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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2022, 01:00:48 PM
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what a blow for Ollie not to be able to play today. Good to see Bert in there and Hause for Mings was obvious
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Few youngsters on the bench today
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Will be interesting to see how Ings can do in his preferred role.
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Watkins out today…
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Hopefully Traore and Buendia get close to Ings otherwise it’ll be another waste of a game for him
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
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Disappointed Ollie isn't involved today. Hope he's well! UTV!
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
The bench has some experienced players along with some of the most exciting young players at the club
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Hope Ollie’s alright?
Looks a promising line up on paper, quite strong and maybe an real element of the unexpected. I was watching a clip of Traore in training yesterday, his left foot is just so sweet. Some of his finishing was incredible.
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
Good positive endorsement for our youth / academy set-up; always nice to see.
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Ings go well today. Good opportunity for him. Our bench looks fairly weak. Sanson will get game time and AEG possibly.
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Depends if the front three can click, think we'll miss Ollie's movement personally.
Midfield plays well, we should win.
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Anyone know why Ollie is out? Is it covid?
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
A ridiculous comment
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No Ollie Watkins. We really need Ings to step up today. These are the days we bought him for.
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
The bench has some experienced players along with some of the most exciting young players at the club
Traores played less than 90 minutes all season in the league but forced to start as we have no players.
Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
Hoping archer gets some minutes today
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Happy with that line-up given Ollie is out. Big day for Josh Feeney, on the bench at 16.
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Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
'Intimidating' isn't a word that springs to mind on the very rare occasions I think of Brentford.
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
The bench has some experienced players along with some of the most exciting young players at the club
Traores played less than 90 minutes all season in the league but forced to start as we have no players.
Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
Hoping archer gets some minutes today
I’ve never seen Brentford described as intimidating before. If players are affected by the atmosphere there then they might as well give up.
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This is why talk of flogging / loaning Ings is barmy.
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Blimey. Quite a few missing. Covid related?
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
The bench has some experienced players along with some of the most exciting young players at the club
Traores played less than 90 minutes all season in the league but forced to start as we have no players.
Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
Hoping archer gets some minutes today
I’ve never seen Brentford described as intimidating before. If players are affected by the atmosphere there then they might as well give up.
Agree - its Brentford not Galatasary.....
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
The bench has some experienced players along with some of the most exciting young players at the club
Traores played less than 90 minutes all season in the league but forced to start as we have no players.
Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
Hoping archer gets some minutes today
Have you ever been to a football match?
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Surprised to see Feeney on the bench, he's only 16! Not sure how many times he's played for the U23's. Presumably Bogarde isn't available for selection as I would have thought he would have made the bench.
I like seeing some youth on the bench. When you've got a choice of 9 subs, I would expect clubs to have a mix on their bench. Even the likes of Man City so it doesn't impress me when I see Pep moaning about having 4 kids on the bench.
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SJM back that's the best news
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Surprised to see Feeney on the bench, he's only 16! Not sure how many times he's played for the U23's. Presumably Bogarde isn't available for selection as I would have thought he would have made the bench.
I like seeing some youth on the bench. When you've got a choice of 9 subs, I would expect clubs to have a mix on their bench. Even the likes of Man City so it doesn't impress me when I see Pep moaning about having 4 kids on the bench.
From @academyavfc Twitter feed
Understand that Lamare Bogarde is in the Netherlands visiting family, so wouldn’t have been available, due to current restrictions, to make it back in time to feature today.
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Predictably, sky have started the wankfest over chelski and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' already. Twats.
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This is why talk of flogging / loaning Ings is barmy.
exactly, quite happy with ings up front.suprised sanson not playing but love bertie.
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Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
They do have a good atmosphere going since they've had fans back, proper right on top of the pitch stadium.
'Intimidating' isn't a word that springs to mind on the very rare occasions I think of Brentford.
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Blimey. Quite a few missing. Covid related?
cameron on bench ;]
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Despite their poor run, Brentford give everybody a game, I thought they were the better team against Watford and kept fighting right until the end. Fortunately they've got loads of players out so there really shouldn't be any excuses but I'm still expecting a tough game.
Glad Ollie has been dropped. He needs a rest and has generally been poor in recent games despite a goal and all the effort he puts in. Having SJM back is vital to the way we play and the battle in midfield I expect today.
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Not a very good place to have a lot of youngsters on in my view as its a intimidating place to go. Hopefully they thrive under this kind of environment.
They do have a good atmosphere going since they've had fans back, proper right on top of the pitch stadium.
'Intimidating' isn't a word that springs to mind on the very rare occasions I think of Brentford.
They do have a good atmosphere going since they've had fans back, proper right on top of the pitch stadium.
Hey dude, don't be afraid...
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Surprised to see Feeney on the bench, he's only 16! Not sure how many times he's played for the U23's. Presumably Bogarde isn't available for selection as I would have thought he would have made the bench.
I like seeing some youth on the bench. When you've got a choice of 9 subs, I would expect clubs to have a mix on their bench. Even the likes of Man City so it doesn't impress me when I see Pep moaning about having 4 kids on the bench.
From @academyavfc Twitter feed
Understand that Lamare Bogarde is in the Netherlands visiting family, so wouldn’t have been available, due to current restrictions, to make it back in time to feature today.
Thanks.
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Despite their poor run, Brentford give everybody a game, I thought they were the better team against Watford and kept fighting right until the end. Fortunately they've got loads of players out so there really shouldn't be any excuses but I'm still expecting a tough game.
