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Title: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 15, 2022, 07:29:57 PM
An absolutely shit first half and it looked all over at 2-0, but what a magical end. Brilliant response and comeback to get a draw. Stop with the two up front and we are so much better as a team. Thank fuck we have PC23.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 15, 2022, 07:31:50 PM
I’ve seen the future and it works.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd
Post by: Monty on January 15, 2022, 07:32:19 PM
The key players in the comeback? Ramsey, Chucky, Buendia, Coutinho. That's a lineup I like the fucking sound of.

Great resilience, great courage, great skill and persistence! Great stuff from Gerrard changing it up. The lucky bathtubs, the duckers, the suns of itches, we gave them a two-goal lead and still kept our heads to get the point that was the least we deserved.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 07:32:26 PM
Well played Steven Gerrard - made changes that improved us.

Feels like a win.

Chuffed for Ramsey too - if he was playing for Dortmund half the world would be talking about him
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: richtheholtender on January 15, 2022, 07:32:44 PM
Buendia is really coming along nicely now
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd
Post by: Axl Rose on January 15, 2022, 07:33:23 PM
Well done Villa.

I hope one day, Bruno Fernandes is eaten by a Great White Shark. A loathsome individual.

Buendia man of the match.

Watkins and Ings garbage. I wish we wouldn't fanny about with the ball at the back so often, also.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ian. on January 15, 2022, 07:33:27 PM
In Ramsey and Buendia we have two outstanding midfielders. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Keeno on January 15, 2022, 07:33:45 PM
A well deserved point. Please, please Stevie, never start Ings and Watkins together in a league game again. It has not worked all season.

Ramsey had a fantastic second half, but Buendia was consistently excellent again throughout the game. Him and Coutinho together are going to rip teams to shreds in a few weeks time…
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 15, 2022, 07:33:51 PM
Im so fucking confused, I feel chuffed with the result and pissed off with the result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on January 15, 2022, 07:33:56 PM
Good comeback. Shame we couldn't Macheda/van Titselrod/Hernandez them, but I'll take that 2-2 after the start we had and the poor first 40mins or so.

I think, maybe, possibly I can see why we went for Coutinho now. And Coutinho amd Ramsey make a good little partnership: the Axis of Fuck the Fuckers!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 15, 2022, 07:34:24 PM
Buendia is really coming along nicely now

Brilliant second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 15, 2022, 07:34:30 PM
Absolutely brilliant comeback Villa, I love you Phil.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: jimmygreen on January 15, 2022, 07:34:41 PM
5 mins in ‘Oh why do I effin bother?’
5 to go ‘Oh that’s why I bother.’
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: TheMalandro on January 15, 2022, 07:35:42 PM
So frustrating to gift them two goals.

Fernandes is a shit of footballer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on January 15, 2022, 07:35:43 PM
                Watkins

Coutinho - Ramsey - Buendia

This is the way.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Stu82 on January 15, 2022, 07:35:51 PM
Buendia's best game
He will be a star
Another 5 mins we win it
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 07:36:07 PM
Buendia is improving now he is fitter. Ramsey influences the game when he plays with more aggression.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: saint13 on January 15, 2022, 07:36:17 PM
Strange game really. Doesn't help when the goalie throws one in after 5 mins. It completely threw us for 30 mins when we were awful. Excellent thereafter with Sanson & Buendia having their best games in a Vila shirt. The front 2 are the big worry for me. Watkins was awful. Although very willing, his technical ability, (or lack of) is telling when it really matters.

I believe given time And Money Gerrard will get it right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on January 15, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
Buendia is really coming along nicely now

Yes, that was his best game for us.

A fully fit Coutinho and Buendia linking up is a very tasty prospect.

Ings has got to see a spell on the bench. He was totally anonymous. Again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: p_ad on January 15, 2022, 07:36:50 PM
At 0-2 I fucked off and walked the dog, pleasantly surprised doesn't cover it great comeback
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 15, 2022, 07:38:34 PM
That little South American lad looks quite good, can we try to keep him?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PhilVill on January 15, 2022, 07:39:00 PM
Buendia had another great game and is really starting to look good now. This is surely the last game we see Ings and Watkins play as it simply doesn't work. There are signs of a really good side coming together but we still start games so slowly, if we can cut that out we'll win more games than we lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Alex77 on January 15, 2022, 07:39:04 PM
Obviously positives to take from the performance and a great comeback. I'm still a bit deflated though as I think this was a genuine opportunity to finally beat them and we blew it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: supertom on January 15, 2022, 07:39:07 PM
Gifted them two goals. Started way too slowly. Glad we don't play those shithouses again this season. Glad that the ref had no other gifts to give them.

Beundia impressed me again. He's looking a player.
Ings touched it three times. It's never gonna work with him and Ollie sadly. Ollie had a couple of half chances that you wished fell to Ings. That's the way of it. But one or t'other for me.
Ramsey excellent second half.
We missed McGinn.
Digne did well.
Coutinho's impact, even just for sheer presence, was a big lift. Made and scored a goal. I hope he gets fit very quick.

We need to iron out the errors. We need a proper replacement for Nakamba. Doug wasn't bad today, but we still get sliced through the mid a bit too easily at times.

I wish it was last seasons De Gea in goal, because we'd probably still be in the FA Cup and might have won today. Emi, we'll let that slide because it's unlike you. Had that been De Gea though, VAR would have checked and double checked, triple checked, whether our player (in Cavani's position) was offside and probably disallowed it for someone looking at a Utd player funny.

It shouldn't be underestimated just how important a point today is too. Dead and buried at 2-0. A lot of possession without hurting them. Pulling this back just reawakens the Gerrard project and kickstarts the momentum again. Because losing it to a plucky but damp 2-0 would have hurt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 15, 2022, 07:39:18 PM
At 2-0 i left the ground.At 2-2 I was in Brum.
Serves me right.Shades of Sheff Utd
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 15, 2022, 07:39:26 PM
Buendia was like a little magical mosquito, buzzing everywhere. Cash was awesome as well, superb performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 15, 2022, 07:39:54 PM
Should've won that in the end.

Still 4 points in the most jinxed fixture played in last 25 years isn't bad return.

Few points from that.

Digne is going to be such an upgrade on Targett it's untrue. Rusty for first 20 minutes but he actually has an idea what to do once he crosses the halfway line.

First time this season Buendia looked 30m + player. I've been a critic but he's been good last 3-4 matches and all our best moves came through him.

Ramsey was poor first hour and suddenly out of nowhere came into the game. That's maturity and his close control is a joy to watch.

Can we please please please stop playing Ings and Watkins together. Yet again today with just one forward on the pitch and countless midfielders we play some really good football. I expect that to be the template starting at Goodison next Saturday lunchtime.

We might not finish top 8 this season but we're going to be really fun to watch for next four months so just enjoy the show as last 15 minutes was the warm up act.

We will only start beating Man. United on regular basis when we stop gifting them ridiculous goals in each half. No issue with ref tonight but you don't half give yourself uphill battle when one of best keepers in the league chucks one in after five minutes and then Sanson plays a ridiculous ball.

Still good point in the end and Everton are very beatable. If we can schedule Burnley at home soon I fancy us to go on another decent run with what we have for next two months.

Please can we stop playing Ings
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on January 15, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
Oh ho ho, he's magic you know. Phillipe Coutinho.

We were hopeless for a lot of that game. But a little bit of pressure and United go to pieces.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 15, 2022, 07:40:27 PM
Buendia's best half by a mile.  Feels like a win.  We gifted them two goals too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 07:40:51 PM
That little South American lad looks quite good, can we try to keep him?
We signed him on a permanent deal from Norwich
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: TheMalandro on January 15, 2022, 07:41:20 PM
The Coutinho chant sounded really fucking annoying on tv!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 07:41:22 PM
feels like a win - and Gerrard has shown he can make changes to get back into games, chuffed with that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Nelly on January 15, 2022, 07:41:46 PM
Buendia man of the match for me. He absolutely ran the show in the second half. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on January 15, 2022, 07:42:10 PM
Digne was OK too, he definitely had some nice moments in the final 3rd. Whoever is on the left of our midfield 3 needs to stay frosty though.

I also have visions that after a 6 year delay and 11bn dollars spent, a Matty Cash cross collides with a Tonev shot in orbit and the ball's new trajectory ends up smashing into the James Webb telescope
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Scovilla on January 15, 2022, 07:42:30 PM
We should have won this... Same old story vs manure.
We do have team ...
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on January 15, 2022, 07:44:58 PM
Buendia looked brilliant today, the player we thought we were getting. It does feel like a win, added bonus that those chumps will be devastated, especially the goofy cheat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 15, 2022, 07:45:03 PM
Great come back. 

I think we need to see more PC, more Chuck, more of that character

Less Ings and Watkins together. 

Need a DM and to cut out the mistakes. 

Think Emi2 is going to be great for us. 

Ramsey is looking like the first great product of the NSWE Regina - hopefully the first of many.

Digne looks much better going forward, and I think cash looked more threatening if still
some way to go.

We need to make this a turning point and have a great second half of the season, as up to the last 20 it wasn’t good enough at either end. 

Still think this is a key period for SG needs to learn and adapt more quickly.  Got the subs spot on today but could have done it sooner.

Strong finish to the season


Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on January 15, 2022, 07:45:27 PM
Very annoyed about the two gifted goals, but what a comeback!!!

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: steamer on January 15, 2022, 07:46:09 PM
Highs and lows
Let the highs continue
If we can cut that first 20mins crap out of our game and sign a midfield monster, we are on the way
Two new boys excellent , 2nd half vast improvement.
Sansom can fuck off, he is not good enough to be petulant, kicking bottles and swinging arms after giving away a goal is not acceptable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 07:46:46 PM
cut out individual errors a bit and we're a very good side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on January 15, 2022, 07:46:53 PM
The Coutinho chant sounded really fucking annoying on tv!

How does it go? I'll be gutted if it's not the one I've been pushing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 15, 2022, 07:47:35 PM
Main observations;
Digne is going to be a lot better going forward than Targett and probably as good defensively on this showing.
Coutinho is very good at cleverly winning the ball back in advanced positions and he looked like a top quality CF for his goal, right place at the right time.
Buendia is getting better and better
We need to buy a midfielder this month.
Ings and Watkins are both quality players who try hard but it just doesn’t work playing the 2 with that formation.
Fernandez is an utter, utter ******

Oh, and a word for Ramsey who continues to find moments of quality and is going to be hard to drop even if we do bring another midfielder in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 15, 2022, 07:47:36 PM
Great come back after pretty wank before.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 15, 2022, 07:48:18 PM
Imagine how good it would have been to have 'Fergie timed' them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 15, 2022, 07:48:21 PM
Great come back after pretty wank before.

