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Title: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 12, 2022, 07:34:19 PM
Saturday 15th January, kick off 17:30.

I think it is time for the thread now. As good a chance as we've had to end this dreadful run against them.

Going for 2-1 Villa.

FTF.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 12, 2022, 07:44:10 PM
McGinn suspended but two of their "hard men" are out in Shaw and McTominay.

Coutinho arriving, a 5.30 kick-off and Villa Park still seething after Monday so should be a good atmosphere as we give them a long overdue smashing that even VAR can't save them from. FTPF!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 12, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
Meatball out might be a blessing. He's not fluid enough sometimes when we try and transition forwards quickly. Get Sanson in for him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: spk on January 12, 2022, 08:01:03 PM
 Oldest thread in the world here, but I hate this lot so much if Blues are playing them, I want Blues to win. Please please smash these horrible corrupt barstewards out the park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 12, 2022, 08:08:43 PM
Is Ashley Young available for this game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on January 12, 2022, 08:10:47 PM
David Coote in middle with Mike Dean on VAR
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 12, 2022, 08:15:51 PM
Watkins

Ramsey - Carney - Buendia

Douglas - Sanson

Digne - Mings - Konsa - Cash

Martinez

 8)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 12, 2022, 08:50:42 PM
David Coote in middle with Mike Dean on VAR

For real?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 12, 2022, 08:53:38 PM
                    Martinez

Cash    konsa    mings     digne

                   Luiz

Sansom                      Ramsey

Buendia      Watkins        Coutiniho
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 12, 2022, 09:02:01 PM
We have to be better in terms of not giving the ball away cheaply, concentrating for 90+ minutes at the back and be more ruthless up front.
But I still have serious doubts it will be decided fairly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 12, 2022, 09:17:07 PM
Is Ashley Young available for this game?

Cup/League-tied.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on January 12, 2022, 09:19:44 PM
David Coote in middle with Mike Dean on VAR

For real?
Yes …. Looking at referee appointments
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 12, 2022, 09:28:15 PM
Had a nose into one of their forums called Red Cafe. I was amazed how many of them think they're going to lose. Some saying they will get battered. Hope they're right of course but they must know from donkeys years of playing us at VP they always find a way to beat us though more recently its more through the help of biased officials as opposed to them battering us legit. One sad little blue nose on there begging them to beat us idiots. I don't know whether to laugh at them or pity them sometimes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 12, 2022, 09:30:46 PM
                    Martinez

Cash    konsa    mings     digne

                   Luiz

Sansom                      Ramsey

Buendia      Watkins        Coutiniho

If all signed in time and fit enough, this is the team id go for. If Coutiniho cant last the whole game, id rather he started and went off than other way round. Its going to be noisy and lively from the start on Saturday and he’ll be a major part of this.
If we make the most of the atmosphere and start quickly, i honestly think we can batter this lot.
3-0 (Watkins, Beundia, Coutinihio).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 12, 2022, 10:01:08 PM
Is Ashley Young available for this game?

Cup/League-tied.

Say what?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: LeonW on January 12, 2022, 10:04:24 PM
Apart from Sanson for McGinn (and Digne for Targett if he is signed in time), I'd go with the same line up from Monday with Coutinho off the bench. Let them try and get revenge first.

Oh and I'd be making sure all the players know that they have to get onto the officials from minute 1. No meek acceptance of decisions again. Draw attention to things.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre match thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on January 12, 2022, 10:06:45 PM
Marcus Rashford has been in terrible form, looks disinterested and has been getting stick in the press .... that's 0-1.
They didn't get a penalty on Monday, and Fernandes has been in terrible form, looks disinterested and has been getting stick in the press .... that's 0-2. (0-3 if he smashes the ball in the net again in celebration and VaR decide to award him a second goal.)

So we need to score at least 2 to get a draw, 3 for a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 12, 2022, 10:18:46 PM
A difficult one to predict because var and dodgy refs usually have the edge over us when playing these and others like them.
Obviously hoping for a win, but won't be surprised if controversy decides this one again at our expense.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 12, 2022, 10:21:10 PM
I'd start Coutinho. Should get 60 minutes out of him. THink it would massively lift the crowd at the start and could be similar to when we signed Bent and he scored on his debut v Man. City.

Digne will start if signed in time which looks very likely now.

Fancy a 3-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 12, 2022, 10:30:18 PM
A difficult one to predict because var and dodgy refs usually have the edge over us when playing these and others like them.
Obviously hoping for a win, but won't be surprised if controversy decides this one again at our expense.

I think it would be a brave ref that gives them a dodgy pen on Sat. I'd imagine the atmosphere will turn pretty hostile if he does.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 12, 2022, 10:35:54 PM
No chance Coutinho starts imo. I don't know anything but he's been out for ages. Needs to be phased in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on January 12, 2022, 10:44:56 PM
After Monday I'd actually take being beaten by the footballers rather than the officials via VAR.

Having said that we are good enough to get the win but I have a nagging doubt they will play better than they have for a while. Villa Park will be a bear pit and add in the presence of the new player a moral and deserved victory is in the offing.

