Is he any good?
He’s a statement signing.
Happy days. Think we’ll need a pick me up come next week. Onwards and upwards.Is he any good?
He’s outstanding. I watch a decent amount of Bundesliga and he will get you out of your seat.
Interesting the club have clearly rushed this out as we don’t normally announce until all terms agreed. Maybe sensitive to our concerns at the moment?
He’s a statement signing.
Interesting the club have clearly rushed this out as we don’t normally announce until all terms agreed. Maybe sensitive to our concerns at the moment?
Transfer agreed subject to medical and personal terms.The King is dead long live the King.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Leon-Bailey/
Adapt the Tuanzebe song.
Adapt the Tuanzebe song.
Decent shout that.
Perfect signing, then.Adapt the Tuanzebe song.
Decent shout that.
Mowing my lawn and it scans fine. We don't need Tuanzebe now.
Leon Bailey and a Leon Bailey!
Leon Bailey!
Bailey!
Bailey!
Our counter attack will be so much more effective next season.
Absolute blistering pace is what our midfield/attack has needed.
See Mahrez. He's a quicker tempo but more direct. And has as good a left foot as Mahrez. Certainly better than Traroe.No one has better left foot than our Bert.
See Mahrez. He's a quicker tempo but more direct. And has as good a left foot as Mahrez. Certainly better than Traroe.No one has better left foot than our Bert.
Nice to see us looking outside of the championship for our players
Off you jog Greasy, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.
Great news, excited to see him. Hopefully double our money on him when we sell him in a couple of seasons.
Just joking guys!
Nice to see us looking outside of the championship for our players
I never really understand why people are overly concerned as to where we find our players. If they’re good what does it matter? Watkins and Emi are brilliant players and likewise so is Bailey. The fact two come from the Championship and one from the Bundesliga doesn’t seem overly relevant.
Great news, excited to see him. Hopefully double our money on him when we sell him in a couple of seasons.
Just joking guys!
I don’t know much outside of Villa, so I asked my lad when we were first linked to him.
He said he’s a £60m player.
So, given how clubs are needing to cash in on their assets, to get him for £30m is a bargain
I wonder if the club have pushed hard to get this deal to this stage today - bit of good news on top of all the Grealish negativity amongst the fan base
Our counter attack will be so much more effective next season.
Emi2, Leon & Ollie on the counter will bring back memories of Young, Gabby & Downing.
Our counter attack will be so much more effective next season.
Agree with both!Our counter attack will be so much more effective next season.
More importantly, our creativity will be on another level which should allow us not to rely on counter attacking, as powerful and effective as it may be.
Agree with both!Our counter attack will be so much more effective next season.
More importantly, our creativity will be on another level which should allow us not to rely on counter attacking, as powerful and effective as it may be.
Exciting times
With a certain Jack Grealish as well, we’d be like a purring Aston Martin going forward.
Adapt the Tuanzebe song.
Decent shout that.
Lovely, CD but as I'm sure you're well aware Villa songs are deemed long if they've got more than 2 lines. Massive room for improvement. Must try harder.
Great news, excited to see him. Hopefully double our money on him when we sell him in a couple of seasons.
Just joking guys!
Welcome Exiled in Workhop. It's a play on SHA description for Jack.Off you jog Greasy, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.This is my first post after lurking for ages.
I'm not too good at this interweb thingy, but I hope this is a joke. "Greasy"! >:(
Hi, Leon - fancy coming to Villa to play alongside Jack Grea..
Irish youth international. Could go on to big things, might even play for England. Could be the first £1billion English transfer deal.Hi, Leon - fancy coming to Villa to play alongside Jack Grea..
Who? Never heard of him.
Lovely, CD but as I'm sure you're well aware Villa songs are deemed long if they've got more than 2 lines. Massive room for improvement. Must try harder.
B B W
Big Beautiful Woman.
Buendia Bailey Watkins
B B W
Big Beautiful Woman.
Buendia Bailey Watkins
B B W
Leon, Leon Bailey, Leon Bailey in the aiiiiirrrrrr...Leon, Leon Bailey, Leon Bailey on the winggggg...gggg
Just had a gander at their forum. Pretty much unanimously agree that he's a good player, selling him too cheaply and that he should be joining a team higher up than us.
The English translation works a treat.
"Kicker speaks of 30-35 million. So it would almost be a bargain for Villa.
The coal must now be reinvested. Hope for a blast ...
And otherwise: You shouldn't stop travelers, so take care, Leon! Started well, eased off a lot and then found shape again. How the new season would have gone ... Absolute surprise bag. Right time to switch."
This is one of the biggest signings in our history I think. Not in terms of monetry value, but in terms of ability, profile and stature. He was being linked with the very best 2 years ago, came off a very good season and is 23.
Some bigger names have signed but at the back end of their career. This is a huge signing for me.
This is one of the biggest signings in our history I think. Not in terms of monetry value, but in terms of ability, profile and stature. He was being linked with the very best 2 years ago, came off a very good season and is 23.
Some bigger names have signed but at the back end of their career. This is a huge signing for me.
I agree, I cant ever remember us going to a regular Champions League club and signing one of their best players who haven't hit their prime yet. Its certainly a statement.
This is one of the biggest signings in our history I think. Not in terms of monetry value, but in terms of ability, profile and stature. He was being linked with the very best 2 years ago, came off a very good season and is 23.
Some bigger names have signed but at the back end of their career. This is a huge signing for me.
I agree, I cant ever remember us going to a regular Champions League club and signing one of their best players who haven't hit their prime yet. Its certainly a statement.
You've forgotten how we snatched Stuart Taylor from Arsenal, then.
This is one of the biggest signings in our history I think. Not in terms of monetry value, but in terms of ability, profile and stature. He was being linked with the very best 2 years ago, came off a very good season and is 23.
Some bigger names have signed but at the back end of their career. This is a huge signing for me.
I agree, I cant ever remember us going to a regular Champions League club and signing one of their best players who haven't hit their prime yet. Its certainly a statement.
You've forgotten how we snatched Stuart Taylor from Arsenal, then.
Djemba-Djemba too.
Aaaagh Stuart Taylor, Another one of our heroes that fucked off to Man City.
I'm so pleased with this news he's a brilliant player by what I've seen and heard just the sort of player we need.
'He's Jamaican, he's quick,Mate me laugh anyway. Saw LL bar the last 15 minutes of that film in a pub in Edinburgh before it was abruptly halted for closing time. Still no idea how it ends. I kind of like it that way. It adds mystique to the whole film.
His name's a Besson flick, Léon, Léooonnn!'
If you haven't seen the end of LEON, then you've missed out big time, a brilliant film from start to finish.'He's Jamaican, he's quick,Mate me laugh anyway. Saw LL bar the last 15 minutes of that film in a pub in Edinburgh before it was abruptly halted for closing time. Still no idea how it ends. I kind of like it that way. It adds mystique to the whole film.
His name's a Besson flick, Léon, Léooonnn!'
Really good signing this, and the price is a fair one. Bailey's a counter-attacking player with pace to burn and a keen eye for a free kick too - check out his 2019 goal against Werder Bremen (https://www.facebook.com/bayer04leverkusen/videos/bailey-free-kick-vs-werder-bremen/1161631847368998). He would need to play ideally in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1, so Grealish, Buendía and Bailey behind Watkins would be quite a sight to behold.
Give it six months and he'll be filed as horse shit by most of the reactionaries on here.
Give it six months and he'll be filed as horse shit by most of the reactionaries on here.Leon El Bailzi
Never heard of him before us being linked to him or seen him play but for £30 million he must be good - did read an article where he is meant to be a bit of a trouble maker if he does not get his own way
Could be an interesting signing if it happens
If this scans properly, then this would be brilliant.Adapt the Tuanzebe song.
Decent shout that.
I'd prefer we adapt Musical Youth's Pass the Dutchie, a celebration of Brummie West Indian culture
Villa generation
Rules the nation
We certain
Villa happen to be the food of love
Plays to really make you rub and scrub
I say
Pass to Bailey on the left hand side
Pass to Bailey on the left hand side
He's gonna burn
Give me pace , he's as fast as Bolt
He got da ball
Give me the goal, make me rockin' on the Holte
I say
Pass to Bailey on the left hand side
Pass to Bailey on the left hand side..
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Agreed personal terms and doing his medical in Florida. Source- his step dad.I suppose Craig Butler is coming with him as usual?
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Could be worse, could be Leon Brittan.
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Could be worse, could be Leon Brittan.
Err, ^^^^^
terms agreed, medical happening in Florida
Spent his formative years at Trenčín, like our Wes.
An unusual stopping off point for a Brazillian and Jamaican, I'd have thought.
And then Genk, which isn't so unusual.
Spent his formative years at Trenčín, like our Wes.
An unusual stopping off point for a Brazillian and Jamaican, I'd have thought.
And then Genk, which isn't so unusual.
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
it is some story (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/leon-bailey-bayer-leverkusen-kidknap-raids-and-mayonnaise-made-it-top)Spent his formative years at Trenčín, like our Wes.
An unusual stopping off point for a Brazillian and Jamaican, I'd have thought.
And then Genk, which isn't so unusual.
Someone mentioned elsewhere that it's worth looking in to the backstory of how Bailey came over to European football and before that why he ended up being adopted by his football coach.
it is some story (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/leon-bailey-bayer-leverkusen-kidknap-raids-and-mayonnaise-made-it-top)Spent his formative years at Trenčín, like our Wes.
An unusual stopping off point for a Brazillian and Jamaican, I'd have thought.
And then Genk, which isn't so unusual.
Someone mentioned elsewhere that it's worth looking in to the backstory of how Bailey came over to European football and before that why he ended up being adopted by his football coach.
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Kings of?
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Kings of?
Every time I see anything about this lad and see the name Leon I automatically think of Leon Britton. I'm losing it altogether.
Kings of?
Martinez, cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Sander Berge, Mcginn, Bailey, Grealish, Buendia, Watkins
Subs
Wesley, Steer, Sanson, Luiz, Hause, Young, Traore
Thanks for sharing the link, Ger. Fascinating story, and he seems to demonstrate a real purpose about his career decision-making, and a level-headedness.it is some story (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/leon-bailey-bayer-leverkusen-kidknap-raids-and-mayonnaise-made-it-top)Spent his formative years at Trenčín, like our Wes.Someone mentioned elsewhere that it's worth looking in to the backstory of how Bailey came over to European football and before that why he ended up being adopted by his football coach.
An unusual stopping off point for a Brazillian and Jamaican, I'd have thought.
And then Genk, which isn't so unusual.
The Canadian guy on The Holy Trinity has done a good piece on Leon Bailey and his back story - Dad getting kidnapped in Mexico etc.
Gabby suggesting he could play as a centre forward if Watkins missed any games.we’ve already got Davis and Wesley who can pretend to be centre forwards if Watkins is out….
its caused plenty of resentment on other fans forums - pareticularly Everton and Newcastle.
Thanks for sharing the link, Ger. Fascinating story, and he seems to demonstrate a real purpose about his career decision-making, and a level-headedness.it is some story (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/leon-bailey-bayer-leverkusen-kidknap-raids-and-mayonnaise-made-it-top)Spent his formative years at Trenčín, like our Wes.Someone mentioned elsewhere that it's worth looking in to the backstory of how Bailey came over to European football and before that why he ended up being adopted by his football coach.
An unusual stopping off point for a Brazillian and Jamaican, I'd have thought.
And then Genk, which isn't so unusual.
Takes free kicks, too.
I’d quite like this signing to be confirmed now.
I’d quite like this signing to be confirmed now.
Work permit needs to be sorted first. It shouldn't be a issue as he's a full International for Jamaica.
5.30pm BST is a bit late for a press conference. Looks fishy to me.
5.30pm BST is a bit late for a press conference. Looks fishy to me.
It's not a club press conference - it's his stepdad / agent's YouTube channel. He could do it at midnight if he wanted to.
I think his dad/stepdad/agent is going to be VERY high maintenance!
I think his dad/stepdad/agent is going to be VERY high maintenance!
To be fair based on those reports the guy has done a hell of a lot to put Bailey where he is now.
If any agent / hanger-on deserves a bit of milking it, it's probably him.
Gabby suggesting he could play as a centre forward if Watkins missed any games.we’ve already got Davis and Wesley who can pretend to be centre forwards if Watkins is out….
I love him already! ;DPMSL brilliant! :D
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1229116897593598 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1229116897593598)
Leon’s medical is taking a long time, what are they doing to him??
Every time we agree a deal there's always a few days before it's completed and there's always someone who says it's taking a long time so there must be a problem.
Yet how quickly can deals get done when they're done in the closing minutes of a transfer window?
Did anyone else hear about a press conference at 2:30PM from Florida?
Did anyone else hear about a press conference at 2:30PM from Florida?
It isn't 2.30pm in Florida yet, is it?
Heard the same
After the Club put it all over socials this would be very,very embarrassing
Heard the sameStill wouldn't be as embarrassing as every post you've ever made on this forum.
After the Club put it all over socials this would be very,very embarrassing
Get fucked you pair of keyboard bulliesBest post you've ever made.Not hard though.
Heard the same
After the Club put it all over socials this would be very,very embarrassing
Get fucked you pair of keyboard bullies
I think the "press conference" is some sort of trolling. Not by Bailey.Yep.agreed.
Get fucked you pair of keyboard bulliesBest post you've ever made.Not hard though.
Strangest thing I have ever seen!I think sooooooo!?
Is it real or what?
Audio no video? Very weirdThey did appear. Said a few words, introduced themselves and said they're waiting for Leon.
We are live, please don’t say piss, shit or fuck !
They turned of the camera stream, but audio was still on - was hoping they would say something that wasn't meant to be heard, but nothing noticed.
Am I the only one wondering that he is his "step-father", and he says on his main page, that he is the father of several professional football players?
This can't possibly be true, surely? Fucking hell. It's probably true. Fucking hell.
This can't possibly be true, surely? Fucking hell. It's probably true. Fucking hell.
What?
This can't possibly be true, surely? Fucking hell. It's probably true. Fucking hell.
What?
Liverpool nicking him off us.
This can't possibly be true, surely? Fucking hell. It's probably true. Fucking hell.
What?
Liverpool nicking him off us.
Someone on Twitter said there was big news for Villa and Liverpool fans. A bunch of people got over-excited and his exciting information turned out to be that we apparently asked them about someone called Curtis Jones.
The stream keeps saying starting soon How Soon Is NowIt is in Jamaica so who knows when it will start.
"Come in. This is Leon's neighbour's Serbian penpal"And this is Allan from Aldi.
Just said they will play Villa academy
This makes me think back to when Southampton bought George Weah's brother. Have we bought the right bloke?That's a good point. We've heard about all their strengths but not Leons.
This makes me think back to when Southampton bought George Weah's brother. Have we bought the right bloke?
This feels like an elaborate satire
Wearing a West Midlands Village shirtThis makes me think back to when Southampton bought George Weah's brother. Have we bought the right bloke?
Probably find out we’ve signed Len Bailee, who is the unlicensed Leon Bailey character on Pro Evo.
Liverpool want Saul Niguez
Please can someone post up the link to watch it or hear itBack in an hour or 5.
Please can someone post up the link to watch it or hear itBack in an hour or 5.
That's a recording not live. It's back at 1 so I'm told.It was a live stream that just ended. Leon is delayed at the airport.
That's a recording not live. It's back at 1 so I'm told.It was a live stream that just ended. Leon is delayed at the airport.
Said he was stuck at immigration in an airport. This is in Jamaica I think right now.That's a recording not live. It's back at 1 so I'm told.It was a live stream that just ended. Leon is delayed at the airport.
What airport?
Can he still travel to the UK whilst awaiting his work visa?
John Lennon Airport.
John Lennon Airport.
Imagine that
Well I've just got back from the pub and I've read the last few pages on this and i'm not sure if my drinks were spiked or i'm having a magic mushrooom flashback from the 80's .Is he joining Liverpool? why am I watching 2 blokes fixing a laptop ? who's the woman talking over them? The Barmaid? who the hell is fever tree butler? I don't know the answers to any of this. I'm going to bed
So have we signed him then?
So have we signed him then?
Watched him sign the contracts live in his step-dads basement. Easily the strangest signing, but signed.
So have we signed him then?
Watched him sign the contracts live in his step-dads basement. Easily the strangest signing, but signed.
There was an innocence about it that I liked. For some reason I smiled through most of it. Jamaican me laugh.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgWYbdUXHM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgWYbdUXHM
That’s a private video, presumably it did lead to the signing/‘press conference’
https://youtu.be/Y0GN7f4iNMA
Ummm, I have a feeling we might be hearing more from his old man….frequently.
His old man is his agent? I much prefer him to that cock looking after Jack's (his own) interests.
Welcome Leon and family!
So have we signed him then?
Watched him sign the contracts live in his step-dads basement. Easily the strangest signing, but signed.
His dad seems like abit of a idiot. "I wouldnt send my son to a team of losers"Would you send your son to Small Heath?
or maybe he just wanted to see family and friends whilst on the right side of the Atlantic. Whatever, I'm glad to see him...
His dad seems like abit of a idiot. "I wouldnt send my son to a team of losers"
Heard the same
After the Club put it all over socials this would be very,very embarrassing
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/Villa-confirm-Leon-Bailey-signing/
so a move not hijacked by Liverpool then as some had claimed....hmmm
His dad seems like abit of a idiot. "I wouldnt send my son to a team of losers"
He's far from it if you watch the whole thing.
His dad seems like abit of a idiot. "I wouldnt send my son to a team of losers"
He's far from it if you watch the whole thing.
Yeah i only went with the quotes but just watched it. He seems like he only wants whtas best for his son so i may have spoke out of haste.
Does seem like a tough customer though
Only 4 years isn’t ideal.
Hopefully a brilliant signing
Only 4 years isn’t ideal.
Hopefully a brilliant signing
Super Leon Bailey....Soooooopa Super Lee....It even scans correctly! ;)
He will be loved once he arrives properly. I have a good feeling about this signing.
I felt a bit down earlier but can't wait to see how all our new boys play now.
I felt a bit down earlier but can't wait to see how all our new boys play now.
Great signing but for some reason, I see trouble ahead.
This is a massive signing and its a shame that the Grealish circus overshadowed this.I was thinking this also.
I hope his dad doesn’t agitate for a ‘next step’ move in a couple of years, if he does well for us.
Do you think that both will be unveiled together?I think Bailey is quaratining. I'd expect Ings to be there though.
Is there a chance that either or both could play a part on Saturday?
I hope his dad doesn’t agitate for a ‘next step’ move in a couple of years, if he does well for us.
Watching one of those videos with his step-father, he mentioned that joining Villa was another step up on the way to the top. So I think the answer to your comment is that it is inevitable. Hopefully, the top will be with Villa but the Club should have their eyes open with this one and keep one step ahead with new contracts and 'buy-out' type clauses so as to protect us. A lesson from the Grealish saga is keep that exit clause at a high level so that if somebody wants the player, they pay top dollar for him. It is the way of football these days and you are lucky to get more than 4 years out of good players in their prime years unless you are consistently at the top.
I can’t be the only one who is uneasy about this transfer?I think it was all a bit rushed through as they wanted some good news given the Grealish issue. Same for Ings - announced within minutes of the deal being done. We probably rolled over a bit on both because of the timing.
No squad number given yet.
Press conferences is a garden shed led by his dad/agent.
It just doesn’t feel like the way villa operate and conduct transfer business….as is proven with our immaculate handling of the last transfer out, not the Louie Barry one.
It all feels very Micky mouse and unprofessional to me.
I’m looking forward to being proved completely wrong though.
I can’t be the only one who is uneasy about this transfer?
No squad number given yet.
Press conferences is a garden shed led by his dad/agent.
It just doesn’t feel like the way villa operate and conduct transfer business….as is proven with our immaculate handling of the last transfer out, not the Louie Barry one.
It all feels very Micky mouse and unprofessional to me.
I’m looking forward to being proved completely wrong though.
His dad looks like he has a bit too much mouth and influence for my liking, seems like a good bloke but i'd imagine a pain in the arse if he doesn't get his own way. That said i trust the management of our club to not make a mistake in this regard so i'm not worried.
I can’t see Purslow putting up with any of his shit !?
His dad looks like he has a bit too much mouth and influence for my liking, seems like a good bloke but i'd imagine a pain in the arse if he doesn't get his own way. That said i trust the management of our club to not make a mistake in this regard so i'm not worried.
I think he may be a pain in the arse if he doesnt get what he wants
Is Bailey the first player we've ever signed without him setting foot inside the stadium/training ground/offices/county/country/continent in order to do the deal?
His Dad's football den/Bootroom sure is a mighty powerful place.
Christian is retiring next year according to another poster so Pappa Bailey will be someone else's problem.
I have not heard anything about him being a difficult player , has anyone ?
Perhaps, but by then we'll be doing just fine I reckon and will be able to sign a replacement more easily.
When is this bloke turning up?Any sign yet?
why are so many people worried about him not being at the club yet. He's signed a contract with us and has clearly been given permission for time off and on when to join up with the rest of the squad. Do people think he's not going to show up?
why are so many people worried about him not being at the club yet. He's signed a contract with us and has clearly been given permission for time off and on when to join up with the rest of the squad. Do people think he's not going to show up?
I guess because they want to see him play football, and if he hasn't even made it to England yet, then it puts the chanes of him appearing any time soon at very slim.
Could delays be due to getting a work permit?
Could delays be due to getting a work permit?
No.
Good stuff. He's had much less holiday than Mings or Ephialtes of Trachis got, mind.
Good stuff. He's had much less holiday than Mings or Ephialtes of Trachis got, mind.
Good stuff. He's had much less holiday than Mings or Ephialtes of Trachis got, mind.
Good stuff. He's had much less holiday than Mings or Ephialtes of Trachis got, mind.Always like a reference that I have to look up on wikipedia.
Good stuff. He's had much less holiday than Mings or Ephialtes of Trachis got, mind.Always like a reference that I have to look up on wikipedia.
Very good :)
Good stuff. He's had much less holiday than Mings or Ephialtes of Trachis got, mind.Always like a reference that I have to look up on wikipedia.
Very good :)
Same here. It certainly beats 'Greasy' or 'Rat Boy' for imagination and humour.
Worse. Bailey's musical idols are Bono and Bonehead.
Worse. Bailey's musical idols are Bono and Bonehead.
Tbf he was the most talented member of Oasis
Pictured stretching the shirt at the training ground, for anyone still worried.
Pictured stretching the shirt at the training ground, for anyone still worried.
First day's training here, he didn't miss once.
https://video.avfc.co.uk/video/dm9kJTdDMF9lOGY1NTZyOCU3QyUyRnNlY3Rpb24lM0ZzbHVnJTNEaG9tZSU3Q2hvbWUlMkZoZXJvX2Nhcm91c2VsJTdDdW5kZWZpbmVk
I'm guessing f**e at the b**k?No, 3.
Onw of the few bright sparks today. Good assist debut.
He will be gone in summer if we dont improve
Onw of the few bright sparks today. Good assist debut.
He will be gone in summer if we dont improve
this summer?
(https://i.ibb.co/yYQT1Sr/Screenshot-2021-08-14-at-17-15-13.png) (https://ibb.co/yYQT1Sr)Onw of the few bright sparks today. Good assist debut.
He will be gone in summer if we dont improve
this summer?
Challenging Unsworth for shortest stint ever at the Villa.
Onw of the few bright sparks today. Good assist debut.
He will be gone in summer if we dont improve
this summer?
Challenging Unsworth for shortest stint ever at the Villa.
Onw of the few bright sparks today. Good assist debut.
He will be gone in summer if we dont improve
this summer?
Challenging Unsworth for shortest stint ever at the Villa.
God, the overreaction on here is ridiculous!
Onw of the few bright sparks today. Good assist debut.
He will be gone in summer if we dont improve
this summer?
Challenging Unsworth for shortest stint ever at the Villa.
God, the overreaction on here is ridiculous!
Needs a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
Frankie Valli - Can't take my eyes off you would be the unimaginative (but probably work well) choiceNeeds a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
All three subs improved us, Bailey will quickly become our new Grealish, Smiths starting eleven and game plan was gash.
Frankie Valli - Can't take my eyes off you would be the unimaginative (but probably work well) choiceNeeds a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
Oh Leon Bailey
And if it's quite alright
Oh Leon Bailey
You warm the lonely nights
Oh Leon Bailey
Trust in me when I say ...
Needs a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
Frankie Valli - Can't take my eyes off you would be the unimaginative (but probably work well) choiceNeeds a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
Oh Leon Bailey
And if it's quite alright
Oh Leon Bailey
You warm the lonely nights
Oh Leon Bailey
Trust in me when I say ...
I like that , could also segue his name into the The Ramones song - Baby I love you
Bailey, I love you, Leon Bailey
Bailey, I love you, Leon Bailey
Bailey I love, I love only you
Frankie Valli - Can't take my eyes off you would be the unimaginative (but probably work well) choiceNeeds a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
Oh Leon Bailey
And if it's quite alright
Oh Leon Bailey
You warm the lonely nights
Oh Leon Bailey
Trust in me when I say ...
Excellent work!!!Frankie Valli - Can't take my eyes off you would be the unimaginative (but probably work well) choiceNeeds a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
Oh Leon Bailey
And if it's quite alright
Oh Leon Bailey
You warm the lonely nights
Oh Leon Bailey
Trust in me when I say ...
However given the lack of invention in some of our songs we'll probably get
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark!
However given the lack of invention in some of our songs we'll probably get
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark!
This has my vote. What a tune.
However given the lack of invention in some of our songs we'll probably get
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark!
This has my vote. What a tune.
Clearly, you don't get over 9bn views on YouTube without it being a good tune.
If we want to get adventurous we could always change the 'doo doo doo doo doo doo' to 'in (the) claret and blue'. ;)
However given the lack of invention in some of our songs we'll probably getHa ha! Well that would be the first football chant my terrible memory for song lyrics remembers.
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark!
This gets my vote. Only problem is I have never seen a chant discussed on an internet forum make it to the stands. Not once. But if this gets going I'll be right behind it.Frankie Valli - Can't take my eyes off you would be the unimaginative (but probably work well) choiceNeeds a decent chant. "One Leon Bailey", FFS.
You're moaning a fair bit about that...do you have an alternative suggestion?!
Actually, there must be a million songs you could substitute the word ''Baby'' for ''Bailey''.
Oh Leon Bailey
And if it's quite alright
Oh Leon Bailey
You warm the lonely nights
Oh Leon Bailey
Trust in me when I say ...
Perfect
All of the other suggestions so far are wank but I’m not even going to attempt one !
However given the lack of invention in some of our songs we'll probably get
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark, doo doo doo doo doo doo
Bailey's a shark!
This has my vote. What a tune.
Clearly, you don't get over 9bn views on YouTube without it being a good tune.
If we want to get adventurous we could always change the 'doo doo doo doo doo doo' to 'in (the) claret and blue'. ;)
Ha, I like it. One section sings the 'Bailey's a shark' and the other 'in (the) claret and the blue'. This is gonna fly.
Blimey,there are no words.
Can we do the actions as well so other fans take the piss like they did with Hull's "mauled by the Tigers" chant?!That was amazing!
Can we do the actions as well so other fans take the piss like they did with Hull's "mauled by the Tigers" chant?!
Can we do the actions as well so other fans take the piss like they did with Hull's "mauled by the Tigers" chant?!
Someone on Twitter randomly mused that we should try to come up with a Villa chant to Supercalfragelistic...
Someone then came back with this and it is frankly superb...
Someone on Twitter randomly mused that we should try to come up with a Villa chant to Supercalfragelistic...
Someone then came back with this and it is frankly superb...
Probably a little too intricate for a crowd. I'd be happy with a reimagining of the Snodgrass song which was one of the better efforts of recent years. Celtic have a version for their new CB albeit one that will raise Risso's ire.
"There's a Starfelt playing at the back, he loves the Glasgow Celtic and he hates the Union Jack."
Someone on Twitter randomly mused that we should try to come up with a Villa chant to Supercalfragelistic...
Someone then came back with this and it is frankly superb...
Probably a little too intricate for a crowd. I'd be happy with a reimagining of the Snodgrass song which was one of the better efforts of recent years. Celtic have a version for their new CB albeit one that will raise Risso's ire.
"There's a Starfelt playing at the back, he loves the Glasgow Celtic and he hates the Union Jack."
Someone on Twitter randomly mused that we should try to come up with a Villa chant to Supercalfragelistic...
Someone then came back with this and it is frankly superb...
Super Leon Bailey our Jamaican wing magician
Flying down the wing he’s gonna scare the opposition
Flies past one and glides past two, you know he’s on a mission
Super Leon Bailey our Jamaican wing magician!
..repeat faster....
Then cue scenes as we go umdiddleumdiddleiddiyumdiddlelay!
Probably a little too intricate for a crowd. I'd be happy with a reimagining of the Snodgrass song which was one of the better efforts of recent years. Celtic have a version for their new CB albeit one that will raise Risso's ire.
"There's a Starfelt playing at the back, he loves the Glasgow Celtic and he hates the Union Jack."
Huh? If it had said "Union Flag" I'd have had my hackles up, but other than that?
Someone on Twitter randomly mused that we should try to come up with a Villa chant to Supercalfragelistic...
Someone then came back with this and it is frankly superb...
Probably a little too intricate for a crowd. I'd be happy with a reimagining of the Snodgrass song which was one of the better efforts of recent years. Celtic have a version for their new CB albeit one that will raise Risso's ire.
"There's a Starfelt playing at the back, he loves the Glasgow Celtic and he hates the Union Jack."
Someone on Twitter randomly mused that we should try to come up with a Villa chant to Supercalfragelistic...
Someone then came back with this and it is frankly superb...
Super Leon Bailey our Jamaican wing magician
Flying down the wing he’s gonna scare the opposition
Flies past one and glides past two, you know he’s on a mission
Super Leon Bailey our Jamaican wing magician!
..repeat faster....
Then cue scenes as we go umdiddleumdiddleiddiyumdiddlelay!
Tremendous!
Fucking hell, just fell down a small worm hole reminding myself about the Hull fans, and found this incredible cringworthy effort - City's victory video. It's unbelievable.
Fucking hell, just fell down a small worm hole reminding myself about the Hull fans, and found this incredible cringworthy effort - City's victory video. It's unbelievable.
Jesus twatting Christ.
Fucking hell, just fell down a small worm hole reminding myself about the Hull fans, and found this incredible cringworthy effort - City's victory video. It's unbelievable.
Jesus twatting Christ.
Just got cramp in my feet cringing at that 😖
Fucking hell, just fell down a small worm hole reminding myself about the Hull fans, and found this incredible cringworthy effort - City's victory video. It's unbelievable.
You cannot unsee that can you...............How can any genuine City fan not be sickened at that
Jesus twatting Christ.
Just got cramp in my feet cringing at that 😖
It's horrific isn't it.
If the Villa ever get so successful they do something as awful as that, please can someone kill me with my own season card!
Fucking hell, just fell down a small worm hole reminding myself about the Hull fans, and found this incredible cringworthy effort - City's victory video. It's unbelievable.
