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Title: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 02, 2022, 12:19:32 AM
Evetything in the UK postponed until the end of the month. Happy New Year.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on January 08, 2022, 11:17:04 AM
My hopes for 2022, Conor Benn fights for a world title, Daniel Dubois proves once again he is possibly a future heavyweight champion and we finally get to see Fury and Joshua in the ring. Not holding my breath on the last one.


Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 05, 2022, 11:06:18 AM
Good day if you're a sports fan, 12.30 Harriers v West Ham, 4.45 Scotland v England and tonight boxing in the UK returns from Cardiff with Eubank v Williams topping the bill, on the undercard Caroline Dubois, Daniel's sister, makes her professional debut, starts 7.30 on Sky.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 05, 2022, 10:24:03 PM
That bit of play-acting was as cringeworthy as anything WWF could throw up.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on February 05, 2022, 10:28:29 PM
Williams v Eubank Jnr.....should be a good 'un!

What do we think?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 05, 2022, 10:34:44 PM
This is fucking embarrassing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on February 05, 2022, 10:43:25 PM
This is fucking embarrassing.

Strange build up.....come on the taffy!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 05, 2022, 11:43:09 PM
That was one of the strangest fights I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on February 06, 2022, 12:05:15 AM
That last round, hilarious. When Jnr was dancing around the ring, no point standing there watching with your hands on your hips when you’re losing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2022, 09:19:04 PM
Who's watching tonight, then?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 12, 2022, 08:26:27 PM
Danny Dignum looked good last night; it'll be interesting to compare Felix Cash against a similar opponent tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on February 16, 2022, 09:08:09 AM
Khan v Brook on Saturday. This fight has came about years too late but will still be worth watching. Sky Box Office is a bit of a piss take though. Especially as the undercard is somewhat underwhelming.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on February 16, 2022, 06:13:04 PM
Khan v Brook on Saturday. This fight has came about years too late but will still be worth watching. Sky Box Office is a bit of a piss take though. Especially as the undercard is somewhat underwhelming.

Yep years way too late, would have loved to see them in their prime and won't be paying 25 notes to Sky. I'm sure to find a little river to watch though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 17, 2022, 08:46:26 PM
loser should be forced to retire
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 17, 2022, 09:01:45 PM
loser should be forced to retire

I thought they both had.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 18, 2022, 08:59:11 AM
The press conference yesterday was shocking. I wasn’t exactly expecting intelligent discourse but this was unfunny shit. If a footballer, or any other sports person had spouted this kind of homophobic shite before a game, there would be uproar. Fuck the pair of them
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 18, 2022, 06:54:08 PM
loser should be forced to retire

I thought they both had.
I think they did.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 18, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
Khan v Brook is everything that is wrong about boxing for me, 100% is 7/8/9 years late but the likes of Hearn manipulate the scenario for their personal gains & tolerate/encourage this ridiculous fake trash talking for PPV sales.  There’s no way this hatred is not manufactured, if they really felt that way the fight would have happened when they were champion standard not when they are in retirement fund mode.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 19, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
BBC boxing pundit Steve Bunce is predicted a great fight, sadly I don't think that will be the case, but having said that I'm still forking out £20 to watch it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 19, 2022, 08:01:29 PM
What a performance from Brad Rea ko in less than 2 mins of the 1st round.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2022, 09:28:34 PM
Are you paying Sky for this?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2022, 09:33:10 PM
Are you paying Sky for this?

No and I want my money back so far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 19, 2022, 09:51:46 PM
Mr Grealish is there
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 19, 2022, 10:10:48 PM
What a performance from Natasha Jonas
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2022, 11:07:12 PM
The phrase 'shot to bits' seems to apply here.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 19, 2022, 11:16:42 PM
Yes Khan was gone a long time ago.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2022, 11:16:59 PM
That was sad to see.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on February 19, 2022, 11:20:55 PM
Khan has always had a dodgy chin but that was quite sad tonight, Brook was very good and knew exactly how to win that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on February 19, 2022, 11:33:33 PM
Total domination from Kell, glad the ref stepped in before Khan was severely hurt.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on February 19, 2022, 11:35:03 PM
No need for a rematch either, can't see any other outcome.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 19, 2022, 11:35:30 PM
It’s sad with Khan - an incredibly skilful fighter and formerly world class. But I feel he never reached his potential.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2022, 11:42:15 PM
I enjoyed that. Not been a Khan fan, feel like he's been hyped beyond his ability. Brook has been a better fighter for me.

Khan has to be done now. Surely. As for Brook, he should quit too. He doesn't need to do it any more.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 19, 2022, 11:59:17 PM
First round was one of the most explosive starts I've seen for a big fight, but from round 2 onwards there was only gonna be one winner, fair play to Khan he took some punishment but going to the end, but it must be retirement now for him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 20, 2022, 12:19:21 AM
I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 20, 2022, 12:33:02 AM
Total domination from Kell, glad the ref stepped in before Khan was severely hurt.

Yeah, it was a good stoppage.  One fight too far for Khan against an opponent who seemingly still had something left in the tank.

Should be Brook's last fight as well as fighting some of the names being mentioned post fight would be a completely different proposition, but I guess the lure of one more big payday is tough to turn down.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: aldridgeboy on February 20, 2022, 03:05:01 AM
Enjoyed the fight. Glad Brook won, I’ve never been a Kahn fan really. But fair play he went out on his shield , took some great shots and a honest and respectful interview afterwards. Refreshing to see a loving fighter say they’d had a great camp. Usually there’s excuses.

Khan has to retire , Brook should. Eubank is too big for him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 20, 2022, 10:03:44 AM
I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.
Now that's a fight I would like to see.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on February 20, 2022, 11:48:25 AM
I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.

He’s said he “Doesn’t like Eubank” now, so might go looking for that.
I don’t really follow boxing, but from what little I’ve read Eubank jr would be too good
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on February 22, 2022, 02:53:21 PM
Brook was better than I expected & Khan was worse than I expected. As previously mentioned the fight should've happened years ago. They've both made a lot of money & both are healthy so time to walk away with their heads held high.

Sadly I can see Brook being tempted with another lucrative payday! Hope I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 25, 2022, 01:13:56 AM
I can see Brook cashing out in a fight with Conor Benn.

He’s said he “Doesn’t like Eubank” now, so might go looking for that.
I don’t really follow boxing, but from what little I’ve read Eubank jr would be too good

And way too big.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 26, 2022, 09:05:04 PM
Blimey that was like 2 blokes fighting outside the pub after both having 10 pints of strong ale.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 10:02:30 PM
Blimey that was like 2 blokes fighting outside the pub after both having 10 pints of strong ale.

Yep, bizarre stuff.  That Puerto Rican kid looked good though and the Taylor fight should be good.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 10:03:25 PM
Time for Josh Taylor - surely Britain’s best boxer at the moment? Hope I haven’t jinxed him now :-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2022, 10:03:49 PM
I think it'll be too one-sided to be good, but Taylor will be worth watching.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 10:15:34 PM
Macklin is desperate for Caterall to win…,must have a few quid on him
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 10:24:12 PM
Could be an upset on the cards here.  Some might not have given Taylor a round yet.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 10:29:36 PM
 ;Unless Catterall blows up here, can't see Taylor turning it round.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2022, 10:37:10 PM
I think it'll be too one-sided to be good, but Taylor will be worth watching.

Every bloody time.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 10:40:00 PM
I think it'll be too one-sided to be good, but Taylor will be worth watching.

Every bloody time.

