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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: ROBBO on August 17, 2021, 04:48:49 AM
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Was still pondering over the debacle of the first half on Saturday and got to thinking how well he played when called upon last season. He may not be the most elegant of players but his ability to handle high balls into the box gave us added security. Is there still a place for him (rumours Spam were enquiring)? I feel if we let him go someone will be getting a very good player.
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Well you need reserves that the manager is confident to bring in if the 1st team aren't performing. I'd imagine Smith will give the present players the benefit of the doubt, but if they play like that against Newcastle then you'd hope Hause and Tuanzebe would be considered. He was in the squad last game so that hints he's not entirely out the picture like Guilbert. I imagine if he left it would be because we got an offer too good to turn down considering we'd still have to buy a replacement. For that reason I don't think we'll sell him to West Ham this summer.
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I think Hause is highly regarded at the club.
He’s unfortunate that his position as a starter is that of Mings, but he is certainly an able deputy.
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Was still pondering over the debacle of the first half on Saturday and got to thinking how well he played when called upon last season. He may not be the most elegant of players but his ability to handle high balls into the box gave us added security. Is there still a place for him (rumours Spam were enquiring)? I feel if we let him go someone will be getting a very good player.
Play a 3-5-2 and we'd probably get the best from all three of our CB.
I know for several people here that I'm being heretical but the fact is several of the top clubs use 3-5-2 at times (as well as being able to play other formations, to suit the circumstances).
We may have dealt better with Sarr and Dennis on Saturday using this approach (although In suspect our lack of match practice would have done for us anyway).
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3-5-2 requires your fullbacks to be your wingers. I don't think ours are good enough. Yes targett is decent, but he's hardly Luke Shaw. Cash almost never gets past the half way line nowadays and I wonder where that converted midfielder / winger I thought we had brought is sometimes.
I like them both and on form they are very good players, but as our main wide outlet? Not for me. Particulalrly when we've just bought Bailey and it would probably be difficult to fit Traore in too.
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3-5-2 requires your fullbacks to be your wingers. I don't think ours are good enough. Yes targett is decent, but he's hardly Luke Shaw. Cash almost never gets past the half way line nowadays and I wonder where that converted midfielder / winger I thought we had brought is sometimes.
I like them both and on form they are very good players, but as our main wide outlet? Not for me. Particulalrly when we've just bought Bailey and it would probably be difficult to fit Traore in too.
You're right about Bailey and Traore of course, which is why the 3-5-2 would not be a go-to formation. It's about having the flexibility and foresight to be able to play whatever formation you need to, and to use all the players at your disposal. That was my point.
And, both Cash and Targett have shown that they can play de facto as wingback; as can Young (and Kesler-Hayden can also play that role effectively).
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I wouldn’t be selling him. He’s very competent when called on and he’s exactly what we need in the squad at the moment.
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No not all forgotten to me as a debate I would side not. Hause was on the bench and because he was involved in pre season matches he's hardly not been remembered by Smith and coaching team. Furthermore KH has not been out of sight and mind here at Villa this season as he was with the squad and a substitute on Saturday!
He may not appear to be first choice but I would say to me he's very much in Dean Smith plans given he's in the squad.
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He will play at Barrow and hopefully a few more cup games if we can have at least one decent run. He will also be available to play in the league and will likely come in if Mings is injured or suspended.
Anyway, not sure I see the point of this thread, maybe could be merged with...
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59324.700
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Im not sure about hause. Does a good job when called on but id have massive concerns of we needed him for a long run of games. He seems a bit clumsy at times and his passing isnt great
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Let him focus on his music career - he's not the worst at spitting bars, could definitely do with spending more time on it though judging by his performance on Football Focus a few months back. And yeah, when Ty makes himself droppable with some brain-fart moments, Hause can come in for a bit.
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That tackle on Lukaku. Not many defenders could do that correctly on the chelsea striker .
Mings , Konsa and Tuanzebe would have been proud of. None of them did that in the league game
He also showed excellent abillty to head the ball away time and again by being in a very good position on Wednesday night. Seemed to get most headers out.
Well done.
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He's never let us down when he's come in. Good player, I like him.
