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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: London Villan on October 16, 2021, 07:31:16 PM
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Did anyone get caught up in the fun and games after the match in Aston Park?
A gang of local kids were firing fireworks randomly into the fans walking down Trinity Road. They were then chased into the park by Villa fans, but then chased the Villa fans back down towards the road waving knives and machetes.
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Some of the locals dont like match day
Perhaps they didn't notice the massive football stadium when they moved in.
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When we were driving back yesterday there were four or five ambulances with their blues and twos on going toward the ground.
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this story and Aston doesn't surprise me
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It’s good but it’s no African Car Reverser.
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It’s good but it’s no African Car Reverser.
Youth firework launcher. The solo difficult stuff of ACR
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Did anyone get caught up in the fun and games after the match in Aston Park?
A gang of local kids were firing fireworks randomly into the fans walking down Trinity Road. They were then chased into the park by Villa fans, but then chased the Villa fans back down towards the road waving knives and machetes.
I never heard this sounds very dangerous
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Did anyone get caught up in the fun and games after the match in Aston Park?
A gang of local kids were firing fireworks randomly into the fans walking down Trinity Road. They were then chased into the park by Villa fans, but then chased the Villa fans back down towards the road waving knives and machetes.
Yes TC and I were waiting on the Trinity Road for a black cab and saw the fireworks. As an aside, we had to wait an hour for a cab. I thought we'd never get home!
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Always see a few fans heading up towards Aston Park after evening games and always think it's a bit risky.
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Cowardly feral rats firing them at families with kids.
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I do hate the area around the ground, to be honest. I spent about three years signing on at Aston jobcentre, so had enough of the local scumbags to last a lifetime.
Not that everyone in the jobcentre or everyone in Aston is a scumbag, of course, it just has more than its fair share.
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I do hate the area around the ground, to be honest. I spent about three years signing on at Aston jobcentre, so had enough of the local scumbags to last a lifetime.
Not that everyone in the jobcentre or everyone in Aston is a scumbag, of course, it just has more than its fair share.
Poverty breeds problems though hey.
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Not wishing to disbelieve you, but did you see the knife incident? It's strange that something so potentially serious hasn't been in the news.
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Yep saw the knives, about a 2ft long machete and another longish blade. As did the 20-30 Villa fans who were running away from it all. I also dialled 999, before you ask, to be told they had received a number of reports.
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Yep saw the knives, about a 2ft long machete and another longish blade. As did the 20-30 Villa fans who were running away from it all. I also dialled 999, before you ask, to be told they had received a number of reports.
Thanks for that. It sounds a very nasty episode and you must have been shook up by it. Hopefully the police will be able to catch the culprits.
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Pretty surreal to be honest. Seeing someone running around aston park with a machete is bonkers.
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My son was caught up in it.He said about 20 balaclava clad lads came running at Villa fans who then ran at them and threw a parking bollard thing .Then my son saw a machete produced and fans backtracked.
To add to this I have heard of similar dressed group running towards Trinity Road from Aston Hall pre season and police cars involved.
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What a terrible thing to do whey do these feral youths do such bad things.
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Be interesting to know what makes them want to do this?
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My 11 year old has a season ticket and I took my 3 year old daughter to the Everton game, stories like this make me really think hard about taking them both again any time soon.
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My 11 year old has a season ticket and I took my 3 year old daughter to the Everton game, stories like this make me really think hard about taking them both again any time soon.
Yep, and thinking again about where to park the car.
I'd always liked a stroll through the park and my son likes to play football for a bit and stretch his legs after sitting in the car and then after the match when he'd been sat around again.
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My son was caught up in it.He said about 20 balaclava clad lads came running at Villa fans who then ran at them and threw a parking bollard thing .Then my son saw a machete produced and fans backtracked.
To add to this I have heard of similar dressed group running towards Trinity Road from Aston Hall pre season and police cars involved.
What were the police doing while all of this was happening? Producing a machete is pretty bloody serious, and you'd think could lead to armed police being sent there.
