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Title: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 09, 2021, 10:16:53 PM
Tonight's episode.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2021/11/09/avoiding-the-gee-spot/
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Legion on November 09, 2021, 10:29:12 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Legion on November 09, 2021, 10:33:08 PM
Clever opening paragraphs.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Louzie0 on November 09, 2021, 10:38:28 PM
Yes, good article, Dave 👍
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Steve67 on November 09, 2021, 10:44:03 PM
It'll all be ok as Johan Lange is apparently putting together a dossier, according to Sky Sports News, thank goodness for the dossier!!  I know there are debates elsewhere on this, but I don't understand why Villa would bring in a Manager with less experience than the guy they sacked.  Gerrard's coach sounds like a top coach to be fair, but that's about the only redeeming feature to such an appointment, if it happens.

Enjoyed the article Dave.  I hope Mr Purslow reads it.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 09, 2021, 10:48:14 PM
Clever opening paragraphs.

Clever closing one too.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 09, 2021, 10:48:26 PM
It'll all be ok as Johan Lange is apparently putting together a dossier, according to Sky Sports News, thank goodness for the dossier!!  I know there are debates elsewhere on this, but I don't understand why Villa would bring in a Manager with less experience than the guy they sacked.  Gerrard's coach sounds like a top coach to be fair, but that's about the only redeeming feature to such an appointment, if it happens.

Enjoyed the article Dave.  I hope Mr Purslow reads it.

And the stats guy is highly rated too apparently.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Risso on November 09, 2021, 10:53:42 PM
It'll all be ok as Johan Lange is apparently putting together a dossier, according to Sky Sports News, thank goodness for the dossier!!  I know there are debates elsewhere on this, but I don't understand why Villa would bring in a Manager with less experience than the guy they sacked.  Gerrard's coach sounds like a top coach to be fair, but that's about the only redeeming feature to such an appointment, if it happens.

Enjoyed the article Dave.  I hope Mr Purslow reads it.

Dean Smith had much less experience than Steve Bruce.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Legion on November 09, 2021, 10:55:23 PM
But eventually a lot more success.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Risso on November 09, 2021, 10:58:30 PM
But eventually a lot more success.

That's the point I was making Lee. Experience by itself is no guarantee of success.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Legion on November 09, 2021, 11:00:39 PM
Yes. I see. Just re-read it.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 09, 2021, 11:06:18 PM
I’m keeping an open mind until I no longer have to. Not my preferred choice but let’s see what he brings. Good article
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: ROBBO on November 09, 2021, 11:07:21 PM
Grealish leaving has really pricked the balloon, as has happened many times before, we were i believe, on the edge of something really remarkable. Vic Crowe like Dean Smith was Villa through and through and both were casualties of their best players being either sold or choosing to move up to a so called bigger club. This time the difference is that the player leaving was we believed one of us. My biggest fear is that the owners will become disallusioned with it all and sell up, thats why the the next senior coach appointment will tell us a lot about the future.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: ozzjim on November 09, 2021, 11:10:01 PM
Good article. Nothing we can do but hope it turns out well. One thing's for sure, any manager we appoint does well enough to be considered for the Liverpool job after Klopp goes, we are in for a pretty good couple of years. In addition, I would like to think the club would be ready for that eventually, so it does not have a seismic effect on us. The structure around the club is massively better now than when MON walked.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: rougegorge on November 09, 2021, 11:20:09 PM
Good article. Nothing we can do but hope it turns out well. One thing's for sure, any manager we appoint does well enough to be considered for the Liverpool job after Klopp goes, we are in for a pretty good couple of years. In addition, I would like to think the club would be ready for that eventually, so it does not have a seismic effect on us. The structure around the club is massively better now than when MON walked.
I agree. We shouldn’t get too hung up if Gerrard were to become manager and then went to Liverpool as it would mean he will have done a good job for us.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: purpletrousers on November 10, 2021, 12:59:38 AM
Enjoyed the article Dave.  I hope Mr Purslow reads it.

My first thought exactly. But then I guess begrudging yes he’d have to be a success which would be good.

But I can’t get this out if my head.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59037905

The stuff I read about Potter here really stayed with me. Sounds like the real deal to me. Glad it’s not on my head to make the decision, but I know nothing about Stevie G to attract me. Colleagues asking me if if was wrong to sack Dean. Maybe. Just depends on the next move eh.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 10, 2021, 05:54:45 AM
Good article and I think he would be a great appointment.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: algy on November 10, 2021, 06:36:01 AM
I don't think it's the possibility that he might see it as a path to the Liverpool job is particularly the sticking point!

Anyway, if it's Gerrard then so be it. Can't say the appointment particularly fills me with optimism, but I'll give him the same support I would anyone else. Plenty of managers have come before him with unimpressive records and gone on to do something special.

Excellent article, by the way.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Mister E on November 10, 2021, 07:56:55 AM
If he joins, I'm guessing it would be for a period of around 3 years; hopefully not long enough to recreate the issues faced by Ron Sanders' successors. His short-term ambition might work in our favour.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: brian green on November 10, 2021, 08:01:03 AM
Or not
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 10, 2021, 08:10:12 AM
Good article. Particularly like the parts about getting the club and no overhaul needed. This is spot on. We have players such as McGinn and Mings, who might not always play well but have, alongside the greasy one, been the heartbeat of our rise under Smith. Add to that Martinez, Cash, Targett, Luiz, Watkins etc, ‘when’ Gerrard takes over, he needs to quickly realise what he’s got in terms  of players who get the club and as you say Dave just tinker with it…..the fabled DM in January perhaps.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Villan82 on November 10, 2021, 09:20:44 AM
The Greasy one made one of those decisions that must have looked appealing to him at the time but the ripples from it cause damage that cannot ever be undone. Absolute tosser of the highest order.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on November 10, 2021, 09:53:03 AM
Agree with the article...though that doesn't mean my blood's not still angried up.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: darren woolley on November 10, 2021, 11:03:46 AM
Spot in Dave.
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: RichardBatchelor on November 10, 2021, 11:08:08 AM
I seem to be one of the few on here who likes Gerrard (I'll forgive the Phil Collins incident as it appears to be a one-off), but I just don't see him fitting in at Villa. Would prefer that to Martinez though - if you think our defence is playng badly now .....
Title: Re: Avoiding the Gee spot
Post by: postal on November 10, 2021, 12:02:22 PM
If it is Gerrard its a gamble for both.
If he screws up, then that would kick the (supposed) Liverpool job to row Z.
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