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Title: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 10:43:10 AM
Friday 22.10.2021

Emirates Stadium

8pm KO
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 10:43:28 AM
2-0
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on October 21, 2021, 11:20:52 AM
3-1 win -  Watkins will score 2
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on October 21, 2021, 11:42:05 AM
This is a momentous occasion. Elder daughter came with me to VP three times and we failed to score. Exit elder daughter stage left.

Younger daughter, has rejected all attempts and is thirty. But she has hooked up with a lovely lad whose family are all Arsenal (his Dad has a season ticket, he's way down the waiting list so has a Fulham S/T).

This has triggered a MASSIVE change in my daughter, who has become a raving Villa fan, at first worshipping Him but when he ran away love turned to bile. She loves McGinn's backside and all of Ollie. Boyfriend's Dad is giving son his seat for this game and son has wheedled another next to him. So she's going, and if we score she will go absolutely potty (she get this from her Mom, who always insisted we go in the Away section).
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 21, 2021, 11:57:39 AM
This is a tough one to call. Hope we can get Saturday's debacle out of our system but fear that it will continue to make us edgy for some time to come.

Arsenal were lousy against Palace on Monday and were lucky to get a point but I don't know...

2-1 Arsenal.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 21, 2021, 12:04:02 PM
I can't see us beating them for a fourth successive time. Any team in poor form or need a result often just happen to get it vs us and I can see this happening to us on Friday.  3-2 Arsenal with late fuck ups from Villa.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on October 21, 2021, 12:08:57 PM
I think we will win again at Arsenal, 1-3 with a cameo sub appearance from Bailey. Saka picked up an injury in Arsenals last game so hopefully he will miss this one.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 21, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
Arsenal will come out of the traps and press. They will then tire, which might be exacerbated by the short turnaround, and itís at that point we need to hit them hard. Saturdayís collapse makes this pretty important.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on October 21, 2021, 12:28:41 PM
just win this please Villa, there will be a few Tarquins in my local pub watching it....

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on October 21, 2021, 12:30:35 PM
Very difficult to predict what team will turn up and indeed how we will play after last weeks shell shock. Given this, I am playing safe and reverting to law of averages and predict our first league stalemate since August.

1-1
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on October 21, 2021, 12:45:19 PM
Yes, I think this is a 1-1, too.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 21, 2021, 12:48:50 PM
One of the clubs we'll be overtaking this season. 0-2.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 21, 2021, 01:10:49 PM
Smith says both Bailey and Traore in the squad for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on October 21, 2021, 01:16:06 PM
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Targett
Sanson Luiz McGinn
Buendia Ings Bailey

Do not feck around.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 21, 2021, 01:32:35 PM
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Targett
Sanson Luiz McGinn
Buendia Ings Bailey

Do not feck around.

I like the look of that team and formation but can't see Watkins being left out.

Watkins for Bailey with Bailey coming on for the last 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 21, 2021, 01:46:26 PM
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Targett
Sanson Luiz McGinn
Buendia Ings Bailey

Do not feck around.

That would do for me
Last season was a complete masterclass of offensive play
Worried that we are playing in the 3rd kit abomination and that might hinder us
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 01:48:19 PM
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Targett
Sanson Luiz McGinn
Buendia Ings Bailey

Do not feck around.

Watkins instead of Bailey.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 21, 2021, 01:54:23 PM
Bailey, Traore, Davies all back training! I can see 1 out of 3 starting, a different 1 out of 3 finishing and the other 1 out of 3 not making the squad.

Anyway, 2-2 or 1-3

They are unbeaten in 5, so it's not like they need a result!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 21, 2021, 02:02:28 PM
One of the clubs we'll be overtaking this season.

The last time that happened Yorkie scored 23 goals in 48 apps and we won a trophy.

It sounds good, but then reality hits you.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 21, 2021, 02:45:20 PM
Bailey, Traore, Davies all back training! I can see 1 out of 3 starting, a different 1 out of 3 finishing and the other 1 out of 3 not making the squad.