Glad Ollie has been dropped. He needs a rest and has generally been poor in recent games despite a goal and all the effort he puts in. Having SJM back is vital to the way we play and the battle in midfield I expect today.
Has Ollie been dropped?
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Despite their poor run, Brentford give everybody a game, I thought they were the better team against Watford and kept fighting right until the end. Fortunately they've got loads of players out so there really shouldn't be any excuses but I'm still expecting a tough game.
Glad Ollie has been dropped. He needs a rest and has generally been poor in recent games despite a goal and all the effort he puts in. Having SJM back is vital to the way we play and the battle in midfield I expect today.
Has Ollie been dropped?
I can't believe he wouldn't even have been on the bench if he was available. Has to be Covid related or a knock surely?
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Are Villa actually playing today? You wouldn't know it watching Sky so far. It's all about Lukaku.
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The Lukaku situation is interesting tbf, but not for 45 minutes.
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how come they talking bout lakuku not villa
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Nothing to do with the rumours about Arse wanting our Ollie?
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Despite their poor run, Brentford give everybody a game, I thought they were the better team against Watford and kept fighting right until the end. Fortunately they've got loads of players out so there really shouldn't be any excuses but I'm still expecting a tough game.
Glad Ollie has been dropped. He needs a rest and has generally been poor in recent games despite a goal and all the effort he puts in. Having SJM back is vital to the way we play and the battle in midfield I expect today.
Has Ollie been dropped?
No way on earth has Ollie been dropped 😂 must be illness/injury
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Surprised to see Feeney on the bench, he's only 16! Not sure how many times he's played for the U23's. Presumably Bogarde isn't available for selection as I would have thought he would have made the bench.
I like seeing some youth on the bench. When you've got a choice of 9 subs, I would expect clubs to have a mix on their bench. Even the likes of Man City so it doesn't impress me when I see Pep moaning about having 4 kids on the bench.
He's the one we got from Fleetwood.
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how come they talking bout lakuku not villa
This is exactly why I don’t want any pre match BS on Sky
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Are Villa actually playing today? You wouldn't know it watching Sky so far. It's all about Lukaku.
Ha, I was thinking the same thing.
Perhaps Sky should avoid the inconvenience of another football match impeding their discussions about the psychodrama at Chelsea and just stay with the studio for the next two hours.
Total joke.
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The Lukaku situation is interesting tbf, but not for 45 minutes.
It's ridiculous. They're not even discussing either match, just Lukaku, who isn't even playing.
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The Lukaku situation is interesting tbf, but not for 45 minutes.
half price to villa
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Other than Chelsea fans, I doubt many give a flying fuck about what lukaku is up to.
Typical Sky. Sky 6 is everything, everyone else is just making up the numbers.
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The Beast is Back.
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
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Brentford is a very scary place. Us from Streatham are especially concerned with going there and bumping into Nick “Basher” Lowe.
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
I really like the way Gerrard comes over in interviews. More so than any Villa manager for a long time.
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
weird comment about Watkins being subject of a bid; or implied that.
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
I really like the way Gerrard comes over in interviews. More so than any Villa manager for a long time.
He certainly says all the right things.
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
weird comment about Watkins being subject of a bid; or implied that.
No that was Axel.
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How good is Josh Feeney?
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
weird comment about Watkins being subject of a bid; or implied that.
No that was Axel.
I thought he was referring to Watkins as well but was only half listening.
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
Must be covid then with the 7 day isolation.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/02/manchester-united-axel-tuanzebe-loaned-to-napoli-to-end-aston-villa-spell?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
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Gerrard has said Watkins will be available for the next game.
weird comment about Watkins being subject of a bid; or implied that.
No that was Axel.
I thought he was referring to Watkins as well but was only half listening.
axel out gomez in probably
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We are stuffed today. That bench is so weak
Good too see you carrying on in the same spirit into the new year.
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Where’s this famous atmosphere?
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Brutalist looking stadium.
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Brutalist looking stadium.
To be fair, that area of Brentford hasn't exactly got a lot going for it and the brutalist concrete fits in with the M4 elevated section perfectly.
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Low key start from both teams.
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Brutalist looking stadium.
To be fair, that area of Brentford hasn't exactly got a lot going for it and the brutalist concrete fits in with the M4 elevated section perfectly.
It looks the sort of ground you would freeze your tits off even in August.
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Just got in and settled down to watch. Looking forward to this.
Gerrat em lads!
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Game hasn’t started yet
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Great play by buendia...not
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Great play by buendia...not
great shot by McGinn … not
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FFS Buendia.
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Slow start to this one is putting it mildly.
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Brutalist looking stadium.
To be fair, that area of Brentford hasn't exactly got a lot going for it and the brutalist concrete fits in with the M4 elevated section perfectly.
It looks the sort of ground you would freeze your tits off even in August.
like going oldham
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Great play by ings
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Awful game.
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Is this pitch really wide or are our players purposely nowhere near each other.
Buendia having his usual stinker.
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Bloody hell buedia. Fucking awful
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That's where Buendia looks better. On the front foot, threading through balls in the final third. He needs runners, because he's capable of finding them.
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Buendia gives the ball to Ings
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£30m on that. Absolutely robbed blind.
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Buendia 😂
1 nice pass vs 12 random no-look punts into nowhere.
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Get in.
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Front three looking decent considering we haven't put this combination out all season.
I know Buendia's given it away but he is getting involved today and nearly set up Ings for a goal so more positive on him today.
Good start. Brentford barely crossed halfway line.
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Buendia either looks very good or like a Sunday league player.
