Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: Villa Lew on January 10, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
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Australian Cameron Smith shot the PGA's lowest ever score to win a PGA event finishing on 34 under. Doesn't exactly sound like one of the most challenging courses on the tour, with the top 18 players scoring 20 under or better.
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The 19 year old son of an acquaintance of mine won the Latin America Amateur Championship at the weekend and will now become the first player from Cayman to compete at The Masters and The Open. https://www.golfdigest.com/story/aaron-jarvis-wins-2022-latin-america-amateur-championship-laac
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In Dubai I see Rory once again blew his chance of winning once again with a shocking effort on the 18th, at the moment I have my doubts if he'll win any tournament this year, let alone a major. Well done to Hovland winning it in a play off with Richard Bland. Hovland is in top form at the moment, winning 3 out last 5 starts.
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Delighted to read today, that the Saudis attempt to create a Super Golf League has failed miserably. Apparently the US tour commissioner Jay Monahan has persuaded every top player aged under 40 to turn their backs on the so called Saudi golf revolution and declare their loyalty to the PGA tour, obviously it does mean there will now be increased earnings on the US tour.
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Has Mickelson actually said anything dodgy? All I've read are his concerns about the Saudi record on human rights.
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Has Mickelson actually said anything dodgy? All I've read are his concerns about the Saudi record on human rights.
Nope, he just said that the Saudi regime was "scary", which is an understatement.
However, the Saudis are his paymasters in the breakaway tour.
Therefore, he's effectively now apologising for criticising the Saudi human-rights record.
I can't believe that Phil needs the money, so it's all a bit bizarre.
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Has Mickelson actually said anything dodgy? All I've read are his concerns about the Saudi record on human rights.
Nope, he just said that the Saudi regime was "scary", which is an understatement.
However, the Saudis are his paymasters in the breakaway tour.
Therefore, he's effectively now apologising for criticising the Saudi human-rights record.
I can't believe that Phil needs the money, so it's all a bit bizarre.
I can't quite believe it's towards the top of sports news, and he's apologised as if he was filmed vomiting on the grave of Martin Luther King whilst blacked-up.
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Looks like Ian Poulter's gonna miss out on The Masters for the first time since 2006, needs to be in the world's top 50 currently 63rd.
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2015 Open champion Zach Johnson named US Ryder Cup captain.
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Bryson DeChambeau has withdrawn from The Players Championship otherwise known as the '5th Major', which starts on Thursday, due to wrist and hip injuries.
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Bryson DeChambeau has withdrawn from The Players Championship otherwise known as the '5th Major', which starts on Thursday, due to wrist and hip injuries.
makes it a lot more watchable at least
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Agree Gareth, on another subject Tiger Woods has been inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame, blimey not before time me thinks.
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Bizarrely players like Mickelson, Mark OMeara, Ray Floyd & Davis Love 3 have been in there for years yet no Tiger….I know he has had his off course stuff but for on course achievements he should have been in years ago
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No play today The Players will now finish on Monday
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Paul Casey 2 off the lead after 9 holes of his 3rd round going into tomorrow, when hopefully they will be able to finish the tournament.
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Great effort from Casey, but just falls short, finishes in 3rd place on 11 under, 2 behind the winner Aussie Cameron Smith.
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Henrik Stenson named Europe's Ryder Cup captain.
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Good to see Georgia Hall winning again and by 5 shots very impressive, hopefully she'll win another major this year.
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Looks like Richard Bland's dream of being the oldest professional, at 49, to make his debut at the Masters is almost certainly over, after losing to Dustin Johnson at the WGC Match Play Championship. His only hope now of getting an invite is to win the Texas Open, which starts on Thursday.
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Not a bad start to the year for Scottie Scheffler, already won twice this year and yesterday won the WGC Match Play Championship, which has taken him to number 1 in the world, might be worth putting a few pennies on him for the Masters, starts in 10 days time.
Well done to Scot Ewen Ferguson, winning the Qatar Masters, his first win on the DP World Tour.
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Is there a sport that has such depth when it comes to having top players as golf.
How many major winners are there on the PGA these days, and how many new PGA tour winners have we had in the last 12 months. Betting on who'll win a golf tournament is pretty much impossible.
It's a healthiest the sport has been in decades.
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How many major winners are there on the PGA these days, and how many new PGA tour winners have we had in the last 12 months. Betting on who'll win a golf tournament is pretty much impossible.