Anyway, 2-2 or 1-3

They are unbeaten in 5, so it's not like they need a result!

I can't see Davis making the squad for the forseeable future. Smith is already going to have a couple of difficult decisions to make. These were the subs for Wolves:

Sanson
Steer
Young
Nakamba
El Ghazi
Hause
Philogene-Bidace
Archer
Ramsey

If Traore and Bailey are fit enough to be included in the squad, then that's two from the above above dropping out, unless he decides he doesn't need both Hause and Tuanzebe in the squad. I can see Philogene-Bidace and Archer being the ones to make way, but then I'd have both in ahead of Davis. Going to have to be a few injuries or suspensions before he gets a look in I reckon.

As for Friday I reckon Smith will stick with the godawful 3-5-2 to start with to keep it tight, before going a bit looser at some point in the second half with a 4-3-3 and Bailey on.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 21, 2021, 02:56:31 PM
Bailey, Traore, Davies all back training! I can see 1 out of 3 starting, a different 1 out of 3 finishing and the other 1 out of 3 not making the squad.

Anyway, 2-2 or 1-3

They are unbeaten in 5, so it's not like they need a result!

I can't see Davis making the squad for the forseeable future. Smith is already going to have a couple of difficult decisions to make. These were the subs for Wolves:

Sanson
Steer
Young
Nakamba
El Ghazi
Hause
Philogene-Bidace
Archer
Ramsey

If Traore and Bailey are fit enough to be included in the squad, then that's two from the above above dropping out, unless he decides he doesn't need both Hause and Tuanzebe in the squad. I can see Philogene-Bidace and Archer being the ones to make way, but then I'd have both in ahead of Davis. Going to have to be a few injuries or suspensions before he gets a look in I reckon.

As for Friday I reckon Smith will stick with the godawful 3-5-2 to start with to keep it tight, before going a bit looser at some point in the second half with a 4-3-3 and Bailey on.
If he does that I fear the outcome.
He needs to ditch the 3 at the back.


Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 21, 2021, 02:58:52 PM
Has Keinan gotten injured in training yet?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 21, 2021, 03:14:29 PM
Bailey, Traore, Davies all back training! I can see 1 out of 3 starting, a different 1 out of 3 finishing and the other 1 out of 3 not making the squad.

Anyway, 2-2 or 1-3

They are unbeaten in 5, so it's not like they need a result!

I can't see Davis making the squad for the forseeable future. Smith is already going to have a couple of difficult decisions to make. These were the subs for Wolves:

Sanson
Steer
Young
Nakamba
El Ghazi
Hause
Philogene-Bidace
Archer
Ramsey

If Traore and Bailey are fit enough to be included in the squad, then that's two from the above above dropping out, unless he decides he doesn't need both Hause and Tuanzebe in the squad. I can see Philogene-Bidace and Archer being the ones to make way, but then I'd have both in ahead of Davis. Going to have to be a few injuries or suspensions before he gets a look in I reckon.

As for Friday I reckon Smith will stick with the godawful 3-5-2 to start with to keep it tight, before going a bit looser at some point in the second half with a 4-3-3 and Bailey on.
If he does that I fear the outcome.
He needs to ditch the 3 at the back.




We've got to ditch the 532 for this one surely? Arsenal aren't great but if they can play through us then we've got problems.

An extra man in midfield would be wise.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 03:21:20 PM
Bailey, Traore, Davies all back training! I can see 1 out of 3 starting, a different 1 out of 3 finishing and the other 1 out of 3 not making the squad.

Anyway, 2-2 or 1-3

They are unbeaten in 5, so it's not like they need a result!

I can't see Davis making the squad for the forseeable future. Smith is already going to have a couple of difficult decisions to make. These were the subs for Wolves:

Sanson
Steer
Young
Nakamba
El Ghazi
Hause
Philogene-Bidace
Archer
Ramsey

If Traore and Bailey are fit enough to be included in the squad, then that's two from the above above dropping out, unless he decides he doesn't need both Hause and Tuanzebe in the squad. I can see Philogene-Bidace and Archer being the ones to make way, but then I'd have both in ahead of Davis. Going to have to be a few injuries or suspensions before he gets a look in I reckon.

