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Title: Utd away
Post by: sonyhill on September 20, 2021, 11:20:58 AM
Fingers crossed none of those who had to come off with injuries on Saturday will be out at the weekend.  None of them went straight down the tunnel so hoping none of them were serious.  At full strength I can see us giving Utd a game!
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 20, 2021, 12:40:20 PM
We've already beaten them 2-0, mate.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 20, 2021, 12:52:53 PM
They were unlucky to lose to the Plastics yesterday. Not sure what Moyes was thinking bringing Noble off the bench to take a last minute pen.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 20, 2021, 01:06:39 PM
They were unlucky to lose to the Plastics yesterday. Not sure what Moyes was thinking bringing Noble off the bench to take a last minute pen.

It's the "Southgate" Approach To Scoring Penalties.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 20, 2021, 01:10:53 PM
Would we have done the same with El Ghazi?

Just like with Noble - their records speak for themselves but surely you would need to have a "feel" of the game rather than it be first touch

I am glad that the ref did not fall for Plastic heads histrionics (even though at least one of them were def pens) - i fear at Mold trafford the results might be different
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 20, 2021, 01:21:08 PM
I don't think Jedinak touched the ball before smashing home his penalty against Albion in the playoff semi.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 20, 2021, 01:22:05 PM
I don't think Jedinak touched the ball before smashing home his penalty against Albion in the playoff semi.

Wrong thread CD?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 20, 2021, 01:24:31 PM
It was a reference to the Mark Noble coming off the bench to miss a penalty debate above.

Though there isn't really any point of this thread as we already have a pre-match one.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 20, 2021, 01:27:17 PM
I think the only point of this thread is to speculate who is meant by "Utd". I didn't think we'd drawn Oxford in the cup?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 20, 2021, 01:29:19 PM
The United game on Saturday must leave them all wondering when they'll get their first win. One place above relegation with 3 points from 5 games has certainly quietened down their fans. United relegated?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Risso on September 20, 2021, 01:29:37 PM
It was a reference to the Mark Noble coming off the bench to miss a penalty debate above.

Though there isn't really any point of this thread as we already have a pre-match one.

I think it's been put on ice/deleted until after the midweek game.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 20, 2021, 01:50:04 PM
Billy the fish is the big threat for them I think.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Demitri_C on September 20, 2021, 01:57:38 PM
Man i hope we smash united this year
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: LeeB on September 20, 2021, 01:58:21 PM
Billy the fish is the big threat for them I think.

Johnny X is the one to keep an eye on.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: UK Redsox on September 20, 2021, 02:14:16 PM
A - Who are "Utd" ?

B - It's only Monday
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 20, 2021, 02:16:35 PM
A - Who are "Utd" ?

B - It's only Monday


A = Biscuit from the 1980s

Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: LeeB on September 20, 2021, 02:23:12 PM
A - Who are "Utd" ?

B - It's only Monday


A = Biscuit from the 1980s



They were good as well.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: olaftab on September 20, 2021, 02:55:50 PM
Can we please identify this thread correctly. There are 4 teams in the League called United. So who are we talking about?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Risso on September 20, 2021, 03:07:22 PM
Can we please identify this thread correctly. There are 4 teams in the League called United. So who are we talking about?

The United with the Manchester prefix are our next opponents, and also are the only team who routinely call themselves that, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I think he's talking about Manchester United.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: London Villan on September 20, 2021, 03:09:00 PM
I think our away support is definitely united away, galvanised by a common cause to beat whoever we are playing. UTV.

Is that what they meant? 
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 20, 2021, 03:28:18 PM
Can we please identify this thread correctly. There are 4 teams in the League called United. So who are we talking about?

The United with the Manchester prefix are our next opponents, and also are the only team who routinely call themselves that, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I think he's talking about Manchester United.

Still, though, I'd prefer not to refer to them by their brand name. It's only a short step away from saying "The Theatre of Dreams". Man United or Man U, if you must. Anything else is insulting to the other teams who have that nickname, many of whom chose said moniker while the Stretford lot were still called Newton Heath and disguising themselves as Norwich.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 20, 2021, 03:33:50 PM
Can we please identify this thread correctly. There are 4 teams in the League called United. So who are we talking about?

The United with the Manchester prefix are our next opponents, and also are the only team who routinely call themselves that, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I think he's talking about Manchester United.

Still, though, I'd prefer not to refer to them by their brand name. It's only a short step away from saying "The Theatre of Dreams". Man United or Man U, if you must. Anything else is insulting to the other teams who have that nickname, many of whom chose said moniker while the Stretford lot were still called Newton Heath and disguising themselves as Norwich.

Exactly, like referring to the prime minister by his first name. He's not your mate.
Title: Re: Man Utd away
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 20, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
Can we please identify this thread correctly. There are 4 teams in the League called United. So who are we talking about?

The United with the Manchester prefix are our next opponents, and also are the only team who routinely call themselves that, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I think he's talking about Manchester United.