Me too Dave :-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 10:40:11 PM
Taylor surely needs a stoppage.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 10:44:09 PM
Don’t think the ref would take much encouragement to stop him if Taylor does tag him in next couple of rounds
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 10:58:32 PM
Oh that is an absolute fucking disgrace.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 26, 2022, 10:59:25 PM
That's a joke of a decision
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on February 26, 2022, 10:59:48 PM
What a disgrace that was. Fuck me.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 11:00:54 PM
Thought commentators were going OTT on Catterall being miles ahead as 5/6/7 rounds were flip of coin decisions but over 12 rounds he was surely 2/3 clear
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Lsvilla on February 26, 2022, 11:01:12 PM
No. Surely not. Amazing. Corrupt. Insane.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on February 26, 2022, 11:01:19 PM
What a decision!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 26, 2022, 11:01:21 PM
That’s a shocker.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 26, 2022, 11:02:57 PM
These sort of decisions are what kill boxing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 11:04:52 PM
Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on February 26, 2022, 11:07:39 PM
Boxing is corrupt no doubt, I couldn't believe it when one judge gave the fight to Taylor but two? No fucking way.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 11:11:07 PM
Even the one who gave it Caterall would have given it as a draw if the ref hadn’t took that late point off Taylor….embarrassing
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2022, 11:14:22 PM
Robbery. Absolute bloody downright robbery. Time and again and again this is happening.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 11:14:39 PM
Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards

Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 11:16:46 PM
They were three of our best and experienced refs as well.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on February 26, 2022, 11:18:29 PM
Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards

Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?

Or a fight in Las Vegas involving a Mexican.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on February 26, 2022, 11:19:33 PM
Boxing is corrupt no doubt, I couldn't believe it when one judge gave the fight to Taylor but two? No fucking way.

And one by three rounds!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2022, 11:19:52 PM
Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards

Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
Absolutely German / Italian where we always took morale high ground that is was ‘homers’ or promoters decisions but these mob are as bad
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on February 26, 2022, 11:20:40 PM
Taylor landed 85 punches Catterall 166
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on February 26, 2022, 11:33:31 PM
Always seems to be the British refs / judges that are iffy when it comes to scorecards

Have you ever seen a fight in Germany Gareth?
Absolutely German / Italian where we always took morale high ground that is was ‘homers’ or promoters decisions but these mob are as bad

I agree, that was totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on February 27, 2022, 09:00:16 AM
Taylor is the undisputed light-welterweight world champion, I would dispute that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on February 27, 2022, 01:58:09 PM
Sad thing is last night's farce would have turned a lot of people off boxing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on February 27, 2022, 04:50:31 PM
Sad thing is last night's farce would have turned a lot of people off boxing.

Thins like last night and the F1 debacle really, really, really piss me off more than they probably should.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on February 27, 2022, 08:39:54 PM
Robert McCracken's instructions just needs a Yamaha keyboard beat behind them and they could be a Sleaford Mods track :-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on February 28, 2022, 02:42:24 AM
Sad thing is last night's farce would have turned a lot of people off boxing.

Thins like last night and the F1 debacle really, really, really piss me off more than they probably should.

To be fair mate, I think the paying public being taken for fools is enough to make you pissed off.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 04, 2022, 07:25:08 PM
If anyone's interested there's a free stream of a Fightzone bill tonight here. https://www.fightzone.uk/play/7758c358-2293-45ce-a363-1eaebfa7f16b_5D3C77b
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 11, 2022, 09:35:18 PM
Following on from above, you can sign up for Fightzone free until the end of April; they have some good small hall bills most weeks. https://www.fightzone.uk/

Boxing News is also available at an introductory £13 for thirteen issues. https://subscription.kelsey.co.uk/boxing-news-try-something-new-in-2022/?source=tsn22bxnppc&utm_source=brand&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=boxing-news&utm_term=tsn22bxnppc&gclid=CjwKCAiAg6yRBhBNEiwAeVyL0DEn09CWbMtqThjN8kTD76KDh8K5KmeUm2A0PJAzcWY9t1PREdEdmBoC4R4QAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 12, 2022, 11:51:14 PM
What a fight, and what a finish.   
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on March 12, 2022, 11:57:36 PM
Just listened to it, sounded a brutal fight with a finish to back it up
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 12, 2022, 11:57:44 PM
What a fight, and what a finish.   

The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 12, 2022, 11:59:38 PM
What a fight, and what a finish.   

The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.

If you look at it again Conlan was collapsing before the final punches. He was absolutely spent and I hope he's alright. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 13, 2022, 12:06:01 AM
What a fight, and what a finish.   

The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.

If you look at it again Conlan was collapsing before the final punches. He was absolutely spent and I hope he's alright. 

That's what I mean, it looked like he literally couldn't stand up any more before the punches rather than being knocked out. As long as he didn't fall awkwardly out of the ring you would assume he'd be okay, it's not like he was taking a beating that should have been stopped earlier.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 13, 2022, 12:22:52 AM
It's reckoned that he hit his head on a seat, but reports also say he's conscious and stable in hospital.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on March 13, 2022, 12:31:56 AM
What a fight, and what a finish.   

The ending was weird. Didn't look like he was knocked out with the punch as such, more that he collapsed and simply fell backwards out of the ring. Maybe he was totally out of gas and the right from Wood was enough. Hope he's okay and well done to both for a great fight.

If you look at it again Conlan was collapsing before the final punches. He was absolutely spent and I hope he's alright.

Yeah, I still remember Benn-McLellan vividly and all these occasions where the fighters go down in weird ways is always worrying. Hope he's OK. You do feel he had that fight won and needlessly got into a war in the last couple of rounds, but obviously thought he had it in him to trade.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 13, 2022, 10:05:40 AM
I've just seen a reverse angle and Conlan was hit by an almighty right hand before the final two punches that had him out of the ring.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2022, 08:05:46 PM
I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on March 26, 2022, 08:09:20 PM
Not sure if I'll be watching any boxing tonight, watching England beat Switzerland is probably enough excitement for one night!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on March 26, 2022, 10:33:51 PM
I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Not keen Dave?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on March 26, 2022, 10:51:17 PM
Good shot from Riakpohe to get that fight done
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: sid1964 on March 28, 2022, 08:26:11 AM
What a performance from Josh Warrington - absolutely brilliant - well done in regaining his world title
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 28, 2022, 09:21:05 AM
I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Not keen Dave?

Horrible, dirty fighter with horrible, dirty supporters.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on March 29, 2022, 07:52:30 PM
I do hope Josh Warrington loses tonight.
Not keen Dave?

Horrible, dirty fighter with horrible, dirty supporters.

I assume you're referring to Luke Ayling there, who cemented his reputation as being a bit of a tit. The whole Leeds United thing with Warrington is very cringeworthy, and I see your point about dirty because the first headbutt definitely helped him on his way. It didn't look deliberate to me though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 02, 2022, 10:39:41 PM
Very impressive from Savannah Marshall, Claressa Shields next.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 02, 2022, 11:19:23 PM
Sky Sports are showing Hearns v Hagler now.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 03, 2022, 10:03:12 AM
Tonight BBC are showing a documentary by US film maker Ken Burns on Muhammad Ali, as there have probably been more programmes on Ali than anybody else, not sure how much it is gonna tell us that we don't already know. It has however had very good reviews, it starts from his childhood 8 programmes in all BBC2 10.20pm.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 03, 2022, 03:18:01 PM
Fightzone are showing a bill this afternoon headed by a British flyweight title fight and it's free for three months. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on April 09, 2022, 02:07:48 PM
Did anyone watch Triple G just now? Murata hit him with a liver shot in the second and he just withered, and I thought this was going to be when he really got old. But GGG does what GGG does and domanted after the 4th. I would still steer clear of Canelo if I were him though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Ger Regan on April 12, 2022, 10:12:47 PM
Daniel Kinehan has been hit with sanctions by the US government. I'd say there's a few boxing people getting twitchy.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on April 12, 2022, 11:55:24 PM
Did anyone watch Triple G just now? Murata hit him with a liver shot in the second and he just withered, and I thought this was going to be when he really got old. But GGG does what GGG does and domanted after the 4th. I would still steer clear of Canelo if I were him though.