Precious little inbetween.
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Yessss
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Bloody hell buedia. Fucking awful
He nearly had an assist.
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Ings
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Goooookoooal.
Good goal.
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Yesssss!!! Ings!!!
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Get Ings!!
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Ings!!!!
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Awful start. Awful game.....oh wait get in Ings!!!!
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Is this pitch really wide or are our players purposely nowhere near each other.
Buendia having his usual stinker.
You was saying?
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Bloody hell buedia. Fucking awful
He nearly had an assist.
He just got one !! Well done emi!!
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Lovely.
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Danny boy
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Ings and Buendia having a moment. More of it please.
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Well, Buendia and Ings certainly seem on the same wavelength so far.
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Ollie doesn't score that.
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Buendia 😂
1 nice pass vs 12 random no-look punts into nowhere.
DELETE!
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what a goal this is why you keep him
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That was a great goal great build up and great finish.
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Aged well. Brilliant from Buendia, he just needs time. Patience is a lot shorter than if used to be among football fans. Brilliant finish from Ings too!
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That's a thing of beauty.
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Yeah, Buendia is terrible 🙄
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What a fooking goal.
Told you this would be Buendia's day. Worldie touch and pass.
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A special mention to Buendia for that lovely touch and turn in the run up to that goal.
Great goal
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That's where Buendia looks better. On the front foot, threading through balls in the final third. He needs runners, because he's capable of finding them.
See. Told ya!
Get the fuck in!
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I was actually just typing that Buendina will pass to more Brentford players than any Brentford player.
Then he does that !!
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THAT is why we bought Buendia and Ings.
You love to see it!
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Eat my goal.
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Class goal.
Buendia class.
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Now that’s what got us excited in the summer!
Lovely goal - but if class from them both
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Amazing work by Beundia.
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Zooooooom! Lovely touch and through ball by Buendia. Brilliant finish.
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Ollie could find himself on bench next week if ings continues like this
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What a move! What a goal!
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GETTTT INNNNN!!!!!
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More of an understanding between Buendia and Ings than Buendia and Watkins.
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Ollie doesn't score that.
Eh? Why not?
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Ollie doesn't score that.
Eh? Why not?
To be fair, Watkins probably tries to shift it back onto his right there. Ings just knew the only way he'd score that was with his left, across the keeper. Brilliant, instinctive finish.
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Great goal, the finish, the assist, the turb and the pass in to Buendia, all brilliant and tore them open.
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i was thinking if ings plays well and scores then watkins wont be starting next game
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Ollie doesn't score that.
Eh? Why not?
He does miss a fair few chances, despite being a fantastic team player
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More of an understanding between Buendia and Ings than Buendia and Watkins.
100% ollie would run wide if that was buendias pass
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Danny Ings has the knee slide on a rainy day down to a science.
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Is this pitch really wide or are our players purposely nowhere near each other.
Buendia having his usual stinker.
You was saying?
It's the kind of thing that keeps me off match threads. Some of the comments are a bit ott to say the least.
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Danny Ings has the knee slide on a rainy day down to a science.
He has got a 10/10 knee slide in his locker.
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Good goal that. Sums up Buendia's time with us so far really - two passes straight into touch and then a sublime piece of skill and through ball.
Good run by Ings and great finish with his weaker foot.
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Persistent fouling referee. Fucking book somebody
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Ollie could find himself on bench next week if ings continues like this
That’s how it should be though if Ings grabs his chance.
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Buendia is going to be an absolute super star.
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Persistent fouling referee. Fucking book somebody
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All of them
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Is this pitch really wide or are our players purposely nowhere near each other.
Buendia having his usual stinker.
You was saying?
It's the kind of thing that keeps me off match threads. Some of the comments are a bit ott to say the least.
Like the band said. Match threads are all about That's entertainment
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Really enjoying watching Ramsey play and develop.
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Why don’t our players fucking go down when their shirts being pulled?
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Ffs hause so sloppy
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Persistent fouling referee.
haven't seen one foul by referee yet?
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Great goal for Ings. Still prone to some fannying about at the back, I see.
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Persistent fouling referee.
haven't seen one foul by referee yet?
:p
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Really enjoying watching Ramsey play and develop.
Yeah he’s looking really good. If he played for Man City people would be calling for him to be in the England squad
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Luiz protected Emi well there
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That's a pen for the defender who was all over Konsa, refs need to start giving things like that without the player throwing himself to the ground or they just encourage diving.
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McGinn Tonev
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Offside anyway
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That would have broke the net.
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Buendia's assist was just sexy.
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If that was man city no booking
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Ramsey booked
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Really enjoying watching Ramsey play and develop.
Yeah he’s looking really good. If he played for Man City people would be calling for him to be in the England squad
Different players, but I think he's well ahead of where Grealish was at the same age.
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If that was man city no booking
Yup.
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If that was man city no booking
Exactly. Citeh do that 15/20 times a game and never get a card.
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This ref's a pedantic card waver.
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Chance there
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Traore in two minds there. Waste
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£30m on that. Absolutely robbed blind.
Yeah the assist and the goal by our expensive signings linking up was shite. Fuck knows what we paid that out for.
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Buendia different class.
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Traore his usual shite self. Awesome.
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£30m on that. Absolutely robbed blind.
Yeah the assist and the goal by our expensive signings linking up was shite. Fuck knows what we paid that out for.
I’m claiming that as an assist.
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Some great football
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Ings having a good game.
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Traores final ball letting him down
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Traores balls letting him down
FTFY
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£30m on that. Absolutely robbed blind.