Still, though, I'd prefer not to refer to them by their brand name. It's only a short step away from saying "The Theatre of Dreams". Man United or Man U, if you must. Anything else is insulting to the other teams who have that nickname, many of whom chose said moniker while the Stretford lot were still called Newton Heath and disguising themselves as Norwich.

It's bad enough their plastic fans and all the media now referring to them as just United like there's no other United in football. Man City fans now think they're the only City too. It didn't take them long to turn into what they despised about their neighbours.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 20, 2021, 03:43:45 PM
Can we please identify this thread correctly. There are 4 teams in the League called United. So who are we talking about?

The United with the Manchester prefix are our next opponents, and also are the only team who routinely call themselves that, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I think he's talking about Manchester United.

And, as the pope queried, who the fuck are Man United?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Risso on September 20, 2021, 03:58:28 PM

It's bad enough their plastic fans and all the media now referring to them as just United like there's no other United in football. Man City fans now think they're the only City too. It didn't take them long to turn into what they despised about their neighbours.

I think it's because they're two big clubs in the same city, both with the place name too, so they get called United or City for ease of differentiation. You don't need to do that with the likes of Newcastle and Leeds for United, or Norwich and Leicester for city because they're all one club cities. People don't seem to get so righteous when people refer to the bitters as 'Albion' despite there being Brighton and Burton with that in their names as well.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: CT on September 20, 2021, 04:26:01 PM
Colchester United?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: dekko on September 20, 2021, 04:34:33 PM
United

The Mighty Reds...

Of Redditch!
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: lovejoy on September 20, 2021, 04:40:32 PM
Hold on Pelsall Villa, I think we need to clarify who we mean by "the Villa".
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Drummond on September 20, 2021, 04:44:46 PM

It's bad enough their plastic fans and all the media now referring to them as just United like there's no other United in football. Man City fans now think they're the only City too. It didn't take them long to turn into what they despised about their neighbours.

I think it's because they're two big clubs in the same city, both with the place name too, so they get called United or City for ease of differentiation. You don't need to do that with the likes of Newcastle and Leeds for United, or Norwich and Leicester for city because they're all one club cities. People don't seem to get so righteous when people refer to the bitters as 'Albion' despite there being Brighton and Burton with that in their names as well.

There was an all-United clash last season between the Manchester and Sheffield variety and the pitchside person for TV asked a Sheffield Player his thoughts on 'the United chance' that he'd cleared. The player concerned didn't even think to question it. Arseholes.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 20, 2021, 04:46:07 PM

It's bad enough their plastic fans and all the media now referring to them as just United like there's no other United in football. Man City fans now think they're the only City too. It didn't take them long to turn into what they despised about their neighbours.

I think it's because they're two big clubs in the same city, both with the place name too, so they get called United or City for ease of differentiation. You don't need to do that with the likes of Newcastle and Leeds for United, or Norwich and Leicester for city because they're all one club cities. People don't seem to get so righteous when people refer to the bitters as 'Albion' despite there being Brighton and Burton with that in their names as well.

Around here, no. Likewise in Manchester I've no problem with people using just the nickname. If I was outside the West Midlands and felt the need to talk about Albion or Blues, I would clarify which team I was on about. Referring to Man U as "United" is the sort of fanboy behaviour I expect from the media.

Plus, your thread was better.☹
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Bobby Boy on September 20, 2021, 05:17:25 PM
Mike 'Look at me!' Dean is ref for Saturday. There's no way that he's going to miss the opportunity to have a say in this game.

Either Ronaldo will 'win' a hat-trick of penalties or he'll be sent off.

Either way I doubt that Mike will not be one of the talking points after the game.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 20, 2021, 05:31:48 PM

It's bad enough their plastic fans and all the media now referring to them as just United like there's no other United in football. Man City fans now think they're the only City too. It didn't take them long to turn into what they despised about their neighbours.

I think it's because they're two big clubs in the same city, both with the place name too, so they get called United or City for ease of differentiation. You don't need to do that with the likes of Newcastle and Leeds for United, or Norwich and Leicester for city because they're all one club cities. People don't seem to get so righteous when people refer to the bitters as 'Albion' despite there being Brighton and Burton with that in their names as well.

I accept that but it does make you wonder how they survived all these years being call Man Utd. It's a recent thing and it really boils my piss. We all know their fans are at best gloryhunting twats so it's no surprise but when you hear it on MOTD or in the press, you just know they're kissing arse to the Plastics. Give it a year or two and they'll be listed in the league table as United and City.

If Chelsea suddenly start being referred to as the 'Blues' in every article and TV reference I'd smile at little but feel sorry the likes of Everton. Each to their own I guess.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Risso on September 20, 2021, 05:36:45 PM

It's bad enough their plastic fans and all the media now referring to them as just United like there's no other United in football. Man City fans now think they're the only City too. It didn't take them long to turn into what they despised about their neighbours.