A Scottish friend of mine (now sadly passed) did really well betting on the majors and bigger US tournaments. Started off with 200 quid and made it up 8 grand (helped by having the 1st and 2nd in a US Open). The bookies then made him close his account as he was located overseas citing 'money laundering' concerns or similar nonsense.
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For about 25 to 30 years I always just had one bet to win on The Open and occasionally on the other majors and in all that time only won twice. Never put any money on Woods as the odds were always so poor. Haven't now had a bet for sometime, decided the bookies have had enough of my money!
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Looks like Tiger is gonna play in The Masters, but it sounds we'll only know for certain, when he is actually standing on the first tee. He's even talking about winning, well it seems there are quite a few punters backing him, some bookies have got him as low as 40/1.
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That's a huge ask for someone who hasn't played competitive golf in over 18 months. If I had to put a bet on, i'd say Patrick Cantlay at 25/1 isn't a bad shout.
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Tiger has teed off, the patrons are excited.
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Superb effort from Woods to finish in red figures, all now depends how his body recovers tomorrow. Some round from Cameron Smith, starts with a double, finishes with a double and still scores 68.
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Superb effort from Woods to finish in red figures, all now depends how his body recovers tomorrow. Some round from Cameron Smith, starts with a double, finishes with a double and still scores 68.
Double 12, 12, double 16. Top arrers.
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What a final round from Rory.
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What a final round from Rory.
Incredible round, but fair do's to Scheffler a fantastic golfer amongst many other fantastic golfers.
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What a final round from Rory.
Incredible round, but fair do's to Scheffler a fantastic golfer amongst many other fantastic golfers.
He's only 25 years old, but looks and comes across as in late 40s. These types of golfers America produces are so square, I imagine they come out of the womb wearing a polo shirt and chinos.
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First time I've seen someone take 4 putts to win a major, but apart from that minor hiccup, Scheffler coped very well with the pressure of leading a grand slam, at such a young age, looks like being a multiple major winner.
See Tiger didn't commit himself to be playing in the PGA Championship or US Open, but said he would definitely be at St Andrews, his favourite golf course apparently.
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First time I've seen someone take 4 putts to win a major, but apart from that minor hiccup, Scheffler coped very well with the pressure of leading a grand slam,
He knew he had shots to spare. Just took the opportunity he had. to live his boyhood dream 4 times..."This one for the Masters"
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Good to see the crowds turning out at the Belfry yesterday for the British Masters, around 15,000 there, a crowd Blues would be happy to see! I would like to think, I will see the Ryder Cup returning to the Belfry once again in my lifetime, but I'm not holding my breath.
Dane Thorbjorn Olesen won it, Richie Ramsay finished 3rd after blowing his chance of winning with a double bogey at the 18th.
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The latest comments from Norman are beyond disgraceful.
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The latest comments from Norman are beyond disgraceful.
Yeah condoning an evil regime, in one way I'm hoping he does qualify for the Open, then the British public can tell him exactly what they think of him.
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The latest comments from Norman are beyond disgraceful.
Yeah condoning an evil regime, in one way I'm hoping he does qualify for the Open, then the British public can tell him exactly what they think of him.
https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1524884713478971392
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Spot on that tweet…see also Newcastle. If the justification like Westwood was ‘others have taken their money’ or Howe saying he isn’t getting involved in politics there is no way they will be stopped…blood money
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I see Mickelson has withdrawn from the PGA Championship, good news another Saudi supporter.
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Does he sell them weapons like our government?
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Spot on that tweet…see also Newcastle. If the justification like Westwood was ‘others have taken their money’ or Howe saying he isn’t getting involved in politics there is no way they will be stopped…blood money
Yep I’ve commented on Howe before, but Westwood essentially said he’s got to earn a living and others have taken the money - what an upstanding character is, and he must be struggling to get by in the world of golf which is obviously a game for paupers.
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Good to see Sam Horsfield winning again, first win for nearly 2 years and with his girlfriend as caddie as well, can't be bad. Has qualified for the PGA on Thursday, interesting to see how he gets on there.
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US PGA begins today in Oklahoma, Tiger no doubt will be the focus of attention once more, interesting to see if his game has improved since the Masters, he's in a group with McIlroy and Spieth. Bookies have got Scheffler and Rahm favourites at 11-1, Rory 12, Thomas 14, Spieth 16, Cantlay 18, Morikawa 20, best Brits Fitzpatrick 45 and Hatton 80. Casey has pulled out with a bad back.
