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Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 02, 2022, 12:19:32 AM
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Evetything in the UK postponed until the end of the month. Happy New Year.
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My hopes for 2022, Conor Benn fights for a world title, Daniel Dubois proves once again he is possibly a future heavyweight champion and we finally get to see Fury and Joshua in the ring. Not holding my breath on the last one.
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Good day if you're a sports fan, 12.30 Harriers v West Ham, 4.45 Scotland v England and tonight boxing in the UK returns from Cardiff with Eubank v Williams topping the bill, on the undercard Caroline Dubois, Daniel's sister, makes her professional debut, starts 7.30 on Sky.
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That bit of play-acting was as cringeworthy as anything WWF could throw up.
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Williams v Eubank Jnr.....should be a good 'un!
What do we think?
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This is fucking embarrassing.
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This is fucking embarrassing.
Strange build up.....come on the taffy!
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That was one of the strangest fights I've ever seen.
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That last round, hilarious. When Jnr was dancing around the ring, no point standing there watching with your hands on your hips when you’re losing.
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Who's watching tonight, then?
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Danny Dignum looked good last night; it'll be interesting to compare Felix Cash against a similar opponent tonight.
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Khan v Brook on Saturday. This fight has came about years too late but will still be worth watching. Sky Box Office is a bit of a piss take though. Especially as the undercard is somewhat underwhelming.
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Khan v Brook on Saturday. This fight has came about years too late but will still be worth watching. Sky Box Office is a bit of a piss take though. Especially as the undercard is somewhat underwhelming.
Yep years way too late, would have loved to see them in their prime and won't be paying 25 notes to Sky. I'm sure to find a little river to watch though.
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loser should be forced to retire
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loser should be forced to retire
I thought they both had.
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The press conference yesterday was shocking. I wasn’t exactly expecting intelligent discourse but this was unfunny shit. If a footballer, or any other sports person had spouted this kind of homophobic shite before a game, there would be uproar. Fuck the pair of them
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loser should be forced to retire
I thought they both had.
I think they did.
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Khan v Brook is everything that is wrong about boxing for me, 100% is 7/8/9 years late but the likes of Hearn manipulate the scenario for their personal gains & tolerate/encourage this ridiculous fake trash talking for PPV sales. There’s no way this hatred is not manufactured, if they really felt that way the fight would have happened when they were champion standard not when they are in retirement fund mode.
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BBC boxing pundit Steve Bunce is predicted a great fight, sadly I don't think that will be the case, but having said that I'm still forking out £20 to watch it.
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What a performance from Brad Rea ko in less than 2 mins of the 1st round.
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Are you paying Sky for this?
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Are you paying Sky for this?
No and I want my money back so far.
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Mr Grealish is there
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What a performance from Natasha Jonas
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The phrase 'shot to bits' seems to apply here.
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Yes Khan was gone a long time ago.
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That was sad to see.
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Khan has always had a dodgy chin but that was quite sad tonight, Brook was very good and knew exactly how to win that.
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Total domination from Kell, glad the ref stepped in before Khan was severely hurt.
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No need for a rematch either, can't see any other outcome.
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It’s sad with Khan - an incredibly skilful fighter and formerly world class. But I feel he never reached his potential.
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I enjoyed that. Not been a Khan fan, feel like he's been hyped beyond his ability. Brook has been a better fighter for me.
Khan has to be done now. Surely. As for Brook, he should quit too. He doesn't need to do it any more.
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First round was one of the most explosive starts I've seen for a big fight, but from round 2 onwards there was only gonna be one winner, fair play to Khan he took some punishment but going to the end, but it must be retirement now for him.
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I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.
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Total domination from Kell, glad the ref stepped in before Khan was severely hurt.
Yeah, it was a good stoppage. One fight too far for Khan against an opponent who seemingly still had something left in the tank.
Should be Brook's last fight as well as fighting some of the names being mentioned post fight would be a completely different proposition, but I guess the lure of one more big payday is tough to turn down.
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Enjoyed the fight. Glad Brook won, I’ve never been a Kahn fan really. But fair play he went out on his shield , took some great shots and a honest and respectful interview afterwards. Refreshing to see a loving fighter say they’d had a great camp. Usually there’s excuses.
Khan has to retire , Brook should. Eubank is too big for him.
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I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.
Now that's a fight I would like to see.
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I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.
He’s said he “Doesn’t like Eubank” now, so might go looking for that.
I don’t really follow boxing, but from what little I’ve read Eubank jr would be too good
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Brook was better than I expected & Khan was worse than I expected. As previously mentioned the fight should've happened years ago. They've both made a lot of money & both are healthy so time to walk away with their heads held high.
Sadly I can see Brook being tempted with another lucrative payday! Hope I'm wrong!
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I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.
He’s said he “Doesn’t like Eubank” now, so might go looking for that.
I don’t really follow boxing, but from what little I’ve read Eubank jr would be too good
And way too big.
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Blimey that was like 2 blokes fighting outside the pub after both having 10 pints of strong ale.
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Blimey that was like 2 blokes fighting outside the pub after both having 10 pints of strong ale.
Yep, bizarre stuff. That Puerto Rican kid looked good though and the Taylor fight should be good.
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Time for Josh Taylor - surely Britain’s best boxer at the moment? Hope I haven’t jinxed him now :-)
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I think it'll be too one-sided to be good, but Taylor will be worth watching.
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Macklin is desperate for Caterall to win…,must have a few quid on him
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Could be an upset on the cards here. Some might not have given Taylor a round yet.
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;Unless Catterall blows up here, can't see Taylor turning it round.
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I think it'll be too one-sided to be good, but Taylor will be worth watching.
Every bloody time.
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I think it'll be too one-sided to be good, but Taylor will be worth watching.
Every bloody time.
Me too Dave :-)
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Taylor surely needs a stoppage.
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Don’t think the ref would take much encouragement to stop him if Taylor does tag him in next couple of rounds
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Oh that is an absolute fucking disgrace.