As for Friday I reckon Smith will stick with the godawful 3-5-2 to start with to keep it tight, before going a bit looser at some point in the second half with a 4-3-3 and Bailey on.

If he starts with Ings and Watkins I hope Archer would keep his place on the bench. Davies does not deserve a place.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smithy on October 21, 2021, 04:04:17 PM
It doesn't feel like all that long ago that when everyone was fit, the 11 picked itself, and the bench was simply making up the numbers and we all just hoped we didn't need to call on any of them. 

Now we're looking at which promising or established player doesn't even get to make a bench with 7 players on it.  We've come a long way...
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
9.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smithy on October 21, 2021, 04:08:03 PM
9.

Doh - of course, which makes the turnaround even more impressive!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on October 21, 2021, 04:43:36 PM
Hause for Mings.   
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 21, 2021, 04:44:24 PM
Friday 22.10.2021

Emirates Stadium

8pm KO

Thanks Legion !!
My delight when I check in and see the pre match up!

So we are wearing our third kit first time the mens team wearing this season
I quite like the navy thing!
Now the football I hope we make a winning comeback and Watkins especially seems to like playing against these lot

Outside of 30 minutes vs Spurs to me Arsenal haven't overly impressed me this season.
Doing the double last season gives us some confidence knowing can beat them and hope that system is changed from 3 at the back in a nic victory

I'm hopeful if not expectant but if truth be told this could go anyway result wise way have been.
That said would hope Mings steps up for a heroic performance and recall Brentford causing chaos with long throws so perhaps Matty Cash (if not injured) can hurl them in and our players get on the end of it banging in the goals.
Not exactly pure Dean Smith philosophy but will take any sort of goal if results on victory.

Also let is remind them that Emi Martinez is the  best !

Up the Villa !
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 21, 2021, 07:19:51 PM
Hause for Mings.   

Works for me. Won't happen though

Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 21, 2021, 07:31:47 PM
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Targett
Sanson Luiz McGinn
Buendia Ings Bailey

Do not feck around.

Watkins instead of Bailey.

Same here, and only play Sanson if fully fit, otherwise i think i'd have Nakamba in there for this one.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 21, 2021, 07:47:18 PM
Hause for Mings.   

Works for me. Won't happen though

Hopefully Tyrone will revert to belting it in to Row Z if in doubt rather than fannying about with the ball so that he keeps  his place in the England B team.



F**k me, one beer and I've gone hyper-cynical.
I blame Brexit!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 21, 2021, 07:52:14 PM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

Luiz
McGinn
Sanson

Bailey
Ings
Buendia
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 21, 2021, 08:45:04 PM
Bailey, Traore, Davies all back training! I can see 1 out of 3 starting, a different 1 out of 3 finishing and the other 1 out of 3 not making the squad.

Anyway, 2-2 or 1-3

They are unbeaten in 5, so it's not like they need a result!

I can't see Davis making the squad for the forseeable future. Smith is already going to have a couple of difficult decisions to make. These were the subs for Wolves:

Sanson
Steer
Young
Nakamba
El Ghazi
Hause
Philogene-Bidace
Archer
Ramsey

If Traore and Bailey are fit enough to be included in the squad, then that's two from the above above dropping out, unless he decides he doesn't need both Hause and Tuanzebe in the squad. I can see Philogene-Bidace and Archer being the ones to make way, but then I'd have both in ahead of Davis. Going to have to be a few injuries or suspensions before he gets a look in I reckon.

As for Friday I reckon Smith will stick with the godawful 3-5-2 to start with to keep it tight, before going a bit looser at some point in the second half with a 4-3-3 and Bailey on.
If he does that I fear the outcome.
He needs to ditch the 3 at the back.




We've got to ditch the 532 for this one surely? Arsenal aren't great but if they can play through us then we've got problems.

An extra man in midfield would be wise.