Yeah the assist and the goal by our expensive signings linking up was shite. Fuck knows what we paid that out for.
I’m claiming that as an assist.
😂.
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Traore his usual shite self. Awesome.
What does that even mean? When has he ever been usually shit? At times he was absolutely superb and showed sublime skill. Doing things others players can’t even imagine let alone pull off. He has barely played a game and you expect him to be on top form?
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Let’s get a 2nd before HT
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Bert needs selling this month. Cash him in.
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Superb defensive work by JJ
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Traores final ball letting him down
He looks like a player who's been out a long time, which he is. At times, it looks like he's trapping a bar of soap.
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Brilliant until target messes up .need better than him
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Our transitional defense is top drawer today.
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Nice watching us keep the ball
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Bert looks like a player trying to get fit, the afcon will help us out with him.
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Bert looks like a player trying to get fit, the afcon will help us out with him.
He needs a few games to get sharp.
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Fuck sake
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Fuck off
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For fucks sake.
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1-1
Only have ourselves to fucking blame
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Fucking hell
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Fucking hell. Very poor goal to concede. Great move and finish mind you.
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Bollocks
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Targett and hause poor .
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That’s a great goal
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That was poor from us
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Targett totally sucked out of position
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Let’s get a 2nd before HT
2nd goal duly arrives but not for us! 1st shot by Brentford
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That’s what happens when you take your foot off the gas.
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Traore his usual shite self. Awesome.
What does that even mean? When has he ever been usually shit? At times he was absolutely superb and showed sublime skill. Doing things others players can’t even imagine let alone pull off. He has barely played a game and you expect him to be on top form?
It means he is usually shite barring the occasional sublime skill. I do not deny his skill, but he is not a bright player and is extremely wasteful. Add to that his lack of hustle and, for me, that equals shite. I cannot stand him as a player. Just my opinion.
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Let’s get a 2nd before HT
2nd goal duly arrives but not for us!
I knew I shouldn’t have posted that
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Hause absolutely nowhere him.
Thats why the bloke dont play
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Fuck.
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I hate these.
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That’s a great goal
Great finish but fucking poor from us
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Good finish by the lad to be fair. Completely against the run of play, but we haven't created enough chances with the possession we've had.
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We don't concede there if Mings is playing.
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FFS. These have offered absolutely nothing in the whole game to date.
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FFS. Bollocks.
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Frustrating.
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Just taken our foot off the gas and thats what happens
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We don't concede there if Mings is playing.
You might be right but I dunno, it was a fantastic first touch to take it inside.
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We don't concede there if Mings is playing.
??? like last week against Chelsea when Mings did his impersonation of a statue
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Fuck off targett
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Targett you idiot!! Suicide pass
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I think that demonstrates why Gerrard is rumoured to be after a left back. Very weak and poor from Targett.
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Targett having a mare.
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Sanson for Traore at HT. We need to hold on to the ball more
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We have controlled the game because Brentford are shit. But there has been no fluidity to our game. We haven’t punished Brentford’s shitness.
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It was a decent move by them in fairness after offering nothing for first 40 minutes.
One criticism is if Targett gets drawn in he simply has to toe the ball, instead they play it through and have space to get the cross in.
Just got to start the second half well and create some chances, front 3 been excellent so far.
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Finishing the half much the poorer side. Need the break to get focused again. That goal has shaken us.
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I think that demonstrates why Gerrard is rumoured to be after a left back. Very weak and poor from Targett.
Shit at crossing, too. Always hits the first man.
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Bert off for Sanson at HT. He wasted two efforts.
And two new full backs in the transfer window please SG.
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Thank god for HT
It was a utter collapse since the goal
Get trez on for traore
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Need Philigene-Bidace for Traore at half-time.
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Targett's final ball is woeful, it's always been his big weakness.
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They are only in it because shoddy play from us. I hope SG gets into them, this should be a straight forward 3 points against a bunch of cloggers.
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Great start, but we've messed about since the goal and got what we deserved. Big test of Gerrards game management now
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We still seem sluggish even though we dominated the first 40 minutes. Poor movement up front and Targett is their best attacker. Really disappointing to be going in level at half-time. Gerrard needs to get into them. Traore needs to get into the game.
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Just goes to show what happens when you think you are the bees knees! Thought we were all over them - what about that bit betweeen Ramsey and Burundi’s when they knocked it about between themselves about a dozen times. Can see a tirade coming from SG in the dressing room.
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Need Philigene-Bidace for Traore at half-time.
Would love to see this, but I am not sure Gerrard trusts him.
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Let’s get a 2nd before HT
Exactly. We have to learn to create chances when we're totally dominating games. It's ridiculous that we ended up hanging on after we were so much on top. Although their goal was top drawer to be fair.
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Brentford are crap.
We will win this if we concentrate.
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I think that demonstrates why Gerrard is rumoured to be after a left back. Very weak and poor from Targett.
Targett was superb with Jack because Jack was able to carry the ball and keep it on that side. Targett was able to provide adequate cover. But when Jack was out or when he is asked to do more then he ultimately shows he’s quite a limited footballer. A very decent back up but not the progressive LB we need to support the attack and competently defend.
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Final third is still our problem
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Disappointing not to be ahead at half-time. Sloppy end to the half has cost us so far.
We've looked ok, nothing special - Traore slows things down too much.
Ramsey and McGinn could dominate this more.
Ings and Buendia lively.
This is there for the taking. We need to up the tempo.
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We were on top for 40 mins but only created one chance. Bert not looking fit, which is understandable really.