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That's a joke of a decision
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What a disgrace that was. Fuck me.
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Thought commentators were going OTT on Catterall being miles ahead as 5/6/7 rounds were flip of coin decisions but over 12 rounds he was surely 2/3 clear
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No. Surely not. Amazing. Corrupt. Insane.
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What a decision!
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That’s a shocker.
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These sort of decisions are what kill boxing.
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Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards
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Boxing is corrupt no doubt, I couldn't believe it when one judge gave the fight to Taylor but two? No fucking way.
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Even the one who gave it Caterall would have given it as a draw if the ref hadn’t took that late point off Taylor….embarrassing
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Robbery. Absolute bloody downright robbery. Time and again and again this is happening.
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Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards
Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
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They were three of our best and experienced refs as well.
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Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards
Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
Or a fight in Las Vegas involving a Mexican.
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Boxing is corrupt no doubt, I couldn't believe it when one judge gave the fight to Taylor but two? No fucking way.
And one by three rounds!
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Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards
Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
Absolutely German / Italian where we always took morale high ground that is was ‘homers’ or promoters decisions but these mob are as bad
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Taylor landed 85 punches Catterall 166
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Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards
Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
Absolutely German / Italian where we always took morale high ground that is was ‘homers’ or promoters decisions but these mob are as bad
I agree, that was totally unacceptable.
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Taylor is the undisputed light-welterweight world champion, I would dispute that.
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Sad thing is last night's farce would have turned a lot of people off boxing.
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Sad thing is last night's farce would have turned a lot of people off boxing.
Thins like last night and the F1 debacle really, really, really piss me off more than they probably should.
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Robert McCracken's instructions just needs a Yamaha keyboard beat behind them and they could be a Sleaford Mods track :-)
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Sad thing is last night's farce would have turned a lot of people off boxing.
Thins like last night and the F1 debacle really, really, really piss me off more than they probably should.
To be fair mate, I think the paying public being taken for fools is enough to make you pissed off.
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If anyone's interested there's a free stream of a Fightzone bill tonight here. https://www.fightzone.uk/play/7758c358-2293-45ce-a363-1eaebfa7f16b_5D3C77b
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Following on from above, you can sign up for Fightzone free until the end of April; they have some good small hall bills most weeks. https://www.fightzone.uk/
Boxing News is also available at an introductory £13 for thirteen issues. https://subscription.kelsey.co.uk/boxing-news-try-something-new-in-2022/?source=tsn22bxnppc&utm_source=brand&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=boxing-news&utm_term=tsn22bxnppc&gclid=CjwKCAiAg6yRBhBNEiwAeVyL0DEn09CWbMtqThjN8kTD76KDh8K5KmeUm2A0PJAzcWY9t1PREdEdmBoC4R4QAvD_BwE
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What a fight, and what a finish.
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Just listened to it, sounded a brutal fight with a finish to back it up
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What a fight, and what a finish.
The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.
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What a fight, and what a finish.
The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.
If you look at it again Conlan was collapsing before the final punches. He was absolutely spent and I hope he's alright.
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What a fight, and what a finish.
The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.
If you look at it again Conlan was collapsing before the final punches. He was absolutely spent and I hope he's alright.
That's what I mean, it looked like he literally couldn't stand up any more before the punches rather than being knocked out. As long as he didn't fall awkwardly out of the ring you would assume he'd be okay, it's not like he was taking a beating that should have been stopped earlier.
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It's reckoned that he hit his head on a seat, but reports also say he's conscious and stable in hospital.
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What a fight, and what a finish.
The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.
If you look at it again Conlan was collapsing before the final punches. He was absolutely spent and I hope he's alright.
Yeah, I still remember Benn-McLellan vividly and all these occasions where the fighters go down in weird ways is always worrying. Hope he's OK. You do feel he had that fight won and needlessly got into a war in the last couple of rounds, but obviously thought he had it in him to trade.
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I've just seen a reverse angle and Conlan was hit by an almighty right hand before the final two punches that had him out of the ring.
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I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
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Not sure if I'll be watching any boxing tonight, watching England beat Switzerland is probably enough excitement for one night!
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I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Not keen Dave?
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Good shot from Riakpohe to get that fight done
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What a performance from Josh Warrington - absolutely brilliant - well done in regaining his world title
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I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Not keen Dave?
Horrible, dirty fighter with horrible, dirty supporters.
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I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Not keen Dave?
Horrible, dirty fighter with horrible, dirty supporters.
I assume you're referring to Luke Ayling there, who cemented his reputation as being a bit of a tit. The whole Leeds United thing with Warrington is very cringeworthy, and I see your point about dirty because the first headbutt definitely helped him on his way. It didn't look deliberate to me though.
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Very impressive from Savannah Marshall, Claressa Shields next.
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Sky Sports are showing Hearns v Hagler now.
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Tonight BBC are showing a documentary by US film maker Ken Burns on Muhammad Ali, as there have probably been more programmes on Ali than anybody else, not sure how much it is gonna tell us that we don't already know. It has however had very good reviews, it starts from his childhood 8 programmes in all BBC2 10.20pm.
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Fightzone are showing a bill this afternoon headed by a British flyweight title fight and it's free for three months.
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Did anyone watch Triple G just now? Murata hit him with a liver shot in the second and he just withered, and I thought this was going to be when he really got old. But GGG does what GGG does and domanted after the 4th. I would still steer clear of Canelo if I were him though.
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Daniel Kinehan has been hit with sanctions by the US government. I'd say there's a few boxing people getting twitchy.
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Did anyone watch Triple G just now? Murata hit him with a liver shot in the second and he just withered, and I thought this was going to be when he really got old. But GGG does what GGG does and domanted after the 4th. I would still steer clear of Canelo if I were him though.
Anywhere but Vegas, LA or Mexico, and he won that first fight between them, for me. In a rather sad move, I even scored it, and had GGG the winner by four rounds. I also scored the second and made it a draw, but by the time the cards were announced, I'd given up on a fair judges' decision in a Canelo fight.