Jesus twatting Christ.
Just got cramp in my feet cringing at that 😖
It's horrific isn't it.
If the Villa ever get so successful they do something as awful as that, please can someone kill me with my own season card!
The Man City one or the Reading one. I’m not sure which is more cringeworthy.
The Man City one or the Reading one. I’m not sure which is more cringeworthy.Can't believe I'm going to write this but ...
That Reading thing is dreadful. It's something you'd hear on an even lower rent Eurovision, if there was such a thing.
As for football songs, Oh to be a Villan by Gary Nock is decent enough. It's not going to get you up dancing but it's a pleasant and catchy enough song.
That Reading thing is dreadful. It's something you'd hear on an even lower rent Eurovision, if there was such a thing.
As for football songs, Oh to be a Villan by Gary Nock is decent enough. It's not going to get you up dancing but it's a pleasant and catchy enough song.
with a bit of rewriting it could easily be our best Eurovision hope in years :o
Aim high, always my best option
The Man City one or the Reading one. I’m not sure which is more cringeworthy.
Reading support has to be one of the most plastic around, terrible away day.
The Man City one or the Reading one. I’m not sure which is more cringeworthy.
Jaysus H fucking Christ. The fuck did I just watch?
Ffs, bloody awful. I think other fans should sing it just to wind the twats up.Fucking hell, just fell down a small worm hole reminding myself about the Hull fans, and found this incredible cringworthy effort - City's victory video. It's unbelievable.
Jesus twatting Christ.
The Man City one or the Reading one. I’m not sure which is more cringeworthy.Can't believe I'm going to write this but ...
The Reading one's obviously shit, but in a moderately acceptable way. I mean, how many actually good songs are there about football teams that are actually taken to heart by the supporters? Hearts have one, the "ooh ahh Paul McGrath" one, Three Lions for England. Struggling to think of any others that have been actually adopted as a chant (tho I think the Paul McGrath one was a terrace chant first?). Then there's maybe World In Motion (England) that isn't sung but most folk agree it's one of the better efforts. Then nothing AFAIK.
So, alright, the Reading one is bad but I don't see it as particularly bad compared to anyone elses, and to be honest I quite like an "official" club song occasionally. They're mostly inane but you live in hope of getting a Three Lions/H.E.A.R.T.S..
The Man City one, on the other hand, is embarrassingly bad. Beyond awful.
Hoping he starts saturday. With a weeks training surely he will start
Be interesting to see who plays in the left if baileys on the right
Hoping he starts saturday. With a weeks training surely he will start
Be interesting to see who plays in the left if baileys on the right
Bailey will play on the left and Buendia on the right I reckon.
Everyone keeps talking about Bailey as a right winger, but he's made 60odd appearances on the left for Leverkusen, and only 30 or so on the right. Plus he's basically 2 footed.
Hoping he starts saturday. With a weeks training surely he will start
Be interesting to see who plays in the left if baileys on the right
Bailey will play on the left and Buendia on the right I reckon.
Everyone keeps talking about Bailey as a right winger, but he's made 60odd appearances on the left for Leverkusen, and only 30 or so on the right. Plus he's basically 2 footed.
I should hope he has got two feet considering the money we paid for him.
Hoping he starts saturday. With a weeks training surely he will start
Be interesting to see who plays in the left if baileys on the right
Bailey will play on the left and Buendia on the right I reckon.
Everyone keeps talking about Bailey as a right winger, but he's made 60odd appearances on the left for Leverkusen, and only 30 or so on the right. Plus he's basically 2 footed.
Hoping he starts saturday. With a weeks training surely he will start
Be interesting to see who plays in the left if baileys on the right
Bailey will play on the left and Buendia on the right I reckon.
Everyone keeps talking about Bailey as a right winger, but he's made 60odd appearances on the left for Leverkusen, and only 30 or so on the right. Plus he's basically 2 footed.
Not injured, just not ready to start yet. According to the press conference at least.
That’s absolutely the sort of thing I could imagine someone making up as a bit of attention seeking.'Attention Seeking' was the phrase I was searching for. It's obviously bollocks but feeds fevered imaginations.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/25/leon-bailey-aston-villa-via-slovakia-and-a-cold-austrian-park?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629887961
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/25/leon-bailey-aston-villa-via-slovakia-and-a-cold-austrian-park?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629887961
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/25/leon-bailey-aston-villa-via-slovakia-and-a-cold-austrian-park?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629887961
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/25/leon-bailey-aston-villa-via-slovakia-and-a-cold-austrian-park?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629887961
After going through all of that it would have been easy to have taken the money that the 3 English Clubs would have offered him. Looks like hes willing to work for his success, a lesson that I wish a lot of other Younger players heeded.
Dean Smith "Leon Bailey progress is going ok but Brentford will come too soon for him I expect both him and Bertrand Traore to be fit for the first game after the international break"Deano knows nothing!
Nice to see Bailey is fit enough to join up with the Jamaican squad.
They obviously have a much lower threshold for ‘being ready !!!’
Nice to see Bailey is fit enough to join up with the Jamaican squad.
They obviously have a much lower threshold for ‘being ready !!!’
You watch him aggravate his hamstring injury and be out for 4 weeks! Seriously, Villa should be firmer on these call-ups if he didn't play the last two weeks. It's not just the injury risk, but possible jet-lag from travelling. Will we ever field our full strength line-up?
Nice to see Bailey is fit enough to join up with the Jamaican squad.
They obviously have a much lower threshold for ‘being ready !!!’
You watch him aggravate his hamstring injury and be out for 4 weeks! Seriously, Villa should be firmer on these call-ups if he didn't play the last two weeks. It's not just the injury risk, but possible jet-lag from travelling. Will we ever field our full strength line-up?
They would all be missing international duty if they played for united. We really do need to start being more streetwise
Nice to see Bailey is fit enough to join up with the Jamaican squad.
They obviously have a much lower threshold for ‘being ready !!!’
You watch him aggravate his hamstring injury and be out for 4 weeks! Seriously, Villa should be firmer on these call-ups if he didn't play the last two weeks. It's not just the injury risk, but possible jet-lag from travelling. Will we ever field our full strength line-up?
They would all be missing international duty if they played for united. We really do need to start being more streetwise
Perhaps Deano should speak to Fergie for advice?
Nice to see Bailey is fit enough to join up with the Jamaican squad.
They obviously have a much lower threshold for ‘being ready !!!’
You watch him aggravate his hamstring injury and be out for 4 weeks! Seriously, Villa should be firmer on these call-ups if he didn't play the last two weeks. It's not just the injury risk, but possible jet-lag from travelling. Will we ever field our full strength line-up?
Only at Villa. I see Varane made his Man United debut at the weekend. Had that have been for Villa, it would be the last game to one at Christmas. Fucking stupid.
there's something off somewhere behind the scenes imoI’ve thought it was a strange one from the day we announced him signing.
Nice to see Bailey is fit enough to join up with the Jamaican squad.
They obviously have a much lower threshold for ‘being ready !!!’
You watch him aggravate his hamstring injury and be out for 4 weeks! Seriously, Villa should be firmer on these call-ups if he didn't play the last two weeks. It's not just the injury risk, but possible jet-lag from travelling. Will we ever field our full strength line-up?
This is pretty shit really. Nowhere near our last two squads, but now he’s off training with someone else.
Only at Villa. I see Varane made his Man United debut at the weekend. Had that have been for Villa, it would be the last game to one at Christmas. Fucking stupid.
Buendia and Ings made their debuts at Watford
Only at Villa. I see Varane made his Man United debut at the weekend. Had that have been for Villa, it would be the last game to one at Christmas. Fucking stupid.
Buendia and Ings made their debuts at Watford
So did Bailey.
Jamaica (amber list) are away at Mexico (red list) on 3 Sept, home to Panama on 5 Sept, then away at Costa Rica (red list) on 9 Sept.
If he goes to Mexico, he’ll have to miss the Chelsea game. If he goes to Costa Rica, he’ll miss Chelsea, Everton and Chelsea again.
Jamaica (amber list) are away at Mexico (red list) on 3 Sept, home to Panama on 5 Sept, then away at Costa Rica (red list) on 9 Sept.
If he goes to Mexico, he’ll have to miss the Chelsea game. If he goes to Costa Rica, he’ll miss Chelsea, Everton and Chelsea again.
So Smith stood there after Brentford talking about him def being back for Chelsea must have known about this surely, as manager etc?
Surely there needs to be some common sense applied to international football? How many other teams are losing players for matches or are we being soft touches?
Surely there needs to be some common sense applied to international football? How many other teams are losing players for matches or are we being soft touches?
We are not soft touches, we are just a very honourable club. I have no issues with that.
Surely there needs to be some common sense applied to international football? How many other teams are losing players for matches or are we being soft touches?
We are not soft touches, we are just a very honourable club. I have no issues with that.
IF we lose our next 2 games, I will think well at least we are an "Honourable Club"Then good luck in attracting the next International standard player to our Club.
I could not care less about players playing for their countries during the current COVid restrictions, we need them to be playing for Aston Villa
IF we lose our next 2 games, I will think well at least we are an "Honourable Club"Then good luck in attracting the next International standard player to our Club.
I could not care less about players playing for their countries during the current COVid restrictions, we need them to be playing for Aston Villa
So where the hell is he and is he fit enough to play against Chelsea?
Ivo Stas? - signed but never seen?
So where the hell is he and is he fit enough to play against Chelsea?
Joined up with Jamaica but was deemed unfit to play in the one game he was supposed to.
I presume he's back with us now but no idea if he'll be around for Saturday, hopefully 30 minutes off the bench and then start v Everton is best case scenario and we certainly need him in the team if we're to do anything this season.
If he doesn't surely it would be due to tactical reasons if he's fully fit.
Saw this on Twitter.....
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING, THE GREATEST WINGER I HAVE SEEN, OH BAILEY, OH BAILEY
Saw this on Twitter.....
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING, THE GREATEST WINGER I HAVE SEEN, OH BAILEY, OH BAILEY
That's a winner
Saw this on Twitter.....
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING, THE GREATEST WINGER I HAVE SEEN, OH BAILEY, OH BAILEY
That's a winner
Very good.
Saw this on Twitter.....
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING, THE GREATEST WINGER I HAVE SEEN, OH BAILEY, OH BAILEY
That's a winner
Very good.
I second that, excellent.
Sorry for not being down with the daddios but what's the tune? Thought it might be Manilow's Mandy but it don't scan.
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
Officially words Smith said
"We’ve also got Leon Bailey back to full fitness now. He’s not disappointed with what he’s shown so far in training...He’s trained with us for the last ten days, so he’s fully over the hamstring problem that he had. We’re excited to see him in a Villa shirt playing lots of minutes"
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Genius, that’s aceSaw this on Twitter.....
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING, THE GREATEST WINGER I HAVE SEEN, OH BAILEY, OH BAILEY
That's a winner
Very good.
I second that, excellent.
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Nah, the Risso version scans better.
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Nah, the Risso version scans better.
Creep!
Nah, I think Radiohead are a bit downbeat for a football song.
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Nah, the Risso version scans better.
Creep!
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Nah, the Risso version scans better.
Creep!
It was Drummond anyway! I was just pointing that his version scanned perfectly well.
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Nah, the Risso version scans better.
Creep!
It was Drummond anyway! I was just pointing that his version scanned perfectly well.
I’ve slept on it and think paul_e is correct.
Saw this on Twitter.....
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING, THE GREATEST WINGER I HAVE SEEN, OH BAILEY, OH BAILEY
"greatest WING i've ever seen" scans better than winger.
But unfortunately makes no sense. Drummond's version said "greatest winger I have seen", which scans perfectly well.
“Greatest winger I’ve ever seen ….
Maybe?
Nah, the Risso version scans better.
Creep!
It was Drummond anyway! I was just pointing that his version scanned perfectly well.
I’ve slept on it and think paul_e is correct.
Creep!
He will, he has that x-factor and will absolutely terrify teams.
When the ball fell to him in space you knew he was going to score. So emphatic.
Being interviewed on Sky, I love him even more.
Family in the stands, Injured from hitting the shot too hard, doesn't think its anything serious.
Jack who?
Baileys going to be absolute star
I agree Risso, I think if we can get him fit and starting he will make more of an impact more consistently than the rat did. He’s an incredible talent.
We’ve finally replaced Dwight.
As seemingly a rare Bundesliga watcher on here I told you he was class.Any other gems hiding in plain sight over there?
Will be a brilliant option for us in end to end games. So frustrating if he can't make next week or Spurs.
As seemingly a rare Bundesliga watcher on here I told you he was class.
Will be a brilliant option for us in end to end games. So frustrating if he can't make next week or Spurs.
This is why people were excited when we were linked to him back in June. Could well be the next 100m player we sell eventually. He's good enough to play left, right or centre imo. A Traore (Wolves version) who can beat players and can cross and finish.
This is why people were excited when we were linked to him back in June. Could well be the next 100m player we sell eventually. He's good enough to play left, right or centre imo. A Traore (Wolves version) who can beat players and can cross and finish.
So nothing like Traore then! 😉
Does anybody have the words to that Leon Bailey song they were singing ?
50 minutes of game time and already being mentioned for being sold. Good grief.
50 minutes of game time and already being mentioned for being sold. Good grief.
Just being realistic. If he takes off like I think he will he'll have every club in Europe looking at him whether we make top4 or not.. He's an ambitious lad so i'd say just enjoy we've got him for the next few seasons.
Yeah, a couple of brilliant runs. He basically skinned their defender whenever he wanted to. Can't wait to see how the officials find a way to cheat him at Old Trafford.
He'll fill the gap until Trez gets back.
Yeah, a couple of brilliant runs. He basically skinned their defender whenever he wanted to. Can't wait to see how the officials find a way to cheat him at Old Trafford.
If defenders get squared up to him face on, they're dead. He did it yesterday, in our half, two Everton players around him, stopped for a fleeting moment, then just motored round the outside. Shades of Daley.
Does anybody have the words to that Leon Bailey song they were singing ?
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!
Does anybody have the words to that Leon Bailey song they were singing ?
I think it was summat like...
You to me are everything,
The fastest winger I have seen.
Oh Bailey, Oh Bailey.
Or words to that effect.
Does anybody have the words to that Leon Bailey song they were singing ?
YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING THE BEST WINGER I’VE EVER SEEN OH BAILEY OH BAILEY
YOU PICK THE BALL UP ON THE WING
SCORE A GOAL & THE VILLA SING
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!
Enjoy what you've got, boys, it won't be there forever! It's why I still have a sneaking admiration for the Man City player. He's doing it right (or, rather, what I'd have done).
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!
Enjoy what you've got, boys, it won't be there forever! It's why I still have a sneaking admiration for the Man City player. He's doing it right (or, rather, what I'd have done).
I always thought the same but remember reading something years ago, maybe in The Observer, that clubs and agents want their “assets” settled rather than out on the lash so encourage them to get hitched and have a family.
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!
Enjoy what you've got, boys, it won't be there forever! It's why I still have a sneaking admiration for the Man City player. He's doing it right (or, rather, what I'd have done).
I always thought the same but remember reading something years ago, maybe in The Observer, that clubs and agents want their “assets” settled rather than out on the lash so encourage them to get hitched and have a family.
Definitely. It's in the club's interest to have a player going to bed on time every night because he's got to get up with the kids in the morning, versus being out on the lash hoovering up substances off strippers bumcheeks!
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!
Enjoy what you've got, boys, it won't be there forever! It's why I still have a sneaking admiration for the Man City player. He's doing it right (or, rather, what I'd have done).
I always thought the same but remember reading something years ago, maybe in The Observer, that clubs and agents want their “assets” settled rather than out on the lash so encourage them to get hitched and have a family.
Definitely. It's in the club's interest to have a player going to bed on time every night because he's got to get up with the kids in the morning, versus being out on the lash hoovering up substances off strippers bumcheeks!
That reminds me of somebody but I can't quite think who. James....Joe, nah, it's gone.
Any news on his injury?Unsurprisingly, he's not in any of the images of training on the official website, but it would be good if we could get more regular updates on players' injuries. He said himself it wasn't bad so let's hope it's just a tight thigh, though thigh injuries can linger on. Would be great to see what he can do against Utd.
I’ve never understood in what would it be beneficial for a football manager to publicly disclose player fitness/injury info.I'm struggling to think of a reason why that would be useful either.
All managers do, surely. It's just part of keeping the supporter base informed. I'm struggling to think of an occasion when not being honest about it has led to a material difference in a match we've played.
If Smith thinks it gives the team an advantage, however small, then then that's a good enough reason to do it.
All managers do, surely. It's just part of keeping the supporter base informed. I'm struggling to think of an occasion when not being honest about it has led to a material difference in a match we've played.
I think Smith thinks he's being clever and keeping the opposition guessing. It's an entirely pointless exercise as they will always find out information from the rival dressing room anyway.
It’s a bit early to say he’s fragile/injury prone isn’t it? He’s picked up what looks to be a couple of slight niggles.
It’s a bit early to say he’s fragile/injury prone isn’t it? He’s picked up what looks to be a couple of slight niggles.
On the back of an injury over the summer which meant he couldn't do a proper pre-season. The sort of niggles he's picked up for us are exactly the type you get if you're trying a bit to hard when not fully fit. I think he'll be fine, there's no real history of injuries that I can see.
Apparently someone spoke to him at New Street station today and he said he’s not going to the game tonight and is not fit for Saturday either.
I’ve seen the photo of him posing with a fan at New Street but obviously can’t verify the conversation.
Cos when Dean says a player is fit and then we look forward to see them play only to hear on the day of the game that their leg is in a plaster, it makes fans upset. They've paid £37 to see Leon/Emi brighten-up their weekend etc.This is nonsense. They have paid £37 to watch a Villa team play against a visiting team. The individual players of each team have no relationship to the cost of the admission.
If this is true, then questions need to be asked about why the club continues to tell lies about injuries
If this is true, then questions need to be asked about why the club continues to tell lies about injuries
What did they lie about?
I thought he was tremendous against Everton but heseems a very fragile, injury prone player. Has this always been the case?
If this is true, then questions need to be asked about why the club continues to tell lies about injuries
What did they lie about?
Indeed.
I think that there’s also the point that we don’t want to show our hand to our next opponents. Why broadcast that a particular player may be missing?
Out until after the next international break.
Will we get 90 mins (in total) out of him by Christmas?
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!You seem to be mansplaining men here.
Enjoy what you've got, boys, it won't be there forever! It's why I still have a sneaking admiration for the Man City player. He's doing it right (or, rather, what I'd have done).
Nothing to do with Leon Bailey per se, but I always find it bizarre (and a little depressing) that these footballers get married and have kids at such young ages. As much as it's a short career, it's a long retirement as a mid-30s, probably good looking, definitely in great shape multi-millionaire - do all that then!You seem to be mansplaining men here.
Enjoy what you've got, boys, it won't be there forever! It's why I still have a sneaking admiration for the Man City player. He's doing it right (or, rather, what I'd have done).
Will we get 90 mins (in total) out of him by Christmas?
Maybe a bit more but assuming he's back on October 24th, he will fly off again around the 7th of November for two international games. If he has to quarantine expect him back at BH around the 28th of November.
Will we get 90 mins (in total) out of him by Christmas?
Maybe a bit more but assuming he's back on October 24th, he will fly off again around the 7th of November for two international games. If he has to quarantine expect him back at BH around the 28th of November.
We’ll be lucky to have him playing a full 90 minutes before December then. What was his injury record like at Leverkusen?
Will we get 90 mins (in total) out of him by Christmas?
Maybe a bit more but assuming he's back on October 24th, he will fly off again around the 7th of November for two international games. If he has to quarantine expect him back at BH around the 28th of November.
We’ll be lucky to have him playing a full 90 minutes before December then. What was his injury record like at Leverkusen?
Played 40 odd games last season in league and europe. 30 + the season before and they only played 34 games in Bundesliga.
Just shows how crucial a pre season is for players.
Still no news if he is back weekend. I would imagine its unlikely he is back annoyingly.I think Ashley Preece expects him to feature in some capacity
If we continue with the 3-5-2, a fully fit Leon Bailey, playing a free role off Watkins/Ings, could be lethal.
Still no news if he is back weekend. I would imagine its unlikely he is back annoyingly.
Still no news if he is back weekend. I would imagine its unlikely he is back annoyingly.
We don't usually hear anything until Smithy's press conference anyway.
Still no news if he is back weekend. I would imagine its unlikely he is back annoyingly.
We don't usually hear anything until Smithy's press conference anyway.
Or during.
If we continue with the 3-5-2, a fully fit Leon Bailey, playing a free role off Watkins/Ings, could be lethal.
I hope we don't but if we stick with the 3 at the back I'd prefer us to really go for it and pick him instead of Targett from the start, I'd be doing everything I can to keep the midfield as the Dm and 2CM that has seen Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey and Sanson all look like they can be big players for us in a push for the top 8, by putting a 10 in there you create the same balance issues as we've had in the 4231 that just doesn't look right.
Be great if he's back for the Wolves game.Definitely. I don't see him starting for a while but if we can get 30mins out of him it would be good.
He won't be back. He's a Villa player. We will see him for about fifteen minutes in December, two of which will be spent hobbling off.
He won't be back. He's a Villa player. We will see him for about fifteen minutes in December, two of which will be spent hobbling off.
If we continue with the 3-5-2, a fully fit Leon Bailey, playing a free role off Watkins/Ings, could be lethal.
I hope we don't but if we stick with the 3 at the back I'd prefer us to really go for it and pick him instead of Targett from the start, I'd be doing everything I can to keep the midfield as the Dm and 2CM that has seen Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey and Sanson all look like they can be big players for us in a push for the top 8, by putting a 10 in there you create the same balance issues as we've had in the 4231 that just doesn't look right.
If we continue with the 3-5-2, a fully fit Leon Bailey, playing a free role off Watkins/Ings, could be lethal.
I hope we don't but if we stick with the 3 at the back I'd prefer us to really go for it and pick him instead of Targett from the start, I'd be doing everything I can to keep the midfield as the Dm and 2CM that has seen Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey and Sanson all look like they can be big players for us in a push for the top 8, by putting a 10 in there you create the same balance issues as we've had in the 4231 that just doesn't look right.
I know it worked v Everton but I don't think Bailey at LWB will work against many teams. He didn't look the type to be running back towards his own goal that often and other teams will exploit that.
A midfield three is a must for us, think Smith has kind of stumbled on that somewhat but Luiz and McGinn look so much better in a 3. Ramsey, Sanson and Nakamba competing for the last spot.
Likely Bailey, Watkins and Traore/Buendia as the front 3 ahead of them. 433 might not suit Ings and Buendia but the hard decisions on selection are coming soon for Smith.
Bailey hasn't signed for us to be a wing back.
Just play him off Watkins if we stick with 3-5-2 (Ings hasn't scored since August 21st after all) or just switch to 4-3-3 and play him on the right.
Bailey hasn't signed for us to be a wing back.
Just play him off Watkins if we stick with 3-5-2 (Ings hasn't scored since August 21st after all) or just switch to 4-3-3 and play him on the right.
No he hasn't but he came on for a wing back and just played as a winger, which is what I'm really suggesting.
Bailey vs traore in a race would be amazin to watch
Bailey vs traore in a race would be amazin to watch
I assume he means Adama not Bert. I’d go with Leon in that race TBH although he would most likely pull something before completing it.Bailey vs traore in a race would be amazin to watch
Is Traore that quick? I’d imagine Bailey would easily beat him
Buendia wasn't dropped. He was unavailable for the Chelsea game and has been unable to reclaim his starting place yet due to the performance of others.
Bailey hasn't signed for us to be a wing back.
Just play him off Watkins if we stick with 3-5-2 (Ings hasn't scored since August 21st after all) or just switch to 4-3-3 and play him on the right.
No he hasn't but he came on for a wing back and just played as a winger, which is what I'm really suggesting.
It's probably worth trying if we're just playing a park the bus type game v a Burnley but I wouldn't risk it v say Wolves given they've had some really good counter attack moves this season with likes of Adama and Trincao.
Trying to remember the chain of events v Everton but basically they took off Rondon so they didn't really have a focal point upfront and couldn't hold the ball and they also gave up with the two quick goals so just think it's a different situation to starting game v dangerous counter attack team as the weekend will be (hopefully Leon can be on the bench and we have another excellent cameo and then he starts at Arsenal).
Just hope it's not a case of going through the season with DS not really wanting to drop Ings due to the pricetag. He dosen't really look like scoring currently and front 3 of say Bailey-Watkins-Traore would be very exciting to watch and potential nightmare for defences.
Bailey hasn't signed for us to be a wing back.
Just play him off Watkins if we stick with 3-5-2 (Ings hasn't scored since August 21st after all) or just switch to 4-3-3 and play him on the right.
No he hasn't but he came on for a wing back and just played as a winger, which is what I'm really suggesting.
It's probably worth trying if we're just playing a park the bus type game v a Burnley but I wouldn't risk it v say Wolves given they've had some really good counter attack moves this season with likes of Adama and Trincao.
Trying to remember the chain of events v Everton but basically they took off Rondon so they didn't really have a focal point upfront and couldn't hold the ball and they also gave up with the two quick goals so just think it's a different situation to starting game v dangerous counter attack team as the weekend will be (hopefully Leon can be on the bench and we have another excellent cameo and then he starts at Arsenal).
Just hope it's not a case of going through the season with DS not really wanting to drop Ings due to the pricetag. He dosen't really look like scoring currently and front 3 of say Bailey-Watkins-Traore would be very exciting to watch and potential nightmare for defences.
Again this isn't how I want us to play, it's just something I'd like to see if we continue with 3 at the back because, whilst I like Targett a lot, he's absolutely a full back and not a wing back (unlike Cash who works as both). The Everton game showed that Targett was willing to get forward and put the effort in but it's just not his game to be the main attacking outlet on that side, he needs a player in front of him to open up the space for him to be effective.
Buendia wasn't dropped. He was unavailable for the Chelsea game and has been unable to reclaim his starting place yet due to the performance of others.
Dropped or not - we aren't picking our £33m record signing as a starter.
Bailey vs traore in a race would be amazin to watch
I'd probably beat both of them at the moment, given their injuries.
Baileys out superb. More dean smith waffle. I thought he be back after international window? It really frustrates me how they always down play the injuries
Bailey pulling his quad scoring is one of the great football injuries, like Dave Beasant dropping a salad cream bottle on his foot or Alex Stepney dislocating his jaw shouting at his defence.
Smith said they'd look at Bailey after the International break & decide then.
Which is exactly what they've done & they've decided he's not ready.
It's a disappointment but it is what it is.
Bailey pulling his quad scoring is one of the great football injuries, like Dave Beasant dropping a salad cream bottle on his foot or Alex Stepney dislocating his jaw shouting at his defence.
Vassell drilling his toenail is another.
That's exactly why I give them a wide berthBailey pulling his quad scoring is one of the great football injuries, like Dave Beasant dropping a salad cream bottle on his foot or Alex Stepney dislocating his jaw shouting at his defence.
Vassell drilling his toenail is another.
Alan Wright injured his knee because he didn't suit the seat position of a Ferrari.
Didn't Canizares miss a World Cup or European Championship due to dropping something on his foot? Possibly whilst in the shower.
Baileys out superb. More dean smith waffle. I thought he be back after international window? It really frustrates me how they always down play the injuries
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
Bailey pulling his quad scoring is one of the great football injuries, like Dave Beasant dropping a salad cream bottle on his foot or Alex Stepney dislocating his jaw shouting at his defence.
Vassell drilling his toenail is another.
Alan Wright injured his knee because he didn't suit the seat position of a Ferrari.
Big Keinan injuring himself locking the back door, making a toasted sandwich, and lying perfectly still in bed.*
*Probably
Big Keinan injuring himself locking the back door"
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
"More Dean Smith waffle"
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
"More Dean Smith waffle"
That's not blaming Smith though surely. It's just saying that 95% of what he spouts regarding injuries is absolute bollocks, because it is.
Doesnt rotate them either.I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
"More Dean Smith waffle"
That's not blaming Smith though surely. It's just saying that 95% of what he spouts regarding injuries is absolute bollocks, because it is.
Dean doesn't injure the players(!).
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
"More Dean Smith waffle"
That's not blaming Smith though surely. It's just saying that 95% of what he spouts regarding injuries is absolute bollocks, because it is.
Dean doesn't injure the players(!).
No he just exhausts them as he doesn't believe in player exhaustion!
Bailey pulling his quad scoring is one of the great football injuries, like Dave Beasant dropping a salad cream bottle on his foot or Alex Stepney dislocating his jaw shouting at his defence.
Vassell drilling his toenail is another.
Alan Wright injured his knee because he didn't suit the seat position of a Ferrari.
John Gidman getting hit in the eye by a firework.
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
"More Dean Smith waffle"
I struggle to see how this is the manager's fault. I'd imagine that he'd prefer to have him available for selection.
I struggle to see where anybody has said it's the manager's fault!
"More Dean Smith waffle"
That's not blaming Smith though surely. It's just saying that 95% of what he spouts regarding injuries is absolute bollocks, because it is.
Dean doesn't injure the players(!).
Well who can say they've never encountered that old problem?Bailey pulling his quad scoring is one of the great football injuries, like Dave Beasant dropping a salad cream bottle on his foot or Alex Stepney dislocating his jaw shouting at his defence.
Vassell drilling his toenail is another.
Alan Wright injured his knee because he didn't suit the seat position of a Ferrari.
Pretty sad and puts things into perspective to think that the next time Leon Bailey starts a game for us, there will be no tigers, gorillas or rhinos left. ☹
He got injured kicking the ball too hard ffs
I mean it beggars belief only at Villa this could happen
He's apparently in contention for Arsenal
he's back in training
Leon Bailey: How Aston Villa forward defied odds to make it from Jamaica to Premier League
It was a home debut so short as to amount to little more than a cameo, but few inside Villa Park for the 3-0 defeat of Everton in September will ever forget how emphatically Leon Bailey introduced himself to the Aston Villa faithful.
The 24-year-old, a £30m summer signing from Bayer Leverkusen, was brought on with just over an hour played. Within 21 minutes, he had delivered a swerving corner that led directly to a Lucas Digne own goal, sealed the victory with a powerful strike and, in doing so, sustained a hamstring injury that would see him substituted and ruled out for the next three games. He could return against Arsenal on Friday.
If the Jamaican winger seemed to thump the ball past Asmir Begovic that day with singular purpose, it is probably because scoring a first Premier League goal is a moment he had been expecting for some time.
"As soon as Leon walked into the first-team changing room, you could just feel that this guy had a lot of ambition," remembers Sandy Walsh, the Dutch full-back who played alongside a teenage Bailey with Belgian side Genk.
"All of us want to make it, to make a step to a big club. But with him you could just feel it. So much ambition could be seen in his body language."
That self-belief has carried him a long way. Bailey first came to Europe aged 12, accompanied by his adoptive father, Craig Butler, and brothers Kyle and Kevaughn. Butler ran the Phoenix All-Star academy in Kingston, Jamaica, which was part football school, part foster home, and Bailey was one of more than 20 boys he has adopted.