2-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 12, 2022, 10:47:04 PM
No chance Coutinho starts imo. I don't know anything but he's been out for ages. Needs to be phased in.

Has he been on the bench for Barca or totally frozen out? He will at least have 3-4 training sessions with us.

Don't think Digne has played for Everton since November and I'd expect him to start once the signing is confirmed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on January 12, 2022, 11:13:23 PM
Plucky DeniedbyVARAston Villa 0 YetanotherpenaltytoManchester United 2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 12, 2022, 11:28:38 PM
No chance Coutinho starts imo. I don't know anything but he's been out for ages. Needs to be phased in.

Has he been on the bench for Barca or totally frozen out? He will at least have 3-4 training sessions with us.

Don't think Digne has played for Everton since November and I'd expect him to start once the signing is confirmed.

Dunno lolz.

Just don't see him starting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 13, 2022, 12:01:34 AM
This is the fucking game. For the first time in 26.5 years I'll walk back out of Villa Park having seen us beat these twats in the league. It's happening.

I think we're vastly superior in the midfield with our pressing, passing and mobility and without their best player, McTominey, I think they'll be even weaker.

Gerrard to have them fired up, the crowd to be fired up, early goals and we run them over like a fucking train.

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Diane

Dougie
Ramsey
Sanson

Countinho
Buendia
Watkins

Smash these fucks into next week.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 13, 2022, 12:02:02 AM
5-1.

Coutinho with all 5.

An Irwin penalty for them. After a VAR check..
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 13, 2022, 12:51:34 AM
Is Ronaldo back for them? He'll find a way to score despite half-arsing it and eye-rolling at his shit teammates.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 13, 2022, 12:52:12 AM
No chance Coutinho starts imo. I don't know anything but he's been out for ages. Needs to be phased in.

I'm surprised. You've been smirking about his arrival for the past week!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: JD on January 13, 2022, 05:47:43 AM
3-1 to Villa. FTF'kers
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 13, 2022, 06:50:07 AM
Similar result to August 1995 - 3-1 (not sure which team will score the 3)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 13, 2022, 07:59:31 AM
This is the fucking game. For the first time in 26.5 years I'll walk back out of Villa Park having seen us beat these twats in the league. It's happening.

I think we're vastly superior in the midfield with our pressing, passing and mobility and without their best player, McTominey, I think they'll be even weaker.

Gerrard to have them fired up, the crowd to be fired up, early goals and we run them over like a fucking train.

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Diane

Dougie
Ramsey
Sanson

Countinho
Buendia
Watkins

Smash these fucks into next week.



Diane.

Love the new nickname.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 13, 2022, 08:12:51 AM
My concern is that if  / when we lose that is 4 on this spin and the feel good factor of SG will be slipping away

We need to win this for that reason not just because of the cheating cnuts we are playing are owed it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: sickbeggar on January 13, 2022, 09:26:47 AM
I do actually fancy us. VAR is aware of all the flack they've got so being a completely biased system that reacts to public opinion rather than the decisions presented I don't think they're gonna give Man U anything iffy. 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 13, 2022, 09:39:02 AM
I suspect they may not be as poor again, and we didn't win when we dominated them (VAR accepted). So although we should have extra motivation to win, that needs to be channelled properly as it won't be enough to win on its own.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 13, 2022, 09:40:11 AM
I think we need to be less sloppy also .  I think we can play better as well .  a draw me thinks
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 13, 2022, 09:42:37 AM
I've read a few posts recently containing the phrase 'methinks'.

Do we not have mods anymore?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 13, 2022, 09:45:55 AM
I've read a few posts recently containing the phrase 'methinks'.

Do we not have mods anymore?

Methinks they may be busy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 13, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
I've read a few posts recently containing the phrase 'methinks'.

Do we not have mods anymore?

Methinks they may be busy.


apologises,  my bad   :-\ :D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 13, 2022, 09:51:48 AM
Don’t see either of our new signings starting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 13, 2022, 09:54:55 AM
Heart says we'll finally smash that Man Yoo hoodoo, head says it'll be another dubious decision or a smug Ronaldo injury time equaliser/winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 13, 2022, 10:16:12 AM
This is the fucking game. For the first time in 26.5 years I'll walk back out of Villa Park having seen us beat these twats in the league. It's happening.

I think we're vastly superior in the midfield with our pressing, passing and mobility and without their best player, McTominey, I think they'll be even weaker.

Gerrard to have them fired up, the crowd to be fired up, early goals and we run them over like a fucking train.

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Diane


Diane.

Love the new nickname.

Spot on as usual by Ads.

"Sometimes it only takes one person from outside to destroy a beautiful love affair" is clearly a reference to the 'People's Princess' and Camilla Parker Bowles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 13, 2022, 10:22:00 AM
The back four will be deeper and the offside trap goes out of the window, as Diane holds the line like a candle in the wind
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 13, 2022, 10:38:53 AM
We did alright the other night but still came up short. I'd take s point in truth. Preferably not as a result of a last minute equaliser from them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 13, 2022, 03:05:08 PM
I suspect they may not be as poor again, and we didn't win when we dominated them (VAR accepted). So although we should have extra motivation to win, that needs to be channelled properly as it won't be enough to win on its own.