Arsenal seem to have switched to a back 4 this season. If we line up with 5 at the back against them, that would be horribly negative. I watched the most of their game v Palace, Arsenal are lightweight and rubbish. Play a midfield three against them and we should dominate. Saka might be injured too.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 21, 2021, 09:15:12 PM
I donít think they are rubbish, they have some quick technical players and can open up teams that are static defensively.
I think they have weaknesses defensively and based on our last 2 performances I am not writing any team off.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on October 21, 2021, 10:52:02 PM
3rd defeat on the spin I feel.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 21, 2021, 10:57:52 PM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

Luiz
McGinn
Sanson

Bailey
Ings
Buendia

Smith has hinted that Bailey and Traore will be in the squad but need to be checked i think theyíll both start on the bench. This team for me other than Watkins for Bailey, with Bailey coming on in the 2nd half.

2-1 Villa (Watkins, Ings)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 21, 2021, 11:03:04 PM
Martinez
Cash Konsa, Mings, Young
Buendia Luiz  McGinn Sanson
Watkins, Ings

3-1
Watkins , McGinn, Mings
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 11:04:58 PM
No. Not Young.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 21, 2021, 11:05:48 PM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 21, 2021, 11:07:01 PM
Targett is a decent player. Young is well past his prime.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 21, 2021, 11:08:11 PM
Targett is a decent player. Young is well past his prime.
Yes defensively MT improved but think he struggled recently
Hause for Mings.

I take a compromise  for Hause at left back if Young isn't given the game instead of Targett
I think  Matthew needs to sit this one out for a break
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on October 21, 2021, 11:12:39 PM
Not sure we'll get anything with the dreaded 5-3-2.
If we're positive from the off with an attacking formation then the win is there for us.
3-1 (Ings 2, Konsa)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 22, 2021, 07:44:22 AM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.

How many own goals has he got out of interest?

No, he's not been as good as last season but Young in a back four is not the answer.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on October 22, 2021, 09:07:53 AM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

Luiz
McGinn
Sanson

Bailey
Ings
Buendia
i like that Ads. Very strong attacking side and back to the 4 at the back that did so well last season. Donít want to make a prediction, but that line up looks very handy.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2021, 09:32:46 AM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.

You seem quite desperate for a new player to moan at now that Grealish has left.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 22, 2021, 09:48:52 AM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.

You seem quite desperate for a new player to moan at now that Grealish has left.

Not really I'm just yet again  pointing out deficiencies of players that people refuse to see, or acknowledge .  Many seem preoccupied with lambasting Mings at the moment

Felt Targett has been unfit , been poor in attacking play as a wing back as failed nunerous times when high up the pitch and has let us down defensively several times yet Mings seems to be someone identified which is more obvious and Targett defects has gone unnoticed unless I flag it up

I think many would agree he has been simpler to Neil Taylor when attempting to attack so nothing unfair there actually Risso Rosco
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 22, 2021, 09:53:55 AM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.

How many own goals has he got out of interest?

No, he's not been as good as last season but Young in a back four is not the answer.
Well for Me like the way he was in the wall caused the late winner for Wolves. Deflecting off him as tepid free kick because be didn't front it.
 Like Sherwood said "he should be ashamed of himself" as he didn't face up to it. Yet everyone harping on about Mings performance.

Thank you clampy for noticing the general poorer season of targett and his deficiencies! I glad I'm not the only one. I don't mind targett and think he's improved from when first arrived

And Young or Hause is an alternative
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 22, 2021, 09:54:59 AM
Can't see Bailey being fit enough to start after the lay off.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 22, 2021, 09:59:32 AM
If Bailey starts then I'll be surprised if he makes an hour
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 22, 2021, 10:09:11 AM
Can't see Bailey being fit enough to start after the lay off.

