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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ads on June 05, 2021, 05:33:57 PM
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Percy (John) saying fee agreed, personal terms agreed and he's had his medical in Argentina.
Record fee of around £30m.
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This kind of thing doesn't happen at the Villa. I guess I'm going to have to start getting used to it. Bloody hell!
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Got there before me Ads. Solid work. This is a great signing.
John Percy - https://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1401214605163122701?s=21
On #avfc and Emi Buendia: initial fee of around £30m agreed with Norwich. Personal terms agreed and he has undergone his medical in Argentina today. Add-ons included, plus a sell-on. Will be a record signing for Villa and record sale for Norwich #ncfc
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WDFAA might need to become a common abbreviation.
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My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
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This is a massive statement. Splurge.
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Arsenal TV should be a laugh. Fucking tinpot club. The fall of North London is upon us. Between Leicester and us and to a lesser extent the dog heads it’s great to see some noise out of the Midlands.
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Hope it goes through and he’s good!
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Add ons rise to £40m. No fucking about!
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Let's hope he's the real deal
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Obviously a Smith signing which shows they trust him. 30m is in the ballpark I guess. A decent statement of intent.
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My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
When I read the first sentence, I sang out loud 'for the claret and blue'. It could be a catchy tune, well done you!
Hope it gets done. Hopefully becomes a major player and takes some of the pressure off Jack.
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Arsenal fans are starting to emerge all very salty and Norwich for whatever reason hate us. They still look at us as rivals with them to go down. Twats
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Please please please make this happen. 🙂
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Obligatory YouTube video to go with the thread
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Arsenal fans are starting to emerge all very salty and Norwich for whatever reason hate us. They still look at us as rivals with them to go down. Twats
Bumpkin oddballs with delusions of grandeur.
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My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
When I read the first sentence, I sang out loud 'for the claret and blue'. It could be a catchy tune, well done you!
Hope it gets done. Hopefully becomes a major player and takes some of the pressure off Jack.
Thanks Steve, those lyrics are in my head now!
So pleased if this gets done early. We really do mean business, no one at this club is fucking around anymore.
...and we’ll be there to see it in August!
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No doubt having missed out on Buendia Arsenal will turn their attention to signing Jack.
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Blimey, him and Jack will link perfectly, looking at that vid!
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My balls are tingling.
Our owners are deadly serious.
Wow.
When I read the first sentence, I sang out loud 'for the claret and blue'. It could be a catchy tune, well done you!
Hope it gets done. Hopefully becomes a major player and takes some of the pressure off Jack.
Thanks Steve, those lyrics are in my head now!
So pleased if this gets done early. We really do mean business, no one at this club is fucking around anymore.
...and we’ll be there to see it in August!
Altogether now.........
My ball are tingling for the claret and blue.............
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No doubt having missed out on Buendia Arsenal will turn their attention to signing Jack.
You've got to laugh, their reality is beyond their comprehension.
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I know Wes only just got into the Brazil squad before he got injured but with Buendia we will have two full internationals from Brazil and Argentina.
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Wow. He looks good.
Imagine him and Jack ripping into defences.
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Interested what role we envisage for him.
Not convinced at all if he's been earmarked for the wide right role, don't think he's anywhere near the sort of profile we need for that position.
If he's coming in primarily as Barkley replacement to play number 10 more and also fill in for Jack when he isn't around on the left then no issues.
30m fee aswell so hopefully we can squeeze in another decent fee signing for a wide player.
Still good to get one in early.
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Obligatory YouTube video to go with the thread
He's a mix of the body strength of McGinn, shooting of El Ghazi and quick feet of Grealish. Yes please.
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Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
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Big statement of intent to go in early and get the deal done, compared to the faffing around of previous owners/managers.
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Obligatory YouTube video to go with the thread
Looks like the Barclay we were supposed to get
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Gabby is loving it on TS right now and especially rubbing it into Arsenal. Of course he has no idea how to pronounce Buendia
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Even a Brentford fan has just tweeted....Grealish..Watkins...Buendia ...oh my !
We are feckin massive.
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Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
Why would he be?
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Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
Stop that!
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Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
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Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
Not over the line yet.
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Properly excited about this one. He looks ridiculously good.
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Properly excited about this one. He looks ridiculously good.
Same. If and when Jack needs a rest, it gives us proper creativity as a replacement. With both him and Jack in the team, that could be something very special - I bet Ollie Watkins is buzzing, he'll score for fun next year.
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On the Beeb site now...
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Emiliano Buendia: Aston Villa agree club-record £30m deal for Norwich City midfielder - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57371870
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
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Jack left, Buendia right and Ollie through the middle, that’s a mighty fine front three.
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Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
Not over the line yet.
Window doesn't open til Wednesday.
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I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
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I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
From the clips he looks exactly the type of player we need.
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Really happy with this. Flair player with an end product that is coming into his best years. Looks like we blew Arsenal out of the water into the bargain too.
Apparently from the same town as Martinez so will have a friendly face to help him settle in.
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Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
He's not.
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Jack will be staying precisely because we are recruiting players of Buendia's calibre.
A couple more in the same vein, and next season could be seriously interesting.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
Agent Martinez
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Obviously not done yet, but this would feel like something’s changed. Head to head with Arsenal for an exciting young Argentinian international, and we won / he chose us. Can’t remember that much at Villa and I’m no spring chicken!
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Identify the target. Get the deal done early. That's the sort of transfer business I approve of. That Arsenal fans are bemoaning the fact that they can't now compete "with the likes of Aston Villa" just makes it all the sweeter.
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I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
He was involved in 32 goals last year (15 goals, 17 assists) and ended up Championship Player of the Season. That's a proper player. And in a squad with a number of internationals and one of the very best in Europe he should only continue to contribute and develop as a player. He just seems very intelligent on and off the ball and he despite his size clearly has no problem mixing it up and winning the ball back.
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Shit the fucking bed! Had my Everton mate text me while I was out mowing the grass. Didn't believe him so came in to check. Fucking hell.
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Arsenal had a bid rejected too :) Having Arsenal rival us for a potential signing was always going to be a test and if you look at the transfer thread, many made Arsenal the favourites. It's quite the statement that we've beaten them to him. This was a signing I really wanted to see and I'm actually trying to delay getting too excited about it until the deal's over the line.
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Identify the target. Get the deal done early. That's the sort of transfer business I approve of. That Arsenal fans are bemoaning the fact that they can't now compete "with the likes of Aston Villa" just makes it all the sweeter.
Was saying the other day lets corner the Emi market and buy Smith Rowe from them.
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Welcome Emi!
Getting this signing over the line is a statement of intent to the likes of arsenal and the rest of the PL.
Not over the line yet.
Window doesn't open til Wednesday.
No but I was more referring to it not being signed, even if he couldn’t technically officially join up yet.
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Now being carried by The Athletic.
They employ decent journos and aren't prone to speculative transfer stories.
https://theathletic.com/news/emi-buendia-transfer-aston-villa-norwich/oLtwMxqx8LAV?amp=1
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
Agent Martinez
Usually players know where they're going quite some time before a deal is concluded so in hindsight, this photo from our Emi was probably a cheeky hint at this being agreed.
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I’ll be delighted once confirmed. My Norwich supporting mate says he’s a hell of a talent.
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Paid for my season ticket on Friday, new signing announced on Saturday. Those few hundred pounds must have made all the difference.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
Agent Martinez
I have it on good authority that what you don't see is on Emi Martinez's camera it says "fuck tinpot club Arsenal" in Spanish thus the reaction from both players.
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VP is going to be rocking.
Hang on to your seats FFS.
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VP is going to be rocking.
Hang on to your seats FFS.
Not yet, couple of more big signings to come and then let the show begin!
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
Agent Martinez
I have it on good authority that what you don't see is on Emi Martinez's camera it says "fuck tinpot club Arsenal" in Spanish thus the reaction from both players.
I looked quickly at the picture and thought we had signed Jon Richardson.
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I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
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Just had a look on the pinkun. They’re a strange lot those Norwich fans, seeing us as rivals for staying up. I guess they’ve not really followed the PL since they were relegated. Thank god we’ve improved the team immeasurably since our last day survival. Onwards and upwards
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I'm hoping he'll be like Barkley in his three good games for us, ie full of the same sort of trickery that Jack has in spades, thus making our front three literally unplayable.
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
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Just had a look on the pinkun. They’re a strange lot those Norwich fans, seeing us as rivals for staying up. I guess they’ve not really followed the PL since they were relegated. Thank god we’ve improved the team immeasurably since our last day survival. Onwards and upwards
To be fair we’ve been crap for 10 years but I suspect they are kids who don’t know the history and potential
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
Ha ha love it
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With JG and EB either side of Watkins, will Traore play as #10?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
Are we absolutely sure this isn't just the set up to a rubbish Argentinian joke about "two blokes called Emi walked into a bar..."
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
Weren't they trying to sign Sanson as well last summer? And we just waltzed in in January and took him.
Give it 12 months and Saka will be handing in a request amid interest from Villa.
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What I love about this deal is that inevitably some will say we are buying success while entirely overlooking the FA Youth Cup win by our kids. You have to do it in the market and through the academy. And we are.
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
heh, aye. carnage ;D
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I know these YouTube videos are usually misleading and could make Champion the Wonder Horse look like a world beater, but this one looks seriously impressive.
First of the pant-wetting signings I wanted!
He was involved in 32 goals last year (15 goals, 17 assists) and ended up Championship Player of the Season. That's a proper player. And in a squad with a number of internationals and one of the very best in Europe he should only continue to contribute and develop as a player. He just seems very intelligent on and off the ball and he despite his size clearly has no problem mixing it up and winning the ball back.
Those stats make Jack look human.
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
I’ve seen a few say that this means Grealish is on his way to them. Course it does petal.
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Nice one Villa. Great replacement for Barkley.
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
I’ve seen a few say that this means Grealish is on his way to them. Course it does petal.
Yes I suppose they have been kind enough to let us have a free run on Emi as Jack in on 5.45 from Moor Street tomorrow heading for the Emirates.
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I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
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So Agent Martinez has landed his target.
Wonder who Jack and Meatball have been instructed to chat up in their respective Euro 2020 squads?
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Pushes Bert out of the first 11, but makes him a great impact sub and cover for Ollie.
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^ and in a team that struggled.
Fantastic first signing. Perfect fit for us.
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I know its the championship but this is a lovely move
https://twitter.com/i/status/1401244844073402370 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1401244844073402370)
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How impressive is this?
Aston Villa going about their business in the most clinical and effective of ways.
Arsenal fans waiting for Jack to leave are going to be waiting for a while aswell.
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One Emiliano theres only one Emiliano. One Emiliano.......
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Who in the England squad would be a realistic target?
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Dina doll. Saka
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Have been looking around the net at comments, Christ alive there's some bitterness out there for us, mostly it seems from the kind of clubs who's fans felt because we were poor for a few seasons they were in some way contemporaries.
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Dina doll. Saka
That would be very funny.
Can you imagine the reaction from Gunners supporters?
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I think Chilwell likes the Villa.
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One Emiliano theres only one Emiliano. One Emiliano.......
No; here's two Emilianos ...
.. and they're both ours!!
;D
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Would love to hear a Villa Park. rendition of “there’s only two Emilianos, two Emilianos!”...
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Im not sure about this one, mainly because ive payed little attention to him really but looking at the Norwich forum they seem to think he's better than Maddison and we have gotten an absolute bargain. Welcome Emi.
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I'm so excited we have sent a statement with this signing happy days.
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Excellent signing if it happens, and now it looks like we've beaten one of their favourite clubs to a player how long till the media start the baseless speculative bullshit about Jack?
Oh and Norwich fans opinions? Who fucking cares, deep down they know that every member of staff from the 1st team players to the tea lady would walk over broken glass to join the Villa.
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Have been looking around the net at comments, Christ alive there's some bitterness out there for us, mostly it seems from the kind of clubs who's fans felt because we were poor for a few seasons they were in some way contemporaries.
Have Lee Johnson or Ian Holloway chimed in yet?
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I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
Last time I checked footballers in the Championship are grown men, often more aggressive than their more refined contemporaries in the PL. You don’t need to be physical to be good. You just need to be good. And Buendia is very good.
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I love our owners
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
I think they both knew at the time of this photo
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I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
Can both not be true? I literally said in the post you quoted that his technical ability is world class which accounts for the chances he created (particularly given he was the only creative player in their team) he just looked like a smaller guy who wasn't used to defenders being so aggressive (a problem most players coming into the premier league experience for a while).
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Early Birthday and Christmas present for Emi as well as us. His birthday is December 25th.
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I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
Last time I checked footballers in the Championship are grown men, often more aggressive than their more refined contemporaries in the PL. You don’t need to be physical to be good. You just need to be good. And Buendia is very good.
I saw a fair bit of him in the Championship because Norwich featured strongly in the televised Championship games and he looked like he could handle himself physically at that level, which is more rough and tumble than the Premier League. So if he could handle himself physically in the Championship he will be fine in the Premier League.
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Why are Norwich selling him?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
I think they both knew at the time of this photo
There doesn’t seem to be much of a Joleon Lescott I tweeted this from my pocket about it.
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Would love to hear a Villa Park. rendition of “there’s only two Emilianos, two Emilianos!”...
Brilliant
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Jigsaw piece number 1, good business Villa. Onwards…..
In reality I’m fucking excited about this, a little bit of wee has come out.
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Why are Norwich selling him?
Think it's the model they've adopted. Go up, take the money and go back down. Repeat.
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5th in the championship last season for tackles made, so it appears he works hard off the ball too.
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Why are Norwich selling him?
Because we're giving them load of money
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All I'm going to say is that today has been a Buen dia.
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Why are Norwich selling him?
Because we're giving them load of money
Plus he wants to play for the most beautifully named football club in the world.