They haven’t just been bad against us, losing to Wolves 1-0, a lucky draw against a pretty awful Newcastle side, there will be other recent games I’ve no doubt missed.
But this is just as much about us, although there is a reasonable gap in league position and points, do you believe they are that much superior to us across their main 11. With the addition of our two new signings i honestly don’t.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: cdward on January 13, 2022, 03:51:07 PM
This is the season we do the league double over them.
Villa win.
With a point to prove after the defeat on Monday, under the lights, the new signings.
It will be a great night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 13, 2022, 04:03:58 PM
I don't think they're gonna give Man U anything iffy.
[/quote]

I’ll have some of what you’re drinking/smoking/both!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Stu on January 13, 2022, 04:42:04 PM
Having been to every home game at VP against these arseholes since 1999 to 2010, the following events occur when PGMOL want to give man u a Holywood game:

- A Villa player in an area of the pitch that will see lots of play will get booked in the opening 10-15 mins. The centre half say, or a midfielder.

- Similar challenges by man u players will not be carded.

- They will be awarded most 50/50's.

- Any free kicks you do get will be in your own half

- At around the 70th minute, one of their players will be booked

- They will be awarded a penalty

- We will be told we only have ourselves to blame
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 13, 2022, 05:04:54 PM
No chance Coutinho starts imo. I don't know anything but he's been out for ages. Needs to be phased in.

I'm surprised. You've been smirking about his arrival for the past week!

 8)

Best he comes off the bench when we're 2-0 up with fifteen to go, imo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 13, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
No double against these lot since the 50's. It about time so please Villa, smash these chumps.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on January 13, 2022, 08:02:29 PM
These arseholes are going to get what’s been coming to them for a very, very long time. 5-0 and that’s only because we will declare after 75 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on January 13, 2022, 08:17:50 PM
For the first time in ages we're the better team. We've shown that twice at Old Trafford this season so with a ridiculously hostile Villa Park crowd we'll be ok. The score is irrelevant. Just win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 13, 2022, 08:21:28 PM
to much confidence on this thread for this game

we are playing Man Utd spawniest jamiest luckiest team of all times
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 13, 2022, 08:31:08 PM
At least this tw@t won't be at the game. I assume he's a 'Devon Red' but could be a Villa fan given his name.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-59985163
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 13, 2022, 08:35:45 PM
to much confidence on this thread for this game

we are playing Man Utd spawniest jamiest luckiest team of all times

I think its a simmering rage rather than confidence. I don't normally look forward to this game. But I feel like we're playing the Noses or the Tesco Bags on the weekend.

Knowing Gerrard is a bit of a nutter, I think the players will be wound up and just as annoyed as us. It's happening, we're going to go through then like a fucking train.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 13, 2022, 08:47:41 PM
I like the fact that Gerrard has the look of an absolute head case in his eyes. I think Terry was like that to. You don’t need it to be at the top but it helps when your desire to win is more than those around you or who you compete against. But it doesn’t make a top manager and he needs to learn all of the other required skills and traits of coaching and man management. Because if all it take was to be mental, Roy Keane would be winning everything.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 13, 2022, 08:56:01 PM
Manure line up:
DeGea
Dalot, Lidaelof, McGuire, Varane
Fred, Beek, Fernandes
Greenwood, Cavani, Ronaldo
Coote, Dean

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 13, 2022, 09:14:54 PM
Yanited line-up as expected although Dean will be at the back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 13, 2022, 09:38:23 PM
One less Twat for Saturday.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/racist-football-thug-exeter-jailed-6487975?fbclid=IwAR0jLJ0X6mhluFJatp5BMSwVXEAJBrBfcFyBQox9ggOnA79odDSXjqrMYy4
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 14, 2022, 07:05:34 AM
And in traffic news... There's repairs to a burst water main on Lichfield Road at Aston Cross, there's currently no through traffic along there between the roundabouts* at Park Lane and Waterlinks Boulevard.

*given the amount of water there yesterday morning, 'island' would actually have been the correct term.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 14, 2022, 07:19:52 AM
Not many happy memories of playing these. The 3-1 win and the 3-0 Boxing day game seeing Kevin Gage drill in that fine finish from the edge of the box in front of a packed Holte End.
Tomorrow is our time and will be something to enjoy.
2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 14, 2022, 07:39:28 AM
One less Twat for Saturday.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/racist-football-thug-exeter-jailed-6487975?fbclid=IwAR0jLJ0X6mhluFJatp5BMSwVXEAJBrBfcFyBQox9ggOnA79odDSXjqrMYy4
Sounds like a nasty pos. Doesn't say who he supports hopefully he's one of theirs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 14, 2022, 07:48:57 AM
This is the biggest game in football for me, I’ve seen some great games down the years. Beating them means more to me than beating Birmingham. 2-0 to us and we’ll play them off the park. As usual I don’t care who scores
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: sickbeggar on January 14, 2022, 08:19:35 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: cannock villa on January 14, 2022, 08:22:53 AM
Far to much confidence on here. You do all realize we are playing Manure at Villa Park ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 14, 2022, 08:28:54 AM
Yep. They're shit. Attitudes like that is why they've turned up and beaten us so regularly for 25 years.