Anywhere but Vegas, LA or Mexico, and he won that first fight between them, for me. In a rather sad move, I even scored it, and had GGG the winner by four rounds. I also scored the second and made it a draw, but by the time the cards were announced, I'd given up on a fair judges' decision in a Canelo fight.

Canelo is a great fighter, but he's also dodgy as fuck, imo. No chance Golovkin beats him without a stoppage, and, credit to Canelo's chin, that would've happened by now in one of the first two.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 16, 2022, 08:39:55 PM
Three cards on TV tonight which is daft given how many weekends we go without. Connor Benn should win easily. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 17, 2022, 10:12:43 AM
Conor Benn fighting last night and it wasn't on Sky or BT pathetic.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on April 17, 2022, 01:08:00 PM
Watched Nathan Heaney….like when you used to watch Paul Warhurst play up front for Wednesday and think ‘how does that work’ he’s game but will surely get found out at some point against a proper fighter
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 17, 2022, 01:08:47 PM
Conor Benn fighting last night and it wasn't on Sky or BT pathetic.

Just as well. DAZN are welcome to it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on April 17, 2022, 02:24:54 PM
Is Benn jnr the same weight classification as Eubank jnr?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 17, 2022, 02:31:09 PM
Is Benn jnr the same weight classification as Eubank jnr?

He's welter, Eubank is middle.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on April 18, 2022, 08:37:08 AM
Is Benn jnr the same weight classification as Eubank jnr?

He's welter, Eubank is middle.

Thanks, Dave.
Not really up on boxing, makes sense as to why a Eubank jnr vrs Benn jnr hasn’t really been hyped up
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 19, 2022, 12:53:07 PM
Adam Smith on Sky trying to make a case for Dillian Whyte winning on Saturday, hasn't convinced me.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2022, 09:02:13 PM
Sam Maxwell just lost an absolute war to Alejandro Meneses.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2022, 11:11:09 PM
And a very impressive win for Paul Butler in a nice warm-up for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 22, 2022, 11:51:38 PM
Anybody going for Whyte, some bookies are offering 4/1 for a surprise.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 23, 2022, 01:35:22 AM
I'd love it, but it won't happen.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 23, 2022, 08:22:53 PM
Hard not to like Tyson Fury, tickling your opponent at the weigh in has to be a first.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Nev on April 23, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 23, 2022, 08:56:56 PM
The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's

I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on April 23, 2022, 09:08:23 PM
The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's

Well Warren likes to save a penny or two, perhaps he got the cds from the charity shop
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 23, 2022, 09:18:13 PM
The trouble with a fight like this is that all the casuals want to watch, and overload the streams for us hardcore freeloaders. Where are you lot for a WBO European title bill on DAZN?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Nev on April 23, 2022, 09:56:21 PM
The trouble with a fight like this is that all the casuals want to watch, and overload the streams for us hardcore freeloaders. Where are you lot for a WBO European title bill on DAZN?

Nowhere to be seen of course, although my stream keeps stopping so I'm somewhat hoisted by my own petard.
After his jingoistic nonsense in the CL, Darren Fletcher did well to try and make an average fight interesting just now. My eyes kept wandering to the ringside where other than Warren I saw Alan Davies, two blokes who never stopped rabbiting, what looked like the Ann Darwin, the canoe blokes wife and also what looked like Adele in a bridal head dress.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Proposition Joe on April 23, 2022, 10:04:33 PM
The trouble with a fight like this is that all the casuals want to watch, and overload the streams for us hardcore freeloaders. Where are you lot for a WBO European title bill on DAZN?

Being Germany based, I only watch the DAZN ones! I'm missing out on tonight's one, but it should be Fury's if he's still up for it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on April 23, 2022, 10:06:19 PM
Never bother with PPV or searching for streams - if it’s any good will watch later in week when it’s on the channel I already pay for.  Is the undercard as average as expected?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on April 23, 2022, 10:16:09 PM
Listening to the fight on Talksport as my stream has stopped.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on April 23, 2022, 10:38:43 PM
Big uppercut from Tyson.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on April 23, 2022, 10:44:25 PM
https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153

The final punch
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on April 23, 2022, 10:45:19 PM
What a punch. Lights out.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 23, 2022, 10:52:01 PM
Sadly as I thought would happen, Whyte was totally outclassed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 23, 2022, 10:52:04 PM
Never bother with PPV or searching for streams - if it’s any good will watch later in week when it’s on the channel I already pay for.  Is the undercard as average as expected?

At best it was average.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 23, 2022, 11:10:39 PM
BT pundits are saying the golf he's been playing, may have helped Fury produce that uppercut, well that's a new one on me.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2022, 11:17:56 PM
BT pundits are saying the golf he's been playing, may have helped Fury produce that uppercut, well that's a new one on me.

I think the fact that Whyte seemed scared to attack him had more to do with it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on April 23, 2022, 11:22:42 PM
https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153

The final punch

Lots of people commenting who've clearly never taken a punch to the jaw that rattles the brain stem. A flyweight landing that would probably have dropped Whyte, let alone a 6ft9, 18 stone man.

As Dave said, big fights draw out the casuals who think Rocky is an accurate depiction of boxing. (Not aimed at anyone here, of course.)
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2022, 11:37:17 PM
https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153

The final punch

Lots of people commenting who've clearly never taken a punch to the jaw that rattles the brain stem. A flyweight landing that would probably have dropped Whyte, let alone a 6ft9, 18 stone man.

As Dave said, big fights draw out the casuals who think Rocky is an accurate depiction of boxing. (Not aimed at anyone here, of course.)

On here? I don't think anyone has downplayed how good a punch it was, personally I was impressed that Whyte got back up but he was clearly not all there. All my point was trying to say is that after 5 years waiting and all the noise he's made Whyte never, in my opinion, really tried to land anything, that's a credit to Fury who makes himself really difficult to fight but also shows Whyte up for what he really is, that's he been the mandatory challenger for so long shows how weak the division is.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on April 23, 2022, 11:40:38 PM
https://twitter.com/TheArtOfWar6/status/1517981324786737153

The final punch

Lots of people commenting who've clearly never taken a punch to the jaw that rattles the brain stem. A flyweight landing that would probably have dropped Whyte, let alone a 6ft9, 18 stone man.

As Dave said, big fights draw out the casuals who think Rocky is an accurate depiction of boxing. (Not aimed at anyone here, of course.)

On here? I don't think anyone has downplayed how good a punch it was, personally I was impressed that Whyte got back up but he was clearly not all there. All my point was trying to say is that after 5 years waiting and all the noise he's made Whyte never, in my opinion, really tried to land anything, that's a credit to Fury who makes himself really difficult to fight but also shows Whyte up for what he really is, that's he been the mandatory challenger for so long shows how weak the division is.

No, sorry Paul, I meant comments on Twitter.

I think Whyte's a good, strong fighter, but I agree, I never saw him as a threat to Fury, which is why I didn't pay for the fight.

Wouldn't mind seeing Whyte against Wilder.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on April 24, 2022, 02:37:41 PM
The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's

I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.

I actually had the first ‘Now that’s what I call music’ LP.
Long gone now though, probably worth a fortune
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on April 24, 2022, 02:39:48 PM
The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's

I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.

I actually had the first ‘Now that’s what I call music’ LP.
Long gone now though, probably worth a fortune

About a tenner to be honest.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on April 24, 2022, 04:29:31 PM
Pretty routine win for Fury last night.  All his talk about retirement frustrates me, especially when it isn’t really genuine. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on April 24, 2022, 06:35:06 PM
I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on April 24, 2022, 08:17:56 PM
The DJ at Wembley sounds like he's playing everything from Now That's What I Call Music CD's

I heard an ad during the week for Now 111 so they're still going strong.

I actually had the first ‘Now that’s what I call music’ LP.
Long gone now though, probably worth a fortune

About a tenner to be honest.

