On #avfc and Emi Buendia: initial fee of around £30m agreed with Norwich. Personal terms agreed and he has undergone his medical in Argentina today. Add-ons included, plus a sell-on. Will be a record signing for Villa and record sale for Norwich #ncfc
My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
Arsenal fans are starting to emerge all very salty and Norwich for whatever reason hate us. They still look at us as rivals with them to go down. Twats
My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
When I read the first sentence, I sang out loud 'for the claret and blue'. It could be a catchy tune, well done you!
Hope it gets done. Hopefully becomes a major player and takes some of the pressure off Jack.
My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
When I read the first sentence, I sang out loud 'for the claret and blue'. It could be a catchy tune, well done you!
Hope it gets done. Hopefully becomes a major player and takes some of the pressure off Jack.
Thanks Steve, those lyrics are in my head now!
So pleased if this gets done early. We really do mean business, no one at this club is fucking around anymore.
...and we’ll be there to see it in August!
No doubt having missed out on Buendia Arsenal will turn their attention to signing Jack.
Obligatory YouTube video to go with the thread
Obligatory YouTube video to go with the thread
Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
Properly excited about this one. He looks ridiculously good.
Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
Not over the line yet.
I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
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I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
Identify the target. Get the deal done early. That's the sort of transfer business I approve of. That Arsenal fans are bemoaning the fact that they can't now compete "with the likes of Aston Villa" just makes it all the sweeter.
Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
Not over the line yet.
Window doesn't open til Wednesday.
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Agent Martinez
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Agent Martinez
VP is going to be rocking.
Hang on to your seats FFS.
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Agent Martinez
I have it on good authority that what you don't see is on Emi Martinez's camera it says "fuck tinpot club Arsenal" in Spanish thus the reaction from both players.
Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Just had a look on the pinkun. They’re a strange lot those Norwich fans, seeing us as rivals for staying up. I guess they’ve not really followed the PL since they were relegated. Thank god we’ve improved the team immeasurably since our last day survival. Onwards and upwards
Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Those stats make Jack look human.I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
He was involved in 32 goals last year (15 goals, 17 assists) and ended up Championship Player of the Season. That's a proper player. And in a squad with a number of internationals and one of the very best in Europe he should only continue to contribute and develop as a player. He just seems very intelligent on and off the ball and he despite his size clearly has no problem mixing it up and winning the ball back.
Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Yes I suppose they have been kind enough to let us have a free run on Emi as Jack in on 5.45 from Moor Street tomorrow heading for the Emirates.Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
I’ve seen a few say that this means Grealish is on his way to them. Course it does petal.
I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
Dina doll. SakaThat would be very funny.
One Emiliano theres only one Emiliano. One Emiliano.......No; here's two Emilianos ...
Have been looking around the net at comments, Christ alive there's some bitterness out there for us, mostly it seems from the kind of clubs who's fans felt because we were poor for a few seasons they were in some way contemporaries.
I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
Last time I checked footballers in the Championship are grown men, often more aggressive than their more refined contemporaries in the PL. You don’t need to be physical to be good. You just need to be good. And Buendia is very good.
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I think they both knew at the time of this photo
Would love to hear a Villa Park. rendition of “there’s only two Emilianos, two Emilianos!”...Brilliant
Why are Norwich selling him?
Why are Norwich selling him?
Why are Norwich selling him?
Because we're giving them load of money
Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
I think Chilwell likes the Villa.
Im not sure about this one, mainly because ive payed little attention to him really but looking at the Norwich forum they seem to think he's better than Maddison and we have gotten an absolute bargain. Welcome Emi.
Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
Surely the embarrassment of being beaten to the signing of a footballer is dwarfed by the embarrassment of being the son of Piers Morgan.
They'd got a £30m hole in their finances because of COVID. Presumably they've figured by selling one of Aarons, Cantwell, and Buendia they can keep the other 2, and won't be financially screwed. Which to me seems fair enough, we'd be doing the same if our owners weren't minted.Why are Norwich selling him?
Think it's the model they've adopted. Go up, take the money and go back down. Repeat.
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
All I'm going to say is that today has been a Buen dia.
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
Early Birthday and Christmas present for Emi as well as us. His birthday is December 25th.
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
Can't remember the last time we signed someone and every single supporter of their former club was gutted and thought we'd signed their one outstanding player.
Young from Watford?
All I'm going to say is that today has been a Buen dia.
That's very good 👍
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
One I particularly liked was ‘Villa isn’t the step up I was hoping he’d take’ Precious lot aren’t they.
Bit disappointed if I’m honest, I mean, he’s with the Argentine National team and there’s that little fella that’s quite handy and we haven’t signed him yet.
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
Great point.
That Lee Johnson ******, too, when he was their manager. Jesus.
Remember we played them here, they were doing well and saying all week how they were going to turn us over, Johnson was telling the press we're not famous anymore, not a big club anymore etc etc, then we put 5 past them and he shat the bed in his press conference because we were being disrespectful by singing '5-0 on your big day out' (or whatever the score was at the time).
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
Great point.
That Lee Johnson ******, too, when he was their manager. Jesus.
Remember we played them here, they were doing well and saying all week how they were going to turn us over, Johnson was telling the press we're not famous anymore, not a big club anymore etc etc, then we put 5 past them and he shat the bed in his press conference because we were being disrespectful by singing '5-0 on your big day out' (or whatever the score was at the time).
Yep and funny he ballsed up Sunderland’s promotion. Nothing against Sunderland, but funny for Johnson.
It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
Can't remember the last time we signed someone and every single supporter of their former club was gutted and thought we'd signed their one outstanding player.
Young from Watford?
Martinez last year got that sort of reaction. They were gutted.
Actually I have a long standing friend Norwich fan of 30 years and he is fairly philosophical.
No guessing what’s currently topping the charts over on SHA. Bless.
Excellent signing if it happens, and now it looks like we've beaten one of their favourite clubs to a player how long till the media start the baseless speculative bullshit about Jack?
Oh and Norwich fans opinions? Who fucking cares, deep down they know that every member of staff from the 1st team players to the tea lady would walk over broken glass to join the Villa.
Sorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
Sorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
Last time I checked footballers in the Championship are grown men, often more aggressive than their more refined contemporaries in the PL. You don’t need to be physical to be good. You just need to be good. And Buendia is very good.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
I think they both knew at the time of this photo
Hopefully a good analogy Excl.
So… 10 years ago, if someone was to say to me that Villa would be relegated for several years and then promoted through the playoffs with new owners, serious intent and financial power, be sat on quite possibly Britain’s greatest talent since Gazza and a core of the team made of South Americans - featuring 2 Brazilian internationals and 2 Argentinian internationals.
I’d have laughed at them.
What a time to be a Villa fan.
Yes I’ve been drinking wine. Why not?! I’ll probably have a headache in the morning!
IFOTCSTSSorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
No but every reputable journalist or site of note is reporting all of the formalities are completed. Relax, enjoy the news and the warm sunshine of optimism.
Our midfield:
McGinn
Douglas
Grealish
Buendia
Sanson
Carney
Ramsey
Nakamba
😏
When Yorke left us I didn't like it but understood why and his medals justify his decision.It's called reality, which Norwich fans don't seem to have much grasp of.Excellent signing if it happens, and now it looks like we've beaten one of their favourite clubs to a player how long till the media start the baseless speculative bullshit about Jack?
Oh and Norwich fans opinions? Who fucking cares, deep down they know that every member of staff from the 1st team players to the tea lady would walk over broken glass to join the Villa.
And how do you feel when Manure fans say the same about us?
Food chain.
Fans of other clubs are starting to wank over us a bit.I agree. We'll be unplayable, you couldn't double mark all 3. Very real possibility that Ollie will notch up 20+ goals next season.
Saying a forward line of Buendia, Grealish and Traore with Watkins up top would make them jizz on the ceiling.
My friend who is a scouse Liverpool fan said that BTW.
I'm excited to see who else we sign this summer and where we go.
Can he take a corner?
My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
Fans of other clubs are starting to wank over us a bit.What other fans don't yet realise is that we have Chuk, Philogene-Bidace and Barry to weave into the mix as well: a surprise package or two will give our opponents even more to think about.
Saying a forward line of Buendia, Grealish and Traore with Watkins up top would make them jizz on the ceiling.
My friend who is a scouse Liverpool fan said that BTW.
I'm excited to see who else we sign this summer and where we go.
Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
I see it as insurance, but not against Jack leaving, more a lesson learned about how our form dipped when he was unavailable, or off form personally. This just feels like an attempt to make us less of a one-man creative force. I think it's a brilliant sign of how the club is run these days. "This was an issue last season, how do we fix it? Oh, right, well let's get the deal done as quickly as possible with the least amount of fuss imaginable"
From the clips he looks like a SJM type player or am I missing something?
So not a wide right player.
Posted 38 minutes ago
1 hour ago, Wardogz said:
This is such an embarrassing topic for us. There's no reason to hate Villa. Delete.
Yes there is, Paul Lambert, they came here to our final home game and Villa fans were so arrogant about Lambert going to them, pre game we’re arseholes and during the match. The sort of arrogance you’d expect from Leeds fans.
Well that worked out well! Now we’ll see if Buendia can make that transition to a new team without Pukki
They seem to dislike Mings more than is healthy as well. Did he do something to offend them sometime?
Played for Ipswich I guess.
Pukki does have brilliant movement from the Buendia clips.
swap that for ollie
Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.I see it as insurance, but not against Jack leaving, more a lesson learned about how our form dipped when he was unavailable, or off form personally. This just feels like an attempt to make us less of a one-man creative force. I think it's a brilliant sign of how the club is run these days. "This was an issue last season, how do we fix it? Oh, right, well let's get the deal done as quickly as possible with the least amount of fuss imaginable"
Delaney is close to the Manchester clubs, and doubtless from City's point of view they can't imagine why Jack wouldn't go there this summer, but nobody I've seen who reports close to the Villa seems to think it's inevitable at all. Evans in the Athletic reported we want Buendia to play with Jack.
A couple of years ago we played them on the last day of the season. They won the Championship title on our pitch and a packed Villa Park allowed them their big moment and applauded them. The hallowed turf of the fifth most successful club in English football history was given over to them for the day. But anyone who understands football in this country knows it was a bump in the road for us. Well now we're back from those dark days and are elbowing our way back to the top where we belong. Sorry if we've ruffled a few Canary feathers but 30+ million quid landing in their account should soften the blow. There's going to be plenty more clubs who get their egos deflated by us but to be honest I couldn't give a fuck. As David Bradley put it in the brilliant "140 years" video WE'RE ASTON VILLA.They seem to dislike Mings more than is healthy as well. Did he do something to offend them sometime?
Throw in a bit of casual curry-based racism about the B6 area and you have yourself a perfect storm of a fanbase in total meltdown.
Why would Grealish join Arsenal? Why? Hubristic, pompous, entitled wankpots.
Why would Grealish join Arsenal? Why? Hubristic, pompous, entitled wankpots.
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
because we used that money to buy McGinn.
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
The arrival of NSWE and us pulling our shit together on and off the pitch has co-incided with quite a level of 'hatred' from some random clubs. I fucking love it.
The arrival of NSWE and us pulling our shit together on and off the pitch has co-incided with quite a level of 'hatred' from some random clubs. I fucking love it.
Wolves, Brizzle, Naawich. We're shite club kryptonite.
Long may it continue. But I'll be even happier when the likes of Yanited and the Redscouse hate us again.
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
What when Xia was running the show?
... the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening...
I'm suspicious of anyone with a name that is clearly from a regenerated player on Championship Manager.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
Kante was £5.5m. Still an absolute bargain, which means they got Kante, Mahrez and Vardy for c. £7m, or just over half a Ross McCormack.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
Kante was £5.5m. Still an absolute bargain, which means they got Kante, Mahrez and Vardy for c. £7m, or just over half a Ross McCormack.
Konsa £2.5m, McGinn £2.75m. Not too shabby, those cheap investments.
Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Robbie from Arsenal Fan TV was crying into his cornflakes this morning, saying it was embarrassing that Villa outbid Arsenal. All very amusing.
Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
He's not.
Robbie from Arsenal Fan TV was crying into his cornflakes this morning, saying it was embarrassing that Villa outbid Arsenal. All very amusing.Once club on the way up, the other on the way down....
I have a feeling that if he can prevent himself getting sent off too many times, he'll be good for us.
And both Norwich & Arsenal fans seem to think we are going down next season, maybe what nearly happened 2 season ago, and they thought we all overachieved this year. Pardon? They don't seem to think Leeds didn't overachieve. It's a funny old game isn't it. 😃🤣
Konsa has the potential to be the next rio ferdinand no doubt at all in my mind and the price we paid was a snip. If we were to sell konsa at the end of next season after another great season and he would be 60 million plus.
Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.
Women eh? :o
They probably see it as we were in the Championship together, came up together 2 years ago, and we just survived whereas they went back down. In that sense, yeah, it could easily have been the other way around.
What seems to have gone over their heads is that doing that is normal for them, even represents some level of success, whereas for us it's an aberration and represents the club's worst period in nearly 50 years, and quite possibly (not checked this) our 2nd or 3rd longest spell outside the top division.
Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.
Women eh? :o
Obviously not done yet, but this would feel like something’s changed. Head to head with Arsenal for an exciting young Argentinian international, and we won / he chose us. Can’t remember that much at Villa and I’m no spring chicken!It’s great business. That’s what real proven ambition gets you. Let’s have more of this
Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.Did you tell her he's a handsome Latino with muscular leg's? You know, the important stuff ;)
Women eh? :o
My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
Tomi Angél í think. Jpa posted some videos of him when younger. Seemed a real talentMy wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Tomi Angél í think. Jpa posted some videos of him when younger. Seemed a real talentMy wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Gone quiet for something that was meant to be done within 24 hours.....
Nigel Angel not Dave.My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
Gone quiet for something that was meant to be done within 24 hours.....
The transfer window doesn't open til Wednesday, so I'd imagine nothing can be officially announced before then.
Nigel Angel not Dave.My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
I hope the bloke who did Micah Richards medical is off the payroll
Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
Even if you didn't watch the Championship last season, can't you remember him in our promotion season and in the PL with Norwich? He's an excellent player and with him and Jack teams aren't going to know what to do. They'll certainly have to think twice before doubling up on Jack now.I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
Even if you didn't watch the Championship last season, can't you remember him in our promotion season and in the PL with Norwich? He's an excellent player and with him and Jack teams aren't going to know what to do. They'll certainly have to think twice before doubling up on Jack now.I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
Last season's stats.....
3rd - Combined goals & assists
4th - Shots per game
1st - Big chances created
1st - Key passes per game
6th - Successful dribbles per game
4th - Penalties won
1st - Through balls per game
7th - Tackles per game
That last stat is the most telling. A creative player who isn't afraid to get stuck in. You can see him, Watkins and McGinn just harassing the opposition high up the pitch, and winning those challenges. There's a high press and a high press.....
Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
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Grealish and Buendia Heatmaps.....
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Going back to this, my mate told me yesterday to look at the colours on the table.
They knew alright.
Fucking hell, how big is his cock?
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Buendia and Grealish Heatmaps.....
*edit as got them the wrong way round.
My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
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Buendia and Grealish Heatmaps.....
*edit as got them the wrong way round.
First one is a bloke sat in a chair with his feet up watching TV, either shaking his fist or...ahem....enjoying himself
Second one is is someone giving the thumbs down whilst simultaneously punching a floating loaf of bread
I hadn’t previously seen this video montage of him but it’s really excellent. Superb two footed player who works hard wherever he is on the pitch.
https://twitter.com/super6/status/1401838609897082880?s=21
My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
Hang on a minute. Half of the "Big 6" don't get close to us on points gained in the top flight of English football, so for most of our history we've completed at a level above them.
What Norwich fans don't realise is those three seasons in the Championship, two of which resulted in a play off final and one of those in promotion, represents one of the worst periods in our entire history.
Any one of those seasons would've been a good season by Norwich's standards!
Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
Hang on a minute. Half of the "Big 6" don't get close to us on points gained in the top flight of English football, so for most of our history we've completed at a level above them.
What Norwich fans don't realise is those three seasons in the Championship, two of which resulted in a play off final and one of those in promotion, represents one of the worst periods in our entire history.
Any one of those seasons would've been a good season by Norwich's standards!
Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
3 years ago we'd just fought off administration for an unpaid tax bill.
Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
Bloody hell Lew, did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
I hope not, he was shite for Citeh.
Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
I hope not, he was shite for Citeh.
Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
3 years ago we'd just fought off administration for an unpaid tax bill.
8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
i wonder where he is now🤔
8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
What, he’s chasing Tony Moon?
i wonder where he is now🤔
Last seen chasing a football near the moon
cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
I hope it’s a 5 year deal not a 4 year.
You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
You have to love the delusion.Reads like it's been written by a 10 year old.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
I do prefer it to the "this club is finished Robbie" shouty nonsense on YouTube.
Arsenal have no European football next season and players like Smith-Rowe, Saka, Martinelli, Willock (back from Newcastle), Pepe, Aubemeyang and Lacazette to form a front six. Sign a solid central midfielder to play next to Partey and I think they'll have a decent season.
I enjoyed laughing at them because we got the player and they didn't, but I think the obituaries in some quarters are being written way too soon. They ended the season with five straight wins.
There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
Let's hope they're wrong. My guess is they're guessing.
There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
The article also said about how he had chosen us sometime ago by the sound of it and he never seemed interested in Arsenal.
You have to love the delusion.Reads like it's been written by a 10 year old.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
If the Athletic piece was written by Gregg Evans, let's remember that we're dealing with a man who doesn't know how to spell Greg.
I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
He’s a baggie
I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I used to work with a Karen.
She pronounced it care-un.
I prefer Binge it, myself.I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I used to work with a Karen.
She pronounced it care-un.
My sister in law used to work for Microsoft (in London). After working with so many yanks for so long, she started using their pronunciation of Moscow - "Moss cow"
She also told me that at Microsoft, people don't say 'google it' they actually say 'Bing it'.
I'd like to see the stretchy shirt photo now please. And the inane interview asking him how much he's looking forward to running out infront of the Holte End.
mucho hombre
I'd like to see the stretchy shirt photo now please. And the inane interview asking him how much he's looking forward to running out infront of the Holte End.
Yes, agree. The official club statement suggested that the medical would be done after the Colombia World Cup Qualifier, enabling the completion of the transfer??
Since he’s been with us he’s done nothing so far
not writing him yet off but was expecting a bit more for 35 million quid to be honest
Villa Lew seriously? :D
I'm 51 and dancing round like a little kid ;D
Since he’s been with us he’s done nothing so far
not writing him yet off but was expecting a bit more for 35 million quid to be honest
What do you expect with Smith playing him out of position. Smith Out!
Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not then we are very fickle and will soon want you gone
Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not thenFixedwe areI am very fickle and will soon want you gone
Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not then we are very fickle and will soon want you gone
And we’ll sign for Virgin.