They're nothing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 14, 2022, 08:42:34 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
That's exactly how I saw it. We were all justifiably raging at var for blatantly robbing us of a goal and he probably was too. But he preferred to highlight the fact that we had every opportunity to win the game if we had turned our dominant periods in the game into goals. Also he mentioned us conceding goals too easily which has got to stop. I like that. I like that attitude 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: cannock villa on January 14, 2022, 08:55:47 AM
Yep. They're shit. Attitudes like that is why they've turned up and beaten us so regularly for 25 years.

They're nothing.
Doesn't matter, we could be Brazil 1970 and they could be Sam Marino, it is set in stone we will never beat them ay Villa Park ever again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 14, 2022, 09:21:38 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
That's exactly how I saw it. We were all justifiably raging at var for blatantly robbing us of a goal and he probably was too. But he preferred to highlight the fact that we had every opportunity to win the game if we had turned our dominant periods in the game into goals. Also he mentioned us conceding goals too easily which has got to stop. I like that. I like that attitude 

It's a very fair point. If Konsa and Mings hadn't defended like drains, and if Watkins could finish, we'd have been out of sight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 14, 2022, 09:48:02 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
That's exactly how I saw it. We were all justifiably raging at var for blatantly robbing us of a goal and he probably was too. But he preferred to highlight the fact that we had every opportunity to win the game if we had turned our dominant periods in the game into goals. Also he mentioned us conceding goals too easily which has got to stop. I like that. I like that attitude 

It's a very fair point. If Konsa and Mings hadn't defended like drains, and if Watkins could finish, we'd have been out of sight.
All very good points which is why I wonder how so many on here would rather play Watkins ahead of Ings ??
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 14, 2022, 09:58:33 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
That's exactly how I saw it. We were all justifiably raging at var for blatantly robbing us of a goal and he probably was too. But he preferred to highlight the fact that we had every opportunity to win the game if we had turned our dominant periods in the game into goals. Also he mentioned us conceding goals too easily which has got to stop. I like that. I like that attitude 

It's a very fair point. If Konsa and Mings hadn't defended like drains, and if Watkins could finish, we'd have been out of sight.
All very good points which is why I wonder how so many on here would rather play Watkins ahead of Ings ??

Because we're a better team when he plays, and he's a better player than Danny Ings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 14, 2022, 10:14:43 AM
Yep. They're shit. Attitudes like that is why they've turned up and beaten us so regularly for 25 years.

They're nothing.
Doesn't matter, we could be Brazil 1970 and they could be Sam Marino, it is set in stone we will never beat them ay Villa Park ever again.

You prove my point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: exigo on January 14, 2022, 10:25:55 AM
22 home games without a win against this lot. The longest winless home record in English football league history apparently.
And it gets destroyed tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 14, 2022, 10:28:13 AM
I'm looking forward to this game we are going to beat this lot 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 14, 2022, 10:33:10 AM
Yep. They're shit. Attitudes like that is why they've turned up and beaten us so regularly for 25 years.

They're nothing.

It’s not a case of being better than United though is it
You can have all the confidence you want I also believe we will be the better team tomorrow

But it’s not Man United I’m worried about it’s the officials
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 14, 2022, 10:52:38 AM
This is the biggest game in football for me, I’ve seen some great games down the years. Beating them means more to me than beating Birmingham. 2-0 to us and we’ll play them off the park. As usual I don’t care who scores
Same here Allan. I am surrounded by their GHs in and around the family and I hate them all with venom. (family reds that is)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on January 14, 2022, 11:00:53 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
That's exactly how I saw it. We were all justifiably raging at var for blatantly robbing us of a goal and he probably was too. But he preferred to highlight the fact that we had every opportunity to win the game if we had turned our dominant periods in the game into goals. Also he mentioned us conceding goals too easily which has got to stop. I like that. I like that attitude 

It's a very fair point. If Konsa and Mings hadn't defended like drains, and if Watkins could finish, we'd have been out of sight.
All very good points which is why I wonder how so many on here would rather play Watkins ahead of Ings ??

Because we're a better team when he plays, and he's a better player than Danny Ings.

Agreed, and although Watkins should have scored when he hit the bar, I doubt Ings would have got himself into that situation in the first place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 14, 2022, 11:07:13 AM
Just sort out the profligate finishing, wayward passing and duff defending and we'll keep the media storm on them . I like to think Gerrard's playing down of VAR was partly because he was pissed off at the fact it shouldn't have mattered given our dominance.
That's exactly how I saw it. We were all justifiably raging at var for blatantly robbing us of a goal and he probably was too. But he preferred to highlight the fact that we had every opportunity to win the game if we had turned our dominant periods in the game into goals. Also he mentioned us conceding goals too easily which has got to stop. I like that. I like that attitude 

It's a very fair point. If Konsa and Mings hadn't defended like drains, and if Watkins could finish, we'd have been out of sight.
All very good points which is why I wonder how so many on here would rather play Watkins ahead of Ings ??