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
Surely the embarrassment of being beaten to the signing of a footballer is dwarfed by the embarrassment of being the son of Piers Morgan.
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Bit disappointed if I’m honest, I mean, he’s with the Argentine National team and there’s that little fella that’s quite handy and we haven’t signed him yet.
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I think Chilwell likes the Villa.
Isn't Chilwell Grealish's best mate?
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Im not sure about this one, mainly because ive payed little attention to him really but looking at the Norwich forum they seem to think he's better than Maddison and we have gotten an absolute bargain. Welcome Emi.
I've seen one comment on non-Villa twitter that we've bagged a £100m player for £30m.
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
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Arsenal fans losing their shit all over social media.
Spencer Morgan, son of that c**t Piers:
We’ve been beaten to a signing by Aston Villa. This club is finished. Embarrassment FC
Surely the embarrassment of being beaten to the signing of a footballer is dwarfed by the embarrassment of being the son of Piers Morgan.
And the embarrassment of being beaten by little Villa in the last 3 league meetings with them.
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Why are Norwich selling him?
Think it's the model they've adopted. Go up, take the money and go back down. Repeat.
They'd got a £30m hole in their finances because of COVID. Presumably they've figured by selling one of Aarons, Cantwell, and Buendia they can keep the other 2, and won't be financially screwed. Which to me seems fair enough, we'd be doing the same if our owners weren't minted.
Which is why I think this summer we could really push ourselves a rung or 2 higher up the ladder .. we can still spend £100m or so this summer, but there's probably only 3 other clubs in the world (Man City, Chelsea, PSG) who are in a similar position.
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
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All I'm going to say is that today has been a Buen dia.
That's very good 👍
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
Great point.
That Lee Johnson ******, too, when he was their manager. Jesus.
Remember we played them here, they were doing well and saying all week how they were going to turn us over, Johnson was telling the press we're not famous anymore, not a big club anymore etc etc, then we put 5 past them and he shat the bed in his press conference because we were being disrespectful by singing '5-0 on your big day out' (or whatever the score was at the time).
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Early Birthday and Christmas present for Emi as well as us. His birthday is December 25th.
Slightly disappointing that he's not called Jesùs.
His parents missed an open goal there.
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Can't remember the last time we signed someone and every single supporter of their former club was gutted and thought we'd signed their one outstanding player.
Young from Watford?
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
One I particularly liked was ‘Villa isn’t the step up I was hoping he’d take’ Precious lot aren’t they.
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Can't remember the last time we signed someone and every single supporter of their former club was gutted and thought we'd signed their one outstanding player.
Young from Watford?
Martinez last year got that sort of reaction. They were gutted.
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All I'm going to say is that today has been a Buen dia.
That's very good 👍
Muy beuno
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…… and Samatta puns are still banned.
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
One I particularly liked was ‘Villa isn’t the step up I was hoping he’d take’ Precious lot aren’t they.
Also a lot of them saying how they would understand him going to Arsenal, but Villa 'aren't even playing in Europe next season'.
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For deluded fans I think Norwich are second only to Southampton.
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I just hope he's not the replacement ! I was going to comment that equally he doesn't turn out to be a John McGinn great in the championship slightly better than average in the premiership, but comments from Norwich fans seem to suggest he is the real deal.
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Bit disappointed if I’m honest, I mean, he’s with the Argentine National team and there’s that little fella that’s quite handy and we haven’t signed him yet.
The age, mate. Doesn't fit our 'profile', apparently. Load of old bollocks, Smith out, Lange out, Purslow out, etc...
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
Great point.
That Lee Johnson ******, too, when he was their manager. Jesus.
Remember we played them here, they were doing well and saying all week how they were going to turn us over, Johnson was telling the press we're not famous anymore, not a big club anymore etc etc, then we put 5 past them and he shat the bed in his press conference because we were being disrespectful by singing '5-0 on your big day out' (or whatever the score was at the time).
Yep and funny he ballsed up Sunderland’s promotion. Nothing against Sunderland, but funny for Johnson.
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
That's how I feel about Brizzle City
Great point.
That Lee Johnson ******, too, when he was their manager. Jesus.
Remember we played them here, they were doing well and saying all week how they were going to turn us over, Johnson was telling the press we're not famous anymore, not a big club anymore etc etc, then we put 5 past them and he shat the bed in his press conference because we were being disrespectful by singing '5-0 on your big day out' (or whatever the score was at the time).
Yep and funny he ballsed up Sunderland’s promotion. Nothing against Sunderland, but funny for Johnson.
Lee ‘2 home ends’ Johnson.
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Arsenal and Norwich fans upset, marvellous.
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It's one thing laughing at the salty Arsenal twats on the internet, but fuck me, check out the Norwich fans.
For years they've been my absolute least favourite small, yo-yo club delusional ****** who think they're Bayern Munich when they occasionally get promoted. Some of the stuff coming from them this evening is laughable.
What a bunch of risible, bitter wurzels.
Actually I have a long standing friend Norwich fan of 30 years and he is fairly philosophical.
They don't have mega billionaire owners unlike many of the Championship teams.
Thinks it is a great deal all round as long as they secured add ons and sell on clause which seems a positive for us
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Can't remember the last time we signed someone and every single supporter of their former club was gutted and thought we'd signed their one outstanding player.
Young from Watford?
Martinez last year got that sort of reaction. They were gutted.
They weren't pleased by it, sure. But there was very little "he's in the top one of players I've seen play for us"
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I think much of the ire from Norwich fans is because they've convinced themselves Buendia is a "champions league player", and that if he's only being bought by a "mid-table Premier League team", why not just keep him?
What they don't know, what few people who don't really follow football finances know, is that we have brilliant owners with deep pockets and we are NOT fucking around.
They feel much the way we would have a few years back had Jack joined Spurs instead of someone challenging for the title. I sympathise, a small amount, but in the next couple of years they'll hopefully realise what a good move this has been for the player...
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Imagine the Norwich board thinking like the twitter fanbase: 😂
Sorry Aston Villa we don't want your money because we finished above you three years ago and regard you as a relegation rival.
Did they miss the part where we spent £100 million on staying up??
Oh and keeping hold of our best player obviously.
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No guessing what’s currently topping the charts over on SHA. Bless.
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I hope he can afford to buy a car that complies with the new CAZ!!
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Actually I have a long standing friend Norwich fan of 30 years and he is fairly philosophical.
To Beta-carotene or not to Beta-carotene?
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Sorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
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No guessing what’s currently topping the charts over on SHA. Bless.
Even most of them are saying he's a great signing, he must be good. Also Liverpool fans describing it as a coup for Villa and wishing they'd gone for him.
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Excellent signing if it happens, and now it looks like we've beaten one of their favourite clubs to a player how long till the media start the baseless speculative bullshit about Jack?
Oh and Norwich fans opinions? Who fucking cares, deep down they know that every member of staff from the 1st team players to the tea lady would walk over broken glass to join the Villa.
And how do you feel when Manure fans say the same about us?
Food chain.
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Sorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
Not yet.
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Sorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
No but every reputable journalist or site of note is reporting all of the formalities are completed. Relax, enjoy the news and the warm sunshine of optimism.
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I still have some reservations about him coping with the extra pace and physicality, he was great in the championship in 18/19 and then struggled in a lot of the 19/20 PL games where he got bullied. However the highlights from last year show him being a lot more physical than he was so I'm optimistic that it has been addressed. If that is the case his technical ability is undoubtedly world class, the call up for Argentina is a big positive for me though because I don't think they'd have got him involved if there were still question marks.
Now bring on a top quality DM who can make us harder to break through in the middle (and free up the other midfielders to play 5-10yards higher up the pitch) and finish up with a couple of youngsters and someone with an extra yard of pace to play up front or out wide a an option.
He was 4th in the chances created stats during his only season in the premier league, which strikes me as pretty good going for a creative player that got 'bullied'...
Last time I checked footballers in the Championship are grown men, often more aggressive than their more refined contemporaries in the PL. You don’t need to be physical to be good. You just need to be good. And Buendia is very good.
I remember a few years ago, Jack was in the Championship, and there were questions if he could hack it in the Prem. Spurs only wanted to give us 25M for him instead of 40M. Now he's worth over 100M. I'm hoping the Emi2 story turns out similar.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
I think they both knew at the time of this photo
Having him stand next to the claret and blue balls on the table. Clues were obvious.
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Hopefully a good analogy Excl.
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and from yellow , should have had the green in shot
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We’ve got a lot more Emi’s than yaor!!
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Hopefully a good analogy Excl.
It's exactly what I hope as well.
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The bitterness on Molineux Mix is wonderful. They are outraged by how FFP doesn't apply to us and we've wasted our money on a Championship player. I'm sure it was ok though when they lashed out 60m on some kid up front and shit Barcelona RB.
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So… 10 years ago, if someone was to say to me that Villa would be relegated for several years and then promoted through the playoffs with new owners, serious intent and financial power, be sat on quite possibly Britain’s greatest talent since Gazza and a core of the team made of South Americans - featuring 2 Brazilian internationals and 2 Argentinian internationals.
I’d have laughed at them.
What a time to be a Villa fan.
Yes I’ve been drinking wine. Why not?! I’ll probably have a headache in the morning!
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So… 10 years ago, if someone was to say to me that Villa would be relegated for several years and then promoted through the playoffs with new owners, serious intent and financial power, be sat on quite possibly Britain’s greatest talent since Gazza and a core of the team made of South Americans - featuring 2 Brazilian internationals and 2 Argentinian internationals.
I’d have laughed at them.
What a time to be a Villa fan.
Yes I’ve been drinking wine. Why not?! I’ll probably have a headache in the morning!
It's a stunning turnaround. We were on the brink of oblivion. Noses, bitters, dogheads, twats from Coventry had all buried us. Written our obituaries (in crayon or whatever primitive method they all still employ). Then out of nowhere two blokes show up. Not just any old blokes, but two absolutely legitimately minted ones who love sport and looked at us as everything they wanted in a reclamation story. A team in England with an incredible history that with the right investment and personnel could once again take their place in the upper echelons of English and European football. We are a long, long way from the finished article. But even with the bumps and scrapes of the last two seasons what a feeling this is right now. Two lads in the England team, another 3 for sure in Targett, Ollie and Cash pushing hard, several internationals elsewhere and a superb academy with brilliant future stars. I absolutely love it. And for all of us who have felt the pain of the past decade this feels all the sweeter.
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I agree entirely. It’s not long ago that we were only 4/5 days off (at most!) from being declared insolvent. It was really close. From staring down the barrel of the gun through to becoming potentially a new force in the space of a transformative 4 years. Yes, we’re not the finished article and we will have some moments - last season highlighted this - but also, with the youth set up of Chucky, Barry, Young and the Ramsay brothers… it’s impossible not to get a little bit excited about the next few seasons.
I think it was someone on here who said that every once in a while, as a Villa fan, you get the feeling that something really special is brewing. I have this feeling now.
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Fans of other clubs are starting to wank over us a bit.
Saying a forward line of Buendia, Grealish and Traore with Watkins up top would make them jizz on the ceiling.
My friend who is a scouse Liverpool fan said that BTW.
I'm excited to see who else we sign this summer and where we go.
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Should be a good signing assuming it all goes through. I don’t think he’s played an international match yet, but it will be interesting to see if he gets some time either in the World Cup qualifier in Colombia on Tuesday, or more likely in the Copa America in Brazil this month.
I think Norwich may use some of the profit they’ve made on Pereira from the Baggies.
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Sorry if I’ve missed it, but can’t see this confirmed anywhere. Nothing on the AVFC app. Is it done and dusted?
No but every reputable journalist or site of note is reporting all of the formalities are completed. Relax, enjoy the news and the warm sunshine of optimism.
IFOTCSTS
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Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
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Our midfield:
McGinn
Douglas
Grealish
Buendia
Sanson
Carney
Ramsey
Nakamba
😏
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Our midfield:
McGinn
Douglas
Grealish
Buendia
Sanson
Carney
Ramsey
Nakamba
😏
You need to add JPB to that also. He’s got a load a potential
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Excellent signing if it happens, and now it looks like we've beaten one of their favourite clubs to a player how long till the media start the baseless speculative bullshit about Jack?
Oh and Norwich fans opinions? Who fucking cares, deep down they know that every member of staff from the 1st team players to the tea lady would walk over broken glass to join the Villa.
And how do you feel when Manure fans say the same about us?
Food chain.
When Yorke left us I didn't like it but understood why and his medals justify his decision.It's called reality, which Norwich fans don't seem to have much grasp of.
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I think this is the biggest statement of intent from the owners yet. Actions now backing up the words. Exciting times.
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No idea how it's figured out but I'm fascinated by his defensive stats (The Athletic is the source) on this stat wheel:
https://twitter.com/Worville/status/1399405988017487876?s=19
Someone clevererer than me can post the image up. The other image is Odegaard's stats 'cause the poor fuckers are going to miss out on both.
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From the clips he looks like a SJM type player or am I missing something?
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He will be a great addition.
Now we just need some more consistency from AEZ, Bert & Trez. Instead of them having 1 decent game in 5
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Fans of other clubs are starting to wank over us a bit.
Saying a forward line of Buendia, Grealish and Traore with Watkins up top would make them jizz on the ceiling.
My friend who is a scouse Liverpool fan said that BTW.
I'm excited to see who else we sign this summer and where we go.
I agree. We'll be unplayable, you couldn't double mark all 3. Very real possibility that Ollie will notch up 20+ goals next season.
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His link up play with Pukki is really exciting. I think Watkins in particular is going to love playing with him. We've been crying out for someone to play through balls through the centre of the pitch and it looks like Buendia is immediately looking to play that kind of pass as soon as he gets the ball. Great range to his passing as well and not shy about shooting from outside the box (something else we've been lacking in recent seasons).