Canelo is a great fighter, but he's also dodgy as fuck, imo. No chance Golovkin beats him without a stoppage, and, credit to Canelo's chin, that would've happened by now in one of the first two.
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Three cards on TV tonight which is daft given how many weekends we go without. Connor Benn should win easily.
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Conor Benn fighting last night and it wasn't on Sky or BT pathetic.
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Watched Nathan Heaney….like when you used to watch Paul Warhurst play up front for Wednesday and think ‘how does that work’ he’s game but will surely get found out at some point against a proper fighter
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Conor Benn fighting last night and it wasn't on Sky or BT pathetic.
Just as well. DAZN are welcome to it.
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Is Benn jnr the same weight classification as Eubank jnr?
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Is Benn jnr the same weight classification as Eubank jnr?
He's welter, Eubank is middle.
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Is Benn jnr the same weight classification as Eubank jnr?
He's welter, Eubank is middle.
Thanks, Dave.
Not really up on boxing, makes sense as to why a Eubank jnr vrs Benn jnr hasn’t really been hyped up
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Adam Smith on Sky trying to make a case for Dillian Whyte winning on Saturday, hasn't convinced me.
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Sam Maxwell just lost an absolute war to Alejandro Meneses.
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And a very impressive win for Paul Butler in a nice warm-up for tomorrow night.
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Anybody going for Whyte, some bookies are offering 4/1 for a surprise.
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I'd love it, but it won't happen.
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Hard not to like Tyson Fury, tickling your opponent at the weigh in has to be a first.
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The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
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The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.
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The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
Well Warren likes to save a penny or two, perhaps he got the cds from the charity shop
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The trouble with a fight like this is that all the casuals want to watch, and overload the streams for us hardcore freeloaders. Where are you lot for a WBO European title bill on DAZN?
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The trouble with a fight like this is that all the casuals want to watch, and overload the streams for us hardcore freeloaders. Where are you lot for a WBO European title bill on DAZN?
Nowhere to be seen of course, although my stream keeps stopping so I'm somewhat hoisted by my own petard.
After his jingoistic nonsense in the CL, Darren Fletcher did well to try and make an average fight interesting just now. My eyes kept wandering to the ringside where other than Warren I saw Alan Davies, two blokes who never stopped rabbiting, what looked like the Ann Darwin, the canoe blokes wife and also what looked like Adele in a bridal head dress.
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The trouble with a fight like this is that all the casuals want to watch, and overload the streams for us hardcore freeloaders. Where are you lot for a WBO European title bill on DAZN?
Being Germany based, I only watch the DAZN ones! I'm missing out on tonight's one, but it should be Fury's if he's still up for it.
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Never bother with PPV or searching for streams - if it’s any good will watch later in week when it’s on the channel I already pay for. Is the undercard as average as expected?
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Listening to the fight on Talksport as my stream has stopped.
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Big uppercut from Tyson.
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https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153
The final punch
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What a punch. Lights out.
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Sadly as I thought would happen, Whyte was totally outclassed.
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Never bother with PPV or searching for streams - if it’s any good will watch later in week when it’s on the channel I already pay for. Is the undercard as average as expected?
At best it was average.
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BT pundits are saying the golf he's been playing, may have helped Fury produce that uppercut, well that's a new one on me.
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BT pundits are saying the golf he's been playing, may have helped Fury produce that uppercut, well that's a new one on me.
I think the fact that Whyte seemed scared to attack him had more to do with it.
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https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153
The final punch
Lots of people commenting who've clearly never taken a punch to the jaw that rattles the brain stem. A flyweight landing that would probably have dropped Whyte, let alone a 6ft9, 18 stone man.
As Dave said, big fights draw out the casuals who think Rocky is an accurate depiction of boxing. (Not aimed at anyone here, of course.)
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https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153
The final punch
Lots of people commenting who've clearly never taken a punch to the jaw that rattles the brain stem. A flyweight landing that would probably have dropped Whyte, let alone a 6ft9, 18 stone man.
As Dave said, big fights draw out the casuals who think Rocky is an accurate depiction of boxing. (Not aimed at anyone here, of course.)
On here? I don't think anyone has downplayed how good a punch it was, personally I was impressed that Whyte got back up but he was clearly not all there. All my point was trying to say is that after 5 years waiting and all the noise he's made Whyte never, in my opinion, really tried to land anything, that's a credit to Fury who makes himself really difficult to fight but also shows Whyte up for what he really is, that's he been the mandatory challenger for so long shows how weak the division is.
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https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153
The final punch
Lots of people commenting who've clearly never taken a punch to the jaw that rattles the brain stem. A flyweight landing that would probably have dropped Whyte, let alone a 6ft9, 18 stone man.
As Dave said, big fights draw out the casuals who think Rocky is an accurate depiction of boxing. (Not aimed at anyone here, of course.)
On here? I don't think anyone has downplayed how good a punch it was, personally I was impressed that Whyte got back up but he was clearly not all there. All my point was trying to say is that after 5 years waiting and all the noise he's made Whyte never, in my opinion, really tried to land anything, that's a credit to Fury who makes himself really difficult to fight but also shows Whyte up for what he really is, that's he been the mandatory challenger for so long shows how weak the division is.
No, sorry Paul, I meant comments on Twitter.
I think Whyte's a good, strong fighter, but I agree, I never saw him as a threat to Fury, which is why I didn't pay for the fight.
Wouldn't mind seeing Whyte against Wilder.
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The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.
I actually had the first ‘Now that’s what I call music’ LP.
Long gone now though, probably worth a fortune
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The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.
I actually had the first ‘Now that’s what I call music’ LP.
Long gone now though, probably worth a fortune
About a tenner to be honest.
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Pretty routine win for Fury last night. All his talk about retirement frustrates me, especially when it isn’t really genuine.
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I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.
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The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.
I actually had the first ‘Now that’s what I call music’ LP.
Long gone now though, probably worth a fortune
About a tenner to be honest.
You’re probably right 😂
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I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.
That's my hope too.
