing chanting "Deeney, what's the score" at the end. Then at full time he acknowledged us (I think), we all had a little chuckle and went to the pub for a pint.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
It was probably a defiant “am I bovvered” gesture, but very stupid.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
It was probably a defiant “am I bovvered” gesture, but very stupid.
That’s it, he was trying to brush it off with some humour but obviously his brain didn’t act quick enough to it maybe being piss, Covid germs or just rancid lucozade.
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Remember when someone chucked a coin at Carragher at Highbury and he chucked it back. Didn’t Gaza once eat a Mars Bar that was thrown at him?
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Football Manager fans may remember Kennedy Bakircioglu catching and downing a beer thrown from the stands.
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Commentators say nothing when big name players cup their ears or put the finger on the lips in front of home ends. Jon Champion's comments about our players celebrating a goal in front of the Everton fans was classic Sky claptrap. If it had happened at Villa Park last week to one of their precious Manure players, they'd still be talking about it now.
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Remember when someone chucked a coin at Carragher at Highbury and he chucked it back. Didn’t Gaza once eat a Mars Bar that was thrown at him?
Mark Crossley picked up a Mars Bar at Forest in front of us and eat it.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
Really daft move. Hopefully he’s realised that now.
Did he actually take a swig, or did he just pretend?
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
I'd rather drink a Scouser's piss than Lucozade.
I'd say there's a reasonable chance he did.
I was hinting at that in the post. The point about it being sealed is a fair one, but even then I doubt I'd drink from it after it has been held by a pissy-fingered unwashed Everton fan.*
* No offence to Everton fans intended; the bottle-thrower may well have washed his hands regularly after having a piss and scratching his arse etc.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
Did they identify the cabbage thrower ?
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Nd because of these utter twats, everyone else continue to have drinks without lids.
At this rate I can see them banning bottled drinks completely.
That's not why they make you take the top off.
It is because if you leave a bottle with top on on the floor, if there's an emergency, they're a trip hazard.
Is that right ? Sure I’d been told before that it was so it couldn’t be used as a weapon ie: throwing a bottle with no lid would likely lose the contents and therefore the weight. Whichever way, I can see this being the end of bottles being handed out and contents going into plastic glasses.
And how long before this gets linked to the return of standing…..
Yep, it's definitely right. The whole missile thing doesn't help but it's not the main consideration. I can definitely see a bottleless future. Just whack pints in Caprisun pouches.
My preferred option is to take an orange into the ground with vodka injected into it.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
Did they identify the cabbage thrower ?
I'm the cabbage thrower and so's my wife
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Jon Campion is the only one I've heard that criticised the Villa players and he is an idiot, otherwise BT commentators and pundits, Match of the Day, the papers all condemned the action of the Everton fans.
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As Risso says, why on earth would you drink from that bottle? Daft move.
You’ll never get away with chucking anything onto the field, you’ll either get dobbed in or the CCTV will get you.
Did they identify the cabbage thrower ?
What was never established was if Bruce kept it.
It is, after all, a key ingredient of a full Donner Kebab.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
In what other job should people be expected to accept constant abuse without telling them to shush? People pay nurses wages, you get in a taxi and pay his wages in a way.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
In fact we should just remove the human interaction element completely and just play FIFA......
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Remember when someone chucked a coin at Carragher at Highbury and he chucked it back. Didn’t Gaza once eat a Mars Bar that was thrown at him?
Mark Crossley picked up a Mars Bar at Forest in front of us and eat it.
He'd probably brought it with him, the lardy git.
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Football Manager fans may remember Kennedy Bakircioglu catching and downing a beer thrown from the stands.
Never gets old (and a nice goal too):
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Quite honestly I'm just surprised Klopp hasn't claimed it hit one of his players.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
In what other job should people be expected to accept constant abuse without telling them to shush? People pay nurses wages, you get in a taxi and pay his wages in a way.
Not the same thing. Poor analogy.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
A full bottle of pop with the lid on hurled from the stands would bloody hurt if it whacked you on the head so he had every right to go down. It's way worse than "not good" it's a very worrying trend that has crept into the game again recently. It needs to be taken seriously and the guilty ones given a lengthy ban. It is also a criminal offence for which he should be arrested. If someone threw a bottle at your head in the street you'd want them dealt with by the law surely?
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
In what other job should people be expected to accept constant abuse without telling them to shush? People pay nurses wages, you get in a taxi and pay his wages in a way.
Not the same thing. Poor analogy.