Might I suggest you keep having pretty wanks before all our games
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 15, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-man-utd/report/446498
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 15, 2022, 07:52:03 PM
Digne was OK too, he definitely had some nice moments in the final 3rd. Whoever is on the left of our midfield 3 needs to stay frosty though.

I also have visions that after a 6 year delay and 11bn dollars spent, a Matty Cash cross collides with a Tonev shot in orbit and the ball's new trajectory ends up smashing into the James Webb telescope

Digne looks the part too. It is baby steps still but I am convinced we are going in the right direction.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 15, 2022, 07:53:04 PM
Clearly Buendia man of match today, a brilliant performance. Thought Dougie and Ramsey excellent too. Two individual errors cost us but overall I thought we were great tonight. Feels like a win to me
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Lizz on January 15, 2022, 07:54:45 PM
I had to go out at 1-2. Car radio was tuned to R5. Realised we'd equalised when Savage said something to a Utd fan about they had a 2 goal lead. Great result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 15, 2022, 07:55:08 PM
Our esteemed manager is about to be interviewed on SKY technical problems not withstanding.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villan82 on January 15, 2022, 07:58:06 PM
Great  result in the end. Should have beaten them
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: SaddVillan on January 15, 2022, 07:58:48 PM
Ollie up front.
A psycho destructive defensive m/f in front of the back 4

And then perm 4 from:
Dougie, Meatball, Sanson,
Emi, PC, Ramsey, Chucky, Bailey, Traore

With the non-starters on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 15, 2022, 07:59:30 PM
Ramsey and Coutinho with a goal and assist each.. you love to see it.

Proud of the second half effort. We ended up with more possession, more shots, less fouls and all the momentum. United we’re shitting themselves for the last ten minutes and my god was Sancho terrible.

All in all, pleased with the point but a 90min effort would’ve seen us take all three. Ings and Watkins really need to figure it out - their contribution together and individually isn’t enough to see us up the table.

We took four points from those fuckers this year, UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: pelty on January 15, 2022, 08:00:25 PM
Feel a bit badly for Sanson. Thought he had a really good game and showed what he can bring and then a daft error sees him pulled when Ings was going to be the one pulled.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 15, 2022, 08:02:19 PM
How big are Bruno Fernandes ears? He must be part Vulcan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 15, 2022, 08:02:46 PM
What the fuck is that rat Fernandes moaning about?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: ez on January 15, 2022, 08:02:52 PM
Stops the rot. Would have been criminal to lose again. Ings off sooner and we win that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on January 15, 2022, 08:03:44 PM
Thought that was a real mixed bag. Great last 15 minutes and decent at the start of the second half but large spells in the first half particularly when we were really poor.

Can't win games when you are making mistakes as calamitous as that though.

Buendia was outstanding. Really clever player. Getting better by the week.

Ramsey came on strong and thought Sanson, apart from the terrible mistake for their second, was good too.

Ings and Watkins just can't be picked together again. No way.

However, more than anything, even when we can be concerned about aspects of the play at times you can't knock this team's spirit.

Great to keep going when it was looking so bleak.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 08:03:50 PM
What the fuck is that rat Fernandes moaning about?
he can fuck off - we gifted them two goals, they're lucky to take a point from that game. The prick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Keeno on January 15, 2022, 08:03:56 PM
Feel a bit badly for Sanson. Thought he had a really good game and showed what he can bring and then a daft error sees him pulled when Ings was going to be the one pulled.

Agreed actually - he carries the ball very well and his passing was decent. Linked up with Buendia well for most of the game after we sorted ourselves out first half. Definitely a player there. Switched off once for the error which ended up costing us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2022, 08:04:58 PM
Buendia really is starting to look the part and Ramsey gets better and better. Fair play to Gerrard for making the changes that shifted the tide - I think the winning formula is the one we ended with. Two excellent debuts too - quality makes a difference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 15, 2022, 08:05:18 PM
Feel a bit badly for Sanson. Thought he had a really good game and showed what he can bring and then a daft error sees him pulled when Ings was going to be the one pulled.

Aside from the unfortunate mistake, I thought he played well on the whole. Decent in possession, uses his length to cover ground well and surprisingly tidy with the ball at his feet.

The subs worked out great though, it has to be said. Coutinho for Sanson and Chuky for Ings totally swung the momentum in our favor.

Buendia is quickly proving his worth - some wonderful stuff today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: KevinGage on January 15, 2022, 08:05:37 PM
Yanited will be gutted by that, which is good.

Strolling to their usual VP victory and a former Redscouse does that to them.

I hope Ol'Beetroot features went even more purple (if that's at all possible). I wish all the bad things in the world on them and only them.

It's some shameful shit that we haven't beat this shower at home since about 1923 and I'm not about to start celebrating draws now. But plenty of positives with that second half display.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Lizz on January 15, 2022, 08:08:45 PM
Feels like Sky haven't stopped talking about the opposition yet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 15, 2022, 08:09:48 PM
We played some really good football and then spoil it with a shit pass.  Not sure what has happened to Watkins and Cash but they seem to have gone backwards.  Buendia was absolutely brilliant and frustratingly average at times but I think had a really good game overall.  Cut out the stupid mistakes and we will be a good side.  For goodness sake, get a defensive midfielder in front of that back four and Fernandez doesn't get the second goal.  Great comeback, plenty of fight and heart.  Feels like a win and i will take four points out of six from United any season.  Brave from Gerrard with the subs, although I guess he HAD to do something as we were 2-0 down, but great subs and we move up a place in the table too.   I love the fact that we have a couple of players in who can get beyond the forwards to score goals.  Well done Villa. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 15, 2022, 08:13:31 PM
Feels like Sky haven't stopped talking about the opposition yet.
I just came on to post this. I fkn hate the 'Big 6'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 15, 2022, 08:14:00 PM
I thought Cash was immense personally. We all see things differently though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Chap on January 15, 2022, 08:14:08 PM
Still going!!, 2 mins for our lads, 15 for Penandes🤔🤔
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smoke on January 15, 2022, 08:14:16 PM
9 points off 7th.

Let's go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 15, 2022, 08:15:08 PM
I thought Cash was immense personally. We all see things differently though.

It's his distribution.  If we can get that sorted, he will be fine but he just seems to be lacking a bit of confidence recently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: devilla on January 15, 2022, 08:15:20 PM
As expected sky are concentrating on manure losing a 2 goal lead rather than us having come back from 2 down. Tossers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 15, 2022, 08:16:37 PM
• Thought Bunedia was excellent.
• Digne ditto and we’ve now got an attacking threat from left back which we haven't had for quite awhile.
• Ramsey was terrible first half but fantastic second half.
• Sanson and Martinez both played well despite their respective mistakes.
• When were we last time we were in a position to bring on a sub like Coutinho that could help change a game?
• Ings and Watkins needs binning. I’ve wanted it to work. Gave it time to work but it just doesn’t. Has to be one or the other.
• A comeback against them like that is glorious.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2022, 08:17:09 PM
Not a single cheer in the pub when they scored. Knew I’d moved to a decent area.

Sloppy mistakes. Good come back. I’d have taken a draw before hand if I’d knew we had gone behind
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: steamer on January 15, 2022, 08:18:54 PM
I will have to trawl through results, but I can not  remember going 2-0 down to these fuckers and not losing
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: CT Villan on January 15, 2022, 08:20:44 PM
How shit are Man Utd ? Two gifts of goals and they still can't win  ;D

Thought Digne was excellent on his debut.

Too much sloppy play by most of the team in the first half, I thought Sanson struggled in the first and was out of position for the free-kick that led to their first (that Emi should have saved) and was obviously responsible for their second too. Ramsey similarly was a bit anonymous in the first-half as well but grew into the game and became central to our fightback.

It feels like it takes a Gerrard bollocking for them to get going, so I'm suggesting that he bollock them before the first half even starts. That should help.

Buendia is getting better every match, though Watkins and Ings are a worry, particularly Ollie as his finishing and decision-making continues to frustrate.

Which brings me to the wizard, Phil from Brazil, it couldn't have gone any better for him and he is going to be an epic signing for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on January 15, 2022, 08:22:01 PM
A game of 2 halves !!
Fantastic comeback. I thought Buendia was MOM. yes he sometimes gives it away still, but he was generally excellent today. Always wanting the ball which must mean his confidence is now high.
Digne looked very decent as well.

I’ll be staggered is Gerrard plays Ings and Watkins again. It has to be one or the other. Which despite a poor first half the season would be Watkins for me. More mobile , and great work rate even when he’s poor like today.

Why is it keepers never make that one mistake when your 3-0 uo ? It’s always at a crucial time.

Sanson did well , but did he kick a water bottle into the lower trinity? Liked like it from upper ?

Great subs made the difference. That’s good management.

Pleased with a point , but equally a little frustrated it want three.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: saint13 on January 15, 2022, 08:24:02 PM
Brilliant interview from our new manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 15, 2022, 08:24:52 PM
Sanson was rightly pissed off with himself, rather than with being subbed IMAO.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 15, 2022, 08:26:55 PM
Absolutely feeling so positive about  our manager after that Post  match interview…
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 15, 2022, 08:27:42 PM
So annoying to gift them two goals. They don’t need any assistance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 15, 2022, 08:28:16 PM
Brilliant interview from our new manager.

He's fucking brilliant. I could listen to him all night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LamBeast on January 15, 2022, 08:28:32 PM
A bit of magic at Villa Park today…
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 15, 2022, 08:29:13 PM
Absolutely feeling so positive about  our manager after that Post  match interview…

Link?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: ROBBO on January 15, 2022, 08:29:47 PM
Mystified that Gerrard is persisting with Ings as a starter it hasn't worked in any game. Buendia brilliant all day and he he won a few fifty fifties. Gerrard said he had to let them have some home truths at half time and it worked, when you look at the game they scored two through defensive errors we scored two through brilliant football. Sanson had a good game it's a shame one error took the shine off. We need a genuine wide player instead of Ings we were far too narrow first half. Critisised Chuk during the week but his cameo made a difference and a big shout out to Hause who didn't put a foot wrong after he came on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on January 15, 2022, 08:30:35 PM
Sansom can fuck off, he is not good enough to be petulant, kicking bottles and swinging arms after giving away a goal is not acceptable.

He was great today. I’m glad he was angry with himself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 15, 2022, 08:31:14 PM
Brilliant interview from our new manager.

