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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: BC Villain on June 17, 2021, 09:02:23 PM
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A decade today.
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Shudder
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Probably my most memorable day on H&V as during the afternoon (a Sunday as I recall) rumours turned to disbelief to shock and anger. It was the day that H&V put the CNN OJ car chase rolling news to shame.
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It had to have been a wind up
but it wasn't
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Can someone explain what this thread is about.
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Can someone explain what this thread is about.
We appointed a manager who had just presided over a relegation season at Small Heath. It would be like an Everton manager getting the club relegated and then immediately being offered the Liverpool job. It also meant it was a rather busy and surreal day here on H&V as the barely believable rumours started to gain momentum and rumour turned to disbelief, then shock and then disappointment and or anger depending on how you took the news. I think I can say without much argument that the vast majority of us on here were far from happy with the news.
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Ten years on and the only plausible reaction remains what the actual fuck did we do that for?
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I prefer to treat the TSM1 season a bit like Dallas treated the death of Bobby Ewing. (For those too young to have any clue about what I'm talking about - it was all a dream/nightmare)
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I found a couple of links if you really want feel bad.
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=43882.0
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwty8sOwiAUhOFXMW7czAZKtV2612cg9HAiGFoM4C3h4aWmu_m_ZIx9mYXY1kMVdV-n9F-QEBIKPZSCFBBHqA7ihK6HGCBHqAFqbIfs4ltTnB-BC7frSs_pzlR0XMJ3k5iKtj61Mpk2aOGtnvNtbTaJXJNz4M_uShf22f0A9nQ06Q..;start=60
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Ten years on and the only plausible reaction remains what the actual fuck did we do that for?
Didn't Alex McLeish get a glowing reference from Alex Ferguson which impressed Randy?
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Not enough of us protested this appointment and casualy allowed Randy Learner to vindictively show us who was the boss.
It was a ****** move but, in the main, we took it lying down.
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What the fuck was anyone at the club thinking with that appointment?
Good bad indifferent appointments. Nothing comes close in terms of being utterly inexplicable
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That was the day the Lerner dream died. That was the beginning of the doom and gloom that culminated in our relegation five years later.
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Ten years on and the only plausible reaction remains what the actual fuck did we do that for?
Didn't Alex McLeish get a glowing reference from Alex Ferguson which impressed Randy?
Yes SirAlex had a habit of recommending dull useless proteges, save Hughes who he fell out with and who's teams seemed to be the only ones who didn't roll over and die in matches against his
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I still blame MON for the total shower of shit over the years following his petulance
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One of the big milestones in our demise. Add to that:
Bradford
Benteke and Delph leaving
Garde
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3-0 Preston
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3-0 Preston?
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Start of our comeback that was in my view.
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Do you mean the 3-3 with Preston? I don't think there was a 3-0. There were some 2-0 results, either way
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Hard to imagine replacing a high achieving manager like Houllier with the relegated small heath manager. The mind still boggles.
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We've had four 3-0 defeats against Preston in our history. Scottish manager every time !
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Hard to imagine replacing a high achieving manager like Houllier with the relegated small heath manager. The mind still boggles.
I was relatively optimistic, I must say. Obviously I was wrong!
I never warmed to Houllier, I never felt his heart was in it (no pun intended). I don't watch PL football unless Villa are involved, so I wasn't too aware of his eye-bleeding style of play, I just saw a bloke who'd managed to win a trophy with a Blues club, who went on to be relegated precisely because they were Blues, and thought 'if he cares, he'll be an upgrade'.
I was complacent, and actually thought SHA would be annoyed that we'd stolen their manager. The fact my SHA-supporting mate sent me a message as soon as it was confirmed which simply read 'HAHAHAHAHA' began to raise concerns. That said, it was a surprise and a disappointment quite how unutterably dreadful that year actually was - not to mention the subsequent five.
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Hard to imagine replacing a high achieving manager like Houllier with the relegated small heath manager. The mind still boggles.
I was relatively optimistic, I must say. Obviously I was wrong!
I never warmed to Houllier, I never felt his heart was in it (no pun intended). I don't watch PL football unless Villa are involved, so I wasn't too aware of his eye-bleeding style of play, I just saw a bloke who'd managed to win a trophy with a Blues club, who went on to be relegated precisely because they were Blues, and thought 'if he cares, he'll be an upgrade'.
I was complacent, and actually thought SHA would be annoyed that we'd stolen their manager. The fact my SHA-supporting mate sent me a message as soon as it was confirmed which simply read 'HAHAHAHAHA' began to raise concerns. That said, it was a surprise and a disappointment quite how unutterably dreadful that year actually was - not to mention the subsequent five.
So the word filter changes 'd0gsh1t' to 'Blues' eh? Nice.
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I think it’s the 2-0 against Preston when Di Matteo got the chop.
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Ten years on and the only plausible reaction remains what the actual fuck did we do that for?
Didn't Alex McLeish get a glowing reference from Alex Ferguson which impressed Randy?
The General's "imagine what a manager like McLeish could do with Randy's backing!!!!1111" was the surest sign ever that things probably weren't going to go very well under Lerner from then.
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The day before the dreadful announcement was made I was waiting at the roundabout near Wing Yip Cash & Carry heading towards Aston when I spotted an XJ coming from the opposite direction. I didn't see the person driving but did recognise the car as similar to the one parked outside their main entrance in the "team Manager" space when I had been there on a prawn sandwich visit that season. A shiver ran through me realising that speculation may be true. Not sure if he had been to Villa Park or even if he was in town but it was very close for comfort. I had a very bad day that day and of course even worse followed.
HOW COULD WE? Nothing personal against the man as I met him at BMH in the season that followed and he was a brilliant host but how could we?
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One of our worst ever summers. N'Zogbia was his big signing! Followed by a dull season in which we survived by the skin of our teeth playing defensive football.
Also, the attendances dropped dramatically- they screwed up. Massively.
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Sorry, 2-0 preston when di matteo was sacked.
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I found a couple of links if you really want feel bad.
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=43882.0
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwty8sOwiAUhOFXMW7czAZKtV2612cg9HAiGFoM4C3h4aWmu_m_ZIx9mYXY1kMVdV-n9F-QEBIKPZSCFBBHqA7ihK6HGCBHqAFqbIfs4ltTnB-BC7frSs_pzlR0XMJ3k5iKtj61Mpk2aOGtnvNtbTaJXJNz4M_uShf22f0A9nQ06Q..;start=60
I still feel the same way I did on page 2 of that thread.
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I was having a sarnie in the M&S car park over in Northern Ireland, telling my brother to calm down as it was all clearly bullshit when the news was confirmed, think I was shock the rest of the day