At the moment, our nominated centre-forward still plays most of the time with their back to goal, and Watkins is better at that. If we do go with twin '10s' and we can pull it off and do start seeing a greater number of clearer chances being created, I'd rather see Ings on the end of them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: OCD on January 14, 2022, 11:16:03 AM
Not to sound too Kevin Keegan but I would love it if we beat these fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 14, 2022, 11:21:12 AM
Not to sound too Kevin Keegan but I would love it if we beat these fuckers.

We should be beating them. This is a dreadful Man United team, getting worse by the game. Id definitely start with both Digne and Coutinho, give the team a real boost.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 14, 2022, 11:30:12 AM
Agreed, and although Watkins should have scored when he hit the bar, I doubt Ings would have got himself into that situation in the first place.

That's what I thought too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 11:52:52 AM
I'd like to see us line up like this:

                        Watkins
          Coutinho            Buendia

    Ramsey            Luiz            Sanson

Digne         Mings           Konsa          Cash

                         Martinez
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 14, 2022, 12:07:18 PM
I'd play Ings over Watkins for this one, but otherwise the same team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 14, 2022, 12:18:11 PM
I'd play Ings over Watkins for this one, but otherwise the same team.

Not sure. Ollie is as we know inconsistent finisher but his movement and chasing will certainly unsettle their CBs. Ings I just don't see having same impact and he's constantly on periphery of the match.

If we start with Countinho we need a forward who can create space centrally for them to run into so think Ollie is better bet for that.

Interesting call for the manager. Getting in Phil makes it much less likely we'll be starting two strikers for rest of the season imo especially as we should get a DM in this window.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: mrfuse on January 14, 2022, 12:27:32 PM
Not to sound too Kevin Keegan but I would love it if we beat these fuckers.

We should be beating them. This is a dreadful Man United team, getting worse by the game. Id definitely start with both Digne and Coutinho, give the team a real boost.

They are for the taking.

Not just beating them but absolutely smashing them, I want us to embarrass them so badly.

Also its about time we had new signings that hit ground running on their debuts. It might be my selective memory but it does feel like more often than not our signings are never up to speed and have to settle in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 14, 2022, 12:43:45 PM
Something to do pre-match if you're having a dry January.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/14/villa-to-unveil-new-champions-of-europe-tribute/
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 14, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
Not to sound too Kevin Keegan but I would love it if we beat these fuckers.

We should be beating them. This is a dreadful Man United team, getting worse by the game. Id definitely start with both Digne and Coutinho, give the team a real boost.
Are they match ready though?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 12:47:59 PM
Something to do pre-match if you're having a dry January.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/14/villa-to-unveil-new-champions-of-europe-tribute/
I'm glad they're doing this but surely it should be 12 players not 11?  Rimmer contributed massievly to us winning the European cip and should be honoured too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on January 14, 2022, 01:00:26 PM
This is the biggest game in football for me, I’ve seen some great games down the years. Beating them means more to me than beating Birmingham. 2-0 to us and we’ll play them off the park. As usual I don’t care who scores

Just over 52 years ago. Andy Lochhead and Pat McMahon. Attendance 58,667.

https://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-manchester-united-23-december-1970-29251/ (https://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-manchester-united-23-december-1970-29251/)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: CT Villan on January 14, 2022, 01:35:27 PM
I'm still bitter from the Cup and I hope that all of the years of suspect officiating are corrected in one ninety minute period tomorrow at VP and we smash 'em.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 14, 2022, 01:36:36 PM
This is the biggest game in football for me, I’ve seen some great games down the years. Beating them means more to me than beating Birmingham. 2-0 to us and we’ll play them off the park. As usual I don’t care who scores

Just over 52 years ago. Andy Lochhead and Pat McMahon. Attendance 58,667.

https://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-manchester-united-23-december-1970-29251/ (https://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-manchester-united-23-december-1970-29251/)
My first Villa-MU game, my dad never stopped talking about it till the day he died.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on January 14, 2022, 01:39:13 PM
This is the biggest game in football for me, I’ve seen some great games down the years. Beating them means more to me than beating Birmingham. 2-0 to us and we’ll play them off the park. As usual I don’t care who scores

Just over 52 years ago. Andy Lochhead and Pat McMahon. Attendance 58,667.

https://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-manchester-united-23-december-1970-29251/ (https://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-manchester-united-23-december-1970-29251/)
My first Villa-MU game, my dad never stopped talking about it till the day he died.

God bless your dad.