He's fucking brilliant. I could listen to him all night.

this bit. Some of our players will be finding themselves not playing if they do this too often

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/status/1482448042536095751?s=20
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 15, 2022, 08:35:12 PM
Abysmal first 30 minutes and United’s set up really stopped us playing and they looked a class above. However we seemed to settle and started to get more progressive with our passing and created some chances. Second half bar there goal it was all us, absolutely superb and yes there are things we can improve but so proud of the team and the fight back. Impressed with Sanson again. I was a bit suspicious that Digne was any sort of upgrade on Targett but I was massively wrong. Lovely cameos from Coutinho and Chuck. Ramsey grew into the game, really not with it the first 60 minutes. Ings/Watkins is worrying, make a decision Steven.

Emi Buendia man of the match for me lovely play and at the centre of so many good things.



Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 15, 2022, 08:36:13 PM
So honest from Steven Gerrard.  Sounds like the players know exactly where they stand and what he is trying to achieve. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: donnygate on January 15, 2022, 08:38:37 PM
Any news on Konsa’s injury? Can’t afford to lose him for too many matches.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 15, 2022, 08:39:36 PM
I just wish we stop bashing players online.  They aren't getting better that way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 15, 2022, 08:40:39 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 15, 2022, 08:41:01 PM
Sansom can fuck off, he is not good enough to be petulant, kicking bottles and swinging arms after giving away a goal is not acceptable.

He was great today. I’m glad he was angry with himself.


yep he was angry with himself. he looked good on the whole i thought
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 15, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?
Trust me - they do.  (Not here - twitter,  fb , Instagram)
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: TonyD on January 15, 2022, 08:49:34 PM
Definitely turned it round.
Ramsey is absolutely class.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: steamer on January 15, 2022, 08:50:04 PM
Sansom can fuck off, he is not good enough to be petulant, kicking bottles and swinging arms after giving away a goal is not acceptable.

He was great today. I’m glad he was angry with himself.
I am not sure I saw him as great today
If he was pissed off with himself today, good he deserved to be
Not the first time he has kicked the bottles after being subbed
If he puts his head down and improves, well, good for all of us
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2022, 08:51:10 PM
I think for the first time in my life time I can say we’ve play them 3 times in a season and not deserved to lose a single game
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2022, 08:51:44 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?
I imagine a lot of them are self inflated narcissist
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 15, 2022, 08:51:59 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?
Trust me - they do.  (Not here - twitter,  fb , Instagram)

100 times more toxic on social media than anything put on here tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 15, 2022, 08:52:10 PM
Granted, Sanson's pass sold Mings a bit short but not that... short. Plus it was Fred, surely at worst Mings should have booted Fred and the ball back up towards the other end of the pitch. He just stood still for some reason, didn't even try and force him down the side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 15, 2022, 08:53:20 PM
The best way possible not to win. I'm happy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 15, 2022, 08:53:59 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?
Trust me - they do.  (Not here - twitter,  fb , Instagram)

100 times more toxic on social media than anything put on here tonight.

speaking of toxic, redcafe and yanited Twitter is in fine form. “Fuck this team” the flavor of the week for those plastics.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: lovejoy on January 15, 2022, 08:54:20 PM
I thought Cash was immense personally. We all see things differently though.

He had a mare.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 15, 2022, 08:56:00 PM
I thought Cash was immense personally. We all see things differently though.

He had a mare.

He locked down Sancho for the final 20.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Richard E on January 15, 2022, 08:57:50 PM
They have the most dislikeable fans of anyone, including Liverpool and Blose, arrogant, boorish gobshites.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 15, 2022, 08:59:08 PM
Cash was awful for the first half an hour and the young lad Elonga was giving him a torrid time. Two quick tackles at the start of the second half soon put paid to his influence and Cash was very front foot for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 15, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
They have the most dislikeable fans of anyone, including Liverpool and Blose, arrogant, boorish gobshites.

They must've been full of beans, having not had far to travel from Telford, Bromsgrove and Kiddy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: martyn ellis on January 15, 2022, 09:03:09 PM
Sanson looked really good to me. Felt for him when he made his only mistake. Loved Gerrard's comment that he checked whether he was angry about the mistake or being subbed - the former thank goodness; there's a real player there. And no-one seems to have mentioned the fact that his foul that led to the free kick that led to the first goal was more a good tackle than a foul. You just knew we would pay for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 15, 2022, 09:05:27 PM
And no-one seems to have mentioned the fact that his foul that led to the free kick that led to the first goal was more a good tackle than a foul.

It was monumentally shit refereeing, unfortunately what followed was even wirse by us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 15, 2022, 09:06:10 PM
They have the most dislikeable fans of anyone, including Liverpool and Blose, arrogant, boorish gobshites.

This.

I'm not far from them either, I was more pleased that the equaliser shut them the fuck up than anything else, if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 15, 2022, 09:06:20 PM
First half poor, second half much improved. Game changed on subbing Ings off and playing Ollie up top. This has to be the way forward, just a little concerned that it's taking so long for the penny to drop with management.
Buendia motm. Mings a great driving force in the second half. Digne played well but ran out of steam. It was a silly challenge of his to earn the booking in the 1st half. Coutinho a great cameo role when he came on rewarded with his goal.
Ref better 2nd half after a poor 1st half.
The starting midfield 3 of Sansom,  Ramsey and Luiz were fairly static 1st half. Improved after the break. I still feel
re-inforcements are required in this area.
2-0 up and they f-cked it up. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: jimmygreen on January 15, 2022, 09:06:29 PM
Credit to the Skipper for the positive push forward with the ball for the first. Took two of them out with a hip swivel.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2022, 09:06:37 PM
They have the most dislikeable fans of anyone, including Liverpool and Blose, arrogant, boorish gobshites.

They must've been full of beans, having not had far to travel from Telford, Bromsgrove and Kiddy.
I know a few and they’re from Frankley. Utter disgrace
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 15, 2022, 09:10:06 PM
Credit to the Skipper for the positive push forward with the ball for the first. Took two of them out with a hip swivel.


Mings was absolutely inspirational in the second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd
Post by: AGRIPPA on January 15, 2022, 09:17:15 PM
Well done Villa.

I hope one day, Bruno Fernandes is eaten by a Great White Shark. A loathsome individual.

Buendia man of the match.

Watkins and Ings garbage. I wish we wouldn't fanny about with the ball at the back so often, also.

I don’t hate much but he is there to be hated…..
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 15, 2022, 09:19:07 PM
I thought Cash was immense personally. We all see things differently though.

He had a mare.

What match were you watching chap?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 15, 2022, 09:20:53 PM
They have the most dislikeable fans of anyone, including Liverpool and Blose, arrogant, boorish gobshites.

Have they ever been any different?  Seems like they have got a new tasteful song about Matic to add to their repertoire, "he comes from Serbia, he'll f@ckin' murder ya".  Sure any Croats and Bosnians that they come up against love hearing that one.

As for the game, thought we started slowly, but came back into as the first half wore on.  Thought we were better 2nd half, but thought that 2nd goal had finished us, especially after such a mistake in the build up to it (Sanson obviously frustrated and gave the first few rows of the Trinity a soaking when he kicked the water bottles).  Then it just clicked and we scored two great goals (Martinez jumping into the North Stand to celebrate was great!!).  Thought Chuk did really well when he came on and Coutinho just gives that extra bit of quality in the final third which showed.

As for the Watkins / Ings debate, I think the idea is to ay somewhat of a fluid 3, but this inevitably leads to Ings being out wide at times, where he is just no use at all. They are really going to have to fight it out for one starting place

To sum up, great comeback and great to shut them up, but a bit disappointing not to have won due to the poor goals we gave away. 


Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2022, 09:24:47 PM
I’ve been critical of Mings in the past but we’re way better off with him in the team than without. If there were 10 minutes more we would have won that game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 15, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?
Trust me - they do.  (Not here - twitter,  fb , Instagram)

100 times more toxic on social media than anything put on here tonight.
I mean in general. I just think supportive is better than "you useless c***", which happens a lot online.
This place is probably one of the best online,  but i wasn't referring to us.  But twitter and likes
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 15, 2022, 09:25:06 PM
I hope Everton don't sack Benitez given they are up next!  Equally, I hope we don't turn back into benevolent Villa!  A really good show tonight for any player we are in talks with that we are so close to being a good side, come and join us!  Important for the negotiations that we didn't lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 15, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
Chuffed with the way we battled back, awful first 30 minutes but once Ings came off it worked. Hopefully we go with one main striker next time.

Never seen so many half and half scarves as much as today, depressing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2022, 09:29:56 PM
Rafa in
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ditton33 on January 15, 2022, 09:38:47 PM
Credit to the Skipper for the positive push forward with the ball for the first. Took two of them out with a hip swivel.
Agreed, just watched the highlights on Sky and thought the whole move for the first goal was superb. So glad we just didn't roll over after their second. Great fight back for the draw, lets hope we can push on from this, and creep up the table over the remaining games. Please can we just keep PC fit!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: FrankyH on January 15, 2022, 09:46:53 PM
I have always hated them , then to crank it up a notch my manager for the best part of 25 years was a man ure fan. When we won the first game of the season at Villa park in 1995 I went to find him on monday morning to give him some , his reply was  "I'm done with  them , I'll watch Henesford ( he lived in stafford).
Just think about that for a minute folks , his team lost the first game of the season , and that was it he was done with them.
Although he wasn't as they kept on winning shit under their cheat of  a manager mr ferguson.
Another gem from this glory hunter  was for him to tell me that none of his grandchildren were united fans..." Even the way I am Frank."
He went to one game ( a corporate freebie ) in 25 years and genuinely thought he was a died in the wool man u fan ..c*nt !



Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: DB on January 15, 2022, 09:47:07 PM
Just got back. Good game, ManUre really are poor, we should have worn bar 2 errors. Buendia was great as was Sanson. If only they could cut out the errors they though, but the former created loads. Instead and Watkins is nor working bother were poor. I hope now with the new Brazilian he will go with one, prob Watkins based on his workmate.
I think more and more we will start to produce and get results. Oh, still think we need a holding midfielder.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 15, 2022, 10:09:05 PM
We wasted a third of the game today. I wasn't anticipating such a passive start that lasted far too long.

However, well done to the players on the comeback which was down to some very good play and in the second half we were good. Buendía had his best game and is at last starting to look like the player we hoped for.

