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Title: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 18, 2022, 09:47:20 PM
Time to post it I think 8)

Saturday 22nd January, kick off 12:30.

A bit disappointed that they sacked Benitez before this as they might be decent now, still backing us for a win though.

3-1 Villa, FTF.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 18, 2022, 10:06:00 PM
Everton have appointed Duncan Ferguson caretaker manager.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on January 18, 2022, 10:13:10 PM
Cursing our luck manager wise but we need to put that to one side. I would've backed us for the win but I think the situation will draw more from the Everton players and make it more difficult so despite my opening thought I see a draw and another...


2-2
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 18, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
Duncan Disorderly.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 18, 2022, 10:16:28 PM
It's got to be a Villa win!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on January 18, 2022, 10:17:01 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 18, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
2-0 to us with a Suarez double assisted by Coutinho to increase the unhappiness in the blue half of Merseyside. 8)
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2022, 01:44:45 AM
Could do with taking El Ghazi back for this one. He likes getting stuck into the Toffees.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 19, 2022, 04:52:02 AM
Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison and Demarai Gray are their main threat. Not a lot else though really.

Should be looking to win this one. Think if we can keep them quiet for the first 20-30 minutes, we'll win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 19, 2022, 05:30:06 AM
Duncan Ferguson brings literally nothing that they haven’t tried before. If anything he will try to park the bus, try and stop their rot and opt hit us on the break. They have no momentum, we have a lot by the way we ended the last game. We will revert to a 4-5-1 with SJM coming in for Watkins or Ings. Once we score they’re fucked. That fan base will turn on their side quickly if things start poorly. We have to start fast, push them back and they’ll break. I’m going for 3-0 and more misery for Everton fans
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: bilsim on January 19, 2022, 08:27:56 AM
We should be winning this and comfortably so. Even with the supposed "new manager bounce" we're better than them all over the pitch and an early goal will turn the crowd toxic. 4-0.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 19, 2022, 08:53:06 AM
I think we'll go behind. Then score a couple, then Duncan Ferguson will bring himself on to save the day, and get sent off for use of the elbow. 1-3.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on January 19, 2022, 10:12:04 AM
Judging by the comments and polling there's a lot of optimism about this one.

Totally understand why but think Ferguson will give them a boost. Calvert-Lewin is due a goal too...

1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 19, 2022, 10:14:37 AM
2-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 19, 2022, 11:16:27 AM
I think we'll either slip to a lethargic, Brentford like defeat or absolutely wipe the floor with them, nothing in between.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 19, 2022, 11:23:02 AM
Dunc will have them tub-thumping, that's for sure.  Reckon it will be a tougher game than if Rafa had still been in charge.  Still think we'll have too much for them though.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 19, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
Dunc will have them tub-thumping, that's for sure.  Reckon it will be a tougher game than if Rafa had still been in charge.  Still think we'll have too much for them though.
Hope so. Will keep them in trouble and help Deano out too. 3-2: Ramsey with the winner.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 19, 2022, 11:26:50 AM
With Coutinho to come off the bench, I think we'll have enough to edge this one 1-0.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2022, 11:56:02 AM
Is Digne out due to a "gentlemens' agreement"? Ironic that his booking against Yanited should have seen him suspended for this but as he has changed clubs he's reprieved.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DrGonzo on January 19, 2022, 12:01:03 PM
There wasn't much gentlemanly about Digne's departure.  Big Dunc "New Manager Bouncebackability" aside we are looking a decent team moving in the right direction, them a decent team in decline.  Hopefully a week wasn't enough to right all the wrongs fo Rafa's reign of terror and we can get an early lead to burst any bubbles that might be forming.  3-1 to The Villa.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: mrfuse on January 19, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
I reckon we have the record for facing Clubs that have just got either a new Manager or Interim Manager.

Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2022, 12:39:34 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Richard E on January 19, 2022, 01:08:50 PM
Is Digne out due to a "gentlemens' agreement"?

I don't think those are allowed.   
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 19, 2022, 01:23:52 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

My last visit was a few years ago now, and it was an absolute dump in the away end. If you think the service at Villa Park is bad.. It's a whole new world of rubbish.

Having said that I have very find memories of Sir Graham's last game, relentless chanting, oh what an atmosphere that was.