Convinced of Bailey's talent, Butler sold his home and car to fund a cross-continental journey, but they barely had enough money to sustain themselves as they hopped from hostel to hostel, without appropriate clothes for the cold European weather. Bailey didn't see his mother for four years.
They stopped in Austria, where Butler begged Red Bull Salzburg to offer his boys a trial. The club acquiesced but declined to sign the siblings. They instead joined second-tier USK Anif after being spotted playing in a local park by the club's sporting director.
By the time Bailey was 15, Genk wanted to sign him and agreed to take on his brothers, too. However, Fifa rules preclude clubs from signing under-18 players from different continents. And when Butler travelled to Mexico for a business trip - and to obtain documents that would satisfy the Fifa laws and allow Bailey's signing for Genk to be ratified - he was kidnapped and robbed, leaving him with injuries serious enough to put him in hospital.
Bailey's older brother Travis had to take care of the boys in Belgium. Upon Butler's return, he was denied residency and fell out with Genk after the club refused to a link-up deal with his academy back home. Bailey and co had to leave, returning to Jamaica.
Undeterred, Bailey was back in Europe in February 2015, with Ajax trying to recruit him. But his age - still only 17 - meant he could not be signed professionally. He instead joined Trencin in Slovakia, with an eventual move to Ajax promised. But that switch collapsed and by August, after he turned 18, he instead - at last - signed for Genk.
"He would tell stories about before, saying he had it hard in Jamaica," Walsh remembers. "He wanted to become a sprinter like Usain Bolt, an athlete. He was choosing between that and football, knowing that the football level in Jamaica wasn't big.
"He wanted to go for being a professional footballer, knowing how hard it is from a country like Jamaica to get into Europe and get a fair chance. When you hear about what he had to go through, you have a lot of respect for him. He was reaching his dream of becoming a professional footballer in Europe."
Bailey settled quickly in Belgium, soon breaking into the first team and demonstrating a useful knack for scoring in the most important games, including a rasping 20-yarder in a 5-2 victory over Anderlecht. Having impressed with his skill, speed and powerful shot, he was named Belgium's Young Footballer of the Year at the end of his first season with Genk.
"Leon was always on a high level, even in training," says Walsh. "He knew his qualities and we knew his qualities. I loved playing with him in front of me. In all of the European games, he was amazing. In all the top games in Belgium, he was amazing.
"When you're in the Europa League with a good team like Genk, if you can perform in the group stage and in the next round, there are going to be teams interested. But he didn't become an egoist on the pitch. He was still a team player. He was pushing me to become better, he was pushing the guys around him with assists and trying to have everybody happy in the changing room."
After a stellar start to his second season in Belgium, Bailey moved to Leverkusen for 20m euros in January 2017, reportedly declining offers from Chelsea, Manchester City and Manchester United. He still had his eye on the Premier League though.
"He was doubting whether to go to Germany or England," Walsh recalls. "If you perform in the Bundesliga, the way to the Premier League is much easier. Knowing the past, with Romelu Lukaku and [fellow former Genk standout] Kevin de Bruyne going to Chelsea, he saw that the step from the Belgian league to the Premier League is a big step. De Bruyne went to Germany and then became the main player at Manchester City."
Bailey's form undulated across three-and-a-half seasons with Leverkusen. He raced to 11 goals and five assists in his first 22 appearances of the 2017-18 campaign but added just one more goal to his tally that season. The highs included an impressive series of stunning strikes - not least both goals in a 2-1 win at Bayern Munich in November 2019 - but the lows led to him falling from favour, starting just 12 Bundesliga games in 2019-20.
But Bailey rediscovered his best form last season, scoring a career-high 15 goals and providing 11 assists, adding a level of consistency and maturity to his unquestionable talent.
"He's a very good player, very skilful, a fast player with a very good shot," says Leverkusen's director of sport, Simon Rolfe. "He came here as a really young guy and developed a lot. At the end, he was a really top player.
"He is very self-confident. He is a good team-mate. He is helpful to the other guys in the locker room. He was always a full part of the team.
"There was a lot of interest in him in the last years because of his performances. This summer, he wanted to join the Premier League and that's why we agreed with Aston Villa for the transfer."
He might only be 24 and with his best years ahead of him, but Bailey's lightning-rod Villa Park bow was more than a decade in the making, the realisation of a long-held Premier League dream.
He looked no where near fit Sunday and was playing within himself.C'mon Leon. We've seen enough false Dawn's. Let's see you rock St Mary's tonight. Please have a stormer.
Hope he is ready tonight.
He looked no where near fit Sunday and was playing within himself.I was singularly unimpressed with Bailey last week, until I reflected that he had received no decent ball, seemed to have been told to stay out wide (where it was very easy to be marked) and nothing for him to show his pace and close control on the move. I hope he's given more licence this evening to roam and find the space where his pace can really damage Sourhampton.
Hope he is ready tonight.
You can tell he's got the attributes needed at this level, in pace, skill, and an eye for goal. I'm much more certain that he'll come good than Buendia for instance. At the moment though, he's looking a bit like Bolasie, in that he's a very skilful player in a team that looks they don't know how to get the best out of him.
You can tell he's got the attributes needed at this level, in pace, skill, and an eye for goal. I'm much more certain that he'll come good than Buendia for instance. At the moment though, he's looking a bit like Bolasie, in that he's a very skilful player in a team that looks they don't know how to get the best out of him.
I get the comparison but it needs to be said that for Bolasie beating his man and creating space was the end goal, after that his entire career was a crap shoot, which is why he never broke beyond being a talented maverick. Bailey has end product on top in spades from what I've seen.
You can tell he's got the attributes needed at this level, in pace, skill, and an eye for goal. I'm much more certain that he'll come good than Buendia for instance. At the moment though, he's looking a bit like Bolasie, in that he's a very skilful player in a team that looks they don't know how to get the best out of him.
I get the comparison but it needs to be said that for Bolasie beating his man and creating space was the end goal, after that his entire career was a crap shoot, which is why he never broke beyond being a talented maverick. Bailey has end product on top in spades from what I've seen.
Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with Tonev?
You can tell he's got the attributes needed at this level, in pace, skill, and an eye for goal. I'm much more certain that he'll come good than Buendia for instance. At the moment though, he's looking a bit like Bolasie, in that he's a very skilful player in a team that looks they don't know how to get the best out of him.
I get the comparison but it needs to be said that for Bolasie beating his man and creating space was the end goal, after that his entire career was a crap shoot, which is why he never broke beyond being a talented maverick. Bailey has end product on top in spades from what I've seen.
Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with Tonev?
Tonev - entire career was/is crap shooting.
Bolasie - Entire career was/is a roll of the dice (crap-shoot).
He doesn’t like tracking back, does he? 😳
If he is not fit don’t play him.
I'd have taken him off after 20 mins, his efforts to offer cover for Cash were a disgrace to be honest. Surprised Mings or McGinn didn't go for him to be honest.
We haven’t he’s a very talented player, look at his record. He’s barely played and he’s in a team that we can see is badly set up. I wouldn’t be leaping to judgement.You're right, of course, but the situation is what it is and he is firing duds so shouldn't be in the starting XI. As we found out with Traore last season, the Premier league game requires all players to do a little of everything, and playing Bailey does not serve the team well right now.
We bought a dud.
As I followed up - the situation is what it is and he is firing duds so shouldn't be in the starting XI. As we found out with Traore last season, the Premier league game requires all players to do a little of everything, and playing Bailey does not serve the team well right now.We bought a dud.Ridiculously early to be writing him off, even by Villa misery arse standards.
Dud that is ridiculous
Its more the manager than the player. You can see bailey has some unbelievable quality. Just the manager ia not good enough
He looked like a conference league reserve player last night.We bought a dud.
Ridiculously early to be writing him off, even by Villa misery arse standards.
There aren't many options. There have been so many injuries and absences that there's no chance to get people properly fit etc.
He's not up to speed and in a side low on confidence that's really tricky.
We're in a perfect storm right now aren't we?
Dean Smith seemingly doesn't like Guilbert for fuck knows what reason, and now has a hard on for Sanson. It makes no sense at all. And how Axel keeps getting picked over Hause I will never know.he was like that with Engels
There aren't many options. There have been so many injuries and absences that there's no chance to get people properly fit etc.
He's not up to speed and in a side low on confidence that's really tricky.
We're in a perfect storm right now aren't we?
It’s just excuse making. He had a full squad against Arsenal.
Dean Smith seemingly doesn't like Guilbert for fuck knows what reason, and now has a hard on for Sanson. It makes no sense at all. And how Axel keeps getting picked over Hause I will never know.
His performance reminded me of Nzogbia at his worst, obvious talent but with an expression that suggested he did not have a clue what was happening around him.
What a stupid commentHis performance reminded me of Nzogbia at his worst, obvious talent but with an expression that suggested he did not have a clue what was happening around him.
Give him a chance
Dean Smith seemingly doesn't like Guilbert for fuck knows what reason, and now has a hard on for Sanson. It makes no sense at all. And how Axel keeps getting picked over Hause I will never know.
Hause literally cannot kick the ball with his right foot.
Subbed off with a hamstring injury.FFS
Subbed off with a hamstring injury.FFS
Hang on a minute. Cramp in any other world is okay, fine for next game. Cramp at Bodymoor Heath means sidelined until the new year. As you were.
One thing that irritates me with him, is his insistence on trying to beat the same guy 2 or 3 times with a move. You’ve beaten him, now just pass it or shoot or whatever, countless times he tries to be too tricky in the same passage of play.Reminds me a lot of Charles N'Zogbia - loads of ability, but has the tendency to run down too many dead ends.
I think he is feeling the pressure of the big move to the Prem and the need to justify his fee.....he simply looks to me as if he is trying too hard...one touch, beat your man, break or move it on.....atm he is trying to beat 3 or 4 defefenders in a square metre and giving the ball away...a sin at this level!
I am sincerely hoping he will be on the end of good advice from SG and his team and we'll see progress.
Fingers crossed thingy!
I may have been quick to call him out for not wanting it tonight. Sounds like I made a mistake. Something isn’t right with him though and its very worrying why this happening every other match or so.Looked the same injury he got against Everton.
What's the craic here, did we put him through a rigorous medical or just wave him through ?Medical? I reckon we just didn’t bother.
I definitely dont think he was faking it but you cant deny this guys very fragile and weak.
Another traore
Wasted a shit load of money in the summer
It's hard to argue that the money spent on Buendia and Bailey has provided any sort of a return yet.
Wasted a shit load of money in the summer
It's hard to argue that the money spent on Buendia and Bailey has provided any sort of a return yet.
No but then neither has exactly had the ideal scenario to start in.
Bailey needs a rest and proper physio and no rushing back in.
I still hope he comes good, but he's been shocking so far. I'm on the verge of downgrading him from Bolasie to N'Zogbia.
It's hard to argue that the money spent on Buendia and Bailey has provided any sort of a return yet.
Luxury player at the moment. Hopefully we'll see him at his best for 15-20 consecutive games before his contract finishes.
Luxury player at the moment. Hopefully we'll see him at his best for 15-20 consecutive games before his contract finishes.
Aren’t luxury items supposed to be nice to have or at least be of some use, if only a little.
Gerrard has confirmed he’s out for several weeks. Not so much a luxury as a complete and utter waste of money.
Very much this .... more chance Usain Bolt pulling on the shirt than his buddy..... we do tend to get our fair share of "injury prone" players.Luxury player at the moment. Hopefully we'll see him at his best for 15-20 consecutive games before his contract finishes.
Aren’t luxury items supposed to be nice to have or at least be of some use, if only a little.
Gerrard has confirmed he’s out for several weeks. Not so much a luxury as a complete and utter waste of money.
He won't be for the first player who needed time to acclimatise having joined from a slower paced foreign league. LB has some class about him and I think he'll come good at Villa.
Sending Leon and his thigh muscle some positive vibes maaaan.
Luxury player at the moment. Hopefully we'll see him at his best for 15-20 consecutive games before his contract finishes.
Aren’t luxury items supposed to be nice to have or at least be of some use, if only a little.
Gerrard has confirmed he’s out for several weeks. Not so much a luxury as a complete and utter waste of money.
When your car goes in to the garage to repair something, do you immediately get rid of it for being a complete and utter waste of money?
He's played 420 minutes of football for us. The equivalent of less than 5 matches. He's had an unlucky start to his career with us but let's not say he's a waste of money. He's not been blighted by injures in the past.
Maybe let's get him fit and then see what he can do before writing him off eh? Perhaps the injuries are to do with our backroom not getting him sorted properly.
He's played 420 minutes of football for us. The equivalent of less than 5 matches. He's had an unlucky start to his career with us but let's not say he's a waste of money. He's not been blighted by injures in the past.
Maybe let's get him fit and then see what he can do before writing him off eh? Perhaps the injuries are to do with our backroom not getting him sorted properly.
He's played 420 minutes of football for us. The equivalent of less than 5 matches. He's had an unlucky start to his career with us but let's not say he's a waste of money. He's not been blighted by injures in the past.
Maybe let's get him fit and then see what he can do before writing him off eh? Perhaps the injuries are to do with our backroom not getting him sorted properly.
And so far he's injured himself kicking the ball and running back into his own half.
He's played 420 minutes of football for us. The equivalent of less than 5 matches. He's had an unlucky start to his career with us but let's not say he's a waste of money. He's not been blighted by injures in the past.
Maybe let's get him fit and then see what he can do before writing him off eh? Perhaps the injuries are to do with our backroom not getting him sorted properly.
And so far he's injured himself kicking the ball and running back into his own half.
ha ha You couldn’t make that up
He's played 420 minutes of football for us. The equivalent of less than 5 matches. He's had an unlucky start to his career with us but let's not say he's a waste of money. He's not been blighted by injures in the past.
Maybe let's get him fit and then see what he can do before writing him off eh? Perhaps the injuries are to do with our backroom not getting him sorted properly.
And so far he's injured himself kicking the ball and running back into his own half.
. Not so much a luxury as a complete and utter waste of money.
You’re being daft now. But do tell us when Steven Fucking Gerrard earns a bit of your respect, oh positive one! 😀
You’re being daft now. But do tell us when Steven Fucking Gerrard earns a bit of your respect, oh positive one! 😀
I think he will benefit from a full pre season with us, one that’s designed to prepare the player’s body for the rigours of a PL season. He signed for us on the 4th August and made his debut 10 days later so like many new signings they struggle to adapt to the demands of the PL without adequate preparation.
I’m not writing him off yet, if we are in a similar position this time next year then my view may change.
What’s the latest update injury wise with Bailey ?
What’s the latest update injury wise with Bailey ?
What’s the latest update injury wise with Bailey ?
I think Gerrard would certainly have spent that wankers transfer fee a lot better. Bailey, Buendia and Ings have been complete failures.Bold, given that we haven't seen Gerrard through a transfer window.
A fully fit Bailey may come good, the other two…useless!!
Bold but true imo…I think Gerrard would certainly have spent that wankers transfer fee a lot better. Bailey, Buendia and Ings have been complete failures.Bold, given that we haven't seen Gerrard through a transfer window.
A fully fit Bailey may come good, the other two…useless!!
Ings may have been the right transfer at the wrong time. Bailey is a total EPL unknown. Buendia is classy but may lack staying power.
What’s the latest update injury wise with Bailey ?
Hurty something or other.
which you're entitled to, even if you're wrong 😁Bold but true imo…I think Gerrard would certainly have spent that wankers transfer fee a lot better. Bailey, Buendia and Ings have been complete failures.Bold, given that we haven't seen Gerrard through a transfer window.
A fully fit Bailey may come good, the other two…useless!!
Ings may have been the right transfer at the wrong time. Bailey is a total EPL unknown. Buendia is classy but may lack staying power.
Time will tell but I know I’m right, as I was when I used to slag Grealish off on here and got slated….which you're entitled to, even if you're wrong 😁Bold but true imo…I think Gerrard would certainly have spent that wankers transfer fee a lot better. Bailey, Buendia and Ings have been complete failures.Bold, given that we haven't seen Gerrard through a transfer window.
A fully fit Bailey may come good, the other two…useless!!
Ings may have been the right transfer at the wrong time. Bailey is a total EPL unknown. Buendia is classy but may lack staying power.
Time will tell but I know I’m right, as I was when I used to slag Grealish off on here and got slated….which you're entitled to, even if you're wrong 😁Bold but true imo…I think Gerrard would certainly have spent that wankers transfer fee a lot better. Bailey, Buendia and Ings have been complete failures.Bold, given that we haven't seen Gerrard through a transfer window.
A fully fit Bailey may come good, the other two…useless!!
Ings may have been the right transfer at the wrong time. Bailey is a total EPL unknown. Buendia is classy but may lack staying power.
How anyone can feel convinced any of them is crap is beyond me.
Boateng looked weedy as anything but was absolutely nails. Despite our current manager trying to break his leg.
The three we signed have had a disrupted pre season. A disrupted season due to fitness, injury and international issues and then a change of manager and yet another new system. How anyone can feel convinced any of them is crap is beyond me. They've all shown good signs and have pedigree. Let's not write them off yet.Yes spot on for all the reasons you state. I think the adjustment to the PL and it’s demands on a player is the reason Bailey is suffering injuries. A proper pre-season will hopefully see us get the best from him
And Bailey didn't come as an injury prone player.
The three we signed have had a disrupted pre season. A disrupted season due to fitness, injury and international issues and then a change of manager and yet another new system. How anyone can feel convinced any of them is crap is beyond me. They've all shown good signs and have pedigree. Let's not write them off yet.Please stop it. What’s with this common sense thing?
And Bailey didn't come as an injury prone player.
How anyone can feel convinced any of them is crap is beyond me.
You should have seen what people were saying about Steven Gerrard before he started! :)
How anyone can feel convinced any of them is crap is beyond me.
You should have seen what people were saying about Steven Gerrard before he started! :)
Not sure anyone said he was crap?
How anyone can feel convinced any of them is crap is beyond me.
You should have seen what people were saying about Steven Gerrard before he started! :)
Not sure anyone said he was crap?
They mostly weren't that polite or considered.
Anyway, back to Leon! Think he will come good as JPA did and that took some time. Wouldn't play him until he absolutely 100% fit and would be sparingly between now and end of season but all our sqaud will benefit from a pre season with Gerrard and co.
Seems quite a rarity for a foreign player to come from another league and hit the ground running. It happens but not often enough for it to be expected.Running seems to be the problem with Bailey.
Which is the glass-iest?Seems quite a rarity for a foreign player to come from another league and hit the ground running. It happens but not often enough for it to be expected.Running seems to be the problem with Bailey.
Anyone know what he is due back?
Anyone know what he is due back?
Gerrard said "we won’t see him before Christmas."
Anyone know what he is due back?
Gerrard said "we won’t see him before Christmas."
Did he say which one?
Buendia, our record signing, relegated to the bench? T'int right, Tom.
Buendia, our record signing, relegated to the bench? T'int right, Tom.
Just can't see it with Buendia Eamonn, not if we are looking seriously at breaking into the top six. Has some lovely touches at times, but gives the ball away far too often.
Buendia, our record signing, relegated to the bench? T'int right, Tom.
Just can't see it with Buendia Eamonn, not if we are looking seriously at breaking into the top six. Has some lovely touches at times, but gives the ball away far too often.
He gives it away more than Ratboy. We were blessed with someone who could hold it, and possession, so well.
Anyway, with all these choices, defences will have a bloody handful knowing who to mark.
Anyone know what he is due back?
Ings/Watkins
Bailey Coutinho Buendia
Get a song out of those players and we're a match for anyone in this league.
Agreed, I don't think we'll be setting up with those three. I think it will be two from Coutinho, Buendia, Bailey and Traore. Then one from Ings and Watkins up top. That is great depth and I'm pretty happy with that.Ings/Watkins
Bailey Coutinho Buendia
Get a song out of those players and we're a match for anyone in this league.
Maybe do that when we're chasing a game but that's not how Gerrard usually sets-up.
Ings/Watkins
Coutinho/Bailey Buendia/Traore
Ramsey/Sanson Luiz/Bissouma McGinn/Chuk
Digne Mings Konsa Cash
Martinez
Looks ok to me.
Anyone know what he is due back?
4 weeks. light training start of next month
PhysioAnyone know what he is due back?
4 weeks. light training start of next month
So what do they actually do until back in training - netflix and chill?
Of course he will be. He’s a speedster and they can get muscle injuries that linger. When he was fit, albeit briefly, he looked superb. I think we forced him back too quickly given how shit things were becoming and it worsened things after his injury vs Everton.Tricky things , Hamstrings and when they start going they tend to recur (see Owen Michael). He is pretty Young to be getting this severe a Hamstring problem.
Wasn't the second injury a quad? He reminds me of Jason Robinson, the egg chaser, who had shortened hamstrings that allowed him to accelerate like stink but massively shortened his career.They we’re both quads Everton and City.
Wasn't the second injury a quad? He reminds me of Jason Robinson, the egg chaser, who had shortened hamstrings that allowed him to accelerate like stink but massively shortened his career.
Breeze Block Leon to go with Concrete Ron.Oi! I resemble that remark! :)
Breeze Block Leon to go with Concrete Ron.Oi! I resemble that remark! :)
Is he still with us?
No sign of him on the latest training videos on the club website.
Is he still with us?Leon Bailey? never heard of him.
No sign of him on the latest training videos on the club website.
Is he still with us?
No sign of him on the latest training videos on the club website.
I agree £30m spent I want to know where he is and wtf is he and the club doing to get back in the team
His dad said "Fuck off! He can't come out; he's having his tea."
His dad said "Fuck off! He can't come out; he's having his tea."his Dad's a prick
His dad said "Fuck off! He can't come out; he's having his tea."his Dad's a prick
David Owen was phenomenal.
We all watched his hamstring go, and most of us know there's a long recovery period from these injuries.
A perennial problem for speed merchants, as are back stress fractures for pace bowlers.
I am convinced that PL clubs will soon reign back on signing this type of player. When Gabby made his first appearance, I was blown away. David Owen was phenomenal. Times change.
On the other hand, our ex player wassaname has gone back to Barca from the Dogheads. He was quick.
I only said that because his Dad wouldn’t let him out 😊His dad said "Fuck off! He can't come out; he's having his tea."his Dad's a prick
That's a bit harsh?
Bailey is still injured and no longer than the original estimate.
David Owen was phenomenal.
Oh mate, what happened to you? I always had you down as a proper leftie.
If he gets fit he'll prove his quality I think. Really hope he can get fit.
If he gets fit he'll prove his quality I think. Really hope he can get fit.
If he gets fit he'll prove his quality I think. Really hope he can get fit.
Not sure he will easily fit into Gerrard’s preferred formation.
If he gets fit he'll prove his quality I think. Really hope he can get fit.
Not sure he will easily fit into Gerrard’s preferred formation.
But at the very least a dangerous option off the bench.
Leon Bailey might make the bench at Newcastle. But he's had no mat h practice?
Leon Bailey might make the bench at Newcastle. But he's had no mat h practice?
He's probably going to pull a hamstring when he sits down.
He showed flashes but nothing more than that.
Did he look any good when he came on ? Couldn't cope with watching how bad we were so followed the last 10 minutes on the radio.
He showed flashes but nothing more than that.
He showed flashes but nothing more than that.
I think that's an arrestable offence isn't it?
BrilliantHe showed flashes but nothing more than that.
I think that's an arrestable offence isn't it?
He attempted it but got a bollock caught in his zipper and he’s now out for the season.
There's Something About BaileyOne sore baileys
There's Something About Bailey ...... yes, he masquerades as a footballer.
There's Something About Bailey ...... yes, he masquerades as a footballer.
I wish he was a little bit taller
Perhaps he's a Republican, like all sensible people.
He looks like someone who's just been asked onto the dance floor and just isn't interested.
A few feathers ruffled on Twitter there: "Harrumph! Why can't he stand up when talking to royalty? Splutter!"
Perhaps he's a Republican, like all sensible people.
Hopefully he’s a republican
Hopefully he’s a republican
It would appear not. https://twitter.com/leonbailey/status/1506774475588747265
Hopefully he’s a republican
It would appear not. https://twitter.com/leonbailey/status/1506774475588747265
You seem suspiciously smug about this for an Irishman, BV!
Don’t think he’d be top of the list when it comes down to whom you’d want next to you in the trenches.I'd stick him in a trench.....then fill it in.
Obviously needs a full pre season under his belt but on all evidence so far I’m not sure how, where or when he would fit into a Gerrard team.
I think Buendia is one of our best players and we can’t seem to play him in the starting eleven. I hope when Nekamba is back that may change.
I think Buendia is one of our best players and we can’t seem to play him in the starting eleven. I hope when Nekamba is back that may change.
How many games have you been too this season? Buendia may have had a decent 90 mins in total in all the games he has played - sorry that's estimating it
I think Buendia is one of our best players and we can’t seem to play him in the starting eleven. I hope when Nekamba is back that may change.
How many games have you been too this season? Buendia may have had a decent 90 mins in total in all the games he has played - sorry that's estimating it
We had our pants pulled down signing Bailey for the fee we paid considering Luis Díaz was only £37m, same with Buendia who is just an extremely expensive version of Jota.Yeah feels a bit like that
None of the players we spent the Grealish money on will be consistent match changers for us - they'll have an effect in 3 matches out of 10 and that's the show.
I've been to every home game and for me Buendia has been one of our few bright sparks this season. He started a bit slowly but was our best player for a good few weeks before becoing victim of the formation change.I think Buendia is one of our best players and we can’t seem to play him in the starting eleven. I hope when Nekamba is back that may change.
How many games have you been too this season? Buendia may have had a decent 90 mins in total in all the games he has played - sorry that's estimating it
I haven’t been to any, but I’ve watched most matches up until the last three. Does that not count? Obviously not in you’re eyes.
I like him, I like the way he plays and in my opinion he’s a very good player and it’s a shame we can’t fit him in the starting line up.
We had our pants pulled down signing Bailey for the fee we paid considering Luis Díaz was only £37m, same with Buendia who is just an extremely expensive version of Jota.Yeah feels a bit like that
None of the players we spent the Grealish money on will be consistent match changers for us - they'll have an effect in 3 matches out of 10 and that's the show.
Oh to make a shrewd signing
He's still got a good hit on him, his shot in the first half from outside the box was encouraging.True, although El Ghazi can do that and scored reasonably regularly, and he has been deemed to be surplus to requirements. Also even he tracked back better than Bailey does.
At times we expect too much. His first game was an eye opener he was that good, since then like so many of our newer players he gets injured and has a fair time out. Without injuries it takes time for players to adapt to the speed of the premiership so i would advocate for patience and see how he goes with a full pre season.
At times we expect too much. His first game was an eye opener he was that good, since then like so many of our newer players he gets injured and has a fair time out. Without injuries it takes time for players to adapt to the speed of the premiership so i would advocate for patience and see how he goes with a full pre season.
At times we expect too much. His first game was an eye opener he was that good, since then like so many of our newer players he gets injured and has a fair time out. Without injuries it takes time for players to adapt to the speed of the premiership so i would advocate for patience and see how he goes with a full pre season.
True. I'd also add that Gerrard had to plan his team without wingers due to injuries. Bailey coming back into a formation that doesn't include wingers was always going to be a tough one.
I don't get it.
He came with such a reputation but he looks no better than El Ghazi at the moment.
One of the harshest thing to do to anybody is question their integrity, but I do wonder exactly how ‘injured’ he is. When he gave up tracking back that once and the crowd started to get on his back, the limping ‘got worse’.
One of the harshest thing to do to anybody is question their integrity, but I do wonder exactly how ‘injured’ he is. When he gave up tracking back that once and the crowd started to get on his back, the limping ‘got worse’.
Or he was injured couldn’t get back and was subbed. Should have come off sooner as it was obvious he had a problem.
One good shot. Far too weak in every challenge and easily dispossessed. From the first time he went down it was obvious that he did not want to battle on. The way he gave up on tracking back when he lost the ball was not acceptable.
The only consolation was that the other glass man Traore did not come on and pick up an injury. El Ghazi must wonder what he has done to have been cast aside.
One of the harshest thing to do to anybody is question their integrity, but I do wonder exactly how ‘injured’ he is. When he gave up tracking back that once and the crowd started to get on his back, the limping ‘got worse’.The thought crossed my mind too. Felt like he just ran out of gas, chasing back. Hope it wasn’t actually the case.
Having watched it back, it was a bad challenge by Williams - clearly affected Bailey's ankle.
I blame Gerrard full on for picking him week in week out. And we should be seeing a hell of a lot more of his supposed talent for the money we have dished out. Just not good enough. Sell and recoup whatever money we can on him. Panic buy, homework not completed properly and a complete let down. Sorry I want to be positive when I post but he's the sort of player I have no time for in football.
Why does he need a pre-season to even attempt to take an opposition defender on?
I can see the logic in giving him a run in the side.
He played football before arriving at the Villa and was apparently quite good at it. We should give him a fair crack before writing off another 30 million quid.
Why does he need a pre-season to even attempt to take an opposition defender on?
I think he's scared of going full pelt in case his hamstring goes yet again. Loads of players talk about not being able to fully trust their bodies if they've had a run of injuries so it's not some bizarre mentality.
He was very unlucky not to score yesterday with that great Krul save but does feel like he's a bit broken for the premier league.
Think we've just got to see how he starts next year. Gerrard's started him in 3 of the last 4 so he obviously sees him as a player for next season unlike Sanson and Traore.
One of the harshest thing to do to anybody is question their integrity, but I do wonder exactly how ‘injured’ he is. When he gave up tracking back that once and the crowd started to get on his back, the limping ‘got worse’.
Or he was injured couldn’t get back and was subbed. Should have come off sooner as it was obvious he had a problem.
you wouldn't want Bailey in your team in a relegation battle.
Three years into his Villa career I didn't even think of Delph as our player, and if he hadn't got injured when he was at Leeds on loan he would very likely have stayed there. Eighteen months later he was our captain and playing for England
reminds me of Sasa Curcic or Charles N'Zogbia. Talented, but injury prone and a bit work-shy. Could still work out.Tend to agree but I think next season will be his zenith. N'Zogbia had multiple chances with us and Wigan but always ended up delivering short.
Bailey cost twice as much as Sanson and probably earns a fair wedge more. More pressure to give Bailey opportunities to show what he can do.
To me, Sanson has a cultured playing style that we've not really had from midfielder since the days of Petrov and Barry. I'm really disappointed we have never given him a proper run in the team to show what he can do.
Three years into his Villa career I didn't even think of Delph as our player, and if he hadn't got injured when he was at Leeds on loan he would very likely have stayed there. Eighteen months later he was our captain and playing for England
Can only watch him on the box but i get the impression he's not as speedy as we thought he would be.
I think he has the classic sign of a guy that lacks confidence in his acceleration in case he breaks down again.
Can only watch him on the box but i get the impression he's not as speedy as we thought he would be.