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I'm guessing the focus for the police would have been on the other side of the ground. Not very often you see them on outside the Trinity post-match.
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We walk to the other side of the ground and the Police presence there was massive all the way to Witton station, you'd imagine that almost all of the resource deployed were in that potential trouble spot.
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My son was caught up in it.He said about 20 balaclava clad lads came running at Villa fans who then ran at them and threw a parking bollard thing .Then my son saw a machete produced and fans backtracked.
To add to this I have heard of similar dressed group running towards Trinity Road from Aston Hall pre season and police cars involved.
What were the police doing while all of this was happening? Producing a machete is pretty bloody serious, and you'd think could lead to armed police being sent there.
A police van appeared pretty quickly and went down Trinity Road after them. The chaps who close the roads called them.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
You are easily the saddest person on the planet. Have you really got nothing better to do with your time?
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
You are easily the saddest person on the planet. Have you really got nothing better to do with your time?
Well I'm glad you got the gist of it Risso as I havent got a fuckin clue what it's supposed to mean.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
You are easily the saddest person on the planet. Have you really got nothing better to do with your time?
Well I'm glad you got the gist of it Risso as I havent got a fuckin clue what it's supposed to mean.
Me neither, those words just jumbled up and went clean over my head.
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I’m more offended he thinks we’re all communists. Then again he’s so far right he probably sees Risso and Ads as Social Democrats.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
This makes no sense whatsoever. You really are a grade one bellend.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
You are easily the saddest person on the planet. Have you really got nothing better to do with your time?
Well said, Comrade!
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I wondered what was going on- have to say that in the 55 years of going to Villa Park I have seen 'trouble' on less than half a dozen occasions. Of those, 3 have been minor incidents regarding the low life from the other side of the A38. I have had the car broken into once, and have never felt my personal safety was in jeopardy. If what happened on Saturday is the start of a trend then it will be a great pity as I have always felt comfortable and not at risk even when walking through the park.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
Oh well. At least you’ve got an(other) identity.
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I wondered what was going on- have to say that in the 55 years of going to Villa Park I have seen 'trouble' on less than half a dozen occasions. Of those, 3 have been minor incidents regarding the low life from the other side of the A38. I have had the car broken into once, and have never felt my personal safety was in jeopardy. If what happened on Saturday is the start of a trend then it will be a great pity as I have always felt comfortable and not at risk even when walking through the park.
You would hope that the police will be on alert for the next few weeks for similar incidents.
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I do have to say...Rinder Freddy...what a fuckin name for a band. Bet oasis , blur and all the rest wish they had come across you years ago. No we are fuckin biffy clyde...nope we are fuckin Rinder freddy.
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I do have to say...Rinder Freddy...what a fuckin name for a band. Bet oasis , blur and all the rest wish they had come across you years ago. No we are fuckin biffy clyde...nope we are fuckin Rinder freddy.
Tinder Freddy conjures up some sad masturbating lowlife Freddy Kruger. I had no idea what tinder boy or rinder whatever was saying other than confirming he/she/they/it should learn to use brain cells simultaneously rather than one at a time. The jolly rancher
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After the brawl and machete incident at Star City just before lockdown last year, none of this surprises me sadly.
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
You are easily the saddest person on the planet. Have you really got nothing better to do with your time?
The Internet is a medium that affords anonymity to almost any of the billions of people using it. You can be anyone, and no one will have a clue. So it really does take a special kind of bellend to go to the trouble of setting up a new identity, only to then use it to inadvertently identify themselves with a single inarticulate post.
How do these people get through the day in the real world?
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Not wishing to disbelieve you, but did you see the knife incident? It's strange that something so potentially serious hasn't been in the news.
I think its more a commentary on Society than the validity of the report that incidents like this are no longer regarded as newsworthy.
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Remembering African Car Reverser with fondness.
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I saw a programme on the regional bbc network a few years ago, cant remember exactly what it was about, but it had a ‘local community leader’ from Aston, and he was talking about how in this day and age the only time they see white people in the area is on match days. It just made me think at the time, as a lad who grew up and lived in Hockley down the road till my mid twenties, this was absolutely true of myself as a middle aged and now i hate to admit probably verging on middle class man given the 15 years ive lived in Sutton.