The concern is still the number of unnecessary mistakes we make that lead to conceding a goal. It happens far too often.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 15, 2022, 10:17:46 PM
Martinez 5
Cash 6 (1st half 4, 2nd eight)
Digne 8.5
Mings 7 (1st half 5, 2nd 9)
Konsa 5.5
Hause 7
Ramsey 7 (1st half 4, 2nd 10)
Sanson 6.5
Doug 6 (1st half 4, 2nd eight)
Watkins 5
Ings 4
Buendia 8
Coutinho 8.5
Chuk 8
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: KevinGage on January 15, 2022, 10:20:19 PM
Credit to the Skipper for the positive push forward with the ball for the first. Took two of them out with a hip swivel.

I know we don't want to be revisiting three at the back anytime soon.

But Mings made his name as a left back earlier in his career and I did feel if we were persisting with that, him on the left side of a three with licence to dart upfield every so often, we could get some joy. Forcing overloads or whatever the current buzzword is.

He turned the game v Fulham at home bombing forward last year and he has that in his locker.

In a two it's harder, but stlll worth looking at as a shock tactic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: alan_clarke on January 15, 2022, 10:26:48 PM
Nice comeback. Shame to only get a draw out of those last two games and pumping them both times. Watkins is a championship player on the left, excellent prem striker through the midde. Buendia has totally turned my opinion of him around - still wasteful at times but glad to have him now. Some great options for a first 11 now when all fit - almost think we could do a man city style no out and out striker line up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on January 15, 2022, 10:32:17 PM
First 30 minutes was likely the worst I’ve seen Villa play this season.

Improved in the last few minutes of the first half and were the better team all second half apart from another brain fart goal.

Makes a difference when you can bring on a player like Philly.

Emi2 is winning me over now.

The persistence of playing both Ings and Watkins has to end.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ian. on January 15, 2022, 10:39:50 PM
We’ve got through some very tough fixtures and we’ve shown real signs we can compete and play some good football. We’ve also shown we do make silly mistakes as well and we need to start each match with that belief. I’m not sure what happened in that first half today or that second half against Brentford but we have to cut that out. We can be very good and I have feeling we will start to believe it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 15, 2022, 11:05:04 PM
That was an abysmal first half. We seemed to lack effort as much as anything.

Buendia is bloody great, I hope people stop doubting him.

Ramsey is something special.

Digne had a great debut, such an improvement going forward. Good in the air to boot.

Coutinho. More, more, more...

Definitely need a right footed CB.

Watkins is lacking his instinctive play.

Martinez. What's he doing?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 15, 2022, 11:17:31 PM
They have the most dislikeable fans of anyone, including Liverpool and Blose, arrogant, boorish gobshites.

Come to see United chant was laughable.  Perhaps so 10 years ago but we've been averaging 40k for last 3 years when allowed in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 15, 2022, 11:18:35 PM
We have 7 winnable games next - so think this will be critical to our season.  Take some momentum from this game into them.  To me it feels like SG could use that to really start to mould the team.

We have to stop ings and Watkins - both look good on there own, but worse together.

Emi2 starting to look class.  Think Digne looks great going forward. 

A DCM is a must, and must get better passing particularly around our box. 

Would like to see mings with more of those run forward Helps to mix it up. 

Love Ramsey, thought Chuck looked good would be good to sort his head out and get him signed. 

When you think we have Bailey and Bert still to come back we have a really strong squad - and as Purslow said earlier it would be great to see a string finish to the season to set us up we’ll for the summer
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 15, 2022, 11:21:40 PM
Not a good first half but a much better second Buendia played really well Lucas Digne had a good game Ramsey did well in the second half and I'm pleased for Coutinho scoring on his debut.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 15, 2022, 11:22:31 PM
Credit to the Skipper for the positive push forward with the ball for the first. Took two of them out with a hip swivel.

I know we don't want to be revisiting three at the back anytime soon.

But Mings made his name as a left back earlier in his career and I did feel if we were persisting with that, him on the left side of a three with licence to dart upfield every so often, we could get some joy. Forcing overloads or whatever the current buzzword is.

He turned the game v Fulham at home bombing forward last year and he has that in his locker.

In a two it's harder, but stlll worth looking at as a shock tactic.

Could work if the DM eventually we sign is adept at dropping quickly into back 4 when he decides to have a stroll upfield.

What a good cross that was from Ramsey btw for 2-2. Love the quick look he did on the replay to see where Coutinho was, that's game intelligence for you as Elanga had a similar chance a few minutes before and hit it straight at Martinez when Cavani was waiting for a tap in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 15, 2022, 11:22:57 PM
Great comeback. Most frustrating thing was the amount of times villa players were winning the ball back or turning out of trouble, then passing it straight back to a Utd player. That will be drilled out of them soon, and feel we’re in for a ride!

Re. Cash. I’ve been a bit outspoken about him recently, but that’s only because Gerrard’s tactics have really exposed his main weakness - Distribution.
If we played with a rigid back 4 and a more traditional RB, he’d be perfect, but as an attacking wingback he’s offering hardly anything in the final third.

I hope he can improve in this area, as he’s definitely not short of effort, but compare how dangerous Digne was on the other flank and it’s night and day.

Also a special shout-out to Emi Buendia. He was a man mountain tonight. Been improving game on game and now looks the real deal. My MOTM
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 15, 2022, 11:24:19 PM
Buendia was really excellent, I thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 15, 2022, 11:24:52 PM
First 30 minutes was likely the worst I’ve seen Villa play this season.

Improved in the last few minutes of the first half and were the better team all second half apart from another brain fart goal.

Makes a difference when you can bring on a player like Philly.

Emi2 is winning me over now.

The persistence of playing both Ings and Watkins has to end.



Good point there.

For years we've lacked a genuine gamechanger off the match and showed the value of one tonight.

Now of course Coutinho will go into first 11 as soon as possible but I suspect that's the role Bailey will have rest of the season if he can ever get himself fully fit.

Probably makes sense for us to have him as impact sub rest of the season while we work out how to get him into the team and of course less minutes means less chance of another muscle injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: andyh on January 15, 2022, 11:30:04 PM
How big are Bruno Fernandes ears? He must be part Vulcan.
They are not ears, they are labia.
He is a ******, afterall.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 15, 2022, 11:34:28 PM
They bossed it for half an hour mainly due to their control of the midfield. We missed Mc Gunn’s energy in that area. Even so, it was abundantly clear we needed to change it. Ings and Watkins together doesn’t work.  One is a good finisher and little else the other is less so but has plenty of energy. These two should be competing for the one position as it proved when it eventually changed. We took the game then.  As others have said, Bundia MOM, Ramsey excellent 2nd half. Sanson good too the bad back for their 2nd apart. Cash too was good….had a mare someone said??? Mings decent overall and a good debut from Digne, he will improve us. Also, a good debut by Coutinho, limbs everywhere when he scored. Message to Villa fans around me, there is no ‘r’ in his name.

The ref was awful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 15, 2022, 11:35:54 PM
So frustrating to gift them two goals.

Fernandes is a shit of footballer.
Fernándes is a cheat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 15, 2022, 11:38:36 PM
Shit first half hour, excellent rest of game.

Martinez - 5 (other than for the 1st goal would have been an 8).

Digne - 8 Great debut.

Mings - 8 Good game.

Konsa - 6 Not his best game, but hopefully not badly injured.

Cash - 6 Hit and miss again.

Luiz - 3 Pointless.

Ramsey - 7 Shit 1st half but excellent 2nd half.

Sanson - 7 Would have been higher without the 2nd goal. Getting better and better.

Buendia 9 - superb all game.

Ings 2 - Needs dropping.

Watkins - 3 Also needs dropping or at least one of them does.

Coutinho 10 - brilliant 15 minutes.

Hause 7 - played well.

Chuck - 8 Good cameo

9 times out of 10 we win that game with that performance. Unlucky Martinez made an uncharacteristic blunder. We will beat Everton comfortably.




Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 15, 2022, 11:38:55 PM
Buendia was really excellent, I thought.
Buendia can be as good as he who must not be named.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 15, 2022, 11:43:54 PM
Shit first half hour, excellent rest of game.

Martinez - 5 (other than for the 1st goal would have been an 8).

Digne - 8 Great debut.

Mings - 8 Good game.

Konsa - 6 Not his best game, but hopefully not badly injured.

Cash - 6 Hit and miss again.

Luiz - 3 Pointless.

Ramsey - 7 Shit 1st half but excellent 2nd half.

Sanson - 7 Would have been higher without the 2nd goal. Getting better and better.

Buendia 9 - superb all game.

Ings 2 - Needs dropping.

Watkins - 3 Also needs dropping or at least one of them does.

Coutinho 10 - brilliant 15 minutes.

Hause 7 - played well.

Chuck - 8 Good cameo

9 times out of 10 we win that game with that performance. Unlucky Martinez made an uncharacteristic blunder. We will beat Everton comfortably.





I’m amazed how you give Luiz, Watkins and Ings such low marks makes me smile with sorrow. Luiz worked his socks off to track Fernandez, Watkins covered loads of ground to try and pull space for midfield, even Ings, though not great put a shift in…honestly just support
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 15, 2022, 11:45:20 PM
The support is honestly there. It is a set of opinions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 15, 2022, 11:46:42 PM
I wouldn't give Luiz a 3, but thought he was mostly a bit poor, and a 5/10 tops. Ing would get a 3, Watkins 5 because he at least shows some effort.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 15, 2022, 11:54:06 PM
First half, not great at all even if it was only a fuck up that put us a goal behind. Second half, much better. I thought Chucky made a difference when he came on. He seemed to give us a bit more bite in the middle. He really does look a cracking player. Bendy was great as well. Digne had a very decent second half too.

Overall, a game we should have won and definatley didn't deserve to lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: BC Villain on January 15, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
Still far too many games this season where we've taken an age to get going.  Much better in the second half,  but still extremely lucky to get out of that with a point given how bad the first half was.

Better sided than United would have had that game won after an hour. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 16, 2022, 12:30:03 AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-news-bruno-fernandes-25957884

And they wonder why they are universally hated.  Also he wasn’t saying how fcuking lucky they were last Monday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on January 16, 2022, 12:40:23 AM
I think the midfield just missed the tempo that McGinn sets from the start.  Doesn't always work.  The three that started today are nice, tidy, ball playing midfielders and they were ruffled first half.  They were more aggressive second though.  Overall it was great to come back and take points off them.  That United side was there for the taking, but in the circumstances it has to be a confidence booster going into Everton and Leeds.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 16, 2022, 12:42:33 AM
Buendia was great overall - people need to be patient with him. It can take a few months to settle into a new club. The same will happen with Bailey, given time and of course, fitness. Just go and get Bissouma now!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 16, 2022, 12:49:15 AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-news-bruno-fernandes-25957884

And they wonder why they are universally hated.  Also he wasn’t saying how fcuking lucky they were last Monday.