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Can he take a corner?
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Can he take a corner?
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Fuck me, sensational, beating Arsenal to a £30m+ Argentinian playmaker. Can't wait to read their reactions, bet they're gracious.
Now we've got more Emis than HBO.
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Are we going to have Emi 1 & Emi 2 or big Emi & little Emi?
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Another one I haven't seen too much of but it's gone down well so thats good enough. We aye messing about am we?
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I'm glad Smith's got his man. Welcome Emi.
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My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
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My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
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Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
I see it as insurance, but not against Jack leaving, more a lesson learned about how our form dipped when he was unavailable, or off form personally. This just feels like an attempt to make us less of a one-man creative force. I think it's a brilliant sign of how the club is run these days. "This was an issue last season, how do we fix it? Oh, right, well let's get the deal done as quickly as possible with the least amount of fuss imaginable"
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Fans of other clubs are starting to wank over us a bit.
Saying a forward line of Buendia, Grealish and Traore with Watkins up top would make them jizz on the ceiling.
My friend who is a scouse Liverpool fan said that BTW.
I'm excited to see who else we sign this summer and where we go.
What other fans don't yet realise is that we have Chuk, Philogene-Bidace and Barry to weave into the mix as well: a surprise package or two will give our opponents even more to think about.
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Great news. This lad is a very good player. We still need an enforcer in the middle unless Chuck can be that. But it’s great to see us improving an area of the squad that needed a quality addition.
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Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
I see it as insurance, but not against Jack leaving, more a lesson learned about how our form dipped when he was unavailable, or off form personally. This just feels like an attempt to make us less of a one-man creative force. I think it's a brilliant sign of how the club is run these days. "This was an issue last season, how do we fix it? Oh, right, well let's get the deal done as quickly as possible with the least amount of fuss imaginable"
Delaney is close to the Manchester clubs, and doubtless from City's point of view they can't imagine why Jack wouldn't go there this summer, but nobody I've seen who reports close to the Villa seems to think it's inevitable at all. Evans in the Athletic reported we want Buendia to play with Jack.
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Would Buendia sign on if Jack was going straight out the door? I can't see us selling under £100 million plus, and I can't see anyone paying that for a player with a clear long term injury issue that needs managing. If City do pay it, not much we can do, but I trust Villa to find a couple of forward players with the money to compliment what we have and still kick on. Especially with Buendia in there to pull the strings.
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From the clips he looks like a SJM type player or am I missing something?
More Barkley I thought, or what Barkley hinted that he could be.
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So not a wide right player.
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So not a wide right player.
Nope that’s still to come…..
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Posted 38 minutes ago
1 hour ago, Wardogz said:
This is such an embarrassing topic for us. There's no reason to hate Villa. Delete.
Yes there is, Paul Lambert, they came here to our final home game and Villa fans were so arrogant about Lambert going to them, pre game we’re arseholes and during the match. The sort of arrogance you’d expect from Leeds fans.
Well that worked out well! Now we’ll see if Buendia can make that transition to a new team without Pukki
Yes, that'll be the biggest worry for all concerned. I wonder how Messi manages without access to the world's greatest striker, Pingu.
That's from "the 'I hate Villa' thread".
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They seem to dislike Mings more than is healthy as well. Did he do something to offend them sometime?
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Played for Ipswich I guess.
Pukki does have brilliant movement from the Buendia clips.
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When we were absolutely shite we still clicked our fingers and their manager came running. They really thought they would be able to hold onto a star player now we are the biggest spending club on Earth. Delusional yoyo twats.
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The arrival of NSWE and us pulling our shit together on and off the pitch has co-incided with quite a level of 'hatred' from some random clubs. I fucking love it.
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They seem to dislike Mings more than is healthy as well. Did he do something to offend them sometime?
Throw in a bit of casual curry-based racism about the B6 area and you have yourself a perfect storm of a fanbase in total meltdown.
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This signing gives us two things we have lacked.
One is ball retention the second is a killer pass through the middle.
I work with a Norwich fan- this lad is the real deal and still only 24!
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Played for Ipswich I guess.
Pukki does have brilliant movement from the Buendia clips.
swap that for ollie
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I love it when team x claim their best player is only made to look good because of that other player, the one they keep because no one wants.
Grealish, let's see how good he looks without Keinan Davis.
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Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
I thought it was an area most agreed we needed to address. There was a feeling that Barkley on form was exactly the sort of player we needed, and we need to find a better, more consistent version. Let's hope we have.
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Creative/attacking midfield is not an area of the pitch many of us have been asking to address which does make me a bit concerned that this is partly an insurance move against Grealish leaving (the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening). But hopefully, Jack and Emi can be together in electric dreams for us.
I see it as insurance, but not against Jack leaving, more a lesson learned about how our form dipped when he was unavailable, or off form personally. This just feels like an attempt to make us less of a one-man creative force. I think it's a brilliant sign of how the club is run these days. "This was an issue last season, how do we fix it? Oh, right, well let's get the deal done as quickly as possible with the least amount of fuss imaginable"
Delaney is close to the Manchester clubs, and doubtless from City's point of view they can't imagine why Jack wouldn't go there this summer, but nobody I've seen who reports close to the Villa seems to think it's inevitable at all. Evans in the Athletic reported we want Buendia to play with Jack.
Sure it was in the Athletic that I read Jack was told before he linked up with England that we wouldn't be accepting any bids for him, and this summer was all about bringing the rest of the team up to the standards he deserves. And that Jack was looking forward to next season with us.
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They seem to dislike Mings more than is healthy as well. Did he do something to offend them sometime?
Throw in a bit of casual curry-based racism about the B6 area and you have yourself a perfect storm of a fanbase in total meltdown.
A couple of years ago we played them on the last day of the season. They won the Championship title on our pitch and a packed Villa Park allowed them their big moment and applauded them. The hallowed turf of the fifth most successful club in English football history was given over to them for the day. But anyone who understands football in this country knows it was a bump in the road for us. Well now we're back from those dark days and are elbowing our way back to the top where we belong. Sorry if we've ruffled a few Canary feathers but 30+ million quid landing in their account should soften the blow. There's going to be plenty more clubs who get their egos deflated by us but to be honest I couldn't give a fuck. As David Bradley put it in the brilliant "140 years" video WE'RE ASTON VILLA.
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Arsenal and Norwich fans online haven't got a clue. Signing Buendia clearly means Grealish is off. Right. Ok.
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Why would Grealish join Arsenal? Why? Hubristic, pompous, entitled wankpots.
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I think this is an excellent signing. The fact we beat Arsenal to him is also a great coup and big statement of intent.
Brilliant stuff.
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I don't think we should underestimate the influence Emi Martinez had in this one. He spent years being totally unused and unrated by Arsenal. Now look at him. I'm guessing obviously but I'm pretty sure those two had a conversation and Emis advice was to come to Villa. The guys fast becoming a legend at Villa Park.
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Sounds great news, but I'll be celebrating, when the deal's done.
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Why would Grealish join Arsenal? Why? Hubristic, pompous, entitled wankpots.
With regards to Arsenal fans, I really couldn’t put that any better.
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X from The Athletic (written in January)
Norwich City’s FA Cup tie with Coventry was all but won yet Emi Buendia still jogged on for an 18-minute cameo — long enough to create a chance, scream towards the heavens after being ignored for a pass and stare venomously into the stands (despite them being empty).
In some ways, it was a fitting 100th appearance for the club’s third, and most-used, Argentinian player; their only South American goalscorer.
Norwich have won precisely one league game without Buendia since he arrived in 2018. He looked like a Premier League player more than most in Daniel Farke’s relegation-bound squad last season. One way or another, Buendia will return to the country’s top flight this summer.
His story since making his Norwich debut is well known, his impact enough for supporters to label him “Football Heaven”, but what led a midfielder from Argentina to ascend to such heights in a rural corner of England?
This is “the fat kid” Norwich gambled to sign. The “difficult-to-manage” fighter. The petulant talent who still seemed beyond their recruitment power. Norwich’s dirty little secret.
This is Emi Buendia in Spain.
“You are seeing the football now that I saw when he was a child. His ambition. His desire to develop, improve and reach the highest level.” — Pablo Franco
Some people saw it. Some didn’t. Buendia spoke in depth to The Athletic in August 2019 about his upbringing in Argentina’s Atlantic coastal resort of Mar del Plata, the futbol de potrero (street football) that formed him, supporting River Plate and some of the sacrifices his family made for his opportunities.
Playing for Cadetes de San Martin from the age of five was Buendia’s beginning. Come 2008, after catching the eye of Juan Esnaider, the former Atletico Madrid and Juventus striker (also from Mar del Plata) arranged for the 11-year-old to have a trial at Real Madrid.
It was successful. For the first six months, Buendia lived with Esnaider and other young footballers before his parents, Karina and Eduardo, brought the family to Madrid permanently, including Buendia’s two younger brothers, Augustin and Joaquin. Both had to repeat a year of their education after arriving in Spain.
The academy was daunting. Zinedine Zidane’s eldest sons — Enzo, a No 10, was two years up, with goalkeeper Luca a year below – sandwiched Buendia. He had learned to dribble and beat players in Argentina but in Spain, Buendia needed time to adjust to the higher passing tempo. Already behind in his physical development, a knee injury in the 2009-10 season left him chasing minutes to shine before that campaign finished.
When it did, Real Madrid felt he wouldn’t get much game time the following year. Buendia’s two “dreamy” seasons were over.
The only remaining evidence is a post from partisan supporters’ website, Defensa Central, on December 28, 2009, wishing happy birthday to promising 19-year-old left-back Marcos Alonso. Tagged to the bottom was a similar sentiment to a talent in their youth ranks. Buendia had turned 13 three days earlier. The Argentinian’s birthday falling on Christmas Day has never been lost on Norwich supporters.
Esnaider stepped in again. Within days, Buendia was signed by the academy of another La Liga club: Getafe.
That kept him in Madrid: good news for the Carlos Sainz Karting track, where Buendia regularly raced with friends and family. He owned his own kart in Argentina and can still handle himself on the track — Buendia won Norwich’s karting grand prix during their pre-season camp in Germany last year.
Buendia’s rise through Getafe’s junior ranks soon progressed at a similar pace.
Pablo Franco was looking at his new squad and he was worried. It was only July 2014 and, having joined the club as Getafe’s B-team manager, surviving a season in Spain’s regionalised third tier already looked problematic.
Fortunately, not all his players were in front of him.
“Our sporting director, Carlos Guerrero, told me about some of the players who were actually with the first team,” Franco tells The Athletic. “Mateo Garcia was our Juvenile C (under-18) head coach and also Emi’s coach at Real Madrid. He said to me, ‘He’s very short, so you’re going to see him and say he can’t play with us but I can tell you, he’s a very good player’.”
The previous season, Garcia noticed Buendia was not being used by Getafe Under-17s and asked if he could take him. Within two weeks, he was asked to train with Getafe B. After the session, he was told “come back tomorrow” until Buendia earned his senior football debut that March, a 2-1 win at Puerta Bonita. At 17, Buendia was the youngest player to appear in the division that season.
Under Franco, Buendia remained one of the youngest in Getafe B’s squad.
“When you see him for the first time, you see Emi has everything. It was like seeing a spark. Magic. You are paying attention because it’s something you have never seen before,” says Franco, now manager of Kuwaiti side, Qadsia.
“You realised he could play with both feet, shoot really hard and really accurately. He was making good decisions when only 18 years old and making them without hesitation. He was brave in those situations. We would be winning and he’s still arriving in the box to finish an action because he has the desire to score. If we lost the ball, he reacted quick; fighting the opponent, tackling. In just a few minutes, you could see he was doing everything in terms of intensity and ambition at a higher level than the professional players. It was just, ‘Wow’.”
Three goals in two games under Franco saw Buendia earn his first-team bow in a Copa del Rey win over Eibar in the December. By January, Quique Sanchez Flores’s second spell in charge of Getafe had begun and once February arrived, Buendia was handed his La Liga debut at Almeria. Aged 18 years and 37 days, he was the youngest player to represent Getafe in the competition, going on to help them reach the Copa quarter-finals that season.
“It was a difficult period for the club,” Sanchez Flores tells The Athletic. “They didn’t have money for new players, so we needed to take players from the academy, and one of the best was Emi. He was very focused; convinced he would be a professional.
“He needed to improve in his defensive tasks but he was a very good player. He didn’t look afraid of anything, always asking for the ball and wanting to help the team. Already more mature than 18. His body was small but compact. He had that power.
“We just told Emi to force the defensive tasks, be careful, pay attention, but when you take the ball, please bring your quality and create solutions. I prefer good players to follow their instinct to invent different things; to feel the freedom. I remember he was improving fast.”
Buendia’s former Getafe team-mate Diego Castro, now with Perth Glory in Australia, adds: “You could already see he had a different mindset. We’d been doing cardio tests to see who could keep running. I felt I’d always be top five — then Emi came through and smashed everybody. That was the first time it had happened to me like that.
“It stuck with me that he was willing to commit so he could reach a better level. He carried football in his mind for 24 hours. Even if a coach or someone else could not trust him, he always knew what path to follow.”
Despite Buendia’s first-team impact, his return to the B team did not always please Franco. The day after being an unused substitute for Getafe’s home La Liga win over Espanyol in the February, Getafe B had a 500km trip to Basque side Real Union. Buendia and three other first-team substitutes the previous night were driven north by Guerrero to make kick-off.
“I was feeling, when Emi came back from the first team, he was not training at the same level,” recalls Franco. “He was a little lazier or saving himself for the big guys, so I had to be tough and make him react. I started the other three players and played Emi for only 20 minutes.