None of this is directly related to a gang chasing people with knives or machetes. But i would guess that most of us only see Aston on match days and have no idea of the day to day reality of living in one of the poorest parts of the country and how that makes it rife for gang culture to grow and develop. We are all, including myself a bit oblivious to the realities of that life as we wander around on match days
This is not to excuse any of this, i used to always walk through the park to get the No 8 to and from the games, now i generally walk to Aston station with my kids. I would of been scared shitless for them if id witnessed that on Saturday. And i too just hope the police are wary of it on future match days.
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let's hope someone who witnessed this has notified the club and the police force.
I think a Police Presence in that park , especially in the winter months would reassure fans. i'd prefer them to be keeping an eye on people carrying machetes than a few drunks in stone island giving it the fingers to each other .
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I reported it to the club, and they are aware of the incident.
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I reported it to the club, and they are aware of the incident.
Good for you mate. Let's hope they can liaise with the police and get the situation under control before it escalates.
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Saw the firework throwing but not any knives
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So why while 42, 000 people are applauded taking the knee, and are encouraged to celebrate history months, outside villa park the local mirpurs are attacking football fans.
You 4 eyed geek apologise in your communist rag about your 'come to villa park again ' comments he thinks all brown people are Manu fans. I know punjabi people.
Well looky here, it's the fascist Brick Tamland.
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Did anyone get caught up in the fun and games after the match in Aston Park?
A gang of local kids were firing fireworks randomly into the fans walking down Trinity Road. They were then chased into the park by Villa fans, but then chased the Villa fans back down towards the road waving knives and machetes.
How do we know that it was a gang of local kids?
And 'kids'? - were they all under 16, do you think?
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I assumed local, they could have of course come from anywhere. But hanging around a park, nowhere near public transport chances are they are local.
Age wise, judging by their size, clothes, tracksuits, hoodies, puffer jackets, and those little handbags, they looked like teenagers.
But of course you may know different?
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Anyone under 30 is a kid to me these days!
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I assumed local, they could have of course come from anywhere. But hanging around a park, nowhere near public transport chances are they are local.
Age wise, judging by their size, clothes, tracksuits, hoodies, puffer jackets, and those little handbags, they looked like teenagers.
But of course you may know different?
No, I know no different, LV: I was simply intrigued as to whom it might have been.
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I assumed local, they could have of course come from anywhere. But hanging around a park, nowhere near public transport chances are they are local.
Age wise, judging by their size, clothes, tracksuits, hoodies, puffer jackets, and those little handbags, they looked like teenagers.
But of course you may know different?
No, I know no different, LV: I was simply intrigued as to whom it might have been.
I live in the area and I can tell you that kids get attacked all the time for being in the wrong postcode area. I'd put money on them being from B6.
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I used to always park at King Edward school until fairly recently and wouldn't think twice about walking across Aston Park day or night, might do now though!
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Why aren't people on here calling the youths scum ? That's what people on here do when some posts a racist comment on social media.
This was a racist attack on Villa fans.
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Bore off you tedious cock.
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Jesus. Did someone leave the bins out as the trolls are rummaging good and proper.
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Why aren't people on here calling the youths scum ? That's what people on here do when some posts a racist comment on social media.
This was a racist attack on Villa fans.
And how do you know it's a racist attack?
What is your beef? Have you nothing better to do? Could you not email someone to air your views without resorting to this?
Please?
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Age wise, judging by their size, clothes, tracksuits, hoodies, puffer jackets, and those little handbags, they looked like teenagers.
When I was at school (not that long ago, relatively speaking) I would've had my head kicked in for wearing one of those handbags. Now the thugs are wearing them.
The Times They Are a-Changin'.
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Does make you wonder, though. Many a time I've stayed in the Holte Suite/Social or even corporate for a few beers before making my way to Aston Station for the train into town. I've never once thought that I could be a target for trouble...until now
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I used to always park at King Edward school until fairly recently and wouldn't think twice about walking across Aston Park day or night, might do now though!