Comes across very well. Good level of English. I thought from the Athletic article and some of the clips that he was a bit of a gobby imp (maybe it's the slight resemblance to Maupay) but smiley chap, seems humble and hard-working. Good looking chap too...maybe in yellow he just looks fierce and ugly.
He didn't name-check any of our players but I'm sure Matt Targett is big in Buenos Aires.
Contrary to the usual Twitter noise about Buendia’s signing meaning Jack’s off I think it actually further reinforces him staying. Buendia has signed to play with Grealish not instead of him.
Contrary to the usual Twitter noise about Buendia’s signing meaning Jack’s off I think it actually further reinforces him staying. Buendia has signed to play with Grealish not instead of him.
That's my take, too. You'd imagine they are using Grealish specifically to sell the club to potential signings.
As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.Hope so. This is the most excited I've been about a signing for a long time - it just feels like a great fit to me.
As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.Hope so. This is the most excited I've been about a signing for a long time - it just feels like a great fit to me.
I’d say that’s it, on the right hand side. A massive upgrade on Trez, although I do like Trez!As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.Hope so. This is the most excited I've been about a signing for a long time - it just feels like a great fit to me.
What’s his best position? from what I have read attacking right, but cuts inside.
What's he done (apart from signing for us)?Look like Jon Richardson.
First day Video,
https://youtu.be/_LQAzPjt_6g
From what Norwich fans said about Emi being the best player there ever seen down Carrow Road i just cannot wait to see him play in the Villa Colours.
First day Video,
https://youtu.be/_LQAzPjt_6g
From what Norwich fans said about Emi being the best player there ever seen down Carrow Road i just cannot wait to see him play in the Villa Colours.
Whilst ostensibly dull as ditchwater, that video is strangely fascinating!
Crikey, that looked hard work. Nice to see a bit of Conor…I wish him all the best.
Mr and Mrs B settling in
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I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
Buendia and Watkins in my first draft. Will have Martiez too if funds allow, but looking tricky. Are you in the H&V league?I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
It definitely is, mate. Kept picking Watkins and he didn't score. Dropped him and he scored a hat-trick. Called up Grealish and he got injured straightaway.
No Villa players this season.
How amazing does Bodymoor look!!
Sport science is light years away from even 15 years ago
I will be, I think Dave normally sets it up so will leave in his capable hands.
And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Yeah, I never look in the Games ForumI didn't know there was a games forum.
And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
I just cannot wait to see Emi playing for us. For me this is the most exciting signing we've made for a good few years. He's straight in my FPL team, although I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
Well he takes all the free kicks and corners and he's both footed so I think he's a viable option.
And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
Well he takes all the free kicks and corners and he's both footed so I think he's a viable option.
That's what they said about Tonev 😉
Any excuse to have another sly dig.
Any excuse to have another sly dig.
I thought the smily emoji might have helped but it wasn't a sly dig. Just mild disbelief at how excited Footy's getting about a player we haven't even seen in a Villa shirt yet, to the point where he's declaring him better than arguably the best player in our history!!
Saw his two passes for Ollie last night.
Ball tingling doesn't do them justice.
Saw his two passes for Ollie last night.
Ball tingling doesn't do them justice.
Although I wonder if Ollie would have been onside if VAR was involved. Second one looked tight. Doesn't take away the perfect thought balls though.
Are there highlights anywhere?
Are there highlights anywhere?
Yes.
This is an Emi Buendia thread not really here to discuss Grealish.Any excuse to have another sly dig.
I thought the smily emoji might have helped but it wasn't a sly dig. Just mild disbelief at how excited Footy's getting about a player we haven't even seen in a Villa shirt yet, to the point where he's declaring him better than arguably the best player in our history!!
I meant Footy. He’s always popping at Grealish.
Are there highlights anywhere?
Yes.
Thanks
FourFourTwo magazine have publicly eaten humble pie and held their hands up for tipping us to be battling relegation last season. This season they are impressed with our signing of Buendia and say "It was exactly the type of transfer needed to execute the next phase of the masterplan". This season they have tipped us for tenth place and have us as an outside bet for Europe.
FourFourTwo magazine have publicly eaten humble pie and held their hands up for tipping us to be battling relegation last season. This season they are impressed with our signing of Buendia and say "It was exactly the type of transfer needed to execute the next phase of the masterplan". This season they have tipped us for tenth place and have us as an outside bet for Europe.
As has been said, two cracking passes to Watkins for the first two - first using his left foot, then his right.The Walsall CB were pretty inept; but - you're right - the passes were good.
I think he is going to be a big success for us and if I remember right, he can be a bit spiky - which I like.
My brother always mentions the 2010-11 Season Preview.
Blues had had their bestest ever season in 2010 (still finished below us) and Four Four Two predicted they would qualify for the Champions League.
They were relegated and haven't been back since.
I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I bloody loved Carbone’s brief time at the club.
I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I bloody loved Carbone’s brief time at the club.
He scored an absolute worldy from just inside the opposition's half against someone I can't for the life of me remember!
That's the sum total of my memory of Carbone!
Was that the cup run when we looked so exciting and then shut up shop in the final against Chelsea?
Leeds it was!
This is the goal - https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/879702059159424/
I thought it was from further out but still a worldy!!
Leeds it was!
This is the goal - https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/879702059159424/
I thought it was from further out but still a worldy!!
Wasn't that the same match where Merson got his face broke in the buildup to the 3rd goal?
This is Buendias big chance. He scored 1 goal last time out in the premier league and he knows he can do better.
In 2019/2020 Buendia was statistically the Premier League's second most creative player after
Kevin De Bruyne. And that was in a struggling Norwich side.
Buendia is a creative genius. Whatever the stats are saying clearly he's a very talented player and exciting to put him alongside Watkins and BaileyIn 2019/2020 Buendia was statistically the Premier League's second most creative player after
Kevin De Bruyne. And that was in a struggling Norwich side.
4th highest amount of chances created wasnt it? Jack was second that season.
He was £35m...not £3.5m. Let's see if he can do it on a wet Tuesday night in Moss Side etc.
For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
How disruptive that transfer of our now ex captain is all round.For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
Presumably we'll have a bit of a work-permit wait for Bailey as well, no?
For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
Presumably we'll have a bit of a work-permit wait for Bailey as well, no?
No idea but he's a regular for them, cloes to our transfer record and probabyl one of our top earners so it'll go through pretty easily.
Don't remember.... who was that?
He wasn't involved in training at all, he was interviewed pitch side which was shown on screens, no idea what he said due to accoustics and accent. Message from Bailey was also shown on big screen
He wasn't involved in training at all, he was interviewed pitch side which was shown on screens, no idea what he said due to accoustics and accent. Message from Bailey was also shown on big screen
Not in today’s squad at all. I have a feeling the starting XI may be the one that starts at Watford too.
this fella is the real deal.He definitely is; should have bought him 12 months' ago.
Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sureI didn't think so but his latest post suggest he's fit and I can't see us not playing him if he is. I think he's a great FFP choice and I'm now re-thinking my draft.
Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sure
Yeah but if he comes on and plays ten minutes, you're fucked.
Dean Smith:Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sureI didn't think so but his latest post suggest he's fit and I can't see us not playing him if he is. I think he's a great FFP choice and I'm now re-thinking my draft.
This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
One game in, with virtually no pre season. Jesus wept.
This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
One game in, with virtually no pre season. Jesus wept.
Was he good?
He cant be criticsed for that awful performance
"Jesus wept'
This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
Hardly any pre season and straight in today. Give him a chance
I'll reserve judgement obviously, but that wasn't a great start. Looked unfit, which he almost certainly is.
Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
Funny that what with him being a left winger. And yes, I'm aware he can also play in the middle and on the right.
Square pegs, round holes strikes again.
Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
Funny that what with him being a left winger. And yes, I'm aware he can also play in the middle and on the right.
Square pegs, round holes strikes again.
How is bailey a left winger? He even said in his interview right wing is his best position. He might be able to play left but rights where he plays
Bailey plays either with perfect comfort, and Buendìa is only ever nominally in any given position, very much a 'move across the lines' player.
Bailey plays either with perfect comfort, and Buendìa is only ever nominally in any given position, very much a 'move across the lines' player.
Should be starting him from the right for now though because he clearly wanted more time than he was given as a 10 today.
A winger who cuts in can be a winger. Buendia has shown plenty playing that role.
I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
I've just looked up the Norwich line-ups for their last 6 games last season and he is down as being on the right of a 4-2-3-1 for all of them. Whether right or wrong though I don't think he's been brought in to play there for us.
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I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
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I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
He shouldn't be criticised for playing as badly as he did yesterday? Good grief.
After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
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I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
Were most of his goals last season deflections? If so, maybe it's a unique talent - intentional deflections.
exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.who is his BFF?
exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.who is his BFF?
exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.who is his BFF?
Cantwell or Messi were my guesses.
Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?he is not lightening quick and tends to turn back when pressed to create space for himself. He was excellent today.
He definitely looks off the pace. Not fast enough, easily brushed off the ball, and not really finding space in dangerous areas.
It's early days but you can tell he's finding it tricky.
Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?he is not lightening quick and tends to turn back when pressed to create space for himself. He was excellent today.
FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
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I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
"What is it?"
- "I don't know but it looks like it's attacking the Enterprise."
Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?he is not lightening quick and tends to turn back when pressed to create space for himself. He was excellent today.
Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!
Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!Fuck no. Not sure what you are on about?
FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
I would say that he is best as a 10. Get Leon and Bert down the wings for a bit of pace an let EMI have a free role.
FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
FFS, you said that you hadn't even watched the game! As Paul said, I'm not writing him off, but the evidence on the first two games hasn't been very positive. I hope he'll come good.
FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
FFS, you said that you hadn't even watched the game! As Paul said, I'm not writing him off, but the evidence on the first two games hasn't been very positive. I hope he'll come good.
FFS 😉
I've seen enough of him at Norwich, and read enough about his stats to know he'll be good. Having now watched the match, I thought he looked tidy if nothing particularly of note was on show.
We've been somewhat blessed over the last few seasons to see one of the best around plying his trade. Pretty much anyone else wouldn't look amazing in his stead.
Buendia will be great for us once we've settled in a bit.
FFS
Just wanted to join in
Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!Fuck no. Not sure what you are on about?
Thought he started really well and always looked to be involved. 2nd half, less so, but He will be great for us I’m sure.
I thought he showed some very neat touches, he's clearly very comfortable on the ball. Agree that he looked tired quite early in the second half. We will need to find a way for him to have more of an impact on matches. Do we think the plan is to play him as a 10 when Bailey and Bert are fit?I hope it is.
He certainly wasn't anonymous yesterday: his pressing in the first half and support of Cash in the second were very obvious and noteworthy. I liked the way he went looking for the ball instead of just waiting out on the right.I thought I had made it perfectly clear (perhaps Specsavers might help you) and that is why he got subbed!Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!Fuck no. Not sure what you are on about?
Saw glimpses of what he can offer, but wasn't great for me. Not sure where he had been asked to play, or if he'd been license to roam wherever he wanted, but a few times Ramsey and Cash seemed to be looking for the option down the line but he was nowhere to be seen.
It is clear he was bought for his creativity as evidenced with his superb through balls for Watkins at Walsall. His graft and ability to win turnovers is an added bonus.
Once up to speed he will be equally important to the team as rat boy was and hopefully as effective
I'm also not writing him off but based on what I've seen in two games so far there's more than a hint of Jota and Carles Gil about him.
He had a 20-25 minute period towards the end of the first half on Saturday where he was dominating the ball and popping up in space all over the pitch, creating a number of openings with really clever passing - it was this that created a lot of the pressure we put on Newcastle towards half time which eventually resulted in the goal.
Doesn't yet look up to speed to produce that 20 minute burst for longer periods - although to be fair, any creative player would only have looked fleetingly good against a Bruce side who were really looking to shut the game down. However I saw enough during that time to see what he'll bring to the side when he's fully integrated.
He's very different to previous occupiers of the #10 in that he's more of a passer, not a dribbler. This will undoubtedly suit Watkins (and hopefully Bailey) who will like to stretch teams from wide areas and create space for him to operate. I do think we're 3-4 weeks away from looking a really well-balanced attacking unit, which we could not say we were last season. If we can continue to pick up results like Sat while we gel this front 6, once we hit our stride Emi will be running the show.
Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
I can't imagine quarantine will be an issue. Either they'll grant the same exemption they did last year or the European Club Association en masse will refuse to let their players travel. I expect it'll be the former and we will be missing Buendia, Martinez and Bailey (not on red list so almost certainly playing) for one game in September and one in October. Not great but not the end of the world. If WM Police would get their fingers out and move Villa v Wolves to the Sunday, that might help.
Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
Good plan. Stopping them representing their country is certain to prove motivational and increase their bond with the club.
Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
Good plan. Stopping them representing their country is certain to prove motivational and increase their bond with the club.
It must be shit being an Argentinian football fan - a grand total of two of the national squad play in Argentina. Everyone else plays in Europe!
I imagine that if a few European clubs withhold their players, every club will do it.
I can't imagine quarantine will be an issue. Either they'll grant the same exemption they did last year or the European Club Association en masse will refuse to let their players travel. I expect it'll be the former and we will be missing Buendia, Martinez and Bailey (not on red list so almost certainly playing) for one game in September and one in October. Not great but not the end of the world. If WM Police would get their fingers out and move Villa v Wolves to the Sunday, that might help.
Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
My take aswell on him.
It was a lovely finish and he hit a lovely pass out wide to Cash at some point in second half but he dosen't half lose the ball frequently when in decent positions. Odd given he's played in this country for last 4 years especially in championship where it's far more frenetic.
Perhaps we were just spoilt by who he's effectively replaced but get the feeling we've overhyped him a little too much as there were chances to play Ings through today and he overhit the pass on 2-3 occasions.
Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
My take aswell on him.
It was a lovely finish and he hit a lovely pass out wide to Cash at some point in second half but he dosen't half lose the ball frequently when in decent positions. Odd given he's played in this country for last 4 years especially in championship where it's far more frenetic.
Perhaps we were just spoilt by who he's effectively replaced but get the feeling we've overhyped him a little too much as there were chances to play Ings through today and he overhit the pass on 2-3 occasions.
Or you can give a bit of time to a player to settle in to a new team with a very fragmented start to the season due to selection issues.
One goal in three from out wide ain’t a bad start? Just one behind Ings.
Me too, I just know once we have a settled side and he finds his feet, a little more flair elsewhere on the park it will come. There was a couple passes today which nearly made it, but not quite. We saw a glimpse in pre-season for Ollie, the ability to do that is there.One goal in three from out wide ain’t a bad start? Just one behind Ings.
I want to see him hitting excellent throughballs for Ings, wasted one presentable chance in first half when he massively overhit it.
Was doing it no problem for Teemu Pukki so shouldn't be an issue I hope.
I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
Yeah can’t wait for them two to get up-to speed, exciting times ahead
Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
Exactly, but why bother with the positive side of things when people can look at the negatives 😉
Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
Exactly, but why bother with the positive side of things when people can look at the negatives 😉
Yeah he's shit, let's just get rid of him .
FFS give the guy a chance, why are so many posters so down on our players?
Yeah he's shit, let's just get rid of him .
FFS give the guy a chance, why are so many posters so down on our players?
I don't think anybody has suggested getting rid of him.
FFS, why are some posters so hysterical at the slightest bit of any criticism of a player? :)
My opinion on him is pretty clear.
He obviously showed at Norwich he was a good player and will in time show that for us.
Way some were going on when we signed him it was like we'd signed prime Messi.
Leon Bailey has the quality to push us into the top 6 and get us beating some of the better teams, don't quite get the same feeling from Buendia but could be wrong of course e.g. with Bailey in starting 11 he could really hurt Man. United on the break, don't get the same feeling from Buendia.
I thought he was ok the other night and was better at winning the ball back. Still needs to
be stronger under challenge.
It looks like he was signed to (Lord forgive me for mentioning formations, and Lord spare me from reading about formations) play in a 4-3-3. He's a bit of a fifth wheel in three-at-the-back.
Edit: I know he doesn't play at the back!
He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
Correct
It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starterReally isn't. It shows how strong the rest of the squad is. In any case though, despite Emi B costing £40m-ish ... how many of our players would you turn down that money for? I'd argue we've for a number of players above that price bracket:
It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starterReally isn't. It shows how strong the rest of the squad is. In any case though, despite Emi B costing £40m-ish ... how many of our players would you turn down that money for? I'd argue we've for a number of players above that price bracket:
- Martinez
- Mings
- McGinn
- Watkins
- Konsa
All of those, I'd be particularly unhappy if we accepted a £40m bid for. We've also got a second batch of players who are approaching that level:
- Emi B (obvs)
- Ings is about £30m
- Dougie Luiz must be over £30m now surely?
- Bailey is around that figure too
- Sanson would've been £35m ish until the French League had a car crash
- Traore is in a similar boat, would've been £25m+
- Cash & Targett must be approaching that £30m-£40m bracket, if they're not already in it
- Jacob Ramsey isn't there yet, but could realistically be approaching that bracket come the end of the season if he maintains his form
We're in a weird place, for ourselves anyway, that we've got a number of players in the squad who we couldn't afford if they were playing for another Premier League club. Credit to the coaching & scouting staff for putting us there.
A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
We want top 4 players? We want players who can win us FA cup or europa league in future?
He signalled to the bench to come off…I thought he played well but if he felt he needed to come off it’s hardly an error by Dean is it?!
He should be playing on the right, not centrally.
He signalled to the bench to come off…I thought he played well but if he felt he needed to come off it’s hardly an error by Dean is it?!
Why on earth was he asking to come off? He wasn't injured, and he hasn't been away on international duty.
Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Buendia was excellent in the first half - his movement and eye for a pass were sublime.
Second half, he spent more time chasing the ball and we saw less of what he's really good at. When Bailey is playing Buendia will have a field day.
Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
Yep. We don't have to start every player every game and we need to get out the mindset that Watkins and Ings are undroppable.Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
Yep. We don't have to start every player every game and we need to get out the mindset that Watkins and Ings are undroppable.Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.With the way Watkins is playing - his speed of thought and action seem way off last season - would it not be Ings in the starting berth?
yep.Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.With the way Watkins is playing - his speed of thought and action seem way off last season - would it not be Ings in the starting berth?
Yep. We don't have to start every player every game and we need to get out the mindset that Watkins and Ings are undroppable.Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
Agreed. I wonder if Dean is still haunted by Joe and Barkley's sulking antics at being subbed last season?
Watkins strikes me as a top pro anyway and likely would react in the right way.
Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Thought he was a bit of a mixed bag on Saturday to be totally honest Ads. I was in the top of the North Stand, so could see that his movement was good in the first half and he found some pockets of space in between their midfield and defence. Thought he also played some nice balls that led to us getting chances, particularly the one for Ings towards the end of the half.