Let their delusions continue I say. They are going so far backwards it’s untrue. They’ve still got a bit to go before they’re really a laughing stock but they’re well on the way. And he’s on the journey with them. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 16, 2022, 12:53:39 AM
What a comeback that was. Honestly thought we would snatch it at the death, but wasn’t to be unfortunately. Whilst the first one was just a fluke  and uncharacteristic howler by Martinez. The second felt like a kick in the bollocks- terrible back pass by the otherwise impressive Sanson in a period where we were on top.

In recent seasons there’s no way back from 2-0 down against those ******, but the subs worked a treat. Agree with many posters- Ings and Watkins together doesn’t seem to work in terms of goals, but we do look threatening still. If Gerrard still wants to persist with it, at least we know we can revert to 1 striker and get a goal or 2.

I’d be quite excited to see Coutinho - Archer - Buendia  at some point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 16, 2022, 01:07:38 AM
Shit first half hour, excellent rest of game.

Martinez - 5 (other than for the 1st goal would have been an 8).

Digne - 8 Great debut.

Mings - 8 Good game.

Konsa - 6 Not his best game, but hopefully not badly injured.

Cash - 6 Hit and miss again.

Luiz - 3 Pointless.

Ramsey - 7 Shit 1st half but excellent 2nd half.

Sanson - 7 Would have been higher without the 2nd goal. Getting better and better.

Buendia 9 - superb all game.

Ings 2 - Needs dropping.

Watkins - 3 Also needs dropping or at least one of them does.

Coutinho 10 - brilliant 15 minutes.

Hause 7 - played well.

Chuck - 8 Good cameo

9 times out of 10 we win that game with that performance. Unlucky Martinez made an uncharacteristic blunder. We will beat Everton comfortably.
Watkins has never been good enough for the Premier League. Maybe eventually Stevie G will understand.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 16, 2022, 01:21:00 AM
I don’t agree that Watkins isn’t good enough for the premier league. He clearly is, as was proved last season.

Have to say though that I was really glad that the goal scoring chance fell to Coutinho and not Watkins. I remember seeing a slo-mo replay of it and noticed that Coutinho just took a little half step to compose himself before confidently flicking past de Gea into the net. I reckon Watkins in a similar position may have hit the bar with that chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 16, 2022, 01:45:52 AM
Shit first half hour, excellent rest of game.

Martinez - 5 (other than for the 1st goal would have been an 8).

Digne - 8 Great debut.

Mings - 8 Good game.

Konsa - 6 Not his best game, but hopefully not badly injured.

Cash - 6 Hit and miss again.

Luiz - 3 Pointless.

Ramsey - 7 Shit 1st half but excellent 2nd half.

Sanson - 7 Would have been higher without the 2nd goal. Getting better and better.

Buendia 9 - superb all game.

Ings 2 - Needs dropping.

Watkins - 3 Also needs dropping or at least one of them does.

Coutinho 10 - brilliant 15 minutes.

Hause 7 - played well.

Chuck - 8 Good cameo

9 times out of 10 we win that game with that performance. Unlucky Martinez made an uncharacteristic blunder. We will beat Everton comfortably.
Watkins has never been good enough for the Premier League. Maybe eventually Steven G will understand.

There are 20 clubs in the Premier League. If we made Ollie available for transfer tomorrow, I bet we’d get a call from well over half of them.  He’s more than good enough for the premier league, he’s just a bit out of form.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 16, 2022, 01:51:15 AM
I thought they scored the first at the perfect time for them, it took away any momentum we had from Monday, gave them a boost, and us a knock to the confidence.  But after that first 25 mins when we were crap I thought we bossed it. They had a couple of chances on the break, but we gifted them a second.

JJ was great second half, Buendia is looking a proper player now, and I actually thought Sanson did pretty well until he got hooked. Digne too, looks a useful upgrade going forward.  As so many other have said, if that game is 10 mins longer we definitely win.

We’ve taken four points of them this season, and I’m genuinely disappointed it’s not the 6 we deserved.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 16, 2022, 02:05:26 AM

There are 20 clubs in the Premier League. If we made Ollie available for transfer tomorrow, I bet we’d get a call from well over half of them.  He’s more than good enough for the premier league, he’s just a bit out of form.

The question is which half would call.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: ROBBO on January 16, 2022, 03:21:20 AM
It overlooks the fact that he has lost form from the day he was paired with Ings, When Ings was out for a couple of weeks he reverted to being a good player, Watkins needs to play centrally close to goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 16, 2022, 03:30:17 AM
It overlooks the fact that he has lost form from the day he was paired with Ings, When Ings was out for a couple of weeks he reverted to being a good player, Watkins needs to play centrally close to goal.

If Watkins wants to play for a champions league club then he’s going to have to learn to be able to play in different positions across the front line. Not only that, but even straight down the middle last season Watkins wasn’t as clinical as he should be, wasn’t great on his left foot and didn’t have much by way of a trick to be beat a man. He’s got plenty to be working on in his game. None of that has got anything to do with Ings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: baddowvillans on January 16, 2022, 05:50:35 AM
Granted, Sanson's pass sold Mings a bit short but not that... short. Plus it was Fred, surely at worst Mings should have booted Fred and the ball back up towards the other end of the pitch. He just stood still for some reason, didn't even try and force him down the side.

I'm with bronte on this.  Mings was on his heels and coukd have taken Fred out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 16, 2022, 05:57:40 AM
They bossed it for half an hour mainly due to their control of the midfield. We missed Mc Gunn’s energy in that area. Even so, it was abundantly clear we needed to change it. Ings and Watkins together doesn’t work.  One is a good finisher and little else the other is less so but has plenty of energy. These two should be competing for the one position as it proved when it eventually changed. We took the game then.  As others have said, Bundia MOM, Ramsey excellent 2nd half. Sanson good too the bad back for their 2nd apart. Cash too was good….had a mare someone said??? Mings decent overall and a good debut from Digne, he will improve us. Also, a good debut by Coutinho, limbs everywhere when he scored. Message to Villa fans around me, there is no ‘r’ in his name.

The ref was awful.

Fair summary except the last line. For me the ref was excellent and FOR ONCE it was fair and square against these tossers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 16, 2022, 06:00:40 AM
It overlooks the fact that he has lost form from the day he was paired with Ings, When Ings was out for a couple of weeks he reverted to being a good player, Watkins needs to play centrally close to goal.

If Watkins wants to play for a champions league club then he’s going to have to learn to be able to play in different positions across the front line. Not only that, but even straight down the middle last season Watkins wasn’t as clinical as he should be, wasn’t great on his left foot and didn’t have much by way of a trick to be beat a man. He’s got plenty to be working on in his game. None of that has got anything to do with Ings.
I’d agree with this. I thought he had a good season last season but haven’t seen him progress this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 16, 2022, 07:46:42 AM
Granted, Sanson's pass sold Mings a bit short but not that... short. Plus it was Fred, surely at worst Mings should have booted Fred and the ball back up towards the other end of the pitch. He just stood still for some reason, didn't even try and force him down the side.

I'm with bronte on this.  Mings was on his heels and coukd have taken Fred out.

Yes he might have given Fred a whack but the goal was not his fault at all.  Watch it again and look for the lack of concentration with Luiz. Mings stood Fred up, which is what classy players are taught. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 16, 2022, 08:28:24 AM
Shit first half hour, excellent rest of game.

Martinez - 5 (other than for the 1st goal would have been an 8).

Digne - 8 Great debut.

Mings - 8 Good game.

Konsa - 6 Not his best game, but hopefully not badly injured.

Cash - 6 Hit and miss again.

Luiz - 3 Pointless.

Ramsey - 7 Shit 1st half but excellent 2nd half.

Sanson - 7 Would have been higher without the 2nd goal. Getting better and better.

Buendia 9 - superb all game.

Ings 2 - Needs dropping.

Watkins - 3 Also needs dropping or at least one of them does.

Coutinho 10 - brilliant 15 minutes.

Hause 7 - played well.

Chuck - 8 Good cameo

9 times out of 10 we win that game with that performance. Unlucky Martinez made an uncharacteristic blunder. We will beat Everton comfortably.
Watkins has never been good enough for the Premier League. Maybe eventually Steven G will understand.

There are 20 clubs in the Premier League. If we made Ollie available for transfer tomorrow, I bet we’d get a call from well over half of them.  He’s more than good enough for the premier league, he’s just a bit out of form.
I think the scores for Luiz, Ings and Watkins are harsh too. Luiz worked hard IMO and did a good job. With Ings and Watkins, I think the service they are getting is not helping them. They’re making the runs but not not getting the passes required. It pains me to say it but that is what Grealish did so well last season for Watkins. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 16, 2022, 08:28:53 AM
Delighted to get something from the game after where we were on 75 minutes but disappointing not to break the hoodoo. Second half was similar to Monday with goals added. We have matched them twice in a week. They will almost certainly qualify for Europe this season so if that is the level we are aspiring to maybe we are not that far off?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 16, 2022, 08:48:15 AM
I’d more think that they’ll be lucky to qualify for Europe this year. Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Wolves and West Ham- there’s 7 teams all currently better than them. We should’ve had 6 points in the league off them and knocked them out of the FA cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 16, 2022, 09:10:12 AM
Gerrard's "Stoke" game, that. As in Smith's, not MON's. Watch us fkn go now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 16, 2022, 09:14:34 AM
I tell you what, that last-minute corner they got... Well as I said to my lad, I've seen this story so many times.. However, the ending appears to have been rewritten.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2022, 09:19:09 AM
The third time we've played Man United this season and the third time we've been comfortably the better, more progressive and more threatening side.

The manner of the goal we conceded rocked us. It took us a while to get to grips. It feels more like repetition of the manager rather than my own take on things, but its refreshing to hear how he sees the game and how in step with how we see it is.

Passive and deep in midfield, missing McGinn badly. Letting them stroke it about, to not much effect mind and not getting our full backs engaged. It was poor fare and it was more inkeeping with the previous 26 years than what we've seen of us of late.

That said, De Gea makes a good save from Buendia, where the ball goes half a yard anywhere else and it's in and also a good save from nose bleed Digne. Crikey that boy likes to get forwards.

Second half, we dominated. Man United had a couple of breaks with Cavani setting one up and Greenwood going close. But they largely reverted to type by sitting deep, hoofing the ball clear and getting a huge slice of luck against the run of play with the second.

Poor from Sanson, who had played well for me. Mings indecision makes Rat Face's mind up and the rodent finished well.