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Good start for Rory.
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Not a great round from Rory, hopefully that was his poor round, good to see Fitzpatrick and Hatton in contention.
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Not a great round from Rory, hopefully that was his poor round, good to see Fitzpatrick and Hatton in contention.
Unfortunately not. Woods withdraws after his third round. https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/61539212
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Great round of 67 puts Matt Fitzpatrick in joint 2nd 3 behind the leader, he goes out last with Pereira at 7.35pm.
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Great effort from Matt Fitzpatrick, blew his chances on the 17th, not surprising as this was his first time being in contention for a major, likewise with Pereira. Also good to see Fleetwood having a good major finishing joint 5th with Fitzpatrick. As for Rory gave himself a great chance to be in contention to win, but blew it. Would think there is no way Tiger is going to play in the US Open, which starts 3 weeks on Thursday and it's looking doubtful if he'll make The Open.
Not surprising Thomas won the play off, his 2nd major win, first one was the PGA 5 years ago.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/61718753
Two-time major champion Dustin Johnson has resigned his membership of the PGA Tour in order to play in the Saudi-funded LIV Golf Invitational Series.
The former world number one will play all eight events of the fledgling $255m (£200m) series, which starts on Thursday at Centurion Club, London.
Johnson, 37, joined the PGA Tour in 2007 and has won $74m in his career.
"I don't want to play for the rest of my life, this gives me an opportunity to do what I want to do," he said.
It is reported that Johnson's career earnings are around $200m
I'm sure that he could quit today and not be short of money
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$74 million earnings, plus probably tens of millions in sponsorships / endorsements. They're paying him $150 million just for appearing in their eight tournaments. They tried to get Tiger Woods, and the offer to him was apparently in the high hundreds of millions of dollars, just for playing eight tournaments......
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I find this all incredibly distasteful and greedy. Poor Dustin Johnson I’m sure he’d struggle to make ends meet on the PGA tour.
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Really disappointed in Garcia as well. If there is an argument about freedom to play other tournaments then fair enough but the origin of the money here is vile.
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Yes make no mistake this is pure greed and given the origins of the money it’s pretty abhorrent.
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As expected Woods has confirmed he will not play at next week's US Open, but is still hoping to play in the Open.
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I've got a freebie corporate pass to LIV Golf on saturday...I shall report back on the 'vibe'.
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Really disappointed in Garcia as well.
Disappointed in McDowell too. I'd say fine, play if you want to but you're banned from US PGA and European tour events.
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The organisers of The Majors should ban the players as well.
I think that's the step needed to make these players think again.
That, and a phone call from Jamal Khashoggi's family
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When you're being offered these, frankly obscene, amounts of money, how could you turn it down?
I can understand it if it was a small increase on regular fees/prizemoney, but the amounts we're talking about mean it's something that nobody could say no to.
The authorities etc, can ban them from the majors and Ryder Cup but that's it.
The question is whether fans will pay to watch, and that's where the high moral ground should come in to play. This is different to football, where clubs already have that link to supporters, golf is a one-man event.
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When you're being offered these, frankly obscene, amounts of money, how could you turn it down?
I can understand it if it was a small increase on regular fees/prizemoney, but the amounts we're talking about mean it's something that nobody could say no to.
The authorities etc, can ban them from the majors and Ryder Cup but that's it.
The question is whether fans will pay to watch, and that's where the high moral ground should come in to play. This is different to football, where clubs already have that link to supporters, golf is a one-man event.
I can see what you're saying but then the major players involved are already rich beyond what many of us could even imagine and I think that's the crux of the argument, do they REALLY need the money that much that they will forgo their positions on the tour and in the RC? And that's without touching on the moral aspect of this and let's face it, that's what is so unedifying about all this.
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According to my source inside LIV Golf, saturday is 10,000 sell out.
If fines are sanctioned by PGA tour, LIV Golf will pay potentially them.
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I suppose from Westwood and Poulter's point of view, a guaranteed, say, £20 million for playing 8 tournaments at this stage of their careers is a no-brainer. Someone like Richard Bland as well, being offered a couple of million up front, then with the prize money on offer ($120k per tournament for finishing last) sets him up for life.