I did think, however, that he was in traffic in central areas he looked a little slow and lightweight at times. He was eased off the ball a few times and gave the ball away a few too many times. That said, he is still finding his feet and getting up to speed at the moment, so those areas may improve over the coming weeks.
I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
Someone mentioned he'd asked to come off, but I've no idea whether that's right or not. I hope he's not injured.
I like him and can only see him getting better. He's a very clever player and fights hard too.
I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
Someone mentioned he'd asked to come off, but I've no idea whether that's right or not. I hope he's not injured.
I like him and can only see him getting better. He's a very clever player and fights hard too.
Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Thought he was a bit of a mixed bag on Saturday to be totally honest Ads. I was in the top of the North Stand, so could see that his movement was good in the first half and he found some pockets of space in between their midfield and defence. Thought he also played some nice balls that led to us getting chances, particularly the one for Ings towards the end of the half.
I did think, however, that he was in traffic in central areas he looked a little slow and lightweight at times. He was eased off the ball a few times and gave the ball away a few too many times. That said, he is still finding his feet and getting up to speed at the moment, so those areas may improve over the coming weeks.
He is not the quickest , but neither was David Silva , he has quick feet and works hard , i thought it was promising
Said it on match thread but he reminds me of N'zogbia a bit.
Worth noting with the penalty we had Free kick on edge of box and he just floats it into Ramsdale's arms.
Said it on match thread but he reminds me of N'zogbia a bit.
Worth noting with the penalty we had Free kick on edge of box and he just floats it into Ramsdale's arms.
More like a Gil for me. Clearly talented, but just far too lightweight.
He'll be fine when we play him in position.
He'll be fine when we play him in position.
He is a good player. You can also see he really gives a shit too.
He will be great when he is played in his natural position in a balanced team - not the present car crash.
He'll be fine when we play him in position.
Let’s hope they put us in charge instead of Smith then!
The main problem is that he’s not very good - certainly not a 1/3rd of JoeNonsense
I assumed that Buendia was going to play on the right of Watkins, with Bailey on the left. I suppose I reckoned without Smith feeling that he's got to play both Ings and Watkins though.
Maybe just maybe play him in his best role of wide right 🤷🏻♂️
It’s way too early to right him off.
Comparisons to Gil are laughable
It’s way too early to right him off.
Comparisons to Gil are laughable
Not at the moment they're not. We can't go off anything else until Smith plays him in his correct position, and so far playing centrally, he looks weak and gets bullied off the ball constantly.
Not his fault but at 40 million notes you would expect better.
Would rather just play Bailey wide right tbh.
Not sure what we do on the left, suspect we'll just put Ollie there but he's not really playing well enough to justify a starting place.
Near the start of this thread I said I was worried about him handling the physical side of the league and that was as a winger, in central midfield he is totally lost. The worst thing is that this could easily turn the fans against him and it's not his fault, his choices, right now, are to sit in the pocket of a big bastard like Partey or sit on the bench because we've spent something like £80m on wingers over the last 2 summers and then decided to play without them.
He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
Martin O'Neill would.He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
Yep it’s baffling. You wouldn’t sign Kante and play him centre half would you?
Would rather just play Bailey wide right tbh.
Not sure what we do on the left, suspect we'll just put Ollie there but he's not really playing well enough to justify a starting place.
This is why we needed to buy an actual left winger in the summer. For all the money we got for Jack, signing a genuine replacement that could hold the ball and play a pass was something we should have been shooting and trying to find for the last year knowing he would likely go. Poor from the the club to not buy one. Even worse was not pushing harder for Benrahma last summer because he could have stepped in there nicely.
Anyhow, play Bailey left and Buendia right for a few games, get Ramsey in the midfield 3 and drop Ings. Watkins moves more. See how it goes.
Martin O'Neill would.He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
Yep it’s baffling. You wouldn’t sign Kante and play him centre half would you?
If it's a straight choice between Buendia and Ramsey, it has to be Ramsey right now. Not writing Buendia off but tell him to fight for his place and justify it when he gets a chance. Sanson is another option too.
Good championship player struggling to see what he is bringing to our team
Needs to work on his fitness, could be another player who is just at the club for the money
I bet Norwich can’t believe that they duped us for £38 million
We buy Traore, EL Ghazi, Trezeguet, Bailey and Buendia. All wide players, for the best part of £100m. Then pick a formation where we play with no wingers and use full backs pushed forward, neither of who can beat a man or cross the fucking road.
It's brain dead stuff from Smith at the moment.
The main problem is that he’s not very good - certainly not a 1/3rd of JoeNonsense
Good championship player struggling to see what he is bringing to our team
Needs to work on his fitness, could be another player who is just at the club for the money
I bet Norwich can’t believe that they duped us for £38 million
For £40 odd million, he should be playing better irrespective of position. End of .
Do you honestly believe certain sections of our support are desperate for our record signing to fail??
His stats for assists and for tackling and tracking back were great before he joined us. I think playing on the right that is good but playing in a midfield 3 isn't his strength at all. Ratboy was the same.
His stats for assists and for tackling and tracking back were great before he joined us. I think playing on the right that is good but playing in a midfield 3 isn't his strength at all. Ratboy was the same.
It just seems remarkably obvious. Out wide, you just need your winger/wide forward to assist with giving the full back a bit of support. In the middle, you’re dealing with brick shithouse defensive midfielders. I can’t imagine that he’d be any less supportive on the wing than Traore, so why not play him in the position he excelled in for the club you bought him from?
I think Sanson will be on the naughty step with Engels and Guilbert from now on, before a loan move away in January "to work on his fitness". The footballer's equivalent of an unwanted dog for Christmas "going to live on a farm."it will be like he never existed.
Who?Can’t remember
He made a good contribution for the goal today, but unfortunately there was not much else.
His hasty exit and the look of thunder on his face as he left the pitch after being subbed also suggested all was not well.
There are glimpses of a player in him. In the right system and shape I think he will come good for us.
At least he did not look a twat taking throw in's . He was not the worse player but at the moment the whole team is shite , thou I though Cash put a shift in . We need to sort that midfield out , that's not helping him at all , SJM looked hopeless too and don't mention Young
Too early to write off .
Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
We were completely dominated in central midfield, hard for the wide players to get into the game under those circumstances.
Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
I guess we were looking at his stats, including goals and assists over the past seasons.
Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
I guess we were looking at his stats, including goals and assists over the past seasons.
Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
We were completely dominated in central midfield, hard for the wide players to get into the game under those circumstances.
Seems like he just went for a shit, as he came back to sit on the bench.
At least he did not look a twat taking throw in's . He was not the worse player but at the moment the whole team is shite , thou I though Cash put a shift in . We need to sort that midfield out , that's not helping him at all , SJM looked hopeless too and don't mention Young
Too early to write off .
The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
It could well be that he can't Jack it at this level. I just think it's unfair to judge him in a team so obviously lacking an atyacking plan or midfield in general.
And looked like in a few games could forge an understanding with Cash, and grow in confidence. He's a very talented footballer, just needs a run in the right position.
That's a shrewd point about Jack's ball-carrying Drummond. The idea that we replace him with three attackers missed the mark a bit, as he was also our most important defensive player for his ability to hold onto the thing, drag it upfield with him or get kicked in the attempt. All of which suggests that perhaps Dean and Johan didn't quite understand him as a player even while in the team, let alone how to compensate for his departure.
The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
Sure, but my point is that thinking of replacing him just in the final third was a mistake. We're so clearly lacking stickability in midfield, especially without Doug.
Yes: I was singularly unimpressed with Bailey, until I reflected that he had received no decent ball, seemed to have been told to stay out wide (where it was very easy to be marked) and nothing for him to show his pace and close control on the move.
Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
Sure, but my point is that thinking of replacing him just in the final third was a mistake. We're so clearly lacking stickability in midfield, especially without Doug.
The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.
That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.
And his record with Norwich was what prompted us to sign him which suggests that if he can get the right relationship with his teammates he could prosper.
There was also a period in the first half vs Wolves where he was threading some great passes between the lines.Absolutely. I think we've seen glimpses of it, I just hope we click as a unit (i.e. midfield) and he can prosper. That assist on Sunday was great, his turn and finish v Brentford was clever, it's not often you see a player turn away from goal rather than to it to take a shot. I'm convinced he'll do well.That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.And his record with Norwich was what prompted us to sign him which suggests that if he can get the right relationship with his teammates he could prosper.
Can we all agree, once and for all, he's not a 10?
Very good in second half but our record signing shouldnt be going off with cramp after 70 mins. Our pre season was obviously a shambles.I'd be interested to see any stats on our players if anyone can get them, but I reckon he spent most of the game, particularly first half, chasing and harrying their defenders like a banshee...second half we were on the front foot more and he created umpteen openings, which I think is the reason we brought him to the club! It's the hardest I've seen him work and I think he did a fair bit more than most today!
He showed 2 things in that game - 1 he can see and weight a forward pass better than anyone at the club, even in a crap first half he was the one that created 2-3 half chances and 2. that when he battles he is a very, very useful player. For 15 minutes second half he was the best player out there for us, and stepped up. See that more often much of the worry about him will go away.agreed.
Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
Think a lot of people are thinking that. If you look at the difference from last season then the two big differences are ratboy leaving and the changeover in staff. We had a core of players who came up with the original coaches and prospered under them. Now we have the new guys, with new ideas, and maybe the players don't trust their methods or don't like their methods. The amount of times a change in coaches has caused a team to go backwards is well documented.
What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
I think its because our pressing is all over the place. I noticed yesterday that, especially in the first half, our lads were running around like dogs chasing a ball. When we then get some possession of the ball we are mentally and physically fucked from running around with no discipline.
What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
I think its because our pressing is all over the place. I noticed yesterday that, especially in the first half, our lads were running around like dogs chasing a ball. When we then get some possession of the ball we are mentally and physically fucked from running around with no discipline.
Buendia is a case in point. He spent most of last night chasing down backpasses to their goalie in the vain hope of a 1 in a 1,000 goalkeeping error.
He must've been knackered just from doing that and it had zero point.
Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Jesus, my 6 year old daughter could manage a more coherent argument than that. Ed Sheeran can sing and play guitar better than me, I still think he's shit.
If it's a straight choice between Buendia and Ramsey, it has to be Ramsey right now. Not writing Buendia off but tell him to fight for his place and justify it when he gets a chance. Sanson is another option too.
Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Jesus, my 6 year old daughter could manage a more coherent argument than that. Ed Sheeran can sing and play guitar better than me, I still think he's shit.
Who pissed on your chips.
Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
It's a Catch 22
He won't be good enough for the 1st team with his fitness/ confidence level
The best way to get confidence at least is to play in the 1st team
He also needs how to foul and get away with it. Start by heading his markers in the nuts.
Thanks for that Rudy. You know my eyesight does not function beyond the Holte End penalty area. Mind you I was able to make out a number of blue and white striped shirts rolling about at regular intervals.
Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Looking increasingly like trying to play these two cost Smith his job.
Both have been useless so far, so bench at best from now on for me.
Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Looking increasingly like trying to play these two cost Smith his job.
Both have been useless so far, so bench at best from now on for me.
And yet we have a completely new management team and they were both picked to start so they must be doing something right in training. It's just not translating to match day for some reason.
He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
Id have snapped their hands off at 60m
I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
Id have snapped their hands off at 60m
I suspect they would've too John.
He's had issues with fitness, he went to Argentina and had to quarantine, he's joined us to play for a manager who has since had the boot. He's been played as a 10 and right wing, and now he's got a new manager to start again with.I def think there is a player in there - and it could be a special one. We know he can do it, and he just needs a bit of luck and a few good performances.
Hardly a settled start - let's not write him off yet.
He's had issues with fitness, he went to Argentina and had to quarantine, he's joined us to play for a manager who has since had the boot. He's been played as a 10 and right wing, and now he's got a new manager to start again with.
Hardly a settled start - let's not write him off yet.
I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
How many games do we give a player to see if he's up to our standard?
Is this the same Ashley Young that was too old a few weeks ago and shouldn't be playing
It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
Surely this is where Gerrard and his coaching team earn their money. He’s clearly a good footballer, they just need to find a way to get the best from him.
It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
Grealish had unbelievable control though, and was no slouch when he got going. He was entirely impossible to dispossess fairly as well, meaning he never lost possession by being tackled or knocked off the ball. The absolute polar opposite of Buendia in that regard.
I really hope Buendia makes it, I just don't think he will.
It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.Yeah, I think I'd agree with this. Some players, I think it's fair enough to say based on early impressions they're not going to make it. With Buendía, I'd be inclined to judge him based on where he's at come the end of the season, not a couple of months in. I'm fairly confident that he'll come good, and when he does he'll come really good.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.You mention his perceived lack of 'quickness of thought': so, I don't see that at all - I see someone who sees the passes and moves into spaces in anticipation of the ball being shifted there; both of which require vision and speed of thought. He is also almost too enthusiastic, burning out after 70 minutes of closing-down and chasing-back.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
How is he stronger than he looks? Is he just getting knocked off the ball constantly as a bet then?! 🤷I know what you mean, it's not working for him at the moment. But the point remains, he's stocky and tenacious. I don't think he'll be getting knocked of as easily once he gets into his stride.
I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
The year they came up only De Bruyne and Grealish made more chances than him.
I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
The year they came up only De Bruyne and Grealish made more chances than him.
Grealish had unbelievable control though, and was no slouch when he got going. He was entirely impossible to dispossess fairly as well, meaning he never lost possession by being tackled or knocked off the ball. The absolute polar opposite of Buendia in that regard.
I really hope Buendia makes it, I just don't think he will.
Brilliant to create that chance for Chuk.
He creates chances and takes risks which sometimes don’t pay off. I think he’ll be just fine
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Everyone was dreadful in the first half. Like the others he improved a lot in the second, the quality for the Chuk pass was sublime.
Him and Sanson will be a great duo
Him and Sanson will be a great duo
Sanson looked very good when he came on.
Him and Sanson will be a great duo
Sanson looked very good when he came on.
Agreed, I thought Sanson and Chuk really added something for us.
He's got superbly quick feet, and a great touch. He's slower when running with the ball than glacial drift though, and his passing is shocking.
I still like him but he needs to bulk up a bit as he's a bit too easy to brush off the ball.
The pass aside i'm not convinced. Whether he's just struggling to adapt or he's just a bit shit you can't carry a 30m passenger every game at this level. I suppose he's at least fit to play occasionally which is more than you can say for our other big summer buys.
Very harsh that his goal was taken off him when deflected shots which totally make a goal happen from a shit shot are never taken away from the shooter.
Maybe Konsa can appeal on his behalf, he should be happy with the second goal.
Very harsh that his goal was taken off him when deflected shots which totally make a goal happen from a shit shot are never taken away from the shooter.
Maybe Konsa can appeal on his behalf, he should be happy with the second goal.
It would have hit the post without the touch from Konsa.
Has he calmed down on the eye-rolling and gesturing to the bench about how hard life is for him on the pitch cos teammates aren't doing what he wants?
Hate seeing that shit.
Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.It seems to be his modus operandi due to his lack of pace. He deliberately draws contact, but then can’t withstand the pressure and gets dispossessed.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
I thought he was pretty good in the second half of both Man City & Leicester. He work rate is exceptional, he's looking better on the ball, essentially scored a goal and had created some great chances. I think people calling him shit are more influenced by preconceptions than what is happening on the pitch. He's coming good now that he's getting more game time and I'm confident there's more to come.
Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
The guy who's a complete outcast in the worst Barcelona team in a generation?
When it comes to diminutive offensive midfielders, Robert Hopkins is still the benchmark.
More about his football ability rather than his attitude or mental state, I believe he was a bit difficult at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' aswell.Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
The guy who's a complete outcast in the worst Barcelona team in a generation?
Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.It seems to be his modus operandi due to his lack of pace. He deliberately draws contact, but then can’t withstand the pressure and gets dispossessed.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
This approach should be easy enough to fix through some good coaching.
When it comes to diminutive offensive midfielders, Robert Hopkins is still the benchmark.Ha ha.
Has he calmed down on the eye-rolling and gesturing to the bench about how hard life is for him on the pitch cos teammates aren't doing what he wants?
Hate seeing that shit.
Should be sacked immediately.
Should be sacked immediately.
And he should pay us up for the remainder of his contract.
There's no place for it in decent society, may I add.
There's no place for it in decent society, may I add.
Certainly no place for the thoughts on what I'd like to do with Mrs Buendia.
There's no place for it in decent society, may I add.
Certainly no place for the thoughts on what I'd like to do with Mrs Buendia.
Is there a place on earth where there's a woman whose appearance you won't comment upon, BV?
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They really ought to bring back the birch for stuff like this. Our standards as a society are through the floor. I'm well out of it.That radish festival sounds like something I'd need to see with my own eyes.
At least here, they have dignified celebrations, such as this evening's radish festival, where holy icons are carved from giant radishes.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Amen. They always seem to be in the houses of people with some bollocks statement like 'Live, Laugh, Love' stencilled on the wall together with a clock the size of a centre circle. The massive Twats.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
We've never had any professional photos done of our lot. We've got hundreds of normal photos (camera phone etc) of our eldest daughter, slightly fewer of our son who's two years younger, and then hardly any at all of the rest of them. Once one of them has learned to walk, you've seen it all before and the attraction wears off!
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
We've never had any professional photos done of our lot. We've got hundreds of normal photos (camera phone etc) of our eldest daughter, slightly fewer of our son who's two years younger, and then hardly any at all of the rest of them. Once one of them has learned to walk, you've seen it all before and the attraction wears off!
Same here mate, my youngest is quite miffed by the comparative lack of content.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Amen. They always seem to be in the houses of people with some bollocks statement like 'Live, Laugh, Love' stencilled on the wall together with a clock the size of a centre circle. The massive Twats.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Amen. They always seem to be in the houses of people with some bollocks statement like 'Live, Laugh, Love' stencilled on the wall together with a clock the size of a centre circle. The massive Twats.
Ha Ha dont forget living my best life and all that
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Amen. They always seem to be in the houses of people with some bollocks statement like 'Live, Laugh, Love' stencilled on the wall together with a clock the size of a centre circle. The massive Twats.
Ha Ha dont forget living my best life and all that
And the "It's Gin o'clock" coasters.
Amen. They always seem to be in the houses of people with some bollocks statement like 'Live, Laugh, Love' stencilled on the wall together with a clock the size of a centre circle. The massive Twats.
Ha Ha dont forget living my best life and all that
And the "It's Gin o'clock" coasters.
Maybe it might not be season for this sort of thing, but you know those 'wholesome family photos', the black and white, informal and playful but professionally made ones of the family, kind of lolling around on the floor together.
I fucking hate them with an admittedly unjustified passion, although thankfully so does my wife.