You’re probably right 😂
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 24, 2022, 09:30:09 PM
I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.

That's my hope too.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on April 24, 2022, 11:57:47 PM
I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.

That's my hope too.

Would prefer it if Joshua convincingly beats Usyk in their rematch then Fury fights Joshua.  Would actually then make sense for Fury to retire, as there would be nothing left for him to tick off really. 

Despite Joshua's recent struggles, it would still be an absolutely huge fight, with all the heavyweight belts on the line if Joshua were to beat Usyk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on April 25, 2022, 01:08:42 AM
I hope he gets to fight Usyk for a unification belt. And then maybe Joshua just to shut the latter up for good.

That's my hope too.

Would prefer it if Joshua convincingly beats Usyk in their rematch then Fury fights Joshua.  Would actually then make sense for Fury to retire, as there would be nothing left for him to tick off really. 

Despite Joshua's recent struggles, it would still be an absolutely huge fight, with all the heavyweight belts on the line if Joshua were to beat Usyk.

Agreed, I can't see either of them challenging Fury, but think AJ stands a better chance.

Having said that, I think Usyk has AJ on toast. That fight wasn't a Ruiz-style fluke, it was a schooling. I can't see it, but I hope AJ regains his belts.

Then Fury vs AJ. For all the belts. At Villa Park 😁
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on April 25, 2022, 07:53:12 AM
I think Fury would only want a unification fight vrs Joshua as his next, and final, fight.
He certainly won’t want any mandatory challengers.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on April 25, 2022, 08:56:25 AM
Yep no way on earth is Joshua winning the rematch. He's just not a good enough boxer.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 25, 2022, 12:13:42 PM
If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 25, 2022, 12:24:26 PM
If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(

Killing you softly with his song...
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 26, 2022, 12:11:41 AM
If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(

Killing you softly with his song...

There's nothing soft about Fury's singing!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on April 26, 2022, 09:09:46 AM
So, Dillian Whyte is saying he only lost because Fury pushed him after the knockout punch?
He was ok with giving Fury the elbows and head buts, though!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 30, 2022, 10:19:06 PM
There's a decent bill on Fightzone tonight, and it's free.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on April 30, 2022, 10:48:05 PM
Tonight Katie Taylor v Amanda Serrano is been called 'The biggest fight in the history of women's boxing' taking place at Madison Square Garden. The bad news is on DAZN, so you have to pay for it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on May 07, 2022, 01:58:12 PM
Kell Brook announces his retirement, I think he really means it, unlike a certain heavyweight, who I am pretty certain, we will see again back in the boxing ring.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 07, 2022, 02:30:43 PM
If Fury has now finally retired, the good news for all of us, is we won't be hearing him sing 'American Pie', it was one of my favourite songs, now I hate it >:(

Killing you softly with his song...

There's nothing soft about Fury's singing!

It was a Don McLean reference as much as a Fury one. :)
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Footy-Vill on May 07, 2022, 10:07:57 PM
Bivol is going to give Canello a heck of a fight 🥊 I imagine they won't let the Russian win if it goes the distance .
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Footy-Vill on May 08, 2022, 08:25:19 AM
I'm glad they scored fair and how underestimated Bivol is now boxing world sees he's great
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: LeeB on May 08, 2022, 09:58:08 AM
Great that the drug cheating bastard lost.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 08, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
Great that the drug cheating bastard lost.

But Bivol's RUSSIAN!!! >:(
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on May 13, 2022, 01:58:46 PM
As expected Amir Khan has now confirmed he is retiring, a very talented boxer, unfortunately a glass chin stopped him from becoming a great one.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 13, 2022, 02:03:52 PM
As expected Amir Khan has now confirmed he is retiring, a very talented boxer, unfortunately a glass chin stopped him from becoming a great one.

That's good. He was only going one way and should have retired years ago. His legacy is the amount of young Asian boxers we now have.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 14, 2022, 10:38:36 PM
Martin Bakole on the verge of an upset against Tony Yoka.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 19, 2022, 11:30:24 PM
Local girl Lisa O'Rourke, 20 wins gold at the Women's World Boxing Championships along with compatriot Amy Broadhurst.
Lisa follows in the footsteps of her sister Aoife who was a European champion at middleweight and it's not often Roscommon gets mentioned on BBC Sport. :)  https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/61515465
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 21, 2022, 10:48:10 PM
Anyone watching Buatsi v Richards?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on June 05, 2022, 02:00:30 PM
David Haye has appeared in court charged with assault, a trial date has been set for September.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 06, 2022, 08:18:26 PM
I'd missed out on this one but it looks good news. https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12620205/mexican-boxer-alejandra-ayala-wakes-from-induced-coma-following-hannah-rankin-fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KNVillan on June 09, 2022, 08:18:06 AM
This one is bad news

Simiso Buthelezi has passed away after becoming disoriented during a bout


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/300609168/south-african-boxer-who-became-disoriented-in-fight-dies
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: JD on June 09, 2022, 08:44:37 AM
This one is bad news

Simiso Buthelezi has passed away after becoming disoriented during a bout


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/300609168/south-african-boxer-who-became-disoriented-in-fight-dies

That's awful. Poor guy.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on June 11, 2022, 03:29:14 PM
After 10 months without a fight, Daniel Dubois is at last getting back in the ring. He fights Trevor Bryan, who has won all his 22 fights, tonight in Miami for the WBA (Regular) Heavyweight title. Unusually fight is due to start around tea-time in Florida and sometime after 11pm our time and is on BT Sport starting at 7pm. Talk is if Dubois wins, he might get the chance to fight the winner of AJ v Usyk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2022, 08:59:36 PM
Three bills on TV tonight, including Ijaz Ahmed from Bordesley Green fighting for the British flyweight title.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on June 11, 2022, 10:01:03 PM
Lauren Price very impressive on her debut.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2022, 10:04:05 PM
Lauren Price very impressive on her debut.

You should have watched the other side. I've got it 114-113 Khademi.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2022, 10:06:07 PM
And it was a draw.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2022, 10:24:57 PM
Hopefully Riakpohe is better boxing than the twatty ring walk
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2022, 10:36:25 PM
Answer is great shot, good corner work to stop it…
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2022, 10:39:24 PM
Hopefully Riakpohe is better boxing than the twatty ring walk

You could say that. Now over to BT.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2022, 10:47:32 PM
Hopefully Riakpohe is better boxing than the twatty ring walk

You could say that. Now over to BT.
Snap, this seems a good fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on June 11, 2022, 11:20:16 PM
Great result for Davies against the odds but once again what fight was Terry O'Connor watching?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2022, 11:20:37 PM
Two really good fights on BT tonight. FranK Warren can still put a good bill together.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2022, 11:28:18 PM
Two really good fights on BT tonight. FranK Warren can still put a good bill together.
Saw half of each and what I watched was very good.  Let’s see what Dubois can do
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on June 11, 2022, 11:30:00 PM
I enjoy BT's fight coverage. It proves that it's not about big names but 2 evenly matched fighters.

This Bryan/Dubois fight should be interesting.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 11, 2022, 11:36:45 PM
Muhammed Ali v Oscar Bonavena on Sky.

I think the latter was shot and killed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2022, 11:38:50 PM
Tough sell on tickets for Dubois v Bryan then….

….is there anyone there?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on June 11, 2022, 11:44:56 PM
Is it in the local high school gym or something??!

What a pathetic venue
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2022, 11:56:59 PM
Is it in the local high school gym or something??!