Me too - Have you heard anything regarding reopening?
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
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I'm assuming Rinder and Alaap are the same account creator and someone who has also posted on here before?
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Was it a pre-booked taxi who didn't turn up? What is the possibility of waiting in the stand areas as most alert of arrivals on Apps / SMS messages?
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Was it a pre-booked taxi who didn't turn up? What is the possibility of waiting in the stand areas as most alert of arrivals on Apps / SMS messages?
Or maybe the Trinity Road reception area. You'd like to think that security would still be on the door there for the corporates who'd still be inside.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
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I'm assuming Rinder and Alaap are the same account creator and someone who has also posted on here before?
Yes.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
I can't think of many Premier League grounds that are worse to get away from than Villa Park to be honest.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
I can't think of many Premier League grounds that are worse to get away from than Villa Park to be honest.
Christ! You've not been to the new Spurs stadium then!
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I was hoping that Fireworks and Knives was the latest offering from African Car Reverser, giving the Guy Fawkes nod to the Junior Murvin Classic only to find its the home of Grindr Freddy and the Dreamers.*
*one for the teenagers
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
I can't think of many Premier League grounds that are worse to get away from than Villa Park to be honest.
Christ! You've not been to the new Spurs stadium then!
I have, and it's one of few that could counter Risso's claim.
I drove up to Old Trafford the other week, with 75,0000 there and we were away in no time. Saturday was horrendous, I ended up going to Saltley gate and up the Washwood Heath Rd, took about 40 minutes just to get to Ward End Park.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
I can't think of many Premier League grounds that are worse to get away from than Villa Park to be honest.
I've never fully understood why they stopped the one-way system they implemented after games. You could get away pretty swiftly, nowadays it's just a nightmare.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
I can't think of many Premier League grounds that are worse to get away from than Villa Park to be honest.
Christ! You've not been to the new Spurs stadium then!
I have, our first game back. I wouldn't say it's worse than Villa, as they've specifically designed it not for car drivers. A 10/15 minute walk to the tube station and you're on the excellent London Underground, which is about the same amount as time as getting to Aston/Witton stations, which are horrendous. Driving away from Villa Park is one of the most frustrating activities you can take part in, almost as bad as watching the team itself! ;)
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Spurs is fine for public transport. A tube station and 2 much closer overground stations all carrying fans back into central London. I think even Palace is easier to get away from after the game than Villa Park. On public transport, at least
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Worst experience was Stamford Bridge, years ago when it was a corrugated heap of s**t. All my own fault as I drove there from where I was living at the time in Barnet and completely forgot after the game where I had parked the damned thing. Three hours of trudging all around Chelsea and Fulham, being mugged on one of the bridges across the Thames, eventually found it with a parking ticket on it. I was so depressed (although we won, Ray Houghton scored and I met Wolfie for the first time), I took myself off to the nearest boozer and with marvellous serendipity the juke box was hammering out Elvis Costello's most appropriate song.
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Remembering African Car Reverser with fondness.
loved their Peel Session.
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15 to 20 minute walk to stop near The Bartons, never more than a 10 minute wait for a buzz to town, in my experience. Pretty easy... though maybe not so much for older or less mobile supporters.
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Spurs is fine for public transport. A tube station and 2 much closer overground stations all carrying fans back into central London. I think even Palace is easier to get away from after the game than Villa Park. On public transport, at least
Public transport being the key. London is good, so is Manchester. Unless you miss the end of the game to make sure of getting the first train off Witton, Villa Park is dreadful.
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I find most London clubs easy to get to and from, even if like Spurs it takes a combination of a few tubes to do so. I drive to most games home and away (other than London). Liverpool and Everton suffer from the same problems as Villa, in that the grounds are in old residential areas with lots of narrow streets between terraces, not designed for that much traffic. Man U is easy to get away from, being on the edge of an inudsutrial estate with quite a few dual carriageways. Leicester is really shit as well though to be fair, despite it being a new stadium. I was sat in traffic for a good 90 minutes after the game just before the pandemic shut down.