Amen. They always seem to be in the houses of people with some bollocks statement like 'Live, Laugh, Love' stencilled on the wall together with a clock the size of a centre circle. The massive Twats.
He’s good at showing glimpses of promise every game. Alas, glimpses only.This is it, but that inability to get away from defenders reduces his potential impact on any game.
He’s good at showing glimpses of promise every game. Alas, glimpses only.This is it, but that inability to get away from defenders reduces his potential impact on any game.
Some cod psychology, but he just needs to accept that falling over and buying a free kick doesn't make him less of a bloke. Feel him being a firey Argentine, but the size of Scrappy Doo, he has some short man machismo going on where he refuses to be cowed.
Just fall over and buy free kick after free kick.
His plus points are his skill, quick feet and eye for a pass. The negatives are that he’s slow and easily knocked about. Whether his plus points can overcome the negatives remains to be seen. Overall the use of the £100m for Grealish has been disappointing though.
His plus points are his skill, quick feet and eye for a pass. The negatives are that he’s slow and easily knocked about. Whether his plus points can overcome the negatives remains to be seen. Overall the use of the £100m for Grealish has been disappointing though.
Not often I say this about a villa player but Steve Gerrard please sell him whilst he has some valueVery harsh indeed. He will one of the best players in the League next season.
Not often I say this about a villa player but Steve Gerrard please sell him whilst he has some valueVery harsh indeed. He will one of the best players in the League next season.
His plus points are his skill, quick feet and eye for a pass. The negatives are that he’s slow and easily knocked about. Whether his plus points can overcome the negatives remains to be seen. Overall the use of the £100m for Grealish has been disappointing though.
If we run with the £100 million not being spent correctly theory, given that we've just sacked the last guy who oversaw transfers to the manager, would this indicate the business model is wrong? I've never been a fan of it anyway as you can't really hold the manager accountable if it doesn't work. Norwich have a similar model, not sure of other clubs or if it's even the norm now.
I said exactly this during the game.He’s good at showing glimpses of promise every game. Alas, glimpses only.This is it, but that inability to get away from defenders reduces his potential impact on any game.
Too often tonight, he tried to thread the ball through their defence only for the pass to be picked off as to easy to read. He's too slow to be a top player and I think we have massively overpaid for him on the evidence so far. Some nice touches at times but can be a bit tippy tappy, nowhere near fit enough and I am still not sure what his best position is.
The only thing that’s disappointed so far is the pace element, I was expecting that explosive pace from a standing start but he just doesn’t have that. I think he’s frustrated himself and just needs to chill a bit, it’s quite clear he has the ability.
He ought to be offering a lot more than he has so far.But I agree with this post.
I think there is a very decent player in there. He's shown patches of it here and there but obviously not enough so far. I think 'biggest flop in the clubs history so far' and 'complete waste of money' are a tad over the top seeing as he's only been here a few months but then again, a lot of our fans are not known for their patience.
The modern day Tommy Craig.
Beundia has something in terms of skill and vision, but he is very lightweight. Also the moaning and body language are all wrong sometimes. Ive just watched the highlights back on MOTD, there is no doubt the first pen is a mistake by Cash, but in the build up, a not great ball is played to Beundia in the middle, he cant reach it, but instead of chasing back he stands still in the middle of the field flapping his arms around and looking at the sky.
It may not have made any difference to the outcome, and it may have played out the same way, but if i was Gerard i would be fuming at him for what that symbolises.
People lack patience.Amen.
Drummond,would you like to post these comments directly to the Jack Grealish thread as well?
People lack patience.Amen.
Each to their own but I think he’s terrible and we need to get rid ASAP.People lack patience.Amen.
Absolutely. I think he will be very good for us and I like watching him play.
I think he'll turn it around, and hopefully in the run in like Doug in his first season. That said, as hopeful as I am, there's no way he looks like a 30 million quid player. Still, Grealish is coming back in the summer, tail between his legs, half the price we paid, and on a pay cut. Mark my words...
Right...more Prosecco for me.
got anything positive to say ever, Colin?Each to their own but I think he’s terrible and we need to get rid ASAP.People lack patience.Amen.
Absolutely. I think he will be very good for us and I like watching him play.
Lightweight, no pace and cannot pass a ball…utter shite!!
Yes..take a look at my posts.got anything positive to say ever, Colin?Each to their own but I think he’s terrible and we need to get rid ASAP.People lack patience.Amen.
Absolutely. I think he will be very good for us and I like watching him play.
Lightweight, no pace and cannot pass a ball…utter shite!!
Each to their own but I think he’s terrible and we need to get rid ASAP.People lack patience.Amen.
Absolutely. I think he will be very good for us and I like watching him play.
Lightweight, no pace and cannot pass a ball…utter shite!!
He’s had glimmers of fantastic moments in our better games and shown some really clever traits. He’s quite tenacious which I like too.
Back to what Ads said though, we really should show more patience. He’s come into a side which had a massive hangover after Grealish, a really shit pre-season and then our manager being sacked. I reckon a decent pre-season this summer and next year he will superb.
Our form has had a massive up turn lately and he’s helped with that.
I know it's become a bit of a cliché, but I do think some are still expecting Emi to be Grealish, and I don't think that's fair or accurate. Grealish is basically a unique player, an attacking winger with the ball-retention stats of Sergio Busquets. Emi isn't that - he's a classic no. 10, albeit one who harries and harrasses off the ball.
In other words, he's as Argentinian as Jorge Luis Borges riding a horse through the pampas eating a steak with a glass of malbec. It comes with the style that he's going to lose the ball a bit, trying things that don't come off. He's also going to get goals and assists (that bit of play yesterday to set up Ings was fucking gorgeous). He's getting better every week with the new structure around him and I'm hopeful about his chances of succeeding again.
I know it's become a bit of a cliché, but I do think some are still expecting Emi to be Grealish, and I don't think that's fair or accurate. Grealish is basically a unique player, an attacking winger with the ball-retention stats of Sergio Busquets. Emi isn't that - he's a classic no. 10, albeit one who harries and harrasses off the ball.
In other words, he's as Argentinian as Jorge Luis Borges riding a horse through the pampas eating a steak with a glass of malbec. It comes with the style that he's going to lose the ball a bit, trying things that don't come off. He's also going to get goals and assists (that bit of play yesterday to set up Ings was fucking gorgeous). He's getting better every week with the new structure around him and I'm hopeful about his chances of succeeding again.
He was our best player yesterday. His best game so far.
Think it was his best game to date yesterday. He was thrown under the bus a couple of times with high balls up to him. I'm still not convinced though
I know it's become a bit of a cliché, but I do think some are still expecting Emi to be Grealish, and I don't think that's fair or accurate. Grealish is basically a unique player, an attacking winger with the ball-retention stats of Sergio Busquets. Emi isn't that - he's a classic no. 10, albeit one who harries and harrasses off the ball.
In other words, he's as Argentinian as Jorge Luis Borges riding a horse through the pampas eating a steak with a glass of malbec. It comes with the style that he's going to lose the ball a bit, trying things that don't come off. He's also going to get goals and assists (that bit of play yesterday to set up Ings was fucking gorgeous). He's getting better every week with the new structure around him and I'm hopeful about his chances of succeeding again.
It was Buendia in a nutshell yesterday. Just before his outrageous bit of skill for the assist, he'd passed it straight out of play twice. Not through trying something outrageous, just from playing really duff balls. And we really could do with some goals from him.
Think it was his best game to date yesterday. He was thrown under the bus a couple of times with high balls up to him. I'm still not convinced though
To be fair, he nearly scored with a header in a crowded box yesterday so maybe we're underestimating his ability to deal with the long-ball hoof!!!
I hope people are starting to see it now.
That he is a very good player.I hope people are starting to see it now.
What?
That he is a very good player.I hope people are starting to see it now.
What?
That he is a very good player.I hope people are starting to see it now.
What?
OK, it wasn't clear which way you wanted to go with that. I agree, but fucking hell he wastes possession sometimes.
I think the art to becoming great in his position is knowing when to use your tools. You have to make every pass a killer through ball, a bit of subterfuge can keep the opponent guessing and make it more effective when you do use it.
I know it doesn't need saying, but a proper defensive midfielder is an absolute must. A Bissouma type in the middle, with two of Luiz, Ramsey, McGinn and Sanson either side, behind two 10s of Coutinho and Buendia feeding Watkins or Ings, and we'd be well set. I think we need a proper top notch striker in the summer though. That Haaland fella would do. At the moment our midfield three are all a bit samey, and Buendia often drops too deep doing a sort of Luiz job, when he should be spending his time trying to hurt the opposing team as he did a couple of times last night.I'm of the same mind. A defensive midfielder's needed for now, the rest of the midfield looks rather healthy (particularly when Marv returns). Also agree that a striker upgrade might be in order in the summer.
I hope people are starting to see it now.
I know it doesn't need saying, but a proper defensive midfielder is an absolute must. A Bissouma type in the middle, with two of Luiz, Ramsey, McGinn and Sanson either side, behind two 10s of Coutinho and Buendia feeding Watkins or Ings, and we'd be well set. I think we need a proper top notch striker in the summer though. That Haaland fella would do. At the moment our midfield three are all a bit samey, and Buendia often drops too deep doing a sort of Luiz job, when he should be spending his time trying to hurt the opposing team as he did a couple of times last night.
I felt the 20 mins before half time were him in a nutshell so far.Yes. I was close to apoplectic with some of the crappy passes that led to opponent attacks. However, he has some real magic and needs to know when to use it better.
He was magic, running the game for 10 mins, then he must have given possession up 3 or 4 times in a row, culminating in getting in Dougies way and then kicking the ball at him and send them on a counter.
Also agree that a striker upgrade might be in order in the summer.
I felt the 20 mins before half time were him in a nutshell so far.Yes. I was close to apoplectic with some of the crappy passes that led to opponent attacks. However, he has some real magic and needs to know when to use it better.
He was magic, running the game for 10 mins, then he must have given possession up 3 or 4 times in a row, culminating in getting in Dougies way and then kicking the ball at him and send them on a counter.
I've been a fan of his for a while (i wanted to get him into Villa when Naaarrrich got relegated) but it is currently very much a balance between the good he brings and the liability he sometimes offers.
Thought he was our best player last night. If only he was a bit more substantial. There was a moment last night when he bounced off a Man U player and he resembled one of those cartoon stick figures in a flip book.
We need to improve other areas of our team to get the best out of our current forwards.Also agree that a striker upgrade might be in order in the summer.
I don’t think we could afford a player that would be a guaranteed upgrade on Watkins/Ings.
Absolutely outstanding the last two games. He’s really looking some player.
Absolutely outstanding the last two games. He’s really looking some player.
I don't think he was too bad at Brentford either
Starting to look the part after a slow start to his Villa career. I wonder how much of it is down to some of the other players starting to get on his wavelength and read him a bit better than before.
His good is getting better by the game, but still gave the ball away too often today. If he can cut that out, then he could be quality.
Emi Buendia is further evidence that we shouldn’t jump all over a new player if they don’t perform to their full potential immediately. And I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet.
Trying too hard methinks.
Trying too hard methinks.He's been guilty of that for sure.
Trying too hard methinks.
Behave. He was the best player on the pitch by a mile yesterday. .
Trying too hard methinks.
Behave. He was the best player on the pitch by a mile yesterday. .
Agreed, was one of the better players in a poor first half and played well second half. JJ may have got MotM but it was Buendia for me.
Just a 5 minute patch in the 2nd half when he gave possession away about 3 or 4 times on the trot!Going right up through the gears now. The thing I like is he's only got one thought in his head and that's to get forward. Starting to look a genuine quality player - how do the Argentinians produce so many great players and they travel so well.
But, getting better every game and playing some beautiful stuff!
Both Buendia and Martinez are from the same village in Argentina!
They spend lots of time together off the pitch
Both Buendia and Martinez are from the same village in Argentina!
They spend lots of time together off the pitch
They're from Mar del Plata, the 5th biggest city in Argentina.
Wasn’t the type of game where he could be creative or have too much time on the ball. But his effort and attitude was spot on and a great header for the goal. Starting to get excited by Buendia
Jack who? Emi really looking the part now.
Wasn’t the type of game where he could be creative or have too much time on the ball. But his effort and attitude was spot on and a great header for the goal. Starting to get excited by Buendia
Yes, he's really found his mojo. It happens that players, regardless of their ability, can take time to settle in to a new club.
Jack who? Emi really looking the part now.
I've just had a look at the two together as interestingly they've had almost exactly the same amount of time on the pitch in the league so far this season:
Grealish
Minutes: 1,242
Goals: 2
Shots: 20
Big chances missed: 6
Assists: 2
Chances created: 36
Dribbles succeeded: 27
Emi
Minutes: 1,234
Goals: 2
Shots: 16
Big chances missed: 1
Assists: 3
Chances created: 30
Dribbles succeeded: 27
So Emi's scored just as many, assisted more, not fluffed as many big chances and has the same number of successful dribbles. All when he's only really been performing for half of that time on the pitch, cost about a third what we sold Grealish for and is a year younger.
Based on half a season's worth I know who I think got the better deal.
Jack who? Emi really looking the part now.
I've just had a look at the two together as interestingly they've had almost exactly the same amount of time on the pitch in the league so far this season:
Grealish
Minutes: 1,242
Goals: 2
Shots: 20
Big chances missed: 6
Assists: 2
Chances created: 36
Dribbles succeeded: 27
Emi
Minutes: 1,234
Goals: 2
Shots: 16
Big chances missed: 1
Assists: 3
Chances created: 30
Dribbles succeeded: 27
So Emi's scored just as many, assisted more, not fluffed as many big chances and has the same number of successful dribbles. All when he's only really been performing for half of that time on the pitch, cost about a third what we sold Grealish for and is a year younger.
Based on half a season's worth I know who I think got the better deal.
I’d be interested to see pass completion stats, I think that’s where Buendia needs to improve a lot but I wonder if that’s backed up with the stats.
He is not in the top 20 list of passes completed but that list is mostly full of central defenders. 520 for Emi whereas Ruben Dias at top with 1640.
Wasn’t the type of game where he could be creative or have too much time on the ball. But his effort and attitude was spot on and a great header for the goal. Starting to get excited by Buendia
Yes, he's really found his mojo. It happens that players, regardless of their ability, can take time to settle in to a new club.
Exactly this. Look back through this thread (one person accused him of pretending to be a professional footballer). You just have to be patient sometimes.
He is not in the top 20 list of passes completed but that list is mostly full of central defenders. 520 for Emi whereas Ruben Dias at top with 1640.
Is there a pass completion stat for passes in opposition half? It’s the only one that counts when measuring attacking players.
When he first arrived, I was concerned he was lightweight, a sort of Carles Gil for the 2020s.
When he first arrived, I was concerned he was lightweight, a sort of Carles Gil for the 2020s.
Not worried about that any more. The lad can more than hold his own in a physical battle.
Never stops running, either.
Jack who? Emi really looking the part now.
I've just had a look at the two together as interestingly they've had almost exactly the same amount of time on the pitch in the league so far this season:
Grealish
Minutes: 1,242
Goals: 2
Shots: 20
Big chances missed: 6
Assists: 2
Chances created: 36
Dribbles succeeded: 27
Emi
Minutes: 1,234
Goals: 2
Shots: 16
Big chances missed: 1
Assists: 3
Chances created: 30
Dribbles succeeded: 27
So Emi's scored just as many, assisted more, not fluffed as many big chances and has the same number of successful dribbles. All when he's only really been performing for half of that time on the pitch, cost about a third what we sold Grealish for and is a year younger.
Based on half a season's worth I know who I think got the better deal.
I’d be interested to see pass completion stats, I think that’s where Buendia needs to improve a lot but I wonder if that’s backed up with the stats.
Pass completion stats:
Grealish 88% / Emi 80%
You have to be careful though with stats in isolation. Man City have loads of possession with tons of easy sideways passes. I'd suggest Emi's generally under more pressure and trying to be more progressive so more passes are likely to go astray.
Early season he was getting knocked off the ball a lot - that seems to have changed in the last few games and I cant work out what he has done to change.
Early season he was getting knocked off the ball a lot - that seems to have changed in the last few games and I cant work out what he has done to change.
He's getting better, but he still loses possession a bit too easily. When you do that against the likes of Man City and Liverpool you often don't see the ball again for 5 minutes.I think the giving the ball away is too common with this Villa team, what separates the top 6 with the rest is the amount of times they give up possession through unforced errors.
The money we spent on Buendia is not the problem, its the other 60million of the Greasy money.
The money we spent on Buendia is not the problem, its the other 60million of the Greasy money.
Well as per Buendia I wouldn’t write Bailey off yet.
On Ings he’s fine as an addition to the squad. The problem is Watkins and him can’t play together - so you have to make a choice.
I haven't written him off but we will have got very little return on the investment so far and I am not convinced that Ings was an astute piece of business either.The money we spent on Buendia is not the problem, its the other 60million of the Greasy money.
Well as per Buendia I wouldn’t write Bailey off yet.
On Ings he’s fine as an addition to the squad. The problem is Watkins and him can’t play together - so you have to make a choice.
The money we spent on Buendia is not the problem, its the other 60million of the Greasy money.
Well as per Buendia I wouldn’t write Bailey off yet.
On Ings he’s fine as an addition to the squad. The problem is Watkins and him can’t play together - so you have to make a choice.
Which is fine isn’t it. Not many clubs can boast two strikers with the quality we have. We were bemoaning the lack of back up, and now we've got one, albeit one that wants first team football.
Congrats to Emi on making his Argentina debut.
Hope he’s not out for long. Our energy off the ball disappeared without him.
Sounds like he’s out for the weekend. That’s a massive blow to us, he’s so bloody good now. Gutted.
As others have said, it seems a bit too soon for him. The game passed him by on Wednesday. I'm hoping it's similar to Ramsey, who was nowhere near as impactful last season as he is now. Also, i'm fairly sure carney has already started a league game?Sounds like he’s out for the weekend. That’s a massive blow to us, he’s so bloody good now. Gutted.
Shiiittt.
I’d give Chuk his full debut personally. With Traore/Bailey injured it is a chance to give him a start and one less reason for him not to sign a contract.
Sounds like he’s out for the weekend. That’s a massive blow to us, he’s so bloody good now. Gutted.Yes but we will cope. Sanson in and move McGinn to forward position. Job done.
As others have said, it seems a bit too soon for him. The game passed him by on Wednesday. I'm hoping it's similar to Ramsey, who was nowhere near as impactful last season as he is now. Also, i'm fairly sure carney has already started a league game?Sounds like he’s out for the weekend. That’s a massive blow to us, he’s so bloody good now. Gutted.
Shiiittt.
I’d give Chuk his full debut personally. With Traore/Bailey injured it is a chance to give him a start and one less reason for him not to sign a contract.