What a pathetic venue

It matches the fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on June 11, 2022, 11:57:43 PM
Even the post Ruiz timid Joshua would knock this fella out.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2022, 12:00:25 AM
How is this guy an unbeaten champion.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 12, 2022, 12:01:47 AM
I reckon Dangerous Daz Woolley would have them both on the same night.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2022, 12:02:46 AM
Christ that's a big thud. I mean a really big thud lol
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 12, 2022, 12:04:45 AM
Christ that's a big thud. I mean a really big thud lol

18 1/2 stone just hit the canvas. What did you expect?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2022, 12:07:19 AM
The lack of a crowd in there made it louder than I expected I think. And he's never only 18.5... That guys way over 20st surely.

What an awful fight. They just said there are 3 more fights in there after this one, was it not even top of the card? Proper strange.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 12, 2022, 12:07:46 AM
What a hopeless opponent in a hopeless arena…guess Miami is not a fight town.

 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on June 12, 2022, 12:11:43 AM
Glad I didn't pay to watch that, heavyweight champion you're having a laugh. Anyway well done Dubois, moving into the big league now.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2022, 12:14:59 AM
Dubois doesn't seem the sharpest tac in the box does he. Love them or hate them, Fury and Joshua are clearly fairly switched on, this guy just doesn't seem like he's got the same thought process.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 12, 2022, 12:16:46 AM
The lack of a crowd in there made it louder than I expected I think. And he's never only 18.5... That guys way over 20st surely.

What an awful fight. They just said there are 3 more fights in there after this one, was it not even top of the card? Proper strange.

The top of the bill is never the last fight. They always have a couple that fit in as & when to keep the TV fights on schedule.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 12, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
Muhammed Ali v Oscar Bonavena on Sky.

I think the latter was shot and killed.

I remember watching that fight as a kid. BBC used to show the whole fight the following night in the early 70s
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2022, 09:48:59 PM
Anyone watching tonight?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on June 19, 2022, 06:32:30 PM
Joshua v Usyk will take place, sadly, in Saudi Arabia on Sat 20 August, Sky have confirmed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: four fornicholl on June 25, 2022, 05:11:56 PM
A good night of boxing starts at 7 on sky, lots of new kids including Azim.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 25, 2022, 08:18:55 PM
A good night of boxing starts at 7 on sky, lots of new kids including Azim.

River Bent & Denny has started off well.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 25, 2022, 10:17:40 PM
Career of Azim might be fun to watch
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 25, 2022, 10:58:42 PM
This bloke is incredible. He's soaking up everything so far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 25, 2022, 11:07:22 PM
Even if he loses he has put himself on the list of opponents that’ll be flown in for up and coming fighters…granite, as usual it took 5 rounds for the sky commentators to realise he wasn’t a clown
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 25, 2022, 11:14:31 PM
I'm not so sure that he hasn't done himself out of work. No promising fighter is going to want to look bad against this bloke.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on June 25, 2022, 11:21:08 PM
Maybe! Thought that was a good fight & Eggington did well….
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 02, 2022, 09:49:48 PM
Mark Chamberlain is looking very promising.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 02, 2022, 10:26:30 PM
Jason Cunningham took a step up too far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 02, 2022, 10:49:26 PM
And Joe Joyce managed an unimpressive fourth round stoppage, which is good going. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on July 02, 2022, 11:11:15 PM
5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings

1  Fury  4  Joshua  5  Whyte  7  Joyce  9  Chisora
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 02, 2022, 11:15:42 PM
5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings

1  Fury  4  Joshua  5  Whyte  7  Joyce  9  Chisora

And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on July 03, 2022, 12:42:30 AM
Mark Chamberlain is looking very promising.
Very promising, tough guy against, how he didn’t go down in rd 1 was somerhing
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on July 03, 2022, 12:44:43 AM
And Joe Joyce managed an unimpressive fourth round stoppage, which is good going.
Guess he proved a good chin, not sure he’d still be upright if someone like Wilder’s power had open access to him like Hammer did at start
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on July 03, 2022, 01:44:54 AM
5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings

1  Fury  4  Joshua  5  Whyte  7  Joyce  9  Chisora

And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.

Chisora at 9 seems very high. Possibly Takam, but has he ever beaten anyone he wasn't expected to?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 03, 2022, 11:47:08 PM
5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings

1  Fury  4  Joshua  5  Whyte  7  Joyce  9  Chisora

And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.

Chisora at 9 seems very high. Possibly Takam, but has he ever beaten anyone he wasn't expected to?

Possibly Malik Scott, who was undefeated at the time, but Chisora has had an incredible career. After he won the British title he lost to Fury, his next proper fight was a loss to Robert Helenius for the European title, then he lost to Vitali Klitschko and his reward for losing that was a stadium headliner against David Haye, which he lost. Eleven years and another eight defeats later he's still headlining PPV cards. He's not particularly exciting, he's neither lovable nor a bad guy; he must be the best-marketed British boxer of all time   
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on July 04, 2022, 12:07:16 AM
5 British boxers in the top 10 BOXREC Heavyweight rankings

1  Fury  4  Joshua  5  Whyte  7  Joyce  9  Chisora

And Dubois below Chisora and Robert Helenius. Work that out.

Chisora at 9 seems very high. Possibly Takam, but has he ever beaten anyone he wasn't expected to?

Possibly Malik Scott, who was undefeated at the time, but Chisora has had an incredible career. After he won the British title he lost to Fury, his next proper fight was a loss to Robert Helenius for the European title, then he lost to Vitali Klitschko and his reward for losing that was a stadium headliner against David Haye, which he lost. Eleven years and another eight defeats later he's still headlining PPV cards. He's not particularly exciting, he's neither lovable nor a bad guy; he must be the best-marketed British boxer of all time

Absolutely. He makes Joseph Parker look like Rocky Marciano.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on July 09, 2022, 10:21:40 PM
Not a bad first couple of rounds in the Chisora/Pulev fight....
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 09, 2022, 11:14:10 PM
Decent fight from what I saw.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on July 10, 2022, 09:18:48 AM
Yeah I think the referee deserves credit for not letting them clinch/hold for long periods,breaking them up straight away.

Some dubious scoring again but I was happy to see Chisora finally get a decision go his way.

That said I don't want to see the trilogy!!!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gary Penrice on July 16, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
Will be good to see Sam Noakes & Dennis McCann tonight on the Hamza Sheeraz undercard at the Copper Box.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2022, 09:45:15 PM
There's a nice cruiserweight war breaking out between Chris Billam-Smith and Isaac Chamberlain.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on July 30, 2022, 10:25:23 PM
That was a cracking fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2022, 11:07:22 PM
It was a bit too one-sided to be a classic, but Billam-Smith stayed the distance well. Harlem Eubank's fight ended in unorthodox fashion and it'll be interesting to see what Josh Kelly can do now. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on August 09, 2022, 10:12:28 PM
Eubank jr vrs Benn planned for October according to bbc.

Going to be a catchweigh bout
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on August 12, 2022, 05:56:41 PM
Eubank Benn fight now confirmed 8 Oct 02 Arena. Looks now that Tyson Fury is definitely, maybe, retiring.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Drummond on August 13, 2022, 09:44:55 AM
I don't think Fury is very well.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 13, 2022, 09:50:30 AM
There should be a rule that once you say you've retired, you're banned for life. Attention seeking twat.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 20, 2022, 08:51:41 PM
Eyes down for tonight's entertainment.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on August 20, 2022, 08:58:51 PM
I'm going for AJ ko round 8
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 20, 2022, 09:01:58 PM
I'm going for AJ ko round 8

I can't see him laying much of a glove on Usyk. Good finish by Callum Smith there.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 20, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
Yeah isn't Usyk just too good?
AJ has got to do something big like a knock out
I think Usyk will win though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Drummond on August 20, 2022, 10:57:17 PM
Anyone know where I could watch it please?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: shirley_villan on August 20, 2022, 11:08:32 PM
Anyone know where I could watch it please?

Same. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 20, 2022, 11:40:59 PM
It's getting a bit too easy for Usyk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 20, 2022, 11:50:35 PM
AJ looking handy there
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 20, 2022, 11:55:40 PM
I've got it 96-94 Usyk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 20, 2022, 11:58:52 PM
I've got it 96-94 Usyk.