“It was a tough situation for him. I know he was angry. He was with the first team, making a big effort to get to a B-team game, then the coach was not playing him. Sometimes, relationships between players and coaches are not the best but when you’re looking for the best — for the player and the team — it works. He learned from that. I hope he remembers this situation with a little fondness.
“He was not easy to manage. He was an amazing person but as a player, you had a fighter every day in the training ground. That’s fantastic for a head coach in effort, intensity and quality, but also difficult for keeping a good atmosphere with the team. There can be many disputes. I understood it was part of Emi’s game. I loved it but I also knew sometimes I had to be hard.
“Emi always reacted well. That’s why he’s reaching the level he’s reaching. It wasn’t a matter of power but ambition. He would always go 200 per cent at everything. Sometimes he made mistakes, but he was a kid. His family, especially his father, loves football. He loves him and paid him a lot of attention. Most training sessions, he showed up. Every game. He never said anything to the coaches or the club, respected every decision we made. He (Buendia’s father) also gave a good education to Emi. He got him to think of reasons why he wouldn’t be playing, to learn from it and change it.
“But Emi was really brave, even when he was promoted to the first team. He would kick the veteran players with everything and understood he’d get kicked even harder back! He would never complain; only respect it and keep going. That was the best thing.”
Buendia’s next appearance for Franco turned out to be his second in La Liga, against Villarreal. Sanchez Flores walked out after just 21 days back at Getafe. By April, Franco was interim first-team manager and Buendia made his first senior start in special circumstances: against Barcelona in the Nou Camp.
Buendia’s compatriot and one of his idols, Lionel Messi, scored twice that day. Another, Javier Mascherano, was an unused substitute. Buendia left the stadium with both players’ shirts. Xavi, Neymar and Luis Suarez (twice) completed Getafe’s 6-0 defeat.
“Only once in my life have I seen Emi’s face show fear,” says Franco. “He was closer to a loose ball than his opponent, right in front of me. We were certain Emi would get the ball, then suddenly, we were looking at each other going, ‘Where is it? Where’s the other guy? What happened?’ Emi’s face was like he had seen a ghost.”
Rather, it was a close encounter of the Messi kind.
Buendia made one more substitute appearance under Franco. Getafe survived their tax issues and relegation scare but the Spaniard was a casualty come the summer.
With the second half waiting on the Nou Camp pitch, Messi had a question for Buendia. He had to come closer for Buendia to hear him over the crowd. He asked if Humberto had called him.
“Humberto” was Humberto Grondona, Argentina Under-20s head coach. Buendia happened to be a Spain Under-19s international at the time. He wasn’t sure how to answer.
Seven months earlier, Buendia’s emergence for Getafe B prompted Spain’s scouts to invite him to train with their under-19s during their 2015 European Championship preparations. Buendia had been granted Spanish citizenship earlier in the year. By the November, he had played twice for his adopted country in a friendly tournament in Greece.
The fear of losing Buendia to Spain permanently stirred the Argentine Football Association (AFA) into action. Grondona was preparing for the Under-20s World Cup in New Zealand that summer and travelled to Madrid in mid-April. Buendia played the final seven minutes against Villarreal. The pair had dinner together that evening.
By the time Buendia was facing Barcelona, there was already a call-up letter waiting for him from the AFA. The only thing faster than Buendia’s acceptance was his resignation from Spain’s summer preparations.
“He was an Argentine guy with a very Argentine family. He loves asados (a traditional Argentine barbeque), he loves Argentine football and he loves Messi, so when the national team called, he couldn’t continue playing for Spain,” says Franco. “Playing for Spain may have been an easier way, but he chose the more emotional way. It was pure love.”
Despite being six-time Under-20 World Cup winners, Argentina failed to win a group game in New Zealand — including a shock 3-2 loss to Ghana — and were eliminated. However, Buendia’s individual reviews were encouraging. He finished the summer with five appearances and two goals for his country.
While Buendia’s dream remains to play for Argentina at senior level and there were hopes playing in the Premier League could prompt a call-up last season, he has not made an international appearance since.
He didn’t know it, but life had already peaked for Buendia at Getafe.
The attacking midfielder was in and out of Fran Escriba’s side in the 2015-16 season. Another 6-0 defeat at the Nou Camp came in a run of four games where he was deployed at right-back. His first senior goal — a cute near-post finish after breaking free from inside his own half in a 3-0 home La Liga win over Levante in the September — felt a long time ago.
With six games of the season to play and having gone 12 without victory, Escriba was fired and replaced by the man who had brought Buendia to Spain: Esnaider.
There was no happy ending, though. Getafe’s relegation was confirmed by a 2-1 final-day defeat at Real Betis. They were already losing when Buendia was introduced on the hour. He lasted 19 minutes.
Betis doubled their lead three minutes before Buendia’s rash kick at Dani Ceballos earned a straight red card. Alvaro Medran’s late goal was barely a consolation. Coincidentally, on-loan Norwich striker Ricky van Wolfswinkel, the club’s record signing at the time, was an unused substitute for Betis that day.
Getafe dropped to the Segunda Division for the first time in 12 years. Buendia signed a new five-year contract that summer but an ankle injury prevented him ever playing for Esnaider again. By October, it was Jose Bordalas in charge, with former Liverpool forward and Norwich loanee Dani Pacheco among those keeping Buendia out of the team.
Bordalas returned Getafe to La Liga at the first attempt, finishing eighth in the top flight the following season. But all too often, Buendia was not involved. Come 2017-18, it became clear his future — temporarily at least — would lie elsewhere.
“I can’t help feeling Emi was like a son to Juan,” adds Castro. “Sometimes, you don’t get many chances. In the top division, all the players have got quality and the coach has less time to build up young players.
“Emi could run better than us all but the football IQ and tactical quality comes during your career. The important players at Getafe at the time would say when Emi gets the IQ and adds that to his running and quality, it would be amazing. It’s clear it’s happened now.”
The speculation had started in January 2017. Out of favour at Getafe, English tabloid newspapers were carrying Buendia’s name, Swansea’s interest and tales of a potential loan to put the Argentinian in a bigger shop window. That move did not happen and by the summer, Swansea were distancing themselves from continued links.
More likely was a Segunda Division loan and there was plenty of interest there, led by Cultural Leonesa: a traditional club in north west Spain adjusting to life under the Qatari ownership of Aspire Academy, who also had links to Leeds United and Belgian top-flight outfit KAS Eupen.
They were also embarking on their first second-tier campaign for 43 years.
Buendia’s signing had been prepared for weeks; hard to get done and laden with fears of a late collapse. The chance for him to take a leading role on the pitch proved decisive.
“He seemed like a normal boy but with a naughty face. He had the inspiration of street football,” Cultural’s press chief at the time, German Romo, tells The Athletic.
Buendia scored one goal and made six more in his first 10 league appearances in a fast start. Against better sides, Leonesa came unstuck but manager Ruben de la Barrera still had a team that could trouble most of the division.
A 4-4 draw at home to neighbours Real Valladolid saw Buendia produce a breakthrough performance. Another came in the February, at home to the club who would go on to win the title.
“We were losing 2-0 to Rayo Vallecano,” De la Barrera tells The Athletic, whose half-time changes that day included Buendia’s introduction. “Emi’s performance was incredible. A team full of experienced players from the Primera Division were unable to stop him. When he was really ‘plugged-in’ and we were able to get him involved, the kid showed incredible personality. He made us play. He could do everything.”
Buendia equalised on the hour mark but Rayo went on to win, 3-2. Much like Leonesa’s season, he could only do so much.
“He was very clear why La Cultural was his best option at that moment,” adds De la Berrera. “He listened to you, although, as a coach, he made me work on my communication to make sure I reached him.
“He is a very competitive person, who wants to improve. All that is not easy to manage, for sure. The objective was to accompany him along the way, let him see what Emi needed to be for the team.
“I remember one chat after training more than any other. Emi sometimes was not capable of using his personality as the moment or team required. It drove him to behaviour some team-mates wouldn’t understand. This day, things had not gone well for him at training and I told him when he feels far from being able to achieve what he wants to, he needed to not show his anger to everyone and it not affect his performance.
“That is what can make the difference from being a player with a lot of potential to a real player. Both he and I left that conversation convinced he would be able to manage these moments better in future.”
Buendia was settled and comfortable at Leonesa. When the team got together for a meal, he was the one taking charge of the asados: “He was the chief of the kitchen. He loved it. In that moment, Emi was also an important member of the team,” says Romo.
But it wasn’t all plain sailing.
The day before Leonesa were due to host fellow relegation candidates Lorca in the January, training finished with Buendia winding up team-mate Yelko Pino, an infrequently-used midfielder who was on loan from divisional rivals Lugo.
Tired and fed up of being filmed by Buendia, Pino launched into a series of expletives directed at his current club with the aim of making Buendia delete the footage and stop bugging him. In that moment, De la Barrera walked into the dressing room to address his group. In the rush to hide his phone — they were banned whenever the manager was in the room — instead of deleting the video, Buendia published it to his Instagram Story.
Only after De la Barrera had finished speaking about 15 minutes later did the two players realise what had happened. Their faces “turned absolutely white”. The video was deleted but by then it was too late.
“I was at the office and my mobile started to explode,” Romo tells The Athletic. “Messages, notifications. There were messages saying, ‘Yelko Pino, go home’. Lots of bad words in Spanish! When I saw Yelko, he was saying, ‘Oh my god, fuck me, my life!’ In that moment, you want to disappear from the world.
“A lot of journalists were calling. I was asking and hoping they would play it down but, of course, they said, ‘No chance. It is gold for us!’ Both players issued statements apologising to supporters. Maybe young fans could understand this type of situation but older fans, media and the football world, it wasn’t easy to explain how one of our players could say those words in a video that was published. It had consequences.”
Pino’s loan was cancelled. His career has since dropped down the Spanish divisions while Buendia was expelled from Leonesa’s squad the following night and only made the bench for the next game at Osasuna.
Joking about the incident is still beyond some of the pair’s former Cultural team-mates and while Buendia still follows Pino on Instagram, Pino doesn’t appear to be returning the favour.
The media began to link Buendia with a permanent move from Getafe to another Aspire-linked club, Leeds. What no one realised was Norwich’s recruitment team had already gone into overdrive. They even got someone to make the arduous 1,000-mile trip over from Norwich, just to watch their target live at a freezing Estadio Reino de Leon.
The game was against Lorca. The wasted journey, and reason for it, were noted.
Just two months into the 2017-18 season, Norwich’s recruitment and scouting teams were busy watching videos of games, writing reports on potential players to target, and analysing standout statistics in various foreign leagues.
When asked aloud by head of recruitment Kieran Scott if there was anyone the club could be accused of missing, the response came back: Emi Buendia. The attacking midfielder was producing eye-catching moments and statistics in Leon. It had Norwich excited and their eyes and the data were saying the same thing.
By the following morning, Scott agreed and he was stood in front of sporting director Stuart Webber, desperate to convince him, too. Five minutes into watching his clips, Webber was puffing out his cheeks. “And you think we can get him?!”
Norwich were watching Buendia live by the time December arrived, despite the potential for games being called off and moved at short notice. Plenty of Spanish scouts were in attendance too, but never one representing another English club.
The reports had consistent highlights: vision, movement (always moving), good finishing technique, and a player who appeared to need adversity — people to doubt him — for him to reply with his football.
Also highlighted was his need to do better defensively. At the same time, Norwich felt Buendia looked “a little heavy” but that with strength and conditioning work at Colney, they could improve his fitness significantly to deliver that higher work-rate. The bigger question was whether he would have that drive in him.
Buendia was seen as petulant and tempestuous, although that could also be construed as an “edge”. Factor in Norwich’s faith in Farke’s coaching abilities and not only did they like what they had seen, but they also felt there was another 20 per cent of performance in there they could extract. Ask them now and they’d say they have got far more than an extra 20 per cent.
The perception of Buendia off the pitch was not ideal, either. They viewed the video incident as nothing more than silly (taking place during their negotiations with parent club Getafe, it may have even helped Norwich out) and those who knew him knew of his discipline and ambition. Having met his girlfriend Claudia in 2016, the pair had also just discovered they were expecting their first child the following August.
Ultimately, Norwich saw Buendia making vital contributions at vital times in a relatively poor side. They loved that.
There was also no hiding the risk. There were “a million reasons to say no” in the middle of a recruitment period where Scott and his team knew they were proposing targets who weren’t always the easiest for Webber to back.
The timing was relatively good. Alex Pritchard got the Premier League move he demanded when Huddersfield called with £10 million in January 2018, money that went straight into filling the forthcoming summer loss of parachute payments. Webber scraped together funds that January to borrow Moritz Leitner and buy Onel Hernandez and Dennis Srbeny, as well as sign Kenny McLean and loan him back to Aberdeen until the summer.
Norwich tentatively asked Webber’s initial question over whether they could get Buendia as well, and got encouraging answers. The player was interested in the move, Getafe were open to a deal and notably, they needed to raise some money. Selling an academy product not involved in their first team or fancied by the current manager would be a useful cash injection.
Convinced waiting until the summer window would see Buendia catch more eyes and his price climb beyond what they could afford, Norwich wanted to move quickly. They already assumed Leeds knew of the Argentinian, given Aspire’s links, and Swansea’s name wouldn’t go away, while Southampton and Liverpool had both been monitoring his progress.
Webber was soon in Madrid to meet Getafe but after a day of difficult talks, he left with no agreement. The atmosphere wasn’t helped by his hosts wrongly assuming Norwich’s sporting director could not understand their subtle conversations in Spanish.
A few days later and seemingly afraid Norwich would walk away, Getafe were back in touch and keen to restart negotiations. Norwich made it clear they would not see their time wasted. Their next meeting saw a deal swiftly struck.
At an airport hotel on the outskirts of Madrid, the conversations with Buendia and his representatives were easier. Although he could not speak English, he still managed to express “a look on his face and sparkle in his eye that he wanted to come to England and prove himself”.