He was like a rocket for his goal against Everton. I think he has the classic sign of a guy that lacks confidence in his acceleration in case he breaks down again. He has been a huge flop no doubt but can still turn things around with a serious pre season behind him. His back story on how he got to this level suggests he's a very resilient sort. If he is willing to put the graft in this summer, there could still be a role for him.
Can only watch him on the box but i get the impression he's not as speedy as we thought he would be.
He was like a rocket for his goal against Everton. I think he has the classic sign of a guy that lacks confidence in his acceleration in case he breaks down again. He has been a huge flop no doubt but can still turn things around with a serious pre season behind him. His back story on how he got to this level suggests he's a very resilient sort. If he is willing to put the graft in this summer, there could still be a role for him.
He's not been 'a huge flop' at all; he's had a serious injury, then broke down again when he came back in.
Can only watch him on the box but i get the impression he's not as speedy as we thought he would be.
He was like a rocket for his goal against Everton. I think he has the classic sign of a guy that lacks confidence in his acceleration in case he breaks down again. He has been a huge flop no doubt but can still turn things around with a serious pre season behind him. His back story on how he got to this level suggests he's a very resilient sort. If he is willing to put the graft in this summer, there could still be a role for him.
He's not been 'a huge flop' at all; he's had a serious injury, then broke down again when he came back in.
It looks to me like a lack of self confidence being compounded by having had a really tough time with injuries and, when he does get a run out, feeling the extra pressure of having to deliver.
We can just take £30m and piss it away so easily, he needs a decent pre season and a fresh start.
It looks to me like a lack of self confidence being compounded by having had a really tough time with injuries and, when he does get a run out, feeling the extra pressure of having to deliver.
We can just take £30m and piss it away so easily, he needs a decent pre season and a fresh start.
I see Leon has jetted off on holidays on a private jet judging from his IG post a day or so ago. Now I don't begrudge anyone having a break and getting away from it all but has Leon played 90 minutes this season? 60 even? 45 anyone?
He's just so bloody frustratingly fragile it seems
QuoteHe's just so bloody frustratingly fragile it seems
And crap.
He may end up being crap or quality. One things for sure though, we ain’t seen enough of him in full fitness. I reckon he was only fit for that first couple of appearances
Needs a good clear pre-season and hopefully then we can see the player we bought.
This guy won't make it and will inevitably moved on for a loss. Bossed up the German league?
Let's take that absolute imposter of a footballer 'Sancho' on loan next season by that logic. Who's down?
This guy won't make it and will inevitably moved on for a loss. Bossed up the German league?
Let's take that absolute imposter of a footballer 'Sancho' on loan next season by that logic. Who's down?
Well, we could do with him coming good as he's the only attacking player we've got with real pace. I love watching both Coutinho and Buendia but think they're both too similarly one paced to play the majority of a season together. There's also no point having two players putting slide rules passes through when your main striker has the first touch of a wrecking ball.
I've literally never seen Sancho play well. Admittedly i've rarely watched him, but even so.
Aren’t we allowed to say ‘touch of a rapist’ anymore?
It’s just political correctness and wokism gone mad.
Whoosh
I can’t see where he fits in. Gerrard sets out a narrow attack and with the intention of dinghe and cash bombing forward We don’t play with wingers as such
He showed some great skills and pace early on. A good pre season and he'll be fine.
Aren’t we allowed to say ‘touch of a rapist’ anymore?
It’s just political correctness and wokism gone mad.
What was his injury record for his last club like?
What was his injury record for his last club like?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leon-bailey/verletzungen/spieler/387626 (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leon-bailey/verletzungen/spieler/387626)
nothing much in there.
What was his injury record for his last club like?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leon-bailey/verletzungen/spieler/387626 (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leon-bailey/verletzungen/spieler/387626)
nothing much in there.
Their injury stats aren't usually very reliable. He was injured a lot more than that for us, for a start.
Scored for the Reggae Boyz last night. 8) https://twitter.com/cnationsleague/status/1536863553201704960?Thats a very well taken goal.
Scored for the Reggae Boyz last night. 8) https://twitter.com/cnationsleague/status/1536863553201704960?
The phrase 'like a new signing' is probably over used. But if he gets fit and firing over the summer he could be another incredibly good asset for next season that would be like a .... well y'know.
The header was Andy Gray like. I’m expecting him to now go from speedy glass like winger to hard as nails, high leaping front man.
After watching him push past a nurse trying to ask him to hand Sanitise, casting her aside.Context: He'd just heard his family were involved in a car crash and was obviously in panic mode
https://twitter.com/danmorgi34/status/1537856441691820034?s=21&t=wMr9NweDmcLjb5WR0S8bHQ
I would like to give this guy zero chance to impress and get him out of the club. Attitude and rudeness is something I abhor
After watching him push past a nurse trying to ask him to hand Sanitise, casting her aside.
https://twitter.com/danmorgi34/status/1537856441691820034?s=21&t=wMr9NweDmcLjb5WR0S8bHQ
I would like to give this guy zero chance to impress and get him out of the club. Attitude and rudeness is something I abhor
I hope his family are OK.
What happened to his fam?
What's the latest with him?
What's the latest with him?
Well he’s super talented so hopefully we’ll get there. His pace and directness is also something we lack, so he adds flexibility to our play.
He just needs time to put a run together and prove his worth. I said on this thread earlier, I really think part of his problem last season was that he was so eager to prove himself as quickly as possible, he didn't show us his best.
A full pre-season and the start of a new season will give him a more stable base to grow into what we need from him.
I think it is a confidence thing with him.
He just needs time to put a run together and prove his worth. I said on this thread earlier, I really think part of his problem last season was that he was so eager to prove himself as quickly as possible, he didn't show us his best.
A full pre-season and the start of a new season will give him a more stable base to grow into what we need from him.
I think it is a confidence thing with him.
I think it’s a never being fit thing with him.
What's the latest with him?
Everything irie.
What's the latest with him?
Everything irie.
Every ting surely?
Bailey can play in a front three and I'm sure we will play that at times next season.
Well done Leon. Maybe we shouldn't keep writing off players before giving them a chance.
Finally, the baller we were promised.Let’s hope.
Well done Leon. Maybe we shouldn't keep writing off players before giving them a chance.
Liverpool.com isn't the official site?
Hope it isn't.
Well done Leon. Maybe we shouldn't keep writing off players before giving them a chance.
Yep - both Buendia and Bailey were written off way too quickly by some.
There's absolutely loads of people writing him off for his talent in this thread, just go back to end of April.
There's absolutely loads of people writing him off for his talent in this thread, just go back to end of April.
The last dozen or so match threads had so much shit thrown at Bailey you'd think he was Danny Drinkwater.
There's absolutely loads of people writing him off for his talent in this thread, just go back to end of April.
At Wolves he was barely trying. Right in front of us, half heartedly making his way forwards and backwards at a crawl. You can tolerate a lot a fan, but not an absence of effort. He rightly got stick.
Worried about getting injured, so floating around the pitch, hoping to avoid getting hurt, combined with rock bottom confidence. Im guessing this was some of it.
At Wolves he was barely trying. Right in front of us, half heartedly making his way forwards and backwards at a crawl. You can tolerate a lot a fan, but not an absence of effort. He rightly got stick.
You might well be right, but who knows what was behind the perceived lack of effort. Main thing is he’s getting the preseason he needs behind him and hopefully we’ll see the real potential he has now.
There's absolutely loads of people writing him off for his talent in this thread, just go back to end of April.
Bailey deserves credit for the way he has approached pre-season. I know it's what he's paid very well to do but a lot of players retreat into their shell when it hasn't been going well. He's come out swinging and I like it.
Bailey deserves credit for the way he has approached pre-season. I know it's what he's paid very well to do but a lot of players retreat into their shell when it hasn't been going well. He's come out swinging and I like it.
There's absolutely loads of people writing him off for his talent in this thread, just go back to end of April.
It's maybe better to wait until he does actually prove himself in the Premier League before getting too defensive about him.
Just support the guy, jesus wept. We signed him 10 days before our first match last year - not exactly a great way to get him ingrained in the club.I think people are. No need for the better fan than yow lecture.
Just support the guy, jesus wept. We signed him 10 days before our first match last year - not exactly a great way to get him ingrained in the club.I think people are. No need for the better fan than yow lecture.
There’s a big difference between “he looks shit (currently)” and “he is shit (and always will be)”.
What are we supposed to do when watching players just lie about their performance
This writing off players is a load of bollocks no one does it really we just tell the truth when someone’s not playing well
When Buendia first came he looked off the pace no touch and he was a bit rubbish for what was at that time our record signing we quite rightly felt a bit deflated, that’s the truth it’s not writing him off it’s just telling the truth
Everyone wanted him to up his game and start performing like the player we thought we’d signed which he did and has done he is now one of the best in the squad
Still doesn’t change the fact he took a while to settle in and while he did he wasn’t looking very good, that’s it There’s no point in being scared to say it it’s a bloody football forum
Leon in the Grauniad
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/05/leon-bailey-aston-villa-premier-league
I don't play Fantasy Football, but I have a few friends who do, and in their discussions on social media I've been genuinely surprised at how many teams seem to have Bailey included. These aren't Villa fans, just people who tend to watch a lot of football. Maybe the buzz about his pre-season is extending beyond Bodymoor and Villa Park? I'm guessing his goal against Man Utd will have been seen by quite a few...
Very excited to see a fit and flying Bailey this season!
I don't play Fantasy Football, but I have a few friends who do, and in their discussions on social media I've been genuinely surprised at how many teams seem to have Bailey included. These aren't Villa fans, just people who tend to watch a lot of football. Maybe the buzz about his pre-season is extending beyond Bodymoor and Villa Park? I'm guessing his goal against Man Utd will have been seen by quite a few...
Very excited to see a fit and flying Bailey this season!
I’ve put him in my team, he’s a bargain at £5m, sohave a number of others in our league but then we are all Villa season ticket holders.
Whenever I see his thread bumped a day before a game, I always assume he is injured.
Is he going to start tomorrow ?
Leon in the Grauniad
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/05/leon-bailey-aston-villa-premier-league
Come on, Leon
Oh, I swear (what he means)...
Come on, Leon
Oh, I swear (what he means)
At this moment
You score everything
You in that kit
Their thoughts, are 'oh shit'
Here he comes again
Ah, come on, Leon
I like what Dean Smith Said about Fantasy football.I don't play Fantasy Football, but I have a few friends who do, and in their discussions on social media I've been genuinely surprised at how many teams seem to have Bailey included. These aren't Villa fans, just people who tend to watch a lot of football. Maybe the buzz about his pre-season is extending beyond Bodymoor and Villa Park? I'm guessing his goal against Man Utd will have been seen by quite a few...
Very excited to see a fit and flying Bailey this season!
I’ve put him in my team, he’s a bargain at £5m, so have a number of others in our league but then we are all Villa season ticket holders.
Bailey showed very little throughout last season to suggest he would cut it in this League (like Sancho).
If having this pre-season makes him the player many thought he was, happy days.
To be entirely open, I expressed serious doubts about him ... and I hope I'm wrong .
Come on, Leon
Oh, I swear (what he means)
At this moment
You score everything
You in that kit
Their thoughts, are 'oh shit'
Here he comes again
Ah, come on, Leon
That's absolutely terrible, haha.
1 in 10 player. Bring back Traore asap.
I thought he was our best attacking player for most of the first half, but he was getting no help or options even when he created space in the attacking areas.
Then he faded completely out of the game.
I thought he was our best attacking player for most of the first half, but he was getting no help or options even when he created space in the attacking areas.
Then he faded completely out of the game.
He was dire in second half. You could see the Bailey from last season, afraid to take on his man, poor body language and ultimately looking to be taken out of his misery. It's hard to be too critical of an individual yesterday given the collective shit show but simply he lacks zip about him.
1 in 10 player. Bring back Traore asap.
At least we know what we're getting with him - he won't defend for shit, but poses some sort of goal threat.
1 in 10 player. Bring back Traore asap.
At least we know what we're getting with him - he won't defend for shit, but poses some sort of goal threat.
I really like Bert. He's an entertaining watch. But he's got something like 7 goals in 45 league matches for us. Let's not re-write history and turn him into Eden Hazard.
I thought he was our best attacking player for most of the first half, but he was getting no help or options even when he created space in the attacking areas.
Then he faded completely out of the game.
He was dire in second half. You could see the Bailey from last season, afraid to take on his man, poor body language and ultimately looking to be taken out of his misery. It's hard to be too critical of an individual yesterday given the collective shit show but simply he lacks zip about him.
I thought he was our best attacking player for most of the first half, but he was getting no help or options even when he created space in the attacking areas.
Then he faded completely out of the game.
He was dire in second half. You could see the Bailey from last season, afraid to take on his man, poor body language and ultimately looking to be taken out of his misery. It's hard to be too critical of an individual yesterday given the collective shit show but simply he lacks zip about him.
I thought he was our best attacking player for most of the first half, but he was getting no help or options even when he created space in the attacking areas.
Then he faded completely out of the game.
He was dire in second half. You could see the Bailey from last season, afraid to take on his man, poor body language and ultimately looking to be taken out of his misery. It's hard to be too critical of an individual yesterday given the collective shit show but simply he lacks zip about him.
What on earth am I reading?! Do we even have another player outside of Leon Bailey with zip or the ability to square up a defender and take them on? Let alone both attributes..?
He is clearly being used incorrectly. In the fire half he was isolated which allowed him to take advantage of the space around him. In the second half, things changed. Buendia and Coutinho were allowed to roam in upper half of the pitch which restricted his space and we could barely get the ball out to him. It's not his fault we play with the handbrake on. McGinn, Ramsey and Coutinho couldn't decisively get forward with pace for the life of them.
Leon Bailey seemed like the only one that knew where the goal was for the first 60 minutes.
Seen enough to realise he ain't going to make it in the prem. We tried,it didn't work.
Try and sell while we can.
Not my cup of tea. Would trade him for Eze or Olise in a heartbeat.
Many of us wanted those two before they went to Palace, same with Bowen.
Not my cup of tea. Would trade him for Eze or Olise in a heartbeat.
Many of us wanted those two before they went to Palace, same with Bowen.
Sorry,it's the prem.You need more than a one shot in a game.No presence either.
No time for sympathy.
Sorry,it's the prem.You need more than a one shot in a game.No presence either.
No time for sympathy.
LOL, by that logic our entire squad would already be platooned to Turkey.
Let’s worry about our actual problems and not a good winger who is being failed by a narrow system.
No.His spatial awareness is shocking.He gave the ball away more than once,and he's knocked off the ball far,far too easily.Sorry,it's the prem.You need more than a one shot in a game.No presence either.
No time for sympathy.
LOL, by that logic our entire squad would already be platooned to Turkey.
Let’s worry about our actual problems and not a good winger who is being failed by a narrow system.
If that shot that hit the bar had gone in we been lauding him.
He was one of the better players who posed any attacking threat. He was better than Buendia today no?
Sorry,it's the prem.You need more than a one shot in a game.No presence either.
No time for sympathy.
Not my cup of tea. Would trade him for Eze or Olise in a heartbeat.
Many of us wanted those two before they went to Palace, same with Bowen.
Yep. Good players can be found in the championship, certainly ones that would improve us. Yet our recruitment is by and large poor.
Look also at how much talent has come over from Portugal in recent years and generally adapted quickly and been good signings. Yet they've all passed us by.
Gerrard isn't the only one we should be questioning.
Seen enough to realise he ain't going to make it in the prem. We tried,it didn't work.comment the biggest load of crap in my 60 years of supporting Viila,
Try and sell while we can.
You need to take up golfSeen enough to realise he ain't going to make it in the prem. We tried,it didn't work.comment the biggest load of crap in my 60 years of supporting Viila,
Try and sell while we can.
No.His spatial awareness is shocking.He gave the ball away more than once,and he's knocked off the ball far,far too easily.Sorry,it's the prem.You need more than a one shot in a game.No presence either.
No time for sympathy.
LOL, by that logic our entire squad would already be platooned to Turkey.
Let’s worry about our actual problems and not a good winger who is being failed by a narrow system.
If that shot that hit the bar had gone in we been lauding him.
He was one of the better players who posed any attacking threat. He was better than Buendia today no?
Bundesliga yet again showing its it's an inferior product.
He's already done more than N'Zogbia did in a fraction of the appearances. Ridiculous comparison.ok :)
He will win us the game v West Ham.
Dear oh dear, isn't this the shit we were worried might happen when he had Leon sign his contract down in his Man-Cave on their new version of The Footballers Football Show?It’s precisely what we thought
It looks like he's written it with his foot after a night on the juice.
It looks like he's written it with his foot after a night on the juice. The winger part rings true though and thats what pisses me off. We looked as if we were laying foundations behind the scenes and putting a system in place were by we would sign players to fit into a system and any unfortunate managerial changes that needed to be made would fit in with that system aswell, and then we ripped all that up for Steven fucking Gerrard.
Dear oh dear, isn't this the shit we were worried might happen when he had Leon sign his contract down in his Man-Cave on their new version of The Footballers Football Show?It’s precisely what we thought
It just makes me more concerned that there is something not quite right at the club.
It just makes me more concerned that there is something not quite right at the club.It has that feeling to it I wonder if the new assistant has had the opposite effect to what we expected. Come to the training pitch determined to shake things up to make his mark trying to fix something that wasn’t really broken. Pure supposition of course no ITK here.
But we were pretty broken at the end of last season. What was it? Just wins over relegated Norwich and Burnley and averaging 1 point per game in the last 12 games.It just makes me more concerned that there is something not quite right at the club.It has that feeling to it I wonder if the new assistant has had the opposite effect to what we expected. Come to the training pitch determined to shake things up to make his mark trying to fix something that wasn’t really broken. Pure supposition of course no ITK here.
It just makes me more concerned that there is something not quite right at the club.It has that feeling to it I wonder if the new assistant has had the opposite effect to what we expected. Come to the training pitch determined to shake things up to make his mark trying to fix something that wasn’t really broken. Pure supposition of course no ITK here.
But we were pretty broken at the end of last season. What was it? Just wins over relegated Norwich and Burnley and averaging 1 point per game in the last 12 games.It just makes me more concerned that there is something not quite right at the club.It has that feeling to it I wonder if the new assistant has had the opposite effect to what we expected. Come to the training pitch determined to shake things up to make his mark trying to fix something that wasn’t really broken. Pure supposition of course no ITK here.
My feeling is Beale was a great go between to temper the very serious, unrelenting nature of Gerrard. Either Critchley isn't doing that in the same way, or they just are not responding to him... except - allegedly - regarding McGinn.
My feeling is Beale was a great go between to temper the very serious, unrelenting nature of Gerrard. Either Critchley isn't doing that in the same way, or they just are not responding to him
My feeling is Beale was a great go between to temper the very serious, unrelenting nature of Gerrard. Either Critchley isn't doing that in the same way, or they just are not responding to him
It's three games!
Bailey needs to tell his dad to wind his neck in. Has he forgotten the bloke spent most of last season in the treatment room? Now he wants him to join a new club if they don’t play to his system. Fack off is what I would say.He is only stating the bleedin obvious
Bailey needs to tell his dad to wind his neck in. Has he forgotten the bloke spent most of last season in the treatment room? Now he wants him to join a new club if they don’t play to his system. Fack off is what I would say.He is only stating the bleedin obvious
The problem is when this stuff is out there it is reflective of problems in house. Gerrard is on borrowed time. I know people say it’s only 3 games but it’s not 3 games. It’s the guts of a year where we have seen little to suggest that we are on the right path. And rumours of Craig Dawson do little to allay thatBailey needs to tell his dad to wind his neck in. Has he forgotten the bloke spent most of last season in the treatment room? Now he wants him to join a new club if they don’t play to his system. Fack off is what I would say.He is only stating the bleedin obvious
Which he can do if he wants... just 'in-house'.
The problem is when this stuff is out there it is reflective of problems in house. Gerrard is on borrowed time. I know people say it’s only 3 games but it’s not 3 games. It’s the guts of a year where we have seen little to suggest that we are on the right path. And rumours of Craig Dawson do little to allay thatBailey needs to tell his dad to wind his neck in. Has he forgotten the bloke spent most of last season in the treatment room? Now he wants him to join a new club if they don’t play to his system. Fack off is what I would say.He is only stating the bleedin obvious
Which he can do if he wants... just 'in-house'.
The problem is when this stuff is out there it is reflective of problems in house. Gerrard is on borrowed time. I know people say it’s only 3 games but it’s not 3 games. It’s the guts of a year where we have seen little to suggest that we are on the right path. And rumours of Craig Dawson do little to allay thatBailey needs to tell his dad to wind his neck in. Has he forgotten the bloke spent most of last season in the treatment room? Now he wants him to join a new club if they don’t play to his system. Fack off is what I would say.He is only stating the bleedin obvious
Which he can do if he wants... just 'in-house'.
Inagree that Bailys father should not be doing this but maybe thingsbarenrocky enough at the Villa that he feels he can getbaway with it. Also is he doing this by proxy for his son? Which only adds to the possibility of all not beingbweel in the court of GerrardThe problem is when this stuff is out there it is reflective of problems in house. Gerrard is on borrowed time. I know people say it’s only 3 games but it’s not 3 games. It’s the guts of a year where we have seen little to suggest that we are on the right path. And rumours of Craig Dawson do little to allay thatBailey needs to tell his dad to wind his neck in. Has he forgotten the bloke spent most of last season in the treatment room? Now he wants him to join a new club if they don’t play to his system. Fack off is what I would say.He is only stating the bleedin obvious
Which he can do if he wants... just 'in-house'.
Oh I'm no Gerrard fan John, I just think this particular issue is more to do with the character of his dad. I reckon he would have been like this with any manager who didn't play him at any club. Definitely been poor since the turn of the year. Dawson? Meh, it's just back up, no one coming in as back up is going to be a world beater.
Ajax are chasing Bailey and may catch him
They can offer the money for what we paid after they have sold Antony. We may be seeing Bailey leave which is discouraging.
Bailey's agent and dad comments are telling as he looks to engineer a way out for LB.
Ajax are chasing Bailey and may catch him
They can offer the money for what we paid after they have sold Antony. We may be seeing Bailey leave which is discouraging.
Bailey's agent and dad comments are telling as he looks to engineer a way out for LB.
I'd be pretty upset if he left, but I can't blame him. Management here does not have a clue where we're going or how we get there.. and Ajax is a well-oiled machine. They allow Antony to fly up and down the flank in their 4-3-3 and Leon will surely flourish there.
If he goes, someone should be held responsible for poor recruitment. To bring in an out and out winger and not play with wings is malpractice.
Ajax are chasing Bailey and may catch him
They can offer the money for what we paid after they have sold Antony. We may be seeing Bailey leave which is discouraging.
Bailey's agent and dad comments are telling as he looks to engineer a way out for LB.
I'd be pretty upset if he left, but I can't blame him. Management here does not have a clue where we're going or how we get there.. and Ajax is a well-oiled machine. They allow Antony to fly up and down the flank in their 4-3-3 and Leon will surely flourish there.
If he goes, someone should be held responsible for poor recruitment. To bring in an out and out winger and not play with wings is malpractice.
This is what happens when the idea of continuity is thrown out.
.
“Currently the system at Aston Villa is not using wingers, which puts Leon in a difficult position & threatens to derail his personal goals & objectives.
At this time no one would be happy not being able to contribute significantly to their club’s victories, but more so when the club is not winning. So while this is my opinion & I have love & respect for such a historically great club as Villa, I’m not happy a fit & high-performing Leon is being sidelined. If things aren’t going to drastically change, Ajax could be an option.
Aston Villa has some work to do, but we moved to the club for a reason & we haven’t given up on the club yet, but things have to change.
A player that wins Belgian player of the year, makes European team of the year, wins goal of the season, & Bundesliga new player of the season is now on the bench in England? I don't think so..”
Leon’s Father/Agent,Not a happy camper.Quote“Currently the system at Aston Villa is not using wingers, which puts Leon in a difficult position & threatens to derail his personal goals & objectives.
At this time no one would be happy not being able to contribute significantly to their club’s victories, but more so when the club is not winning. So while this is my opinion & I have love & respect for such a historically great club as Villa, I’m not happy a fit & high-performing Leon is being sidelined. If things aren’t going to drastically change, Ajax could be an option.
Aston Villa has some work to do, but we moved to the club for a reason & we haven’t given up on the club yet, but things have to change.
A player that wins Belgian player of the year, makes European team of the year, wins goal of the season, & Bundesliga new player of the season is now on the bench in England? I don't think so..”
Yikes..
Ajax are chasing Bailey and may catch him
They can offer the money for what we paid after they have sold Antony. We may be seeing Bailey leave which is discouraging.
Bailey's agent and dad comments are telling as he looks to engineer a way out for LB.
I'd be pretty upset if he left, but I can't blame him. Management here does not have a clue where we're going or how we get there.. and Ajax is a well-oiled machine. They allow Antony to fly up and down the flank in their 4-3-3 and Leon will surely flourish there.
If he goes, someone should be held responsible for poor recruitment. To bring in an out and out winger and not play with wings is malpractice.
This is what happens when the idea of continuity is thrown out.
.
Continuity went out the window when Jack Grealish left. We signed Danny Ings straight away and Deano tried and failed to fit him in. We have been rudderless ever since (not Ings fault). Bringing in Coutinho when we were already struggling to accommodate Buendia was more of the same.
Unfortunately when we sack Gerrard his replacement is going to want even more control in the name of avoiding a relegation battle. The cycle starts again.
What a monumental bellend his dad is.
Bailey has loads of promise.
His dad is a prick.
We threw out 'the plan' for Gerrard so whichever plans we had for players (Smith alluded to this a lot) were just dumped I guess? Maybe the Villa owners have been a touch impatient in all this. It has been a massive gamble to bring Gerrard in at the cost of ripping up what we had been doing to half decent effect - certainly better than at any previous time in the Premier League - previously.
He did all right yesterday but hardly put forward an unarguable case for why he should start.
Bit harsh on Buendia, he would be a great player in a better side.
Bit harsh on Buendia, he would be a great player in a better side.
I like Buendia, to the point where I wouldn't have brought Coutinho in permanently and given him more opportunities, but he's not had the impact we needed for the kind of money we paid for him.
Gerrard seems to be sabotaging his potential successor. Get rid of him now before he sells every winger at the club.
If we got our money back and a quality replacement in, I'd be quite happy to wave him and his dad tarrah a bit.
Gerrard seems to be sabotaging his potential successor. Get rid of him now before he sells every winger at the club.
I reckon he'll end up going with three centre halves, mark my words. The full back obsession almost demands it.
We'll sell all our wingers and end up with 5 at the back, and if that bloody hairline ever receded you'd see the mark of the beast on his head.
If we got our money back and a quality replacement in, I'd be quite happy to wave him and his dad tarrah a bit.
Yeah let's get rid of all the wingers we have at the club, sounds sensible...
Don't think I've been more excited at the prospect of buying a player to his distinctly meh Villa career since Tony Cascarino
Don't think I've been more excited at the prospect of buying a player to his distinctly meh Villa career since Tony Cascarino
I really did think though he might be a twat, N'Zogbia would be a good signing for us, lol.
If Sancho and Bailey are anything to go by, the German league must be an absolute piece of piss.
Bailey has loads of promise.
His dad is a prick.
Bailey has loads of promise.
His dad is a prick.
Succinct and to the point.
I'll raise you a Mustapha Hadji. I still think that prick O'Leary didn't give him enough of a chance.
Again on Sunday he attempted something, fucked it up and as soon as there were a few groans in the crowd looked to suddenly get an injury. The ball unexpectedly came back to him and he sprang back into life.
I wonder if there is a mental issue as well as a physical one where he is very nervous about playing rather than inspired
JJ is the one that looks hesitant or nervous to me. I haven't seen him dribble a ball more then 10yds this year - stark contrast to last season.
QuoteJJ is the one that looks hesitant or nervous to me. I haven't seen him dribble a ball more then 10yds this year - stark contrast to last season.
What about the first 5 minutes against Everton - he ran from his own half directly into their box and won a corner? I do agree the positioning of him is stopping a certain amount of his natural game
QuoteJJ is the one that looks hesitant or nervous to me. I haven't seen him dribble a ball more then 10yds this year - stark contrast to last season.
What about the first 5 minutes against Everton - he ran from his own half directly into their box and won a corner? I do agree the positioning of him is stopping a certain amount of his natural game
QuoteJJ is the one that looks hesitant or nervous to me. I haven't seen him dribble a ball more then 10yds this year - stark contrast to last season.
What about the first 5 minutes against Everton - he ran from his own half directly into their box and won a corner? I do agree the positioning of him is stopping a certain amount of his natural game
..and what about his performances against Bournemouth and Palace validate that single example?
QuoteJJ is the one that looks hesitant or nervous to me. I haven't seen him dribble a ball more then 10yds this year - stark contrast to last season.
What about the first 5 minutes against Everton - he ran from his own half directly into their box and won a corner? I do agree the positioning of him is stopping a certain amount of his natural game
..and what about his performances against Bournemouth and Palace validate that single example?
but you said you hadn't seen him dribble more than 10 yards, the existence of a single 60-70yard dribble proves you wrong, shifting the goalposts afterwards doesn't change that.
QuoteJJ is the one that looks hesitant or nervous to me. I haven't seen him dribble a ball more then 10yds this year - stark contrast to last season.
What about the first 5 minutes against Everton - he ran from his own half directly into their box and won a corner? I do agree the positioning of him is stopping a certain amount of his natural game
..and what about his performances against Bournemouth and Palace validate that single example?
but you said you hadn't seen him dribble more than 10 yards, the existence of a single 60-70yard dribble proves you wrong, shifting the goalposts afterwards doesn't change that.
;D
I was moreso alluding to the fact that he was valued here for his ability to carry the ball into the final third last season. Which we have rarely seen this year. I appreciate your careful lifeguarding of literal meanings on an online football forum. Jesus wept.
Again on Sunday he attempted something, fucked it up and as soon as there were a few groans in the crowd looked to suddenly get an injury. The ball unexpectedly came back to him and he sprang back into life.
On Bailey i agree with Hookey, when he starts games he's fine but when he gets subbed on he seems to need to 'feel the love' early on, if he gets tackled the first time he takes a pass he does seem to get a bit down on himself. I suspect he's just desperate to prove that the manager was wrong to not start him and gets into his head a little about it.
It most certainly did SirAgain on Sunday he attempted something, fucked it up and as soon as there were a few groans in the crowd looked to suddenly get an injury. The ball unexpectedly came back to him and he sprang back into life.
Well, that didn't happen.
On Bailey i agree with Hookey, when he starts games he's fine but when he gets subbed on he seems to need to 'feel the love' early on, if he gets tackled the first time he takes a pass he does seem to get a bit down on himself. I suspect he's just desperate to prove that the manager was wrong to not start him and gets into his head a little about it.
I absolutely agree with this.
He is clearly desperate to prove what he can do, and is one of the clearest examples of a confidence player I've seen in a long time.
I think they all lack confidence because the manager has lost his. We’re just pissing away valuable time now.Bang on.