As an aside, I wouldn't tire of 90 minutes of him being kicked in the nads. Horrible, snide, whinging player. Have a look for his tantrum when our 2nd goes in.

Excellent come back though. When do we show bottle against these? Ramsey is going to be some player, he really has got the lot and how far he goes is down to him.

It certainly helped to bring the 3rd or 4th most expensive player off the bench and it wasn't lost on me that Hause passed a ball to him. In the same team. Bizarre.

Cut them to ribbons with our passing and movement for both goals. Had enough chances before to win it.

Beundia continues to look good. Watkins and Ings continue to not work together. Digne going forwards is excellent and a huge upgrade on Targett. I feel Cash was more like it too, one daft pass aside. We really do need a defensive sitter to screen though as they will leave space behind them and Luiz is an 8 for me all day long.

Our most passes of the season with 516. I have a feeling about Gerrard that's similar to 2007. Some things won't come off, we'll lose games, but there's a sense of purpose and direction. It is like that first game with Young and Carew at Newcastle. We lost 3-1, but walked off the ground happy as you could see the bigger picture. This feels the same.

The quality of the structure of our play is as high as its been since then. We pass the ball very well, we have a plan, we create lots of chances and have clear areas we need to improve, but we will.

It's a frustration that we are giving away soft goals every game. Its also a frustration that we are universally punished everytime and others aren't.

But I think we're going places under this manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2022, 09:22:27 AM
Thought they were utterly dominant in the first half but we still had a couple of decent chances to score. For me Mings should have shown a bit more authority in trying to stop the 3 midfielders coming so deep to get the ball, they kept doing it and it meant we lacked numbers further up the pitch and they picked off our forward passes with ease.

Great second half performance and I really liked the look of the three playing behind one striker, I think either Ings and Ollie could prosper in that formation but not both together.

Buendia was excellent and all the back 4 not far behind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ad@m on January 16, 2022, 09:26:33 AM
Quote
As an aside, I wouldn't tire of 90 minutes of him being kicked in the nads. Horrible, snide, whinging player. Have a look for his tantrum when our 2nd goes in.

This. With fucking bells on!

When they, the worst Man U team in living memory, inevitably fail to qualify for Europe they could more than replace the lost commercial revenue by selling tickets to watch that diving, rat-faced little gremlin get kicked up in the air for entertainment purposes.

Twat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 16, 2022, 09:31:58 AM
I got the feeling their dominance in that opening half hour or so was down to how we played, not them. We looked listless, no snap to us, no urgency to second balls, no conviction in getting forward when we did regain possession. That opening goal really poked us back into our shell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 16, 2022, 09:43:49 AM
I'm "at work" in m*nchester. The Full 90 is up on Villa TV. Might give it a watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 16, 2022, 09:46:51 AM
I got the feeling their dominance in that opening half hour or so was down to how we played, not them. We looked listless, no snap to us, no urgency to second balls, no conviction in getting forward when we did regain possession. That opening goal really poked us back into our shell.

Of all the teams for Martinez to chuck one in against, it had to be them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ian. on January 16, 2022, 09:52:12 AM
I got the feeling their dominance in that opening half hour or so was down to how we played, not them. We looked listless, no snap to us, no urgency to second balls, no conviction in getting forward when we did regain possession. That opening goal really poked us back into our shell.

Of all the teams for Martinez to chuck one in against, it had to be them.

Well as we’re never ever going to beat these at home again he might as well have had a clanger against this lot. Still can’t believe he spilled it though, unbelievable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 16, 2022, 09:52:52 AM
I hate Fernandes more than anything else in the sports world including Djokovic. Actually I hate him more than I hate Australian cricketers past or present. Can't say more than that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 16, 2022, 09:55:15 AM
Not sure if it's been debated but was that ball legally played before ****** took it and poked it towards Emi?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 16, 2022, 10:03:50 AM
Not sure if it's been debated but was that ball legally played before ****** took it and poked it towards Emi?

I think it just about rolled one full circumference, I think that’s the law anyhow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 16, 2022, 10:07:16 AM
Not sure if it's been debated but was that ball legally played before ****** took it and poked it towards Emi?

I think it just about rolled one full circumference, I think that’s the law anyhow.


I've had a look this morning, law 13 now only says 'clearly moves', which it did. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 16, 2022, 10:07:54 AM
I hate Fernandes more than anything else in the sports world including Djokovic. Actually I hate him more than I hate Australian cricketers past or present. Can't say more than that.

The low point of his shithousery yesterday was in the second half when he got knocked off the ball around the halfway line and then proceeded to roll around on the floor pretending to be in agony to try and get the game stopped as we were on a dangerous break. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: jwarry on January 16, 2022, 10:08:00 AM
On,y just managed to watch it as our last night.  Thought we were excellent again and undone by two errors.  The thing now is that our weaker players are beginning to become obvious and SG is ruthless enough to replace them so we will get even better.  Those players I think are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going), Doug (but that could be down to him not playing in his best position), Ings (really don’t think he’s good enough for us) and then there is Ollie is clearly out of sorts as nothing is going right for him but I still think he will come good again.  As we know we are after a DM, a CH and a GK it’s clear SG knows all of this already, but I think I would add another striker to this list
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Hillbilly on January 16, 2022, 10:17:22 AM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2022, 10:21:14 AM
I hate Fernandes more than anything else in the sports world including Djokovic. Actually I hate him more than I hate Australian cricketers past or present. Can't say more than that.

The low point of his shithousery yesterday was in the second half when he got knocked off the ball around the halfway line and then proceeded to roll around on the floor pretending to be in agony to try and get the game stopped as we were on a dangerous break. 

As dislikable as he is MOTD showed Doug treading on his leg, don’t think it was intentional but to would have hurt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 16, 2022, 10:23:22 AM
That was the best comeback from a Villa side I've seen for a long time, another 10 minutes and we would have won the match. Both our goals came from excellent team play. Buendia was quality, he's now showing, why we paid £40 million for him and Ramsey outstanding, won't be too long before we see him in an England shirt. As for Phil, well if somebody had told me 2 weeks ago Coutinho would score the equalizer for us against United at the Holte End, I would have told them to book an appointment with a doctor ASAP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: FrankyH on January 16, 2022, 10:45:43 AM
I hate Fernandes more than anything else in the sports world including Djokovic. Actually I hate him more than I hate Australian cricketers past or present. Can't say more than that.

The low point of his shithousery yesterday was in the second half when he got knocked off the ball around the halfway line and then proceeded to roll around on the floor pretending to be in agony to try and get the game stopped as we were on a dangerous break. 

The ultimate punchable face , the weasel faced c*nt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 16, 2022, 10:51:30 AM
Fernandes harassing the 4th official after the game because he thought Buendia 'faked' a head injury so we could potentially make a concussion sub is top-class cuntery.  Emi clearly took a whack from Matic's elbow - not deliberate, just a fact they are so mismatched in height.  Imagine complaining to the officials after a game about a thing that didn't even happen. Twat.  I take comfort in the fact he was so disappointed after the game.

I did wonder watching live if we could replace Emi if he had a head injury, but in the end, we didn't need to, and the break in play actually helped Utd as we were well on top and had momentum going into the last couple of minutes before that.  It was pretty flat after the restart.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 16, 2022, 10:53:33 AM
That was the best comeback from a Villa side I've seen for a long time, another 10 minutes and we would have won the match. Both our goals came from excellent team play. Buendia was quality, he's now showing, why we paid £40 million for him and Ramsey outstanding, won't be too long before we see him in an England shirt. As for Phil, well if somebody had told me 2 weeks ago Coutinho would score the equalizer for us against United at the Holte End, I would have told them to book an appointment with a doctor ASAP.

Imagine being told in August we'd take 4 points off that lot, and that at VP a Brummie product of the academy would score in front of the Holte along with Philippe Coutinho?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 16, 2022, 10:54:05 AM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.
There's a good defender in there but he's been at fault directly on more than one occasion this season. I totally agree that any momentum disappears as soon as he gets the ball. We need someone who moves the ball on much quicker than Tyrone does.
He'd be a good option on the bench but I'm increasingly thinking we need a better first choice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 16, 2022, 11:01:44 AM
I was surprised how many of their lot were leaving before even the 90 minutes were up and the game was still capable of going either way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Ad@m on January 16, 2022, 11:04:50 AM
I was surprised how many of their lot were leaving before even the 90 minutes were up and the game was still capable of going either way.

They needed to catch the last train to Surrey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 16, 2022, 11:11:11 AM
I was surprised how many of their lot were leaving before even the 90 minutes were up and the game was still capable of going either way.
Wasn't just their lot our fans were leaving around us on 87th onwards as well. Always amazed by this when the game is boiling and and could bubble either way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: algy on January 16, 2022, 11:14:53 AM
How big are Bruno Fernandes ears? He must be part Vulcan.
They are not ears, they are labia.
He is a ******, afterall.
Surprised this comment went under the radar. Highly underrated contribution.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: frank black on January 16, 2022, 11:22:23 AM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.

I noticed last night that the crowd were really ramping up the pressure when he was in possession. Not sure he really thrives with thousands of fans barking out their frustrations. But then I can see why as he did get a lot of the ball and looked a little lost as to where to pass it. Personally I still rate him, he could do with some competition for his spot though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: WassallVillain on January 16, 2022, 11:23:53 AM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.
There's a good defender in there but he's been at fault directly on more than one occasion this season. 

As has every other defender in the league.  VAR makes it more difficult as the little pulls and pushes that were once part and parcel of the game can now be game changing incidents. At least for some of the teams. Mings is better than most. I just wish we could see him engaging / challenging the ref a bit more to gain some influence for us. United we’re at it all game yesterday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 16, 2022, 11:28:16 AM
Mings did well in possession yesterday, and carried the ball out showing skills in more than one occasion. There was one poor pass that went straight out but I thought he did well. We definitely need a right footer alongside him though, because trying to get the ball out with two left footers was tricky.

Though I'd also like to note that Hause did contribute a couple of very good long passes forward to Digne.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 16, 2022, 11:28:48 AM
They bossed it for half an hour mainly due to their control of the midfield. We missed Mc Gunn’s energy in that area. Even so, it was abundantly clear we needed to change it. Ings and Watkins together doesn’t work.  One is a good finisher and little else the other is less so but has plenty of energy. These two should be competing for the one position as it proved when it eventually changed. We took the game then.  As others have said, Bundia MOM, Ramsey excellent 2nd half. Sanson good too the bad back for their 2nd apart. Cash too was good….had a mare someone said??? Mings decent overall and a good debut from Digne, he will improve us. Also, a good debut by Coutinho, limbs everywhere when he scored. Message to Villa fans around me, there is no ‘r’ in his name.