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Westwood, Poulter & Garcia - maximum of one more Ryder Cup, unlikely to win any more majors so can see why they jump at the cash but to be so sniffy to journalists asking relevant questions is poor…same with Howe at Newcastle….you are the face of organisations who have got in bed with these people so expect to be questioned hard.
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Bunch of parasites. Hope they all get banned from Majors and the Ryder Cup.
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Westwood, Poulter & Garcia - maximum of one more Ryder Cup, unlikely to win any more majors so can see why they jump at the cash but to be so sniffy to journalists asking relevant questions is poor…same with Howe at Newcastle….you are the face of organisations who have got in bed with these people so expect to be questioned hard.
This is it. It’s their choice to take the money, from an appalling source, but as a consequence you’re going to face questions your character will be questioned. Don’t be bloody surprised.
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Agree with CD re bans, I see DeChambeau and Patrick Reed are the next expected to join up, neither will be a loss, Dustin Johnson is the only big name signed up and he's nearly 38 and probably coming towards the end of his career. Good to see no UK TV broadcasters are showing any live footage.
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I suppose from Westwood and Poulter's point of view, a guaranteed, say, £20 million for playing 8 tournaments at this stage of their careers is a no-brainer. Someone like Richard Bland as well, being offered a couple of million up front, then with the prize money on offer ($120k per tournament for finishing last) sets him up for life.
These are people who are already set up for life........unless they've been really shit at dealing with their money
Even Richard Bland is listed as having over $7m in tour earnings. A figure that probably doesn't include endorsements etc
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Oh, I agree, although once expenses / taxes are taken off, he's probably 'only' got a 4/5 bed detached / nice car / £1m in the bank. For Bland, I get it. The appearance money and prize money for a 48 year old journeyman will probably end up bein £4-5 million. Thing is though, the DP World Tour have held events in Saudi Arabia before, as well as China. Surely they can all sit down together and find some common ground? I'm amazed at the likes of DeChambeau and Fowler....both young, and despite their injuries / loss of form, are still likely to contend for majors over the next 10 years or so. I guess money really does talk. I wonder how much Greg Norman's getting for fronting this?
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If it keeps deChambeau away from majors then it’s not all bad….equally good that Mickelson who I’ve always thought was a smug, sly twat is showing himself up for the moron he is.
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deChambeau has jumped ship
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Result
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Swede Linn Grant wins the Scandinavian Mixed by 9 shots tournament to be the first woman to win on the DP World Tour.
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Good to have some good news to report in golf, Rory wins the Canadian Open, US Open next.
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Swede Linn Grant wins the Scandinavian Mixed by 9 shots tournament to be the first woman to win on the DP World Tour.
A convincing win for her in the end that was never really in doubt from the end of day 3.
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I've got a freebie corporate pass to LIV Golf on saturday...I shall report back on the 'vibe'.
An interesting day.
My observations -
The event was pretty well organised considering that they had only settled on a venue 80 days earlier and hadn't got a broadcaster (albeit Youtube) until six weeks ago.
Lots to do in the 'fan village', which was pretty busy at 1130, even with a 1415 start.
Lack of marshalls, some people just ignoring the ropes and wandering around the course. Wouldn't happen at a big event/major championship.
The round still took over 5 hours with a shotgun start; this could be something to address.
DJ looked bored shitless.
Only the groups in contention had any excitement around them.
The team aspect needs revisited. Didn't feel like it worked, and scoring was confusing.
Only advertising on course was for the LIV tour and Centurion GC.
Patrick Reed was there on Saturday morning having flown on Friday night. No doubt to sign his paperwork.
Word is 'more big players to join'.
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US Open starts today at Brookline Boston, going to be interesting to see how the fans react to the 'Saudi' players. Following his win last week, Rory is the favourite and he was the last player to win the week before a Grand Slam and then go onto to win a major, PGA in 2014.
Rory 10/1, Thomas & Rahm 12, Scheffler 14, Smith 20, Cantlay and Schauffele 22. Best Brit Fitzpatrick 40 and best 'Saudi' Johnson 40.
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US Open starts today at Brookline Boston, going to be interesting to see how the fans react to the 'Saudi' players. Following his win last week, Rory is the favourite and he was the last player to win the week before a Grand Slam and then go onto to win a major, PGA in 2014.