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I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.
That's my hope too.
Would prefer it if Joshua convincingly beats Usyk in their rematch then Fury fights Joshua. Would actually then make sense for Fury to retire, as there would be nothing left for him to tick off really.
Despite Joshua's recent struggles, it would still be an absolutely huge fight, with all the heavyweight belts on the line if Joshua were to beat Usyk.
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I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.
That's my hope too.
Would prefer it if Joshua convincingly beats Usyk in their rematch then Fury fights Joshua. Would actually then make sense for Fury to retire, as there would be nothing left for him to tick off really.
Despite Joshua's recent struggles, it would still be an absolutely huge fight, with all the heavyweight belts on the line if Joshua were to beat Usyk.
Agreed, I can't see either of them challenging Fury, but think AJ stands a better chance.
Having said that, I think Usyk has AJ on toast. That fight wasn't a Ruiz-style fluke, it was a schooling. I can't see it, but I hope AJ regains his belts.
Then Fury vs AJ. For all the belts. At Villa Park 😁
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I think Fury would only want a unification fight vrs Joshua as his next, and final, fight.
He certainly won’t want any mandatory challengers.
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Yep no way on earth is Joshua winning the rematch. He's just not a good enough boxer.
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If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(
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If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(
Killing you softly with his song...
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If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(
Killing you softly with his song...
There's nothing soft about Fury's singing!
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So, Dillian Whyte is saying he only lost because Fury pushed him after the knockout punch?
He was ok with giving Fury the elbows and head buts, though!
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There's a decent bill on Fightzone tonight, and it's free.
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Tonight Katie Taylor v Amanda Serrano is been called 'The biggest fight in the history of women's boxing' taking place at Madison Square Garden. The bad news is on DAZN, so you have to pay for it.
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Kell Brook announces his retirement, I think he really means it, unlike a certain heavyweight, who I am pretty certain, we will see again back in the boxing ring.
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If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(
Killing you softly with his song...
There's nothing soft about Fury's singing!
It was a Don McLean reference as much as a Fury one. :)
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Bivol is going to give Canello a heck of a fight 🥊 I imagine they won't let the Russian win if it goes the distance .
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I'm glad they scored fair and how underestimated Bivol is now boxing world sees he's great
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Great that the drug cheating bastard lost.
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Great that the drug cheating bastard lost.
But Bivol's RUSSIAN!!! >:(
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As expected Amir Khan has now confirmed he is retiring, a very talented boxer, unfortunately a glass chin stopped him from becoming a great one.
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As expected Amir Khan has now confirmed he is retiring, a very talented boxer, unfortunately a glass chin stopped him from becoming a great one.
That's good. He was only going one way and should have retired years ago. His legacy is the amount of young Asian boxers we now have.
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Martin Bakole on the verge of an upset against Tony Yoka.
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Local girl Lisa O'Rourke, 20 wins gold at the Women's World Boxing Championships along with compatriot Amy Broadhurst.
Lisa follows in the footsteps of her sister Aoife who was a European champion at middleweight and it's not often Roscommon gets mentioned on BBC Sport. :) https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/61515465
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Anyone watching Buatsi v Richards?
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David Haye has appeared in court charged with assault, a trial date has been set for September.
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I'd missed out on this one but it looks good news. https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12620205/mexican-boxer-alejandra-ayala-wakes-from-induced-coma-following-hannah-rankin-fight
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This one is bad news
Simiso Buthelezi has passed away after becoming disoriented during a bout
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/300609168/south-african-boxer-who-became-disoriented-in-fight-dies
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This one is bad news
Simiso Buthelezi has passed away after becoming disoriented during a bout
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/300609168/south-african-boxer-who-became-disoriented-in-fight-dies
That's awful. Poor guy.
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After 10 months without a fight, Daniel Dubois is at last getting back in the ring. He fights Trevor Bryan, who has won all his 22 fights, tonight in Miami for the WBA (Regular) Heavyweight title. Unusually fight is due to start around tea-time in Florida and sometime after 11pm our time and is on BT Sport starting at 7pm. Talk is if Dubois wins, he might get the chance to fight the winner of AJ v Usyk.
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Three bills on TV tonight, including Ijaz Ahmed from Bordesley Green fighting for the British flyweight title.
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Lauren Price very impressive on her debut.
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Lauren Price very impressive on her debut.
You should have watched the other side. I've got it 114-113 Khademi.
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And it was a draw.
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Hopefully Riakpohe is better boxing than the twatty ring walk
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Answer is great shot, good corner work to stop it…
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Hopefully Riakpohe is better boxing than the twatty ring walk
You could say that. Now over to BT.
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Hopefully Riakpohe is better boxing than the twatty ring walk
You could say that. Now over to BT.
Snap, this seems a good fight
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Great result for Davies against the odds but once again what fight was Terry O'Connor watching?
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Two really good fights on BT tonight. FranK Warren can still put a good bill together.
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Two really good fights on BT tonight. FranK Warren can still put a good bill together.
Saw half of each and what I watched was very good. Let’s see what Dubois can do
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I enjoy BT's fight coverage. It proves that it's not about big names but 2 evenly matched fighters.
This Bryan/Dubois fight should be interesting.
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Muhammed Ali v Oscar Bonavena on Sky.
I think the latter was shot and killed.
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Tough sell on tickets for Dubois v Bryan then….
….is there anyone there?
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Is it in the local high school gym or something??!
What a pathetic venue
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Is it in the local high school gym or something??!
What a pathetic venue
It matches the fight.
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Even the post Ruiz timid Joshua would knock this fella out.
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How is this guy an unbeaten champion.
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I reckon Dangerous Daz Woolley would have them both on the same night.
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Christ that's a big thud. I mean a really big thud lol
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Christ that's a big thud. I mean a really big thud lol
18 1/2 stone just hit the canvas. What did you expect?
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The lack of a crowd in there made it louder than I expected I think. And he's never only 18.5... That guys way over 20st surely.
What an awful fight. They just said there are 3 more fights in there after this one, was it not even top of the card? Proper strange.