Norwich told Buendia there and then that he would be left to spend the rest of the season at Leonesa. While convention would assume it would be better to bring Buendia to England as soon as possible to give him time to settle, Norwich preferred the idea of him arriving in Norfolk as a summer signing after a successful season, and with all the freshness it can provide during a pre-season. They certainly didn’t view Buendia as the sort of player who could be plucked out of Spain mid-season and thrown into the Championship.
Even Farke — who was struggling to make headway on the pitch, angry at losing Pritchard and now being left to wait for his replacement — was willing to be patient.
It meant Leonesa were kept out of the negotiations. Ending Buendia’s loan early would have required their agreement and them receiving financial compensation. That mattered to Norwich, who were desperate to keep their new signing under wraps until he had passed his summer medical.
A pre-contract obligation to buy Buendia for £1.5 million in the summer was signed. The four-year deal would start following his medical, providing Buendia had no serious injury concerns for the rest of the season.
No one whispered a word.
Leonesa hated the idea of losing Buendia halfway through his loan but had no reason to believe it would happen. They were entirely unaware of Norwich’s agreement. That included the rest of their squad, emphasising how private Buendia is as a person; a man regularly described as happy in his own company.
Leonesa also routinely ignored any speculation linking Leeds with their players, as was the case that January. Whether Leeds missed a trick is up for debate. Spanish forward Samuel Saiz was already catching the eye at Elland Road, with Leeds having signed him from Huesca. Spaniard Victor Orta had joined Leeds as their director of football in May 2017 and inherited the link with Leonesa, set up by former director Ivan Bravo.
Dutch midfielder Ouasim Bouy moved to Leon on loan for the 2017-18 season, having signed for Leeds on a free transfer from Juventus that summer. Come the January, Japanese midfielder Yosuke Ideguchi had also signed for Leeds. He joined Leonesa on loan the same day.
Buendia is a player Orta has always liked but Leeds made no move to sign him that season. Thomas Christiansen’s reign as manager was unravelling by the start of 2018 and was over come the February. Paul Heckingbottom’s time in charge was even shorter and when the summer arrived, everything was paving the way for Marcelo Bielsa’s arrival.
Also, although Buendia was playing at Leonesa, he was Getafe’s player – and Norwich had already made that move.
It was Norwich’s dirty secret. Even when some knew of the move and felt brave enough to bring it up, the tight Norwich circle would deny it.
“What are you doing that for? He’s a fat kid with a poor attitude. He’ll struggle in England.” The line of questioning in Spain was far from subtle.
Not that Norwich didn’t wonder what they were letting themselves in for.
A second titanic derby with Real Valladolid came in early February with a 3-2 away defeat and Buendia accused of spitting at Real winger Javier Ontiveros. Buendia escaped sanction but not public criticism, especially just three weeks after missing the Lorca game.
The following match was a trip to Huesca. Buendia was poor, giving the ball away from a corner that led to the only goal. He was substituted five minutes later, his arms flying in the air in disgust. When he reached the dugout, a water bottle went flying.
But as the season wore on, Buendia hit new heights as he was treated like a Norwich player out on loan: watched regularly by their loans manager Neil Adams and anyone else prepared to travel to Spain. By April, in a chance meeting between representatives of the two clubs, it was made clear Getafe were beginning to regret their decision to sell in January and that Norwich had done well to catch them in a bad moment.
Despite Buendia’s best efforts, Leonesa were relegated on the final day of the season. The Argentinian finished with the supporters voting him their player of the season. Everyone at Leonesa went their separate ways. It was only once confirmed the following month by Norwich that the Spanish club finally learned of Buendia’s move to England.
Rumours of a La Liga signing swirled around Norfolk for months but Buendia’s name only emerged on June 6: two days before Norwich’s announcement.
It was this reporter who first revealed the name, too, although this is far from self-congratulatory. Despite spending hours searching for potential attacking midfielders in Spain, it never occurred to look as far down as the Segunda Division relegation zone.
Buendia arrived in Norfolk more fresh-faced than naughty. His first season, Norwich won the Championship. Promotion earned Getafe a €5 million bonus and Buendia a new five-year contract.
Since then, Atletico Madrid (last April), Valencia (in July, as Ferran Torres’ replacement) and this month, Arsenal, have led a fresh list of clubs tempted by Buendia’s excellence — but for whatever reason, ventured no further.
Some were stunned Norwich pulled off a signing like Buendia in the first place. Argentinian bloggers viewed his move a surprise.
“We wanted a guy who can score and assist,” said Farke at the time of his arrival. “Emi is the perfect fit for our squad. We’ve followed him for several months and we were always desperate to sign him.”
With that, Buendia captured Norwich hearts, earned the nickname “Football Heaven” and the rest is history — one Norwich City fans can delight in the fact it is still being written.
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Why would Grealish join Arsenal? Why? Hubristic, pompous, entitled wankpots.
I can't fathom how any of them can believe he's an arsenal fan who's always dreamt of playing for them.
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Ticks alot of bosses.
Young, scores goals, creates chances could be a very shrewd signing.
If he can break into that Argentina squad as well his value will only go up.
Cant see us going for tammy now. This will be our biggest signing of the summer
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
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Excellent! Assuming the reports that he has already passed a medical in Argentina means it's in the bag. Definite upgrade on Trez/Barkley. Moving forward!
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
because we used that money to buy McGinn.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Well hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
because we used that money to buy McGinn.
I see the experts are oot in force ageen, wor let me tell ya. I didnae go for Buendia because I truly believed that once Henri got fit, he could be that player for us.
Then I got sacked.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
What when Xia was running the show?
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The arrival of NSWE and us pulling our shit together on and off the pitch has co-incided with quite a level of 'hatred' from some random clubs. I fucking love it.
Wolves, Brizzle, Naawich. We're shite club kryptonite.
Long may it continue. But I'll be even happier when the likes of Yanited and the Redscouse hate us again.
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The arrival of NSWE and us pulling our shit together on and off the pitch has co-incided with quite a level of 'hatred' from some random clubs. I fucking love it.
Wolves, Brizzle, Naawich. We're shite club kryptonite.
Long may it continue. But I'll be even happier when the likes of Yanited and the Redscouse hate us again.
Well we've absolutely traumatised Arsenal in the last 12 months, on and off the pitch, so we're getting there.
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To be fair to the Norwich fans you can see their point with the "wtf has he gone to villa" stuff. They haven't been paying attention to us. Why would they? All they see is a club that got relegated, came back up, barely survived, and finished mid-table. You would look at Arsenal as the bigger pull unless you're aware of the nuances both Villa and Arsenal fans are aware of . i.e. that we're on the way up, and Arsenal are at best stagnating, and at worse out of the game.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
What when Xia was running the show?
i wonder what cryptic emojis Tone would have come up with
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... the journalist Miguel Delaney apparently thinks Jack to Citeh is happening...
David Maddox seems to be well connected when it comes to the Scouse clubs. Oliver Kay seems to have decent contacts at the Manc lot. Despite Newcastle managers largely hating him Simon Bird knows what goes on up there...usually quicker than the managers do. And John Percy obviously has the inside track at VP.
Can't say I've ever followed his musings closely but Miguel Delaney strikes me more as a blog writer. No great insight or contacts. Just self indulgent twaddle about the top 4.
I do recall him @ing the writers of Father Ted when he started a 'Look at me!' twitter thread about how Father Ted was rubbish after the second series. That went well.
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I'm suspicious of anyone with a name that is clearly from a regenerated player on Championship Manager.
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I'm suspicious of anyone with a name that is clearly from a regenerated player on Championship Manager.
Ha! Or a youth player on PES.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.
Kante was £5.5m. Still an absolute bargain, which means they got Kante, Mahrez and Vardy for c. £7m, or just over half a Ross McCormack.
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I wonder if Bielsa would love to have our two Argentinians at Leeds.
From The Athletic article, it seems his passionate character comes out in his football and that he needs to be loved. Norwich should be happy, we're giving them the equivalent of a relegation parachute payment. As with Brentford, we are funding their future.
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I have a feeling that if he can prevent himself getting sent off too many times, he'll be good for us.
And both Norwich & Arsenal fans seem to think we are going down next season, maybe what nearly happened 2 season ago, and they thought we all overachieved this year. Pardon? They don't seem to think Leeds didn't overachieve. It's a funny old game isn't it. 😃🤣
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.
Kante was £5.5m. Still an absolute bargain, which means they got Kante, Mahrez and Vardy for c. £7m, or just over half a Ross McCormack.
Konsa £2.5m, McGinn £2.75m. Not too shabby, those cheap investments.
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Half a Ross McCormack is still massive.
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It'd fit through a gate, though.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
Because we were still a bit of a joke.
very true - imagine if we'd have picked up Kante and Mahrez for the combined £3.57 Leicester paid for them. Hopefully we've learned a few lessons over the years.
Kante was £5.5m. Still an absolute bargain, which means they got Kante, Mahrez and Vardy for c. £7m, or just over half a Ross McCormack.
Konsa £2.5m, McGinn £2.75m. Not too shabby, those cheap investments.
Konsa was 12.5 mil
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*books optician's appointment*
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Still looks fantastic value, though.
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Good signing.
But why did we not get him for £1m 3 years ago?
The same reason nobody but the bitters bought Pereira or why in a years time they will be saying how did Villa get Konsa for £12m. It is amazing though what great scouting allows you to do, and the system a player fits into allows them to fail or succeed coupled with attitude. Players like Buendia clearly has a lot of determination.
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Konsa has the potential to be the next rio ferdinand no doubt at all in my mind and the price we paid was a snip. If we were to sell konsa at the end of next season after another great season and he would be 60 million plus.
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Robbie from Arsenal Fan TV was crying into his cornflakes this morning, saying it was embarrassing that Villa outbid Arsenal. All very amusing.
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Robbie from Arsenal Fan TV was crying into his cornflakes this morning, saying it was embarrassing that Villa outbid Arsenal. All very amusing.
They couldn’t afford Buendia but ThEY aRe BuYInG GrEaliSh for £100m more. Bell ends
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Let’s hope he is not coming in to replace Jack.
He's not.
He wouldn't turn down Arsenal for us if he thought Jack might go.
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Robbie from Arsenal Fan TV was crying into his cornflakes this morning, saying it was embarrassing that Villa outbid Arsenal. All very amusing.
Once club on the way up, the other on the way down....
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It startles me that a few posters on the PinkUn site think Norwich and Villa are somehow equal in stature. I had to check their honours list to see where that sense of self-belief comes from. Having looked I'm still not sure. I imagine it's because we're so distant, they probably rarely hear about us, and if they ever do, we have been dire for about ten years. An eye opener for me though.
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Did they not learn from Prince William and George rubbing it in their faces at Carrow Road when we hammered them last season how different our stature is ?
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I have a feeling that if he can prevent himself getting sent off too many times, he'll be good for us.
And both Norwich & Arsenal fans seem to think we are going down next season, maybe what nearly happened 2 season ago, and they thought we all overachieved this year. Pardon? They don't seem to think Leeds didn't overachieve. It's a funny old game isn't it. 😃🤣
That is because the Premier League is so fortunate to have Leeds and Bielsa. Looking back it is amazing how the Premier League survived all of those years without Leeds.
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They probably see it as we were in the Championship together, came up together 2 years ago, and we just survived whereas they went back down. In that sense, yeah, it could easily have been the other way around.
What seems to have gone over their heads is that doing that is normal for them, even represents some level of success, whereas for us it's an aberration and represents the club's worst period in nearly 50 years, and quite possibly (not checked this) our 2nd or 3rd longest spell outside the top division.
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Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.
Women eh? :o
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Konsa has the potential to be the next rio ferdinand no doubt at all in my mind and the price we paid was a snip. If we were to sell konsa at the end of next season after another great season and he would be 60 million plus.
But the days are gone anyway 😊
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Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.
Women eh? :o
She probably realises that he's not going to be our record signing for long.
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They probably see it as we were in the Championship together, came up together 2 years ago, and we just survived whereas they went back down. In that sense, yeah, it could easily have been the other way around.
What seems to have gone over their heads is that doing that is normal for them, even represents some level of success, whereas for us it's an aberration and represents the club's worst period in nearly 50 years, and quite possibly (not checked this) our 2nd or 3rd longest spell outside the top division.
Second longest, and only time we've spent three seasons outside the top division other than the '67/'75 period. Other than these two periods of tumultuous upheaval, we've only ever spent another four seasons out of the top flight.
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Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.
Women eh? :o
I did this too, with exactly the same result.
Don't know why we bother, mate!
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Obviously not done yet, but this would feel like something’s changed. Head to head with Arsenal for an exciting young Argentinian international, and we won / he chose us. Can’t remember that much at Villa and I’m no spring chicken!
It’s great business. That’s what real proven ambition gets you. Let’s have more of this
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Earlier today I was telling my wife about our new record signing but she didn't seem to share my excitement.
Women eh? :o
Did you tell her he's a handsome Latino with muscular leg's? You know, the important stuff ;)
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
Dave Angel Eco Warrior. I now have an earworm of Mike Oldfield's Moonlight Shadow so thanks for that.
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Gone quiet for something that was meant to be done within 24 hours.....
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Has anybody ever announced a transfer on a Sunday? It'll be done, no drama.
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Darren Bent was a Sunday wasn’t it.
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Tomi Angél í think. Jpa posted some videos of him when younger. Seemed a real talent
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Tomi Angél í think. Jpa posted some videos of him when younger. Seemed a real talent
I just looked up his son, to see if he was born in Brum. He wasn't, even though JPA was a Villa player at the time of his birth (Feb 2003).
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Gone quiet for something that was meant to be done within 24 hours.....
The transfer window doesn't open til Wednesday, so I'd imagine nothing can be officially announced before then.