I haven't been watching, but following live text and it sounds a much better fight than the first.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KevinGage on August 21, 2022, 12:05:47 AM
Better from AJ tonight.

But Usyk is a freak. Has the waspish hand speed and movement of a bantomweight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 21, 2022, 12:10:43 AM
Better from AJ tonight.

But Usyk is a freak. Has the waspish hand speed and movement of a bantomweight.

He is a great fighter. I don't think that's the end for AJ, but he'll need a couple of good wins to re-establish himself. Could fight Wilder, maybe?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on August 21, 2022, 12:13:59 AM
I thinj AJ was a bit unlucky there, Usyk landed a lot of punches but nothing particularly hurtful whereas AJ landed a few really good shots that had Usyk hurt. By being mobile Usyk dodged around to get his legs back so AJ couldn't capitalise.

Good fight though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 21, 2022, 12:15:25 AM
Looks like AJ's corner were feeding him some questionable advice between rounds. Telling him he won the first three, for example. Maybe McCracken would've been more perceptive/honest?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KevinGage on August 21, 2022, 12:15:44 AM
Depends if he's still got the hunger.

It's odd, as one (justified) criticism of AJ in the early years was he faced handpicked plodders.

But if there's one matchup he should have swerved it's this one.

Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Steve67 on August 21, 2022, 12:18:21 AM
Better from AJ but split decision?  Not for me.  Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot.  The better fighter won, sadly.  Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 21, 2022, 12:19:17 AM
Depends if he's still got the hunger.

It's odd, as one (justified) criticism of AJ in the early years was he faced handpicked plodders.

But if there's one matchup he should have swerved it's this one.

Was Usyk mandatory, I can't remember?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nordenvillain on August 21, 2022, 12:23:12 AM
Better from AJ but split decision?  Not for me.  Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot.  The better fighter won, sadly.  Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine. 
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on August 21, 2022, 12:26:10 AM
Better from AJ but split decision?  Not for me.  Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot.  The better fighter won, sadly.  Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine. 
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.

It was the American.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nordenvillain on August 21, 2022, 12:31:15 AM
Better from AJ but split decision?  Not for me.  Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot.  The better fighter won, sadly.  Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine. 
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.

It was the American.
In that case, it was the American judge that was watching the wrong fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: PeterWithe on August 21, 2022, 12:32:47 AM
Fuck me, surely someone should have turned off the microphone and told AJ he lost and to shut up. Usyk quite a bit ahead for me.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 21, 2022, 12:33:13 AM
What was the post-fight stuff from AJ all about? Only caught bits online but seems a little embarrassing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KevinGage on August 21, 2022, 12:36:31 AM
Think he had one cuff on the head too many.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on August 21, 2022, 12:39:09 AM
Better from AJ but split decision?  Not for me.  Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot.  The better fighter won, sadly.  Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine. 
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.

It was the American.
In that case, it was the American judge that was watching the wrong fight

I assume he was looking for punches that were actually making an impact. Usyk is a fantastic technical fighter but he fought like it was a amateur bout tonight (other than round 10), focusing on landing lots of shots to impress judges rather than to hurt AJ. It was impressive and showed his higher skill level but I can see why a judge might see through it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: paul_e on August 21, 2022, 12:41:57 AM
Think he had one cuff on the head too many.

His corner kept telling him he was winning and he knew he'd landed some big shots without really feeling in danger himself (r10 aside). I reckon he genuinely felt he'd done enough to win.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 21, 2022, 12:43:37 AM
I think 116-112 in favour of Usyk was about right. Much closer than the 1st fight but Usyk still a level above. Joshua was a bit frustrating at times. Hit some good body shots but didn't follow up enough.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Goldenballs on August 21, 2022, 12:53:01 AM
Found that a bit disrespectful from AJ tbh, it's Usyk's moment, nobody cares about your life story at this moment in time. Especially when you've already flounced off once and chucked the belts on the floor.

Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on August 21, 2022, 01:48:39 AM
Listened to the fight on the radio and most of the people they spoke to there had Usyk by at least two.  Might not be the career-ending loss for Joshua that some had predicted it might be and there probably are still some pretty high-profile fights out there for him, albeit not on the scale he has experienced up until now.  Whether he wants to carry on against the likes of Whyte etc. is another thing though.

Can't really see Fury being too interested in fighting Usyk, so might finally go through with his long talked about retirement. Usyk v Wilder might be the next best bet.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KevinGage on August 21, 2022, 01:59:35 AM
Armani Jeans is 32, Usyk is 35. 36 in a few months.

It's not impossible that AJ could play the waiting game, pace himself and have 2-3 money-spinning fights in the next few years and face an Usyk on the decline around 2024/25.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 21, 2022, 03:31:10 AM
Armani Jeans is 32, Usyk is 35. 36 in a few months.

It's not impossible that AJ could play the waiting game, pace himself and have 2-3 money-spinning fights in the next few years and face an Usyk on the decline around 2024/25.

I agree about AJ playing the waiting game, but I think that's it for him vs Usyk. Fury is the next step for Usyk, and either he wins (I cannot see that, personally, I think Fury has the ring IQ to beat him) or he loses and there will be a rematch.

If he wins, he will have unified the Cruiserweight and Heavyweight divisions. Why bother fighting on beyond that? Not only would it be unprecedented, but the only way would be down.

If he loses and there's a rematch, he'd be at least 38-odd before entertaining his next opponent.

Even if AJ makes it back to contention, assuming Fury beats Usyk and becomes undisputed, Usyk would be facing AJ for no belts, so why bother?

I think AJ was so angry tonight because he knew. There'll be no third fight. Even if he rebuilds and unifies the division, he knows he won't get another shot at Usyk. It's not terminal, but it is definitely a permanent stain on his legacy.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: JD on August 21, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
Well AJ should have shown a bit more aggression and anger during the fight not after. He was out boxed again by Usyk who just did enough to convince the judges.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: nigel on August 21, 2022, 10:16:52 AM
Better from AJ but split decision?  Not for me.  Usyk was the more mobile boxer and landed well where AJ sprayed quite a lot.  The better fighter won, sadly.  Good to see the Flag bearing afterwards in support of Ukraine. 
This, surely it could've only been the British judge that gave it to AJ.

It was the American.
In that case, it was the American judge that was watching the wrong fight

I assume he was looking for punches that were actually making an impact. Usyk is a fantastic technical fighter but he fought like it was a amateur bout tonight (other than round 10), focusing on landing lots of shots to impress judges rather than to hurt AJ. It was impressive and showed his higher skill level but I can see why a judge might see through it.

Aren’t the judges sat at different places ring side?
In which case the American judge would have had a completely different view of the fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Pete3206 on August 21, 2022, 10:34:54 AM
Joshua lost the plot after the fight. Bizarre.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on August 21, 2022, 10:26:20 PM
What was the post-fight stuff from AJ all about? Only caught bits online but seems a little embarrassing.

He's a massive bellend. His stuff on the mic was bad enough when he managed to somehow win a fight, but nobody at all wants to hear from you when you've just lost again. His movement makes Frank Bruno look like Ali.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: ozzjim on August 22, 2022, 11:33:43 PM
Better than listening to Fury try and bloody sing,  I can't find the off button fast enough.  There does seem to be an in built knob button to our heavyweights.  Usyk just seems a bit potty,  but he's a hell of a boxer. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 22, 2022, 11:43:35 PM
Better than listening to Fury try and bloody sing,  I can't find the off button fast enough.  There does seem to be an in built knob button to our heavyweights.  Usyk just seems a bit potty,  but he's a hell of a boxer.

Usyk is a proper eccentric and quite a witty man, I think, and he's been respectful throughout.