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What a hopeless opponent in a hopeless arena…guess Miami is not a fight town.
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Glad I didn't pay to watch that, heavyweight champion you're having a laugh. Anyway well done Dubois, moving into the big league now.
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Dubois doesn't seem the sharpest tac in the box does he. Love them or hate them, Fury and Joshua are clearly fairly switched on, this guy just doesn't seem like he's got the same thought process.
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The lack of a crowd in there made it louder than I expected I think. And he's never only 18.5... That guys way over 20st surely.
What an awful fight. They just said there are 3 more fights in there after this one, was it not even top of the card? Proper strange.
The top of the bill is never the last fight. They always have a couple that fit in as & when to keep the TV fights on schedule.
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Muhammed Ali v Oscar Bonavena on Sky.
I think the latter was shot and killed.
I remember watching that fight as a kid. BBC used to show the whole fight the following night in the early 70s
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Anyone watching tonight?
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Joshua v Usyk will take place, sadly, in Saudi Arabia on Sat 20 August, Sky have confirmed.
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A good night of boxing starts at 7 on sky, lots of new kids including Azim.
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A good night of boxing starts at 7 on sky, lots of new kids including Azim.
River Bent & Denny has started off well.
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Career of Azim might be fun to watch
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This bloke is incredible. He's soaking up everything so far.
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Even if he loses he has put himself on the list of opponents that’ll be flown in for up and coming fighters…granite, as usual it took 5 rounds for the sky commentators to realise he wasn’t a clown
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I'm not so sure that he hasn't done himself out of work. No promising fighter is going to want to look bad against this bloke.
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Maybe! Thought that was a good fight & Eggington did well….
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Mark Chamberlain is looking very promising.
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Jason Cunningham took a step up too far.
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And Joe Joyce managed an unimpressive fourth round stoppage, which is good going.
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5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings
1 Fury 4 Joshua 5 Whyte 7 Joyce 9 Chisora
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5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings
1 Fury 4 Joshua 5 Whyte 7 Joyce 9 Chisora
And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.
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Mark Chamberlain is looking very promising.
Very promising, tough guy against, how he didn’t go down in rd 1 was somerhing
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And Joe Joyce managed an unimpressive fourth round stoppage, which is good going.
Guess he proved a good chin, not sure he’d still be upright if someone like Wilder’s power had open access to him like Hammer did at start
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5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings
1 Fury 4 Joshua 5 Whyte 7 Joyce 9 Chisora
And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.
Chisora at 9 seems very high. Possibly Takam, but has he ever beaten anyone he wasn't expected to?
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5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings
1 Fury 4 Joshua 5 Whyte 7 Joyce 9 Chisora
And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.
Chisora at 9 seems very high. Possibly Takam, but has he ever beaten anyone he wasn't expected to?
Possibly Malik Scott, who was undefeated at the time, but Chisora has had an incredible career. After he won the British title he lost to Fury, his next proper fight was a loss to Robert Helenius for the European title, then he lost to Vitali Klitschko and his reward for losing that was a stadium headliner against David Haye, which he lost. Eleven years and another eight defeats later he's still headlining PPV cards. He's not particularly exciting, he's neither lovable nor a bad guy; he must be the best-marketed British boxer of all time
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5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings
1 Fury 4 Joshua 5 Whyte 7 Joyce 9 Chisora
And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.
Chisora at 9 seems very high. Possibly Takam, but has he ever beaten anyone he wasn't expected to?
Possibly Malik Scott, who was undefeated at the time, but Chisora has had an incredible career. After he won the British title he lost to Fury, his next proper fight was a loss to Robert Helenius for the European title, then he lost to Vitali Klitschko and his reward for losing that was a stadium headliner against David Haye, which he lost. Eleven years and another eight defeats later he's still headlining PPV cards. He's not particularly exciting, he's neither lovable nor a bad guy; he must be the best-marketed British boxer of all time
Absolutely. He makes Joseph Parker look like Rocky Marciano.
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Not a bad first couple of rounds in the Chisora/Pulev fight....
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Decent fight from what I saw.
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Yeah I think the referee deserves credit for not letting them clinch/hold for long periods,breaking them up straight away.
Some dubious scoring again but I was happy to see Chisora finally get a decision go his way.
That said I don't want to see the trilogy!!!
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Will be good to see Sam Noakes & Dennis McCann tonight on the Hamza Sheeraz undercard at the Copper Box.
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There's a nice cruiserweight war breaking out between Chris Billam-Smith and Isaac Chamberlain.
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That was a cracking fight
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It was a bit too one-sided to be a classic, but Billam-Smith stayed the distance well. Harlem Eubank's fight ended in unorthodox fashion and it'll be interesting to see what Josh Kelly can do now.
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Eubank jr vrs Benn planned for October according to bbc.
Going to be a catchweigh bout
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Eubank Benn fight now confirmed 8 Oct 02 Arena. Looks now that Tyson Fury is definitely, maybe, retiring.
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I don't think Fury is very well.
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There should be a rule that once you say you've retired, you're banned for life. Attention seeking twat.
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Eyes down for tonight's entertainment.
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I'm going for AJ ko round 8
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I'm going for AJ ko round 8
I can't see him laying much of a glove on Usyk. Good finish by Callum Smith there.
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Yeah isn't Usyk just too good?
AJ has got to do something big like a knock out
I think Usyk will win though.
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Anyone know where I could watch it please?
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Anyone know where I could watch it please?
Same. Thanks in advance.
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It's getting a bit too easy for Usyk.
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AJ looking handy there
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I've got it 96-94 Usyk.
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I've got it 96-94 Usyk.
I haven't been watching, but following live text and it sounds a much better fight than the first.
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Better from AJ tonight.
But Usyk is a freak. Has the waspish hand speed and movement of a bantomweight.
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Better from AJ tonight.
But Usyk is a freak. Has the waspish hand speed and movement of a bantomweight.