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It'll be finalized no worries.
But until I see the traditional photo of him holding the Villa shirt, I'm not certain of anything.
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
Nigel Angel not Dave.
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Gone quiet for something that was meant to be done within 24 hours.....
The transfer window doesn't open til Wednesday, so I'd imagine nothing can be officially announced before then.
It can, you just can’t officially join before then.
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Robbie fdom AFTV to be fair acknowledges that we have a better midfield than them.
I think the embarrassing thing for them is that we were playing jn the championship 2 yeara ago and now within a couple years we are on their level and beating them to players.
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My wife was extremely enthused about the Juan Pablo Angel signing when he was dragged out at half time during the Liverpool game. Mind you, I was equally impressed with Savo's missus who was a real stunner.
Apparently he has a son who is a footballer don’t think he’s much more than a teenager but I think I remember reading he’s signed for someone or other
Dave Angel.
Nigel Angel not Dave.
I'm walking away from this nonsense.
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Well Villa have sort of announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
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Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
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And so have Norwich
Norwich City can confirm that a club record deal has been agreed with Aston Villa for the transfer of Emi Buendia.
Buendia will complete his final medical checks following the conclusion of Argentina’s World Cup qualifying fixture against Colombia on Tuesday evening.
Final confirmation of the transfer will follow upon completion of the player’s medical.
https://www.canaries.co.uk/News/2021/june/buendia-transfer-deal-agreed/
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I hope the bloke who did Micah Richards medical is off the payroll
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I hope the bloke who did Micah Richards medical is off the payroll
He should be off the medical register as well
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Pretty bloody excited by this. Just my kind of player. 🙂
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That is a weird thing for both official sites to post.
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Both been told to announce it by the Samiritans to put Arsenal fans out of their misery.
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Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
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Come on Lew, live a little!
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Yes, let's have a bit of confidence here!
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Super excited about this one. He was in my 'list' for this summer
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Villa Lew seriously? :D
I'm 51 and dancing round like a little kid ;D
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I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
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Oh Buendia
Here he goes again
My my
How can he assist you
Welcome.
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I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
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Last season's stats.....
3rd - Combined goals & assists
4th - Shots per game
1st - Big chances created
1st - Key passes per game
6th - Successful dribbles per game
4th - Penalties won
1st - Through balls per game
7th - Tackles per game
That last stat is the most telling. A creative player who isn't afraid to get stuck in. You can see him, Watkins and McGinn just harassing the opposition high up the pitch, and winning those challenges. There's a high press and a high press.....
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I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
Even if you didn't watch the Championship last season, can't you remember him in our promotion season and in the PL with Norwich? He's an excellent player and with him and Jack teams aren't going to know what to do. They'll certainly have to think twice before doubling up on Jack now.
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I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
Even if you didn't watch the Championship last season, can't you remember him in our promotion season and in the PL with Norwich? He's an excellent player and with him and Jack teams aren't going to know what to do. They'll certainly have to think twice before doubling up on Jack now.
I only went to see the Villa. Went to see the Viiiiiiiilla.
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Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
Still scarred by Joe Bryant?
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Last season's stats.....
3rd - Combined goals & assists
4th - Shots per game
1st - Big chances created
1st - Key passes per game
6th - Successful dribbles per game
4th - Penalties won
1st - Through balls per game
7th - Tackles per game
That last stat is the most telling. A creative player who isn't afraid to get stuck in. You can see him, Watkins and McGinn just harassing the opposition high up the pitch, and winning those challenges. There's a high press and a high press.....
Looking forward to the Sky stats showing 80% of the action in the opposition third of the pitch! Martinez is going to need a picnic blanket and a thermos.
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Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
Bloody hell Lew, did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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Buendia and Grealish Heatmaps.....
*edit as got them the wrong way round.
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Grealish and Buendia Heatmaps.....
Perfect, absolutely perfect. God I hope Jack stays, because if he does we're going to absolutely twat some bastards next year.
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Look at how much work Buendia does defensively. It will help Matty Cash tremendously who also likes to pop forward into attack on occasion knowing he has cover. Oh and some bloke called Konsa is on that side too…
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Fucking hell, how big is his cock?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2u7yLiVcAoZ2ZR?format=jpg&name=small)
Going back to this, my mate told me yesterday to look at the colours on the table.
They knew alright.
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Going back to this, my mate told me yesterday to look at the colours on the table.
They knew alright.
Could have been off to Barcelona (if they could afford him). ;)
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I hadn’t previously seen this video montage of him but it’s really excellent. Superb two footed player who works hard wherever he is on the pitch.
https://twitter.com/super6/status/1401838609897082880?s=21
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Fucking hell, how big is his cock?
Ha!
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Buendia and Grealish Heatmaps.....
*edit as got them the wrong way round.
First one is a bloke sat in a chair with his feet up watching TV, either shaking his fist or...ahem....enjoying himself
Second one is is someone giving the thumbs down whilst simultaneously punching a floating loaf of bread
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That picture always reminds me of the father ted sketch. Had no idea he was a borderline Alan Wright.
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My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
Hang on a minute. Half of the "Big 6" don't get close to us on points gained in the top flight of English football, so for most of our history we've completed at a level above them.
What Norwich fans don't realise is those three seasons in the Championship, two of which resulted in a play off final and one of those in promotion, represents one of the worst periods in our entire history.
Any one of those seasons would've been a good season by Norwich's standards!
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I have no idea who Buendia is. Why was he playing for the Canaries? Is he any good?
I asked the same question last week. I then saw a YouTube video of him looking all silky and I converted instantly to his cause. It was a good day.
Same here. What I liked as well as his obvious skills was his tenacity and determination.
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(https://i.ibb.co/djbLy06/20210607-122045.png) (https://ibb.co/djbLy06)
(https://i.ibb.co/1QBhKQm/20210607-122042.png) (https://ibb.co/1QBhKQm)
Buendia and Grealish Heatmaps.....
*edit as got them the wrong way round.
First one is a bloke sat in a chair with his feet up watching TV, either shaking his fist or...ahem....enjoying himself
Second one is is someone giving the thumbs down whilst simultaneously punching a floating loaf of bread
I only saw boobs initially. First girl, blonde the second a red head.
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I'm not sure it was meant as a Rorschach test but psychologists would have a field day.
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I hadn’t previously seen this video montage of him but it’s really excellent. Superb two footed player who works hard wherever he is on the pitch.
https://twitter.com/super6/status/1401838609897082880?s=21
He's brilliant TV thanks for posting that.
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My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
Hang on a minute. Half of the "Big 6" don't get close to us on points gained in the top flight of English football, so for most of our history we've completed at a level above them.
What Norwich fans don't realise is those three seasons in the Championship, two of which resulted in a play off final and one of those in promotion, represents one of the worst periods in our entire history.
Any one of those seasons would've been a good season by Norwich's standards!
We're above them in the established order of things and I'm sure a lot of them recognise that but we can hardly expect them to be happy about it.
They were also demonstrably a better team than us as recently as 18/19 so I can understand a certain rueful bitterness from them. Not that I particularly care about the carrot crunching yokels.
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Absolutely buzzing with this signing. The best thing I've liked about him over the last few years is how positive he is. It's no surprise to see how high he ranks on through balls and progressive passes, he always seemed to be looking forward at the first opportunity and trying to make things happen. Can't wait for next season already.
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Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
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Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
3 years ago we'd just fought off administration for an unpaid tax bill.
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My God, just about every thread on that Norwich forum is about this transfer. It's like we've unpedestrianised the city centre.
I imagine a lot of the posters are kids as there is clearly a lack of knowledge on our size and history. I suppose to be fair we have been a sit sleeping giant for 10 years now and there will be a generation that just doesn’t know that we have always competed with the big 6, just not lately
Hang on a minute. Half of the "Big 6" don't get close to us on points gained in the top flight of English football, so for most of our history we've completed at a level above them.
What Norwich fans don't realise is those three seasons in the Championship, two of which resulted in a play off final and one of those in promotion, represents one of the worst periods in our entire history.
Any one of those seasons would've been a good season by Norwich's standards!
You’re right, even I have forgotten!
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Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency..........
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Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
3 years ago we'd just fought off administration for an unpaid tax bill.
3 years ago the players were drawing lots to see who would turn off the lights. What a transformation!
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Well Villa have sort off announced it
Aston Villa and Norwich City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Emiliano Buendia.
As Emiliano is currently in the Argentina national team’s biosecure bubble, preparing for a World Cup qualifying match with Colombia on Tuesday evening, he will undergo a medical and complete the transfer after the game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-reach-agreement-for-Buendia/
Excellent
It's not excellent he's still to pass a medical, it's excellent, when he passes the medical and signs the dotted line, until that happens let's not get too excited.
Bloody hell Lew, did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
I apologise Jwarry I didn't mean to rude.
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Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
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Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
I hope not, he was shite for Citeh.
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Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
I hope not, he was shite for Citeh.
Back then they massively overspent on a player who did not want to go there. He couldn't wait to get out.
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Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
Absolutely. Dean spoke last week about how 'strategic' our owners are and from what I've heard about the deal they really understood how to get the business done where everybody ends up happy. There's a clip of an Arsenal fan complaining how his board after chasing Buendia for over 12 months couldn't match us for efficiency. Long may it continue!
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Promotion a season early was massive but on reflection that point at West Ham was even bigger. Think of how far back we would be had we gone down that day.
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Really think this guy could be our “Robinho” signing.
I hope not, he was shite for Citeh.
I mean in the context of attracting next level players. I didn’t put it very well 😊
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You did Rich. It just wasn’t understood or chose to have the piss taken out of it.
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there’s a good article on the athletic about ‘what Norwich miss when Buendia does not play’. Surprisingly it is his defensive qualities and high press that make him stand out. Southampton fans were also saying that a key part of JWP’s game is the high press. It all suggests that there an actual plan in action.
Watkins, an unshackled SJM and Buendia will give most defences a torrid time.
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Ruthless efficiency from the club on this one. I can't believe where we are now compared to three years ago, makes me wonder where we could be in another 3 years.
3 years ago we'd just fought off administration for an unpaid tax bill.
It's not that much further back when we'd have made this announcement just to shift a few more season tickets, and then watch him sign for someone else.
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8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
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8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
i wonder where he is now🤔
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Still wondering around the outskirts of Tanworth collecting balls from his shooting practice at Bodymoor.
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I remember watching his youtube compilation when he was linked with us and thinking fuck me we've got ourselves an unknown gem here. Poisonous stuff those youtube montages.
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I like the way that he seems to be comfortable shooting with both feet. That will be very difficult to defend against.
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8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
i wonder where he is now🤔
Last seen chasing a football near the moon
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8 years ago today we signed Tonev.
What, he’s chasing Tony Moon?
i wonder where he is now🤔
Last seen chasing a football near the moon
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Watched him in a friendly and he took corners with either foot.
Sounds impressive, but they were equally shite with each peg and still haven't landed.
Wasn't he racist too?
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Hope Buendia is as good as everyone on here says that he is - if not, then you all need to be sacked as this would prove you all would now nothing about what makes a good footballer!
I will reserve judgment until after 20 games for our great club.
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Why has this thread turned into a tonev discussion? He was a cheap punt that didn't work out and left pretty quickly 8 years (and 2 complete boardroom takeovers) ago and this is a thread about us signing an Argentinian playmaker for a club record fee.
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cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
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cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
Sincere condolences Mr U.
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cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
Sorry to hear that Mr U. Condolences to you and your friends family.
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thanks Andrew reminded everyone who knew him of how kind and decent people can be - a true gentleman in every sense and a fellow Villa supporter.
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Sorry for your loss Mr Underhill.
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cheer up Sid this isn't bad news - that's talking to a close friend on Sunday and discovering he'd died a day later, as I did this week.
Sorry for your loss Mr Underhill condolences to you and your friends family.
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Sorry for your loss.
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again, thank you .
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I hope it’s a 5 year deal not a 4 year.
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I hope it’s a 5 year deal not a 4 year.
Reports say it's 'til 2026.
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Columbia vs Argentina is on Premier Sports 1 HD at midnight I believe? Subscription channel though.
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He isn't in the squad tonight, so should be no unexpected delay in getting that medical done.
Martinez starts in goal, again.
In answer to the previous poster, it's on Premier Sports 1, a subscription channel which shows a few Scottish Premiership games and rugby matches. You can also watch for free if you have a recently used and/or currently funded Bet365 account, via their app.
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Sincere condolences Mr Underhill.
As for our Spice Boy, Emi B, great to read that he had his mind made up that Villa was the only club he was interested in joining; Norwich knew it, Arsenal were told it and once we'd made an acceptable offer Norwich closed the door to any other offers. I'm guessing Martinez was on the phone a few months back telling him he was our Number 1 target, etc.
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You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
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You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
'I didn't really want to go out with her anyway."
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You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
Reads like it's been written by a 10 year old.
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Jay Cartwright? "Emi Buendia? Completed him, mate".
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You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
I do prefer it to the "this club is finished Robbie" shouty nonsense on YouTube.
Arsenal have no European football next season and players like Smith-Rowe, Saka, Martinelli, Willock (back from Newcastle), Pepe, Aubemeyang and Lacazette to form a front six. Sign a solid central midfielder to play next to Partey and I think they'll have a decent season.
I enjoyed laughing at them because we got the player and they didn't, but I think the obituaries in some quarters are being written way too soon. They ended the season with five straight wins.
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You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
I do prefer it to the "this club is finished Robbie" shouty nonsense on YouTube.
Arsenal have no European football next season and players like Smith-Rowe, Saka, Martinelli, Willock (back from Newcastle), Pepe, Aubemeyang and Lacazette to form a front six. Sign a solid central midfielder to play next to Partey and I think they'll have a decent season.