As others have said, it seems a bit too soon for him. The game passed him by on Wednesday. I'm hoping it's similar to Ramsey, who was nowhere near as impactful last season as he is now. Also, i'm fairly sure carney has already started a league game?Sounds like he’s out for the weekend. That’s a massive blow to us, he’s so bloody good now. Gutted.
Shiiittt.
I’d give Chuk his full debut personally. With Traore/Bailey injured it is a chance to give him a start and one less reason for him not to sign a contract.
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh here, but in his games so far, albeit limited minutes Chucky hasn't exactly made us all go wow. Has he? At least not to the level of performance justifying the confidence he allegedly has in himself.
I think it was the wrong substitution against Leeds that’s all. I like Chuck, he has a great touch and knows how to play. Emi is so tenacious and buzzes about. Our tempo was lost with that swap.
I’ve changed my mind having read this from another thread.There is nothing new in this so called analysis. There is always jeopardy involved one way or another. We play as an attacking team and we need to carry on doing that. Better quality players will always prevail. We need to keep on adding quality to our team. Leeds got lucky for all 3 goals. Just simple mistakes nothing tactically revolutionary from Bielsa whereas on the other hand we scored superb goals with play that ripped Leeds apart.
https://twitter.com/TalkinTactics/status/1491873649346940929
Put Ramsey in the Buendia’s ten role. Sanson replaces Ramsey.
Ramsey needs to play with the hand break off and not be paralysed by tactics (that can come). Sanson will be better at protecting the full-backs and making us more solid.
I think it was the wrong substitution against Leeds that’s all. I like Chuck, he has a great touch and knows how to play. Emi is so tenacious and buzzes about. Our tempo was lost with that swap.
Wrong substitution was bringing Young on into midfield
I’m quite happy with him being a backup fallback but that’s it, He’s no midfielder now and as soon as he comes on it weakens the whole team
No problem with Chucky but if you’re bringing on an old man in the premiership against a fit premier League side you’re gonna struggle
Young was the mistake not Chucky
I think it was the wrong substitution against Leeds that’s all. I like Chuck, he has a great touch and knows how to play. Emi is so tenacious and buzzes about. Our tempo was lost with that swap.
Wrong substitution was bringing Young on into midfield
I’m quite happy with him being a backup fallback but that’s it, He’s no midfielder now and as soon as he comes on it weakens the whole team
No problem with Chucky but if you’re bringing on an old man in the premiership against a fit premier League side you’re gonna struggle
Young was the mistake not Chucky
How things change. A few months back there were questions whether we'd bought a dud and now he is one of our most important players.
How things change. A few months back there were questions whether we'd bought a dud and now he is one of our most important players.
There was a few grumbles about him but most I’m sure knew he might need a little time to settle in. He is bloody ace though.
I'm sure there will still be games when both Phil and Emi will start, but until then I like how he is not sulking and seems genuinely pleased to be back-up to Phil.I'm sorry to say this, but I think he is sulking. After Brighton he did come over to the away fans but didn't look very happy. After Saints and again last night he walked straight off down the tunnel without acknowledging the fans or joining the other players. Should we be worried about this or am I reading too much into it?
I'm sure there will still be games when both Phil and Emi will start, but until then I like how he is not sulking and seems genuinely pleased to be back-up to Phil.I'm sorry to say this, but I think he is sulking. After Brighton he did come over to the away fans but didn't look very happy. After Saints and again last night he walked straight off down the tunnel without acknowledging the fans or joining the other players. Should we be worried about this or am I reading too much into it?
I was basing my judgement on the hug he gave Phil at half time.I'm sure there will still be games when both Phil and Emi will start, but until then I like how he is not sulking and seems genuinely pleased to be back-up to Phil.I'm sorry to say this, but I think he is sulking. After Brighton he did come over to the away fans but didn't look very happy. After Saints and again last night he walked straight off down the tunnel without acknowledging the fans or joining the other players. Should we be worried about this or am I reading too much into it?
He wants to play every 90 minutes. Can't blame him for being upset when he's lost his place even when playing well.
I love Emi too. He's also got to remember that there's no guarantee Coutinho will still be here in three months time so he should be using this time to learn as much from him as possible so if he's the main man again next season he's even better for it.Good point.
I love Emi too. He's also got to remember that there's no guarantee Coutinho will still be here in three months time so he should be using this time to learn as much from him as possible so if he's the main man again next season he's even better for it.Good point.
I love Emi too. He's also got to remember that there's no guarantee Coutinho will still be here in three months time so he should be using this time to learn as much from him as possible so if he's the main man again next season he's even better for it.Good point.
This guy absolutely has to play. We looked a different team with him on the pitch pulling the strings.
This guy absolutely has to play. We looked a different team with him on the pitch pulling the strings.
I imagine that's Bailey done for the season, so no reason Buendia shouldn't start against Burnley.
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I’m not saying it’s the right decision but doubt he’ll start because Ings replaced bailey, did very well and he won’t drop Coutinho.
He is so tenacious as well. I really like him.
Absolutely. He did more in his first 60 seconds on the pitch than Coutinho had done in the previous 60 minutes.
I'd love to see Emi in a number 8 role. I think he could be the ball playing midfielder we need.
I'd love to see Emi in a number 8 role. I think he could be the ball playing midfielder we need.
I agree, seems Gerrard's too much in love with McGinn so far but I'd like to see it tried out in pre season at least given Buendia had strong pressing stats at Norwich and has shown glimpses of that here so with a strong DM behind him (and that's huge for our summer as we all know) I feel it could work in him being a bit of a tempo midfielder for us which all of the top sides have.
Certainly at home to some of the weaker sides in the division we should consider it at least.
I'd love to see Emi in a number 8 role. I think he could be the ball playing midfielder we need.
I agree, seems Gerrard's too much in love with McGinn so far but I'd like to see it tried out in pre season at least given Buendia had strong pressing stats at Norwich and has shown glimpses of that here so with a strong DM behind him (and that's huge for our summer as we all know) I feel it could work in him being a bit of a tempo midfielder for us which all of the top sides have.
Certainly at home to some of the weaker sides in the division we should consider it at least.
Not for me, Smith trying to showhorn Buendia into central midfield was one of the things that cost him his job.
So glad he got his chance and also took it. He’s such a fine, tenacious and very brave player. He tries things others wouldn’t ever dream of. His little sliding passes are incredible. I know bit every works but that’s ok. He could be so good for us if we use him right.
Not only is he turning into a brilliant player, we look a better team with him in it.
Gerrard would be mental to drop him.
Best player we have. Ridiculous he’s been on the bench so long. Don’t drop him again.
Not only is he turning into a brilliant player, we look a better team with him in it.
Gerrard would be mental to drop him.
No reason why he cannot play with Coutinho. The industry he brings should only benefit the relationship. And they are both incredibly creative
Not only is he turning into a brilliant player, we look a better team with him in it.
Gerrard would be mental to drop him.
No reason why he cannot play with Coutinho. The industry he brings should only benefit the relationship. And they are both incredibly creative
I’d like to see it, although not on Tuesday when we won’t see a lot of the ball, but have a worry that they’d both keep trying to take up the same positions and cancel each other out.
Every Aston Villa goal since Leeds away (7 games) has either been scored or assisted by Ollie Watkins or Emiliano Buendia
I remember a bloke behind me screaming the same at Dwight Yorke when he'd been our best player for half a season. Sometimes the morons take a while to catch up and trot out outdated opinions until their mates in the pub explain to them the next thing they need to think.Not only is he turning into a brilliant player, we look a better team with him in it.
Gerrard would be mental to drop him.
No reason why he cannot play with Coutinho. The industry he brings should only benefit the relationship. And they are both incredibly creative
I’d like to see it, although not on Tuesday when we won’t see a lot of the ball, but have a worry that they’d both keep trying to take up the same positions and cancel each other out.
Buendia is probably the player I enjoy watching the most in our team. Great energy, he seems to regularly improve our tempo. He's the only one in our midfield who seems to find good through balls for Ings/Watkins. I'm hoping that a resurgent Bailey and he can find a good rhythm and understanding too. He'd be the first name in my team.
It worries me that SG's thinking seems to be so binary about Buendia being directly in competition with Phil. It seems rather misguided; naive even.
I'd play him in Coutinho's spot at the moment, with Sanson in for McGinn and Luiz in for Ramsey.
I like Nelly’s side, looks decent with the players we have.I like CD's team - if we don't get a new striker by the weekend play Archer in that team - Everton's lumpy CB won't know what to do without a traditional CF to mark.
I'd play him in Coutinho's spot at the moment, with Sanson in for McGinn and Luiz in for Ramsey.exactly what I would do and start Archer up front.
Nah, Coutinho at home to Everton sounds like a winner to me.
Would go with:
New 40 goal a season centre-forward
Would go with:
New 40 goal a season centre-forward
What are the words to his song?Emi Buendia; from Argentina; he signed for Villa; from Carrow Road; he's five foot seven; he's football heaven; please don't take; my Emi; away;
He’s our best outfield player and has been since midway through last season and can’t get a game. Madness, we must start him.
What are the words to his song?Emi Buendia; from Argentina; he signed for Villa; from Carrow Road; he's five foot seven; he's football heaven; please don't take; my Emi; away;
He’s our best outfield player and has been since midway through last season and can’t get a game. Madness, we must start him.
To be fair Gerrard said in one of his interviews today that he would have this season if it hadn't been for a niggly injury.
Right now, I would take an energetic Buendia in the starting line up over Coutinho. Even if it was only for sixty minutes.
Coutinho looked to be limping as he walked off, so I would think Buendia is a nailed on starter against Palace.A somewhat "convenient limp" would that be?
Coutinho looked to be limping as he walked off, so I would think Buendia is a nailed on starter against Palace.A somewhat "convenient limp" would that be?
I really rate him but he was dreadful tonight. Kept giving the ball away.
I really rate him but he was dreadful tonight. Kept giving the ball away.
Do you, you normally give him minimum points every game? One of those things I find strange as often in the past I'd nod agreeing with every word you posted. Where did it all go wrong, Bronte?
I think he is best in the hole.
I think he is best in the hole.
NO
I think he is best in the hole.
NO
*starts stopwatch*
Seen what?I think he is best in the hole.
NO
*starts stopwatch*
I still look forward to it though no matter how many times I have seen it.
(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2014/01/york.gif)A total classic - will never cease to be amusing.
Sell. He’s had enough chances, too lightweight and not going to make it in this league. The flopping is getting old.
Sell. He’s had enough chances, too lightweight and not going to make it in this league. The flopping is getting old.
Don't be so stupid! His song is brilliant.
This fellow is proving to be something of an enigma. I honestly don’t know if he is good, bad or mediocre.
Sell. He’s had enough chances, too lightweight and not going to make it in this league. The flopping is getting old.
but in general terms the way peoples views veer from one way or the other is ludicrous.
The formation screwed us yesterday, playing Buendia, Bailey, Watkins and Ings was the problem away from home. Especially when all four were well off the pace.
I like Buendia, he’s a fantastic player on his day and it’s a pity the rest of the team are not on his wavelength at times.
Like the rest of the side, unfortunatelyThe formation screwed us yesterday, playing Buendia, Bailey, Watkins and Ings was the problem away from home. Especially when all four were well off the pace.
I like Buendia, he’s a fantastic player on his day and it’s a pity the rest of the team are not on his wavelength at times.
He loses the ball an incredible amount of times. Like passes straight to an opponent.
I like Emi, but recently when he starts he doesn’t impress, I think we may have made a mistake in signing him which along with P Cs form is a big problem, we may have to seriously consider starting nether of them.
but in general terms the way peoples views veer from one way or the other is ludicrous.
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I remain unconvinced we couldn't have plucked some kid from the Spannish 2nd division for a goat and a set of tracksuits that would deliver the consistency of his performances.Carles Gil
I remain unconvinced we couldn't have plucked some kid from the Spannish 2nd division for a goat and a set of tracksuits that would deliver the consistency of his performances.Carles Gil
We've had some pretty shit record signings down the years. Cascarino, Curcic, Collymore, Wesley, this guy. Bent and Downing weren't exactly roaring successes either but i suppose at least we made money on Downing. Lost shitloads on the others and preparing for the same with Buendia.
We've had some pretty shit record signings down the years. Cascarino, Curcic, Collymore, Wesley, this guy. Bent and Downing weren't exactly roaring successes either but i suppose at least we made money on Downing. Lost shitloads on the others and preparing for the same with Buendia.
Buendia shouldn't be grouped with those. He's a good player but if we play with a 10 then he has to deliver. Got on loads of ball yesterday but didn't protect possession well enough.
You could say that about any of the team at the moment, they can’t all be replaced. I think its important to see how players including Beundia do over the coming months under EmeryWe've had some pretty shit record signings down the years. Cascarino, Curcic, Collymore, Wesley, this guy. Bent and Downing weren't exactly roaring successes either but i suppose at least we made money on Downing. Lost shitloads on the others and preparing for the same with Buendia.
Buendia shouldn't be grouped with those. He's a good player but if we play with a 10 then he has to deliver. Got on loads of ball yesterday but didn't protect possession well enough.
Which has been the same since we signed him. There is no evidence to suggest that it will get better.
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Just saw this interesting montage of some of Emi’s creativity that we’ve wasted. I know he has things to work on and can be sloppy in possession but he’s also got immense talent
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1590432966853156864?s=46&t=izJas6TdeBl3xMD-kfvojQ
I liked his celebration after JJ's goal on Sun.
I liked his celebration after JJ's goal on Sun.
Every goal he celebrated like it was one of us on the pitch
Another superb pass leading to the penalty to add to his collection for Emi.
Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.That Gerrard era put paid to a few World Cup ambitions.
Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.he made his Argentinian debut as a Villa player, IIRC
Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.
Yep, there was all that emperor’s new clothes bullshit about Gerrard making the midfielders better players just by talking to them, or osmosis or something.Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.That Gerrard era put paid to a few World Cup ambitions.
he doesn't make our team most weeks so he'll never get in the national teamthanks to Gerrard which was sort of the reason for the post above.
Yeah - it was a massive mistake that cost millions to the club and individuals ambitionsProbably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.
At the start of Gerrard’s term we had a fair few internationals on duty. At the end we hardly had any.
he doesn't make our team most weeks so he'll never get in the national teamNever?
He's not good enough for an automatic starting shirt for the Villa let alone the world champions
He's not good enough for an automatic starting shirt for the Villa let alone the world champions
He’s 23/24. I know Emi is a goalkeeper, but writing players off too early can be a mistake.
he doesn't make our team most weeks so he'll never get in the national team
he doesn't make our team most weeks so he'll never get in the national team
Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.
At the start of Gerrard’s term we had a fair few internationals on duty. At the end we hardly had any.
He's not good enough for an automatic starting shirt for the Villa let alone the world champions
He’s 23/24. I know Emi is a goalkeeper, but writing players off too early can be a mistake.
Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.
At the start of Gerrard’s term we had a fair few internationals on duty. At the end we hardly had any.
Probably sitting there a bit gutted about the Gerrard era and what he might have otherwise been up to this evening.
At the start of Gerrard’s term we had a fair few internationals on duty. At the end we hardly had any.
Can't really blame Gerrard for injuries to Kamara, Carlos and Digne though. Buendia isn't good enough consistently for us yet, and Mings put one on a plate for Mason Mount right in front of Southgate.
If mistakes mattered to Gerrard then Maguire would have spent his summer scrapping in Mykonos again rather than in Qatar.
If mistakes mattered to Gerrard then Maguire would have spent his summer scrapping in Mykonos again rather than in Qatar.
You should know by now that Southgate doesn't like to lose face, and in his mind dropping Maguire would be a massive blow to his own perceived dignity. I just don't think you can really blame Gerrard for any players who didn't make the World Cup. When you've got players like Ben White, in great form and top of the table with Arsenal not getting a look in, then it's hard to make a case for Mings. Apart from the players who were injured who I mentioned before, who else should have gone? Luiz hasn't really been a regular, and Brazil have the likes of Guimaraes and Fabinho in that position. Watkins?
and Fred, if Luiz isn't a better option than Fred then I haven't got a hole in my arse. I think he's the only 1 who was genuinely hard done by and I'd put that down to Gerrard. A few others are probably 'maybes' to have gone if they were in top form and someone else was struggling but most were only on the fringes of the squads before Gerrard arrived and even if we'd been much better might not have forced their way in. Looking forward for the next world cup we really should have a lot more players representing us if we get where we want to be.
He's got loads of skill, but is too lightweight and gives the ball away too much. Can't see that ever changing to be honest.
6 goals and 5 assists in 50 appearances isn't good enough
His execution of the final pass has got to get much better, you can see where he is intending to pass it but so can defenders and he gets intercepted time and again.
There’s some likeable things about him, but not enough of what he tries to do comes off.
Strikes me as the sort of player who could become amazing with the right coaching.
But without it will spend the next eight years bouncing between the bottom six of the Premier League and top six of the Championship.
Strikes me as the sort of player who could become amazing with the right coaching.
But without it will spend the next eight years bouncing between the bottom six of the Premier League and top six of the Championship.
I worry that like Adama Traore, with the best coaching in the world you can only lead the horse to water. I hope I'm wrong.
Like Cash, if he doesn't start to deliver Emery will bring in someone who can.
Strikes me as the sort of player who could become amazing with the right coaching.
But without it will spend the next eight years bouncing between the bottom six of the Premier League and top six of the Championship.
I worry that like Adama Traore, with the best coaching in the world you can only lead the horse to water. I hope I'm wrong.
I think you're right Lee. He's missing attributes that all of the coaching in the world won't fix. He's a decent player, but we overpaid for him, and I think that once that Emery starts to build his squad, he'll be one of the first casualties.
Still the same questions about him we were asking when he first came in, he's not progressing. His workrate at least buys him time
Still the same questions about him we were asking when he first came in, he's not progressing. His workrate at least buys him time
He was better today. But for a supposed creative player his passing is well off.
I get the arguement that creative players will give the ball away more if they are attempting the unexpected. But even his basic passing is, at times, sloppy.
Like Cash, if he doesn't start to deliver Emery will bring in someone who can.
Alternatively, Emery is being handsomely paid to turn the £35m international for the current World champions into a better player than he is currently showing.
It's not always about throwing another record transfer fee at another attacker.
It's not Emery's fault that we overpaid for Buendia. I'm not entirely sure yet what Unai's 'system' will be when he gets his own players, but Buendia is going to be a tough one to make work whatever it is. You can see that Bailey is a classic winger, he's just an inconsistent one. He's got the pace and the skills to play wide in a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. Buendia hasn't got the pace to play as a winger, isn't strong enough to play centrally, and his passing is mostly really sloppy. Getting him to cut that out would be a start, but even if he does, if we get another forward player in I think little Emi will be making way.Buendia certainly does not seem to have the physical attributes to be a star in this league even if he has moments of brilliance.