He is a great fighter. I don't think that's the end for AJ, but he'll need a couple of good wins to re-establish himself. Could fight Wilder, maybe?
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I thinj AJ was a bit unlucky there, Usyk landed a lot of punches but nothing particularly hurtful whereas AJ landed a few really good shots that had Usyk hurt. By being mobile Usyk dodged around to get his legs back so AJ couldn't capitalise.
Good fight though.
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Looks like AJ's corner were feeding him some questionable advice between rounds. Telling him he won the first three, for example. Maybe McCracken would've been more perceptive/honest?
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Depends if he's still got the hunger.
It's odd, as one (justified) criticism of AJ in the early years was he faced handpicked plodders.
But if there's one matchup he should have swerved it's this one.
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Better from AJ but split decision? Not for me. Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot. The better fighter won, sadly. Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine.
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Depends if he's still got the hunger.
It's odd, as one (justified) criticism of AJ in the early years was he faced handpicked plodders.
But if there's one matchup he should have swerved it's this one.
Was Usyk mandatory, I can't remember?
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Better from AJ but split decision? Not for me. Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot. The better fighter won, sadly. Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine.
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.
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Better from AJ but split decision? Not for me. Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot. The better fighter won, sadly. Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine.
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.
It was the American.
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Better from AJ but split decision? Not for me. Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot. The better fighter won, sadly. Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine.
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.
It was the American.
In that case, it was the American judge that was watching the wrong fight
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Fuck me, surely someone should have turned off the microphone and told AJ he lost and to shut up. Usyk quite a bit ahead for me.
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What was the post-fight stuff from AJ all about? Only caught bits online but seems a little embarrassing.
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Think he had one cuff on the head too many.
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Better from AJ but split decision? Not for me. Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot. The better fighter won, sadly. Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine.
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.
It was the American.
In that case, it was the American judge that was watching the wrong fight
I assume he was looking for punches that were actually making an impact. Usyk is a fantastic technical fighter but he fought like it was a amateur bout tonight (other than round 10), focusing on landing lots of shots to impress judges rather than to hurt AJ. It was impressive and showed his higher skill level but I can see why a judge might see through it.
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Think he had one cuff on the head too many.
His corner kept telling him he was winning and he knew he'd landed some big shots without really feeling in danger himself (r10 aside). I reckon he genuinely felt he'd done enough to win.
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I think 116-112 in favour of Usyk was about right. Much closer than the 1st fight but Usyk still a level above. Joshua was a bit frustrating at times. Hit some good body shots but didn't follow up enough.
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Found that a bit disrespectful from AJ tbh, it's Usyk's moment, nobody cares about your life story at this moment in time. Especially when you've already flounced off once and chucked the belts on the floor.
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Listened to the fight on the radio and most of the people they spoke to there had Usyk by at least two. Might not be the career-ending loss for Joshua that some had predicted it might be and there probably are still some pretty high-profile fights out there for him, albeit not on the scale he has experienced up until now. Whether he wants to carry on against the likes of Whyte etc. is another thing though.
Can't really see Fury being too interested in fighting Usyk, so might finally go through with his long talked about retirement. Usyk v Wilder might be the next best bet.
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Armani Jeans is 32, Usyk is 35. 36 in a few months.
It's not impossible that AJ could play the waiting game, pace himself and have 2-3 money-spinning fights in the next few years and face an Usyk on the decline around 2024/25.
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Armani Jeans is 32, Usyk is 35. 36 in a few months.
It's not impossible that AJ could play the waiting game, pace himself and have 2-3 money-spinning fights in the next few years and face an Usyk on the decline around 2024/25.
I agree about AJ playing the waiting game, but I think that's it for him vs Usyk. Fury is the next step for Usyk, and either he wins (I cannot see that, personally, I think Fury has the ring IQ to beat him) or he loses and there will be a rematch.
If he wins, he will have unified the Cruiserweight and Heavyweight divisions. Why bother fighting on beyond that? Not only would it be unprecedented, but the only way would be down.
If he loses and there's a rematch, he'd be at least 38-odd before entertaining his next opponent.
Even if AJ makes it back to contention, assuming Fury beats Usyk and becomes undisputed, Usyk would be facing AJ for no belts, so why bother?
I think AJ was so angry tonight because he knew. There'll be no third fight. Even if he rebuilds and unifies the division, he knows he won't get another shot at Usyk. It's not terminal, but it is definitely a permanent stain on his legacy.
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Well AJ should have shown a bit more aggression and anger during the fight not after. He was out boxed again by Usyk who just did enough to convince the judges.
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Better from AJ but split decision? Not for me. Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot. The better fighter won, sadly. Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine.
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.
It was the American.
In that case, it was the American judge that was watching the wrong fight
I assume he was looking for punches that were actually making an impact. Usyk is a fantastic technical fighter but he fought like it was a amateur bout tonight (other than round 10), focusing on landing lots of shots to impress judges rather than to hurt AJ. It was impressive and showed his higher skill level but I can see why a judge might see through it.
Aren’t the judges sat at different places ring side?
In which case the American judge would have had a completely different view of the fight.
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Joshua lost the plot after the fight. Bizarre.
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What was the post-fight stuff from AJ all about? Only caught bits online but seems a little embarrassing.
He's a massive bellend. His stuff on the mic was bad enough when he managed to somehow win a fight, but nobody at all wants to hear from you when you've just lost again. His movement makes Frank Bruno look like Ali.
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Better than listening to Fury try and bloody sing, I can't find the off button fast enough. There does seem to be an in built knob button to our heavyweights. Usyk just seems a bit potty, but he's a hell of a boxer.
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Better than listening to Fury try and bloody sing, I can't find the off button fast enough. There does seem to be an in built knob button to our heavyweights. Usyk just seems a bit potty, but he's a hell of a boxer.
Usyk is a proper eccentric and quite a witty man, I think, and he's been respectful throughout.
AJ made a bit of a tit of himself, but credit to him for coming back, giving Usyk praise and talking about the war in Ukraine. Joshua has quite often been a bit of a PR machine, so I don't mind giving him a bit of leeway for being a twat after what must be a devastating loss.