The ref was awful.

Fair summary except the last line. For me the ref was excellent and FOR ONCE it was fair and square against these tossers.
agree with you. OT in the cup made a lot of people angry, me included. Depending on your outlook it ranged from dodginess through to incompetency. But you couldn’t really make that claim against the officials today. When the 2nd Man Utd goal went in I was gutted but thought at least we haven’t been robbed today, we’ve been done fair and square.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 16, 2022, 11:32:37 AM
Their first gift - sorry - goal - isn't the ball supposed to move one full rotation before the next player is allowed to play it? Did it fuck! - I had to slow it down to half-speed on MOTD this morning and even then it barely moves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 16, 2022, 11:38:23 AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-news-bruno-fernandes-25957884

And they wonder why they are universally hated.  Also he wasn’t saying how fcuking lucky they were last Monday.
Emi being treated with that elbow to his head actually helped them as it broke up play when we were in ascendancy and they were on the back foot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 16, 2022, 11:38:49 AM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.
There's a good defender in there but he's been at fault directly on more than one occasion this season. I totally agree that any momentum disappears as soon as he gets the ball. We need someone who moves the ball on much quicker than Tyrone does.
He'd be a good option on the bench but I'm increasingly thinking we need a better first choice.
he’s going to be at fault most weeks, because of the quality of the opposition we face, but he did well against Man Utd. They may not be as good as they used to be, but that’s mainly down to their midfield and defence. They can still hurt you upfront.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: KevinGage on January 16, 2022, 12:20:57 PM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.
There's a good defender in there but he's been at fault directly on more than one occasion this season. I totally agree that any momentum disappears as soon as he gets the ball. We need someone who moves the ball on much quicker than Tyrone does.
He'd be a good option on the bench but I'm increasingly thinking we need a better first choice.

Just about every centre half even at the top clubs will be exposed today because of the way the game has changed.

It's no longer two banks of four with two CMS's directly in front, allowing the stoppers to just be stoppers and letting them look faultless.

They tend to plan higher up now and are expected to do more on the ball.

Tyrone can do this. But when he gets caught in possession on occasion it will look ugly. Similar could be said of John Stones at Citeh, Harry Maguire at Man United and so on. Well Harry Maguire just looks ugly full stop, but you get the general idea.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 16, 2022, 12:21:32 PM
Their first gift - sorry - goal - isn't the ball supposed to move one full rotation before the next player is allowed to play it?
Not anymore. That changed a few years ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Richard E on January 16, 2022, 12:33:26 PM
I wouldn’t be too quick in defending the ref - Matic got away with persistent fouling despite already being on a yellow, they got away with flattening Ramsey in the D and the guy who totalled Konsa wasn’t even spoken to.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 16, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
For the amount of ball he has, and the often limited options available, I think Mings's general distribution is excellent, as is his work when he comes forward as he did yesterday to help with the move for our first goal.  His qualities as captain were much in evidence last night I thought, albeit that he could have done better for their second goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 16, 2022, 12:40:00 PM
“…are in trouble are Tyrone (good defender but not good enough with the ball for where we seem to be going)”.

His contribution to the goal suggests he is.
You beat me to it. What a run that was from a centre back. Without it that goal doesn’t happen and we don't get the point we deserved. Brilliant from big Ty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 16, 2022, 12:57:59 PM
I wouldn’t be too quick in defending the ref - Matic got away with persistent fouling despite already being on a yellow, they got away with flattening Ramsey in the D and the guy who totalled Konsa wasn’t even spoken to.

He did let Doug off with the most blatant yellow card ever.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 16, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
I wouldn’t be too quick in defending the ref - Matic got away with persistent fouling despite already being on a yellow, they got away with flattening Ramsey in the D and the guy who totalled Konsa wasn’t even spoken to.

He did let Doug off with the most blatant yellow card ever.

Agreed, the ref wasn't too bad after the first 10-15 mins. Yesterday was the first time since 2015 Yanited failed to win a penalty at Villa Park which is a start. At the very end though he let play go on whilst they were attacking and then blew up as soon as we got it back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 16, 2022, 02:02:14 PM
Typical, on the day that we finally don't get cheated by the refs in this fixture, we go and shoout ourselves in the foot by giving away two terrible goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 16, 2022, 02:06:39 PM
Granted, Sanson's pass sold Mings a bit short but not that... short. Plus it was Fred, surely at worst Mings should have booted Fred and the ball back up towards the other end of the pitch. He just stood still for some reason, didn't even try and force him down the side.

I'm with bronte on this.  Mings was on his heels and coukd have taken Fred out.

Yes he might have given Fred a whack but the goal was not his fault at all.  Watch it again and look for the lack of concentration with Luiz. Mings stood Fred up, which is what classy players are taught. 

My uncle (and subsequently Keane in the studio) thought he should have taken Fred out but that's fine in hindsight. If he fouled Fred and Fernandes had scored from the free kick he'd have been lambasted for jumping in. For me it was the terrible ball to Sanson putting him under unnecessary pressure that was the root of it all.

Lots of positives though, there's a good team in there and when it all clicks we're going to batter one of the more fragile teams we have coming up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: john e on January 16, 2022, 02:37:31 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?

good question
do you know what I think they do, people writing stuff about you I know I would if I’m honest

I’ve often thought I’m going to get a knock on the door one day and find Reo Coker, kourtney Hause, Steve Bruce, Niel Taylor or someone else I’ve said bad things about standing there looking moody

in fairness I’d be putting my running spikes on if it was Kourtney

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Flin5tone on January 16, 2022, 02:48:12 PM
Terrible start to the game and a disaster for Martinez,this is why it's vital we bring in a top shot stopper in this window to keep him on his toes.

Sensational ending to the game and a deserved point. Play like that for 90 minutes and cut out the ridiculous mistakes and we have something special.

Buendia was absolutely superb

Catering slow and awful as usual.

All in all a fantastic evening under the Floodlights at Villa Park
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Border villan on January 16, 2022, 02:48:50 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?

good question
do you know what I think they do, people writing stuff about you I know I would if I’m honest

I’ve often thought I’m going to get a knock on the door one day and find Reo Coker, kourtney Hause, Steve Bruce, Niel Taylor or someone else I’ve said bad things about standing there looking moody

in fairness I’d be putting my running spikes on if it was Kourtney

You would know it was Kourtney from the sound of a car crashing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 16, 2022, 02:49:01 PM
I wouldn’t be too quick in defending the ref - Matic got away with persistent fouling despite already being on a yellow, they got away with flattening Ramsey in the D and the guy who totalled Konsa wasn’t even spoken to.

And although Martinez was at fault for the first goal, Sanson won the ball cleanly for their free kick, if the ref is behind play cant see this, the lino should.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 16, 2022, 02:52:06 PM
Do you really think they read any of this?

good question
do you know what I think they do, people writing stuff about you I know I would if I’m honest

I’ve often thought I’m going to get a knock on the door one day and find Reo Coker, kourtney Hause, Steve Bruce, Niel Taylor or someone else I’ve said bad things about standing there looking moody

in fairness I’d be putting my running spikes on if it was Kourtney

I would have been arrested for my opinions on Graham Turner and Billy McNeil back in the day. Luckily I would have only been tried as a juvenile back then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Cropley10 on January 16, 2022, 03:38:29 PM
Buendia was particularly outstanding and tore Fred a new one! There is a real player there!

One of Watkins and Ings up front from now on is abundantly clear, with Buendia and PC behind.
We still need that quality defensive anchor/cover, if we get one, I can't see a starting place for Douglas Luis ------- but hey, what a squad we're putting together.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on January 16, 2022, 04:21:17 PM
The one thing we are lacking is that bit of quick thinking and being alert all the time, brother pointed it out on one of our three kicks near the end, Martinez speaking to Mings that De Gear was signaling that if he gets the ball he kicking it straight out for the breakaway, free kick taken,De Gea collects and Mings is straight on him to stop him, simple little things make life a lot easier
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: colin69 on January 16, 2022, 05:59:39 PM
Poor first half but great second half.
I’ve not been a fan of Buendia but I hold my hands up he was mostly superb yesterday apart from the odd misplaced pass or through ball.
Ings on the other hand just doesn’t fit into our team with Watkins as showed when he went off.
Ramsey was brilliant and has really cemented his place. Sanson was poor for me and we really missed McGinn.
Digne certainly looked an upgrade on Targett and Coutinho looked class.
A top class DM and we will be a very decent side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 16, 2022, 06:19:15 PM
Mings did well in possession yesterday, and carried the ball out showing skills in more than one occasion. There was one poor pass that went straight out but I thought he did well. We definitely need a right footer alongside him though, because trying to get the ball out with two left footers was tricky.

Though I'd also like to note that Hause did contribute a couple of very good long passes forward to Digne.

I remember that Mings pass that went straight out.  It's like he passed to where Targett usually is using muscle memory, completely unaware Digne was 15 yards further forward pushing onto their full-back
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 16, 2022, 11:08:45 PM
Mings did well in possession yesterday, and carried the ball out showing skills in more than one occasion. There was one poor pass that went straight out but I thought he did well. We definitely need a right footer alongside him though, because trying to get the ball out with two left footers was tricky.

Though I'd also like to note that Hause did contribute a couple of very good long passes forward to Digne.

I remember that Mings pass that went straight out.  It's like he passed to where Targett usually is using muscle memory, completely unaware Digne was 15 yards further forward pushing onto their full-back

Yep that one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LamBeast on January 16, 2022, 11:32:32 PM
Defend your box,otherwise happy🦁
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 17, 2022, 08:17:44 AM
Defend your box,otherwise happy🦁
I always do
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 17, 2022, 08:45:04 AM
Mings did well in possession yesterday, and carried the ball out showing skills in more than one occasion. There was one poor pass that went straight out but I thought he did well. We definitely need a right footer alongside him though, because trying to get the ball out with two left footers was tricky.

Though I'd also like to note that Hause did contribute a couple of very good long passes forward to Digne.

I remember that Mings pass that went straight out.  It's like he passed to where Targett usually is using muscle memory, completely unaware Digne was 15 yards further forward pushing onto their full-back

Yep that one.

I often wonder if the animated advertising boards don't help whenever I see a pass that bad which goes straight out
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 17, 2022, 09:00:46 AM
Mings did well in possession yesterday, and carried the ball out showing skills in more than one occasion. There was one poor pass that went straight out but I thought he did well. We definitely need a right footer alongside him though, because trying to get the ball out with two left footers was tricky.