(Now put money on him making a ridiculous challenge on Fernandes to give away a penalty tomorrow)
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He's never let us down when he's come in. Good player, I like him.
(Now put money on him making a perfectly fair challenge on Fernandes to give away a penalty tomorrow)
Fixed.
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I really like Hause. He's not elegant but he's bloody effective. We're lucky we've got such a capable player as our third / furth choice centre back. I really hope he stays, but would undertsand if he wants to move on for first team football.
As for Saturday, whilst I'd be happy for him to slot in, I'd much rather we go to a 4 at the back and play 4-3-3.
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Another vote for Hause, never lets us down when he plays.
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Big fan of him, warrior in the air. Rarely if ever beaten in a physical contest. But given his limitations with the ball I'd be totally against him playing in a three at the weekend. Next to Konsa or Tuanzebe in a 2, absolutely no issue.
I'm somewhat surprised he has stayed with us this long as he would be more than capable of playing regularly in a decent championship team. Always will be Mings understudy for us.
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Lots of love for Hause from me.
Seems to be that bipolar player for us. While so many we've signed in last 20 years have had great debuts and then rapidly turned s*** within a month or two he's been the complete opposite.
A fantastic squad player. Unlucky not to play more but loads of CBs like that in premier league. If we're to keep progressing up the league we need squad players like him.
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I think he would do a good job for many Premier League clubs, let alone Championship clubs. I imagine he will move on for regular football and squad players will become kids that are coming through - Bogarde and then in time, Feeney.
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I think he would do a good job for many Premier League clubs, let alone Championship clubs. I imagine he will move on for regular football and squad players will become kids that are coming through - Bogarde and then in time, Feeney.
Can see Burnley coming in for him if they ever sell Tarkowski. Just a question if he'd want to move up there as opposed to being a decently paid squad player here.
Given he's still pretty young in good position to demand 10m + anyway.
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I hope we keep him - he's just the sort you need in the squad. Tuanzebe is the same.
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I'm also a fan.
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We will surely sign Axel next summer.
Probably kind of feels Hause will be allowed to leave then to balance the books a bit in that area and then we probably scout up and coming CB from europe who can slowly develop behind the three senior CBs we have.
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No, in answer to the OP.
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We will surely sign Axel next summer.
Probably kind of feels Hause will be allowed to leave then to balance the books a bit in that area and then we probably scout up and coming CB from europe who can slowly develop behind the three senior CBs we have.
Only if the youngsters mature enough. If we do play 3 at the back he's an essential substitute.
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No, in answer to the OP.
Especially after today.
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Scores the winner at OT and will probably be dropped next week.
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Give this man a new contract now
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1441786570642755584?s=21
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Looking like a right steal at the moment. How much was he, three mil?
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Scores the winner at OT and will probably be dropped next week.
I'd keep him in. Played very well away to Spurs end of last season.
Make Axel wait for his chance again.
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That’s two stellar performances this week against some pretty decent attacking players. I Hardly noticed Ronaldo today, that’s some work from the big fella.
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Hats of chap, you may be earning a new contract at this rate.
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He was immense again today, and last few minutes was right up in their penalty area. Love the guy.
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I really like Tuanzebe, but Smith tends to rewards players and think Hause has earnt his place against spurs. Ronaldo one week, Kane the next bring it on. Just really like Courtney, nothing to do with today (although it helps), just never ever lets us down.
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I'm so pleased for him that he scored the winner.
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I really like Tuanzebe, but Smith tends to rewards players and think Hause has earnt his place against spurs. Ronaldo one week, Kane the next bring it on. Just really like Courtney, nothing to do with today (although it helps), just never ever lets us down.
The other point is he's our player, who we should be developing.
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Great header great goal! Corner routines are obviously being worked on. Today's routine reminded me of Mings' effort vs Everton. Fortunately today's came off!
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Great header great goal! Corner routines are obviously being worked on. Today's routine reminded me of Mings' effort vs Everton. Fortunately today's came off!
Yeah, we sorted that issue by standing Ollie in front of Catweazle.
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Always liked Kortney and he fully deserves to keep his place. I’d still like to sign Axel permanently though.