Anyway, please let's just win. Digne and Coutinho goals would be nice.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 19, 2022, 01:34:03 PM
It's not a great away end and if you get the back few rows, it's atrocious. But, I'll still miss Goodison Park.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 19, 2022, 01:53:29 PM
I've only ever been in the lower tier since the away fans were moved, the cup 1/4 final in 2000 we were right at the back and the view was awful.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 19, 2022, 01:56:57 PM
It's a great old ground but it's showing its age now.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 19, 2022, 02:39:41 PM
Was with my Dad in the end behind the goal when Tony Morley scored the goal of the season - coppers in them days were right nasty bastards with big sticks and never afraid to use them
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2022, 02:45:42 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

It's a dump. A pain in the arse to get to, very difficult to park, and a really shit stand once you're in.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on January 19, 2022, 02:54:45 PM
 Only been there once for a 2-2 draw. Carew with a late equaliser.

Great ground. Old? Yes. Faded? Yes.

Even so I'd take one Goodison for a dozen identikit, soulless modern stadia any day.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 19, 2022, 02:54:55 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

It's a dump. A pain in the arse to get to, very difficult to park, and a really shit stand once you're in.

I’d concur with this, been there a few times and have never really enjoyed the experience. It’s not as bad as Fratton Park but still down there as a shite away end.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 19, 2022, 02:56:07 PM
It's light years behind Villa Park.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2022, 02:59:21 PM
I'll go see them in the home end playing someone else then. Think they still have a couple of years left there.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 19, 2022, 04:11:32 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

It's a dump. A pain in the arse to get to, very difficult to park, and a really shit stand once you're in.

I’d concur with this, been there a few times and have never really enjoyed the experience. It’s not as bad as Fratton Park but still down there as a shite away end.

I always liked going there. Yeah, the stand is not great but I wouldn't call it a pain to get to.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 19, 2022, 04:19:49 PM
Has there been any news about Konsa?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2022, 04:26:49 PM
His views on Goodison are unknown.

But seriously, yeah, hopefully it was just a dead leg and he'll be fit for Everton.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 19, 2022, 04:36:35 PM
Good news.  Thought it was his ribs the way he went down, so woud be great if hes fit.

As for Goodison, I like it.  Everton are probably my favourite club behind Villa in the PL.  I always  feel we have quite a lot in common, historic big clubs, traditional ground, decent fans etc.  Obviously I hope we pump them on Saturday but if I could pick a club to join us in the top 4 whilst ousting Man Utd etc, it would be them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Moonraker on January 19, 2022, 04:41:51 PM
Agree with that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 19, 2022, 06:19:37 PM
Good news.  Thought it was his ribs the way he went down, so woud be great if hes fit.

As for Goodison, I like it.  Everton are probably my favourite club behind Villa in the PL.  I always  feel we have quite a lot in common, historic big clubs, traditional ground, decent fans etc.  Obviously I hope we pump them on Saturday but if I could pick a club to join us in the top 4 whilst ousting Man Utd etc, it would be them.

Konsa was definitely holding side when he went back down the tunnel after trying to run before the second half started.  Seemed more the hip area though.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 19, 2022, 08:54:21 PM
Has there been any news about Konsa?

50/50 for Sat. apparently so doesn't sound too serious.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 19, 2022, 09:10:49 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

It's a dump. A pain in the arse to get to, very difficult to park, and a really shit stand once you're in.

I’d concur with this, been there a few times and have never really enjoyed the experience. It’s not as bad as Fratton Park but still down there as a shite away end.

I always liked going there. Yeah, the stand is not great but I wouldn't call it a pain to get to.

Neither would I. Liverpool is a great city and Goodison is only a quick taxi ride or bus ride away from the centre. Admittedly it is trickier getting away and I have walked back in more than once, which is a long trek but manageable. In terms if the state of the ground, within reason I judge it by the games I've seen and I've seen some belters there
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 19, 2022, 09:26:23 PM
I went once and Phil Neville scored. Ugh
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on January 19, 2022, 09:51:54 PM
Any news on Ezri’s fitness ?

Hopefully no Ings in the starting lineup

Emi1

Cash
Konsa/Hause
Mings
Digne

Doug
SJM
JJ

Emi2
Carney
Ollie


Phil to come off the bench
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 19, 2022, 10:31:04 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

It's a dump. A pain in the arse to get to, very difficult to park, and a really shit stand once you're in.

I’d concur with this, been there a few times and have never really enjoyed the experience. It’s not as bad as Fratton Park but still down there as a shite away end.

I always liked going there. Yeah, the stand is not great but I wouldn't call it a pain to get to.