Though I'd also like to note that Hause did contribute a couple of very good long passes forward to Digne.

I remember that Mings pass that went straight out.  It's like he passed to where Targett usually is using muscle memory, completely unaware Digne was 15 yards further forward pushing onto their full-back

Yep that one.

I often wonder if the animated advertising boards don't help whenever I see a pass that bad which goes straight out

Listened to a podcast yesterday in which the guy said the advertising boards caused more problems for the Man Utd defence than Danny Ings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on January 17, 2022, 11:16:03 AM
Poor first half but great second half.
I’ve not been a fan of Buendia but I hold my hands up he was mostly superb yesterday apart from the odd misplaced pass or through ball.
Ings on the other hand just doesn’t fit into our team with Watkins as showed when he went off.
Ramsey was brilliant and has really cemented his place. Sanson was poor for me and we really missed McGinn.
Digne certainly looked an upgrade on Targett and Coutinho looked class.
A top class DM and we will be a very decent side.

Really have to disagree here. In the first half he was the better of the midfield 3 by a mile, was combative and always showed for the ball and broke the lines, carried the ball well also. Seemed to tire a little after 60 minutes but makes sense given lack of minutes on the pitch and the mistake was partly a result of that IMO.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on January 17, 2022, 02:04:35 PM
Defend your box,otherwise happy🦁
I always do

I'm very careful in that area too!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 17, 2022, 02:22:25 PM
Brilliant interview from our new manager.

He's fucking brilliant. I could listen to him all night.

100% this

So articulate and inspiring that he will just not stand for mediocre
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 17, 2022, 04:46:01 PM
I didn't celebrate the first goal as I fully expected VAR to go back to Luiz "stamp" on ****** and disallow it. It was only 10 minutes earlier.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 17, 2022, 04:58:04 PM
I only realised after the game on Saturday that I didn't notice any of their fans in the home areas when either of their goals went in. One of the many positives of having a lengthy season ticket waiting list.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 17, 2022, 05:05:41 PM
I only realised after the game on Saturday that I didn't notice any of their fans in the home areas when either of their goals went in. One of the many positives of having a lengthy season ticket waiting list.

Yep thinking back to 20 years ago virtually the whole of the Witton Lane would be celebrating their goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 17, 2022, 06:27:42 PM
Great that someone has called out the rat faced weasel.

Even if he does mean portrays.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-legend-25971511
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 17, 2022, 06:45:13 PM
He’s a really good footballer who has a massively inflated sense of self worth. To him his shit doesn’t stink. I imagine he’s a wanker just to be around at Man U and Parker is suggesting that. Proper Billy Big Bollocks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 17, 2022, 08:55:22 PM
I only realised after the game on Saturday that I didn't notice any of their fans in the home areas when either of their goals went in. One of the many positives of having a lengthy season ticket waiting list.
Yes this was very obvious this time. Dozens of Brummie reds had not managed to get in. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 17, 2022, 08:58:17 PM
He’s a really good footballer who has a massively inflated sense of self worth. To him his shit doesn’t stink. I imagine he’s a wanker just to be around at Man U and Parker is suggesting that. Proper Billy Big Bollocks.





i don’t even think he is that good,  he goes missing in a lot of the big games
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 17, 2022, 11:20:27 PM
Defend your box,otherwise happy🦁
I always do

I'm very careful in that area too!
As the actress said to the Bishop!

Two days after the game, and I'm still smiling at that equaliser...
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 17, 2022, 11:23:07 PM
Defend your box,otherwise happy🦁
I always do

I'm very careful in that area too!
As the actress said to the Bishop!

Two days after the game, and I'm still smiling at that equaliser...

yes we don’t normally do that against them
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2022, 08:30:16 AM
Probably the most satisfying draw I've ever witnessed from the Villa. How many times have they done exactly that to so many teams over the years? Remember the Villa Park night game when we self imploded at 2-0 up with not long to go and those bastards got the winner in injury time then  celebrated joyously on our pitch which to this day boils my piss. Vidic jumping into their fans and not getting booked. Well it felt like payback time on Saturday which was all the more painful for them because their arch enemy Steven Gerrard ran the touchline giving it loads after an ex Liverpool player slammed the equaliser in. Poetic justice at it's absolute finest. Can Steven Gerrard go from being their arch enemy to become their arch nemesis? Time will tell but it's a nice thought on a cold and frosty morning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 18, 2022, 08:37:02 AM
As the lady who sits behind me and she goes to every home and away game commented at the end of the game “we could not even beat their C team”

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2022, 08:58:40 AM
As the lady who sits behind me and she goes to every home and away game commented at the end of the game “we could not even beat their C team”
Was she at Old Trafford on September 25th when we beat their A team?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 18, 2022, 09:17:48 AM
Maybe someone should have mentioned this to Joe Root
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 18, 2022, 09:32:40 AM
He’s a really good footballer who has a massively inflated sense of self worth. To him his shit doesn’t stink. I imagine he’s a wanker just to be around at Man U and Parker is suggesting that. Proper Billy Big Bollocks.





i don’t even think he is that good,  he goes missing in a lot of the big games

He's a ******. My least favourite footballer, currently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 18, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
He’s a really good footballer who has a massively inflated sense of self worth. To him his shit doesn’t stink. I imagine he’s a wanker just to be around at Man U and Parker is suggesting that. Proper Billy Big Bollocks.





i don’t even think he is that good,  he goes missing in a lot of the big games

He's a ******. My least favourite footballer, currently.

He's close to taking over Robbie Savage as the my most hated player ever.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 18, 2022, 10:24:32 AM
Can Steven Gerrard go from being their arch enemy to become their arch nemesis? Time will tell but it's a nice thought on a cold and frosty morning.

Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cant... me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 18, 2022, 10:52:55 AM
You're a defender aint you Tyrone.

Course I am.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2022, 11:04:16 AM
Can Steven Gerrard go from being their arch enemy to become their arch nemesis? Time will tell but it's a nice thought on a cold and frosty morning.

Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cant... me.
One who inflicts retribution and vengeance. That's what I'm hoping Gerrard does to Yanited
Nemesis: The Greek goddess of retriburive justice. (OK I googled that) but I'm hoping for retriburive justice against those tossers so Steven can be our Greek goddess if he wants.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 18, 2022, 11:09:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/60F8hfg.jpeg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 18, 2022, 11:10:00 AM
You're a defender aint you Tyrone.

Course I am.

 ;D

Get-away driver par excellence !
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/60F8hfg.jpeg)
That went straight over my head 😒 it's from a film I'm guessing
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 18, 2022, 11:52:19 AM
Yes. Snatch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2022, 12:05:12 PM
Yes. Snatch.
Oh yes of course it is. I'm more awake now I've had a couple of cups of coffee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Scovilla on January 18, 2022, 12:10:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/60F8hfg.jpeg)
That went straight over my head 😒 it's from a film I'm guessing
D'you take sugar?
No,I'm sweet enough!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 18, 2022, 12:14:04 PM
Great that someone has called out the rat faced weasel.

Even if he does mean portrays.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-legend-25971511

Bruno Fernandes looks like a cross between Mr Spock and Freddie Mercury when he was ill.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 18, 2022, 01:06:22 PM
I really hope that Luiz actually meant to stand on Ratboys leg its just a pity it was not his throat
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Eckybloke on January 18, 2022, 03:53:15 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: supertom on January 18, 2022, 06:39:58 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Sublime. A perfect encapsulation of their fanbase too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 18, 2022, 07:06:00 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Sublime. A perfect encapsulation of their fanbase too.

One had a Manc accent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 18, 2022, 07:20:53 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Sublime. A perfect encapsulation of their fanbase too.

One had a Manc accent.


that is brilliant but why would you put yourself through that and who watches that during a game 😃
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 18, 2022, 07:23:18 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Sublime. A perfect encapsulation of their fanbase too.

One had a Manc accent.

All of them complete and utter *****, two of the black guys weren’t too bad to be fair but you do see the underlying sense of their entitlement because of who they are. Another few seasons of mediocrity and they’ll be off doing something else.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Nev on January 18, 2022, 07:23:36 PM
Fuck me, I couldn't get beyond two minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 18, 2022, 07:28:02 PM
Its no Davos Diary.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 18, 2022, 07:42:31 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Brilliant!

Thanks for sharing!
UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 18, 2022, 07:49:05 PM
Fuck me what a bunch of self opionated, arrogant fuckwits

Yep definitely genuine MUFC followers.

I worked up there for many years and I have never been able to have a honest football discussion with a single one of them. The further from Manchester the worse they are.

And they think it's jealousy that makes everyone hate them

Total pricks. That woman "Ramsey, he always scores against us" they know fuck all about football unless it's sky / the Sun blowing smoke up thier arses.

They are actually lower in my eyes than any nose or bitter

Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 18, 2022, 07:49:07 PM
20 minutes but worth every minute (https://youtu.be/zmagWTjsbFU)
Sublime. A perfect encapsulation of their fanbase too.

One had a Manc accent.

Did he/she? I was too busy laughing to hear.

What type of self promoting moron does this type of thing? Do these people not have friends? Do they really think this is in anyway sane? If I did this my friends would have me sectioned. I realise I’m a veritable grandad compared to the Yoot and their Insta and YT influencing but fuck me there are some idiots in this world.

Then again it stops them playing with traffic or licking windows so I suppose we should be grateful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 18, 2022, 07:52:16 PM
It's because nowadays they all think they are one social media account away from untold riches.
Unfortunately there are a lot of rich morons out there giving them inspiration
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 18, 2022, 08:19:56 PM
Fuck me, I couldn't get beyond two minutes.

Same here, cretins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 18, 2022, 08:31:34 PM
I would like to clarify that I’ve no objection to people doing YT vlog stuff either pre or post match as it gives a fan view of things you wouldn’t get from mainstream media but put some production and editing values in people. As AFTV are finding out poor editorial control of your content leads to some pretty ropey views and people.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 18, 2022, 08:38:46 PM
As AFTV are finding out poor editorial control of your content leads to some pretty ropey views and people.

Not Good enough is it? ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 18, 2022, 08:41:23 PM
It's because nowadays they all think they are one social media account away from untold riches.
Unfortunately there are a lot of rich morons out there giving them inspiration

They also think it's a short cut to a job in the grown-up media.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 2-2 Bogey Team Utd post match thread
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 23, 2022, 11:47:34 PM
Great comeback. As some on here have said, a pity there wasn't another ten minutes to go and we might have been celebrating the end of the curse. Still, this'll do for now.

And what a player Jacob Ramsey has become. I thought he'd be a good player, but not this!!
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