It's not Emery's fault that we overpaid for Buendia. I'm not entirely sure yet what Unai's 'system' will be when he gets his own players, but Buendia is going to be a tough one to make work whatever it is. You can see that Bailey is a classic winger, he's just an inconsistent one. He's got the pace and the skills to play wide in a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. Buendia hasn't got the pace to play as a winger, isn't strong enough to play centrally, and his passing is mostly really sloppy. Getting him to cut that out would be a start, but even if he does, if we get another forward player in I think little Emi will be making way.Buendia certainly does not seem to have the physical attributes to be a star in this league even if he has moments of brilliance.
And, Bailey's occasional moments of brilliance do not mask the fact that he does not take on and beat his fullback very often and misses chances that a top player should be burying.
I think both are - at best - squad players in a world where we are actively seeking to make significant improvement.
Almiron was a flop at first at Newcastle, look at him now with the right coach in Eddie Howe. Let's give Unai Emery and his coaching team the chance to properly work with these players. Most of them were poor under Gerrard, but have improved significantly hence the upturn in results in less than 3 months.
He did some great things but again seemed to lose the ball more often than I’d like to see. I think I’ve maybe just taken against him and I’ll never be completely convinced.
His shot that came off the bar for Watkins to finish was magic. If that went in, off his weaker foot, it would have been quite something.
Unlucky to hit the bar twice and not have anything to show for it. Might have been his best game yet.That header was lovely, so unlucky
Unlucky to hit the bar twice and not have anything to show for it. Might have been his best game yet.That header was lovely, so unlucky
MOTM yesterday. Ours anyway.
It never ceases to amaze me how good he is with his head considering his size. Not so much with 'arial duels', but when the ball comes into the box if he can get his head on it, it's usually going on target, and he's quite good at finding space in the box.
Only other day I overheard Buendía talking emotionally about the fans calling a chant his name, its just so positive around the training ground these days.You mean we read what we all read, FV ...
Well I don't know if everyone overheard and was aware. Only making a contribution.Only other day I overheard Buendía talking emotionally about the fans calling a chant his name, its just so positive around the training ground these days.You mean we read what we all read, FV ...
Well I don't know if everyone overheard and was aware. Only making a contribution.Only other day I overheard Buendía talking emotionally about the fans calling a chant his name, its just so positive around the training ground these days.You mean we read what we all read, FV ...
Well I don't know if everyone overheard and was aware. Only making a contribution.Only other day I overheard Buendía talking emotionally about the fans calling a chant his name, its just so positive around the training ground these days.You mean we read what we all read, FV ...
I wasn't aware mate, I'd appreciate a link to it if you have one, thanks.
Well I don't know if everyone overheard and was aware. Only making a contribution.Only other day I overheard Buendía talking emotionally about the fans calling a chant his name, its just so positive around the training ground these days.You mean we read what we all read, FV ...
I wasn't aware mate, I'd appreciate a link to it if you have one, thanks.
Source: https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/february/07/Buend-a--Hearing-the-fans-sing-my-song-makes-me-emotional
I spatula it on Facebook.
Wait, I don't think spatula is the right word?
I spatula it on Facebook.
Wait, I don't think spatula is the right word?
I'm surprised this hasn't cooked up a punathon!
I still like him, he's a quality player that has a very nasty habit of giving the ball away. It's more a fine tuning job I hope.
I still like him, he's a quality player that has a very nasty habit of giving the ball away. It's more a fine tuning job I hope.
I still like him, he's a quality player that has a very nasty habit of giving the ball away. It's more a fine tuning job I hope.Gets out muscled too easily, hasn’t got that turn of pace or direction to get away from close contact.
I'd have him starting every game ahead of Bailey.
I'd have him starting every game ahead of Bailey.
Me too, in that role off Watkins
I still like him, he's a quality player that has a very nasty habit of giving the ball away. It's more a fine tuning job I hope.Gets out muscled too easily, hasn’t got that turn of pace or direction to get away from close contact.
Has other attributes and was a huge improvement on Bailey.
I've said it before, Bernardo Silva is pretty much the same size as Emi B. Emi needs to be locked in a room watching videos of Silva, it's not turn of pace or being easily out muscled that makes him a superb player.
I still like him, he's a quality player that has a very nasty habit of giving the ball away. It's more a fine tuning job I hope.Gets out muscled too easily, hasn’t got that turn of pace or direction to get away from close contact.
Has other attributes and was a huge improvement on Bailey.
I've said it before, Bernardo Silva is pretty much the same size as Emi B. Emi needs to be locked in a room watching videos of Silva, it's not turn of pace or being easily out muscled that makes him a superb player.
I've said it before, Bernardo Silva is pretty much the same size as Emi B. Emi needs to be locked in a room watching videos of Silva, it's not turn of pace or being easily out muscled that makes him a superb player.
The difference is Silva plays for a team where every game they have an average of about 70% possession, With Villa, you know that after every second or third pass we'll probably give it away cheaply.
I understand the point you're making but when does Bailey ever use the pace to threaten them in behind? - very rarely. Until Emery can help Bailey to utilise his undoubted attributes effectively (which I personally believe won't happen), we should - if we want a wide striker - be playing Duran on the right or give Buendia a role behind Watkins, whichever works for the moment.Not for me. Bailey has the pace to threaten them in behind. Buendia likes the play in front of him. I prefer buendia to bailey but I don’t think they’re interchangeable.I'd have him starting every game ahead of Bailey.Me too, in that role off Watkins
I really like him. Yes, he has his limitations and his decision making isn’t quite right but as a team we perform better with him in the team than when he’s out.I agree Brendan. I wanted only one of him or Coutinho in yesterday against a Dyche team but thought Coutinho as for me he offered far more than Emi B against Arsenal. However, with Coutinho out, i would start Emi every time. Its not right to compare him and Bailey as they are used in different ways but most of the time, Bailey doesn’t offer anything, so may as well have Beundia in there.
I'd have him starting every game ahead of Bailey.
Me too, in that role off Watkins
Not for me. Bailey has the pace to threaten them in behind. Buendia likes the play in front of him. I prefer buendia to bailey but I don’t think they’re interchangeable.
I'd have him starting every game ahead of Bailey.
Me too, in that role off Watkins
Not for me. Bailey has the pace to threaten them in behind. Buendia likes the play in front of him. I prefer buendia to bailey but I don’t think they’re interchangeable.
Surely, you are having a laugh. Bailey has no pace. I cannot remember the last time I have seen him outpace someone in a 20-30 sprint.
Why hasn't Crooks been watching his employer's flagship programme MOTD, which would show him that he's talking a load of gubbins (no relation to the Beeb's erstwhile football correspondent, Tony Gubba)?
Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
but failing to notice it was Mcginn who won the penalty.Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
The implication being that penalties shall only be awarded if all the opponents in the box are fouled. Garth thinking outside the box again.
Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).What an utter muppet. Presumably, the Beeb are paying him for this shite ....
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
but failing to notice it was Mcginn who won the penalty.Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
The implication being that penalties shall only be awarded if all the opponents in the box are fouled. Garth thinking outside the box again.
so minimal contact was made, that will do for mebut failing to notice it was Mcginn who won the penalty.Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
The implication being that penalties shall only be awarded if all the opponents in the box are fouled. Garth thinking outside the box again.
You'd think that someone at the BBC would have at least watched the highlights and suggested an edit.
Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).What an utter muppet. Presumably, the Beeb are paying him for this shite ....
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
Ignoring everything else that's wrong with this this bit is just a lie. The first contact is knee-to-knee and happens when his foot is a good 6-8 inches away from the ball, just looking at the angles shows you that the only way he get to the ball is by making contact with McGinn first. Whether he got anything on the ball is debateable anyway but if he did it definitely didn't happen first.
This idea that any touch on the ball, regardless of when it happens and how minimal it is, means it’s not a foul is just nonsense.
He didnt touch the ball FFS
This idea that any touch on the ball, regardless of when it happens and how minimal it is, means it’s not a foul is just nonsense.
But even that can be foul with the follow through
Like the old Arsenal center halves claiming they've 'got the ball' after first scything through the centre forward from behind.
If Gueye had touched the ball and then made contact with McGinn in that position it's not a penalty, but it's obviously the other way around.
This idea that any touch on the ball, regardless of when it happens and how minimal it is, means it’s not a foul is just nonsense.
But even that can be foul with the follow through
Like the old Arsenal center halves claiming they've 'got the ball' after first scything through the centre forward from behind.
If Gueye had touched the ball and then made contact with McGinn in that position it's not a penalty, but it's obviously the other way around.
Yes, no argument and as has been prove by the cameras.He didnt touch the ball FFS
No, you're right, but he'd still fouled McGinn before that bobble on the ball that had made it look like he had made contact.
I watched Emi's goal back earlier and what was really impressive was how we got the ball forward by varying our method a bit.
The move started with the ball in Martinez's hands. He decided to launch it long up the pitch, which (inevitably) resulted in an Everton CB heading it back into our half. Mings emerged with the ball and decided to drive into their half, but then cut it back to Moreno. We passed it around a bit, and ended up towards our box, still in comfortable possession, with Mings on the ball again. Everton had followed the ball, pressing quite high, and so Mings played a lovely ball over the top to Watkins - his first touch pass was impeccable, right into McGinn's path and we were away. The Everton midfield were all in our half, so SJM had an age to drive forward and pick a pass to Emi. All he had to do then was the footballing equivalent of when you pretend to throw a tennis ball for a dog, and the three Everton players all ran after it with their tongues out. 2-0.
I think Emery got frustrated against Leicester, in particular, when we didn't mix things up enough. He wants us to play out from the back, but also to know when to go a bit longer. Tyrone did that perfectly on Saturday. I would hope Carlos is a bit more capable in that department than Konsa as well, so if we have the two of them playing together, we should hopefully be able to move up the pitch with a bit more ease in the future. Plus, everyone will get better the more we do this.
It's easy to identify when this sort of tactic goes wrong. And it's usually pretty humiliating as well. But I think we are starting to see some tangible benefits to it as well.
I watched Emi's goal back earlier and what was really impressive was how we got the ball forward by varying our method a bit.
The move started with the ball in Martinez's hands. He decided to launch it long up the pitch, which (inevitably) resulted in an Everton CB heading it back into our half. Mings emerged with the ball and decided to drive into their half, but then cut it back to Moreno. We passed it around a bit, and ended up towards our box, still in comfortable possession, with Mings on the ball again. Everton had followed the ball, pressing quite high, and so Mings played a lovely ball over the top to Watkins - his first touch pass was impeccable, right into McGinn's path and we were away. The Everton midfield were all in our half, so SJM had an age to drive forward and pick a pass to Emi. All he had to do then was the footballing equivalent of when you pretend to throw a tennis ball for a dog, and the three Everton players all ran after it with their tongues out. 2-0.
I think Emery got frustrated against Leicester, in particular, when we didn't mix things up enough. He wants us to play out from the back, but also to know when to go a bit longer. Tyrone did that perfectly on Saturday. I would hope Carlos is a bit more capable in that department than Konsa as well, so if we have the two of them playing together, we should hopefully be able to move up the pitch with a bit more ease in the future. Plus, everyone will get better the more we do this.
It's easy to identify when this sort of tactic goes wrong. And it's usually pretty humiliating as well. But I think we are starting to see some tangible benefits to it as well.
Ha ha, that's excatly it!
I watched Emi's goal back earlier and what was really impressive was how we got the ball forward by varying our method a bit.Our second against the Arse and the move which resulted in Bailey hitting the bar are similar examples of us building from the back and either playing it short or long. Variety is the key - once all the players have learned how to pass and when to go short or long.
The move started with the ball in Martinez's hands. He decided to launch it long up the pitch, which (inevitably) resulted in an Everton CB heading it back into our half. Mings emerged with the ball and decided to drive into their half, but then cut it back to Moreno. We passed it around a bit, and ended up towards our box, still in comfortable possession, with Mings on the ball again. Everton had followed the ball, pressing quite high, and so Mings played a lovely ball over the top to Watkins - his first touch pass was impeccable, right into McGinn's path and we were away. The Everton midfield were all in our half, so SJM had an age to drive forward and pick a pass to Emi. All he had to do then was the footballing equivalent of when you pretend to throw a tennis ball for a dog, and the three Everton players all ran after it with their tongues out. 2-0.
I think Emery got frustrated against Leicester, in particular, when we didn't mix things up enough. He wants us to play out from the back, but also to know when to go a bit longer. Tyrone did that perfectly on Saturday. I would hope Carlos is a bit more capable in that department than Konsa as well, so if we have the two of them playing together, we should hopefully be able to move up the pitch with a bit more ease in the future. Plus, everyone will get better the more we do this.
It's easy to identify when this sort of tactic goes wrong. And it's usually pretty humiliating as well. But I think we are starting to see some tangible benefits to it as well.
I watched Emi's goal back earlier and what was really impressive was how we got the ball forward by varying our method a bit.Our second against the Arse and the move which resulted in Bailey hitting the bar are similar examples of us building from the back and either playing it short or long. Variety is the key - once all the players have learned how to pass and when to go short or long.
The move started with the ball in Martinez's hands. He decided to launch it long up the pitch, which (inevitably) resulted in an Everton CB heading it back into our half. Mings emerged with the ball and decided to drive into their half, but then cut it back to Moreno. We passed it around a bit, and ended up towards our box, still in comfortable possession, with Mings on the ball again. Everton had followed the ball, pressing quite high, and so Mings played a lovely ball over the top to Watkins - his first touch pass was impeccable, right into McGinn's path and we were away. The Everton midfield were all in our half, so SJM had an age to drive forward and pick a pass to Emi. All he had to do then was the footballing equivalent of when you pretend to throw a tennis ball for a dog, and the three Everton players all ran after it with their tongues out. 2-0.
I think Emery got frustrated against Leicester, in particular, when we didn't mix things up enough. He wants us to play out from the back, but also to know when to go a bit longer. Tyrone did that perfectly on Saturday. I would hope Carlos is a bit more capable in that department than Konsa as well, so if we have the two of them playing together, we should hopefully be able to move up the pitch with a bit more ease in the future. Plus, everyone will get better the more we do this.
It's easy to identify when this sort of tactic goes wrong. And it's usually pretty humiliating as well. But I think we are starting to see some tangible benefits to it as well.
I watched Emi's goal back earlier and what was really impressive was how we got the ball forward by varying our method a bit.Our second against the Arse and the move which resulted in Bailey hitting the bar are similar examples of us building from the back and either playing it short or long. Variety is the key - once all the players have learned how to pass and when to go short or long.
The move started with the ball in Martinez's hands. He decided to launch it long up the pitch, which (inevitably) resulted in an Everton CB heading it back into our half. Mings emerged with the ball and decided to drive into their half, but then cut it back to Moreno. We passed it around a bit, and ended up towards our box, still in comfortable possession, with Mings on the ball again. Everton had followed the ball, pressing quite high, and so Mings played a lovely ball over the top to Watkins - his first touch pass was impeccable, right into McGinn's path and we were away. The Everton midfield were all in our half, so SJM had an age to drive forward and pick a pass to Emi. All he had to do then was the footballing equivalent of when you pretend to throw a tennis ball for a dog, and the three Everton players all ran after it with their tongues out. 2-0.
I think Emery got frustrated against Leicester, in particular, when we didn't mix things up enough. He wants us to play out from the back, but also to know when to go a bit longer. Tyrone did that perfectly on Saturday. I would hope Carlos is a bit more capable in that department than Konsa as well, so if we have the two of them playing together, we should hopefully be able to move up the pitch with a bit more ease in the future. Plus, everyone will get better the more we do this.
It's easy to identify when this sort of tactic goes wrong. And it's usually pretty humiliating as well. But I think we are starting to see some tangible benefits to it as well.
Sucking the opposition in is the key.
That's 'in' and not 'off'.
but failing to notice it was Mcginn who won the penalty.Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
The implication being that penalties shall only be awarded if all the opponents in the box are fouled. Garth thinking outside the box again.
You'd think that someone at the BBC would have at least watched the highlights and suggested an edit.
but failing to notice it was Mcginn who won the penalty.Putting this here because Buendia has made Garth's team of the week (as has Martinez).
But FFS:
Emiliano Buendia (Aston Villa)
Awarding penalties are within the gift of the referee and nobody else - even if we disagree with him it his ultimately his opinion.
Anthony Taylor's decision to award Aston Villa a penalty for the tackle by Everton's Idrissa Gueye on Buendia, were he to look at it again, video evidence would show Gueye made contact with the ball first and minimal contact with the player.
But the Argentina international made all the difference when he came on the pitch just after the hour mark and took Villa's performance into overdrive. Having won the penalty he sealed the match with a excellent finish.
The implication being that penalties shall only be awarded if all the opponents in the box are fouled. Garth thinking outside the box again.
You'd think that someone at the BBC would have at least watched the highlights and suggested an edit.
Just taken another look tonight and amendments have been made to name McGinn as the player involved in the penalty incident.
He really does score a lot more headers than you'd expect someone who is 5ft 8 and about nine stone to score.
Why does he keep getting picked by Argentina and then not being put in the squad?
Why does he keep getting picked by Argentina and then not being put in the squad?
Why does he keep getting picked by Argentina and then not being put in the squad?
Cos he's not especially good?
Why does he keep getting picked by Argentina and then not being put in the squad?
Cos he's not especially good?
So why do they select him for a call-up at all ?!
Why even arrange a friendly against such a small nation? It would be like England arranging a friendly against San Marino.
Why even arrange a friendly against such a small nation? It would be like England arranging a friendly against San Marino.
Yeah but this is half the world away, not a few postcodes down the road to keep Walsall wassailing another year.
I really like Buendia.
I get that he can be frustrating and is too easily knocked off the ball, and that he has good and bad matches, but I love players like him who buzz around trying to make things happen, he's clearly very talented.
I really like Buendia.
I get that he can be frustrating and is too easily knocked off the ball, and that he has good and bad matches, but I love players like him who buzz around trying to make things happen, he's clearly very talented.
He has 'end product' too, always creates or scores. There have been many 'lovely' players down the years that did neither.
I really like Buendia.
I get that he can be frustrating and is too easily knocked off the ball, and that he has good and bad matches, but I love players like him who buzz around trying to make things happen, he's clearly very talented.
He has 'end product' too, always creates or scores. There have been many 'lovely' players down the years that did neither.
Not sure I completely agree with that, he needs to do more in my opinion. Tuesday was his first assist of the season.
I really like Buendia.
I get that he can be frustrating and is too easily knocked off the ball, and that he has good and bad matches, but I love players like him who buzz around trying to make things happen, he's clearly very talented.
He has 'end product' too, always creates or scores. There have been many 'lovely' players down the years that did neither.
Not sure I completely agree with that, he needs to do more in my opinion. Tuesday was his first assist of the season.
Really? Bloody hell.