I think it's because they're two big clubs in the same city, both with the place name too, so they get called United or City for ease of differentiation. You don't need to do that with the likes of Newcastle and Leeds for United, or Norwich and Leicester for city because they're all one club cities. People don't seem to get so righteous when people refer to the bitters as 'Albion' despite there being Brighton and Burton with that in their names as well.

I accept that but it does make you wonder how they survived all these years being call Man Utd. It's a recent thing and it really boils my piss. We all know their fans are at best gloryhunting twats so it's no surprise but when you hear it on MOTD or in the press, you just know they're kissing arse to the Plastics. Give it a year or two and they'll be listed in the league table as United and City.

If Chelsea suddenly start being referred to as the 'Blues' in every article and TV reference I'd smile at little but feel sorry the likes of Everton. Each to their own I guess.

I agree with the general sentiment but if it's a match we're actually playing against them, I'd probably shorten it to United in the same way I would Villa, Albion, City or whatever.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Flamingo Lane on September 20, 2021, 05:40:01 PM
My dad used to almost explode, every time he heard someone refer to them as Man U.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 20, 2021, 06:20:29 PM
As a sometimes Man U user, what is deemed wrong with it? I'd never call them United. I might refer to them as Yanited, bit like Citeh
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 20, 2021, 07:09:43 PM
Its generally been man u for me.
Tye two big clubs in one city explanation is true i guess, but getting far too close to the inter and milan thing. Surely we dont want to approving of that kind of comparison. Man U, Man city tyat it for me.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 20, 2021, 09:24:52 PM
A - Who are "Utd" ?

B - It's only Monday

A = Biscuit from the 1980s

Colchester United?

Correct, the clue was in the packaging.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: olaftab on September 20, 2021, 09:28:47 PM
Hold on Pelsall Villa, I think we need to clarify who we mean by "the Villa".
Not the same.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: JD on September 21, 2021, 05:54:01 AM
It always been Manure for me.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: steamer on September 21, 2021, 07:02:48 AM
Newton Heath or Man U
Referring to them as Utd is far too respectful and disrespectful of all the other United's.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 21, 2021, 07:21:09 AM
I'm not really keen on Utd whatever United it is is.
Proper clubs don't shorten their names.

Aston Villa.....beautifully symmetrical, with five letters in each word.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Hopadop on September 21, 2021, 07:49:40 AM

There was an all-United clash last season between the Manchester and Sheffield variety and the pitchside person for TV asked a Sheffield Player his thoughts on 'the United chance' that he'd cleared. The player concerned didn't even think to question it. Arseholes.

My brother in law (a Blade) gets really angry about the 'original United' being disrespected this way.  Which is the only acceptable reason to do it.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: London Villan on September 21, 2021, 09:34:46 AM
man u - no capitals.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 21, 2021, 09:54:25 AM
Old skool supporters HATE being called Man Yoo. Was a derogatory term apparently used by Leeds.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: LeeB on September 21, 2021, 09:56:21 AM
Old skool supporters HATE being called Man Yoo. Was a derogatory term apparently used by Leeds.

Man Yoo it is then.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 21, 2021, 10:03:33 AM
Old skool supporters HATE being called Man Yoo. Was a derogatory term apparently used by Leeds.

Which is why we should be using that rather than the fawning name of their choice.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on September 21, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
I can't believe this thread is still here!!
At least change the name.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Drummond on September 21, 2021, 10:39:46 AM
I can't believe this thread is still here!!
At least change the name.

Yoo Away?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 21, 2021, 12:07:14 PM
Aston Villa.....beautifully symmetrical, with five letters in each word.

Bet you used to say the same about Small Heath. ;)
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 21, 2021, 01:41:04 PM
Mike 'Look at me!' Dean is ref for Saturday. There's no way that he's going to miss the opportunity to have a say in this game.

Either Ronaldo will 'win' a hat-trick of penalties or he'll be sent off.

Either way I doubt that Mike will not be one of the talking points after the game.

A ****** fest if ever I’ve seen one.
The worlds most cunty referee (all time), the worlds most cunty player of the last 15 years all in front of the worlds most cuntish fans supporting the worlds most cunty club. Terrific.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Pete3206 on September 21, 2021, 07:13:52 PM
It's  Manure and they reside at The theatre of commercial opportunities.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: not3bad on September 21, 2021, 07:55:24 PM
Man Utd & Man City to me.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: amfy on September 21, 2021, 08:12:33 PM
I go for Manu & Manc.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Bad English on September 21, 2021, 10:21:47 PM
Outrageous thread title. WTF?
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 21, 2021, 10:52:57 PM
I go for Manu & Manc.

Man Utd and Manchester. If it pisses off the Plastics, more the better.
Title: Re: Utd away
Post by: eamonn on September 22, 2021, 01:43:04 PM
Hold on Pelsall Villa, I think we need to clarify who we mean by "the Villa".
Not the same.

Not forgetting Nurney Villa in the Carlow & District League.
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