Neither would I. Liverpool is a great city and Goodison is only a quick taxi ride or bus ride away from the centre. Admittedly it is trickier getting away and I have walked back in more than once, which is a long trek but manageable. In terms if the state of the ground, within reason I judge it by the games I've seen and I've seen some belters there
No it's not particularly difficult to get to at all. Parking is no worse than away fans trying to park for Villa Park either. I parked quite easily for Liverpool recently.

I remember going when we won the league and sitting in the main stand. They had an escalator and it seemed high tech back then, but admittedly it's faded now, but certainly not soulless.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2022, 11:48:58 PM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne

Luiz
Ramsey
McGinn

Buendia
Countinho

Watkins

Feel our mobility in midfield will be key here, especially if they go with 2 up top.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 20, 2022, 12:57:54 AM
I don't think Countinho will start.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 20, 2022, 06:42:19 AM
Big Duncan will have these fired up for this one - 1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 20, 2022, 07:05:34 AM
Ferguson has been part of their first team coaching staff for 8 years. There was nothing stopping him getting them fired up before now. We'll win, pretty comfortably too. They'll have a fair bit of the ball without really threatening, one or two of ours might feel they've things to make up for, and someone will put on their scoring boots for a change.

2-0 the Villa, Ramsey with one of them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: charleeco7 on January 20, 2022, 09:15:47 AM
Taking my nine year old lad to his first away game for this one. Any recommendations for parking?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2022, 09:18:41 AM
It's been years since I went but we used to park over by Anfield and go to an ace Chinese owned chip shop that used to put the most sensational gravy on pie and chips.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2022, 09:29:20 AM
Has there been any news about Konsa?

50/50 for Sat. apparently so doesn't sound too serious.
by Villa standards 50/50 usually means a 6 week lay-off
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2022, 09:56:01 AM
Calvert Lewin will inevitably score now that he's getting up to speed. I think from being a no-draw team, we'll do back to back stalemates.

Are they letting Sigurdsson's contract just run out, by the way?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 20, 2022, 11:15:21 AM
Calvert Lewin will inevitably score now that he's getting up to speed. I think from being a no-draw team, we'll do back to back stalemates.

Are they letting Sigurdsson's contract just run out, by the way?

Looks like it. Safer that way
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Des Little on January 20, 2022, 12:58:19 PM
Absolute nailed on away win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 20, 2022, 01:57:20 PM
I really don't like it when the over confidence is exhibited on the pre match thread.
I met an Evertonian earlier, he said they will be right up for it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2022, 04:03:16 PM
Cos of Big Dunc or cos they hate us ?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 20, 2022, 04:17:18 PM
Cos of Big Dunc or cos they hate us ?

I imagine because they've dumped a manager they all hated, and have a playing legend in temporary charge.  They might not get a tactical/managerial boost, but I imagine the fans will be right up for it.  I expect it to be loud.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2022, 04:19:07 PM
Duncan Ferguson brings passion. Passion alone won't win games unless we let it happen. And change of manager isn't any guarantee. See file named Kmac. I'm not dismissing there could be a reaction but it's still the same players and they suddenly have to be lot better than they have recently. We still have to perform ourselves but we have better players and more confidence after our last game. Do our thing and we will win. That's not overconfidence.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 20, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
We really could do with winning this.  All the exciting stuff happening could do with being backed up on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 20, 2022, 05:00:45 PM
Everton fan I  know (Lad that works for me that is a season ticket holder there) thinks they would have been nailed on to loose but is hopeful they will scrape a point now.

I reckon we will win comfortably.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on January 20, 2022, 05:03:23 PM
Taking my nine year old lad to his first away game for this one. Any recommendations for parking?

I always parked at Walton Hall Park sports centre and then walked
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DrGonzo on January 20, 2022, 06:44:26 PM
How many more trips have we got left to Goodison before they move to the Docks?

I've never been up there, I'd like to see a game in the famous old ground before it's knocked down. Might be better off going to a non-Villa Everton game though if the away end isn't up to much. Plus they're always whiney when we play them so I doubt I'd enjoy it too much.

My only visit was "The Night of Young and Laursen's Celebration".  I will never set foot in the place again.  Especially as I was in with the Toffee fans.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 20, 2022, 08:30:07 PM
I think this will be tough. They’ve got players coming back and the fans will be right behind them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 20, 2022, 08:44:42 PM
Anybody else not hsd their tickets yet?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 20, 2022, 08:58:35 PM
I think this will be tough. They’ve got players coming back and the fans will be right behind them.