I can still visualise both of our goals. What a Christmas present that was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 14, 2022, 01:51:17 PM
Something to do pre-match if you're having a dry January.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/14/villa-to-unveil-new-champions-of-europe-tribute/
I'm glad they're doing this but surely it should be 12 players not 11?  Rimmer contributed massievly to us winning the European cip and should be honoured too.
He kept us in the entire competition on more than one occasion - the save at 0:1 against Dynamo Berlin from Hans Jurgen Riediger (their leading goalscorer) in front of the Holte was beyond top-drawer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 14, 2022, 01:53:27 PM
"Aston Villa v VAR" - Funny and depressingly appropriate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 14, 2022, 01:59:41 PM
You just know there will be something controversial in the game and you know even more it will not be in our favour. As  another poster stated, if we start off on a flyer it will not be long before we get a midfielder / Defender in the book to change the impact of that players game whilst they go about tactical fouling and shithousery
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 14, 2022, 02:44:13 PM
Not to sound too Kevin Keegan but I would love it if we beat these fuckers.

We should be beating them. This is a dreadful Man United team, getting worse by the game. Id definitely start with both Digne and Coutinho, give the team a real boost.
Are they match ready though?
Obviously not
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: john2710 on January 14, 2022, 02:50:04 PM
It's time we showed people we mean business & I think it starts tomorrow. Let's get this Man U at Villa Park monkey off our back & do it in style.

No more VAR, dodgy refereeing excuses, let's simply batter them.

I'm confident & I can't wait. It's going to be lively. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: mrfuse on January 14, 2022, 02:58:40 PM
Gerrard: “If we can find a similar level of performance, be a little bit more ruthless in the final third and the big calls on the night go in our favour, I’ve got no doubt we can get the result we want.”

Well we can only hope for 2 out of 3 I'm afraid Gerrard.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 14, 2022, 03:16:49 PM
Sounds like we won't be seeing Coutinho start tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 14, 2022, 03:33:52 PM
Gerrard on Philippe Coutinho and Lucas Digne: “They are both available and in contention for tomorrow.”

#AVLMUN
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 03:44:28 PM
Coutinho not match fit, so sounds like it will be:

                        Ings
          Watkins            Buendia

    Ramsey         Luiz            Sanson

Digne      Mings           Konsa          Cash

                       Martinez

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 14, 2022, 03:52:09 PM
Gerrard on Philippe Coutinho and Lucas Digne: “They are both available and in contention for tomorrow.”

#AVLMUN

He also said that Coutinho is not match fit but  “ At the right time, he’ll be unleashed.”

Suggests on the bench at best.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
Watkins will start on the left.  Coutinho will come on for Ings at 60 mins and Watkins will move into the middle.

Watkins will score one or two goals and we will fuck these fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on January 14, 2022, 04:03:02 PM
Opta stats
Aston Villa are winless in their last 22 home league games against Manchester United (D7 L15) since a 3-1 victory in August 1995. It's the longest winless home run one side has had against another in English Football League history.

Aston Villa are looking to win consecutive league games against Man Utd for the first time since November 1976, while they last did the league double over the Red Devils in 1954-55.

Manchester United have scored the opening goal in 33 Premier League games against Aston Villa, winning 32 and drawing one of those matches. It's the most a team has opened the scoring without losing against a side in the competition's history.

Manchester United have won 299 Premier League away games, and would be the first side to reach 300 in the competition with victory here. No side has won more Premier League games (37) or away games (17) in the competition's history than the Red Devils have against Aston Villa.

None of Aston Villa's last 16 Premier League games have ended level (W6 L10), with the Villans last having a longer run without a league draw between September 1964 and April 1965 (29 games).

Dean Smith was manager of Aston Villa for their 1-0 win earlier this season over Man Utd, while Steven Gerrard will take charge of this game. Should the Villans win, they will be the first team to complete a league double over Manchester United with a different manager in charge for each game since Bolton Wanderers in 1950-51 (Walter Rowley and Bill Ridding).

As a player, Aston Villa manager Steven Gerrard ended on the winning side in 10 Premier League games against Man Utd, a joint-record along with Nicolas Anelka, John Terry and Petr Cech. However, including caretakers, only one of the last 18 managers has won their first Premier League match against the Red Devils, with Mikel Arteta winning with Arsenal in January 2020.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 14, 2022, 04:09:40 PM
No quotes as to why he let El Ghazi go, none of the journos even brought it up. They don't give a fcuk unless it's headline-worthy stuff, I guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 14, 2022, 04:14:02 PM
Aston Villa are winless in their last 22 home league games against Manchester United (D7 L15) since a 3-1 victory in August 1995. It's the longest winless home run one side has had against another in English Football League history.

I knew it was a bad run, I didn't realise it was the worst run in English football history though. Fuck me we have to end that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 14, 2022, 04:14:34 PM
I'm dreaming of a Liverpool 7-2 type of performance and result....but I would take a very easy and a stroll at Villa Park.

 2 nil to the Villa

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 14, 2022, 05:24:14 PM
Apologies if already been mentioned, but anyone know if there are going to be any COVID related checks on entering VP tomorrow?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: villalion on January 14, 2022, 05:44:46 PM
I'm dreaming of a Liverpool 7-2 type of performance and result....but I would take a very easy and a stroll at Villa Park.