AJ made a bit of a tit of himself, but credit to him for coming back, giving Usyk praise and talking about the war in Ukraine. Joshua has quite often been a bit of a PR machine, so I don't mind giving him a bit of leeway for being a twat after what must be a devastating loss.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on August 23, 2022, 12:25:46 AM
Talking about the war in Ukraine?!

"I don't know what's happening there - but it's not nice at the end of the day."

It's a bad thing that's happening there alright.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 23, 2022, 02:28:15 AM
To be fair, he held up a Ukraine flag and mentioned it. I'm not claiming he's a professor of international relations but he at least tried - and after a potentially career-ending loss.

I wanted Usyk to win, because I think he's the better boxer, but I reckon AJ was more magnanimous than many losing fighters would've been.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on August 23, 2022, 09:02:53 AM
Each to their own! Chucking the belts on the floor, storming off, then coming back to mutter something about Ukraine that would have embarrassed a 6 year old, then going on a bizarre rant - bloke's an absolute grade A arse in my opinion.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: PeterWithe on August 23, 2022, 09:07:44 AM
To be fair, he held up a Ukraine flag and mentioned it. I'm not claiming he's a professor of international relations but he at least tried - and after a potentially career-ending loss.

I wanted Usyk to win, because I think he's the better boxer, but I reckon AJ was more magnanimous than many losing fighters would've been.

Or he could have not grabbed the microphone and refused to give it back?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 23, 2022, 10:17:01 AM
I did say he made a tit of himself. But I think he tried to correct that. The history of boxing is littered with fighters acting like complete dickheads. Joshua's was just a heat of the moment tantrum.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on August 23, 2022, 10:52:42 AM
I did say he made a tit of himself. But I think he tried to correct that. The history of boxing is littered with fighters acting like complete dickheads. Joshua's was just a heat of the moment tantrum.
There is, but I can't remember seeing any boxer having a rant like Joshua did.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on August 23, 2022, 12:32:44 PM
I did say he made a tit of himself. But I think he tried to correct that. The history of boxing is littered with fighters acting like complete dickheads. Joshua's was just a heat of the moment tantrum.
There is, but I can't remember seeing any boxer having a rant like Joshua did.

Not after a fight, no. It's usually before.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on September 09, 2022, 02:02:47 PM
Marshall v Shields fight in doubt, presumably someone will make a decision sometime today.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on September 09, 2022, 04:06:15 PM
Has now been postponed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on September 09, 2022, 04:07:49 PM
Provisionally rescheduled to 15 Oct
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on September 13, 2022, 12:22:24 PM
Tyson Fury versus AJ looking like it will go ahead 3rd December.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KRS on September 13, 2022, 03:07:34 PM
Surely that’s going to be a career ending fight for AJ…or could end up being a trilogy of fights between them.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 13, 2022, 03:08:13 PM
Fury is now starting to get boring.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: KRS on September 13, 2022, 04:14:00 PM
Starting?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on September 13, 2022, 05:04:24 PM
Tyson Fury versus AJ looking like it will go ahead 3rd December.

Should be off again by this time next week then….the only thing more boring than Fury vs AJ posturing is Hearn vs Warren making everything all about them
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on September 13, 2022, 05:37:32 PM
At least Fury has got the ability and record to back up what he says. Joshua should be grateful he's been offered such a decent split of the wallet. He's turned into a bit of an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on September 14, 2022, 01:00:01 PM
At least Fury has got the ability and record to back up what he says. Joshua should be grateful he's been offered such a decent split of the wallet. He's turned into a bit of an embarrassment.

Yep three defeats in his last five fights and gets the offer of a huge purse, I expect Tyson to floor AJ.

I would have preferred to see Tyson versus Usyk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on September 14, 2022, 02:07:22 PM
Me too. That could be an interesting fight. I don't think Usyk could hurt Fury, but he's qo quick and throws so many punches, that if it went to points it'd be interesting.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on September 14, 2022, 02:21:04 PM
Me too. That could be an interesting fight. I don't think Usyk could hurt Fury, but he's qo quick and throws so many punches, that if it went to points it'd be interesting.

Yes the boxing styles are similar but with Tyson being much bigger I think he would soak up any punches from Usyk without getting hurt before over powering him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 14, 2022, 04:11:50 PM
I'd imagine Fury will, eventually, fight both of them, having retired another eleven or twelve times in the meantime.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on September 14, 2022, 11:43:53 PM
I'd imagine Fury will, eventually, fight both of them, having retired another eleven or twelve times in the meantime.

Yeah, heard an interview with him the other day where he said that Usyk has already stated he will not be fighting again in 2022. 

Works perfectly for Fury I suppose.  Joshua in Cardiff in December and then a big early summer fight against Usyk in 2023.   He wins those two and then he could walk away knowing that he has achieved everything he possibly could.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on September 14, 2022, 11:47:44 PM
Me too. That could be an interesting fight. I don't think Usyk could hurt Fury, but he's qo quick and throws so many punches, that if it went to points it'd be interesting.

Yes the boxing styles are similar but with Tyson being much bigger I think he would soak up any punches from Usyk without getting hurt before over powering him.

Think Fury has more boxing nous than Joshua and would have the ring craft to make his size advantage over Uysk really count. 

AJ didn't have that lengthy amateur career and I think that lack of experience has shown at times during his pro career. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 17, 2022, 06:04:27 PM
I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on September 17, 2022, 11:39:39 PM
I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.

That one went under the radar a bit, I had no idea. He fought some very good opponents: Bugner, Holmes, Norton, Ali, Lyle.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: manic-road on September 18, 2022, 11:30:36 AM
I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.

That one went under the radar a bit, I had no idea. He fought some very good opponents: Bugner, Holmes, Norton, Ali, Lyle.

I hadn't heard that he has passed, 69 knockouts with 23 of them in the first round.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 18, 2022, 12:00:15 PM
Steve Bunce wrote a great piece about him and his generation of heavyweights in last week's Boxing News. Sharing your peak years with Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes is the definition of unlucky.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on September 18, 2022, 11:40:35 PM
Steve Bunce wrote a great piece about him and his generation of heavyweights in last week's Boxing News. Sharing your peak years with Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes is the definition of unlucky.

True so, bit like being a middleweight in the early-mid '80s.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on September 24, 2022, 02:57:01 PM
Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 24, 2022, 03:59:00 PM
Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.

Because people will pay to watch it. Heavyweights bring out the casual fan.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on September 24, 2022, 04:13:28 PM
Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.

Because people will pay to watch it. Heavyweights bring out the casual fan.

Yeah Dave but there will still be many, who want to watch it, but due to the present cost of living crisis, will be unable to do so, as it's a luxury, they cannot afford, that's why it's wrong.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 24, 2022, 04:20:24 PM
I agree it's wrong but that's the free market and in particular, the modern obsession with sport on TV.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on September 24, 2022, 06:18:06 PM
Why is Parker v Joyce on pay per view, one is ranked 7th in the world and the other 8th, it's a joke, not to mention, we are going through one of the most difficult times witnessed since the war, but I doubt, whether the powers that be are aware of that.

Because people will pay to watch it. Heavyweights bring out the casual fan.

Yeah Dave but there will still be many, who want to watch it, but due to the present cost of living crisis, will be unable to do so, as it's a luxury, they cannot afford, that's why it's wrong.