Have to persevere with Bailey.I have my doubts he'll ever cut it at this level. Keep waiting for this pace he's famous for
Have to persevere with Bailey.I have my doubts he'll ever cut it at this level. Keep waiting for this pace he's famous for
I dont think we're narrow in the way insinuated. You'll notice at a number of junctures in games where we have 3 players stacked in a line wide, with no runners committing the opposition to spaces centrally. We invariably vacate the middle to go wide, but fail to overload, as we don't move in any particular pattern to create underlaps for example and if we do overlap, it's always, always a £30m winger or 10, passing it to a full back.
We invariably vacate the middle to go wide, but fail to overload, as we don't move in any particular pattern to create underlaps for example and if we do overlap, it's always, always a £30m winger or 10, passing it to a full back.
No, it's very deliberate.
Have to persevere with Bailey.I have my doubts he'll ever cut it at this level. Keep waiting for this pace he's famous for
There are glimpses and he has great balance when running with the ball, he just doesn’t seem brace enough to try to go past players.Have to persevere with Bailey.I have my doubts he'll ever cut it at this level. Keep waiting for this pace he's famous for
Had this feeling for a while, I havn't noticed him outpacing defenders.
Deliberate that they force wide and use the full back as the fulcrum. The patterns are there in every game. That's not coincidence. I don't think it works, but I also don't think it's a rabble either, it's a designed system that's failing.
Deliberate that they force wide and use the full back as the fulcrum. The patterns are there in every game. That's not coincidence. I don't think it works, but I also don't think it's a rabble either, it's a designed system that's failing.
I agree with this analysis. The pattern of play as been consistent and SG has convinced himself that it will come good.
Deliberate that they force wide and use the full back as the fulcrum. The patterns are there in every game. That's not coincidence. I don't think it works, but I also don't think it's a rabble either, it's a designed system that's failing.
I agree with this analysis. The pattern of play as been consistent and SG has convinced himself that it will come good.
And that it's the players who aren't doing their jobs properly...
McGinn 38 passes, 73.7% pass accuracyYes, so that makes about 26 inaccurate passes
Bailey 19 passes, 42.1% pass accuracy
10 inaccurate passes for McGinn and 11 for Bailey (a pass is a pass whether or not it is accurate). They both also lost the ball numerous times without passing it.McGinn 38 passes, 73.7% pass accuracyYes, so that makes about 26 inaccurate passes
Bailey 19 passes, 42.1% pass accuracy
10 inaccurate passes for McGinn and 11 for Bailey (a pass is a pass whether or not it is accurate). They both also lost the ball numerous times without passing it.McGinn 38 passes, 73.7% pass accuracyYes, so that makes about 26 inaccurate passes
Bailey 19 passes, 42.1% pass accuracy
Our style is so pedestrian there's just no pace about our play and nowhere for the ball to go.
Our style is so pedestrian there's just no pace about our play and nowhere for the ball to go.
Your right John, it’s rather sad, he’s obviously got loads of potential and has massive ability and has shown once or twice for us, but he had a terrible game last night.
This week we’ve see Traore having a blinder and Trez scoring a great goal. If you could combine Trez’s enthusiasm and nack for being in the right place, Bailey’s pace and Traore’s sublime maverick talent we’d have a genius.
Bailey clearly has shitloads of pace so not sure what you're on about. Pretty much every goal he has scored for us has been him outpacing defenders before scoring.Ah thought you'd pipe up.
Bailey clearly has shitloads of pace so not sure what you're on about. Pretty much every goal he has scored for us has been him outpacing defenders before scoring.
His delivery was poor, but we've got to be smarter in the way we get the best out of him or alternatively, if they're going to swamp him with a 2 or 3 man press (which they did consistently) then plan to exploit that vacant space. Ramsey and McGinn aren't the midfielders to do that and Ash isn't the dynamic full back Cash is to help.This.
His dad said he was man of the match
It would help if we didn't leave him fifty yards from the nearest player. We don't play with a target man so not sure what the point in playing a winger is under our current "tactics".
He nearly assisted with his right foot, leading to a Coutinho gial of the season contender! I'll take that and forget the running into trouble and blind alleys.
It would help if we didn't leave him fifty yards from the nearest player. We don't play with a target man so not sure what the point in playing a winger is under our current "tactics".
It would help if we didn't leave him fifty yards from the nearest player. We don't play with a target man so not sure what the point in playing a winger is under our current "tactics".
The point is that he could beat a man once in a while and pass the ball into the area. His one decent moment yesterday came when Leeds had ten men on the pitch. He's been an utter disaster of a signing. Along with Ings and to a lesser extent Buendia, we wasted every penny of the Grealish money.
We do seem to have tightened up at the back, but at the expense of their often being gaping chasms between our midfield and strikers.
What’s with his constant going backwards with the ball? Try and beat your opponent in a forward direction is what he should be doing.
He seems to allways receive the ball on the half turn towards our goal. Part of the problem is his initial run is not being played in.What’s with his constant going backwards with the ball? Try and beat your opponent in a forward direction is what he should be doing.
God knows. I honestly can't recall the last time I saw him beat a defender.
Awful yesterday. Passes when he should dribble and dribbles /sorry, attempts to dribble) when he should pass, often losing possession.
I would give him a run up top and just tell him to play on the shoulder. He's a really crap winger 90% of the time, but can finish quite well.
His dad really is a bellend.What’s he done now?
His dad really is a bellend.
His dad really is a bellend.
Has he said something about the entire team being set up so his son doesn't look completely shit every time he plays, again?
He was decent first half as was the whole team. Why can’t we play like that first half and show that sort of buzz and zip every week?
We’d have won far more than we have lost.
He was our best attacking player by miles today.A low bar.
His header was difficult!Isn't that what the Premier League is about - making the best of difficult situations?
Disgraced himself tonight.
The pelters I took on here months ago for calling out this CNZ tribute act .
It's no secret that I think he's a total fanny and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. He's got no commitment and is weaker than Stuart Downing. He can fuck off with his Dad in the Summer.
It hasn't "gone wrong" yet. Clean slate for everyone now, IMO. A few wins, a bit of confidence, and a vaguely competent manager with a basic grasp of how formations work, and who knows.
We have to pick eleven players plus subs, mate. I know you think that about 80% of them are "shit" even though the vast majority have shown otherwise many times before being managed by Gerrard (and, sometimes, even under Gerrard). So, it's probably best to hope that some of our underperforming players improve rather than just giving up on them all when we can't sign any replacements until January at the earliest anyway.
Let's see. He might surprise you.
Well, he didn't plenty of that in Bundesliga, I assume. We didn't sign him on the basis of a bushtucker trial.
I've never seen him have a good game for us.
I've never seen him have a good game for us.
The first one?
I've never seen him have a good game for us.
With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Might be Watkins.With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
Might be Watkins.With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
Or Cash but after that I'm struggling as well.Might be Watkins.With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
Watkins isn't slow, but he's not especially quick either.
With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
As it stands, Bailey has the 6th highest top speed on the league.
If you don’t think Bailey and Watkins are fast.. I don’t know, I can’t help you see I guess.
With two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
As it stands, Bailey has the 6th highest top speed on the league.
If you don’t think Bailey and Watkins are fast.. I don’t know, I can’t help you see I guess.
I don't really need you to help me see thanks, them beating a player for pace just once this season might be a pointer though.
We could do with them being good with the ball too a bit more often than they areWith two of the fastest players in the league SG never played to their strengths.
Well I don't agree that Bailey is quick, but I'm really struggling to think who the other one could be, as we've nobody else with any pace at all.
As it stands, Bailey has the 6th highest top speed on the league.
If you don’t think Bailey and Watkins are fast.. I don’t know, I can’t help you see I guess.
Bailey has many limitations. Thus far, at least. But no idea why people want to pretend a lack of pace is one of them. It's like logging onto H&V in 2004 to find everyone bemoaning Peter Crouch's lack of height.This again. Where is the pace? It certainly isn't apparent.Maybe watch him and his movement in a match, you might change your mind.
Bailey has many limitations. Thus far, at least. But no idea why people want to pretend a lack of pace is one of them. It's like logging onto H&V in 2004 to find everyone bemoaning Peter Crouch's lack of height.This again. Where is the pace? It certainly isn't apparent.Maybe watch him and his movement in a match, you might change your mind.
Ouch. You crazy,crazy hipster.Bailey has many limitations. Thus far, at least. But no idea why people want to pretend a lack of pace is one of them. It's like logging onto H&V in 2004 to find everyone bemoaning Peter Crouch's lack of height.This again. Where is the pace? It certainly isn't apparent.Maybe watch him and his movement in a match, you might change your mind.
In his legs, funnily enough. I'll ignore the rest of your drivel.
I'd rather Demarai Gray for £1.5m.
He gets the benefit of the doubt until a decent stint under a new manager.
One of the weakest, least competitive players I've ever seen. Piss poor.
One of the weakest, least competitive players I've ever seen. Piss poor.
It’s a no from me, unless a different system sparks something that we haven’t see yet.
Yes indeed. Noticeably low volume of posts on thi sthread after a week of saying that he's not good enough. He was everything we want to see in the first half, decisive, direct a goal and an assist. It would be nice to hear from some of you that have been saying he isn't capable of those performances...
He looked miles better on the left. When he's on the right, the defender can just show him inside every time and it slows us down. Today he pinged that brilliant ball in for Watkins that went behind the Brentford defence. He wouldn't have been able to do that with his right foot, I don't think.agreed - when on the right he has to slow it down to cut inside. A proper left winger.
That left foot is like Thor's hammer when the ball's rolled across.And did he hit that, wam.
Yup - so noticeable from the start today - being on the left seemed to give him the confidence to take defenders on ... and he was tracking back reasonably effectively too.He looked miles better on the left. When he's on the right, the defender can just show him inside every time and it slows us down. Today he pinged that brilliant ball in for Watkins that went behind the Brentford defence. He wouldn't have been able to do that with his right foot, I don't think.agreed - when on the right he has to slow it down to cut inside. A proper left winger.
Comes across really well in this post match interview
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1584268671483985921?s=61&t=_awQtJPyLrCBCtewK3rEDQ
Way better on the left. Long may it continueI think Ashley Young was a big part of this. He was always talking to him - keeping him switched on and involved.
He looked pretty pacey in his run for the 4th
:)
He looked pretty pacey in his run for the 4th
:)
It is when he is running back he looks like he is injured :D
Way better on the left. Long may it continueI think Ashley Young was a big part of this. He was always talking to him - keeping him switched on and involved.
I would love to see him go past defenders even more when he isolates them 1v1 - he has a tendency to turn back and gets crowded out of possession. UTV
It’s very obvious he should play on the left. On the left today he did brilliantly to produce a chance that Emi should have done better with.
Four Premier League goals, one each under Smith, Gerrard, Danks and Emery.
Has to be a record of some sort. Let's hope it ends at four.
Four Premier League goals, one each under Smith, Gerrard, Danks and Emery.All at the Holte End aswell.
Has to be a record of some sort. Let's hope it ends at four.
The composure and movement for that goal, top class.
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
His goal yesterday and the one against Everton show how to finish one on one against the keeper. Perhaps he could give Ollie a few tips?.
His goal yesterday and the one against Everton show how to finish one on one against the keeper. Perhaps he could give Ollie a few tips?.
Twat it as hard as you can? (having a left foot helps, too).
His goal yesterday and the one against Everton show how to finish one on one against the keeper. Perhaps he could give Ollie a few tips?.
Twat it as hard as you can? (having a left foot helps, too).
Just warm up those hamstrings first
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
I think they compliment each other pretty well in a system where movement is more important than positions. Bailey is a better finisher and makes some fantastic runs off the ball and Watkins has the industry and hussle to create gaps for those runs in dangerous areas. With 2 from Buendia, Ramsey, Coutinho, McGinn working with them I think we can be really dangerous but we need to work out how Ings and Arhcer fit into this as well.
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
I think they compliment each other pretty well in a system where movement is more important than positions. Bailey is a better finisher and makes some fantastic runs off the ball and Watkins has the industry and hussle to create gaps for those runs in dangerous areas. With 2 from Buendia, Ramsey, Coutinho, McGinn working with them I think we can be really dangerous but we need to work out how Ings and Arhcer fit into this as well.
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
I think they compliment each other pretty well in a system where movement is more important than positions. Bailey is a better finisher and makes some fantastic runs off the ball and Watkins has the industry and hussle to create gaps for those runs in dangerous areas. With 2 from Buendia, Ramsey, Coutinho, McGinn working with them I think we can be really dangerous but we need to work out how Ings and Arhcer fit into this as well.
Putting it like that with more mobility seems we have more options with the same set of players.
Watkins played as well yesterday as I've seen since his first season without even getting close to a chance on goal, but his performance opened up the spaces for everyone else.
I'd say he looks a better forward than he does a winger to be honest. His shooting is first rate, and he looks better running onto balls near the area than he does taking people on from the wings.
I think they compliment each other pretty well in a system where movement is more important than positions. Bailey is a better finisher and makes some fantastic runs off the ball and Watkins has the industry and hussle to create gaps for those runs in dangerous areas. With 2 from Buendia, Ramsey, Coutinho, McGinn working with them I think we can be really dangerous but we need to work out how Ings and Arhcer fit into this as well.
Watkins played as well yesterday as I've seen since his first season without even getting close to a chance on goal, but his performance opened up the spaces for everyone else.
It was his best performance for ages. He even managed to not look pissed off that somebody had else had scored instead of him!Yes I noticed that he was more animated. And bothered to go over to Bailey.
When he's at his best, it's like there's two of him. He's going to shine under this manager, I have no doubts about that.
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
speaking of the Holte, I quite like us attacking that end to start games
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run - superb
Watkins touch - not quite so superb
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run - superb
Watkins touch - not quite so superb
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run - superb
Watkins touch - not quite so superb
Like a horse trying to control a beachball. Again.
Bailey runYes that's the playbI was talking about!
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Yes, he looked a clumsy oaf but, to be fair to him, looked the complete opposite for his goal.
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run - superb
Watkins touch - not quite so superb
Like a horse trying to control a beachball. Again.
Yes, he looked a clumsy oaf but, to be fair to him, looked the complete opposite for his goal.
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run - superb
Watkins touch - not quite so superb
Like a horse trying to control a beachball. Again.
Yes, he looked a clumsy oaf but, to be fair to him, looked the complete opposite for his goal.
It would be absolute fucking insanity to sell him in january. It was blindingly obvious what his problem was up to now. I've total faith in emery to get the best out of him.
Bailey run
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590831448801837056
Bailey run - superb
Watkins touch - not quite so superb
After that he went down clutching his leg. A tad embarrassed more than injured. It reminded me of a school cup game 30 year ago and a player missed an absolute sitter. He went down and blamed an imaginary crater in the floor.
Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....
Based upon his agent’s behavior in the past, he doesn’t strike me as a future Villa legend. Perhaps he’s one to sell whilst his stock is high (in the summer)
Yeah, right now we'd be lucky to get what we paid for him. Give it 18 months under Emery and we could probably double it (if we even wanted to sell)Based upon his agent’s behavior in the past, he doesn’t strike me as a future Villa legend. Perhaps he’s one to sell whilst his stock is high (in the summer)
No way I'd let him go. Just showing the exciting potential we all knew was there. He'll thrive under Emery.
Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....It’s just the usual Birmingham Mail/Live becoming agents for our players as soon as they start showing the slightest bit of form. Luiz to Arsenal/half the world. Still. Even with the contract signed 17 seconds ago. McGinn to Mna Utd has gone quiet. As has Martinez to Man Utd. Coutinho to Newcastle. Ramsey to Liverpool will pop up again soon. It’s more clickbait garbage.
why does any one take any notice of this bollocks?Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....It’s just the usual Birmingham Mail/Live becoming agents for our players as soon as they start showing the slightest bit of form. Luiz to Arsenal/half the world. Still. Even with the contract signed 17 seconds ago. McGinn to Mna Utd has gone quiet. As has Martinez to Man Utd. Coutinho to Newcastle. Ramsey to Liverpool will pop up again soon. It’s more clickbait garbage.
Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....
Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....
not a bad rumor if it helps pay to get Grealish back.
He can F@ck right off!!!Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....
not a bad rumor if it helps pay to get Grealish back. The only things I will miss will be the 5 or 6 cameo moments and a rather good chant.
He can F@ck right off!!!Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....
not a bad rumor if it helps pay to get Grealish back. The only things I will miss will be the 5 or 6 cameo moments and a rather good chant.
He had his chance.
not a bad rumor if it helps pay to get Grealish back. The only things I will miss will be the 5 or 6 cameo moments and a rather good chant.And the connection between JG and Bailey is what exactly?
YepHe can F@ck right off!!!Some rumours circling that Chelsea are interested in signing Leon should Pulisic decide not to extend his contract? Just when he's finally showing his true potential for Villa. Hopefully the rumours are untrue....
not a bad rumor if it helps pay to get Grealish back. The only things I will miss will be the 5 or 6 cameo moments and a rather good chant.
He had his chance.
Agreed.
Maybe a few people need to watch his antics, last game of the season against us.
Isnt grealish on a long deal and £300k+ per week? Underwhat circumstances would we get him - is he realistically going to take a big wage cut because I dont think we should yie that much of outwage bill in him.
We're not a rest home!
He’s done an interview apparently. The gist of which is we should be grateful to have him as even though he did nothing last season he had a chance to join bigger clubs. This was also the case before he landed at little old Villa.
Maybe a few people need to watch his antics, last game of the season against us.He had just won the league for the first time, is it really that hard to understand he was happy with that? It was a dead rubber game for us, so they'd hardly inflicted a disaster upon us.
Maybe a few people need to watch his antics, last game of the season against us.He had just won the league for the first time, is it really that hard to understand he was happy with that? It was a dead rubber game for us, so they'd hardly inflicted a disaster upon us.
It amazes me football fans demand almost robotic behavoiur from young men living a dream existence and and going through huge emotional swings.
Not really. I would have thought most ought to be capable of rational thought months after the event though.Maybe a few people need to watch his antics, last game of the season against us.He had just won the league for the first time, is it really that hard to understand he was happy with that? It was a dead rubber game for us, so they'd hardly inflicted a disaster upon us.
It amazes me football fans demand almost robotic behavoiur from young men living a dream existence and and going through huge emotional swings.
And yet you appear to be demanding robotic behaviour from supporters who are far more emotionally invested in the team than any player.
The day I think rationally about the Villa is the day I'll give up.
The day I think rationally about the Villa is the day I'll give up.
Exactly Dave.
He's taken it hard by the looks of it.
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He looked out of gas the entire game.
His miss at the end summed Villa up, we were dreadful. A point gained.
He's taken it hard by the looks of it.
(https://i.ibb.co/HBb86gm/Screenshot-20230104-222113-Instagram.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HBb86gm)
He's been poor since the World Cup break. His shambolic misses against Liverpool and again tonight, poor decision making generally and seeming inability to use his right foot... What really irritated me most was his attitude in just letting Podence (I think it was) run right off him leading to a two on one for another of our players as Wolves then scored, just pointing to Luca Digne to deal with it as his response to their move. You cannot do that at the highest level and it was this that concerned me more than his recent misses. If he doesn't improve that side of his game Emery will have him out of the club. We cannot afford to carry any players.
He's been poor since the World Cup break. His shambolic misses against Liverpool and again tonight, poor decision making generally and seeming inability to use his right foot... What really irritated me most was his attitude in just letting Podence (I think it was) run right off him leading to a two on one for another of our players as Wolves then scored, just pointing to Luca Digne to deal with it as his response to their move. You cannot do that at the highest level and it was this that concerned me more than his recent misses. If he doesn't improve that side of his game Emery will have him out of the club. We cannot afford to carry any players.
I agree, and we're carrying too many players. Buendia, Courtinho and Bailey just don't do it often enough.
I love him when he's on form, but when he's bad he's fucking shite.
Exactly like Traore. Also like El Ghazi, too for that matter (although very good rather than magnificent).
I agree with that, but ultimately, this isn't some kids team where we're 'all winners', he's got to start delivering, and he's spent too much time not doing that.
All of these players are adjusting under the new manager. One that wants to coach and improve them. Leon clearly takes things to heart when he plays badly and you see that feels he let everyone down tonight. He has to find a more consistent level of play. As has been pointed out he blows very hot and then very cold. If he achieves a level that makes him highly reliable he will have a very good career.
I agree with that, but ultimately, this isn't some kids team where we're 'all winners', he's got to start delivering, and he's spent too much time not doing that.
I feel sorry for him tonight after that miss, he is quite clearly missing, and I think he is very much a confidence player, but it is ultimately on him to improve. The coaches can work with him on that, but he just needs to start at the emotional level.
not as easy as I thoughtAll of these players are adjusting under the new manager. One that wants to coach and improve them. Leon clearly takes things to heart when he plays badly and you see that feels he let everyone down tonight. He has to find a more consistent level of play. As has been pointed out he blows very hot and then very cold. If he achieves a level that makes him highly reliable he will have a very good career.
Agree with this. Yes, he's very frustrating but when he signed I was afraid he might turn out to be a 'Big Time Charlie' so I like the fact that he's taken it to heart.
Having seen it on MOTD I don't the chance was as easy as some were making out here. The keeper made himself big and pushed him out wide and he was trying to dig out from under his feet with a covering defender. Even if he'd got it on target it would have been tricky to get enough power on it to beat the defender.
Exactly like Traore. Also like El Ghazi, too for that matter (although very good rather than magnificent).
It's a winger thing
It's a terrible thing to lose
Exactly like Traore. Also like El Ghazi, too for that matter (although very good rather than magnificent).
It's a winger thing
It's a terrible thing to lose
El Ghazi was never a winger.
We used to have the same issue with Tony Daley. Fantastic at times but inconsistent as hell in many a game - and I loved the bloke.
I like Bailey because wingers are my favourite type of player but the one of the main differences between him and Tony Daley is comparative pace. Daley was so much faster than defenders it looked like they were standing still so he could push the ball past them and be sure of getting to it. Defenders now are fitter and more athletic so Bailey can't do this so much despite probably having a similar top speed.We used to have the same issue with Tony Daley. Fantastic at times but inconsistent as hell in many a game - and I loved the bloke.
I said to a mate on Sunday. He is like Tony Daley in this respect.
His right foot is for standing on only but the explosiveness as per the obligatory YouTube clips from Leverkusen seems to have disappeared. Needs to physically get stronger to retain possession better.Not altogether surprising considering he got pretty seriously injured twice last year as a result of that explosiveness (one of the times, incidentally, when tracking back, so I'm not sure it's fair to describe him as lazy, as someone did on here last night i recall). I suspect that he still doesn't fully trust his body to hold up at full throttle.
What's happened to his shooting? He had those two laughably bad attempts against Liverpool, can't remember any attempts against Spurs, then that atrocious miss last night. We need better from our supporting attacking players.
His right foot is for standing on only but the explosiveness as per the obligatory YouTube clips from Leverkusen seems to have disappeared. Needs to physically get stronger to retain possession better.Not altogether surprising considering he got pretty seriously injured twice last year as a result of that explosiveness (one of the times, incidentally, when tracking back, so I'm not sure it's fair to describe him as lazy, as someone did on here last night i recall). I suspect that he still doesn't fully trust his body to hold up at full throttle.
He was poor last night, albeit better in the second half, but he wasn't the only one.
What's happened to his shooting? He had those two laughably bad attempts against Liverpool, can't remember any attempts against Spurs, then that atrocious miss last night. We need better from our supporting attacking players.His goal at home this season against Man City was a great finish
There is obvious talent there, he has a turn of pace, quick feet and great balance and has also shown some lovely finishing.
His decision making makes Sterling look like a footballing Einstein.
Mercurial.
There is obvious talent there, he has a turn of pace, quick feet and great balance and has also shown some lovely finishing.I don't think he has that either.
His decision making makes Sterling look like a footballing Einstein.
Mercurial.
There is obvious talent there, he has a turn of pace, quick feet and great balance and has also shown some lovely finishing.
His decision making makes Sterling look like a footballing Einstein.
Mercurial.
Sometimes he appears quick, but a lot of times, like last night, not even moderately quick. He's another one I'd bench for Sunday.
Sometimes he appears quick, but a lot of times, like last night, not even moderately quick. He's another one I'd bench for Sunday.
I think part of it is him being on the right. When you really see a players pace is when they're running in behind the defence but because he knows he needs to cut inside he never opens up, instead letting the defender get in front of him and then trying to square them up.
They've just had oneSometimes he appears quick, but a lot of times, like last night, not even moderately quick. He's another one I'd bench for Sunday.
I think part of it is him being on the right. When you really see a players pace is when they're running in behind the defence but because he knows he needs to cut inside he never opens up, instead letting the defender get in front of him and then trying to square them up.
it might be as you say. Even so, like a few of them, more than a few actually they look like they need a rest.
Like many I was frustrated with him and would have taken him off, but in reality I put my trust in Emery,who will sort it out one way or another,,he has been only here for a few weeks and need to be patience
He had plenty of pace and balance when he skinned a couple of players down the left wing to tee up Watkins vs Brentford. We hadn't seen wing play like that for years. There are other examples too. He's inconsistent but he's not lacking the attributes he needs. Whether he can add the consistency and increase his output/goal contributions remains to be seen but if he doesn't, he will lose his starting spot.brother said he was playing wrong side of pitch
If the opportunity had been on the other side we’d have 24 points right now. It was very fast, a defender draped all over him, a keeper racing out in the last seconds of the game on his weaker side. Maybe he should have scored but it’s been made out by some like it was an open net. It wasn’t.
If the opportunity had been on the other side we’d have 24 points right now. It was very fast, a defender draped all over him, a keeper racing out in the last seconds of the game on his weaker side. Maybe he should have scored but it’s been made out by some like it was an open net. It wasn’t.
It as a bad miss for a Premier League striker, at the very least he should have got it on target.
Thinking back, he should have done better with that chance he created early in the first half as well. It was a naff finish.
If the opportunity had been on the other side we’d have 24 points right now. It was very fast, a defender draped all over him, a keeper racing out in the last seconds of the game on his weaker side. Maybe he should have scored but it’s been made out by some like it was an open net. It wasn’t.
It as a bad miss for a Premier League striker, at the very least he should have got it on target.
He’s not really a striker though, and I’ve seen actual PL strikers miss easier chances.
If the opportunity had been on the other side we’d have 24 points right now. It was very fast, a defender draped all over him, a keeper racing out in the last seconds of the game on his weaker side. Maybe he should have scored but it’s been made out by some like it was an open net. It wasn’t.
It as a bad miss for a Premier League striker, at the very least he should have got it on target.
He’s not really a striker though, and I’ve seen actual PL strikers miss easier chances.
I think that’s splitting hairs, he’s in the team to score goals. From the Lower Holte I had a really good view and he just completely fluffed it. His own reaction at the final whistle shows that the player himself knows he should have done better.
He gets it on target and there's more than a 70% chance he scores. Even the defender wouldn't have covered the post or might have shinned it in.
He gets it on target and there's more than a 70% chance he scores. Even the defender wouldn't have covered the post or might have shinned it in.
I actually think it’s the other way round.
70% the defender stops it.
He’s done some spectacular things that will get you out of your seat, I love players like that
But in the main his decision making and end product have been poor and make him a frustrating player to watch
has had some great performances, but he’s far too inconsistent for me at the moment
Anyone would think his miss was like this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBFS20wGd04
Leon obviously having a struggle and he should be supported because hes a very good player.He’s really clearly not Footie. A man with your higher level knowledge of football should be able to see it. It feels like we’ve played the last two games with 10 men. He gives nothing does nothing and worse seems to make no apology for being so. The tears on Wednesday were most likely in fear of his dad’s reaction
It was disappointing his performance , shooting and movement and maybe he has something impacting him to be 100%
I back him to come good versus Leeds.
Modern day Sasa CurcicWorse still. Bosco Balaban came to mind when I was watching him today. Plays like a competition winner.
How many cousins has George Weah got?After that debacle today, that did at least make me smile.
There were comparisons to Tony Daley early in the week. I apologise to Tony Daley after watching Bailey today.
I agree I think he needs a break. Although I do find it odd that some see things as black and white, essentially players have to be consistently good or sold. Bailey is going through a tough time I wouldn’t write him off.
I agree I think he needs a break. Although I do find it odd that some see things as black and white, essentially players have to be consistently good or sold. Bailey is going through a tough time I wouldn’t write him off.
We do need them to be consistently good though, as that's what holds us back and stops us being a top half team. He's not even consistently average with a few good games sprinkled in, most of the time he provides absolutely bugger all. Then he'll score a good goal in the 9th or 10th game, and somehow all is forgotten. It's not remotely good enough, and Bailey is the player who needs replacing the most urgently.
I agree I think he needs a break. Although I do find it odd that some see things as black and white, essentially players have to be consistently good or sold. Bailey is going through a tough time I wouldn’t write him off.
We do need them to be consistently good though, as that's what holds us back and stops us being a top half team. He's not even consistently average with a few good games sprinkled in, most of the time he provides absolutely bugger all. Then he'll score a good goal in the 9th or 10th game, and somehow all is forgotten. It's not remotely good enough, and Bailey is the player who needs replacing the most urgently.
There were comparisons to Tony Daley early in the week. I apologise to Tony Daley after watching Bailey today.
Frankly, I'd rather we gave the shirt 55 year-old Tony Daley.
There were comparisons to Tony Daley early in the week. I apologise to Tony Daley after watching Bailey today.
Frankly, I'd rather we gave the shirt 55 year-old Tony Daley.
Have you seen how Daley looks? Ripped more than most footballers half his age. "He's got muscles on muscles" as I once overheard a coach describe a player built like a tank.
He's got to be looking at flights to Turkey, surely?He can drop off Dendonker Olsen Coutinho Ings Bailey and Cash on the way.
A waste of space.
He's got to be looking at flights to Turkey, surely?He can drop off Dendonker Olsen Coutinho Ings Bailey and Cash on the way.
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I agree I think he needs a break. Although I do find it odd that some see things as black and white, essentially players have to be consistently good or sold. Bailey is going through a tough time I wouldn’t write him off.
We do need them to be consistently good though, as that's what holds us back and stops us being a top half team. He's not even consistently average with a few good games sprinkled in, most of the time he provides absolutely bugger all. Then he'll score a good goal in the 9th or 10th game, and somehow all is forgotten. It's not remotely good enough, and Bailey is the player who needs replacing the most urgently.I agree I think he needs a break. Although I do find it odd that some see things as black and white, essentially players have to be consistently good or sold. Bailey is going through a tough time I wouldn’t write him off.
We do need them to be consistently good though, as that's what holds us back and stops us being a top half team. He's not even consistently average with a few good games sprinkled in, most of the time he provides absolutely bugger all. Then he'll score a good goal in the 9th or 10th game, and somehow all is forgotten. It's not remotely good enough, and Bailey is the player who needs replacing the most urgently.
Disagree - I get the point, I do, but I’m not writing him off. I think there’s a player there and there’s plenty I’d want gone before him. All about opinions though.
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That has raised my first smile since about 6.30 last night.
He's got to be looking at flights to Turkey, surely?