Agreed, Paul. There are no easy games in the PL. Let's hope we're fully prepared and start on the front foot.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 21, 2022, 06:52:18 AM
Anybody else not hsd their tickets yet?

Going with two mates and their two lads and as of last night two tickets out of 5 have arrived!
If the tickets arrive, first time at Goodison since going twice in 99-2000, a 0-0 in the league in November (Carbone hitting the post) and 2-1 FA Cup quarter final win in the February.
With Ferguson coming in to rally the troops the first 20 mins is huge, keep the ball, shut the crowd up, get an early goal and we’ll win this.
3-1 (Watkins, Coutinho, Beundia).
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 21, 2022, 07:11:13 AM
What a ridiculous time for k.o.! In my house, Saturday morning is for kids' sports, so I'll have spend the day avoiding the result until MOTD.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Scratchins on January 21, 2022, 08:32:44 AM
Anybody else not hsd their tickets yet?

Going with two mates and their two lads and as of last night two tickets out of 5 have arrived!
If the tickets arrive, first time at Goodison since going twice in 99-2000, a 0-0 in the league in November (Carbone hitting the post) and 2-1 FA Cup quarter final win in the February.
With Ferguson coming in to rally the troops the first 20 mins is huge, keep the ball, shut the crowd up, get an early goal and we’ll win this.
3-1 (Watkins, Coutinho, Beundia).

1 of our tickets didn't arrive for Norwich but Villa contacted them and it was easy to pick up a duplicate at the ground. I suggest contacting the ticket office if they don't arrive.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 21, 2022, 10:03:36 AM
Anybody else not hsd their tickets yet?

At the moment no, waiting for post then I will have to contact ticket office
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 21, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Anybody else not hsd their tickets yet?

Going with two mates and their two lads and as of last night two tickets out of 5 have arrived!
If the tickets arrive, first time at Goodison since going twice in 99-2000, a 0-0 in the league in November (Carbone hitting the post) and 2-1 FA Cup quarter final win in the February.
With Ferguson coming in to rally the troops the first 20 mins is huge, keep the ball, shut the crowd up, get an early goal and we’ll win this.
3-1 (Watkins, Coutinho, Beundia).

1 of our tickets didn't arrive for Norwich but Villa contacted them and it was easy to pick up a duplicate at the ground. I suggest contacting the ticket office if they don't arrive.

Cheers, will do
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 21, 2022, 11:16:47 AM
With all the feel good factor around the club at the moment we need to match this on the pitch and this is a game we should be winning if we are to show improvements.

Another draw or defeat and the gap above us in the league is becoming just too big to catch up so the season could peter out quite easily.
Wolves are 8 points ahead in 8th with same games played - Leicester ahead in 10th by 2 points but they have a game in hand on us. Although we are 10 points above bottom 3 we only want to be looking up

We really need to win
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: colin69 on January 21, 2022, 11:50:29 AM
Fancy us to win a hard fought game 2-1.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: enigma on January 21, 2022, 04:52:49 PM
People are underestimating Ferguson. He did well last time he was in charge. Set them up differently and showed he's more than a chest beating 'pashun' merchant.

That said, I'm going for a close 0-1 win to us. Mings header.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 21, 2022, 07:22:32 PM
People are underestimating Ferguson. He did well last time he was in charge. Set them up differently and showed he's more than a chest beating 'pashun' merchant.

That said, I'm going for a close 0-1 win to us. Mings header.

Agree with those sentiments but possibly a 2-1 to us.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: john2710 on January 21, 2022, 07:26:09 PM
We're going to need to start well, as they'll be pumped up. The crowd will be as biased & as sensitive as ever. A good start is key, lets not give them any encouragement. An early goal will deflate them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 21, 2022, 07:33:33 PM
People are underestimating Ferguson. He did well last time he was in charge. Set them up differently and showed he's more than a chest beating 'pashun' merchant.

That said, I'm going for a close 0-1 win to us. Mings header.

Agree with this, need to start really well and take the game from them, over 90 mins a Villa win
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2022, 07:41:08 PM
Seems like they're going 442 with Richarlison floating in the pocket.

Weather the blood and thunder for 10-15 minutes, get a grip of the ball and we should dominate possession and slowly strangle the game.

