Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 10, 2022, 11:20:23 PM
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And then some.
https://thebirminghampress.com/2022/01/aston-villa-and-the-insurmountable-obstacle/
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All I know is we will put this right on Saturday
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Definitely. Initially having back to back games against them would not be favourable. But after tonight, it's the best possible thing that can happen. They won't want to come to VP.
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The final sentence is damning and totally true. I'm looking forward to a raucous fired up Villa Park on Saturday and a team that's fired up and gagging to put these serial cheats to the sword. Word of warning though the officials will be aware of this and will no doubt protect their players to the hilt. We need to be wary of early bookings because players like Bruno will be in full cheat mode and will be looking to influence the ref from the off.
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Absolutely nailed it Dave.
We don't stand a chance.
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I'm just upset we probably won't get another punt at Lindelöf. Man alive he's crap. The days of Man U having 2 or 3 quality defenders in reserve are well gone
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I'm just upset we probably won't get another punt at Lindelöf. Man alive he's crap. The days of Man U having 2 or 3 quality defenders players in reserve are well gone
fixed it for you.
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The referee was looking directly at the collision and waved it away, only when VAR told him to review it did he have a change of mind, VAR is ruining the game.
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Sad but True.
I am starting to wonder, what is the point?
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I can’t process the fact that 3 minute VAR checks are perhaps put in place so Asia can go to commercial breaks. It’s likely true as well. I’m starting to convince myself VAR is being utilised to prevent City running away with it. Liverpool about to drop to points? Go on Mo, dive and get a pen. We can’t have the league dead by early March can we.
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First time i disagree with your analysis Dave, i presume the result and disappointment has clouded your judgement but i thought we were magnificent. No way was there a case for either team to be the better side, Villa were by far the better side over the ninety minutes.
I agree about Watkins and Ings together but thought last night was both their best performances playing along side each other.
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Done.
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All I know is we will put this right on Saturday
I'd like to think so but then it's not in our hands is it? That's the point.
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The referee was looking directly at the collision and waved it away, only when VAR told him to review it did he have a change of mind, VAR is ruining the game.
As mentioned, those type of coming together, either deliberately or accidently happen at every freekick and corner. Now suddenly it is a clear (well once VAR google search told them) foul.
I reckon a review of multiple other goals given this season by VAR would show the same incidents being ignored (and probably worse like West Hams goal this weekend where a player can jump in front of the goalie whilst in an offside position and be adjudged to not interfere.)
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Spot on Dave I was also fuming with what happened at OT.
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Can we start by limiting away fans to 500 starting Saturday? They get away with it year after year so should we.
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"Too big to be plucky underdogs. Too small to write our own rules.
In a nutshell.
PS I too thought we were magnificent.
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Great piece.
Two typos on line 4.
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Spot on Dave I was also fuming with what happened at OT.
Your rage is awesome Daz.
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Nailed
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That is remarkably restrained Dave. My thoughts typed are just plain libellous.
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The referee was looking directly at the collision and waved it away, only when VAR told him to review it did he have a change of mind, VAR is ruining the game.
As mentioned, those type of coming together, either deliberately or accidently happen at every freekick and corner. Now suddenly it is a clear (well once VAR google search told them) foul.
I reckon a review of multiple other goals given this season by VAR would show the same incidents being ignored (and probably worse like West Hams goal this weekend where a player can jump in front of the goalie whilst in an offside position and be adjudged to not interfere.)
I've watched this incident a few times on iPlayer now, and it's clear the goal was disallowed for offside against JJ, NOT for a foul on Cavani. The ref gave an indirect free-kick, not a direct one, so we know for certain it was offside, not a foul.
My personal view is that the ref saw the coming together in real-time and thought "nah, no foul, just a coming together", which is the correct decision. But, once he was shown that JJ started in an offside position on the monitor, that "coming together" becomes "interference" as JJ is affecting Cavani's ability to challenge for the header. The severity of the contact between JJ and Cavani is - unfortunately - irrelevant. Just getting in someone's eye line is sufficient to be called offside, as we've seen. Blocking a run, even if it's not enough for a 'foul' anywhere on the pitch, is enough to pass the threshold for 'interference'.
I think this is why, if you watch the ref go to the monitor, the first thing they show him is the side view of the pitch with JJ's starting position - NOT the contact itself. Because the fact he started in an offside position makes the contact an offside offence, even if it's not enough for a 'foul'.
It's shit, and I hate how long it took - but unfortunately, I think it was the correct decision. If you let that goal stand you open the floodgates to all sorts of blocking moves on attacking free-kicks in future. We tried to be clever, and push the boundaries of the offside laws, and this time it didn't pay off. We'll learn and move on.
Even without that, we had more than enough to beat them last night, and they got extremely lucky that VAR was even in play.
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Spot on, Dave but this should be in the Rant thread.