We need to get better quality with our final ball and we will have chances to score second half. Jansen to score for them from a corner?
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I can't believe they're level. They hadn't had a sniff before then.
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Well that's disappointimg when we been in full control . Brentford have been shit so it looked like a comfortable three points but we need to kill these teams off and go for the jugalar .. shame young aunt in bench cause target had made four terrible things .bendia JJ and Ings been good .. just hope we don't go in our she'll and Brentford boss it now .up to Gerrard now
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Really disappointing to be only level at half-time when we were so comfortable.
We didn't create much though for all that.
Great skill by Buendia for the goal and a tidy finish from Ings.
Thought Hause, Targett and Traore were below par.
Need to get back on the front foot second half.
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Luiz is frustrating me again today. He seems to get in the way far too often.
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One thing I have noticed under SG is we’re playing much better - but we don’t seem to create a lot. Not enough quality in the final third - I can’t remember the last time we put in a dangerous cross that wasn’t a set piece.
We need better final balls and composure around the box
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Controlled the first 40 minutes nicely with Brentford chasing shadows, both goals were decent quality.
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We just weren't clinical when in complete control at 1-0 up. Idiotic sequence of passing between Buendia and Ramsey summed it up. Their equaliser came out of nowhere.
Some very strong performances out there by the likes of Buendia in particular, Ings with a great finish, Luiz and McGinn utterly dominant in midfield.
Traore unsurprising off the pace and likely to be first one hooked. Would give him another 10-15 mins though. Need Gerrard to really get into them at half time as Brentford are very much here for the taking.
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We're miles better than them ,but credit to their goal ; it was nearly as good as ours
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Traore his usual shite self. Awesome.
What does that even mean? When has he ever been usually shit? At times he was absolutely superb and showed sublime skill. Doing things others players can’t even imagine let alone pull off. He has barely played a game and you expect him to be on top form?
It means he is usually shite barring the occasional sublime skill. I do not deny his skill, but he is not a bright player and is extremely wasteful. Add to that his lack of hustle and, for me, that equals shite. I cannot stand him as a player. Just my opinion.
Semper fidelis.
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One thing I have noticed under SG is we’re playing much better - but we don’t seem to create a lot. Not enough quality in the final third - I can’t remember the last time we put in a dangerous cross that wasn’t a set piece.
We need better final balls and composure around the box
Our full backs aren't good enough at delivering at the moment. Cash can get better but Targett also needs to as well. Traore is very rusty.
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Lovely goal aside for all our possession we fannied about with it for the most part with no flow or penetration.
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My fault, I've been busy and avoided the score completely until I had chance to sit down and watch.
After 30 seconds from the commentators about how in control we were, they scored.
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Hause was ball-watching which is why the guy got his shot away. Poor.
Luiz having a bout of giving the ball away; as is Targett.
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On the plus side it was a good goal from Ings and Buendia. Luiz was involved too.
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One things for sure. Well two actually. Hause and Targett will not be in our long term plans. Gerrard will definitely be looking for upgrades in both those positions.
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Hause was ball-watching which is why the guy got his shot away. Poor.
Luiz having a bout of giving the ball away; as is Targett.
We remain our own worst enemy and that is what will frustrate Gerrard so much.
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It was always risky to sit back. Some of our passing has been woeful.
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Dominant for much of that half but not making it count in our forward play. Ramsey lost his man for their goal and Hause failed to cut out the cross. EM, MT playing well.
Great bit of skill by EM for our goal and Ings took the chance well.
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Hause was ball-watching which is why the guy got his shot away. Poor.
Luiz having a bout of giving the ball away; as is Targett.
Add Traore to that.
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I think that demonstrates why Gerrard is rumoured to be after a left back. Very weak and poor from Targett.
Targett was superb with Jack because Jack was able to carry the ball and keep it on that side. Targett was able to provide adequate cover. But when Jack was out or when he is asked to do more then he ultimately shows he’s quite a limited footballer. A very decent back up but not the progressive LB we need to support the attack and competently defend.
Tend to agree with this. He did well with Jack, but definitely a position where an upgrade is required now.
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Finally managed to get free and catch the last 10mins of the first half. Mrs & kids gone off into town, main half time dilemma was whether time for a swim, but a cold Nile Special & plate of masala chips has won out, hopefully can get into the pool at full time.
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A comfortable 26 degrees in Entebbe at 6pm.
Come on you Lions!
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It was always risky to sit back. Some of our passing has been woeful.
I wouldn't say we sat back. We had plenty of the ball but we have to learn to create chances from so much possession.
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Well that's disappointimg when we been in full control . Brentford have been shit so it looked like a comfortable three points but we need to kill these teams off and go for the jugalar .. shame young aunt in bench cause target had made four terrible things .bendia JJ and Ings been good .. just hope we don't go in our she'll and Brentford boss it now .up to Gerrard now
Bugger the football……. Tell us more about the ‘young aunt’.
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It was always risky to sit back. Some of our passing has been woeful.
Targett in Particular.
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Good start, but then just got a bit sloppy. They have only really threatened after mistakes we have made.
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Not sure about some of the comments. Luis is doing well IMO as is Buendia. Their goal was quality and it’s the only time they looked like scoring. Clearly Traore isn’t fully fit and should be replaced. Over all though I though we were really good first half
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Both sides unchanged.
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Both sides unchanged.
I would have changed out of my wet top
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It was always risky to sit back. Some of our passing has been woeful.
Targett in Particular.
Traore and Emi have been guilty. These are there for the taking we just need to put a few passes together.