So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
A full bottle of pop with the lid on hurled from the stands would bloody hurt if it whacked you on the head so he had every right to go down. It's way worse than "not good" it's a very worrying trend that has crept into the game again recently. It needs to be taken seriously and the guilty ones given a lengthy ban. It is also a criminal offence for which he should be arrested. If someone threw a bottle at your head in the street you'd want them dealt with by the law surely?
Nah, he'd just get up and walk on. Just one of those things isn't it?
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
In what other job should people be expected to accept constant abuse without telling them to shush? People pay nurses wages, you get in a taxi and pay his wages in a way.
Not the same thing. Poor analogy.
So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
They were just celebrating a goal at the end it went in. There was no goading of their fans. That rat face Jamie Vardy scored in front of the Holte and gave us the full cupped ear celebration but no-one threw anything at him and nor should they.He got a lot of verbal abuse which was justified though.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
I think that’s a bit precious too be honest. I’ve got no problem with players giving a bit back to fans, especially given the level of abuse they’re subject to. If fans can’t handle getting it back they shouldn’t dish it out in the first place.
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Give and take.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
In what other job should people be expected to accept constant abuse without telling them to shush? People pay nurses wages, you get in a taxi and pay his wages in a way.
Not the same thing. Poor analogy.
So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
They were just celebrating a goal at the end it went in. There was no goading of their fans. That rat face Jamie Vardy scored in front of the Holte and gave us the full cupped ear celebration but no-one threw anything at him and nor should they.He got a lot of verbal abuse which was justified though.
Cash was looking at them pumping his arms, but it's totally fine! I've got no problem with Vardy doing that either, you call him a wanker all game, he cups his ear and laughs, then you call him a wanker even louder. If people can't take it without throwing things they really need to have a look at themselves.
If people think players shouldn't be allowed to go near or look at opposition fans whilst celebrating then they need to get out more.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
I got hit by an flying bottle at V festival a few years ago. Caught me on the side of the head & believe me I almost felt like I HAD been shot! It really hurt and & stunned me & for a few minutes I really didn’t think I was OK.
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If you can't take it you shouldn't give it out.
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So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
I don't think I said that in my original reply. You need to read that. I said PLAYERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO HAVE A GO AT FANS. And my comment was general not about yesterday.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
Really? I’d say it’s a awful thing to do at a football match and they should be banned for life. Why would they be play acting? What would the point of that be.
As for celebrating near their crowd, I don’t think that was the original intention and the players shouldn’t be blamed. They are caught in the moment. If people can’t handle it and have to resort to throwing bottles or whatever at them they really shouldn’t be allowed to be there.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
Really? I’d say it’s a awful thing to do at a football match and they should be banned for life. Why would they be play acting? What would the point of that be.
As for celebrating near their crowd, I don’t think that was the original intention and the players shouldn’t be blamed. They are caught in the moment. If people can’t handle it and have to resort to throwing bottles or whatever at them they really shouldn’t be allowed to be there.
Agreed. And it's why things like having the refs giving their VAR decisions audibly to football fans like they do in rugby will almost certainly never happen. Even if they're only a small proportion there are still too many arseholes at football matches.
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit. Grown men throwing coins at people, what an embarrassment.
maybe that sums up a rather entitled major of the British population by the looks of things.
I liked calling Deeney a wanker at VP, then found it fairly amusing when he gave a bit back after scoring, then even more amusing chanting "Deeney, what's the score" at the end. Then at full time he acknowledged us (I think), we all had a little chuckle and went to the pub for a pint.
Aye, it's pantomime more than anything else.
With Deeney's dubious choice of team to support, I get why he does it. Less so why that Brentford bellend earlier in the season needed to make the zulu sign at the Holte.
Deeney seemed to have more concern for us going down in 2016 and the impact it would have on non matchday staff than our own players did. So he went up in my estimation after that.
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
I'd like to think I would.
Although at Anfield this season some sort of drink was thrown at their fans after they scored. Open bottle because there was a bit of liquid when it landed. Didn't hit anyone so no harm done. Didn't see who did it but if it was the person next to me what would I have done? Honestly I think I probably would have muttered under my breath and ignored it.
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit.
I am sorry but players have NO right to have a go at fans. Fans in the ground pay their money, players are there to perform. However there is no way fans should be throwing stuff to harm players.
I think that’s a bit precious too be honest. I’ve got no problem with players giving a bit back to fans, especially given the level of abuse they’re subject to. If fans can’t handle getting it back they shouldn’t dish it out in the first place.
Very precious. I would absolutely rejoice in giving it back to fans who had hammered me all game. Might pull out a 'Your mom' joke.