Agree.  And I don't see Smith starting him
What's fascinating is how he'll configure the team both insitally and when Bailey is on the pitch.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 22, 2021, 10:24:08 AM
Like the last 3 league games this lot are there for the taking so we need to
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2021, 10:38:55 AM

I think many would agree he has been simpler to Neil Taylor when attempting to attack so nothing unfair there actually Risso Rosco

I don't understand what any of that means but he is light years better than Neil Taylor.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 22, 2021, 10:39:02 AM
Going into this batch of games (Wolves, Arsenal, Hammers,  Saints) I was hoping for at least seven points. Given the nature of our capitulation at the weekend I would take a point and a solid defensive display right now.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2021, 10:39:54 AM
Going into this batch of games (Wolves, Arsenal, Hammers,  Saints) I was hoping for at least seven points. Given the nature of our capitulation at the weekend I would take a point and a solid defensive display right now.

I wouldn't. We'be been averaging just over a point a game this calendar year, and that really isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on October 22, 2021, 10:57:44 AM
Hi everyone! Been too pissed off this week after Saturday to come to this site. Hope the Prodigal Sons ask for metaphorical forgiveness, in any shape or form later, even from John McGinn's backside, tonight!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 22, 2021, 11:05:07 AM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.

You seem quite desperate for a new player to moan at now that Grealish has left.

Not really I'm just yet again  pointing out deficiencies of players that people refuse to see, or acknowledge .  Many seem preoccupied with lambasting Mings at the moment

Felt Targett has been unfit , been poor in attacking play as a wing back as failed nunerous times when high up the pitch and has let us down defensively several times yet Mings seems to be someone identified which is more obvious and Targett defects has gone unnoticed unless I flag it up

I think many would agree he has been simpler to Neil Taylor when attempting to attack so nothing unfair there actually Risso Rosco

Who was it that assisted Ollie again at Spurs?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 22, 2021, 11:28:36 AM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

Luiz
McGinn
Sanson

Bailey
Ings
Buendia

Now that does look sexy and more importantly balanced

With Traore to replace Buendia when tiring and Watkins to replace Bailey

Come on Deano - you know it makes sense
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 22, 2021, 12:26:52 PM
Bailey has to play if fit.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 22, 2021, 01:04:10 PM
You all know we'll start with 5 at the back...
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 22, 2021, 01:05:30 PM
We will lose. It will be miserable.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on October 22, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
We will lose. It will be miserable.

This is why the only advantage of Sunday night matches is that they ruin less of your weekend.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 22, 2021, 01:22:45 PM
We will lose. It will be miserable.

This is why the only advantage of Sunday night matches is that they ruin less of your weekend.

Interesting point. I am going to West Ham and am already dreading the compound depression of Sunday night plus Villa defeat for my journey home.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 22, 2021, 01:29:18 PM
No. Not Young.
Not Targett  I can't take his weak attacking displays like Neil Taylor tribute act
Or his own goals.

You seem quite desperate for a new player to moan at now that Grealish has left.

Not really I'm just yet again  pointing out deficiencies of players that people refuse to see, or acknowledge .  Many seem preoccupied with lambasting Mings at the moment

Felt Targett has been unfit , been poor in attacking play as a wing back as failed nunerous times when high up the pitch and has let us down defensively several times yet Mings seems to be someone identified which is more obvious and Targett defects has gone unnoticed unless I flag it up

I think many would agree he has been simpler to Neil Taylor when attempting to attack so nothing unfair there actually Risso Rosco

Targett attacks better when at LB instead of LWB, he was better going forward than Cash last season and is a much better defender. LWB doesn't suit him at all, that's the problem and it won't be fixed by putting Young out there. Now that our genuine wide players are back Smith needs to start using them.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 22, 2021, 01:48:55 PM
This game is a tough one to call. Both Villa and Arsenal are capable of putting in top six performances one week and bottom six performances the next week.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 22, 2021, 02:30:16 PM
You all know we'll start with 5 at the back...
this is my concern.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 22, 2021, 02:32:01 PM
I kind of see what Footy is saying but donít agree entirely. I donít think Targett is in the same form as last season, I donít think the formation particularly suits him as heís too slow if caught out of position, and I donít think he looks as fit as he did last season.