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Talking about the war in Ukraine?!
"I don't know what's happening there - but it's not nice at the end of the day."
It's a bad thing that's happening there alright.
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To be fair, he held up a Ukraine flag and mentioned it. I'm not claiming he's a professor of international relations but he at least tried - and after a potentially career-ending loss.
I wanted Usyk to win, because I think he's the better boxer, but I reckon AJ was more magnanimous than many losing fighters would've been.
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Each to their own! Chucking the belts on the floor, storming off, then coming back to mutter something about Ukraine that would have embarrassed a 6 year old, then going on a bizarre rant - bloke's an absolute grade A arse in my opinion.
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To be fair, he held up a Ukraine flag and mentioned it. I'm not claiming he's a professor of international relations but he at least tried - and after a potentially career-ending loss.
I wanted Usyk to win, because I think he's the better boxer, but I reckon AJ was more magnanimous than many losing fighters would've been.
Or he could have not grabbed the microphone and refused to give it back?
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I did say he made a tit of himself. But I think he tried to correct that. The history of boxing is littered with fighters acting like complete dickheads. Joshua's was just a heat of the moment tantrum.
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I did say he made a tit of himself. But I think he tried to correct that. The history of boxing is littered with fighters acting like complete dickheads. Joshua's was just a heat of the moment tantrum.
There is, but I can't remember seeing any boxer having a rant like Joshua did.
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I did say he made a tit of himself. But I think he tried to correct that. The history of boxing is littered with fighters acting like complete dickheads. Joshua's was just a heat of the moment tantrum.
There is, but I can't remember seeing any boxer having a rant like Joshua did.
Not after a fight, no. It's usually before.
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Marshall v Shields fight in doubt, presumably someone will make a decision sometime today.
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Has now been postponed.
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Provisionally rescheduled to 15 Oct
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Tyson Fury versus AJ looking like it will go ahead 3rd December.
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Surely that’s going to be a career ending fight for AJ…or could end up being a trilogy of fights between them.
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Fury is now starting to get boring.
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Starting?
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Tyson Fury versus AJ looking like it will go ahead 3rd December.
Should be off again by this time next week then….the only thing more boring than Fury vs AJ posturing is Hearn vs Warren making everything all about them
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At least Fury has got the ability and record to back up what he says. Joshua should be grateful he's been offered such a decent split of the wallet. He's turned into a bit of an embarrassment.
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At least Fury has got the ability and record to back up what he says. Joshua should be grateful he's been offered such a decent split of the wallet. He's turned into a bit of an embarrassment.
Yep three defeats in his last five fights and gets the offer of a huge purse, I expect Tyson to floor AJ.
I would have preferred to see Tyson versus Usyk.
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Me too. That could be an interesting fight. I don't think Usyk could hurt Fury, but he's qo quick and throws so many punches, that if it went to points it'd be interesting.
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Me too. That could be an interesting fight. I don't think Usyk could hurt Fury, but he's qo quick and throws so many punches, that if it went to points it'd be interesting.
Yes the boxing styles are similar but with Tyson being much bigger I think he would soak up any punches from Usyk without getting hurt before over powering him.
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I'd imagine Fury will, eventually, fight both of them, having retired another eleven or twelve times in the meantime.
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I'd imagine Fury will, eventually, fight both of them, having retired another eleven or twelve times in the meantime.
Yeah, heard an interview with him the other day where he said that Usyk has already stated he will not be fighting again in 2022.
Works perfectly for Fury I suppose. Joshua in Cardiff in December and then a big early summer fight against Usyk in 2023. He wins those two and then he could walk away knowing that he has achieved everything he possibly could.
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Me too. That could be an interesting fight. I don't think Usyk could hurt Fury, but he's qo quick and throws so many punches, that if it went to points it'd be interesting.
Yes the boxing styles are similar but with Tyson being much bigger I think he would soak up any punches from Usyk without getting hurt before over powering him.
Think Fury has more boxing nous than Joshua and would have the ring craft to make his size advantage over Uysk really count.
AJ didn't have that lengthy amateur career and I think that lack of experience has shown at times during his pro career.
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I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
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I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
That one went under the radar a bit, I had no idea. He fought some very good opponents: Bugner, Holmes, Norton, Ali, Lyle.
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I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
That one went under the radar a bit, I had no idea. He fought some very good opponents: Bugner, Holmes, Norton, Ali, Lyle.
I hadn't heard that he has passed, 69 knockouts with 23 of them in the first round.
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Steve Bunce wrote a great piece about him and his generation of heavyweights in last week's Boxing News. Sharing your peak years with Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes is the definition of unlucky.
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Steve Bunce wrote a great piece about him and his generation of heavyweights in last week's Boxing News. Sharing your peak years with Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes is the definition of unlucky.
True so, bit like being a middleweight in the early-mid '80s.
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Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.
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Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.
Because people will pay to watch it. Heavyweights bring out the casual fan.
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Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.
Because people will pay to watch it. Heavyweights bring out the casual fan.
Yeah Dave but there will still be many, who want to watch it, but due to the present cost of living crisis, will be unable to do so, as it's a luxury, they cannot afford, that's why it's wrong.
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I agree it's wrong but that's the free market and in particular, the modern obsession with sport on TV.
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Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.
Because people will pay to watch it. Heavyweights bring out the casual fan.
Yeah Dave but there will still be many, who want to watch it, but due to the present cost of living crisis, will be unable to do so, as it's a luxury, they cannot afford, that's why it's wrong.
Personally I just don’t watch them, much like
Villa away games I just can’t be arsed trying to find streams. If it’s a decent fight it will be on the main channel to watch by midweek
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Boxing does itself no favours at times. You have weekends when there's nothing on TV then some nights there's three bills being shown. Then you have a situation like tonight, with two fringe world class fighters are on PPV while the other card has the top of the bill fight pulled and the chief support now headlining.
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Now, that was worth it.