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Spurs is fine for public transport. A tube station and 2 much closer overground stations all carrying fans back into central London. I think even Palace is easier to get away from after the game than Villa Park. On public transport, at least
Public transport being the key. London is good, so is Manchester. Unless you miss the end of the game to make sure of getting the first train off Witton, Villa Park is dreadful.
Miss the first train from witton and in bad weather it sorely tests you.Nothing worse than when you think you will be on the first train and they stop you with about 20 in front of you and say that's enough. Then they lie and say another train will be here shortly. Yeah right.
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Not premier-league, but the Stadium of Shite is a bitch to get away from by car.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Was it a pre-booked taxi who didn't turn up? What is the possibility of waiting in the stand areas as most alert of arrivals on Apps / SMS messages?
No, TOA were reluctant to send us one because of the volume of traffic after the match. They recommended we just hailed one when they started coming through. We have to wait for a wheelchair accessible cab so can't just use any minicab company.
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Spurs is fine for public transport. A tube station and 2 much closer overground stations all carrying fans back into central London. I think even Palace is easier to get away from after the game than Villa Park. On public transport, at least
Public transport being the key. London is good, so is Manchester. Unless you miss the end of the game to make sure of getting the first train off Witton, Villa Park is dreadful.
Which is not the fault of the club. Public transport needs for the city of Birmingham have been criminally neglected for decades in favour of both the capital and Manchester.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Was it a pre-booked taxi who didn't turn up? What is the possibility of waiting in the stand areas as most alert of arrivals on Apps / SMS messages?
Or maybe the Trinity Road reception area. You'd like to think that security would still be on the door there for the corporates who'd still be inside.
Yes I think we'll do that next time.
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I felt quite vulnerable on Saturday waiting an hour for a taxi with TC in her wheelchair
Which should clearly not be the case SOTC.
The environment around Villa Park just on a purely logistic basis is, on reflection, a nightmare. The Trinity Road gets so busy and gridlocked at full time because of taxi's and pavements not being wide enough to cope with the volume of human traffic. The Ground is in the middle of a sizeable residential area with limited car parking ( even for the residents), and although the Motorway system is close it is a perilous 'shut your eyes and go for it' exercise to get onto the A38 off the slip road.
I believe a 'loop' system for buses and taxis could be built and 'safe zones' policed and CCTV'd could be made available for vulnerable supporters without too much expense or inconvenience. Potentially coincide this work with the redevelopment of the North Stand.
In the meantime SOTC if ever feeling the same as you did on Saturday then a request for company I doubt would be ignored, I still maintain that the majority of people ( and especially Villa supporters) have good hearts and have a willingness to help.
You're quite right. Generally people are very helpful when we're out and about. I think next time we'll wait by the McGregor statue.
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Saw the firework throwing but not any knives
Yep same here. Took (very) little AV to the smaller of the two playgrounds off Trinity Road and we were uncomfortably close to firework throwing going on in the park. Decided to take her away and get across the park back to the car, much to her complaint.
I do think a bit of Police presence over that side would have helped, think I might contact the club too, thanks those that did. I’d hoped it was just lads (ridiculously dangerously) mucking about but imagine this was before they moved off towards fans. Glad we weren’t close enough to see any knives.
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Fireworks can be very dangerous,
We should get John Gidman to do a public information clip about it and project it onto the side of the Holte End after matches.
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Fireworks can be very dangerous,
We should get John Gidman to do a public information clip about it and project it onto the side of the Holte End after matches.
Just need Steve Bunce to tell them to 'Put It Out, Right Out!'
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Spurs is fine for public transport. A tube station and 2 much closer overground stations all carrying fans back into central London. I think even Palace is easier to get away from after the game than Villa Park. On public transport, at least
Public transport being the key. London is good, so is Manchester. Unless you miss the end of the game to make sure of getting the first train off Witton, Villa Park is dreadful.