C'mon Rory (he's due one) and Shane. Should be plenty of support for them given it's in Boston and this will help. https://twitter.com/ShaneLowryGolf/status/1537200195477331968
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US Open starts today at Brookline Boston, going to be interesting to see how the fans react to the 'Saudi' players. Following his win last week, Rory is the favourite and he was the last player to win the week before a Grand Slam and then go onto to win a major, PGA in 2014.
Rory 10/1, Thomas & Rahm 12, Scheffler 14, Smith 20, Cantlay and Schauffele 22. Best Brit Fitzpatrick 40 and best 'Saudi' Johnson 40.
I thought the Saudi players had been kicked off the tour?
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US Open starts today at Brookline Boston, going to be interesting to see how the fans react to the 'Saudi' players. Following his win last week, Rory is the favourite and he was the last player to win the week before a Grand Slam and then go onto to win a major, PGA in 2014.
Rory 10/1, Thomas & Rahm 12, Scheffler 14, Smith 20, Cantlay and Schauffele 22. Best Brit Fitzpatrick 40 and best 'Saudi' Johnson 40.
I thought the Saudi players had been kicked off the tour?
They've had a stay of execution.
The PGA Tour is separate from the US Open and they can't decide who can play in it.
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That's rubbish. So don't the people that organise the US Open have any morals? I hope the scabs get booed but in the land where money means everything, I doubt it.
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US Open starts today at Brookline Boston, going to be interesting to see how the fans react to the 'Saudi' players. Following his win last week, Rory is the favourite and he was the last player to win the week before a Grand Slam and then go onto to win a major, PGA in 2014.
Rory 10/1, Thomas & Rahm 12, Scheffler 14, Smith 20, Cantlay and Schauffele 22. Best Brit Fitzpatrick 40 and best 'Saudi' Johnson 40.
Best Brit is surely Rory 10/1 😉
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US Open starts today at Brookline Boston, going to be interesting to see how the fans react to the 'Saudi' players. Following his win last week, Rory is the favourite and he was the last player to win the week before a Grand Slam and then go onto to win a major, PGA in 2014.
Rory 10/1, Thomas & Rahm 12, Scheffler 14, Smith 20, Cantlay and Schauffele 22. Best Brit Fitzpatrick 40 and best 'Saudi' Johnson 40.
Best Brit is surely Rory 10/1 😉
He must be playing well. ;)
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Good to see Matt Fitzpatrick in contention again, following the PGA, Rahm, Scheffler and Rory also in the race. Biggest surprise was Morikawa with 77, I fancied him to win it after the 2nd round.
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Question: why is it, that when a player slices his ball into the crowd, and by hitting the crowd the ball ends up in a better position than it would have ended up in had the ball not hit the crowd, the player hitting the ball into the crowd is not subject to a penalty, of say at least one shot?
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Brilliant Matt Fitzpatrick
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Totally brilliant, watching the two players walking up 18 chatting was class….the understated reaction of Fitzpatrick when Zalatoris missed the putt was also class….that bunker shot into 18 was ridiculous:-)
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Question: why is it, that when a player slices his ball into the crowd, and by hitting the crowd the ball ends up in a better position than it would have ended up in had the ball not hit the crowd, the player hitting the ball into the crowd is not subject to a penalty, of say at least one shot?
Answer (https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rule-11.html#:~:text=Purpose%20of%20Rule%3A%20Rule%2011,where%20it%20comes%20to%20rest.)
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Question: why is it, that when a player slices his ball into the crowd, and by hitting the crowd the ball ends up in a better position than it would have ended up in had the ball not hit the crowd, the player hitting the ball into the crowd is not subject to a penalty, of say at least one shot?
Answer (https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rule-11.html#:~:text=Purpose%20of%20Rule%3A%20Rule%2011,where%20it%20comes%20to%20rest.)
Yes, I understand that is the rule, but what I don't understand is why it's the rule, ie why a ball, hit into the crowd, is effectively allowed to be played from a better position than the ball would have been in, had the ball not been stopped on its way by the crowd - and without attracting at least a one stroke penalty.
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Well done Matt, nice to see another Irishman win a major.
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The European Tour continues in Munich from today.
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Once again Lexi Thompson blows her chance of winning another major, her putting was very poor today.
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Irish open starts today at Mount Juliet Estate.
Attending as a guest thanks to my daughter.
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Meronk of Poland won the Irish Open (-20)...great for him and his country. He was saying the other day there are only 8 courses in Poland and that they treat golf there as a hobby rather than a sport. He's doing his best to change opinions there.