I commented to friends at half time yesterday that after Wolves it appears Leon has swapped his Wednesday Toblerone boots for some Sunday clown shoes. The annoying thing is you can see when he gets the ball he knows what he wants to do, he just can’t seem to get his legs and feet to follow culminating in miscontrols, dispossessions, appalling off target shots and general shitness. To be fair he isn’t hiding from the ball but he isn’t exactly endearing himself to the supporters with his current lack of end product.
The pace of the game seems too much for him most weeks. Even last night! Players coming from other leagues sometimes are able to get used to it and flourish, but I’m not holding my breath he will. What would we get if we sold him? Less than what we paid I’d have thought.
I lose track, but is Bertie still on our books? If he is I'd get him back, because he always offered a lot more than anything I've seen from Bailey.
I lose track, but is Bertie still on our books? If he is I'd get him back, because he always offered a lot more than anything I've seen from Bailey.
I lose track, but is Bertie still on our books? If he is I'd get him back, because he always offered a lot more than anything I've seen from Bailey.
He drove me mad at times, but he could at least beat a player. Bailey doesn't provide any more defensive stability, either.
Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
There was an article on Twitter the other day about an old fella that had single handedly turned a barren stretch of land in Turkey into a forest
Posts like this are why I spend so much time on H&V.Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
Can they be pulled up though?Posts like this are why I spend so much time on H&V.Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
However you want to look at the stats, Turkey clearly has numerically far more trees than the UK, surely that's thekey point here?Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
The UK is a lot smaller than Turkey, so unless you give us the total hectares of the UK, this stats is pish.
Not really, it's pretty meaningless. It's like saying America has more trees than the Isle of Man.However you want to look at the stats, Turkey clearly has numerically far more trees than the UK, surely that's thekey point here?Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
The UK is a lot smaller than Turkey, so unless you give us the total hectares of the UK, this stat is pish.
Probably one of the best meanderings off topic here, and it hasn't even turned into a pun-fest.
I bet it does though. Yew'll see.
But even so Turkey appears to have approx 29.5% tree coverage. I would say more than sufficient for Bertie to find some and pull them up if he wanted to, don't you think?Not really, it's pretty meaningless. It's like saying America has more trees than the Isle of Man.However you want to look at the stats, Turkey clearly has numerically far more trees than the UK, surely that's the key point here?Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
The UK is a lot smaller than Turkey, so unless you give us the total hectares of the UK, this stat is pish.
But even so Turkey appears to have approx 29.5% tree coverage. I would say more than sufficient for Bertie to find some and pull them up if he wanted to, don't you think?Not really, it's pretty meaningless. It's like saying America has more trees than the Isle of Man.However you want to look at the stats, Turkey clearly has numerically far more trees than the UK, surely that's the key point here?Doesn't seem to be pulling up many trees in Turkey based on his stats (not sure if trees grow in Turkey but).
Trees cover 23 million of Turkey's 78 million hectares. In comparison, the UK has 3.23 million hectares of woodland, so I'd say yes they do.
As you were.
The UK is a lot smaller than Turkey, so unless you give us the total hectares of the UK, this stat is pish.
24.361 million hectares. So Turkey has about 30% coverage, we're down around 13%.
I imagine you'd be interested to note that the 'Turkey oak' was introduced to the UK in the 1700s and is now impacting our native oak populations. It’s less valuable to wildlife, but much faster growing and a host of the knopper oak gall wasp.24.361 million hectares. So Turkey has about 30% coverage, we're down around 13%.
Thank you! I knew someone would conker it.
Those useless trees produce the air that I am breathing.
I imagine you'd be interested to note that the 'Turkey oak' was introduced to the UK in the 1700s and is now impacting our native oak populations. It’s less valuable to wildlife, but much faster growing and a host of the knopper oak gall wasp.24.361 million hectares. So Turkey has about 30% coverage, we're down around 13%.
Thank you! I knew someone would conker it.
Is it timber to leaf this alone as we have grained all we can and could be barking up the wrong tree.I imagine you'd be interested to note that the 'Turkey oak' was introduced to the UK in the 1700s and is now impacting our native oak populations. It’s less valuable to wildlife, but much faster growing and a host of the knopper oak gall wasp.24.361 million hectares. So Turkey has about 30% coverage, we're down around 13%.
Thank you! I knew someone would conker it.
Coming over here... replacing good, honest, hard working British oak.
Those useless trees produce the air that I am breathing.
Those useless trees they never said that you were leaving.
I imagine you'd be interested to note that the 'Turkey oak' was introduced to the UK in the 1700s and is now impacting our native oak populations. It’s less valuable to wildlife, but much faster growing and a host of the knopper oak gall wasp.24.361 million hectares. So Turkey has about 30% coverage, we're down around 13%.
Thank you! I knew someone would conker it.
Coming over here... replacing good, honest, hard working British oak.
Like all flair inspired tricky players they have the tendency to hold the ball a little too long and eventually lose it - this causes the crowd to collectively groan and their confidence gets shot.
I think we need to persevere with him as there is a player in there. As other posters have said - he needs to relax a little and be more of a team player with a bit more pass and go.
Well i have kept off this particular thread because i thought it would be a Bailey onslaughtHe doesn't like playing against a (wil)low block.
Looks more like Tree-son to me me
He needs to play on the left. He might prefer being on the right but we’ve seen most of his best stuff when attacking the right side of the defence. He gets the ball tied up in his feet way too much trying to cut inside.
Unfortunately he has a dodgy copy of Raheem Stirlings footballing brain that someone bought off a Petticoat Lane market stall.We literally seem like we have (at least) one for every letter in the alphabet
I have seen enough to put him on the list of players that need to be moved on if we want to achieve our stated ambition.
It’s a pretty long list.
I stand by this: he needs to start making much more of a contribution or he'll be ghosted in the summer.As I followed up - the situation is what it is and he is firing duds so shouldn't be in the starting XI. As we found out with Traore last season, the Premier league game requires all players to do a little of everything, and playing Bailey does not serve the team well right now.We bought a dud.Ridiculously early to be writing him off, even by Villa misery arse standards.
We'd be better off playing Bidace wide left or right: at least we'd get some energy.
Be less shit. Enough said.
The class is there. If Unai can harness it correctly (i.e. cutting out the sloppiness closer to our box) then he'll be a major asset. We'd be in a much poorer position without the points he's got us so far this season.
Such an infuriating player. Great goal tonight, and some good play, but also so many times on the break he slows up and runs into a defender, losing the ball.Exactly. He obviously had a big hand in why we won, but on several occasions he was unnecessarily wasteful and makes poor decisions when he has more time.
Such an infuriating player. Great goal tonight, and some good play, but also so many times on the break he slows up and runs into a defender, losing the ball.Exactly. He obviously had a big hand in why we won, but on several occasions he was unnecessarily wasteful and makes poor decisions when he has more time.
The one that frustrated me was about midway through the 2nd half where the ball bounced for him to chase and he burned the defender, got to the ball with space and then slowed down to dribble past the defender that wouldn't have got anywhere near him if he'd just knocked the ball into space and ran onto it. He definitely has the pace to really hurt teams but seems to not want to use it, it's really frustrating.
Such an infuriating player. Great goal tonight, and some good play, but also so many times on the break he slows up and runs into a defender, losing the ball.
Didn't Benteke hit the gound running? That's how I remember it. Not that my memory should be in any way relied on.
Didn't Benteke hit the gound running? That's how I remember it. Not that my memory should be in any way relied on.
Scores on his debut and then missed a good few sitters. I think people queries why Bent was getting in ahead of him. Came really good around the February of that season, I think, as did Delph
we was a pretty poor side until the later part of that season, which didn't help him.
Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Totally agree.
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Agree
Benteke in his prime for us is possibly the best Centre Forward I’ve seen at Villa
He’d be fighting that out with Keith Leonard and Andy Gray
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Agree
Benteke in his prime for us is possibly the best Centre Forward I’ve seen at Villa
He’d be fighting that out with Keith Leonard and Andy Gray
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Agree
Benteke in his prime for us is possibly the best Centre Forward I’ve seen at Villa
He’d be fighting that out with Keith Leonard and Andy Gray
Yep Benteke burned bright for a short time, but in that time he was incredible.
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Agree
Benteke in his prime for us is possibly the best Centre Forward I’ve seen at Villa
He’d be fighting that out with Keith Leonard and Andy Gray
Yep Benteke burned bright for a short time, but in that time he was incredible.
Three seasons is hardly a short time. Andy Gray was here for not much longer.
Christian Benteke in his prime is one of my most treasured Villa memories from a long lifetime of being a Villa fan.
Totally agree.
The most complete all-round performance from a Villa centre-forward I've ever seen was his hat-trick against QPR.
Wasn't it his performance at Anfield when we won 3-1 just before Xmas 2012 (and just before our horrific month of results) where he ripped Liverpool apart, that announced his prowess?
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Have to disagree Bren. It's a tough one because he has ultimately scored a goal and played a part in the other, but he continues to give the ball away far too often and make really poor decisions which stunt our attacking play.
He's not the only one like that and if we are going to move on we are going to need better options in certain areas.
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Have to disagree Bren. It's a tough one because he has ultimately scored a goal and played a part in the other, but he continues to give the ball away far too often and make really poor decisions which stunt our attacking play.
He's not the only one like that and if we are going to move on we are going to need better options in certain areas.
If he gets it right a couple of times a game and that leads to 2 goals then I'm happy with him, every team outside the top handful in Europe can carry a maverick who's only job is to create a few key moments every game, it is really frustrating though.
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Have to disagree Bren. It's a tough one because he has ultimately scored a goal and played a part in the other, but he continues to give the ball away far too often and make really poor decisions which stunt our attacking play.
He's not the only one like that and if we are going to move on we are going to need better options in certain areas.
If he gets it right a couple of times a game and that leads to 2 goals then I'm happy with him, every team outside the top handful in Europe can carry a maverick who's only job is to create a few key moments every game, it is really frustrating though.
If a player does it pretty much every game then maybe so Paul, but how many goals has Leon Bailey scored in the 1 and a half seasons he has been with us?
He certainly has got talent and I think he could be a decent squad option, but I think we could do with a better and more consistent player in that position
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Have to disagree Bren. It's a tough one because he has ultimately scored a goal and played a part in the other, but he continues to give the ball away far too often and make really poor decisions which stunt our attacking play.
He's not the only one like that and if we are going to move on we are going to need better options in certain areas.
If he gets it right a couple of times a game and that leads to 2 goals then I'm happy with him, every team outside the top handful in Europe can carry a maverick who's only job is to create a few key moments every game, it is really frustrating though.
If a player does it pretty much every game then maybe so Paul, but how many goals has Leon Bailey scored in the 1 and a half seasons he has been with us?
He certainly has got talent and I think he could be a decent squad option, but I think we could do with a better and more consistent player in that position
Wasn't it his performance at Anfield when we won 3-1 just before Xmas 2012 (and just before our horrific month of results) where he ripped Liverpool apart, that announced his prowess?
Yes, and it was a few days after the Norwich game I mentioned.
I can well remember both me a Brian Green on here after the Norwich game saying he's the real deal.
He was good last night. My only issue with him is his reluctance to release the ball after he’s beaten the 2nd player when the opportunity presents itself as was the case last night on a few occasions. Can’t knock his overall contribution to the win though. It was crucial.Yeah we wouldn't want to rely on the player who scored one and assisted the other, that would be daft.
He tries stuff, he's exciting to watch and then he'll maybe go too far or hold it too long. I like.
He's the only proper wide player we currently have and is visibly blowing out of his arse after 70 minutes. If we are going to continue to play with the current formation, we surely need at least another option for that position don't we?
Have to disagree Bren. It's a tough one because he has ultimately scored a goal and played a part in the other, but he continues to give the ball away far too often and make really poor decisions which stunt our attacking play.
He's not the only one like that and if we are going to move on we are going to need better options in certain areas.
If he gets it right a couple of times a game and that leads to 2 goals then I'm happy with him, every team outside the top handful in Europe can carry a maverick who's only job is to create a few key moments every game, it is really frustrating though.
If a player does it pretty much every game then maybe so Paul, but how many goals has Leon Bailey scored in the 1 and a half seasons he has been with us?
He certainly has got talent and I think he could be a decent squad option, but I think we could do with a better and more consistent player in that position
Well, yeah, that's what I said. You disagreed with someone who, effectively, said his contribution against Leeds was crucial and said, what I took to be, that even though he scored 1 and made another it still wasn'ty good enough because other times he gave the ball away. I replied because I thought that was unfair in relation to that single match and that I don't care if he gives the ball away more than we like if the times he doesn't give it away lead to goals, assists or chances because having 1 player like that in the team/squad is fine.
Overall he hasn't done enough so far, I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but to complain about his contribution in a game where he was key to both of our goals in a 2-1 win seems unfair.
Wasn't it his performance at Anfield when we won 3-1 just before Xmas 2012 (and just before our horrific month of results) where he ripped Liverpool apart, that announced his prowess?
Yes, and it was a few days after the Norwich game I mentioned.
I can well remember both me a Brian Green on here after the Norwich game saying he's the real deal.
49 goals in 101 games isn't too shabby. Especially as we were mostly poor in those days. A player like him now would do us the world of good.
My original point Paul was that we need another wide option as we currently relying solely on Leon Bailey to do that. He is playing for 90 minutes when he looks spent after 70 and we haven't got another option in the squad who play that role at the moment.
I accept that it might be unfair to criticise when he has scored a great goal and played a part in a second, but a better player might have done that and not given the ball away as much, and might do it on a much more consistent basis.
My original point Paul was that we need another wide option as we currently relying solely on Leon Bailey to do that. He is playing for 90 minutes when he looks spent after 70 and we haven't got another option in the squad who play that role at the moment.
I accept that it might be unfair to criticise when he has scored a great goal and played a part in a second, but a better player might have done that and not given the ball away as much, and might do it on a much more consistent basis.
I have no problem with the original point and I agree we need another option but all i was saying is he did play well against Leeds and is a key reason why we got 3 points, and sometimes that enough when the role he's playing is to be the guy who makes a difference when it matters. So far this season he's 1 in 3 for goals and assists (and the 2nd goal on Friday doesn't go as an assist for him despite him clearly creating it) even with our awful start. Given he's always been a bit 'streaky' as a player I'd hope that we're due a run of form from him at some point so I don't think it's unfair to think he could end the season on 15ish goals and assists (6 in the league so far), and that would be a perfectly good return for him.
I get what you're saying about another player maybe offering as much and being more consistent but that player doesn't exist at the club right now and might take 2-3 windows/attempts to find so they're not really a fair benchmark for him right now. There's better options for every position on the pitch for us (except maybe in goal where we have a guy who is genuinely in the discussion as the best in his position in the world) but that doesn't stop our players from deserving credit when they have a good day.
My original point Paul was that we need another wide option as we currently relying solely on Leon Bailey to do that. He is playing for 90 minutes when he looks spent after 70 and we haven't got another option in the squad who play that role at the moment.
I accept that it might be unfair to criticise when he has scored a great goal and played a part in a second, but a better player might have done that and not given the ball away as much, and might do it on a much more consistent basis.
I have no problem with the original point and I agree we need another option but all i was saying is he did play well against Leeds and is a key reason why we got 3 points, and sometimes that enough when the role he's playing is to be the guy who makes a difference when it matters. So far this season he's 1 in 3 for goals and assists (and the 2nd goal on Friday doesn't go as an assist for him despite him clearly creating it) even with our awful start. Given he's always been a bit 'streaky' as a player I'd hope that we're due a run of form from him at some point so I don't think it's unfair to think he could end the season on 15ish goals and assists (6 in the league so far), and that would be a perfectly good return for him.
I get what you're saying about another player maybe offering as much and being more consistent but that player doesn't exist at the club right now and might take 2-3 windows/attempts to find so they're not really a fair benchmark for him right now. There's better options for every position on the pitch for us (except maybe in goal where we have a guy who is genuinely in the discussion as the best in his position in the world) but that doesn't stop our players from deserving credit when they have a good day.
Fair points Paul and I do accept that him playing on the right can hamper him as he hasnt really got a right foot. The obvious benefit of him playing on the right is the ability to cut in and shoot with his left foot, which got us the two goals.
I agree Paul that 15 goals would represent a very good return really.
My original point Paul was that we need another wide option as we currently relying solely on Leon Bailey to do that. He is playing for 90 minutes when he looks spent after 70 and we haven't got another option in the squad who play that role at the moment.
I accept that it might be unfair to criticise when he has scored a great goal and played a part in a second, but a better player might have done that and not given the ball away as much, and might do it on a much more consistent basis.
I have no problem with the original point and I agree we need another option but all i was saying is he did play well against Leeds and is a key reason why we got 3 points, and sometimes that enough when the role he's playing is to be the guy who makes a difference when it matters. So far this season he's 1 in 3 for goals and assists (and the 2nd goal on Friday doesn't go as an assist for him despite him clearly creating it) even with our awful start. Given he's always been a bit 'streaky' as a player I'd hope that we're due a run of form from him at some point so I don't think it's unfair to think he could end the season on 15ish goals and assists (6 in the league so far), and that would be a perfectly good return for him.
I get what you're saying about another player maybe offering as much and being more consistent but that player doesn't exist at the club right now and might take 2-3 windows/attempts to find so they're not really a fair benchmark for him right now. There's better options for every position on the pitch for us (except maybe in goal where we have a guy who is genuinely in the discussion as the best in his position in the world) but that doesn't stop our players from deserving credit when they have a good day.
Fair points Paul and I do accept that him playing on the right can hamper him as he hasnt really got a right foot. The obvious benefit of him playing on the right is the ability to cut in and shoot with his left foot, which got us the two goals.
I agree Paul that 15 goals would represent a very good return really.
I definitely prefer him on the left but, for whatever reason, that's not where he's being used. What I'd really liked to have seen though was him switching sides once Ings came on, I get the reasoning when it's Bailey and Watkins because we want to keep them out of eachs others space and Watkins clearly likes running the RB/RCB channel. Ings doesn't do that and would benefit from someone turning defenders and playing balls between the defence and keeper, which Bailey could do from the left, I think they'd both benefit from giving this a go next time they're together.
Top bloke. If he starts getting the knack to release the baller quicker then he'll be an elite player.
Edit: I take that back. He needs to learn a lot more than that, he was shite today.
Another insipid display today. Unless he improves significantly between now and May fancy he’ll be a gonner come August.
Another insipid display today. Unless he improves significantly between now and May fancy he’ll be a gonner come August.
He did well in the build up to our opener, but other than that he did very little. He looks lost in a 4-4-2 and clearly isn't suited to being in the front two.
Their lad Tete in one game showed more than Bailey has in ages to be honest, gave our defence a torrid time. I don't remember the last time Bailey did that. He's on "the list" for the summer in my opinion, along with Mings, Konsa, McGinn, Watkins and Cash.
Their lad Tete in one game showed more than Bailey has in ages to be honest, gave our defence a torrid time. I don't remember the last time Bailey did that. He's on "the list" for the summer in my opinion, along with Mings, Konsa, McGinn, Watkins and Cash.
I agree with most of this especially regarding Bailey. Watkins did score two today though
Not good enough. For a player with such speed he never seems to go past a defender. Needs an upgrade in the summer (hopefully 2023).He had the beating of the full back early in the game, but once he received a couple of physical challenges he decided he didn’t want to risk getting hurt.
Very poor. The ball does not stuck to him. Should have put his left foot through the ball for that chance. There was never going to be time to take a touch. How does he keep getting started.
Can see Bert getting some startsTrouble is, they're both flakes; certainly don't deal well with the close attention of the opposing fullback. And, both are very left-foot biased.
Bailey has a heart the size of a pea.
He’s , very sadly ,not good enough to start.I'd shoot him into the sun
Sub? Maybe. Impact player maybe.
He can’t beat a man.Which as a winger isn’t great.
And to look like he’s been shot by a sniper when his first or second touch lets him down , or god forbid he’s tackled, is beginning to grate.
Use him as a sun and hope his 1 in 10 improves.
He needs to be removed from the starting eleven and also from the song about Emery. I know his name has two syllables but 'with Konsa at the back and Bailey in attack', we won't be going up the Premier League or into the Europa League.
To take a comment from another thread, Villa needs players who can consistently turn in a 7-8 out of 10 performance. Bailey ain't going to be doing that any time soon; if ever.I hate dragging up previous posts, but he has never impressed me and continues not to.
[As Paul_e says above, he's better on the left, and Emery seems to - once again - have stuck him on the right. Whatever,] but unless he can show consistent contribution to the team he's not going to make it here. IMHO.
We'll always have that Everton home game.
We'll always have that Everton home game.
Well he has Everton away today. I do think he gets maltreated by opposition players and today is going to be more of the same.
He's had his rotation having been rested to the bench for the last game.
Lets be looking to debate on if he should have started this match and played come his and team performance.
Good Wishes Leon!
I'll also be watching how many times he'll be fouled and it goes unpenislied. These things irritate players, and he gets himself booked for his own attempts to tackle. He's one of the few people I sympathise with when it comes to yellow cards because he's never committed a worse foul than some that have happened to him which go unpunished.
He's having to show character in order to play.
I'll also be watching how many times he'll be fouled and it goes unpenislied. These things irritate players, and he gets himself booked for his own attempts to tackle. He's one of the few people I sympathise with when it comes to yellow cards because he's never committed a worse foul than some that have happened to him which go unpunished.
He's having to show character in order to play.
Have fun watching that! ;D
He does seem to be an all or nothing player. We’re not getting enough 7 out of 10 performances. We know he won’t put a shift in when it’s not going well and that he just doesn’t fancy physical duels. Got to be one we look to sell in the summer while he’s still got a couple of years left on this contract.
He does seem to be an all or nothing player. We’re not getting enough 7 out of 10 performances. We know he won’t put a shift in when it’s not going well and that he just doesn’t fancy physical duels. Got to be one we look to sell in the summer while he’s still got a couple of years left on this contract.5 out of 10 would be a vast improvement on what we are seeing.
He does seem to be an all or nothing player. We’re not getting enough 7 out of 10 performances. We know he won’t put a shift in when it’s not going well and that he just doesn’t fancy physical duels. Got to be one we look to sell in the summer while he’s still got a couple of years left on this contract.
Other than that Everton home game have we ever had a 7 out of 10 performance from him?
He is a confidence player; unfortunately, I have withdrawn mine.
He does seem to be an all or nothing player. We’re not getting enough 7 out of 10 performances. We know he won’t put a shift in when it’s not going well and that he just doesn’t fancy physical duels. Got to be one we look to sell in the summer while he’s still got a couple of years left on this contract.5 out of 10 would be a vast improvement on what we are seeing.
He has had more 'lives' than all the cats in a cat farm put together.
Come the summer, put a bid in for Raheem Sterling. Chelsea don't need him, they have about 400 players already.
He has had more 'lives' than all the cats in a cat farm put together.unfortunately Bailey has Sterling’s football brain software.
Come the summer, put a bid in for Raheem Sterling. Chelsea don't need him, they have about 400 players already.
He has had more 'lives' than all the cats in a cat farm put together.unfortunately Bailey has Sterling’s football brain software.
Come the summer, put a bid in for Raheem Sterling. Chelsea don't need him, they have about 400 players already.
There are lots of unwanted Chelsea players I would take before Sterling.
He has had more 'lives' than all the cats in a cat farm put together.
Come the summer, put a bid in for Raheem Sterling. Chelsea don't need him, they have about 400 players already.
Christ no, I'm frustrated enough as it is
There's no way on earth we'll be after Sterling, so I wouldn't worry.
Sterling's a very good player who almost guarantees double figures in goals from one of the wide forward spots. But he's also 29 this year and would cost a fortune in a fee and wages, so no way the owners will rubber stamp that.
There's no way on earth we'll be after Sterling, so I wouldn't worry.
Newcastle bound with any luck as Bren says, they need a good 'more money than sense' signing to unravel the annoyingly effective close knit thing they've got at present.
Also, runs like a girl.
Also, runs like a girl.
I think he is out on loan.Also, runs like a girl.
Must we use casual misogyny?
I think he is out on loan.Also, runs like a girl.
Must we use casual misogyny?
Also, runs like a girl.
I think he is out on loan.Also, runs like a girl.
Must we use casual misogyny?
Seriously though, what does a girl run like?
Seriously though, what does a girl run like?
Raheem Sterling.
No, no, no, Sterling runs like a Velociraptor. Definitely that.
Seriously though, what does a girl run like?
Raheem Sterling.
Fair play, so.
Anyway, I am now searching for for Laura Woods content to see if it works for me.
No, no, no, Sterling runs like a Velociraptor. Definitely that.
Seriously though, what does a girl run like?
Raheem Sterling.
Fair play, so.
Anyway, I am now searching for for Laura Woods content to see if it works for me.
No, no, no, Sterling runs like a Velociraptor. Definitely that.
Seriously though, what does a girl run like?
Raheem Sterling.
Fair play, so.
Anyway, I am now searching for for Laura Woods content to see if it works for me.
Keith Bertschin fits the bill. Middle name Edwina.
No, no, no, Sterling runs like a Velociraptor. Definitely that.
Seriously though, what does a girl run like?
Raheem Sterling.
Fair play, so.
Anyway, I am now searching for for Laura Woods content to see if it works for me.
I reckon Bailey ends up back in a lower quality or slower paced European league next season. Where he will likely do ok, probably play in European competition, and we will catch the odd great goal or lovely piece of skill in highlights packages.
Think of all the wingers we’ve had over the years. My first Villa hero was Tony Morley, to the extent i bumped into him in a coffee shop in Sutton Coldfield a couple of years ago and was tongue tied gutted. Then Mark Walters with his step overs, then Tony Daley. Later and for a very short but impressive period Nobby Solano, after that Ash Young, even Robert Snodgrass in the championship and obviously Joe.
Bailey, has sublime moments, like goals against Brentford, Man Utd, Leeds, when he came on at old trafford in the league cup, beat 3 or 4 men and set Watkins away. But in between those moments, he literally does nowt and is more akin to Nigel Callaghans spell at Villa than those mentioned above.
Whatever the frustrations with all those other Villa wingers, they just did more and in the case of Walters and Daley, in both very good and very shite Villa sides.
It’s m never normally one to write players off too early, but i just dont see it with him.
He lacks arrogance, aggression, or something. He needs to man up a bit.don't think he lacks arrogance in how good he thinks is is
Think of all the wingers we’ve had over the years. My first Villa hero was Tony Morley, to the extent i bumped into him in a coffee shop in Sutton Coldfield a couple of years ago and was tongue tied gutted. Then Mark Walters with his step overs, then Tony Daley. Later and for a very short but impressive period Nobby Solano, after that Ash Young, even Robert Snodgrass in the championship and obviously Joe.
Bailey, has sublime moments, like goals against Brentford, Man Utd, Leeds, when he came on at old trafford in the league cup, beat 3 or 4 men and set Watkins away. But in between those moments, he literally does nowt and is more akin to Nigel Callaghans spell at Villa than those mentioned above.
Whatever the frustrations with all those other Villa wingers, they just did more and in the case of Walters and Daley, in both very good and very shite Villa sides.
It’s m never normally one to write players off too early, but i just dont see it with him.
Bailey positives -
He has a good shot on him, scored some cracking goals and when he shoots he can cause problems like he did last week when he hit the bar without playing that well
Bailey negatives -
For all the talk of his pace I rarely see him actually beat a man and get a decent cross in
More often stops turns, then stumbles over it
He’s better running onto a ball in a forward position rather than trying to get past a man where he’s very good at running straight into him
Rambo bringing back ice memories of wingers of the past he’s not in the same league as Daley or Walters they went past people with ease
Think of all the wingers we’ve had over the years. My first Villa hero was Tony Morley, to the extent i bumped into him in a coffee shop in Sutton Coldfield a couple of years ago and was tongue tied gutted. Then Mark Walters with his step overs, then Tony Daley. Later and for a very short but impressive period Nobby Solano, after that Ash Young, even Robert Snodgrass in the championship and obviously Joe.
Bailey, has sublime moments, like goals against Brentford, Man Utd, Leeds, when he came on at old trafford in the league cup, beat 3 or 4 men and set Watkins away. But in between those moments, he literally does nowt and is more akin to Nigel Callaghans spell at Villa than those mentioned above.
Whatever the frustrations with all those other Villa wingers, they just did more and in the case of Walters and Daley, in both very good and very shite Villa sides.
It’s m never normally one to write players off too early, but i just dont see it with him.
In terms of goals, he's a step down from El Ghazi. In terms of effort and application, he's a step down from Trezeguet.
Think of all the wingers we’ve had over the years. My first Villa hero was Tony Morley, to the extent i bumped into him in a coffee shop in Sutton Coldfield a couple of years ago and was tongue tied gutted. Then Mark Walters with his step overs, then Tony Daley. Later and for a very short but impressive period Nobby Solano, after that Ash Young, even Robert Snodgrass in the championship and obviously Joe.
Bailey, has sublime moments, like goals against Brentford, Man Utd, Leeds, when he came on at old trafford in the league cup, beat 3 or 4 men and set Watkins away. But in between those moments, he literally does nowt and is more akin to Nigel Callaghans spell at Villa than those mentioned above.
Whatever the frustrations with all those other Villa wingers, they just did more and in the case of Walters and Daley, in both very good and very shite Villa sides.
It’s m never normally one to write players off too early, but i just dont see it with him.
In terms of goals, he's a step down from El Ghazi. In terms of effort and application, he's a step down from Trezeguet.
Take AEG's penos off him, I doubt he was that more prolific than Leon.
Think of all the wingers we’ve had over the years. My first Villa hero was Tony Morley, to the extent i bumped into him in a coffee shop in Sutton Coldfield a couple of years ago and was tongue tied gutted. Then Mark Walters with his step overs, then Tony Daley. Later and for a very short but impressive period Nobby Solano, after that Ash Young, even Robert Snodgrass in the championship and obviously Joe.
Bailey, has sublime moments, like goals against Brentford, Man Utd, Leeds, when he came on at old trafford in the league cup, beat 3 or 4 men and set Watkins away. But in between those moments, he literally does nowt and is more akin to Nigel Callaghans spell at Villa than those mentioned above.
Whatever the frustrations with all those other Villa wingers, they just did more and in the case of Walters and Daley, in both very good and very shite Villa sides.
It’s m never normally one to write players off too early, but i just dont see it with him.
I reckon Bert fits into your list better than Bailey and he's probably the most frustrating player we've had for years.
I like the idea of Bailey more than the real thing. As I've said before (much to the upset of footy) I just don't think he's adapted to the quicker and more physical nature of English football. There are flashes of the player he could be if he gets over that but they're just not regular enough. I think he's got the rest of the season to work it out or he'll be moved on in the summer. That we were looking at Williams shows that it's an area Emery is concerned over.
Nobody's saying that El Ghazi has got better by being out of the team. Bailey hasn't by being in the team, that's the point.
Nobody's saying that El Ghazi has got better by being out of the team. Bailey hasn't by being in the team, that's the point.