Very winnable. Just need to be up for the commitment and hard work off the ball. The lads playing rugby at BMH suggests we know what we're up for.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TonyD on January 21, 2022, 07:55:28 PM
The key to this is playing well for both halves. 
We generally have one good half and one bad half.   
Two good halves and we will batter them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 21, 2022, 07:58:24 PM
we'll win this. If Everton think Rafa going and Big Dunc shouting and balling his way to three points is going to work - nah, we need to frustrate the crowd, see off the first 20 mins then keep the ball tidy and take our chances. Easy.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 21, 2022, 08:23:20 PM
Just need to kill the early passion and then we should be ok.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 21, 2022, 10:12:02 PM
Early goal and then frustrate them. Easy win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 21, 2022, 10:13:14 PM
3-1 Villa

I wonder if Coutinho will start
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 21, 2022, 10:37:19 PM
Ings needs to be benched tomorrow. There are certainly options if Coutinho is a non-starter.
Carney alongside Buendia behind Ollie
Or
Ramsey alongside Buendia behind Ollie with Sanson covering for Ramsey in midfield.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 22, 2022, 02:07:26 AM
What sort of reaction will they give Digne ?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on January 22, 2022, 04:01:17 AM
I really don't like it when the over confidence is exhibited on the pre match thread.
I met an Evertonian earlier, he said they will be right up for it.

Agree, it never seems to end well. Both players and crowd will be fired up and sometimes that is enough.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 22, 2022, 04:09:09 AM
4-2 to them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: jwarry on January 22, 2022, 04:40:14 AM
A routine win please
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on January 22, 2022, 06:18:14 AM
5 Bournemouth Lions heading North. Left house at 5.30, waiting for lift. Bloody Sky..
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 22, 2022, 07:36:44 AM
5 Bournemouth Lions heading North. Left house at 5.30, waiting for lift. Bloody Sky..

Good work, have a safe trip
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 22, 2022, 07:37:30 AM
5 Bournemouth Lions heading North. Left house at 5.30, waiting for lift. Bloody Sky..
Good fffort lads. Have a great day and lets hope they do the business for travelling villans.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 22, 2022, 08:32:01 AM
I really don't like it when the over confidence is exhibited on the pre match thread.
I met an Evertonian earlier, he said they will be right up for it.

Agree, it never seems to end well. Both players and crowd will be fired up and sometimes that is enough.

Not sure theres been that much over confidence, lots think we should win but not in a cock sure way. Ferguson will have them right up for it and Mings and Hause/Konsa are in for a game, but if we play our game from the off, ala Man Utd 2nd half or most of the game at old trafford, then we hopefully should be too good for them. Huge having McGinn back today, perfect man for the scrap Ferguson will try and make it. Hopefully Coutinhio is fit to start. Setting off in 5, cmon the lass!!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on January 22, 2022, 08:37:37 AM
Everton lost this exact fixture 2-1 in May last season - they've not lost back-to-back home league games against Aston Villa since March 1998.

Following their 3-0 win at Villa Park in September, Aston Villa are looking to secure their first league double over Everton since 2000-01.

Everton were joint-fifth in the clean sheet rankings in the Premier League last season, recording 12 shutouts overall. This season, only Newcastle and Watford have kept fewer clean sheets than the Toffees (3).

Everton have taken just five points in their last 12 Premier League matches (W1 D2 L9), the fewest they've won across a 12-game span since earning four points over 12 games between August and October 1994.

Aston Villa have conceded seven goals in their last three Premier League games (D1 L2), more than they had in their previous seven in the competition (6).

Everton have scored fewer first-half goals than any other Premier League side this season (5). The Toffees have failed to score before half-time in their last five games in the competition, last having a longer such run between December 2017 and January 2018 (6).

Everton have conceded the first goal in their last eight Premier League matches (W1 D1 L6), their longest run in Premier League history. Their previous longest was a seven game run between April and August 1997.

As a player, Aston Villa manager Steven Gerrard was on the winning side against Everton more often than he was against any other opponent in the Premier League (16) and lost just four of his 30 games against the Toffees. Only against Villa (12) did Gerrard score more Premier League goals than he did against Everton (9).

Jacob Ramsey had a hand in both of Aston Villa's goals against Manchester United last time out, scoring one and assisting Philippe Coutinho's equaliser. Ramsey had only been involved in two goals in his previous 39 Premier League appearances for the Villans (2 goals).

Philippe Coutinho scored in his first Premier League appearance for Aston Villa against Man Utd last time out, with only four players scoring in their first two games for the Villans in the competition: Dalian Atkinson (1992), Dion Dublin (1998), Ross Barkley (2020) and Danny Ings (2021).
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 22, 2022, 09:16:32 AM
I really don't like it when the over confidence is exhibited on the pre match thread.
I met an Evertonian earlier, he said they will be right up for it.