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Luis Tut Tut target does ok
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Ffs Luiz!! Far too casual.
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I’m still not convinced by Luiz. No consistency.
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McGinn's arse 'trick' again. Tsk!
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I’m still not convinced by Luiz. No consistency.
Same for me with Emi.
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I’m still not convinced by Luiz. No consistency.
I'll go further Paul. I think he is really over-rated.
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I’m still not convinced by Luiz. No consistency.
Same for me with Emi.
Same with me for Villa.
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I’m still not convinced by Luiz. No consistency.
Same for me with Emi.
Same with me for Villa.
Chortle. For the last 40 years.
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Well that's disappointimg when we been in full control . Brentford have been shit so it looked like a comfortable three points but we need to kill these teams off and go for the jugalar .. shame young aunt in bench cause target had made four terrible things .bendia JJ and Ings been good .. just hope we don't go in our she'll and Brentford boss it now .up to Gerrard now
Bugger the football……. Tell us more about the ‘young aunt’.
I'll PM you pics
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Why is the ref blowing up for a cramp injury?
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Come on SG make the changes now.
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Why is this match thread turning into a “____ ______ is shite.” circle jerk?
Watch the match and try to enjoy it, ffs.
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Shoot villa
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Well that's disappointimg when we been in full control . Brentford have been shit so it looked like a comfortable three points but we need to kill these teams off and go for the jugalar .. shame young aunt in bench cause target had made four terrible things .bendia JJ and Ings been good .. just hope we don't go in our she'll and Brentford boss it now .up to Gerrard now
Bugger the football……. Tell us more about the ‘young aunt’.
Have you been on the sauce again JP ;) ?
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This has a late Brentford winner all over it.
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Somehow I can't see Gerrard doing a Tuchel/Klopp/Arteta/Conte/Ragnick and bemoaning the fact that we've got 4 U20s and a U17 on the bench today.
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Need to shake things up a bit. Goal aside we've not done much.
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Traore offside. Wasn’t a good effort anyway
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Traore lucky he was offside there as it was a pathetically poor finish
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I've been waiting for Ghoddos.
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Get Sanson on
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Get sanson and trez on
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Get Bert off. Bloody liability.
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Get sanson and trez on
Trez is NEVER the answer.
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Get Sanson on
and Bidace
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Need to shake things up a bit. Goal aside we've not done much.
Traore off, Sanson on; push Meatball further forward?
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We are so fucking slow and ponderous.
Luiz needS an age to decide whether to pass sideways or backwards.
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We just need to try and get Ings a chance. I can see us fucking this up.
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We seem to turned into a build it up slowly team and getting nowhere
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Get Bert off. Bloody liability.
Definitely time for a change, more energy needed we look lethargic
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I’d put sanson on for one of the midfielders and Chuck on for Bert
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His finishing is poor
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Ings sexy there
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Get sanson and trez on
Trez is NEVER the answer.
If the question is "who scored the goals against Arsenal and Fulham, without which we'd have been relegated" then it is.
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Not sure corner tactic of hoping 5ft 2 in Buendia to head in will work in long run.
Still decent spell from us again.
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It's a tad boring.
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Bugger. Now watching basket ball.
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Who is the ****** who has stuck the NBA on a certain streaming website?
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Get sanson and trez on
Trez is NEVER the answer.
If the question is "who scored the goals against Arsenal and Fulham, without which we'd have been relegated" then it is.
Not a popular opinion, but I love Trez.
Mind you, I always was a sucker for a tryer.
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Who is the ****** who has stuck the NBA on a certain streaming website?
It’s not even a live game..
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It's a tad boring.
67% possession 2nd half and their keeper has had nothing to do
We need subs and we need them now, Bidace has pace which is what we need
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Who is the ****** who has stuck the NBA on a certain streaming website?
Some twat with the zapper has done it to me.
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It's back on now.
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Miluwakee Bucs - Wes Edens' team
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Miluwakee Bucs - Wes Edens' team
I want to watch Villa Victors.
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McGinn getting nothing off the ref today.
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Sanson coming on.
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We just dont look like scoring
Sanson for jj
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We need to get Traore off. McGinn is anonymous too 2nd half
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I'm sick of watching promising attacking moves break down because Targett can't pass or cross.
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Get traore off ffs
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Sanson yes. But not for Ramsey FFS
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Final ball is shit every single fcukin time.
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This has got a late Brentford winner written all over it
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Thought Bertie was getting into the game and then played that shit pass
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Sanson yes. But not for Ramsey FFS
Should've been for Luiz.
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Probably time to pull Traore off now.
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Traore is so narrow. Offering no support to Cash
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Leon Bailey would’ve made the difference today.
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Very flat.Have our fans come back from half time?
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These are the games we need to take by the scruff of the neck and fucking win if we ever want to progress. Too many of these games are let 'drift' by us.
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What a fucking shit game of football this is.
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We're not scoring again in this match. Need to make sure we get the point.
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What a fucking shit game of football this is.
Dreadful.
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Get traore off ffs
Trez coming on, why not Bidace
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Chuck on for Bert.
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Trez for Bert?
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Hardly any chances in this half.
Half tempted to throw Archer on last ten minutes.
We're still dominating midfield area so would be tempted to try two upfront to end the game.
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Trez time
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Probably time to pull Traore off now.
in the shower yes
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Martinez saves us
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Sanson beilliant just saved us. Emi great save
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Trez about to come on. Hmmm.
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We look like a team who have played 10 games this month and running on empty.