I enjoyed laughing at them because we got the player and they didn't, but I think the obituaries in some quarters are being written way too soon. They ended the season with five straight wins.
Not only beaten to the best player in the championship they also seem to forget we took 6 points out of 6 against them this year including wiping the floor with them at the Emirates in an almost complete away performance
Deluded indeed
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There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
The article also said about how he had chosen us sometime ago by the sound of it and he never seemed interested in Arsenal.
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There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
Let's hope they're wrong. My guess is they're guessing.
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There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
Let's hope they're wrong. My guess is they're guessing.
Oh I don’t know. Jack, Bert and Emi behind Ollie sounds like a pretty mouth-watering front four if Bert plays to his potential.
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There was a piece in the Athletic today about how he's been bought to play the number 10 position. When you watch his highlight packages, he's not really the type to be hugging the touchline...a lot of his goals and assists, he did look to be starting in a central position.
The article also said about how he had chosen us sometime ago by the sound of it and he never seemed interested in Arsenal.
Obviously I have no idea what the plans are but from what I have read and the heat maps posted on here, last year he was mostly based on the right but cuts inside to do stuff-that-appears-on-youtube. Personally, I’d prefer an extra body in the midfield three (and unshackle McGinn at bit) before we go full 4231 because I don’t think we have the right players for the midfield two.
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Horses for courses.
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If we don’t sign another I would prefer Troare in the 10. He is accused of not really helping the full back so this would remove that duty and play to his strengths of skill and creativity. Jack on the left, Buendia on the right to help with the tracking back and of course do their thing going forward.
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You have to love the delusion.
https://www.justarsenal.com/forget-buendia-arsenal-have-bigger-fish-to-fry/284320
Reads like it's been written by a 10 year old.
So do the replies.
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I take it we are waiting until he's back and can pose for photos, etc, before confirming the deal. Will he have to isolate for two weeks or is he exempt as he's a sportsman? Not sure if exemptions apply out of season.
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If the Athletic piece was written by Gregg Evans, let's remember that we're dealing with a man who doesn't know how to spell Greg.
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If the Athletic piece was written by Gregg Evans, let's remember that we're dealing with a man who doesn't know how to spell Greg.
He was named after the bakery.
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I'm like that with the Labour party. I've long ago stopped expecting them to do well, but love it when the Tories get into bother. It was my dad who gave me no choice but to be a lefty too. I feel his pain.
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wrong thread
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
He’s a baggie
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I used to work with a Karen.
She pronounced it care-un.
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I used to work with a Karen.
She pronounced it care-un.
My sister in law used to work for Microsoft (in London). After working with so many yanks for so long, she started using their pronunciation of Moscow - "Moss cow"
She also told me that at Microsoft, people don't say 'google it' they actually say 'Bing it'.
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I have a Gregg mate. He’s not a Gregory, he’s just Gregg. He’s a nose and he’s a bit nuts but he’s sound is Gregg.
A nose that can't spell. That's got to be a first!
I liken it to Marc instead of Mark. It wasn’t his doing it was his parents but given that his Father was a nose too it’s a fair point. Gregg is actually a bit pissed off that his dad made him be a Blues fan. He’s at the stage now where he doesn’t care about Blues but supports Villa’s failures.
I used to work with a Karen.
She pronounced it care-un.
My sister in law used to work for Microsoft (in London). After working with so many yanks for so long, she started using their pronunciation of Moscow - "Moss cow"
She also told me that at Microsoft, people don't say 'google it' they actually say 'Bing it'.
I prefer Binge it, myself.
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I'd like to see the stretchy shirt photo now please. And the inane interview asking him how much he's looking forward to running out infront of the Holte End.
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mucho hombre
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I'd like to see the stretchy shirt photo now please. And the inane interview asking him how much he's looking forward to running out infront of the Holte End.
Yes, agree. The official club statement suggested that the medical would be done after the Colombia World Cup Qualifier, enabling the completion of the transfer??
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mucho hombre
Over Macho Grande?
I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.
UTV
The Doc
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I'd like to see the stretchy shirt photo now please. And the inane interview asking him how much he's looking forward to running out infront of the Holte End.
Yes, agree. The official club statement suggested that the medical would be done after the Colombia World Cup Qualifier, enabling the completion of the transfer??
Probably getting him flown back over and getting the photos/ It's been announced as complete by both clubs so it's a bit of a formality at this point anyway.
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It’s completed welcome Emi.
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It’s official. 5 year contract.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/Villa-confirm-club-record-Buendia-signing/
No shirt stretching so no doubt some may think Arsenal will still get him. Mostly Arsenal fans admittedly in a double swoop with Jack
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Welcome to Aston Villa Emi.
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Welcome. Be good.
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Welcome. You've got three games to prove yourself.
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Welcome officially Emi! Score lots of goals and set even more up please.
Thanks.
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Great news! Welcome Emi (number 2) !
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Since he’s been with us he’s done nothing so far
not writing him yet off but was expecting a bit more for 35 million quid to be honest
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Since he’s been with us he’s done nothing so far
not writing him yet off but was expecting a bit more for 35 million quid to be honest
What do you expect with Smith playing him out of position. Smith Out!
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:)
Villa Lew seriously? :D
I'm 51 and dancing round like a little kid ;D
I'm dancing round like a little kid now, well I would do if I didn't have a dodgy knee. Great signing Villa and welcome to a great club Emi. :)
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Welcome, delighted with this. Can't wait to see him at the Home of Football in front of 40,000 of us. 🙂
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Since he’s been with us he’s done nothing so far
not writing him yet off but was expecting a bit more for 35 million quid to be honest
What do you expect with Smith playing him out of position. Smith Out!
Another Johnny Foreigner who needs time to settle in no doubt. We will probably see him on the bench around November
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I've got a feeling this is going to be an excellent signing for us. I'm very pleased.
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I think he is going to be a great signing for us, welcome Emi, please don’t let us down
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We’ll be magic to watch next season.
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Welcome Emi, now do the business on the pitch.
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Chuffed brilliant signing
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Fantastic.
Smith mentioned he can play wide or as a number 10 too.
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Fucking brilliant. Looking forward to seeing this guy in action!
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Great news, I can't wait to see us line up with Jack, Ollie and Emi. We could be in for some really exciting football.
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I'm struggling to think of a Villa signing I've ever been so excited about. Jack on the left, Emi on the right, opposition sides won't know where to run and Ollie will love the massive increase in service.
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I know Emi brings so much in attack but what cannot be disregarded is his work off the ball and tackling. Such impressive stats and will bring so much value to us collectively.
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Welcome Emi - brilliant stuff.
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Welcome Emi. Our attack is going to be at warp speed. Can't wait. Utv.
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Welcome Emi, to the best football club in the World.
You will love it here.
We've been here for years and we're mad about it!
:D
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What a signing.
Welcome to the Villa Emi.
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Good days ahead Mr Goodday.
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Wide or Number 10.... Interesting...
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I've said it a few times now, but I hope that Bert is the 10.
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Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not then we are very fickle and will soon want you gone
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Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not then we are very fickle and will soon want you gone
And we’ll sign for Virgin.
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Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not then we are I am very fickle and will soon want you gone
Fixed
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Good luck EMI - be brilliant because if you are not then we are very fickle and will soon want you gone
And we’ll sign for Virgin.
'oo were that, then...PIL ?
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First words as a villa man.
https://video.avfc.co.uk/video/dm9kJTdDMF95ampnaGZndiU3QyUyRnNlY3Rpb24lM0ZzbHVnJTNEaG9tZSU3Q2hvbWUlMkZoZXJvX2Nhcm91c2Vs?lang=en
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Comes across very well. Good level of English. I thought from the Athletic article and some of the clips that he was a bit of a gobby imp (maybe it's the slight resemblance to Maupay) but smiley chap, seems humble and hard-working. Good looking chap too...maybe in yellow he just looks fierce and ugly.
He didn't name-check any of our players but I'm sure Matt Targett is big in Buenos Aires.
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Contrary to the usual Twitter noise about Buendia’s signing meaning Jack’s off I think it actually further reinforces him staying. Buendia has signed to play with Grealish not instead of him.
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Comes across very well. Good level of English. I thought from the Athletic article and some of the clips that he was a bit of a gobby imp (maybe it's the slight resemblance to Maupay) but smiley chap, seems humble and hard-working. Good looking chap too...maybe in yellow he just looks fierce and ugly.
He didn't name-check any of our players but I'm sure Matt Targett is big in Buenos Aires.
El Consistantico.
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We took to calling Targett "Maldini" last season. So he's definitely big in Milan.
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Contrary to the usual Twitter noise about Buendia’s signing meaning Jack’s off I think it actually further reinforces him staying. Buendia has signed to play with Grealish not instead of him.
That's my take, too. You'd imagine they are using Grealish specifically to sell the club to potential signings.
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Contrary to the usual Twitter noise about Buendia’s signing meaning Jack’s off I think it actually further reinforces him staying. Buendia has signed to play with Grealish not instead of him.
That's my take, too. You'd imagine they are using Grealish specifically to sell the club to potential signings.
And the sell gets easier with three England internationals, a Brazilian international, an Argentinian (may be 2) international, a Scottish international, Egypt international etc. The kids have just won the FA Cup, Villa are secure in the Premier League and have two of the most ambitious and richest owners. Looking very much on the up for Aston Villa.
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Two Brazilian internationals, Doug and Wes.
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https://twitter.com/em10buendia/status/1405190767363170311?s=21
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Cheers, nice message so started following him.
Wearing some of the mint green clobber that Adidas just released although I'd have gone for the navy shorts with mint green stripes. :)
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As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.
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As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.
Hope so. This is the most excited I've been about a signing for a long time - it just feels like a great fit to me.
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As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.
Hope so. This is the most excited I've been about a signing for a long time - it just feels like a great fit to me.
What’s his best position? from what I have read attacking right, but cuts inside.
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As long as we don't play him out of position I'm convinced he'll be a legend.
Hope so. This is the most excited I've been about a signing for a long time - it just feels like a great fit to me.
What’s his best position? from what I have read attacking right, but cuts inside.
I’d say that’s it, on the right hand side. A massive upgrade on Trez, although I do like Trez!
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Post & posts quoting or relating to exigo's made up nonsense removed.
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Look at this beautiful man.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1414638930931159042?s=21
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Going to be a top player. An Argentinian international.
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Absolute class from a class player and all-round decent human being. Another reason why we know that our club oozes it.
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What's he done (apart from signing for us)?
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What's he done (apart from signing for us)?
Look like Jon Richardson.
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First day Video,
https://youtu.be/_LQAzPjt_6g
From what Norwich fans said about Emi being the best player there ever seen down Carrow Road i just cannot wait to see him play in the Villa Colours.
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Crikey, proper behind the scenes. The camera got everywhere!
I so wish we had made an Amazon/Netflix doc of our last two seasons in the Ch'ship. Would have been far more entertaining than the Leeds and Sunderland ones.
Having said that... it would also have paid-off our HMRC taxbill meaning Tony 'the Doc/Shyster' Xia may have clung-on for a while longer.
Ok then...I'll take Pravda's dull interviews and occasional content of interest. (Just keep the Woodward-quotient low. Please).
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Crikey, that looked hard work. Nice to see a bit of Conor…I wish him all the best.
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Looks like Emi needs to up the fitness a bit if he wants to hang with the likes of Ollie!
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First day Video,
https://youtu.be/_LQAzPjt_6g
From what Norwich fans said about Emi being the best player there ever seen down Carrow Road i just cannot wait to see him play in the Villa Colours.
Whilst ostensibly dull as ditchwater, that video is strangely fascinating!
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It would be interesting to see Matty Cash against Ollie.
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First day Video,
https://youtu.be/_LQAzPjt_6g
From what Norwich fans said about Emi being the best player there ever seen down Carrow Road i just cannot wait to see him play in the Villa Colours.
Whilst ostensibly dull as ditchwater, that video is strangely fascinating!
It's the kid's first day at school and the teacher has thoughtfully edited together a video of what young Emi did. As parents (fans) we couldn't be prouder.
*This may be what Dolly O'Leary and his babbies at Leeds wanted to show the world 20 years ago.
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Ooh Arsenal, look at what you could have won..
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Crikey, that looked hard work. Nice to see a bit of Conor…I wish him all the best.
Is he being loaned out or is he still with the team? He looks to be in fantastic shape though.
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Back in training but he’ll be off before the start of the season I’m sure.
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Mr and Mrs B settling in
(https://i.ibb.co/hVBQ5K6/2-FC401-A9-E6-CA-46-DA-AC70-57-BF2-EA09217.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hVBQ5K6)
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Mr and Mrs B settling in
(https://i.ibb.co/hVBQ5K6/2-FC401-A9-E6-CA-46-DA-AC70-57-BF2-EA09217.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hVBQ5K6)
Nice work there Eastie.
Oh and I’ll say it. Fair play Mr Buendia. Erm…You have lovely kids.
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I just cannot wait to see Emi playing for us. For me this is the most exciting signing we've made for a good few years. He's straight in my FPL team, although I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
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I’d hate to have a camera follow me round on the first day at work!
Poor lad.
And being caught on camera being beaten by Conor at the bleep test
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I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
It definitely is, mate. Kept picking Watkins and he didn't score. Dropped him and he scored a hat-trick. Called up Grealish and he got injured straightaway.
No Villa players this season.
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I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
It definitely is, mate. Kept picking Watkins and he didn't score. Dropped him and he scored a hat-trick. Called up Grealish and he got injured straightaway.
No Villa players this season.
Buendia and Watkins in my first draft. Will have Martiez too if funds allow, but looking tricky. Are you in the H&V league?
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I will be, I think Dave normally sets it up so will leave in his capable hands.
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How amazing does Bodymoor look!!
Sport science is light years away from even 15 years ago
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I had Konsa and Watkins in my first draft.