I was think of Everton for example, his first touch off the bench in a tight game was the ball around the corner that McGinn got fouled running onto. He doesn't get an assist for that. Or the shot at home to Leicester that beat the keeper but came back off the bar to Watkins who scored. I'm sure there are others that might not have been the last touch before the goal but were the 'key' pass in the move.
I really like Buendia.
I get that he can be frustrating and is too easily knocked off the ball, and that he has good and bad matches, but I love players like him who buzz around trying to make things happen, he's clearly very talented.
He has 'end product' too, always creates or scores. There have been many 'lovely' players down the years that did neither.
Not sure I completely agree with that, he needs to do more in my opinion. Tuesday was his first assist of the season.
Really? Bloody hell.
I was think of Everton for example, his first touch off the bench in a tight game was the ball around the corner that McGinn got fouled running onto. He doesn't get an assist for that. Or the shot at home to Leicester that beat the keeper but came back off the bar to Watkins who scored. I'm sure there are others that might not have been the last touch before the goal but were the 'key' pass in the move.
Also you can’t hold it against him or anyone for that matter if the chances created are missed.
Risso, do you mean first assist that this time Ollie has managed to convert? He has provided many others that our forwards have squandered.
From Twitter, a nice video of Emi's best bits v Leicester: https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1643408016077619201?s=20
he's provided 5 big chances this season, according to stats, so this is a myth that loads have been missed. It puts hi 40th for chances created in the league.
I like him too but it's not a great output
he's provided 5 big chances this season, according to stats, so this is a myth that loads have been missed. It puts hi 40th for chances created in the league.
I like him too but it's not a great output
I've been critical if his sloppiness but I'm coming around to thinking he's becoming a key part of what we do, and he could end up being an absolute superstar by next season. He sees things other's don't and can crack a game open.
I'm a big fan of Emi, but I think he's been getting knocked off the ball far too easily recently.
We need Kamara back and firing on all cylinders so that we can use Buendia in the Bailey position.
We need Kamara back and firing on all cylinders so that we can use Buendia in the Bailey position.
Could always try the Donk next to Luiz, rather than change the other three midfielders around to accommodate Bailey like we did at Leicester.
I'm a big fan of Emi, but I think he's been getting knocked off the ball far too easily recently.
Recently? Sorry Chris, I think that's been his biggest issue all along.
He's an angry little man as well isn't he? Helps when we're pressing, but I wonder how the rest of the players react to his little tantrums. Is it understood that he's just a sulky wee firecracker and no one should take them personally a la Bruno Fernandes, or is he resented a la Zaha?
But everyone hates Scrappy Doo!
He's an angry little man as well isn't he?
He's an angry little man as well isn't he? Helps when we're pressing, but I wonder how the rest of the players react to his little tantrums. Is it understood that he's just a sulky wee firecracker and no one should take them personally a la Bruno Fernandes, or is he resented a la Zaha?
Poor little Emi, he is getting no credit for the fantastic assist for our goal against Brentford. Match of the Day etc ignored him. In a crowded 6 yard box he instantly controlled a 'pinball wizard' of a ball and had the awareness to lay it perfectly off to Luiz to calmly finish.
The assist aside, I thought he was poor yesterday. Back to his old self of too slow on the ball and too many mis-placed passes.
The assist aside, I thought he was poor yesterday. Back to his old self of too slow on the ball and too many mis-placed passes.
Really poor tonight, it was like Watkins and him were on different planets in the second half. Lost the ball far too often.
Really poor tonight, it was like Watkins and him were on different planets in the second half. Lost the ball far too often.At one point they had a proper shout at each other. I don't think hes quite up to the standard - too many times giving the ball away.
Requoting myself from Saturday: Back to his old self of too slow on the ball and too many misplaced passes.
Also add in - throwing tantrums on the ground rather than helping the team. He should have been yanked off.
Wouldn't swap him for anyone though
Wouldn't swap him for anyone though
Literally anyone?
I would swap him for Maddison.Wouldn't swap him for anyone though
Literally anyone?
As of today, literally anyone.
A spinning top on speed who is a pain in the arse to any opponent. Room for improvement but under Emery I can see that happening.
He’s going to be a very solid squad player next season
Thankfully, he had the cop on to raise his arms, get out the way and not bring VAR into play for our goal tonight. Many a player would have toe poked that into the net for the glory, without thinking!!
Emi's thinks at a hundred mile an hour. If those around him are not tuned in (like tonight) things can go tits up. I think our incredibly slow play from the back tonight got up his hooter.
Wouldn't swap him for anyone though
He needs to learn that sometimes a simple 5/10 yard pass, even if it’s sideways or back, can be the best option.
I thought he was terrible last night, seemed to give the ball away every other time he got possession.
I've had a look and apparently he was dispossessed 16 times, which is far too high. It felt like Fulham identified him as a weak link and targeted him in possession and he never adjusted to start giving the ball quicker.
I thought he was terrible last night, seemed to give the ball away every other time he got possession.
I've had a look and apparently he was dispossessed 16 times, which is far too high. It felt like Fulham identified him as a weak link and targeted him in possession and he never adjusted to start giving the ball quicker.
I thought he was terrible last night, seemed to give the ball away every other time he got possession.
I've had a look and apparently he was dispossessed 16 times, which is far too high. It felt like Fulham identified him as a weak link and targeted him in possession and he never adjusted to start giving the ball quicker.
Have to disagree, mate.
I think they targeted him as a key play as every time he got possession there were 3 players on to him almost every time.
....and he lost possession, which is the point Paul was making.
I thought he was terrible last night, seemed to give the ball away every other time he got possession.agreed.
I've had a look and apparently he was dispossessed 16 times, which is far too high. It felt like Fulham identified him as a weak link and targeted him in possession and he never adjusted to start giving the ball quicker.
I think at his best he just about looks £30m, let's not go overboard.
What I meant by weak link is that whilst he can make things happen he has an odd habit of, on a bad day, going to extremes and either playing passes without thinking or over-thinking and getting caught. Last night had perfect examples of both.
The one where he went down from the bang on his hip was a great example, he tried to play a one-touch lay-off to Ramsey but because it was hurried it looked like he had just taken a heavy touch and it broke down. Some people will say it shows he's thinking quicker than other players but for me it's that he gets a bit manic and tries to do too much.
But then there were 2 or 3 others where he just wanted far too much time and he got crowded out.
When he's playing well he's much more in the middle of those extremes but he needs to work on how to turn things around during a game because when he has a bad spell it tends to throw his whole game off and he becomes a liability. If Bailey put in a performance like that he'd be being ripped to shreds on here.
I think at his best he just about looks £30m, let's not go overboard.
£30m doesn't buy you very much these days. Certainly not for a player with premier league credentials. A number 10 capable of scoring and creating in the premier league carries a big premium. Look at Richarlison and Gordon, Leeds paid over £30m for Aaronson. Gibbs-White was £30m despite having 1 goal in 60-odd prem appearances for Wolves. I'd have Emi ahead of any of those.
What better clubs?
What better clubs?Ouch.
What better clubs?
We're not exactly at the top of the food chain. Ok, better clubs..agreed, bad use of words by me as there are no better clubs than us, but there are more successful ones right now.
What better clubs?
We're not exactly at the top of the food chain. Ok, better clubs..agreed, bad use of words by me as there are no better clubs than us, but there are more successful ones right now.
It would be interesting to see the league table before Emery's first game to see where Spurs were. They started the season well (we obviously didn't) and now with 5 games left, we've got identical win/draw/loss records.
It would be interesting to see the league table before Emery's first game to see where Spurs were. They started the season well (we obviously didn't) and now with 5 games left, we've got identical win/draw/loss records.
This was the table the day before Emery's first game:
(https://i.ibb.co/wSBKMQD/Screenshot-2023-04-28-at-13-33-32.png) (https://ibb.co/wSBKMQD)
This is the table now:
(https://i.ibb.co/6FmwPvZ/Screenshot-2023-04-28-at-13-35-05.png) (https://ibb.co/6FmwPvZ)
Yeh he’s way more than £30m now. There are numerous players that don’t even come close to what Buendia provides and has provided this season. Some critical goals and would have more assists if they’d been converted as many should have been. He’s frustrating but if was consistently playing at his best level he’d probably be at a better club. But he’s important to us, still a relatively young player at 26. I don’t think he’ll be a starter next season but he will be impactful when he does play.
Yeh he’s way more than £30m now. There are numerous players that don’t even come close to what Buendia provides and has provided this season. Some critical goals and would have more assists if they’d been converted as many should have been. He’s frustrating but if was consistently playing at his best level he’d probably be at a better club. But he’s important to us, still a relatively young player at 26. I don’t think he’ll be a starter next season but he will be impactful when he does play.
If we are looking to really progress to be in the higher reaches of the league on a consistent basis, then I think an upgrade on Buendia is necessary. I really like him and think he would be a good bench option in those circumstances, but I think that 'number 10' position is where there are a lot of top players around (as opposed to centre forwards) and we could get a real quality player in to play in that position.
It would be interesting to see the league table before Emery's first game to see where Spurs were. They started the season well (we obviously didn't) and now with 5 games left, we've got identical win/draw/loss records.
This was the table the day before Emery's first game:
(https://i.ibb.co/wSBKMQD/Screenshot-2023-04-28-at-13-33-32.png) (https://ibb.co/wSBKMQD)
This is the table now:
(https://i.ibb.co/6FmwPvZ/Screenshot-2023-04-28-at-13-35-05.png) (https://ibb.co/6FmwPvZ)
It would be interesting to see the league table before Emery's first game to see where Spurs were. They started the season well (we obviously didn't) and now with 5 games left, we've got identical win/draw/loss records.
This was the table the day before Emery's first game:
(https://i.ibb.co/wSBKMQD/Screenshot-2023-04-28-at-13-33-32.png) (https://ibb.co/wSBKMQD)
This is the table now:
(https://i.ibb.co/6FmwPvZ/Screenshot-2023-04-28-at-13-35-05.png) (https://ibb.co/6FmwPvZ)
We've made up 14 points on a team that until two weeks ago spent the entire season fighting for a champions league place. Pretty incredible really.
I don't want to complain about his performance too much, but it feels to me like you don't notice Buendia when he's good, but you certainly notice when he's bad.
Anonymous today.
Anonymous today.
It is the same most times we play the top teams. He is just that bit too weak, bit too slow and gives the ball away too often against the elite players.
Newcastle signing James Maddison so we need to respond in kind to that.
Sometimes we as fans tend to be a bit all or nothing, a bit 'world class' or 'bobbins' about players. Buendia's neither - it just exposes our squad that we can't replace him right now when he's having a bad one.
Sometimes we as fans tend to be a bit all or nothing, a bit 'world class' or 'bobbins' about players. Buendia's neither - it just exposes our squad that we can't replace him right now when he's having a bad one.
'Firmly in the bobbins camp' when he was key in taking apart the best defence in the league a fortnight ago?
56% pass completion yesterday, which is pretty dismal all things considered.
It’s never a great look for a No.10 to have no shots, create no chances and complete no dribbles in a game. That was Buendia’s lowest pass completion rate (56.3%) in a Premier League match since June 2020, when he made just 47.8% of his passes for Norwich in a 3-0 defeat to Southampton, and his highest amount of miscontrols (four) in one game since December 2021.
Beyond all that was the cardinal sin of often walking around after losing the ball instead of running tirelessly to win it back. Unai Emery will surely welcome the chance to use more of the options in this squad when they are fit and available. Philippe Coutinho might as well have a fair crack of the whip if, at the very least, it reenergises Buendia.
He's a passionate player and I very much doubt that part of his game will go. I don't like it either but perhaps it's what gives him that fire.
He still assisted at Brentford last week. Not everyone would have the composure in that position when the ball is pinging around the box. He gently tees it up for Dougie to score.
And yesterday even though he was shit, he still nutmegged at Yanited player to assist Watkins for a tap-in only for Oliver to slip on the wet Mould Trafford slime.
Point is, he's got touch and vision that very few in our squad possess. I'd fine him a day's wages every time he does his toddler temper-tantrum thing and I'd have someone in direct competition for him - either Coutinho if he's not semi-retired already or else someone new; and keep him on his toes.
He's been shite for weeks now. I look forward to him either not being here next season, or at best being an occasional sub.
He's had some great moments this season and he plays week in week out, un/fortunately I think an upgrade at 10 is inevitable this summer.
Just not productive enough for where we want to go.I think they did and I said I would swap him for Maddison.
He's been much better this season but it's still just 5 league goals from 20 odd starts and too much dallying on the ball when in final third.
Not advocating we sign him but James Maddison has 9 league goals this season so that's sort of figures you want from a number 10 type with a few weeks left of the season remaining.
Did someone really say on here a few weeks back they wouldn't swop him for anyone else in the league?!
He's been shite for weeks now. I look forward to him either not being here next season, or at best being an occasional sub.
He's been shite for weeks now. I look forward to him either not being here next season, or at best being an occasional sub.
I seem to remember you looking forward to us replacing Watkins too. Players have periods of poor form. Buendia will come good again.
Buendia struggles because he has zero competition for his place, that will change.
he'll be warming the bench next season.
he'll be warming the bench next season.Hope not.
This.He's been shite for weeks now. I look forward to him either not being here next season, or at best being an occasional sub.
I seem to remember you looking forward to us replacing Watkins too. Players have periods of poor form. Buendia will come good again.
Buendia hasn't been consistently good since he's been here, so not sure where the word 'again' belongs there to be honest. And anyway, that's such a facile argument to make. If every player was going to come good because Watkins happened to improve for a spell we'd have a team of world beaters, instead of still having to watch the likes of Bailey do the square root of bugger all for the umpteenth time in two years.
I wasn’t talking about Bailey, the thread is about Buendia, who in my view has done enough in his time at Villa to warrant a place in the squad.This.He's been shite for weeks now. I look forward to him either not being here next season, or at best being an occasional sub.
I seem to remember you looking forward to us replacing Watkins too. Players have periods of poor form. Buendia will come good again.
Buendia hasn't been consistently good since he's been here, so not sure where the word 'again' belongs there to be honest. And anyway, that's such a facile argument to make. If every player was going to come good because Watkins happened to improve for a spell we'd have a team of world beaters, instead of still having to watch the likes of Bailey do the square root of bugger all for the umpteenth time in two years.
Massively this!
And his small stature means he can't compete physically, and he's too slow.
he'll be warming the bench next season.Hope not.
I like Buendia personally, but if he's not what we need I'd rather try and move him on this summer - probably for a bit more than we paid for him - rather than let him get splinters in his arse for 12 months and us being happy if we get half of what we paid for him back again.
Like with El Ghazi - he's the sort of player we need to sell whilst his stock's fairly high.
Yeah...he was what, £35m? £20m-£25m at best recouped.
He was very good last night. He's never going to go a whole game without getting angry with someone though, is he?
He made that Tonali look like a small boy in the lead up to the firstI thought he was a bit lucky with that heavy touch tbh. A sharper player than Tonal would have just taken the ball.
Looks .....meatier. Still wearing the wrist/hand bandage thingy.Apparently he's a massive fan of Keith Lemon
Kamara is starting to worry me a little bit. He's a very good (potentially a great) player, but he keeps getting caught on the ball and it'll get punished.was a hospital pass from Cash , that said Kamara ha been caught out earlier in the game by the press. It happened at Chelsea last season (he got away with that one) then the Leicester H game debacle
Kamara is starting to worry me a little bit. He's a very good (potentially a great) player, but he keeps getting caught on the ball and it'll get punished.
He was very good last night. He's never going to go a whole game without getting angry with someone though, is he?
Yeah, but I like that.
When I was a kid, I was never the biggest and we often played with older lads who thought they could just foul me. The lads who knew me knew I'd only take so much and then they were in for it when I snapped, but the ones who didn't soon learned too.
So I like that he has that streak in him, though attacking people and chasing them off the pitch is obviously not the way to go in the Prem, he can use that anger to drive him.
He was very good last night. He's never going to go a whole game without getting angry with someone though, is he?
Yeah, but I like that.
When I was a kid, I was never the biggest and we often played with older lads who thought they could just foul me. The lads who knew me knew I'd only take so much and then they were in for it when I snapped, but the ones who didn't soon learned too.
So I like that he has that streak in him, though attacking people and chasing them off the pitch is obviously not the way to go in the Prem, he can use that anger to drive him.
Was this part of your evolution to muskateer status?
Kamara is starting to worry me a little bit. He's a very good (potentially a great) player, but he keeps getting caught on the ball and it'll get punished.
I’ve just been whatsapped a horrible rumour that he’s done his ACL. I can’t see it anywhere but apparently it’s on twitter somewhere. Hope to God it’s bs.
That's him this morning. Unless there was an afternoon session and it happened there?Clearly this is a deep fake - Bailey isn't on the floor
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/3e349cd0-3690-11ee-91a5-8d54c34b995c.jpg)
If there's any truth to this, we would probably at least delay the Aaron Ramsey deal if not cancel it altogether.That’s a good point
I remember one going round about Danny Ings doing similar which proved to be bollocks. Hopefully this is too.And Grealish
Not saying its true/not (as dont know) but he was 100% in training photos yesterday. So seems a quick scan/outcome on any injury if the rumours were true
On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...
On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...
Norfolk. Which hopefully explains everything.On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...
Jeez. What planet are they on?
On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...I can't think of a single metric where Norwich are bigger than Villa. Well, other than incest that is.
average number of fingers?On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...I can't think of a single metric where Norwich are bigger than Villa. Well, other than incest that is.
On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...I can't think of a single metric where Norwich are bigger than Villa. Well, other than incest that is.
Good point. Incest, fingers and toes. Anything else? Arable farms I'd guess?average number of fingers?On a little Emi sidenote, I took a look at the Norwich forum today, as I still have a little soft spot for them. And there's still debate going on from some about Buendia joining us being a sideways step, and how he should have joined a club that is bigger than Norwich...I can't think of a single metric where Norwich are bigger than Villa. Well, other than incest that is.
Beefburger eating swans.Yes! And 20ft high chickens and big-eared boys on farms.
Beefburger eating swans.Yes! And 20ft high chickens and big-eared boys on farms.
First rule of villa twitter rumours.
If it is a good rumour, it normally bollocks.
If it is a bad rumour, it’s normally true.
Does anyone know when Jacob R is back?
The wording 'significant' is pretty grim.
How old is he? Hope he comes back from this.
Awful news for EMI but a little bit of me is saying this could be good for us, particularly if we get a better and stronger quality replacement in - Zaniolo possibly. Even so it’s a real shame
The club don't know the extent of the injury and he will have it scanned. Hopefully it's not his ACL.
Without wanting to sound harsh, he didn’t look excellent in pre season, he did against Newcastle and scored a great goal against Valencia, bit otherwise he was fairly ineffectual and don’t think he would of been near starting for us.
Feel really really sorry for the player, just shit news. Not great for the club either in terms of squad depth.