You said he's a downgrade on El Ghazi. Bailey is an upgrade on El Ghazi and I can use career history, transfer fees, finish places in the league to help that argument.
Bailey to be rotated tomorrow?
He got a knock and was way off it last week.
Best for the bench and Buendía given the start against Palace.
As if we needed any more proof.Bailey to be rotated tomorrow?
He got a knock and was way off it last week.
Best for the bench and Buendía given the start against Palace.
Judging by the pictures in The S*n he made up for it Saturday night.
He'll be gone on the summer, no doubt at a loss.
Tried to pull a Grealish stunt with 10% of the talent.
In all seriousness what he's doing off the pitch doesn't matter too much to me (with obvious caveats) but he has been shit on it most of the time, that's why he should be dropped and not this. He doesn't work hard enough and he doesn't 'work' in Emery's system either.
When Purslow said Buendia, Ings and Bailey were signed to replace Grealish’s attributes, I didn’t think he’d be this thorough.
already has.When Purslow said Buendia, Ings and Bailey were signed to replace Grealish’s attributes, I didn’t think he’d be this thorough.
Haha, indeed.
It's made to think that within couple of years, the Purslow master 'moneybag' plan will have unravelled
I'm going to go against my decades old inclination to be a misery arse and say that I do actually feel a tiny bit sorry for him. He's worked hard to get where he has, and had a great career in Germany. He had a massively positive write up when he arrived as being one of the best in Europe, but he just hasn't backed that up. He probably realises that he's not good enough or maybe to put it more more kindly isn't cut out for the Premier League, and he doesn't know how to handle it.
His Dad has just tweeted that he was actually blowing up balloons for his friends after-party.
His Dad has just tweeted that he was actually blowing up balloons for his friends after-party.Dog ate my homework
I think he was playing a silly game and got a little bit carried away. His career is not over. But he must face consequences.As if we needed any more proof.Bailey to be rotated tomorrow?
He got a knock and was way off it last week.
Best for the bench and Buendía given the start against Palace.
Judging by the pictures in The S*n he made up for it Saturday night.
His Dad has just tweeted that he was actually blowing up balloons for his friends after-party.Can't wait for the photographs of him putting bits of cheese and pineapple on cocktail sticks then placing them in to a potato covered in tin foil!
His Dad has just tweeted that he was actually blowing up balloons for his friends after-party.I often find that when im asked to help with the party preperations, that the best thing to do is drive into Birmingham City Center at 7am on a Sunday morning. It just helps create a clear head space.
His Dad has just tweeted that he was actually blowing up balloons for his friends after-party.Can't wait for the photographs of him putting bits of cheese and pineapple on cocktail sticks then placing them in to a potato covered in tin foil!
His Dad has just tweeted that he was actually blowing up balloons for his friends after-party.I often find that when im asked to help with the party preperations, that the best thing to do is drive into Birmingham City Center at 7am on a Sunday morning. It just helps create a clear head space.
I sure he'll be ok when he comes on today.He's full of nitrous oxide though
It's good to see he's been rested and rotated. that's fair to Buendía.
He played well today, much tidier and threatening as a result.agreed
Apart from his assist didn’t do much else of note today. Will be very surprised if still on the payroll come August.This, flatters to deceive. Apparently has pace, but rarely beats his or gets away from his marker.
Came in to see if he prayed well today or not. Leaves mystified, which fits his career with us perfectly to be honest.
Worth a note today, he was really good in our attacking play. The pass to put Ramsey in for the Watkins goal was great.Agreed, I’m not his biggest fan but credit where it’s due. Also good to see him enjoying the post match celebrations as well. One big happy team.
Worth a note today, he was really good in our attacking play. The pass to put Ramsey in for the Watkins goal was great.
Worth a note today, he was really good in our attacking play. The pass to put Ramsey in for the Watkins goal was great.
Tracked back and helped Cash with Enciso too.
I thought it was one of his best games in a Villa shirt.
Unlucky not to have a goal and an assist to his name yesterday.
My daughter was convinced that his first name was Fuckinell earlier on this year.
He got that key pass for the winner. I think on the highlights, when he hit the bar it was slightly deflected off the top of the defender’s foot?
Created a big chance for Ramsey…
More of this next season!
Did he have a full pre-season this year (and does it count anyway under Gerrard)? He always seems to be slightly behind either in match-fitness or the team’s tactics.
Had a decent game against Brighton.
He at least seems to have picked up that it's more rewarding to beat a man then pass it and look for the return, rather than continuing to take on opponents before finally losing the ball.
With what we hope will be a lot of extra games next season, he could still be around to play a lot of games.
Whatever decision Unai makes, you have to back it to be the right one. If it were up to me (and, in every sense, what the fuck do I know) his would be the first position on the teamsheet to upgrade if we are to progress. But if Unai thinks he can make him a real something, then obviously I agree.I think RB is the most critical.
Whatever decision Unai makes, you have to back it to be the right one. If it were up to me (and, in every sense, what the fuck do I know) his would be the first position on the teamsheet to upgrade if we are to progress. But if Unai thinks he can make him a real something, then obviously I agree.I think RB is the most critical.
Sharply followed by this.
I would imagine that is the first position we want to upgrade. Emery has done brilliantly with what he has available, miraculous almost. But he'll want better, more consistent players than Bailey and Buendia, I've no doubt about that.
Just watched the 'every Villa goal' video and was surprised to see the number of quality assists with a couple of fine goals thrown in from this frequently maligned player. Amongst his less creative moments there's some real quality in there. The pass for our second against Brighton is my standout (and not because it was our last goal of the campaign - my long-term memory is better than that). I really hope he shows more consistency next season; he was beginning to show it towards the end.
Just watched the 'every Villa goal' video and was surprised to see the number of quality assists with a couple of fine goals thrown in from this frequently maligned player. Amongst his less creative moments there's some real quality in there. The pass for our second against Brighton is my standout (and not because it was our last goal of the campaign - my long-term memory is better than that). I really hope he shows more consistency next season; he was beginning to show it towards the end.
I was going to post something similar - really interesting to see how many times he was directly involved in goals and the build up to goals. Sure he could do more but so could all of them.
The thing i like about him is he never moans when taken off and several times he has been first on pitch at end of game to support the players who finish the game.
Whatever decision Unai makes, you have to back it to be the right one. If it were up to me (and, in every sense, what the fuck do I know) his would be the first position on the teamsheet to upgrade if we are to progress. But if Unai thinks he can make him a real something, then obviously I agree.I think RB is the most critical.
Sharply followed by this.
That seems to have come from the same article that's in the transfer thread and doesn't seem to have much to back it up.
That seems to have come from the same article that's in the transfer thread and doesn't seem to have much to back it up.
He probably *is* for sale in the sense that all but a handful of players are. i.e if a club offered us a price that we thought outweighed his playing value then we'd accept it and sell him.
That's obviously very different to the Sanson / Nakamba / Wesley situation of actively trying to move them out as they are no longer needed.
Like the rest of the article, it's just an exercise in saying nothing while still filling a thousand words of copy.
Jamaica lost in gold cup semis this morning. Not sure how long he'll have off before coming back.
I'd chuck him into the deal for Diaby.Good shout that and as it is Leverkeusen where he came from it might work nicely (if they want him back and his wages)
I think he was rapid, except now he's done his hamstring he's either not confident, or fit, enough to be.
Bit more internet noise today about him going to Saudi Arabia.
I think Bailey will leave and we may well get Adama Traore back at the football club. His a very entertaining and interesting option from the bench and given him being Spanish , it seems a match with unai emeryCatalan though.
Stats when he is in the team are far better than when he isn't. Emery seems to rate him too, as he kept picking him.
Bit more internet noise today about him going to Saudi Arabia.
I have wondered why we haven’t seen footage of Leon all smiles with Diaby given they played really well together in Germany. He appears a bit out of place at the moment in the current set up and JP has seemingly moved ahead of him. Sell Bailey, buy Doku, develop JP and Kayden. I’ll take that.
Bit more internet noise today about him going to Saudi Arabia.
I have wondered why we haven’t seen footage of Leon all smiles with Diaby given they played really well together in Germany. He appears a bit out of place at the moment in the current set up and JP has seemingly moved ahead of him. Sell Bailey, buy Doku, develop JP and Kayden. I’ll take that.
Sounds good to me! What a summer that would be.
Stats when he is in the team are far better than when he isn't. Emery seems to rate him too, as he kept picking him.
The stats things sounds like nonsense to me.
Since Emery arrived, we've played 25 games and won 15 and drawn 4 of them. 49 points, or 1.96 points a game. Bailey has played in 21 of those, of which we've won 13 and drawn 2, so 41 points, or 1.95 points a game.
So since Emery arrived, we've taken 2 points a game. Bailey has played in all but four of them, and the points tally is exactly the same.
In that time though, he's scored two goals, which isn't really good enough for the main attacking outlet next to Watkins, and is surely something that Emery had in mind when he bought Diaby.
So he's an effective part of the team then; the stats don't show a drop-off when he's out.
I get the need for goals and speed, but I think we've seen glimpses of what he can do.
I do worry though, because, as with Coutinho, I/we're saying that we need to get some of our attacking players fit and give them time, we've also got Ramsey out too .
I think he's still got a part to play. An injury to Diaby and we're left with a promising youngster and that's it if Bert goes.But if he goes he will be replaced with an upgrade e.g. Doku.
Bit more internet noise today about him going to Saudi Arabia.
Doku isn't the only one. The links for Juventus' 19 year old, English player have started up again in the past few days - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/samuel-iling-junior/profil/spieler/581672.
He’s absolutely incapable of beating a man and his first touch is like a trampoline.
Can we end the Leon Bailey Experience. Slowest “pacy winger” I have ever seen and offers very little anywhere on the pitch.awful player
I fancy him to win the Ballon d'Or.I fancy him to win the exit door.
Credit where its due, and I groaned when I saw him win the starting 11. But he was great today
I’m happy for him. There’s a chance he could develop a good understanding with Diaby on the right. I don’t think Emery wants him to run at defenders, even if he had the pace.
He didn’t start the game well but kept at it so fair play to him.
I’m happy for him. There’s a chance he could develop a good understanding with Diaby on the right. I don’t think Emery wants him to run at defenders, even if he had the pace.
He didn’t start the game well but kept at it so fair play to him.
I think he's been told to not take people on in pointless areas. He was looking for the pass when he was 30-40 yards out but taking people on in and around the box, which is where it has much more impact.
https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1693379849480536324?t=6OEF4_ntGGkpWl6Hkat9Fg&s=19
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I'd be surprised if a player who had played was in the corporate boxes at the end of a game.
I'd be surprised if a player who had played was in the corporate boxes at the end of a game.
Kicking in chairs and knocking down tables, as they say.
Reacted well to the sub getting subbed malarkey at Anfield.
Scored for Jamaica last night. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/october/16/internationals--bailey-on-target-for-jamaica/
He looks like he has beefed up abit ?
I mentioned this in the match thread but due to all the injuries, Bailey is the only player from last season that has been "dropped" from the starting 11. And I think his attitude to that has been great. Rightly or wrongly, people were pretty harsh on him when he did play earlier in the season, but he seems to have just knuckled down and done what's asked of him, when it's asked of him, and it's working for him and for the team.
It all seems to come back to that idea of the players buying what Emery is selling and I don't think Emery would be shy about getting rid of anyone who wasn't 100% on board with his plans. And so far, everyone seems to be on board.
I mentioned this in the match thread but due to all the injuries, Bailey is the only player from last season that has been "dropped" from the starting 11. And I think his attitude to that has been great. Rightly or wrongly, people were pretty harsh on him when he did play earlier in the season, but he seems to have just knuckled down and done what's asked of him, when it's asked of him, and it's working for him and for the team.
It all seems to come back to that idea of the players buying what Emery is selling and I don't think Emery would be shy about getting rid of anyone who wasn't 100% on board with his plans. And so far, everyone seems to be on board.
His post match interview (with Dougie) backed this up. I was really pleased to see him saying something along the lines of ‘all of us in the squad know our role and are ready to play our part when we are called’
The arrogance we used to attribute to him seems to have slipped away and I think that is simply because being part of a good squad who are going places, feels a bit different to being benched when we aren’t very good!
It’s always been true that it’s hard to build strength in depth because no decent player wants to be a sub in an average or poor team. We are at the stage where we can bench decent players!
I like him. From the moment he came on yesterday I kept on saying 'just get the ball to Bailey'.
I mentioned this in the match thread but due to all the injuries, Bailey is the only player from last season that has been "dropped" from the starting 11. And I think his attitude to that has been great. Rightly or wrongly, people were pretty harsh on him when he did play earlier in the season, but he seems to have just knuckled down and done what's asked of him, when it's asked of him, and it's working for him and for the team.
It all seems to come back to that idea of the players buying what Emery is selling and I don't think Emery would be shy about getting rid of anyone who wasn't 100% on board with his plans. And so far, everyone seems to be on board.
His post match interview (with Dougie) backed this up. I was really pleased to see him saying something along the lines of ‘all of us in the squad know our role and are ready to play our part when we are called’
The arrogance we used to attribute to him seems to have slipped away and I think that is simply because being part of a good squad who are going places, feels a bit different to being benched when we aren’t very good!
It’s always been true that it’s hard to build strength in depth because no decent player wants to be a sub in an average or poor team. We are at the stage where we can bench decent players!
I agree he's a much better player this season and he loves scoring at Villa Park.
I agree he's a much better player this season and he loves scoring at Villa Park.
All of his league goals have been at the Holte End too.
How much of his improvement and upturn in his attitude is due to his old mukka joining the club.
Sharing the load, pressure and expectations with Diaby must be a factor.
Love his accent and mannerLet's hope he won't be betrayed...
I read somewhere yesterday he has, and I'm going off memory here, the highest goal contributions (G&A) per 90 mins played in the league at 1.6. I think Nunez was next at...I'm going to say 1.57.
I might be making all that up, but he was definitely top of something impressive sounding.
I read somewhere yesterday he has, and I'm going off memory here, the highest goal contributions (G&A) per 90 mins played in the league at 1.6. I think Nunez was next at...I'm going to say 1.57.
I might be making all that up, but he was definitely top of something impressive sounding.
Credit to Bailey, he was excellent vs AZ tonight
Watch his run again for the 3rd goal tonight, could easily have gone offside - I guarantee Watkins would - but instead cleverly angled his run just enough to ensure he got in behind the defender. Great game from Leon.
Watch his run again for the 3rd goal tonight, could easily have gone offside - I guarantee Watkins would - but instead cleverly angled his run just enough to ensure he got in behind the defender. Great game from Leon.
Watch his run again for the 3rd goal tonight, could easily have gone offside - I guarantee Watkins would - but instead cleverly angled his run just enough to ensure he got in behind the defender. Great game from Leon.
Old Watkins maybe, he as barely been offside these season, along with most of the team so they all seem to be able to angle their runs.
Watch his run again for the 3rd goal tonight, could easily have gone offside - I guarantee Watkins would - but instead cleverly angled his run just enough to ensure he got in behind the defender. Great game from Leon.
didn’t someone post stats on this the other day, Watkins is rarely off-side nowadays?
Bailey has been excellent this season really overall. If we’d only signed him in the summer we’d be drooling over him, it’s the fact that he had two largely underwhelming seasons beforehand that’s making us a bit more reserved and still looking to be totally convinced.
Watch his run again for the 3rd goal tonight, could easily have gone offside - I guarantee Watkins would - but instead cleverly angled his run just enough to ensure he got in behind the defender. Great game from Leon.
didn’t someone post stats on this the other day, Watkins is rarely off-side nowadays?
Being given offside is different from making a stupid run into an offside position that the midfielder sees and doesn't give you the ball.
Its all about the socks, rolled down
Watch his run again for the 3rd goal tonight, could easily have gone offside - I guarantee Watkins would - but instead cleverly angled his run just enough to ensure he got in behind the defender. Great game from Leon.
didn’t someone post stats on this the other day, Watkins is rarely off-side nowadays?
Being given offside is different from making a stupid run into an offside position that the midfielder sees and doesn't give you the ball.
Diaby coming in seems to have helped him a bit or made him up his game.I was thinking that, too.
I thought he was our best attacking outlet last night. Some of his passes went a lite off, but he was at least trying to be positive.
I thought he was our best attacking outlet last night. Some of his passes went a lite off, but he was at least trying to be positive.
Very accurate with his corners and thought he worked hard all night.I thought he was our best attacking outlet last night. Some of his passes went a lite off, but he was at least trying to be positive.
Exactly what I thought. He kept trying something different and wasn’t put off when it didn’t work.
I thought he was bang average last night. If his first touch was ok there were many instances whereby his second or third wasn’t.This. I'd have hooked him instead of Tielemans and played Zaniolo on the right, which I believe is his preferred position. That way we'd see whether Zaniolo is any better playing there.
It may not have been his best game but he still looked the most likely to create something for most of the game.
Back to his usual infuriating self last night , shame as he's had a couple of decent games prior
Back to his usual infuriating self last night , shame as he's had a couple of decent games prior
no he was pure gash, i meant more West Ham and AZ awayBack to his usual infuriating self last night , shame as he's had a couple of decent games prior
He very much wasn't decent against Forest.
I thought he was our best attacking outlet last night. Some of his passes went a lite off, but he was at least trying to be positive.Totally agree
I thought he was pretty poor last night, particularly the first half. He lost possession pretty much every time he got the ball, and some of his decision-making was well off.
This, so bloody often.I thought he was pretty poor last night, particularly the first half. He lost possession pretty much every time he got the ball, and some of his decision-making was well off.
Yes, it’s so frustrating when he loses the ball after turning down the option of a simple 5 or 10 yard progressive pass.
I thought he was whipping in some delightful corners including the quality in assisted Diego Carlos with a super delivery of the ball.I thought he was our best attacking outlet last night. Some of his passes went a lite off, but he was at least trying to be positive.Totally agree
I thought he was pretty poor last night, particularly the first half. He lost possession pretty much every time he got the ball, and some of his decision-making was well off.
Yes, it’s so frustrating when he loses the ball after turning down the option of a simple 5 or 10 yard progressive pass.
He's making an impact every time he steps on the pitch, doesn't seem to mind coming off the bench and appreciating the love and respect he's getting from both the fans and his teammates. He finally feels loved and is happy to play his part whatever that may be. Good strong character.
I thought he was pretty poor last night, particularly the first half. He lost possession pretty much every time he got the ball, and some of his decision-making was well off.
Yes, it’s so frustrating when he loses the ball after turning down the option of a simple 5 or 10 yard progressive pass.
He's making an impact every time he steps on the pitch, doesn't seem to mind coming off the bench and appreciating the love and respect he's getting from both the fans and his teammates. He finally feels loved and is happy to play his part whatever that may be. Good strong character.
He's making an impact every time he steps on the pitch, doesn't seem to mind coming off the bench and appreciating the love and respect he's getting from both the fans and his teammates. He finally feels loved and is happy to play his part whatever that may be. Good strong character.
At Villa Park, that's true. Away from home in the league he's every bit as rubbish as he's always been. He was dreadful against Forest.
Came off vs Canada tonight in the 90th minute with a hamstring injury. Didn’t look overly serious but could miss the game at the weekend.
Three months out. (Villa injuries time).
He came on and then went off injured in his last game for us so why did we release him to play an International match given his sicknotedness?
He came on and then went off injured in his last game for us so why did we release him to play an International match given his sicknotedness?
There was nothing at all wrong with his movement.
He came on and then went off injured in his last game for us so why did we release him to play an International match given his sicknotedness?
He played pretty much the whole game. There was nothing at all wrong with his movement. It happened at the end of the game. For him and his country this was an important 2nd leg that ultimately saw them qualify for Copa America. When he went off he wasn’t rolling around in pain. So it might be quite minor. But this whole notion of denying players international duty is a bit of non starter because they all want to play for their country.
Three months out. (Villa injuries time).
Part of the reason they're looking at including South American teams in the European Nations League is because South American sides can't get friendlies against European teams as there are so few dates
Three months out. (Villa injuries time).
This was nonsense then
Bailey is having one hell of a season, he’s matured very well into his role for us. He’s fast becoming one of my favourite players to watch.
Bailey is having one hell of a season, he’s matured very well into his role for us. He’s fast becoming one of my favourite players to watch.
Pleased for him, he seems a very likeable guy.
If he had a right foot he'd be unstoppable...maybe. But fair do's, probably the best, consistent super-sub we've had since Tommy "Ginge" Johnson.
I was a little worried when he came off in injury time vs Canada. But thankfully it wasn’t serious. He just has a really good attitude now and we don’t hear as much from his dad. Emery has clearly sold him on a role that he has bought into.
That fancy shuffle and pass on Sunday was the clearest sign yet that his confidence is back to what it was when he first signed and tried a couple of tricks near the corner flag in, I think, his first game,
He's only going to get better.
I wonder if he's finally over the injury worry as he doesn't have to last a full game?
Plus, I think Emery had belief in him when others may have given up and you sense a player that wants to repay that faith.
I was a little worried when he came off in injury time vs Canada. But thankfully it wasn’t serious. He just has a really good attitude now and we don’t hear as much from his dad. Emery has clearly sold him on a role that he has bought into.
There was an interview towards the end of last season with him where he talked about Emery being the best coach he'd ever had, but it wasn't the usual self serving platitudes you get from players and he wasn't first choice at the time, it felt like he really meant it and I think it's shining through now.
Plus, I think Emery had belief in him when others may have given up and you sense a player that wants to repay that faith.
Three months out. (Villa injuries time).
This was nonsense then
Goal aside I thought he was a bit of a fanny today, admittedly with little ref protection.Had a few poor passes under no pressure
Come on Leon toughen it up a bit.
Leon in all comps:
20 app
7 goals
6 assists.
(Mins per goal 147).
With all the mercurial flaws that have blighted almost every winger in history, even some of the great ones.
He'll disappear for 10 minutes, misplace a 5 yard pass or shank a cross into row z but all told, he's been pretty consistent with his numbers. End product is the be all.
Keep it up Leon.
Agree, Emery is getting improvement out of him.
I can't remember at what point it was that I wrote him off, but I absolutely wrote him off, and I've never been so happy to have been so wrong. Tonight was an incredible display.
Briliant tonight, a player who has clearly improved. I'd imagine even the posters who were calling him to be kicked out of the club at the earliest opportunity have had a change of heart.
Although it took a deflection, he also shot with his weaker foot.
Well done, Leon.Can I have a slice please ?
I've never been a massive fan after initial high hopes.
I am truly feasting on humble pie today. You little fucking beauty!
Well done, Leon.Can I have a slice please ?
I've never been a massive fan after initial high hopes.
I am truly feasting on humble pie today. You little fucking beauty!
His dancing feet were brilliant.
When he is on it, bloody hell he can be special.
All good buddy.Well done, Leon.Can I have a slice please ?
I've never been a massive fan after initial high hopes.
I am truly feasting on humble pie today. You little fucking beauty!
His dancing feet were brilliant.
When he is on it, bloody hell he can be special.
Feast away, fella!
I'm on the whiskey sodas now and will celebrate this win to the full. Today has been superb. I've been a fucking pest for all Man city fans at my uni. Fuck em. 😂
Hope you're well, mate! I'm buzzing!
All good buddy.Well done, Leon.Can I have a slice please ?
I've never been a massive fan after initial high hopes.
I am truly feasting on humble pie today. You little fucking beauty!
His dancing feet were brilliant.
When he is on it, bloody hell he can be special.
Feast away, fella!
I'm on the whiskey sodas now and will celebrate this win to the full. Today has been superb. I've been a fucking pest for all Man city fans at my uni. Fuck em. 😂
Hope you're well, mate! I'm buzzing!
It was hard to come down last so barely slept but I am still grinning like a twat !
Enjoy those drinks. Keep well !
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.My MOTM. But I thought Konza and McGinn ran him close. And the rest gave performances that on other days could have been MOTM performances.
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
I absolutely adore his attitude... 👌👍
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
I absolutely adore his attitude... 👌👍
That article someone posted from The Athletic says they spoke to his stepdad after the game and he said Leon really feeds off being loved. Given the reaction he was getting for a little while it must be a massive relief to him to have turned things around again.
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
I absolutely adore his attitude... 👌👍
That article someone posted from The Athletic says they spoke to his stepdad after the game and he said Leon really feeds off being loved. Given the reaction he was getting for a little while it must be a massive relief to him to have turned things around again.
I was wondering if that is the same "dad" who was posting stuff about him and seemingly representing him just after he signed.
McGinn beasted their midfield and could easily have won motm but I was blown away by Bailey and i'm thrilled for him to get it. He just glided across the pitch and the speed of his footwork was just dazzling. A mesmerising and memorable performance.He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
I thought MOTM was McGinn, but just as happy to give it to Leon.
He looked so delighted in his interview, he was quite emotional. Comfortably MOTM in a game full of superb performances. Fantastic stuff.
I absolutely adore his attitude... 👌👍
That article someone posted from The Athletic says they spoke to his stepdad after the game and he said Leon really feeds off being loved. Given the reaction he was getting for a little while it must be a massive relief to him to have turned things around again.
I was wondering if that is the same "dad" who was posting stuff about him and seemingly representing him just after he signed.
I'm sure the article said stepdad but now I think of it I'm sure I read about Bailey being adopted by a football coach.... I'm not sure who they were talking to, to be honest, but I think the idea he responds well to being "loved" by the fans is correct.
Here for a check up on Bailey. Hopefully the substitution was a precaution.Yes, hoping it will be minor. He got stuck in for a challenge, which he won, and he was determined, but perhaps that was where he took a knock.
Here for a check up on Bailey. Hopefully the substitution was a precaution.he's just tired . I'm amazed he started the game. Got his assist , job done . He's in unreal form
Here for a check up on Bailey. Hopefully the substitution was a precaution.
he's just tired . I'm amazed he started the game. Got his assist , job done . He's in unreal form
Bailey and Digne are constantly battling for a free kick duties when it comes to taking the direct ones from an angle that suits left footer. Those clear shooting opportunity ones. Douglas Luiz appears on occasion to have to say I'm taking this one. They all want to do well and like to be involved in direct free kicks and who's taking it.
Vs Arsenal
Bailey wasn't the one to take on the occasion I'm thinking of , but he was moving the ball and looking back at McPhee and Emery, pointing to himself as he wanted to.
Everything is ok, I suppose, but the sideshow that occurs when there is a direct free kick both amuses and perplexes me.
During the conference around the ball with them, Tielemans was a few yards away conversing with Zinchenko, I believe to keep him from hearing our free kick intentions. Youri approached him in a friendly manner, and they had a conversation while Bailey and Digne and Luiz made plans. Bailey eventually walked away and left to Digne.
Everything was fascinating to see and observe.
Have others noticed the Digne and Bailey joust?
Bailey and Digne are constantly battling for a free kick duties when it comes to taking the direct ones from an angle that suits left footer. Those clear shooting opportunity ones. Douglas Luiz appears on occasion to have to say I'm taking this one. They all want to do well and like to be involved in direct free kicks and who's taking it.
Vs Arsenal
Bailey wasn't the one to take on the occasion I'm thinking of , but he was moving the ball and looking back at McPhee and Emery, pointing to himself as he wanted to.
Everything is ok, I suppose, but the sideshow that occurs when there is a direct free kick both amuses and perplexes me.
During the conference around the ball with them, Tielemans was a few yards away conversing with Zinchenko, I believe to keep him from hearing our free kick intentions. Youri approached him in a friendly manner, and they had a conversation while Bailey and Digne and Luiz made plans. Bailey eventually walked away and left to Digne.
Everything was fascinating to see and observe.
Have others noticed the Digne and Bailey joust?
This is an interesting snippet about how they work on free kicks etc, and how they choose who takes them in certain situations. They use ball tracking technology apparently.
https://twitter.com/mattlyynch/status/1733763413359100256
Bailey and Digne are constantly battling for a free kick duties when it comes to taking the direct ones from an angle that suits left footer. Those clear shooting opportunity ones. Douglas Luiz appears on occasion to have to say I'm taking this one. They all want to do well and like to be involved in direct free kicks and who's taking it.
Vs Arsenal
Bailey wasn't the one to take on the occasion I'm thinking of , but he was moving the ball and looking back at McPhee and Emery, pointing to himself as he wanted to.
Everything is ok, I suppose, but the sideshow that occurs when there is a direct free kick both amuses and perplexes me.
During the conference around the ball with them, Tielemans was a few yards away conversing with Zinchenko, I believe to keep him from hearing our free kick intentions. Youri approached him in a friendly manner, and they had a conversation while Bailey and Digne and Luiz made plans. Bailey eventually walked away and left to Digne.
Everything was fascinating to see and observe.
Have others noticed the Digne and Bailey joust?
This is an interesting snippet about how they work on free kicks etc, and how they choose who takes them in certain situations. They use ball tracking technology apparently.
https://twitter.com/mattlyynch/status/1733763413359100256
You can see why he kept McPhee and more importantly how he has pushed that group to elevate the ability they already had to another level. Set pieces are so important to everything we do.
Yes. We were totally wrong. Would you believe it? You, of course knew that he was ace and it would all turn out fine. ;-)
If I was seemingly giving less than 100% in my job I am sure I’d be open to question too. It seems we have a manager who can get the best out of him these days though.
If I was seemingly giving less than 100% in my job I am sure I’d be open to question too. It seems we have a manager who can get the best out of him these days though.
Why do you think he was giving less than 100%? This is exactly the sort of strange assumptions I am on about. None of us have a clue what he does day to day really other than the praise he has received recently from Cutler and some players.
He was kept on by three managers and was considered one of the best in the business before he joined. He always seemed a weird target for people's frustration to me!
Are we still talking about McPhee or are we back to Leon now? Confused!
Were you telling us all that we were wrong about Catweazle back when we were shit Olof? Because it does come across as benefit of hindsight stuff otherwise.
Were you telling us all that we were wrong about Catweazle back when we were shit Olof? Because it does come across as benefit of hindsight stuff otherwise.
I probably mentioned it on here if I can be arsed to look but I don't post much these days. Too busy being hunky.
I definitely mentioned it to people in the real world though. I genuinely always found it bizarre that he got so much shit, it was way worse on social media than here. He was just a weird target, nobody was having a pop at any of the other coaches.
Well Austin is bostin' now. Won't have a word said against Jesus of Bodymoor.
Obviously we see Roadie's influence on some set-pieces when it is out of the normal thing (McGinn's recent jumping jacks thing), and I can't remember the last time we conceded from a corner which must also be down to him. But I wished we scored from more of them.
Obviously we see Roadie's influence on some set-pieces when it is out of the normal thing (McGinn's recent jumping jacks thing), and I can't remember the last time we conceded from a corner which must also be down to him. But I wished we scored from more of them.
Torres has scored from a few hasn't he? Moreno against Legia, Carlos in Europe too from memory. If you look at the height of our team now, I don't think we are ever going to be as strong as MONs team for example. I think we do a very good job defensively for the same reason with Watkins very strong on the front post, Martinez clearing house in the 6 yard box and rest doing their jobs blocking off runs etc
After scoring against Bournemouth and Manchester City, Bailey has provided match-turning assists against Arsenal and Brentford in a quietly brilliant December. He is among the 10 Premier League players to have reached double figures for combined goals and assists, managing the feat in (booyaka, booyaka) 619 minutes – almost half that of the next man on that list in terms of playing time, Hwang Hee-chan (1,227 minutes).