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Like to know what he said to Fernaafter the penalty.
I doubt it was ‘bad luck old chap’
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if we're going to play 3 centre backs then we need at least 4 good centre backs - for me, Axel is fourth, but he's good enough - we're strong in that area at the moment.
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Give this man a new contract now
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1441786570642755584?s=21
Saw this earlier in the week and really admired his attitude. He obviously loves it here and wants to stay:
Kortney Hause
@Kortney_30
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Sep 22
Despite the result, always a pleasure to get the opportunity to wear the Villa shirt, the fans were immense!
I will always be ready to perform and fight for my place in the team #UTV
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He's improved a bit since his debut in a 3-0 thrashing by Wigan 2½ years ago!
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New contract please. Never lets us down when he plays. A big, strong defender and if I was managing another half decent club, I'd be trying to sign him. The likes of West Ham, Everton could do far worse than to have someone like Hause in their ranks. Hopefully, we give him another contract. Terrific squad player.
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What pleased me most was Bundia, Cash and Hause in their corner playing keep ball. They just couldn’t get it off them.
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Really like the guy, he better keep his place!
When is his current deal up?
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Next summer.
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Give this man a new contract now
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1441786570642755584?s=21
Saw this earlier in the week and really admired his attitude. He obviously loves it here and wants to stay:
Kortney Hause
@Kortney_30
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Sep 22
Despite the result, always a pleasure to get the opportunity to wear the Villa shirt, the fans were immense!
I will always be ready to perform and fight for my place in the team #UTV
Looking at that video, two things occurred to me:1) what a lovely bloke and 2) fucking hell he's a big unit!
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In response to the subject title.........
Not anymore.
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I think he deserves to start vs Spurs
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Yes, if performance is the reason for selection.
I'll feel a little sad for Axel though, as he's done little wrong.
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Obviously Dean is a follower of this forum.
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Obviously Dean is a follower of this forum.
I bet he has a sneaky read now and again (when we've won) .....wouldnt you?
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Yes, if performance is the reason for selection.
I'll feel a little sad for Axel though, as he's done little wrong.
That's just the ups and downs of football. But hopefully in any case Dean has instilled in them that this is a squad game this season, with everybody having to play their part.
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Yes, if performance is the reason for selection.
I'll feel a little sad for Axel though, as he's done little wrong.
That's just the ups and downs of football. But hopefully in any case Dean has instilled in them that this is a squad game this season, with everybody having to play their part.
Think based on this season so far, all the central defenders have been getting a decent run out. I'd happily have Axel & Kourtney signed up for a bit longer. We could have a solid, stable defence for years to come with them & Emi 1.
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Yes, if performance is the reason for selection.
I'll feel a little sad for Axel though, as he's done little wrong.
That's just the ups and downs of football. But hopefully in any case Dean has instilled in them that this is a squad game this season, with everybody having to play their part.
Think based on this season so far, all the central defenders have been getting a decent run out. I'd happily have Axel & Kourtney signed up for a bit longer. We could have a solid, stable defence for years to come with them & Emi 1.
Agreed - we've got really good options in defence now.
When you think that the fees paid for Mings, Hause, Konsa, Cash and Targett combined was less than Man Utd paid for Maguire alone, we've done some really good business in this department over the last couple of years.
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Yes, if performance is the reason for selection.
I'll feel a little sad for Axel though, as he's done little wrong.
That's just the ups and downs of football. But hopefully in any case Dean has instilled in them that this is a squad game this season, with everybody having to play their part.
Think based on this season so far, all the central defenders have been getting a decent run out. I'd happily have Axel & Kourtney signed up for a bit longer. We could have a solid, stable defence for years to come with them & Emi 1.
Agreed - we've got really good options in defence now.
When you think that the fees paid for Mings, Hause, Konsa, Cash and Targett combined was less than Man Utd paid for Maguire alone, we've done some really good business in this department over the last couple of years.
Yep whichever way you look at that it’s an impressive piece of work
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I’d defo start Kourtney tomorrow.
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Kortney is a beast in the air… as others have said we good choices at CB.
Let’s sign Axel permanently now.