Without wanting to sound harsh, he didn’t look excellent in pre season, he did against Newcastle and scored a great goal against Valencia, bit otherwise he was fairly ineffectual and don’t think he would of been near starting for us.
Saying all that, i have huge sympathy for him.
The club don't know the extent of the injury and he will have it scanned. Hopefully it's not his ACL.
Without wanting to sound harsh, he didn’t look excellent in pre season, he did against Newcastle and scored a great goal against Valencia, bit otherwise he was fairly ineffectual and don’t think he would of been near starting for us.
Pretty sure he would have been. He was clearly first choice in that position last season, and we haven't signed anyone to play that position instead of him.
Fingers crossed for a miracle but doesn't sound good. Doubt we'll see much of gin this season now.
Get well soon Emi ❤️
Using the current squad he isn't/wasn't first choice. Realistically he should be behind Phil too.
However, It's a massive shame and it reduces the options from the bench, but we have a better squad than 12 months ago and time to find an adequate replacement.
I’m actually gutted about this but not just from a footballing perspective. He just seems like a really ace bloke and always tries his heart out and was definitely coming into his own.Same. I love the bloke.
How long does a knee ligament injury take to heal? Depending on the severity of the injury, a torn ligament can take anything from 4-10 weeks to heal, longer if surgery is required. It is important not to try and rush back to normal activities too quickly, as this can lead to further damage.
JFC.How long does a knee ligament injury take to heal? Depending on the severity of the injury, a torn ligament can take anything from 4-10 weeks to heal, longer if surgery is required. It is important not to try and rush back to normal activities too quickly, as this can lead to further damage.
“Significant” is the key word. If, as it’s stated an ACL injury (the ligament that goes through the knee)and it’s a complete tear it will be 12 months. It’s repaired by taking ligament from the hamstring and attaching the torn ligament to it. A lot of healing to take place. He might be walking in 3 months, playing football at the highest level… minimum 12 months I’d say.
How long does a knee ligament injury take to heal? Depending on the severity of the injury, a torn ligament can take anything from 4-10 weeks to heal, longer if surgery is required. It is important not to try and rush back to normal activities too quickly, as this can lead to further damage.
“Significant” is the key word. If, as it’s stated an ACL injury (the ligament that goes through the knee)and it’s a complete tear it will be 12 months. It’s repaired by taking ligament from the hamstring and attaching the torn ligament to it. A lot of healing to take place. He might be walking in 3 months, playing football at the highest level… minimum 12 months I’d say.
How long does a knee ligament injury take to heal? Depending on the severity of the injury, a torn ligament can take anything from 4-10 weeks to heal, longer if surgery is required. It is important not to try and rush back to normal activities too quickly, as this can lead to further damage.
“Significant” is the key word. If, as it’s stated an ACL injury (the ligament that goes through the knee)and it’s a complete tear it will be 12 months. It’s repaired by taking ligament from the hamstring and attaching the torn ligament to it. A lot of healing to take place. He might be walking in 3 months, playing football at the highest level… minimum 12 months I’d say.
I can't see the club saying "significant" if there's a decent chance it's going to be a best case scenario. We can hope it is but I reckon the odds are stacked towards him being out for most, if not all, of the season.
Just seen Madrid keeper Courtois has just done his ACL also.
Just seen Madrid keeper Courtois has just done his ACL also.
Can we lock Emi in a cupboard please?
And we all think Carlos isn't the same player after his injury. What is Emi going to be like with his running and body movement?
Paul, I appreciate that you're generally a glass half full kinda guy when it comes to the Villa (as is your old sparring partner, Ads, ironically) but I'd rather prepare for the worst on this one.
If Buendia plays a key part this season at all, I will be delighted.
It's a guess either way. And mine is similar to Carlos, no substantial contribution this season.
Absolutely gutted. He’s one of my favourite players to watch. I love his technique and tenacity for us. Had high hopes for him this season.
Rumours yesterday that it was an ACL - looks as if they were correct.
A real pisser for Emi as he was on fire in the pre-season games.
Reckon that Monchi’s just opened up his "Busy attacking midfielder" spreadsheet and his contacts book.
One slight upside - at least we've got a few weeks of the transfer window remaining to bring in somebody.
I like he's got a nasty steak in him. He's always causing trouble at corners, and don't care if he's against a much bigger bloke.
Hope he makes a speedy recovery.
So cover
Obvious choice is Phil with possibility of Jacob when back fit.
This Felix geezer we keep getting linked with - is that his preferred role?
Or who else would fit the position?
So cover
Obvious choice is Phil with possibility of Jacob when back fit.
This Felix geezer we keep getting linked with - is that his preferred role?
Or who else would fit the position?
Pedro Gonçalves at Sporting.
I like he's got a nasty steak in him. He's always causing trouble at corners, and don't care if he's against a much bigger bloke.
Hope he makes a speedy recovery.
I like he's got a nasty steak in him. He's always causing trouble at corners, and don't care if he's against a much bigger bloke.
Hope he makes a speedy recovery.
Hope it’s not going to keep him out for the rump of the season. At least he’s not done his T-Bone.
We'll find out but I know where my money is.
Unai saying it’s a 6 7 or 8 month injury
So cover
Obvious choice is Phil with possibility of Jacob when back fit.
Unai saying it’s a 6 7 or 8 month injury
Realistically We're only going to be seeing Emi again next season. Shit!
Colour me surprised.
Emery on Emi Buendía: “Yesterday, with the last action in training. It’s a six, seven, or eight-month injury.
“It’s a tough moment for him, but we want to play on Saturday, thinking to win and be competitive for him.”
Happened right at the end of training yesterday. Fucking shameAny indication as to how it happened ?
So basically Emi is out for the season. Gutted for him and team. A very sad day.Huge huge blow
Less strong without Buendia, but we've still got the potential to play two entirely different squads between competitions. You can mix and match them other ways, and this is with Moreno and Ramsey back to full fitness. Could work Dendocker and Philogene in there somehow until then too.
Martinez Olsen
Cash Chambers
Konsa Carlos
Mings Torres
Digne Moreno
Tielemans Coutinho
Luiz Kamara
McGinn J Ramsey
Diaby Bailey
Watkins Archer
Less strong without Buendia, but we've still got the potential to play two entirely different squads between competitions. You can mix and match them other ways, and this is with Moreno and Ramsey back to full fitness. Could work Dendocker and Philogene in there somehow until then too.
Martinez Olsen
Cash Chambers
Konsa Carlos
Mings Torres
Digne Moreno
Tielemans Coutinho
Luiz Kamara
McGinn J Ramsey
Diaby Bailey
Watkins Archer
We only need ten men
Because you can do it running about?highly unlikely
Because you can do it running about?highly unlikely
Because you can do it running about?highly unlikely
Always knew MON was onto a good thing by never being arsed with training.
I think it puts Tielemans in the starting line-up for Saturday. I'm cool with that.Different players though. I had Buendia down as off the bench anyway, but he would bring something different off the bench , not sure what we have now - Coutinho i guess
Not saying its true/not (as dont know) but he was 100% in training photos yesterday. So seems a quick scan/outcome on any injury if the rumours were true
You can trust me DT. :-)
I haven't seen anyone trustworthy reporting it. I've had a text this morning and seen one person on twitter saying it. It's after 9am now, I think someone more authoritative would have started talking about it by now if there was something in it.
Carlos last year.
Buendia this year.
:(
Martinez Olsen
Cash Player needed
Konsa Carlos
Mings Torres
Moreno Digne
McGinn JPB
Kamara Chambers/Donk
Dougie Tielemans
JJ Coutinho
Diaby Bailey
Watkins Archer/Duran
Still a strong first XI, when fit. Gaps at right back, up front and with Emi out too. 3 nore needed.
Carlos last year.
Buendia this year.
:(
Carlos last year ear, Emi this year ear, it makes me angry when skies are grey, you know I love you my little warlord, please don't take my (Little) Emi away. La la la la.
Plus Kamara last yearCarlos last year.
Buendia this year.
:(
Carlos last year ear, Emi this year ear, it makes me angry when skies are grey, you know I love you my little warlord, please don't take my (Little) Emi away. La la la la.
Mate, it’s because you’re not a blue nose. If you were you’ll have 11 fingers to count properly😂Less strong without Buendia, but we've still got the potential to play two entirely different squads between competitions. You can mix and match them other ways, and this is with Moreno and Ramsey back to full fitness. Could work Dendocker and Philogene in there somehow until then too.
Martinez Olsen
Cash Chambers
Konsa Carlos
Mings Torres
Digne Moreno
Tielemans Coutinho
Luiz Kamara
McGinn J Ramsey
Diaby Bailey
Watkins Archer
We only need ten men
F**k sake. I keep doing that, I even counted twice.
Can you good people tell me of any players who have managed to perform at their very best post an ACL tear?
Can you good people tell me of any players who have managed to perform at their very best post an ACL tear?
Here's 6, including Alan Shearer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54625081
Thanks AV84.Can you good people tell me of any players who have managed to perform at their very best post an ACL tear?
Here's 6, including Alan Shearer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54625081
When you start listing the names you do wonder who we’ve upset; Bunedia, Diego Carlos, Wesley, Tom Heaton, Jordan Amavi, Darren Bent, Wilfred Bouma, Martin Laursen, Carl Tiler, Luc Nilis... I mean, Heaton and Wesley we’re in one game, one half even!
Is it confirmed yet as an ACL injury!!
Yeah, ACL's are usually 6 months. So mid-February. He seems like a determined guy so I'll think he'll put everything into rehab and be on the lower end of the timescale.
It’s not just the time to heal, though is it
It’s returning to fitness physically and mentally then playing your weight back into the team and regaining form which takes time
See Diego Carlos
It’s not just the time to heal, though is it
It’s returning to fitness physically and mentally then playing your weight back into the team and regaining form which takes time
See Diego Carlos
Exactly, even if it's 6 months to heal from the injury, it's then usually a month of training on grass, and then a few weeks of being a sub for 5 minutes at most. I'd be amazed if we saw him much, if at all this season.
Once we start seeing any of those things we can start to make clearer predictions. Carlos isn't a particularly good example because by the time he came back we were in no hurry to get him into the team. I reckon he could've played a lot more than he did if we weren't in a run of conceding 8 in 15 to finish the season with one of the strongest defences in the league.
When you start listing the names you do wonder who we’ve upset; Bunedia, Diego Carlos, Wesley, Tom Heaton, Jordan Amavi, Darren Bent, Wilfred Bouma, Martin Laursen, Carl Tiler, Luc Nilis... I mean, Heaton and Wesley we’re in one game, one half even!
Some list. As DW mentioned, Benteke too. There's also Trezeguet.
How do they define 'return' though? Is that when he'll be able to join in training?
How do they define 'return' though? Is that when he'll be able to join in training?
Ming's might be worse because it's a reoccurrence of an injury he's had before.
Was it ever really confirmed what Buendia's exact injury was? We all saw Mings' happen so knew it was bad.
Was it ever really confirmed what Buendia's exact injury was? We all saw Mings' happen so knew it was bad.
I thought it was said to be the same as Tyrone’s?
However, my guess is that as it was a training injury it might not have been as severe.
How do they define 'return' though? Is that when he'll be able to join in training?
Ming's might be worse because it's a reoccurrence of an injury he's had before.
I thought it was the other leg.
Moreno was the Halloween frightener, not Emi.
Moreno was the Halloween frightener, not Emi.
I believe AV84's point was that Emi was featured walking in normally in the video, rather than him being the person doing the "scaring".
Moreno was the Halloween frightener, not Emi.
I believe AV84's point was that Emi was featured walking in normally in the video, rather than him being the person doing the "scaring".
Yeah. I said the video of Moreno jumping out at people. Thought it was clear enough.
Straight lines are not too tricky with ligament recoveries, it's turning the knee in a different direction to which the foot is planted that causes issues. You can walk and begin to jog in one plane fairly early in recovery but it's loading stresses across the knee that is the biggest problem.
If he is out for the 8 months they initially said, then he might come back for the run in. If we are still competing on multiple fronts at that point it will be like a fantastic new signing just when we need it. I picture him coming off the bench against Liverpool and setting up the winner.
That's my optimistic spin.
If we have everyone fit and available we've actually got a pretty strong squad now, with just a couple of places where the cover players are very young/inexperienced, I don't think we need a huge amount of investment/new players to be capable of a champions league campaign but we do need to have a much better year with regard to injuries.
I think Emery mentioned that both him and Ty would be back training before end of the season but wouldn't be available to play.
It would be crazy to rush them back for a few matches at the end of the season when the recovery could get 3 more months for the new season.
I sure one or both playing could also give the team and the crowd a boost for the run in if we need it.
Im not even contemplating him or mongs playing this season if it happens great but we no way will emery rush either back.
Im not even contemplating him or mongs playing this season if it happens great but we no way will emery rush either back.I hope that's a typo.
Im not even contemplating him or mongs playing this season if it happens great but we no way will emery rush either back.I hope that's a typo.
Although you could see there he was blowing at the end. So match fitness still some time away.
Does he have to wear that watch? Must weigh him down, all eight stone of him.
Looks in good shape.
Does he have to wear that watch? Must weigh him down, all eight stone of him.
In my 'recent topics' column it says Emi Buendia - Injured by eamonn.
So now the truth is out, what do you have to say for yourself, eh?
Looks in good shape.
I thought he looked like he was carrying a bit more than he should.
Looks in good shape.
I thought he looked like he was carrying a bit more than he should.
I was looking at his legs, which seem perfectly normal. Not surprising if he is carrying a bit of timber!
I wonder where Ty is in his recovery as he started doing individual work a while ago.
Looks in good shape.
I thought he looked like he was carrying a bit more than he should.
Nothing wrong with asado as long as he’s only grilling the best Entraña😊I thought that too, he needs to lay off the asado.Looks in good shape.I thought he looked like he was carrying a bit more than he should.
Looks in good shape.
I thought he looked like he was carrying a bit more than he should.
It’s hardly surprising he’ll have put a Few kilos on due to the length of time spent in recovery before he could do any serious strength or aerobic work.
It’s hardly surprising he’ll have put a Few kilos on due to the length of time spent in recovery before he could do any serious strength or aerobic work.
That's countered by the club having nutritionists and dieticians who will have an individual plan for him.
Bit of plastic surgery and a wig, dress SJM in his kit and play him as Emi v Wulvz.
Bit of plastic surgery and a wig, dress SJM in his kit and play him as Emi v Wulvz.
Bit of plastic surgery and a wig, dress SJM in his kit and play him as Emi v Wulvz.
It’s hardly surprising he’ll have put a Few kilos on due to the length of time spent in recovery before he could do any serious strength or aerobic work.
That's countered by the club having nutritionists and dieticians who will have an individual plan for him.
And perhaps the plan is focused on keeping his weight where it needs to be for where he is in his recovery. He's not going to look as trim as players doing PL level training every day.
It’s hardly surprising he’ll have put a Few kilos on due to the length of time spent in recovery before he could do any serious strength or aerobic work.
That's countered by the club having nutritionists and dieticians who will have an individual plan for him.
And perhaps the plan is focused on keeping his weight where it needs to be for where he is in his recovery. He's not going to look as trim as players doing PL level training every day.
I’d be happy to be that much ‘overweight.’
Bit of plastic surgery and a wig, dress SJM in his kit and play him as Emi v Wulvz.
Learning to speak Scottish might be the trickiest bit.
Can we get him fit for Lille?
That would be great. But it must be very hard for a player to get to peak match-playing fitness for just a couple of games when the season is about to end. There must be a big temptation just to take your time to be ready for pre-season i would think.
Also emi played a lot of football under emery before his injury so that's just utter garbage, as per usualAs per usual if I have a different view to you it's called trash !
I wouldn’t leap to that conclusion Footy. Ollie and Bailey are evidence of how Emery can work with a player to improve their game. Buendia has all of the natural attributes required, and I think he has plenty of emotional intelligence control. He has plenty of potential for growth.That's a fair comment, and Emery would always be talking to him to control himself, but Buendia has quite a hot temper.
Also emi played a lot of football under emery before his injury so that's just utter garbage, as per usualAs per usual if I have a different view to you it's called trash !
That's no debate or discussion.
There is also the added touch of their knowing each other in Spanish, but Emery has always advised Emi to be calm. At some point, it is up to the player. I believe if he improves his temperament, he could be kept on.Also emi played a lot of football under emery before his injury so that's just utter garbage, as per usualAs per usual if I have a different view to you it's called trash !
That's no debate or discussion.
But the point is you're saying that he doesn't fit emerys play or style, and I'm saying that if you look at the fact that he started about 80% of the games under emery before his injury, it suggests that your opinion is a pretty strange one.
The good thing is that when everybody is fit* the competition for places should mean everybody ups their game, including Emi. Torres having a nightmare and couldn't tackle a two course dinner? On the bench you go son, we'll stick with Mings and Konsa. Emi being a bit slap dash and passing the ball out to nobody? Then on comes Rogers. The trouble we have at the moment is that the side more or less picks itself.
*As likely as my unicorn farm idea taking off, I know.
The good thing is that when everybody is fit* the competition for places should mean everybody ups their game, including Emi. Torres having a nightmare and couldn't tackle a two course dinner? On the bench you go son, we'll stick with Mings and Konsa. Emi being a bit slap dash and passing the ball out to nobody? Then on comes Rogers. The trouble we have at the moment is that the side more or less picks itself.
*As likely as my unicorn farm idea taking off, I know.
He's a big boy and very talented but I'm not sure about going in goal.
Still, if the alternative is Olsen maybe you have a point.
I think you've got this slightly wrong Footy, I don't think the issue is his temper or that he's a free-spirit but rather that when things aren't working he starts to try to rush things and becomes a bit sloppy. Once the sloppiness comes into his game you then see the other problems but it all starts from that initial issue of him trying to make things happen rather than just following the gameplan. Importantly though wasn't just him but a problem the entire squad had under Gerrard because of the 'create a bit of magic' approach he had which put all the pressure on individuals instead of the team and tactics. Some players thrive under that approach but Buendia in particular struggled with it.There's some great points Paul E but I haven't got it remotely wrong on Buendia temperament as he's often seen frailing arms about and that when decisions or passes don't come his way.
Over pre-season I think he'd clearly been working on that and was looking far less erratic (this is also why I think people thought he looked fitter, he wasn't wasting so much energy) so I'm half-convinced the problem is either already solved or at least well on the way to a solution.
My bigger concern is that we're a pretty small team in attacking positions and that might work against him (and I think Zaniolo, Duran and Rogers clearly show a push from the club to address that).
Although Buendia is a lot of fun to watch and creative, Emi lacks the emotional control, temperament, and ball-keeping skills necessary to be a first choice of Emery....
7 yellow and 1 red in 109 games. Footy, you're wrong.
So what if he waves his arms around a bit? He doesn't do it at referees, he does it when he's pissed off at the way play develops.