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That was a cracking contest. Two very good fighters.
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I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
Did not no this I remember when I first moved up north & used to start our night out in Yates wine bar in queens square always to be greeted by a huge American bouncer always friendly to be told a few weeks later he was a famous American boxer Earnie Shavers.RIP. Great performance by Joyce tonight he’s going to be a hard nights work for the top end of the heavyweight division.
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Very impressive from Joyce, first man to stop Parker, if the Fury Joshua fight doesn't go ahead, would love to see him fight AJ.
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Eubank v Benn off because of a positive drugs test by Conor Benn. Fertility drug or something which could increase Testosterone.
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Very disappointing. I was really looking forward to the fight as well.
And what’s ridiculous thing to take. I wonder how he will try and riddle out of that, as athletes invariably do. You can hardly claim “ contaminated meat” or “ flu cure “ for that drug !
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Suddenly you start to see how Benn became the most improved fighter in the country.
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Papers are saying Benn is facing a 4 year ban.
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Sam Eggington got beat yesterday. He should be thinking about retiring while he can still write his name.
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Papers are saying Benn is facing a 4 year ban.
Bunce was pretty damning on the BBC podcast. Once Bunce turns, you know things are bad.
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Sam Eggington got beat yesterday. He should be thinking about retiring while he can still write his name.
Absolutely, made the most of his talent & been toe to toe enough
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Cards on the table time and aware that some may frown on this opinion, but I just find women's fighting sports tough to watch at times, as although I admire the bravery and skill on show, I'm still not overly comfortable watching women being hit in the face and hurt.
With that said, I am really intrigued by the fight tonight. Shields is the brash kind of American sportsperson who you just want to see beaten and I hope Savannah Marshall can do that. I haven't seen enough of either fighter to know the form and if that is a likely prospect, but again don't know how comfortable I feel with wanting to see a female get a hiding and potentially knocked out for my entertainment.
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I used feel the same, then I thought that boxing can never be morally justified in any circumstance. Paying to watch men hurt each other is highly questionable and my only defence is that they choose to do it. That being the case, women should have the same opportunity.
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I used feel the same, then I thought that boxing can never be morally justified in any circumstance. Paying to watch men hurt each other is highly questionable and my only defence is that they choose to do it. That being the case, women should have the same opportunity.
Agree with that Dave. Have absolutely no qualms about women having the opportunity to be involved in combat sports, I guess it's more an internal wrestle of whether I can enjoy it.
I've always felt empathy for any boxer who loses a fight really, as not only have they got to deal with the anguish of defeat, but also the physical damage that has been inflicted on them.
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Yeah I used to be the same, but the standard of women's boxing has greatly improved over the years, also I've noticed generally, if one of the women is taking a beating, the ref will stop a fight much earlier than they would for a man's fight.
Really looking forward to the Marshall fight, reckon she is a credit to the sport, really hoping she beats Shields.
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Women's boxing has vastly improved. Some of the early bouts were embarrassing; fighters had no idea of how to box and sometimes looked close to tears. As with football, the more women involved, the better it has become.
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Disagree with the decision, thought Mayer won it.
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Thing I’ve noticed when watching some of the highlights of Savannah Marshall is that she is quite a bit taller than her opponents and seems to use that advantage well. Hopefully will be the case tonight.
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Disagree with the decision, thought Mayer won it.
I was watching the results, got as far as 96-94 to... THEN IT SWITCHED TO WOMEN'S FUCKING GOLF!!!
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Explosive start. Think it could be argued it’s 2-1 Shields after 3, but could easily be 3-0 as well.
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Shields seems to be different class. This surely won't last the distance.
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Right decision, but what a fight, superb stuff, credit to both women.
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i had it 97-93, and one of those was probably a sympathy round. It was too one-sided to be a classic but it's shown how good womens boxing has become.
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i had it 97-93, and one of those was probably a sympathy round. It was too one-sided to be a classic but it's shown how good womens boxing has become.
Yeah, think four rounds was about right Dave. Savannah Marshall was brave, game and gave it a right go, but Shields just looked the more accomplished boxer and it told on the night.
Credit to both though.
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Deontay Wilder's back.
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Deontay Wilder's back.
And meanwhile, in a fight that the whole world wasn't begging to see, Fury is going to fight Chisora. Again.
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Deontay Wilder's back.
And meanwhile, in a fight that the whole world wasn't begging to see, Fury is going to fight Chisora. Again.
Believe that one when you see it.
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Taylor and Catterall have agreed a rematch, fight expected to take place in Glasgow on 4 February, hopefully they won't be using the same judges.
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Deontay Wilder's back.
And meanwhile, in a fight that the whole world wasn't begging to see, Fury is going to fight Chisora. Again.
Makes sense for Fury I suppose. What should be a rotine warm up fight before a fight with Usyk next spring. Not sure about a UK open air stadium fight in December though?
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Tonight's going much as expected.
Correction: Kiko Martinez just keeps going on
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Gal & Kal both win on points, Kal looking well off.
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Very impressive from Natasha Jonas
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Good win for Anthiny Yarde and a stiff test upcoming for Liam Davies.
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Four TV shows in three days starts now.
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Anyone watching tonight's bills?
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That was a straightforward win for Dubois.
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Fury and Chisora have a lot of respect for each other. Chisora is however taking too much punishment
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The right decision to stop it even if it’s Two or three rounds too late.
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Chisora's corner should be banned for that.
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No contest, as expected, Chisora is nearly 39 now has 13 losses, time to hang the gloves up Derek.
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Joke of a fight, Fury could've finished that whenever he felt like it. A waste of everyone's time.
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Yep, Fury giving his mate one last payday. I would call it a glorified sparring session, but I suspect Fury spars with better than Chisora.
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Joke of a fight, Fury could've finished that whenever he felt like it. A waste of everyone's time.
Except for the fighters I suppose. Fury got a pay day and tune up before fighting Usyk next year and Chisora got his last big pay day and an outside shot at a world title.
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Felix Cash starts tonight's proceedings.