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The Genesis Scottish Open is being played out this weekend. An American (Tringale) is leading by 3 shots.
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Americans finished 1st & 2nd in this event.
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Tommy Fleetwood finished joint 4th, which is his highest finish for a while and good news for him going into this week, Fitzpatrick a further shot behind.
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Good to see Tiger at St Andrews stating he is firmly opposed to LIV golf and likewise the GOAT Jack.
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I think Tiger may join when he realises he can't compete. They offered him nearly a billion $...now I know he's not short of a bob or two...
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They're no different to the parasite cricketers who toured South Africa in the eighties. I don't care how many people are killed or oppressed because I'm making a fat pile of cash.
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150th Open at St Andrews, it doesn't get better than that, some of the past champions at the celebration Nicklaus, Player, Watson, Trevino, Jacklin, Faldo, Lyle, Lawrie, Woods, and McIlroy.
If we call Rory a Brit then with Fitzpatrick, we have 2 of the favourites. Rory is favourite at 10/1, Schauffele and Spieth 18, Scheffler, Rahm, Thomas 20, Smith, Lowry 22 and Fitzpatrick 25.
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Justin Thomas for me - would love it to be Rory but most important is it’s not a LIV player or any of those who are planning to turn after Open.
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The 150th Open Championship at St Andrews starts today with last week's Scottish Open winner amongst the favourites.
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Justin Rose withdraws with back injury pity it's not a Saudi golfer.
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Poor Tiger Woods has had a terrible start. Not really surpring, but you can only stand in awe at the man's determination.
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So far so good for Rory, Tiger's gonna need something special to make the cut.
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Fantastic reception for Tiger at the 18th, maybe the last time we see the great man at St Andrews.
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Another round under par for English amateur Barclay Brown finishes on 6 under for the championship, currently joint 12th great stuff.
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Which of the leaders are decent and which are Saudi scum, please?
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Better from Rory, it'd be great to see an Irishman win the 150th Open at the 'home of golf'.
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Which of the leaders are decent and which are Saudi scum, please?
DJ]
Talor Gooch
Patrick Reed of the top 20 or so.
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Better from Rory, it'd be great to see an Irishman win the 150th Open at the 'home of golf'.
He frustratingly has missed a couple of gimme par putts today and needlessly dropped shots. But he's still well placed. The leaderboard is set up to make tomorrow pretty rivetting watching.
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Would love Rory to win it, but at the start of the Open if I had to choose a non Brit I'd like to win it would probably be Hovland, can't wait for 2.50pm.
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Rooting for Rory this afternoon. Keep believing!
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Hovland's jumper on Friday has been the sartorial highlight of The Open so far.
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Smith's the danger man now.
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Run of 5 birdies for Smith, finally comes to an end, Rory needs some putts to drop.
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Gutted for Rory, but that was a great round from Smith, nerveless. The 150th Open lived up to its billing, superb stuff.
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Massive respect to Smith,fantastic final round!
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Is Smith one of the Saudi twats or is he a good guy?
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A great last day from Smith to win!
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A good guy CD, but Henrik Stenson is no longer a good guy, will be joining the Saudi tour and as a result of that will be stripped of the Ryder Cup cataincy.
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Is Smith one of the Saudi twats or is he a good guy?
Apparently hasn't ruled out being a twat. Seems he is a friend of Norman.
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Is Smith one of the Saudi twats or is he a good guy?
Apparently hasn't ruled out being a twat. Seems he is a friend of Norman.
Then there's the mullet.
Did very well yesterday though, if you shoot 8 under in the final round of The Open you deserve the Claret Jug.
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Is Smith one of the Saudi twats or is he a good guy?
Apparently hasn't ruled out being a twat. Seems he is a friend of Norman.
Name calling aside, I think when the Ryder Cup captain and the newest winner of the Open look like they are heading to LIV, it's time to start paying attention. The PGA/DP need to get to the negotiating table......this isn't going away.
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Well, no. Just ban them. Should we have negotiated with the Super League wanks?
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Well, no. Just ban them. Should we have negotiated with the Super League wanks?
But that never happened, so it wasn't necessary. This is happening and it isn't going away......
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It won't go away until they discuss co-existing. The Saudi's are up for working around the other tours and players can then pick and choose.