Agree, it never seems to end well. Both players and crowd will be fired up and sometimes that is enough.

Not sure theres been that much over confidence, lots think we should win but not in a cock sure way. Ferguson will have them right up for it and Mings and Hause/Konsa are in for a game, but if we play our game from the off, ala Man Utd 2nd half or most of the game at old trafford, then we hopefully should be too good for them. Huge having McGinn back today, perfect man for the scrap Ferguson will try and make it. Hopefully Coutinhio is fit to start. Setting off in 5, cmon the lass!!

there was a lot of confidence when we played Man United
We were the better side for 75% of the games we played but won none of them

We need to be on it from the beginning knowing that this will be a very difficult game against an Everton side who will be pumped
If we’re not we won’t win even though we are the better side



Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 22, 2022, 09:48:32 AM
I'm looking forward to a a win in glorious 4k UHD. FTF!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 22, 2022, 09:52:23 AM
Been told by my Everton mates how the atmosphere will be electric and how they'll be bouncing. Big Dunc is going to do this and that. They're running around in training, Digne is going to get smashed etc.

We have to meet their intensity and dominate that ball. Strangle their effort and let our quality in the midfield push tell.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 22, 2022, 10:12:40 AM
I have a genuine worry about this game. They have some good players, if they get a bounce from a change this’ll be really tough. We need to stop starting poorly.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 22, 2022, 10:20:30 AM
Being a glass half-empty type of bloke I can definitely see us getting the backlash today - why couldn't they have sacked him next week?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 22, 2022, 10:20:31 AM
Been told by my Everton mates how the atmosphere will be electric and how they'll be bouncing. Big Dunc is going to do this and that. They're running around in training, Digne is going to get smashed etc.

We have to meet their intensity and dominate that ball. Strangle their effort and let our quality in the midfield push tell.

Reading their forum they seem to think that having that psychopathic simpleton in charge is the panacea to all their faults, it makes you wonder a) why they didn't give him the job in the first place and b) what he's been doing in his job as assistant for the last few years.

I also read someone suggest "they have better players in every position", lol.

The atmosphere will be red-hot to begin with, lots of chants of 'Everton' in the absence of any other song and lots of screaming at the ref. A nice early goal for us and they'll turn quickly.

I'm going for 3-1 us.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on January 22, 2022, 10:30:56 AM
If they still had Rafa and we got an early goal then the crowd would turn, now they'll be bang up for it.

If we were playing them a week ago I'd be confident of a win, not so sure now, and a loss wouldn't be a huge shock.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 22, 2022, 11:06:14 AM
It's all about starting well today.  Do that and I think we could win, but I think a draw is the most likely result. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 22, 2022, 11:08:48 AM
Can see McGinn for Sanson being the only change today.  Don't think Coutinho will be ready to start just yet and with Bailey and Traore still unavailable, I'm expecting both Ings and Watkins to start again.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 22, 2022, 11:14:30 AM
If they still had Rafa and we got an early goal then the crowd would turn, now they'll be bang up for it.

If we were playing them a week ago I'd be confident of a win, not so sure now, and a loss wouldn't be a huge shock.

I agree, they’ve also got Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin back which improves them considerably. We can’t afford another slow start.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on January 22, 2022, 11:15:09 AM
Chuckie to replace Ings, for me.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 22, 2022, 11:22:17 AM
I really, really hope Gerrard doesn't start with Ings and Watkins. It doesn't work, and means we always get off to a slow start. Start Coutinho then bring him off after an hour if need be.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 22, 2022, 11:26:21 AM
Being a glass half-empty type of bloke I can definitely see us getting the backlash today - why couldn't they have sacked him next week?
 

blame  Dean Smith   


6 2 villa
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 22, 2022, 11:26:48 AM
A good start is essential, if we start like we did last Saturday, we could be a couple of goals down early on. Just going for a Villa win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 22, 2022, 11:32:41 AM
Konsa fit, McGinn back in, Coutinho starts, Ings on the bench.

Just about our strongest possible line up, c'mon!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 22, 2022, 11:55:15 AM
Hope you’re all enjoying the Duncan Ferguson show on BT

Don’t get me wrong I actually like the big man and if Everton were playing anyone else I would probably want them to win
But the whole thing makes it harder for Villa today the timing couldn’t be worse

As others have said we have to match them today in effort intensity attitude first because we know technically we are the better side
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