Anyways, itís important that we stop the rot so Iíll be happy with a point this evening. I do worry for DS if we donít pick up any points tonight or against West Ham.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 22, 2021, 02:34:41 PM
Targett is never a wing-back. It's that simple. We need to go back to 433.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 22, 2021, 02:44:48 PM
Targett also hasn't got acres of space to play in that the rat used to create for him.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 22, 2021, 03:15:50 PM
You all know we'll start with 5 at the back...
this is my concern.
Will be beyond gutted if he does
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on October 22, 2021, 04:06:00 PM
I hoping for a win as I do for most games, but I think it be 2 all. Both teams have good spells and shocking ones too.

Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saint13 on October 22, 2021, 04:16:59 PM
Yes this is one of the most unpredictable results of the season. Two teams that can be anything or nothing on their day. Could be 3 0 either way or 2 2.

I a going 3 2 to the Arse given they did not win v Palace and will want to bounce back.

Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 22, 2021, 04:19:31 PM
We will play five at the back, none of our "recovered" players will start, Smith-Rowe will score and celebrate by kissing the badge, and we will lose.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2021, 04:20:46 PM
Targett is never a wing-back. It's that simple. We need to go back to 433.

Targett isnít a wing back, Cash isnít a wing back, the central defenders donít know what theyíre doing in a three and Ings and Watkins canít play together as pairing. Other than that the formation has been a rip-roaring success.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 22, 2021, 04:34:23 PM
Targett is never a wing-back. It's that simple. We need to go back to 433.

Targett isnít a wing back, Cash isnít a wing back, the central defenders donít know what theyíre doing in a three and Ings and Watkins canít play together as pairing. Other than that the formation has been a rip-roaring success.

I would love to rip that summarisation to pieces but sadly I have to agree. Although I still hold out some hope for the Ings and Watkins partnership as they are both quality goalscorers.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 22, 2021, 04:35:57 PM
We will play five at the back, none of our "recovered" players will start, Smith-Rowe will score and celebrate by kissing the badge, and we will lose.

Iíve a feeling weíll lose this.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on October 22, 2021, 04:44:16 PM
Arsenal started well against Palace the other night, then after about 20 minutes Palace took control. Arsenal were shite & are shite. They are there for the taking, it's a question of whether we can take advantage of that or not.

Their defence & the protection they get from the midfield are awful. Pressurise them from the off & we'll be OK.

None of this 5 at the back, please.

FTF

 
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 22, 2021, 04:45:10 PM
We will play five at the back, none of our "recovered" players will start, Smith-Rowe will score and celebrate by kissing the badge, and we will lose.

This is the most Aston Villa thing ever.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 22, 2021, 04:50:41 PM
We will roast 'em.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 22, 2021, 04:58:39 PM
Don't reckon it'll be 3 nil this time, but I'll settle for a 3-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 22, 2021, 05:13:37 PM
Targett is never a wing-back. It's that simple. We need to go back to 433.

Targett isnít a wing back, Cash isnít a wing back, the central defenders donít know what theyíre doing in a three and Ings and Watkins canít play together as pairing. Other than that the formation has been a rip-roaring success.


I'll disagree with you about Cash. He's had two seasons of acquitting himself as a high-energy full back, prior to which he was an actual winger. He's made for the role.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on October 22, 2021, 05:30:51 PM
Targett is definetely not a wing back.  Cash is much more in that mould.  Funnily enough I got epic amounts of grief last season for saying this exact point..! Cash always looks to me like a yellow card waiting to happen when he slides.  I'm hoping for some evidence of the classic bouncebackability tonight.  Hoping to see Tarore, but would be relieved to have Bailey rested, I am convinced his current quad injury was caused by not enough build up from his hamstring injury.  He seems to have only one pace to play at...flat F'in out! 
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 22, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
someone's getting a twatting tonight
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 23, 2021, 02:06:31 PM
We will play five at the back, none of our "recovered" players will start, Smith-Rowe will score and celebrate by kissing the badge, and we will lose.

This is the most Aston Villa thing ever.

And so it came to pass.
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