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Well, no. Just ban them. Should we have negotiated with the Super League wanks?
But that never happened, so it wasn't necessary. This is happening and it isn't going away......
Super League would have happened if there hadn't been mass opposition. How do you compromise with Saudi Arabia, make them promise to only kill a few gay people?
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A good guy CD, but Henrik Stenson is no longer a good guy, will be joining the Saudi tour and as a result of that will be stripped of the Ryder Cup captaincy.
Now confirmed removed as Europe's captain, so Henrik, what you're saying is receiving money from an evil regime means more to you than the Ryder Cup captaincy.
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Proved himself to be completely classless and without morals - when taking that job he commits to a 2 year cycle….to throw it away for blood money proves he wasn’t worthy of the role in the first place.
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How do you compromise with Saudi Arabia, make them promise to only kill a few gay people?
Let them have their golf tournaments if they agree not to invest any more money in Newcastle?
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Put the regime stuff aside for a minute as I think there are a few moral high-horses being ridden here......why shouldn't LIV players be in the Ryder Cup? It's a contest between the best golfers in the US and Europe. If they happen to be on a different tour, who cares?
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Put the regime stuff aside for a minute as I think there are a few moral high-horses being ridden here......why shouldn't LIV players be in the Ryder Cup? It's a contest between the best golfers in the US and Europe. If they happen to be on a different tour, who cares?
The problem is that they can't be separated, if it wasn't for the regime and it's actions this would be an internal spat within the sport but when you have the 9/11 group picketing one of the participants it moves way beyond sport and that's why it is so emotive. There will be compromise and there will be some sort of agreement but it has a nasty stink whichever way you look at it.
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Put the regime stuff aside for a minute as I think there are a few moral high-horses being ridden here......why shouldn't LIV players be in the Ryder Cup? It's a contest between the best golfers in the US and Europe. If they happen to be on a different tour, who cares?
The problem is that they can't be separated, if it wasn't for the regime and it's actions this would be an internal spat within the sport but when you have the 9/11 group picketing one of the participants it moves way beyond sport and that's why it is so emotive. There will be compromise and there will be some sort of agreement but it has a nasty stink whichever way you look at it.
That's why I said to put it aside. I'm asking why the PGA (who apparently run the Ryder Cup) wouldn't want the best players involved? They allow DP tour players to play, this is just another tour to them.
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Luke Donald named Ryder Cup captain replacing Stenson.
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Put the regime stuff aside for a minute as I think there are a few moral high-horses being ridden here......why shouldn't LIV players be in the Ryder Cup? It's a contest between the best golfers in the US and Europe. If they happen to be on a different tour, who cares?
Why would you put the regime stuff aside? They have chosen money ahead of prestige. Fuck them.
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With women in sport very much in the headlines at the moment, it's good to see the Women's Open starting tomorrow at once men only Muirfield. I expect the long departed former members will be turning in their graves.
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Former? It only got overturned a couple of years ago - and even then it took two votes after a huge stink was made over the first basically dropping them out of the Open rotation.
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Put the regime stuff aside for a minute as I think there are a few moral high-horses being ridden here......why shouldn't LIV players be in the Ryder Cup? It's a contest between the best golfers in the US and Europe. If they happen to be on a different tour, who cares?
Why would you put the regime stuff aside? They have chosen money ahead of prestige. Fuck them.
Because that is not the PGA's beef. So I'm asking what does it matter if they play for a different organisation, surely the Ryder Cup organizers would want the best players in the world there?
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They shouldn't want them there because they're money grabbing Saudi apologist scum. It doesn't matter how good at golf they are. I'm not sure why you're struggling with my position.
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Your position is obnoxiously loud and clear. Shame it’s preventing you from answering the question.
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I cannot stand the 54 hole, shotgun start, none competitive exhibition style that the LIV Tour operates and how they recruited one of the greatest wankers in sport, Greg Norman, to be their cheerleader in chief.
But I think as a society we've somewhat jumped the shark with Saudi Arabia. Look at the way Russia has (quite rightly) been ostracised since their invasion of Ukraine. Compare that to the disingenuous and quite frankly limp wristed approach the west and specifically the US had to Saudi Arabia post 9/11. Pardon the pun, but it's a bit rich now for the PGA to point to Saudi Arabia and their way of governing as a way of publicly blacklisting some golfers for effectively doing what every western democracy has been doing for 20 years.