Very little energy and no pace
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I have no idea why traore is still on. Guys going AFCON and he looks finished.
Get him off Gerrard
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Big let off there, Emi wondering what the hell is going on.
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Great save, but what a shite half of football.
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Sanson tackled.
Ambulance at the ready
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That could be a broken arm for Buendia
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Buendia looks injured. Great
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Buendia looks fucked. Like his arm was pulled awkwardly
Mind you being pulled up by his arms on both sides probably wasn’t the best idea
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It’s not a very good game is it?
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People wank over these lot. I think they are dirty cloggers.
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The frustrating thing is Brentford are crap.
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Brentford fans passing me off. Whinging and whining at every single decision that don't go there way. Typical small club mentality.
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It’s not a very good game is it?
No. Its the kind of game that we don't want lose.
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Ffs leefs scored
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Trez on.
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Yes that arm didn't look good.
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Ffs leefs scored
?
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Looked to me like Norgaard pulled Emi's arm underneath his body deliberately
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Trez coming on is a travesty.
You play the talented youth players over a Championship journey man.
New manager bounce fading for SG.
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Finally took that one-footed donkey off.
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Trez on.
Trez and Traore should be nowhere near the team, both off to AFCON after today
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Hows that not a booking??
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They’re quite dirty aren’t they too?
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Looked to me like Norgaard pulled Emi's arm underneath his body deliberately
I thought that. Looked clear to me. The dirty bastard.
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Oh shit
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OBVIOUSLY
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For fucks sake. Again.
I wish I had gone to bed instead.
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Wtf
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All fucking hauses fault
You fucking idiot
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We have really tossed this away
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That's been coming for a while. Fucking awful.
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Getting what we deserve - self inflicted again giving the ball away
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Hmm - this has been awful this house and was completely obvious that would happen
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Trez on.
Trez and Traore should be nowhere near the team, both off to AFCON after today
This. SG should be developing the youth players.
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Of course.
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Fucking dire!
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Oh billfold.
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Really really poor.
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I fucking hate these bastards. Like, FUCKING HATE them.
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Rubbish if we lose this, just not done enough second half.
Brentford jinx looks like it continues.
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What a fucking shambles.
We have constantly given the ball away this half.
Brentford have done nothing and yet we are losing.
Gerrard needs to be busy in January because this team is bang average at best.
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Predictable. Maybe we'll finally show a bit of urgency.
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Same old same old
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Why am I not surprised?
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Gerrards worst game with us.
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We are fucking miles from being a good team. Miles.
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Hause is dog shit
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No coming back here.
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Hmm - this has been awful this house and was completely obvious that would happen
Got to blame Gerrard - subs too late and wrong choice with Trez
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We look shocking, tired and shoddy.
How could we look so good in the first half and then throw it away like this?
Simply dreadful.
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This has been a disgraceful performance
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Hmm. First big test for SG this then. Expected to lose the games we've lost so far. Not this one though.
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Second game we have taken the lead and lost all 3 points. Relegation form.
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Trez on.
Trez and Traore should be nowhere near the team, both off to AFCON after today
This. SG should be developing the youth players.
Spot on!
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Awful match, we have got worse as this match has gone on. Midfield is not strong enough
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I fucking hate these bastards. Like, FUCKING HATE them.
No need to hate them - hate ourselves for being so bloody arrogant and believing we could walk this
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Trez on.
Trez and Traore should be nowhere near the team, both off to AFCON after today
This. SG should be developing the youth players.
Some of you are very harsh on Gerrard given that 12 of our 22 points have come with him in charge of 8 of our 19 games.
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What a fucking shambles.
We have constantly given the ball away this half.
Brentford have done nothing and yet we are losing.
Gerrard needs to be busy in January because this team is bang average at best.
Xmas has knocked stuffing out of our season.
Had real momentum after Norwich win so of course we have to play the hardest game of the three over xmas while the other two winnable ones get called off.
With Man. United coming out twice probably just going to be stuck in mid table now even if we win a few games in February and March.
Just the life of a Villa fan as ever.
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Same old Villa. FFS.
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Second game we have taken the lead and lost all 3 points. Relegation form.
Oh fuck off
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Ings should have scored simple ast that
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In no way is this Gerrard’s fault.
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And, we miss way, way too many fucking chances, like that one.
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This is on SG.
Very much in the Dean Smith school of shite game management and tactics.
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Second game we have taken the lead and lost all 3 points. Relegation form.
Oh fuck off
You can cut that out.
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I fucking hate these bastards. Like, FUCKING HATE them.
No need to hate them - hate ourselves for being so bloody arrogant and believing we could walk this
They are a proper bogey side going back to our time in the championship.
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We are losing so why is Chuk coming on, should be Bidace, Archer or AEG
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I fucking hate these bastards. Like, FUCKING HATE them.
No need to hate them - hate ourselves for being so bloody arrogant and believing we could walk this
Precisely. It’s ALL down to our lack of urgency. Strolling through the game without showing any real quality
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Hmm - this has been awful this house and was completely obvious that would happen
Got to blame Gerrard - subs too late and wrong choice with Trez
Yeah, he didn't get those right. Awful football match on the whole.
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This is on SG.
Very much in the Dean Smith school of shite game management and tactics.
Mor because we have a donley in central defence. How hard is it to hoof a ball into space. Korney hause is like bambi on ice
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Some terrible control
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Trez on.
Trez and Traore should be nowhere near the team, both off to AFCON after today
This. SG should be developing the youth players.
Spot on!