 2 nil to the Villa

UTV
The Doc
with penaldo playing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: levico on January 14, 2022, 05:45:25 PM
More injustice I’m afraid.

This top six VAR protection is like a runaway juggernaut. The only way we can avoid it is to join the club. It’s not going to start tomorrow.

4th defeat on the trot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 14, 2022, 07:15:17 PM
Not to cause any alarm but if we lose tomorrow that means we've lost five of the last six, which is almost as bad as the run that got Smith sacked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 14, 2022, 08:02:11 PM
3 0   

ings buendia coutinho
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 14, 2022, 08:19:27 PM
Not to cause any alarm but if we lose tomorrow that means we've lost five of the last six, which is almost as bad as the run that got Smith sacked.

We played Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea in that run..
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 14, 2022, 08:20:51 PM
Please, please let us hump these fuckers tomorrow. If we get a couple of dodgy decisions go our way, even better. 4-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 14, 2022, 08:22:03 PM
Please, please let us hump these fuckers tomorrow. If we get a couple of dodgy decisions go our way, even better. 4-0.

I'm glad this rematch is the late game and will be the only game on TV. That way any funny business is plain for all to see - surely it can't happen again.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Ad@m on January 14, 2022, 08:23:43 PM
Apologies if already been mentioned, but anyone know if there are going to be any COVID related checks on entering VP tomorrow?

Potentially - https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/14/Matchday-Guide--Aston-Villa-v-Manchester-United/
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 14, 2022, 08:28:11 PM
It's time we beat these at home in the league, 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 14, 2022, 08:34:10 PM
Very much expect a win.
And a Win by 2 goals
Digne assist and to score.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 14, 2022, 09:05:28 PM
As In the classic h&v post,let’s lay our fists upon them, UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Hillbilly on January 14, 2022, 10:45:23 PM
“ Manchester United have won 299 Premier League away games, and would be the first side to reach 300 in the competition with victory here. No side has won more Premier League games (37) or away games (17) in the competition's history than the Red Devils have against Aston Villa.”

They’ve taken an entire season’s worth of points off us in the past 30 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2022, 12:45:08 AM
Expecting a surprise or two in the lineup. Wonder if he might start Carney.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs The Plastics pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 15, 2022, 02:15:28 AM
We should be beating teams like this lot. No excuses. I expect those lucky, chosen few to rock Villa Park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 15, 2022, 07:33:07 AM
I've just realised I can get all our games on RMC Sport in in 4k UHD now that we have a fibre internet connection. No more dodgy streams for me. I hope to see Ladyboy's tears in marvelous detail as we funeral the has-been home-counties fuckers 3-0 .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on January 15, 2022, 08:23:03 AM
It’s the worst Man Ure side since the late eighties, they’re there for the beating. We have the 4th most expensive footballer in history ready to be unleashed, they have Victor Lindeloff. We’ve outplayed the fuckers twice this season, we just need to bury our chances and for their penalty to be awarded when we’re already 4-0 up.

It’s going to be our night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Ad@m on January 15, 2022, 09:01:58 AM
It’s the worst Man Ure side since the late eighties, they’re there for the beating. We have the 4th most expensive footballer in history ready to be unleashed, they have Victor Lindeloff. We’ve outplayed the fuckers twice this season, we just need to bury our chances and for their penalty to be awarded when we’re already 4-0 up.

It’s going to be our night.

This. I don't remember a Man Utd team as bad as the one we played on Monday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 15, 2022, 09:17:28 AM
This has the feel of a grudge match.  They won't be as shit as they were last time out and will surely play a different team, and we have a couple of new players.  Tough one to call, but it's way beyond time we beat these at home.  Wouldn't be surprised if one or two are sent off and they will (of course) get a penalty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 15, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
It’s the worst Man Ure side since the late eighties, they’re there for the beating. We have the 4th most expensive footballer in history ready to be unleashed, they have Victor Lindeloff. We’ve outplayed the fuckers twice this season, we just need to bury our chances and for their penalty to be awarded when we’re already 4-0 up.

It’s going to be our night.

This. I don't remember a Man Utd team as bad as the one we played on Monday.
And we still lost. Forget the var shenanigans we have got to start taking our chances. I hope and pray that today is the day we do that and begin to right all the wrongs that these twunts have done to us over the years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 15, 2022, 10:04:20 AM
Someone called Telles starting at LB for them tonight
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: TonyD on January 15, 2022, 10:06:07 AM
It’s time.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 15, 2022, 10:19:48 AM
They have an incredible array of footballing talent.
We could not beat them Monday despite dominating large parts of the game. The team they put out today is arguably stronger.
We need to score first to have any chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 15, 2022, 10:25:47 AM
One thing I normally hate about going to games against Man Utd is the atmosphere - Apart from Little's 3-1 'You'll never win anything with kids' moment, it's always been a little flat with that looming sense of foreboding - The imminent equaliser, penalty or red card.

Monday's travesty may play into our hands. The fans want blood, the officials are under such scrutiny that they may think twice before awarding them their annual penalty. I think the atmosphere could reach the levels of that Everton game first game back in the Prem. The United team could be in for a rude awakening tonight (hopefully!).