Which is not the fault of the club. Public transport needs for the city of Birmingham have been criminally neglected for decades in favour of both the capital and Manchester.
Absolutely it is, or rather isn't. The club have been trying to get something done for years but the rail & bus companies aren't interested.
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I was hoping that Fireworks and Knives was the latest offering from African Car Reverser, giving the Guy Fawkes nod to the Junior Murvin Classic only to find its the home of Grindr Freddy and the Dreamers.*
*one for the teenagers
(https://i.ibb.co/gRtbBKy/FAE0-C668-A4-F1-48-B8-BE0-C-F10369150529.png) (https://ibb.co/gRtbBKy)
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Ha ha, ace!
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Now that is brilliant
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I've mentioned this before, but a limited edition H&V African Car Reverser t shirt would sell like hot cakes.
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Now I want an African Car Reverser T-shirt, and a hot cake. ☹
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Many years (20+) I used to live on the isle of dogs. Used to hate getting off the DLR at Mudchute on the way home on the lead up to bonfire night. All kids would hide in the bushes next to the platform and launch rockets and all sorts at the people getting off the train walking along the platform. I used to get off at Crossharbour one stop earlier and walk the extra 500m or so. A lot safer! Little bastards!
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I was hoping that Fireworks and Knives was the latest offering from African Car Reverser, giving the Guy Fawkes nod to the Junior Murvin Classic only to find its the home of Grindr Freddy and the Dreamers.*
*one for the teenagers
(https://i.ibb.co/gRtbBKy/FAE0-C668-A4-F1-48-B8-BE0-C-F10369150529.png) (https://ibb.co/gRtbBKy)
Pah! Not even the 12" Lee Perry mix.
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Many years (20+) I used to live on the isle of dogs. Used to hate getting off the DLR at Mudchute on the way home on the lead up to bonfire night. All kids would hide in the bushes next to the platform and launch rockets and all sorts at the people getting off the train walking along the platform. I used to get off at Crossharbour one stop earlier and walk the extra 500m or so. A lot safer! Little bastards!
Anywhere around Merseyside is a no go area on Mischief Night (30 Oct), when all the feral scumbag kids go on the rampage, damaging cars and launching fireworks at anybody unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity. They were launching at them at planes taking off from the airport one year. When I lived on the edge of Skelmersdale it was a night to hide your car and stay in with the curtains shut.
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Many years (20+) I used to live on the isle of dogs. Used to hate getting off the DLR at Mudchute on the way home on the lead up to bonfire night. All kids would hide in the bushes next to the platform and launch rockets and all sorts at the people getting off the train walking along the platform. I used to get off at Crossharbour one stop earlier and walk the extra 500m or so. A lot safer! Little bastards!
Anywhere around Merseyside is a no go area on Mischief Night (30 Oct), when all the feral scumbag kids go on the rampage, damaging cars and launching fireworks at anybody unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity. They were launching at them at planes taking off from the airport one year. When I lived on the edge of Skelmersdale it was a night to hide your car and stay in with the curtains shut.
It was 4th November near me. But then we're sensible on t'other side of t'Pennines.
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https://twitter.com/dronesWMP/status/1450176032779251713?t=dSj2b_bw0DVgpEGqVnNMeA&s=19
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I was hoping that Fireworks and Knives was the latest offering from African Car Reverser, giving the Guy Fawkes nod to the Junior Murvin Classic only to find its the home of Grindr Freddy and the Dreamers.*
*one for the teenagers
(https://i.ibb.co/gRtbBKy/FAE0-C668-A4-F1-48-B8-BE0-C-F10369150529.png) (https://ibb.co/gRtbBKy)
Pah! Not even the 12" Lee Perry mix.
Is that the one with the classic B-side……”I know Punjabis” ?
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https://twitter.com/OSU_WMP/status/1454882463008927746?t=EZKyOwrscq6599hbG04QFw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/OSU_WMP/status/1454882463008927746?t=EZKyOwrscq6599hbG04QFw&s=19
It's not as if they could use the "we're celebrating Villa's result" excuse.