Personally I just don’t watch them, much like
Villa away games I just can’t be arsed trying to find streams.  If it’s a decent fight it will be on the main channel to watch by midweek
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 24, 2022, 08:30:10 PM
Boxing does itself no favours at times. You have weekends when there's nothing on TV then some nights there's three bills being shown. Then you have a situation like tonight, with two fringe world class fighters are on PPV while the other card has the top of the bill fight pulled and the chief support now headlining.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 24, 2022, 11:34:43 PM
Now, that was worth it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 24, 2022, 11:42:50 PM
That was a cracking contest. Two very good fighters.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: knowsleyvillain on September 25, 2022, 01:29:06 AM
I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
I've just read about the death of Ernie Shavers a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the hardest-hitting heavyweight of all time and equally perhaps the best never to win a world title.
Did not no this I remember when I first moved up north & used to start our night out in Yates wine bar in queens square always to be greeted by a huge American bouncer always friendly to be told a few weeks later he was a famous American boxer Earnie Shavers.RIP. Great performance by Joyce tonight he’s going to be a hard nights work for the top end of the heavyweight division.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2022, 01:51:17 PM
Very impressive from Joyce, first man to stop Parker, if the Fury Joshua fight doesn't go ahead, would love to see him fight AJ.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Drummond on October 05, 2022, 03:12:41 PM
Eubank v Benn off because of a positive drugs test by Conor Benn. Fertility drug or something which could increase Testosterone.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: aldridgeboy on October 06, 2022, 05:03:18 PM
Very disappointing. I was really looking forward to the fight as well.

And what’s ridiculous thing to take. I wonder how he will try and riddle out of that, as athletes invariably do. You can hardly claim “ contaminated meat” or “ flu cure “ for that drug !
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 06, 2022, 07:55:13 PM
Suddenly you start to see how Benn became the most improved fighter in the country.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on October 08, 2022, 09:53:41 AM
Papers are saying Benn is facing a 4 year ban.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 09, 2022, 01:01:50 AM
Sam Eggington got beat yesterday. He should be thinking about retiring while he can still write his name.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on October 09, 2022, 07:39:33 AM
Papers are saying Benn is facing a 4 year ban.

Bunce was pretty damning on the BBC podcast. Once Bunce turns, you know things are bad.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Gareth on October 09, 2022, 11:23:28 AM
Sam Eggington got beat yesterday. He should be thinking about retiring while he can still write his name.
Absolutely, made the most of his talent & been toe to toe enough
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on October 15, 2022, 12:22:32 PM
Cards on the table time and aware that some may frown on this opinion, but I just find women's fighting sports tough to watch at times, as although I admire the bravery and skill on show, I'm still not overly comfortable watching women being hit in the face and hurt. 

With that said, I am really intrigued by the fight tonight.  Shields is the brash kind of American sportsperson who you just want to see beaten and I hope Savannah Marshall can do that.  I haven't seen enough of either fighter to know the form and if that is a likely prospect, but again don't know how comfortable I feel with wanting to see a female get a hiding and potentially knocked out for my entertainment. 

Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2022, 12:31:08 PM
I used feel the same, then I thought that boxing can never be morally justified in any circumstance. Paying to watch men hurt each other is highly questionable and my only defence is that they choose to do it. That being the case, women should have the same opportunity.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on October 15, 2022, 12:46:33 PM
I used feel the same, then I thought that boxing can never be morally justified in any circumstance. Paying to watch men hurt each other is highly questionable and my only defence is that they choose to do it. That being the case, women should have the same opportunity.

Agree with that Dave.  Have absolutely no qualms about women having the opportunity to be involved in combat sports, I guess it's more an internal wrestle of whether I can enjoy it. 

I've always felt empathy for any boxer who loses a fight really, as not only have they got to deal with the anguish of defeat, but also the physical damage that has been inflicted on them. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on October 15, 2022, 01:00:22 PM
Yeah I used to be the same, but the standard of women's boxing has greatly improved over the years, also I've noticed generally, if one of the women is taking a beating, the ref will stop a fight much earlier than they would for a man's fight.

Really looking forward to the Marshall fight, reckon she is a credit to the sport, really hoping she beats Shields.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
Women's boxing has vastly improved. Some of the early bouts were embarrassing; fighters had no idea of how to box and sometimes looked close to tears. As with football, the more women involved, the better it has become.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on October 15, 2022, 10:20:54 PM
Disagree with the decision, thought Mayer won it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on October 15, 2022, 10:30:47 PM
Thing I’ve noticed when watching some of the highlights of Savannah Marshall is that she is quite a bit taller than her opponents and seems to use that advantage well.  Hopefully will be the case tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2022, 10:33:02 PM
Disagree with the decision, thought Mayer won it.

I was watching the results, got as far as 96-94 to... THEN IT SWITCHED TO WOMEN'S FUCKING GOLF!!!
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on October 15, 2022, 10:59:26 PM
Explosive start.  Think it could be argued it’s 2-1 Shields after 3, but could easily be 3-0 as well. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2022, 11:06:53 PM
Shields seems to be different class. This surely won't last the distance.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on October 15, 2022, 11:23:31 PM
Right decision, but what a fight, superb stuff, credit to both women.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2022, 11:44:31 PM
i had it 97-93, and one of those was probably a sympathy round. It was too one-sided to be a classic but it's shown how good womens boxing has become.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on October 16, 2022, 12:42:24 AM
i had it 97-93, and one of those was probably a sympathy round. It was too one-sided to be a classic but it's shown how good womens boxing has become.

Yeah, think four rounds was about right Dave.  Savannah Marshall was brave, game and gave it a right go, but Shields just looked the more accomplished boxer and it told on the night. 

Credit to both though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 16, 2022, 11:51:33 AM
Deontay Wilder's back.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Risso on October 17, 2022, 09:51:45 AM
Deontay Wilder's back.

And meanwhile, in a fight that the whole world wasn't begging to see, Fury is going to fight Chisora. Again.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 17, 2022, 10:42:35 AM
Deontay Wilder's back.

And meanwhile, in a fight that the whole world wasn't begging to see, Fury is going to fight Chisora. Again.

Believe that one when you see it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on October 19, 2022, 01:18:57 PM
Taylor and Catterall have agreed a rematch, fight expected to take place in Glasgow on 4 February, hopefully they won't be using the same judges.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on October 20, 2022, 12:15:45 PM
Deontay Wilder's back.

And meanwhile, in a fight that the whole world wasn't begging to see, Fury is going to fight Chisora. Again.

Makes sense for Fury I suppose.  What should be a rotine warm up fight before a fight with Usyk next spring.  Not sure about a UK open air stadium fight in December though?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 29, 2022, 09:16:46 PM
Tonight's going much as expected.

Correction: Kiko Martinez just keeps going on
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 05, 2022, 09:33:21 PM
Gal & Kal both win on points, Kal looking well off.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on November 12, 2022, 11:12:18 PM
Very impressive from Natasha Jonas
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 19, 2022, 10:24:05 PM
Good win for Anthiny Yarde and a stiff test upcoming for Liam Davies.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2022, 09:15:21 PM
Four TV shows in three days starts now.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2022, 09:29:29 PM
Anyone watching tonight's bills?
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 03, 2022, 09:04:57 PM
That was a straightforward win for Dubois.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 03, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
Fury and Chisora have a lot of respect for each other. Chisora is however taking too much punishment
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 03, 2022, 10:14:57 PM
The right decision to stop it even if it’s Two or three rounds too late.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 03, 2022, 10:26:07 PM
Chisora's corner should be banned for that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Villa Lew on December 03, 2022, 10:28:38 PM
No contest, as expected, Chisora is nearly 39 now has 13 losses, time to hang the gloves up Derek.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Goldenballs on December 03, 2022, 11:29:52 PM
Joke of a fight, Fury could've finished that whenever he felt like it. A waste of everyone's time.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: Rory on December 04, 2022, 02:00:06 AM
Yep, Fury giving his mate one last payday. I would call it a glorified sparring session, but I suspect Fury spars with better than Chisora.
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: tomd2103 on December 04, 2022, 12:56:20 PM
Joke of a fight, Fury could've finished that whenever he felt like it. A waste of everyone's time.

Except for the fighters I suppose.  Fury got a pay day and tune up before fighting Usyk next year and Chisora got his last big pay day and an outside shot at a world title. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2022
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 10, 2022, 09:29:15 PM
Felix Cash starts tonight's proceedings.
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