UTFV! 💪🏻
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: sickbeggar on January 15, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
McTominay being out will help us I think.  Their squad  is not really full of midfielders prepared to run round for 90 minutes even if it is mainly like a headless chicken. Hopefully Matic will come in
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 15, 2022, 10:34:34 AM
One thing I normally hate about going to games against Man Utd is the atmosphere - Apart from Little's 3-1 'You'll never win anything with kids' moment, it's always been a little flat with that looming sense of foreboding - The imminent equaliser, penalty or red card.

Monday's travesty may play into our hands. The fans want blood, the officials are under such scrutiny that they may think twice before awarding them their annual penalty. I think the atmosphere could reach the levels of that Everton game first game back in the Prem. The United team could be in for a rude awakening tonight (hopefully!).

UTFV! 💪🏻
The scrutiny is in the minds of Villa fans only and they really don’t give a shit about that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 15, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
I've just realised I can get all our games on RMC Sport in in 4k UHD now that we have a fibre internet connection. No more dodgy streams for me. I hope to see Ladyboy's tears in marvelous detail as we funeral the has-been home-counties fuckers 3-0 .

Do you need a subscription?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Neil Hawkes on January 15, 2022, 11:45:59 AM
If you have fibre internet, try and find South African Supersport or Canadian DAZN - they broadcast every game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 11:47:45 AM
I use DAZN or NBCSN, but I think that's moved to another provider now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2022, 12:21:17 PM
NBCSN is no more unfortunately, coverage is the same but it is on The USA Network or Peacock now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 15, 2022, 12:24:30 PM
Opta stats
Aston Villa are winless in their last 22 home league games against Manchester United (D7 L15) since a 3-1 victory in August 1995. It's the longest winless home run one side has had against another in English Football League history.

Aston Villa are looking to win consecutive league games against Man Utd for the first time since November 1976, while they last did the league double over the Red Devils in 1954-55.

Manchester United have scored the opening goal in 33 Premier League games against Aston Villa, winning 32 and drawing one of those matches. It's the most a team has opened the scoring without losing against a side in the competition's history.

Manchester United have won 299 Premier League away games, and would be the first side to reach 300 in the competition with victory here. No side has won more Premier League games (37) or away games (17) in the competition's history than the Red Devils have against Aston Villa.

None of Aston Villa's last 16 Premier League games have ended level (W6 L10), with the Villans last having a longer run without a league draw between September 1964 and April 1965 (29 games).

Dean Smith was manager of Aston Villa for their 1-0 win earlier this season over Man Utd, while Steven Gerrard will take charge of this game. Should the Villans win, they will be the first team to complete a league double over Manchester United with a different manager in charge for each game since Bolton Wanderers in 1950-51 (Walter Rowley and Bill Ridding).

As a player, Aston Villa manager Steven Gerrard ended on the winning side in 10 Premier League games against Man Utd, a joint-record along with Nicolas Anelka, John Terry and Petr Cech. However, including caretakers, only one of the last 18 managers has won their first Premier League match against the Red Devils, with Mikel Arteta winning with Arsenal in January 2020.

Mrs Beard surprisingly unimpressed by me naming the starting eleven for the 1995 game.  Man shes a lucky lady!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 15, 2022, 12:44:26 PM
I think it’s pretty important we win today. It’s not good being unlucky in defeat all the time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 15, 2022, 03:04:05 PM
NBCSN is no more unfortunately, coverage is the same but it is on The USA Network or Peacock now.
yeah, it changes at the new year - I use USA network too :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 15, 2022, 03:28:37 PM
One thing I normally hate about going to games against Man Utd is the atmosphere - Apart from Little's 3-1 'You'll never win anything with kids' moment, it's always been a little flat with that looming sense of foreboding - The imminent equaliser, penalty or red card.

Monday's travesty may play into our hands. The fans want blood, the officials are under such scrutiny that they may think twice before awarding them their annual penalty. I think the atmosphere could reach the levels of that Everton game first game back in the Prem. The United team could be in for a rude awakening tonight (hopefully!).

UTFV! 💪🏻
The scrutiny is in the minds of Villa fans only and they really don’t give a shit about that.

Absolutely this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 15, 2022, 04:17:30 PM
I've just realised I can get all our games on RMC Sport in in 4k UHD now that we have a fibre internet connection. No more dodgy streams for me. I hope to see Ladyboy's tears in marvelous detail as we funeral the has-been home-counties fuckers 3-0 .

Do you need a subscription?
Yes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 15, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
It's a French channel  I've signed up for a year, €19 per month. Their advertising says they show every PL game. However what I didn't realise is that three or four games are shown later on at 9pm. Doh! Still, the quality is amazing and I'm fed up with shite pixelly streams with shite sound and commentary in Mandinka dialect.

I'm alright today as it's on live but for other games I'm going to have to switch off my phone until it's shown.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs VAR pre-match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on January 15, 2022, 04:38:05 PM
Luca starting, Coutinho on bench. Sanson in.
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