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
If I was asked, or there was an appeal for witnesses, absolutely. I doubt I'd go out of my way to report it at the game, though.
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So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
I don't think I said that in my original reply. You need to read that. I said PLAYERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO HAVE A GO AT FANS. And my comment was general not about yesterday.
Yeah I read it mate. Depends what you mean by "HAVE A GO"? If you mean cupping ears, fist pump, shushing etc then my point remains the same.
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
If I was asked, or there was an appeal for witnesses, absolutely. I doubt I'd go out of my way to report it at the game, though.
I would. It's fucking disgraceful and assault on an innocent person going about their job.
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
If I was asked, or there was an appeal for witnesses, absolutely. I doubt I'd go out of my way to report it at the game, though.
I would. It's fucking disgraceful and assault on an innocent person going about their job.
I quite agree, just being realistic about how I imagine I'd respond.
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So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
I don't think I said that in my original reply. You need to read that. I said PLAYERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO HAVE A GO AT FANS. And my comment was general not about yesterday.
Yeah I read it mate. Depends what you mean by "HAVE A GO"? If you mean cupping ears, fist pump, shushing etc then my point remains the same.
I think that's fine. It's the stuff from there onwards to where it ended up with Cantona that's not right. :)
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Fans spend 90 minutes calling players wankers and the second a player gives them a little wink or a smirk they lose their shit. Grown men throwing coins at people, what an embarrassment.
maybe that sums up a rather entitled major of the British population by the looks of things.
I liked calling Deeney a wanker at VP, then found it fairly amusing when he gave a bit back after scoring, then even more amusing chanting "Deeney, what's the score" at the end. Then at full time he acknowledged us (I think), we all had a little chuckle and went to the pub for a pint.
This.
I too gave Deeney some in that 2-1 game a couple of Januarys ago, and i thought to myself, fair play to him when he gave it back after scoring, it was quite funny the way he did it. My ambivalence was obviously helped by us scoring a last minute winner.
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So because fans contribute a small percentage of their own teams wages, opposition players can't cheer or celebrate in their general direction? What a load of nonsense.
I don't think I said that in my original reply. You need to read that. I said PLAYERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO HAVE A GO AT FANS. And my comment was general not about yesterday.
Yeah I read it mate. Depends what you mean by "HAVE A GO"? If you mean cupping ears, fist pump, shushing etc then my point remains the same.
I think that's fine. It's the stuff from there onwards to where it ended up with Cantona that's not right. :)
Fair enough. Bit of a leap to go from discussing Cash fist pumping to someone hypothetically launching themselves into the crowd though.
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
Definitely
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Straw poll - if it happened near you would you tell the police who did it?
Absolutely.
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I didn’t like stuff thrown at the players, but i also didn’t like our player lying down on the pitch like he’d been shot. Also lets not act all holier than thou because I’ve seen our fans throw stuff onto pitches as well. It’s just things that happen in the heat of the moment really. Not good but not the end of the world either.
A full bottle of pop with the lid on hurled from the stands would bloody hurt if it whacked you on the head so he had every right to go down. It's way worse than "not good" it's a very worrying trend that has crept into the game again recently. It needs to be taken seriously and the guilty ones given a lengthy ban. It is also a criminal offence for which he should be arrested. If someone threw a bottle at your head in the street you'd want them dealt with by the law surely?
Nah, he'd just get up and walk on. Just one of those things isn't it?
Your comment really made me chuckle. Or lol as the kids say.
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They would have brought the bottle in with him as, if they got it in the ground, the top would have been removed. Probably for this very reason?
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Micky Quinn famously had a pie threw at him during a corner which he caught and took a bite out of
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Still trying to get my head around the commentators suggesting it was all the fault of our players for daring to celebrate.
Of course it was. We were the big bads who spoiled the party and Big Duncs return. I'm sure the press hadn't been bigging up Gerards first return to Everton as a manager, Digne's return and how Dunc would be instilling fight and erm bottle into the team and get them on winning ways.
It is the same reason when our fans invade the pitch after a big win, it is the return of the darkest times. If other fans do it, it is the magic of the cup.
Victim-blaming, pure and simple. Where exactly in an away game are the players supposed to celebrate?
Should the Premier League mandate a solemn handshake in the centre circle, while VAR checks for a reason to disallow the goal. Then two minutes later, the players can nod at each other like vague acquaintances might do in a Yorkshire pub, a quick slap on the back and back to work chaps.
And if players run any distance to celebrate with their travelling fans, the jobsworths in black can't wait to book them for over celebrating!