I too think that the LIV tour has way to much momentum now to be stopped in it's tracks. Once they get a TV deal, which they will, then it's all over. The rumours are rife here that Cam Smith will be joining LIV post Fed Ex cup as he now has automatic entry to the majors for the next 5 years, that's another massive coup. The tours, PGA, DP and Asian, have to work with LIV now regrettably I see now other option. But don't blame the players, blame the Governments.
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Your position is obnoxiously loud and clear. Shame it’s preventing you from answering the question.
I've answered the question. It's not my fault you don't like the answer. What a strange overreaction.
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I too think that the LIV tour has way to much momentum now to be stopped in it's tracks. Once they get a TV deal, which they will, then it's all over. The rumours are rife here that Cam Smith will be joining LIV post Fed Ex cup as he now has automatic entry to the majors for the next 5 years, that's another massive coup. The tours, PGA, DP and Asian, have to work with LIV now regrettably I see now other option. But don't blame the players, blame the Governments.
I think you are correct Oz. From my source, SKY have been speaking to LIV...allegedly.
The shotgun start is interesting as golf courses are generally set up to have tricky/risk reward holes toward the end of the course. A shotgun start negates this.
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Superb performance from Rory to come from 6 shots behind Scheffler to win the FedEx Cup with a round of 66 and the top prize of $18m.
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Am I right in thinking there was once an H&V golf day? Any interest in another one?
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As expected Cameron Smith has joined LIV.
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Good to see Oliver Wilson winning again after almost 8 years.
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Pro-Am is on today at Wentworth with the main event starting tomorrow.
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Seems the LIV boys aren’t getting a great welcome :-) particularly the Americans who would never dream of playing over here if they weren’t banned from the tour.
Positives are that this has culled some of the real cretins like Mickelson, Bryson, Mickelson, Reed, Mickelson, Koepka, Mickelson….
Nothing against a competitor tour….keeps pga etc on their toes….problem is 100% the scumbag regime financing it….no shock that those players are suing the pga…you take filthy money you are the puppet of the filthy regime….
You know when the European super league rears it ugly head again it will be financed by them too
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PGA will restart tomorrow, Championship reduced to 54 holes.
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Wentworth golf has resumed. Armitage currently leading.
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Kjeldsen and Hovland share the lead with McIlroy one shot off the pace at Wentworth.
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Shane Lowry beat off the challenge of Rahm and McIlroy by one shot!
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Tough on Rory, his final putt missed by an inch to take it to a play off, well played Lowry.
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Shane's looking a bit rough this morning, drink may have been taken. https://twitter.com/ShaneLowryGolf/status/1569210455595388929
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The Italian Open at the Marco Simone GC in Rome, starts today.
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Robert MacIntyre wins on the first hole of a play off against Matt Fitzpatrick, at next year's Ryder Cup venue.
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Well done MacIntyre!
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Danny Willett having a 3 1/2 feet putt to win his first title in the USA since his Masters victory in 2016, blows it by 3 putting. Max Homa takes the title.
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The French Open as part of the European Tour starts today.
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Guido Migliozzi of Italy won the Cazoo Open de France by 1-shot.
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Yeah superb 62 to finish, one of the commentators was saying his birdie on the last, was the best he's seen on that hole.
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Well done Charley Hull on her 2nd title on the LPGA tour, finishing with a 64 to win by one shot, has been a long time coming, last victory in the USA was in 2016.
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Following on from Charley's win last week, another British victory, Jodi Ewart Shadoff, wins her first title on the LPGA tour.
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The Estrella Damm Andalucía Masters at
Valderrama, Spain starts today.
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The Spaniard OTAEGUI won by 6 shots at the Andalusia Masters.
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Rory returns to number one in the world for the first time in over 2 years after winning in the States, hopefully next year will see him returning to winning one of the Grand Slams.
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Good to see Tommy Fleetwood winning again, his victory in South Africa was his first for 3 years.
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Final round of the DP World Tour Championship could be good, Rahm leading by one from Fitzpatrick, with Noren, Rory, Hatton and Fleetwood also in the running.
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Rahm wins it by 2 shots from Hatton and Noren, Rory finishes 4th and ends up number 1 on the tour.
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In only his 3rd professional start and only playing thanks to a sponsor invitation, England's Dan Bradbury won the Joburg Open by 3 shots, not a bad start to his career.