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Title: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 08, 2021, 02:03:23 AM
Things are getting a bit better:

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Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: nigel on December 08, 2021, 07:12:29 PM
My first season.
Gillingham first game.
Bristol Rovers, twice
Chesterfield
Remember the Torquay game. We battered them for 80 mins, then Cave scores
I also remember Torquay as they wore yellow and the other four wore blue and white
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: dave shelley on December 08, 2021, 07:59:44 PM
Oh those memories.  I was on holiday on the Norfolk Broads for the opening game against Chesterfield and the cup game against Notts County.  Drove home hell-for-leather for that Plymouth draw. I purchased a jungle hat on that holiday and I still have it, wear it for gardening duties.  I also travelled on that special out of New St to Bristol for the League Cup and got caught up in the trouble at the station afterwards.  I could go on for hours about that season.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 08, 2021, 08:46:04 PM
Had forgotten that Reading used to be The Biscuitmen.

A lot more interesting than The Royals.

See also Barrow being The Ziggers.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: Vegas on December 08, 2021, 09:36:40 PM
The biscuitmen sounds like a cheap but quite scary B movie
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 08, 2021, 09:47:57 PM
This is when I started going regular home and away.
Rochdale and Halifax were without doubt the two biggest dumps we went to, accompanied by just about the smallest crowds .
This was pre M42, so lots of trips by road via Tamworth, Measham, Ashby to reach the M1.
Man U in the home semi final is without doubt the greatest atmosphere ever at Villa Park.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: robbo1874 on December 09, 2021, 09:41:54 AM
Nice posts fellas. Must’ve been very strange times to both live in and be a Villa supporter.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: papa lazarou on December 09, 2021, 10:11:14 AM
This is when I started going regular home and away.
Rochdale and Halifax were without doubt the two biggest dumps we went to, accompanied by just about the smallest crowds .
This was pre M42, so lots of trips by road via Tamworth, Measham, Ashby to reach the M1.
Man U in the home semi final is without doubt the greatest atmosphere ever at Villa Park.

Same as me, home and away employing various modes of transport. One of them was a Ford Thames van, Anglia style, two in the front and usually three in the back. A tad uncomfortable at times and we broke down more than once but it didn't matter. On one trip we stopped at a services on the M1 around Leicester and we met Andy Lochead who was waiting for the team coach to pick him up en route to the game. Somehow I don't think that would happen today.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: nick harper on December 09, 2021, 11:19:36 AM
I always think of the Chesterfield game as the start of the journey to Rotterdam. Only Forest and Clough’s genius is comparable.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: Damo70 on December 09, 2021, 12:04:05 PM
I was at Witney Town in Oxfordshire for BFR's first game in charge. A few new signings made their debut that evening. I believe he had done some coaching there when he played for Oxford. We were just stood around the touchline chatting to the players who had been substituted. I think we won 6-0 although one of the goals was 'scored' by Ivo Stas who had hit the side netting and the ball crept through a hole in the net. Kevin Richardson had just signed for us after his spell in Spain and I have no idea how or why but at some point after he was substituted I was stood next to him on the touchline and I was I was discussing Spanish lager with him as the game carried on.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: steamer on December 11, 2021, 04:45:47 AM
That Yanited game is one of my fondest memories
My mate Bill and i  got to VP at about 9.00 on Saturday night to queue for tickets that were on sale Sunday Morning.
The ticket offices were under the steps at the trinity. we took our sleeping back place at roughly the corner of the Holte
When we got our tickets and left ,the queue was around past the Holte pub and halfway down witton lane
That night was awesome, biggest crowd I have ever been in at VP, the atmosphere, maybe it has grown with memory, but as John said, Villa,Villa,Villa
Goosebumps time as I write
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: olaftab on December 11, 2021, 07:20:31 AM
Strangely enough I don’t recall any long queues for tickets for the manu semi final. I was too young to buy a ticket so my mate’s older brother got us the tickets and it was just a case of walking up and buying. But 61000 (officially😉) in the ground just mental.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 11, 2021, 08:25:51 AM
Thought I read that there was 62,500 for the second leg, but could be wrong
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: olaftab on December 11, 2021, 12:22:25 PM
lol...attendance accuracy in them days. Officially stated in book keeping as 58,667 however 61 or 61,500 was number reported on the day. What I do recall is there were lots and lots and that was my first match at Villa park and since then I have been disappointed with  attendance levels.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 11, 2021, 09:35:35 PM
Yes, I recall queueing all night for tickets. The turnstiles opened at about 10:00 am.

I got my ticket for the Trinity downstairs, went home, watched Villa beat Bradford on Star Soccer, then fell asleep!!
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 12, 2021, 04:42:59 PM
This is when I started going regular home and away.
Rochdale and Halifax were without doubt the two biggest dumps we went to, accompanied by just about the smallest crowds .
This was pre M42, so lots of trips by road via Tamworth, Measham, Ashby to reach the M1.
Man U in the home semi final is without doubt the greatest atmosphere ever at Villa Park.

Belle view matches the shay and spotland was just a little bit of an upgrade.   Layer road was another complete dump
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 12, 2021, 06:58:01 PM
We played at Belle Vue Doncaster on a friday night (very Tranmere) in March. The push for promotion was faltering after the League Cup final and we lost 2-1.
Doncaster themselves were struggling near the foot of the table and got relegated. Their young manager making his way in the game was booed all along the touchline by the home fans who clearly wanted him out. His name was Lawrie McMenemy.
I don't remember Layer Road Colchester as being particularly a dump for the league cup game down there, just very small compared with some of the big old northern grounds which often had a big covered terrace down the side not dissimilar to the Sty at that time.
Title: Re: 1970-71: Outposts of English football
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 12, 2021, 07:38:08 PM
We played at Belle Vue Doncaster on a friday night (very Tranmere) in March. The push for promotion was faltering after the League Cup final and we lost 2-1.
Doncaster themselves were struggling near the foot of the table and got relegated. Their young manager making his way in the game was booed all along the touchline by the home fans who clearly wanted him out. His name was Lawrie McMenemy.
I don't remember Layer Road Colchester as being particularly a dump for the league cup game down there, just very small compared with some of the big old northern grounds which often had a big covered terrace down the side not dissimilar to the Sty at that time.

Layer Road, wooden floors and that small split home end - small version of Ipswich North Stand
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