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Title: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: gregavfc69/70 on December 24, 2021, 03:14:21 PM

Please can anyone identify the locations of Villa's training grounds prior to Bodymoor Heath?

I vaguely remember a Tubes site somewhere down College Road near to Perry Barr.

If so, in what year was it sold, seemingly to raise funds to keep the club going?
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 24, 2021, 03:48:49 PM
I think we had a site on Trinity Road that was sold in aroundd 1965.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 24, 2021, 04:39:20 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the club begged or borrowed facilities from local factories between the training ground being sold and Doug buying Bodymoor Heath. Hardy Spicer in Erdington/Pype Hayes rings a bell as one them but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on December 24, 2021, 04:56:12 PM
I think we had a site on Trinity Road that was sold in aroundd 1965.
Yeah,the King Edward School playing fields just after the lights by the Trinity Rd/Witton Rd junction.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on December 24, 2021, 06:36:14 PM
In 66, 67? I was told they trained at Villa Park, and that’s where I got their autographs as they emerged. Post Hateley (boo!), so I guess 67.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 24, 2021, 07:21:34 PM
I think they used the Lucas Works pitch and sometimes trained on Aston Park, if they didn't want to knacker the pitch up.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: gregavfc69/70 on December 27, 2021, 12:51:20 PM
Lucas Works? That rings a bell, what road was that on?
Wasn't Bodymoor Heath gifted to the club by a Villa supporting farmer?
Think the training ground was named as Bond Street to honour the landowner.
So I'm sure Doug did not pay a penny for it.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: gregavfc69/70 on December 27, 2021, 12:53:13 PM
Woofles, why do you say ''boo'' to Hateley?

Because he was no good?  Or you disagreed with his transfer?
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 27, 2021, 09:56:30 PM
I believe Bond Street at Bodymoor was dedicated to the memory of Bert Bond, Villa's groundsman for many years until his death in 1973.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 27, 2021, 10:00:40 PM
I'm sure it was named after Bert Bond, and Doug bought the land from a local farmer. With his own money, according to Doug. 
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 27, 2021, 10:09:45 PM
According to Mr Aitken during the turmoil of the late 60s they sold the training ground and the players had to train on various local factory pitches.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on December 28, 2021, 06:40:15 PM
Woofles, why do you say ''boo'' to Hateley?

Because he was no good?  Or you disagreed with his transfer?

He was my hero and was devastated when we flogged him. It signalled relegation to me.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 28, 2021, 11:08:08 PM
On the official history of...video, Charlie Aitken, reflecting on the training arrangements at the club said, "I was better treated as an amateur!"
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: KevinGage on December 29, 2021, 03:30:34 PM
My older neighbour seemed pretty certain Villa used to train in the pitch at the back of Reservoir Road in Erdington way back in the day, just near the top of the hill.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: BC54 VFC on January 02, 2022, 12:22:26 AM
During the 1968-69 season (and quite possibly for longer) the team trained at Cooksey Lane, Kingstanding. I know this because, along with others, I was a winner in a Co-Op painting competition (very fortunate because I've never been any good at painting!) and part of my prize, along with a 1968-69 season ticket and a tour around Villa Park, was a trip to watch the players train at Cooksey Lane.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: gregavfc69/70 on January 02, 2022, 04:36:47 PM
On You Tube, I've just watched again Villa 2 Chelsea 6 from Sept. 1966 and yes Woofles, I agree
with you that Tony Hateley was their main dangerman, he certainly stood out that day.
Overall, what a bunch of mediocre players!
Poor passing, misplaced passes, no style of play or incisive attacking moves.
Park and Scott virtually anonymous; Deakin and Aitken poor in the tackle, bad errors.
MacLeod and Tindall huffing and puffing, no great contribution so too Wright.
Chatterley lumbering up front with TH, he was a better defender in truth.
They were a Second Division team in the top flight.
No surprise they went down - as you say - without Hateley, it was inevitable.  Very sad.

Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: DeKuip on January 07, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
During the 1968-69 season (and quite possibly for longer) the team trained at Cooksey Lane, Kingstanding. I know this because, along with others, I was a winner in a Co-Op painting competition (very fortunate because I've never been any good at painting!) and part of my prize, along with a 1968-69 season ticket and a tour around Villa Park, was a trip to watch the players train at Cooksey Lane.
Yes, I remember going down there in the school holiday with an autograph book I’d been given as a present. It was the first time I’d ever gone autograph hunting and when I got home I hadn’t got a clue which players’ scribbles I’d got apart from Willie Anderson. Even my dad couldn’t work them out when he got home from work.
Never bothered again with that short-lived hobby and went back to collecting bird’s eggs from nests - at least I could identify them.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: London Villan on January 17, 2022, 03:29:28 PM
I'm sure it was named after Bert Bond, and Doug bought the land from a local farmer. With his own money, according to Doug. 

Didn't Doug's construction work then do all the building work? Convenient that.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: tony scott on April 21, 2022, 10:54:27 AM
I remember the first team crossing witton rd and trinity rd at the traffic lights, in the early 1960s, they were led by Derek Dougan pretending to be an old man complete with false beard and walking stick. I saw this from the inside of a number 5 bus waiting at the,at the time I always thought there was training up the road towards villa cross .
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on May 26, 2022, 10:24:43 PM
I played in goal for my Polytechnic at Arsenal’s training ground, London Colney, in November 1970. What a shithole it was (probably par for the times).

The place was rather like Bodymoor in that it attracted wind to add to the freezing cold.

As for the game, I can’t remember the score but I made the save of my life tipping a shot over the bar. There was a cost though - the ball caught the end of my right hand fingers, and by the end of the game I took my gloves off to reveal the third and fourth fingers looked like rancid pork sausages. I didn’t play again that season, and was far too stoned or speeding or tripping the next.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 31, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the club begged or borrowed facilities from local factories between the training ground being sold and Doug buying Bodymoor Heath. Hardy Spicer in Erdington/Pype Hayes rings a bell as one them but I may be wrong.

I remember they trained for a few weeks at the Delta sports ground and club now called the Holly Lane sports & social club.  Would have been around 69/70.
Title: Re: The training ground locations prior to Bodymoor Heath.
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 31, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
I heard we used the Lucas sports ground during this period.

As Charlie Aitken said on the 'History' video, "I was better treated as  an amateur."
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