Luiz no more than a 4/10 he's just swanned through this game with almost zero input. Shocking.
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Do we have to ship late winners to these sugarbags forever. For ever ever?
The price we have to pay for signing their best players, it seems.
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We are missing Mings today. A lot.
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All Brentford have done this half is run faster and press harder. We don't have the quality to deal with it consistently.
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Luis has been absolutely piss fucking poor again today
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So fucking predictable.
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We look shocking, tired and shoddy.
How could we look so good in the first half and then throw it away like this?
Simply dreadful.
We've done it for years. It's just the villa way. We've always lost games like this and this is where Gerrard needs to earn his money. In his own words "we need to stop being a win one, draw one and lose one team"
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Mcginn banned for utd. Ffs
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Don't get putting Trez on when he hasn't played for nearly a year.
Archer or Carney would've been sharper there.
Probably Gerrard's weakest half of game management so far.
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McGinn had to be crossing that
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Archer should have been brought on instead.
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We've played like we thought we were Billy big bollocks most of the game, absolutely no urgency whatsoever and got exactly what we deserve. Absolute dirge
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Are Brentford really better than us
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We have to accept, we are a mid-table side with many mid-table players. Several aren't good enough and we need to build under Gerrard. We are our own worst enemy. Slow and ponderous going forward, over-play in dangerous areas. Not enough quality.
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McGinn out for Man. United league game. Great.
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We r shit.
Im so pissed off when you fucking do shit like this. In complete control then collapse.
I hope gerrard ruins them at full time they deserve it
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Luis has been absolutely piss fucking poor again today
Ramsay, Martinez, Konsa and Ings apart. every other player has been piss poor
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Not good enough today.
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Five minutes of Steven time, is it?
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We r shit.
Im so pissed off when you fucking do shit like this. In complete control then collapse.
I hope gerrard ruins them at full time they deserve it
Needs to look at himself in the mirror as well. Gerrard has to take a share of the blame for this. Undone by arrogance
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Luis has been absolutely piss fucking poor again today
Ramsay, Martinez, Konsa and Ings apart. every other player has been piss poor
Agreed. Too many basic errors.
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Buendia is surprisingly good in the air
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We r shit.
Im so pissed off when you fucking do shit like this. In complete control then collapse.
I hope gerrard ruins them at full time they deserve it
We really miss Watkins energy and pressing up front
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I don’t know which is more frustrating, watching the Villa or reading the absolute bollocks posted on here
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SJM ain't been that good to be fair
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Doug constantly fouling the keeper when we get a corner.
Brainless second half.
Bunedia MOTM today.
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I don’t know which is more frustrating, watching the Villa or reading the absolute bollocks posted on here
It's all part of the match day 'experience'. I love it.
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I don’t know which is more frustrating, watching the Villa or reading the absolute bollocks posted on here
one tends to lead the other
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Embarra
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Pathetic Trez, you had the chance to cross as well.
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Trez needs sending off for that
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Piss poor second half. Too soft. Midfield missing in action, Dean Smith midfield performance today I'm afraid. Gerrard will be fuming.
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I don’t know which is more frustrating, watching the Villa or reading the absolute bollocks posted on here
Don’t do either and you’ll have a better day :)
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Pathetic trez
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Fuck me Trez, where exactly is the sniper? WUSS.
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Trez your an embarrassment
Get out of the club. I dont want to see shit like this
Disgrace
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Embarrassing Trez
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Oh dear
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You wanker, Trezeguet.
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Trez should never play for the club again. Not only embarrassing but we're on the attack in the last kinute while losing
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Eesh
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Why the fuck didn't he stay on his feet but he acted the cnut .fuck him off
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Trez, that was poor
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Haha, that was comical. What a bellend.
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Trez stay in Africa please.
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Gutless
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I never want to see trez play forus again you absolutely cheating bastard
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Wtf is Trez doing, he still had the ball. Knob
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We lose so many. I wish we could grind out the odd draw.
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Luiz showing some urgency in the last 10 minutes. Say no more.
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I don’t think Gerrard will be fooled by Trez masquerading as a footballer for very long.
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Fuck off Villa. Just fuck right off.
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Utter bollox
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Cant wait to get rid of smiths shit like hause and trez. Absolutely shit players
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Too sloppy in our defensive positions.
Gaps all over the place, not tight enough on their midfield and forwards.
Lethargic going forward, no snap or spark.
However, we've had several opportunities that we failed to put away and on the balance of play should have taken all 3 points.
Nothing on the bench to change the game.
5 kids and Trez coming back from injury tells a story.
Our squad needs improving both in terms in both ability and depth.
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there wasn't enough fight in that performance. Weak as a pint of Fosters.
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Absolutely pathetic by Trezeguet then.
Traore was the wrong choice today. Need to address this still…
Missed Watkins energy too.
Hause shocking.
Argh
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Trez should never play for the club again. Not only embarrassing but we're on the attack in the last kinute while losing
Don't want cheats playing for Villa. Revolting.
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Tree you stupid cheating wanker.
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We have to accept, we are a mid-table side with many mid-table players. Several aren't good enough and we need to build under Gerrard. We are our own worst enemy. Slow and ponderous going forward, over-play in dangerous areas. Not enough quality.
I agree to this: When accepting things as they are its easier to live with it :)
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We were comfortably on top until they scored. Even in the 2nd half Brentford did little but we didn't create enough with too many players being ineffecrive. We were poor and they were worse and we still lost.
Trez's moment was laughable. He must know the camera will spot him. If he'd stood up he'd still have had the ball in the area.