In terms of Europe’s big five leagues, the extensive list of players with more than a couple of league starts and a better rate of goals and assists per 90 minutes than Bailey (1.36) is down to Deniz Undav (1.43), Serhou Guirassy (1.75) and Harry Kane (1.83). Shame Emi Martinez saved that late shot really. Great awareness to spot him off his line.
Bailey is another in a long line of players written off too early. He has been outstanding this season.
Bailey is another in a long line of players written off too early. He has been outstanding this season.
Honestly wouldn't go that far. He has had outstanding moments in games, but still too many games where he has been largely poor throughout. Absolutely no idea what he was doing with that backpass yesterday, but then he puts in the cross for the goal.
Bailey is another in a long line of players written off too early. He has been outstanding this season.
Honestly wouldn't go that far. He has had outstanding moments in games, but still too many games where he has been largely poor throughout. Absolutely no idea what he was doing with that backpass yesterday, but then he puts in the cross for the goal.
His job for the team right now tis to make a difference in the final 3rd, he's doing that as well as anyone in the league. For me he can sit and have a picnic in the centre circle for 85minutes every week so long as the other 5 minutes sees him getting the sort of goals and assists he's given in the last month.
It's his attitude overall that has completely changed. He seems to have really bought into his role. Emery has clearly helped him understand his value, be it as a starter or coming off the bench. It's been great seeing him start to show us the full range of his abilities.
Fair play to Bailey also, for not making more of that tackle by Mee than he might have done (mind you, it almost saved Mee from a sending off). Similarly in the game v Bournemouth, when he was pulled back, and the Bournemouth player should have got a second yellow. Had Bailey made more of almost having the shirt ripped off his back, the referee would probably have issued the second yellow.
I wonder if Man City would swap Grealish for Bailey if they could
And to think people thought his dad was a knob.We live in our fantasy world on H&V and when reality bites, you go to bed a little less of a div at the end of the day.
I think he has been one of our better players this season and consistent which is unusual for a wide man, I'd imagine the posters that were saying "he's a wrong un and should be first out of the club in January" have had a change of heart.
I think he has been one of our better players this season and consistent which is unusual for a wide man, I'd imagine the posters that were saying "he's a wrong un and should be first out of the club in January" have had a change of heart.
No sticker for me thenI think he has been one of our better players this season and consistent which is unusual for a wide man, I'd imagine the posters that were saying "he's a wrong un and should be first out of the club in January" have had a change of heart.
Well done Mr Better-Fan-Than-You, here, have a sticker.
I think he has been one of our better players this season and consistent which is unusual for a wide man, I'd imagine the posters that were saying "he's a wrong un and should be first out of the club in January" have had a change of heart.
Well done Mr Better-Fan-Than-You, here, have a sticker.
I think he has been one of our better players this season and consistent which is unusual for a wide man, I'd imagine the posters that were saying "he's a wrong un and should be first out of the club in January" have had a change of heart.
I would like to see upgrades on Bailey and Buendia, Bailey offers very little when fit and Buendia keeps giving the ball away cheaply.
Bailey offered very little and we certainly need an update, imagine how much better we will be when Emery gets his type of players in.
I think he has been one of our better players this season and consistent which is unusual for a wide man, I'd imagine the posters that were saying "he's a wrong un and should be first out of the club in January" have had a change of heart.
Yes. What fucking idiots those posters were.
Oh, hang on…..I would like to see upgrades on Bailey and Buendia, Bailey offers very little when fit and Buendia keeps giving the ball away cheaply.
Oh and…Bailey offered very little and we certainly need an update, imagine how much better we will be when Emery gets his type of players in.
Just to check - is it alright for everyone to change their mind on Bailey or just you, in your status of SUPERFAN?
Some posters on social media are already sniping at Jacob Ramsey for being crap since he returned from injury almost forgetting how good he was before that injury. Tielemans was being targeted before and Carlos is now deemed useless after a poor performance at Man United. Seems that there always has to be a scapegoat.....
Let's be honest Bailey was poor for 2 years and it's only since UE came here that we are starting to see a player.
Let's be honest Bailey was poor for 2 years and it's only since UE came here that we are starting to see a player.
Injured for a massive chunk of the first year and Gerrard.
I'm hopeful Diaby has a better second half of the season then we start to see the real player next season
Thought today was close to his best game for Villa. Didn't give them a second's rest and scored a belter.
Thought today was close to his best game for Villa. Didn't give them a second's rest and scored a belter.
Had no room at all for his goal and still found half a yard.
He's playing with supreme confidence now in everything he does, it's brilliant to see.
Thought today was close to his best game for Villa. Didn't give them a second's rest and scored a belter.
I was perfectly willing to criticise him when he was "off it", so I am more than happy to heap praise on him for sticking in there, working on his game and improving so much, beyond my expectations!
And obviously, enormous credit to SUE for sticking with him too and helping him become a much more complete player than I ever thought....his defensive contributions have increased enormously too.
Now, when he gets the ball, I'm off my seat!
Well done Bailes - keep it up.
Well done Bailes - keep it up.
He's in great form but we'll have a bit less of that, thank you very much!
Well done Bailes - keep it up.
He's in great form but we'll have a bit less of that, thank you very much!
To be fair, he is a baller, you’ve got to admit?
We have no players listed in that? What a load of sh'ite.
Any idea what he is in now? The BBC gossip column suggesting we will make him one of our best paid players, so guessing about £100k week.
We have no players listed in that? What a load of sh'ite.
You're right on one thing, it's a load of sh'ite.
I prefer to not have players getting plaudits. They're young and it tends to go to their heads in most cases. Under the radar for everything for me. If you're still in doubt just think back to, Carragher I think it was, "Who are they going to get better than Steven Gerrard?"
Opinions count for nothing.
Sounds like Bailey wasn’t 100%.
He looked OK to me.
I would think he wasn't 100% fit to start, if not, a bizzare decision to leave him on the bench. The difference he made was what I expected. Diaby is right off the pace at the moment, he needs to be dropped on that performance.I genuinely think SUE is trying to play Diaby into form....just as he did with Bailey last season...
Well it's absolutely not working, at all.
Has a bad back i read somewhere, hence him not starting.
Leon Bailey is just immense isn't he ?!Our most in form player I’d say at the moment
Most improved player in the league. Really stepped up this year.
His attitude is first rate as well.
It’s true. Keep the faithHis attitude is first rate as well.
And yet people were accusing him of having an attitude problem last year. Many of the same people are now saying similar about Diaby, Duran and Zaniolo.
I'm not saying this to shit stir but rather that we seem to sometimes confuse frustration that things aren't going to plan with players wanting out, or not liking the manager or whatever else.
Craig Butler said he has renegotiated a “lovely contract” for Bailey, and the 26-year-old footballer is “good to go.” Butler further disclosed that the news of the new contract will be announced in the next few days
We will find out of this is true in the coming days, but if anyone deserves one right now it’s our Leon.
Craig Butler said he has renegotiated a “lovely contract” for Bailey, and the 26-year-old footballer is “good to go.” Butler further disclosed that the news of the new contract will be announced in the next few days
We will find out of this is true in the coming days, but if anyone deserves one right now it’s our Leon.
A lovely contract huh? Never heard that adjective used to describe that noun.
He's been excellent this season and seems to have a great attitude starting from the bench so often.
He's been excellent this season and seems to have a great attitude starting from the bench so often.
When he was bad it looked like all the different bits of his body were being controlled by different remotes. Now it's all one coherent fluid motion. The ways he finds to spin and run out of trouble in our right back area...we haven't had someone do that this well since Grealish.
You're right. The intake of breath as Daley gets the ball...When he was bad it looked like all the different bits of his body were being controlled by different remotes. Now it's all one coherent fluid motion. The ways he finds to spin and run out of trouble in our right back area...we haven't had someone do that this well since Grealish.
Trying to explain to my son that there have been a few Villa players down the years who, whenever they receive the ball, the crowd start to take notice and get excited. For me it was Walters, Daley and Grealish but I reckon Bailey could well be up there.
That’s probably the kiss of death….
You're right. The intake of breath as Daley gets the ball...When he was bad it looked like all the different bits of his body were being controlled by different remotes. Now it's all one coherent fluid motion. The ways he finds to spin and run out of trouble in our right back area...we haven't had someone do that this well since Grealish.
Trying to explain to my son that there have been a few Villa players down the years who, whenever they receive the ball, the crowd start to take notice and get excited. For me it was Walters, Daley and Grealish but I reckon Bailey could well be up there.
That’s probably the kiss of death….
Someone put one of those compilation videos on Twitter of Eric Dier looking like he was running the show for Bayern. Eric Dier! If nothing else, it shows me how much harder the Premier League is and why we've had to be patient with him. See also Diaby.
When he was bad it looked like all the different bits of his body were being controlled by different remotes. Now it's all one coherent fluid motion. The ways he finds to spin and run out of trouble in our right back area...we haven't had someone do that this well since Grealish.
Trying to explain to my son that there have been a few Villa players down the years who, whenever they receive the ball, the crowd start to take notice and get excited. For me it was Walters, Daley and Grealish but I reckon Bailey could well be up there.
That’s probably the kiss of death….
When Bailey first came, and was full of the confidence a move to a big club can give you, he was brilliant to watch. Then he was worked out a bit, went off the boil, had a shit manager with shit tactics in charge. Emery and team know what to do, and Bailey is the perfect showcase for that.
Someone put one of those compilation videos on Twitter of Eric Dier looking like he was running the show for Bayern. Eric Dier! If nothing else, it shows me how much harder the Premier League is and why we've had to be patient with him. See also Diaby.
When he was bad it looked like all the different bits of his body were being controlled by different remotes. Now it's all one coherent fluid motion. The ways he finds to spin and run out of trouble in our right back area...we haven't had someone do that this well since Grealish.
Trying to explain to my son that there have been a few Villa players down the years who, whenever they receive the ball, the crowd start to take notice and get excited. For me it was Walters, Daley and Grealish but I reckon Bailey could well be up there.
That’s probably the kiss of death….
I'd add Ashley Young mk I to that. There was a sense that something would happen when we got the ball to him.
He has become the player we all thought or hoped he would become and now in really good, exciting form. Mind you, it does help when defenders allow him to shift the ball to his left foot. Same again in the next two games and we'll be very happy.
I see Tony Morley waving trying to get a mention. When he received the ball and his head went down...
So, apparently Butler said there’s an option to join a ‘bigger’ club in his lovely new contract.
So, apparently Butler said there’s an option to join a ‘bigger’ club in his lovely new contract.
So, apparently Butler said there’s an option to join a ‘bigger’ club in his lovely new contract.
I would from an actual contractual point of view how you draft that - what is the definition of “bigger” and how does it get agreed?
So, apparently Butler said there’s an option to join a ‘bigger’ club in his lovely new contract.
I would from an actual contractual point of view how you draft that - what is the definition of “bigger” and how does it get agreed?
I'd say it doesn't, it's just Butler being a twat and using that terminology. He really is a twat, thankfully he's kept his gob shut so far more than i expected but there's time. I should say its a general release clause most likely based on value.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20 (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20)
He's happy to stay!
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20 (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20)
He's happy to stay!
Nothing to do with Bailey, but what an abomination Twitter is these days. Look at all those absolutely nonsensical replies from Blue Tick bots clogging up the tweet.
"Why don't they sign cristiano and bring him to Europe"
"Poch sacked yet"
"Happy birthday CR7"
"Thought Windows is closed"
"Happy Birthday Ronaldo"
"Looking forward to the deal" x 7.
Well played, Elon. Not a single reply from a genuine Villa fan anywhere near the top.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20 (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20)
He's happy to stay!
Nothing to do with Bailey, but what an abomination Twitter is these days. Look at all those absolutely nonsensical replies from Blue Tick bots clogging up the tweet.
"Why don't they sign cristiano and bring him to Europe"
"Poch sacked yet"
"Happy birthday CR7"
"Thought Windows is closed"
"Happy Birthday Ronaldo"
"Looking forward to the deal" x 7.
Well played, Elon. Not a single reply from a genuine Villa fan anywhere near the top.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20 (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20)
He's happy to stay!
Nothing to do with Bailey, but what an abomination Twitter is these days. Look at all those absolutely nonsensical replies from Blue Tick bots clogging up the tweet.
"Why don't they sign cristiano and bring him to Europe"
"Poch sacked yet"
"Happy birthday CR7"
"Thought Windows is closed"
"Happy Birthday Ronaldo"
"Looking forward to the deal" x 7.
Well played, Elon. Not a single reply from a genuine Villa fan anywhere near the top.
I think that is just the algorithm for you because you are always searching for pictures of ladyboys on your laptop. All my top replies are all people commenting on the news (for better or worse depending on team support) with the top one a KKH fan account asking of any Mbappe to Villa news.
Oh God, all those years of watching Lee Hendrie have made me suspicious that a player's form will turn to shit the second he signs a new deal.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20 (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20)
He's happy to stay!
Yes, there are quite a few Villa replies on mine as well. I follow/engage with a fair few Villa fan accounts, even though most of them seem to be pricks. Always slagging off ‘the fan base’.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20 (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1754513588704677956?s=20)
He's happy to stay!
Nothing to do with Bailey, but what an abomination Twitter is these days. Look at all those absolutely nonsensical replies from Blue Tick bots clogging up the tweet.
"Why don't they sign cristiano and bring him to Europe"
"Poch sacked yet"
"Happy birthday CR7"
"Thought Windows is closed"
"Happy Birthday Ronaldo"
"Looking forward to the deal" x 7.
Well played, Elon. Not a single reply from a genuine Villa fan anywhere near the top.
I think that is just the algorithm for you because you are always searching for pictures of ladyboys on your laptop. All my top replies are all people commenting on the news (for better or worse depending on team support) with the top one a KKH fan account asking of any Mbappe to Villa news.
Yes, there are quite a few Villa replies on mine as well. I follow/engage with a fair few Villa fan accounts, even though most of them seem to be pricks. Always slagging off ‘the fan base’.
New deal signed, according to Pravda Twitter.Confirmed on avfc
I'd say no chance of that. His struggles as a kid would mean he appreciates everything he's got, I reckon.
Signed a new contract.
Signed a new contract.
Really? Are you sure?
Signed a new contract.
Really? Are you sure?
As sure as I can be considering it's on the official site.
Does anyone know when he's due to do his cruciate?
Does anyone know when he's due to do his cruciate?
He dislocated his jaw smiling for the official photo, due back Xmas.
Sensational. Thrilling to watch and end product all the time as well.
As mentioned on MOTD, only Haaland and Salah have more goal involvements (goals/assists) per minute than our Leon.
An article on how well Bailey is playing this season and his stats compared to other top players;
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2024/02/leon-bailey-premier-league-most-in-form-attacker/ (https://theanalyst.com/eu/2024/02/leon-bailey-premier-league-most-in-form-attacker/)
An article on how well Bailey is playing this season and his stats compared to other top players;
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2024/02/leon-bailey-premier-league-most-in-form-attacker/ (https://theanalyst.com/eu/2024/02/leon-bailey-premier-league-most-in-form-attacker/)
When the article shows he is beating Salah and Jota for goal involvement per 90, why did they clarify "A couple of his goals were aided by deflections, granted,"? I expect a couple of Salah's has been, in fact his "200th" definitely was and might even have been given as an OG if it wasn't being celebrated as the milestone one.
I just felt the clarification wasn't needed and seemed to be a justification on how he can be beating Salah.
It looks like it's Love Leon Bailey day today;
https://x.com/premierleague/status/1763131195573825571?s=20 (https://x.com/premierleague/status/1763131195573825571?s=20)
It looks like it'sLoveTry To Flog Leon Bailey day today;
https://x.com/premierleague/status/1763131195573825571?s=20 (https://x.com/premierleague/status/1763131195573825571?s=20)
Surprised how little criticism he has received for today’s performance.
He was atrocious and a major reason why we did not make more of the opportunities we had today.
Maybe it was because Diaby almost managed to out do him for ineptitude.
He looked totally disinterested.
But he was awful today.Surprised how little criticism he has received for today’s performance.
He was atrocious and a major reason why we did not make more of the opportunities we had today.
Maybe it was because Diaby almost managed to out do him for ineptitude.
He looked totally disinterested.
It’s probably because he’s been utterly fantastic this season, arguably one of the best players in the league. So a bad game probably doesn’t warrant throwing him to the wolves.
Van de Ven, had him in his pocket. I thought him going off injured was a result for Bailey, but then we let in those two goals. He looked like he couldn’t wait to get off when he was subbed, hopefully just one of those games and he’ll be back firing for AjaxBut he was awful today.Surprised how little criticism he has received for today’s performance.
He was atrocious and a major reason why we did not make more of the opportunities we had today.
Maybe it was because Diaby almost managed to out do him for ineptitude.
He looked totally disinterested.
It’s probably because he’s been utterly fantastic this season, arguably one of the best players in the league. So a bad game probably doesn’t warrant throwing him to the wolves.
Van de Ven, had him in his pocket. I thought him going off injured was a result for Bailey, but then we let in those two goals. He looked like he couldn’t wait to get off when he was subbed, hopefully just one of those games and he’ll be back firing for AjaxBut he was awful today.Surprised how little criticism he has received for today’s performance.
He was atrocious and a major reason why we did not make more of the opportunities we had today.
Maybe it was because Diaby almost managed to out do him for ineptitude.
He looked totally disinterested.
It’s probably because he’s been utterly fantastic this season, arguably one of the best players in the league. So a bad game probably doesn’t warrant throwing him to the wolves.
I mentioned in the post match thread, but there is so much "he was shit", "no he was shitter" going on no one seemed to want to answer.
What was the excuse given by the commentators on why Bailey shouldn't have got a pen early on? Sky included it in their highlights so just wondering what VAR / Ref saw that a standing leg being hit before the ball was not being a given as a penalty,
He has been brilliant but three factors affected him today I think. 1) both Udogie and Van Der Ven have shit loads of pace so could match him for that while both are twice the size of him too, 2) he had to adapt to a new position in the new formation and looked unsure of where he was meant to be and 3) he looked absolutely knackered.
I mentioned in the post match thread, but there is so much "he was shit", "no he was shitter" going on no one seemed to want to answer.
What was the excuse given by the commentators on why Bailey shouldn't have got a pen early on? Sky included it in their highlights so just wondering what VAR / Ref saw that a standing leg being hit before the ball was not being a given as a penalty,
His worst game for us in 18 months pretty much. Terrible decision making, dribbling and basic passing from pretty much the first minute.Agree, they were our attacking threat and both were poor.
When you're playing a team of Spurs quality it's a huge issue when the front two are miles off it like they were today.
I mentioned in the post match thread, but there is so much "he was shit", "no he was shitter" going on no one seemed to want to answer.
What was the excuse given by the commentators on why Bailey shouldn't have got a pen early on? Sky included it in their highlights so just wondering what VAR / Ref saw that a standing leg being hit before the ball was not being a given as a penalty,
He went down very easily and in instalments, didn't see much contact at all.
Ollie right at the start was a far better shout. Amazed more isn't being made about it as Van De Ven lightly touches the ball and then totally takes Ollie out.
I said as much earlier in the thread, he looks fatigued. Injured or ill?
Gently placing this here: https://twitter.com/johntownley11/status/1770765919217733983
Not our local paper trying to sell our best players again.
Gently placing this here: https://twitter.com/johntownley11/status/1770765919217733983
My how quickly they forget. It's only thanks to Unai's cavernous reserves of coaching work and patience that Leon has recovered from almost unthinkably terrible to being as good as he is now. But you want to go to Massive Clubs like Chelsea, fine, we'd get good money for him now.
Not our local paper trying to sell our best players again.
Asked on the Let’s Be Honest Podcast if Bailey would be interested in a move to Chelsea in the near future, he replied: "You have big teams in England, they call themselves the big six. The Arsenals and the Chelseas. It has always been my dream to play in the Premier League and I am right now.
“Who wouldn’t want to go to a massive team? Especially coming out of Jamaica, do you know how big that is for the country? Especially being who I am as well.
“It would shine more light and that has been my focus whenever overseas. It is to use my platform to be able to shine light on the country and the young talents. It’s difficult for us Jamaicans to even make it to Europe.
"I don't know how to answer that question, but I'd have to see in the moment.”
“I’ve been really focused on being at Aston Villa and finishing the season strong," Bailey said on the Let’s Be Honest Podcast. "It has been one of the best seasons in my career.
“You never know in football, but I am comfortable, happy where I am at. I focus on one thing at a time. I want to continue contributing. Who knows what happens in the future."
Still not the best quote but there we are.
Regardless of intention or interpretation, it still hurts to hear Leon already considering his future when the ink has hardly dried. Could have simply shot it down but instead highlighted that, to him, we are second rate and he can elevate his platform even further. Fair play to him, as he has to do what's best for him.. but being that it's mid-season, I wish he would've been a little more respectful to the club.He tried to initially, saying how happy he is at Villa. But the interviewer pushed again and got the soundbite he wanted.
Regardless of intention or interpretation, it still hurts to hear Leon already considering his future when the ink has hardly dried. Could have simply shot it down but instead highlighted that, to him, we are second rate and he can elevate his platform even further. Fair play to him, as he has to do what's best for him.. but being that it's mid-season, I wish he would've been a little more respectful to the club.He tried to initially, saying how happy he is at Villa. But the interviewer pushed again and got the soundbite he wanted.
When your homegrown darling was desperate for a 'Big 6' move, it's hardly surprising other players think about it too.
Leon has had an exceptional season and whilst I think we will lose some players this summer I don't think he will be one of them.
Fucking hell, he never states he want to go to Chelsea at all. He explains about the he is already playing in the prem, that the big six are certain teams well known, that his dream is to spotlight Jamaican talent, and finally he finishes with "I don't know how to answer that question, we would have to see in the moment". Not once has he stated he wants to move in that. PLEASE watch the first 10 minutes where he is praising the club, the manager and getting tapping up Diaby as soon as he heard he was a target.
Fucking hell, he never states he want to go to Chelsea at all. He explains about the he is already playing in the prem, that the big six are certain teams well known, that his dream is to spotlight Jamaican talent, and finally he finishes with "I don't know how to answer that question, we would have to see in the moment". Not once has he stated he wants to move in that. PLEASE watch the first 10 minutes where he is praising the club, the manager and getting tapping up Diaby as soon as he heard he was a target.
Still not the best quote but there we are.
Even then the quotes used in the paper are not stated the way it comes across in the interview.
Within the first 10 minutes of the interview here for anyone who wants to listen.
Up there with Bacuna being asked a question and answering it honestly while showing zero disrespect to us. Still, some will find a way to get outraged.
The Mail running this is the most Mail thing ever.
That's why I said, "Regardless of intention or interpretation.." He could have just said, I'm not interested in moving and I'm loving my time at Villa, again. Instead, he gives a non-answer which will just drive further speculation.
Would've just preferred if he said, "Why tf would I go to Chelsea right now?!"
Up there with Bacuna being asked a question and answering it honestly while showing zero disrespect to us. Still, some will find a way to get outraged.
...or we react to what evidence we have to hand and change our minds when we see more.
Up there with Bacuna being asked a question and answering it honestly while showing zero disrespect to us. Still, some will find a way to get outraged.
...or we react to what evidence we have to hand and change our minds when we see more.
The evidence of a Meaning Evil headline. Surely we should know by now what they are like.
Not really Bailey's fault though. He wasn't writing his answers.
A response from Craig Butler shooting down what’s being alleged about the Leon interview
https://x.com/tybracey/status/1770851151069536327?s=46
A response from Craig Butler shooting down what’s being alleged about the Leon interview
https://x.com/tybracey/status/1770851151069536327?s=46
I wonder how many times we'd need to qualify for the CL before they stopped talking about the 'big 6'? I don't think once would do it? Maybe a few times. In a row.
I wonder how many times we'd need to qualify for the CL before they stopped talking about the 'big 6'? I don't think once would do it? Maybe a few times. In a row.
Did he only sign-up for 3 more years?
I wonder how many times we'd need to qualify for the CL before they stopped talking about the 'big 6'? I don't think once would do it? Maybe a few times. In a row.
The way I saw it, the big two used to be Scouse and Manc Reds, then Wenger forced Arsenal into the mix before the Roubles forced Chelsea into the big four. Not sure when Citeh joined the ranks and whether it was before or after Spurs because they didn't get into the CL until at least 5 years after they became soaked in oil. At least all the other teams have won something during the period they joined in.
Well, we haven't really been fashionable since the 1890s.
It's a shame as John Townley is clearly a fan and in my opinion has significantly improved the Villa reporting standards there. But clicks are their income, so sometimes I guess he has to appease his overlords.Up there with Bacuna being asked a question and answering it honestly while showing zero disrespect to us. Still, some will find a way to get outraged.
...or we react to what evidence we have to hand and change our minds when we see more.
The evidence of a Meaning Evil headline. Surely we should know by now what they are like.
Ow yuh cya misconstrue Leon Bailey words wen yuh cyaa undastan half of wah him say.
It's a shame as John Townley is clearly a fan and in my opinion has significantly improved the Villa reporting standards there. But clicks are their income, so sometimes I guess he has to appease his overlords.Up there with Bacuna being asked a question and answering it honestly while showing zero disrespect to us. Still, some will find a way to get outraged.
...or we react to what evidence we have to hand and change our minds when we see more.
The evidence of a Meaning Evil headline. Surely we should know by now what they are like.
He won't have written the headline.
He won't have written the headline.
That's what they pay you the big bucks for.
He won't have written the headline.
That's what they pay you the big bucks for.
I DO write my headlines! There are no subs in my game.
He won't have written the headline.
That's what they pay you the big bucks for.
I DO write my headlines! There are no subs in my game.
Oh yes, who could forget:
"I compared Birds Eye Fish Fingers with Aldi, Asda, Lidl, Tesco and Morrisons and one was better"
He won't have written the headline.
That's what they pay you the big bucks for.
I DO write my headlines! There are no subs in my game.
Oh yes, who could forget:
"I compared Birds Eye Fish Fingers with Aldi, Asda, Lidl, Tesco and Morrisons and one was better"
Have you been reading my emails?
I wonder how many times we'd need to qualify for the CL before they stopped talking about the 'big 6'? I don't think once would do it? Maybe a few times. In a row.
The good news is if Bailey is going all out for his dream move our tactics for the remainder of the season should be get the ball to Leon.
I'm still puzzled about where his performance V spurs came from. he was beyond shit. Was he playing with flu, just didn't fancy it or something else? To be fair he's usually turned up in the big games
The good news is if Bailey is going all out for his dream move our tactics for the remainder of the season should be get the ball to Leon.
I'm still puzzled about where his performance V spurs came from. he was beyond shit. Was he playing with flu, just didn't fancy it or something else? To be fair he's usually turned up in the big games
They doubled up on him and he got no support from Konsa. He still looked our most likely outlet and I was surprised we took him off.
This was the main problem. Konsa gave them absolutely nothing to think about which left Bailey swamped.They doubled up on him and he got no support from Konsa. He still looked our most likely outlet and I was surprised we took him off.
Wouldn't have taken him off either. It was too late for subs really, another stoppage we didn't need. It was a bit Bradford esque too with effectively 4 x forwards on. Duran and Watkins getting in each other's way.
Konsa was shocking really defensively and effectively standing behind Bailey offered zero with the ball. Missed a sitter with that header too. At least Cash would have tried going on the overlap and getting in behind Brentford.
I like us to get Reece James if qualify for Champions League. He would be excellent addition as a right full back who attacks but can also come inside the middle areas of the pitch.There's no doubt that when fit he's superb going forward. But it's a brave club that spends money on anyone that injury prone.
I like us to get Reece James if qualify for Champions League. He would be excellent addition as has super delivery and a goal threat. Would work well as a right full back who attacks but can also come inside the middle areas of the pitch.
I fucking love leon. 30m absolute bargain
Apologies 8 assists, I read nine yesterday somewhere. For all games it is 13 and 12. But he has also been on the pitch for 900 less minutes then Ollie this season.
The maturity from this young man is so wonderful to see and hear. What a season he’s had.
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1779837322940293516?s=46
I loved how his first thought after scoring was to sprint towards the away fans. Not in a contrived way either, just a genuinely delighted, want to celebrate with you lot kind of way.
What's that, 9 now for the season? We talk about having a second striker who can get amongst the goals but nowadays it's more about the wide players contributing and he's doing that.
This season has been 3 seasons in the making and that's worth remembering when we're getting frustrated with Diaby. I'm sure he'll come good in time, our coaching is too good now for it not to.
We can improve a lot next season by having a better goals against column.
Surely shoe in for player of season? I mean ollies the other but bailey ha simproved so much from last year
There's so much to admire about Leon Bailey, but I just love the way he sees himself as part of a squad of players, both in the way he performs on the pitch, as starter or sub, and in the way he stresses the importance of the squad in his interviews. He's a smashing fella.
Is he a penalty-taker for Jamaica? - I had him down as pretty reliable from the spot ...
Leadership and maturity
https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1781295048459510049?s=46
Is he a penalty-taker for Jamaica? - I had him down as pretty reliable from the spot ...
Of the 5 we took, two could have been saved if the keeper guessed correctly (Tielemans and Bailey), and three were in places that if the keeper saved it, you would wonder how. Both Cash and Luiz pretty much put it in off the post, which is probably how they get them past Martinez in training.
Leadership and maturity
https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1781295048459510049?s=46
Leadership and maturity
https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1781295048459510049?s=46
That gave me a little shiver down my spine 💪🏼🙏🏼
I watched a compilation of Arsenal fans reacting to the Villa goals against them and some of them seemed to be really annoyed that it was Bailey specifically that scored the first one. Anyone know what that's about?
I watched a compilation of Arsenal fans reacting to the Villa goals against them and some of them seemed to be really annoyed that it was Bailey specifically that scored the first one. Anyone know what that's about?
If they were Jamaican, they aren't enamoured with Bailey as much as we are.
That Everton game gave me solace during his barren year. You don't do that without serious ability. I don't think he's played that well since, which sounds like a criticism, but isn't. He was unbelievable that night.
He played two of most outrageously brilliant passes today that Sid would bow down to, and he scored.
The boy is a fucking wizard.
He played two of most outrageously brilliant passes today that Sid would bow down to, and he scored.
The boy is a fucking wizard.
I thought his pass to Rogers was actually bettered by Watkins pass for Diaby.
He played two of most outrageously brilliant passes today that Sid would bow down to, and he scored.
The boy is a fucking wizard.
I thought his pass to Rogers was actually bettered by Watkins pass for Diaby.
He played two of most outrageously brilliant passes today that Sid would bow down to, and he scored.
The boy is a fucking wizard.
I thought his pass to Rogers was actually bettered by Watkins pass for Diaby.
I preferred Bailey's to Rogers, love a defence splitting pass with the outside of the boot.