No McGinn in spite of being named after him.
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How amazing does Bodymoor look!!
Sport science is light years away from even 15 years ago
Anyone can play guitar/Anyone can be a footballer with sports science (Radiohead's original working title)
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I will be, I think Dave normally sets it up so will leave in his capable hands.
Was done weeks ago. Link in the usual thread in the games forum. But if you were in before, you're automatically in again.
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Oh okay, I never ever look in the games forum. Think it might be worth putting in Heroes Discussion just until the season starts?
Two major benefits:
(i) would be more noticeable so more likely to attract new players
(ii) it really annoys Risso having loads of those sort of threads in Heroes Discussion
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Yeah, I never look in the Games Forum
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Emi Buendia will be one of the top premier league players next season.
And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
The complete package Buendia is probably one of the most gifted and exciting footballers we at Villa could realistically sign this summer.
Basically all the wide forward and midfielders rolled into one including Grealish = Buendia .
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And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
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Yeah, I never look in the Games Forum
I didn't know there was a games forum.
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And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
Bugger. Unless they introduce NFL-style special teams rules to allow us to keep subbing Ashley Young on and off, we still need a proper set piece specialist then.
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And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
Well he takes all the free kicks and corners and he's both footed so I think he's a viable option.
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I just cannot wait to see Emi playing for us. For me this is the most exciting signing we've made for a good few years. He's straight in my FPL team, although I'm a bit worried about jinxing him (which is daft because of course that isn't a real thing)
A must have! He's as effective than AEG Grealish and McGinn combined !
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/The-Numbers-Emiliano-Buend-a/
Because of the tempo he plays at and how good and fast he is at progressive ball carrying I actually think hes even more stand out than Grealish. And his numbers back that up. Not only that but the attacking energy that he plays with both feet and drives with the ball shooting from distance will be a player who can bring further excitement and joy to our play.
My only worry is how he'll compliment Grealish as he could outshine him but hoping they work in harmony. Jack will have to get use to sharing the responsibility but this is what happens in a quality team and it's good for the team as a whole .
Certainly with their ability combined Watkins could get 30 goals . Heck Davies could get 20!
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From the villa website the hard facts
Buendia created 122 chances for his team-mates in total, at least 37 more than any other player in the division, with 16 of those converted to ensure he topped the Championship’s assists charts for 2020/21.
Buendía’s numbers were just as impressive in the Premier League one season previously, when he created the fourth-most chances in the league (83) and recorded seven assists for a side that ended up finishing bottom of the table.
That year, the Argentinian continued his form from his first season in English football, when he created 91 chances (third-most) and recorded 12 assists (joint second-most).
Buendía completed 102 successful dribbles in the Premier League, with only four players recording more (Adama Traoré, Wilfried Zaha and Allan Saint-Maximin).
During the 2019/20 Premier League season, Emi Buendía was the only player with 60+ chances created, 60+ take-ons completed and 60+ tackles made:
◉ 101 take-ons completed
◉ 83 chances created
◉ 82 tackles made
This guy is going to take us to the next level!
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And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
Well he takes all the free kicks and corners and he's both footed so I think he's a viable option.
That's what they said about Tonev 😉
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And for those wondering about set pieces and things well Emi and Ashley Young have been bought to improve that.
Norwich fans were saying that set pieces are the one thing that Buendia is actually pretty shit at.
Well he takes all the free kicks and corners and he's both footed so I think he's a viable option.
That's what they said about Tonev 😉
I said it about Emi Martinez and I'll say it about emi Buendia we've got a absolute class player on our hands and like Martinez will be one of the stand out players in his position if not the best !!
What an exciting time it is!
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I agree with you Footy, I'm very hopeful.
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It is a good point about Emi and Jack. Will they both want to ball-hog? Hope they don't get in each other's way....then Ash Young comes on as a sub, says "I ruled Villa Park before either of you upstarts" and dictates play for the last 15 minutes. Villa will go on to score a league-high number of late goals and this time next year we're trying to sign Enrico Chiesa instead of Demerai Gray.
*I'd actually take Gray if Leicester were off-loading him. There's a decent player in there.
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Jesus wept Footy! You're declaring Buendia as better than Grealish before he's even kicked a ball in a Villa shirt?!
Go and have a cold shower and lie down in a darkened room! ;D
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Any excuse to have another sly dig.
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Any excuse to have another sly dig.
I thought the smily emoji might have helped but it wasn't a sly dig. Just mild disbelief at how excited Footy's getting about a player we haven't even seen in a Villa shirt yet, to the point where he's declaring him better than arguably the best player in our history!!
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Looking superb so far
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Couple of quality passes tonight for Watkins to slot home.
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Buendia’s passing tonight was so good he’d have picked out all those alleged runs into space Scott Hogan made.
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Any excuse to have another sly dig.
I thought the smily emoji might have helped but it wasn't a sly dig. Just mild disbelief at how excited Footy's getting about a player we haven't even seen in a Villa shirt yet, to the point where he's declaring him better than arguably the best player in our history!!
I meant Footy. He’s always popping at Grealish.
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Saw his two passes for Ollie last night.
Ball tingling doesn't do them justice.
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Saw his two passes for Ollie last night.
Ball tingling doesn't do them justice.
Although I wonder if Ollie would have been onside if VAR was involved. Second one looked tight. Doesn't take away the perfect thought balls though.
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Saw his two passes for Ollie last night.
Ball tingling doesn't do them justice.
Although I wonder if Ollie would have been onside if VAR was involved. Second one looked tight. Doesn't take away the perfect thought balls though.
Were good passes. But were through a pretty static 4th Division defence.
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Those were two sublime passes by Emi for Ollie's goals.
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Our new Magic Man
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Are there highlights anywhere?
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Are there highlights anywhere?
Yes.
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Are there highlights anywhere?
Yes.
Thanks
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Any excuse to have another sly dig.
I thought the smily emoji might have helped but it wasn't a sly dig. Just mild disbelief at how excited Footy's getting about a player we haven't even seen in a Villa shirt yet, to the point where he's declaring him better than arguably the best player in our history!!
I meant Footy. He’s always popping at Grealish.
This is an Emi Buendia thread not really here to discuss Grealish.
Anyway they are both high quality players but just Emi is far better at goal shooting and goal scoring. He's inclined to be shooting more and certainly not or slow to get his shot off and plays at a higher tempo more than Grealish who is very unique and can plays at his own pace. A master on the ball is Jack . Off the ball is where JG work is needed by getting into the penalty area when others are given responsibility to have the ball.
So if he continues to occupy a wide forward left position it's imperative for that to develop for good of team as his own game.
At the end of the day we always must remember it's Aston Villa FC not Jack Grealish FC.
The more on par or complimentary players Grealish has is only a good thing so hope his ego can handle it !
EB is also like Jack as a brilliant ball carriers I just see Emi as very effective in his own right and was merely saying comparatively he's a level above any one we have. As the stats say. Hitherto discussion Grealish gets fouled so much the ball carrying stats for Jack are somewhat scewd.
But Emi is of Zaha , Maxim and Adama Traroe dribbling ability and level so that to me suggests at least as a ball carrier we have potentially the best player at this skill in the league. And hopefully the most effective.
The impact on Watkins and Grealish numbers for goals and assists will increase with all 3 of them on the pitch if they work in harmony otherwise it will impact Jack more than Ollie.
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Are there highlights anywhere?
Yes.
Thanks
The OS via Villa TV has “bite size” highlights. I imagine longer ones will be available later
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FourFourTwo magazine have publicly eaten humble pie and held their hands up for tipping us to be battling relegation last season. This season they are impressed with our signing of Buendia and say "It was exactly the type of transfer needed to execute the next phase of the masterplan". This season they have tipped us for tenth place and have us as an outside bet for Europe.
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FourFourTwo magazine have publicly eaten humble pie and held their hands up for tipping us to be battling relegation last season. This season they are impressed with our signing of Buendia and say "It was exactly the type of transfer needed to execute the next phase of the masterplan". This season they have tipped us for tenth place and have us as an outside bet for Europe.
Sounds like they look at this season, then decide to tip the same for next season. Is that where you freelance Damo?
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FourFourTwo magazine have publicly eaten humble pie and held their hands up for tipping us to be battling relegation last season. This season they are impressed with our signing of Buendia and say "It was exactly the type of transfer needed to execute the next phase of the masterplan". This season they have tipped us for tenth place and have us as an outside bet for Europe.
So they'll be publicly eating humble pie and holding their hands up this time next year as well.
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As has been said, two cracking passes to Watkins for the first two - first using his left foot, then his right.
I think he is going to be a big success for us and if I remember right, he can be a bit spiky - which I like.
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My brother always mentions the 2010-11 Season Preview.
Blues had had their bestest ever season in 2010 (still finished below us) and Four Four Two predicted they would qualify for the Champions League.
They were relegated and haven't been back since.
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As has been said, two cracking passes to Watkins for the first two - first using his left foot, then his right.
I think he is going to be a big success for us and if I remember right, he can be a bit spiky - which I like.
The Walsall CB were pretty inept; but - you're right - the passes were good.
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Watching Ollie's first goal last night, Emi B is dribbling the ball with his right foot before making the slide rule pass with his left. For Ollie's second he made the amazing pass with his right foot. There's two footed and there's Emi Buendia.
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My brother always mentions the 2010-11 Season Preview.
Blues had had their bestest ever season in 2010 (still finished below us) and Four Four Two predicted they would qualify for the Champions League.
They were relegated and haven't been back since.
Four Four Two predicted Blues would make the Champions League? Blimey they should have disbanded the publication for that.
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If E=MI2 can provide regularly from one side of the pitch it is going to take away teams ability to double/triple up on Jack. With a direct running number 10 (Bailey perhaps) it will give defences nightmares, especially considering Watkins' ability to get behind the defence... happy days maybe here again, indeed.
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I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
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I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I'm trying not to get too excited by him, but he looked a genuine class act on the ball. To temper my excitement, I keep reminding myself how good Jota looked in pre-season back in 2019...
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better days of Curcic? wasn't many of those.
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I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I bloody loved Carbone’s brief time at the club.
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I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I bloody loved Carbone’s brief time at the club.
He scored an absolute worldy from just inside the opposition's half against someone I can't for the life of me remember!
That's the sum total of my memory of Carbone!
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Leeds in the FA Cup perhaps? I was gutted when we didnt sign him permanently, I vaguely remember some newspaper story about him going to fucking Bradford and a picture of him on a quad bike.
Edit. The song we played when he scored, what was that all about.
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Leeds in the Cup, when they were top of the league.
Shouted shoot jokingly and he did and smashed it in!
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Was that the cup run when we looked so exciting and then shut up shop in the final against Chelsea?
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Carbone, Ginola both suffered with Southgate like managers who saw them as luxury players (I hate that term)
brilliant players and entertainers but Like Grealish they don’t fit into a system easily, they have to be the system
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I love watching players like Buendia. So effortlessly comfortable on the ball. Reminds me of the better days of the likes of Carbone and Curcic.
I bloody loved Carbone’s brief time at the club.
He scored an absolute worldy from just inside the opposition's half against someone I can't for the life of me remember!
That's the sum total of my memory of Carbone!
Leeds in the cup?
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Was that the cup run when we looked so exciting and then shut up shop in the final against Chelsea?
Yeah, think we beat Darlington, Southampton, Dirty Leeds, Everton and Bolton on the way.
Mind you, we were crap against second tier Bolton and lucky to get through. Holdsworth missed an open goal for them. Some bloke called Eidur Gudjohnsen was the best player on the pitch, Shane we didn't sign him.
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Leeds it was!
This is the goal - https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/879702059159424/
I thought it was from further out but still a worldy!!
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I really want him to succeed, but if someone is calling him better that carrying the ball than Jack I think they have an axe to grind.
This is Buendias big chance. He scored 1 goal last time out in the premier league and he knows he can do better.
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I agree we should enjoy having both (and hopefully more) but it’s a worthless statistic. It bears no relation to where the dribbles take place or how far the balls are carried.
Buendia’s great strength is threading a pass. I hope to see a lot of that this year. Living in Norwich I’ve seen him play a lot, and the crucial link will be him and Watkins.
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Leeds it was!
This is the goal - https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/879702059159424/
I thought it was from further out but still a worldy!!
Wasn't that the same match where Merson got his face broke in the buildup to the 3rd goal?
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Leeds it was!
This is the goal - https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/879702059159424/
I thought it was from further out but still a worldy!!
Wasn't that the same match where Merson got his face broke in the buildup to the 3rd goal?
Yes. Wifey was with him in her capacity as the hottest St John’s ambulance volunteer of all time.
*swoons*
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The more I see of him, the more the transfer fee seems a snip.
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He was £35m...not £3.5m. Let's see if he can do it on a wet Tuesday night in Moss Side etc.
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This is Buendias big chance. He scored 1 goal last time out in the premier league and he knows he can do better.
7 assists though, in the worst team in the division. We could have probably signed him for near on Barkley's loan fee last summer, ifs/buts etc.... Buendia's stats last season were insane so it does seem as if he has kicked on a lot since. Bailey/Buendia/Grealish trio behind Watkins is easily top 4 standard strong.
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In 2019/2020 Buendia was statistically the Premier League's second most creative player after
Kevin De Bruyne. And that was in a struggling Norwich side.
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In 2019/2020 Buendia was statistically the Premier League's second most creative player after
Kevin De Bruyne. And that was in a struggling Norwich side.
4th highest amount of chances created wasnt it? Jack was second that season.
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In 2019/2020 Buendia was statistically the Premier League's second most creative player after
Kevin De Bruyne. And that was in a struggling Norwich side.
4th highest amount of chances created wasnt it? Jack was second that season.
Buendia is a creative genius. Whatever the stats are saying clearly he's a very talented player and exciting to put him alongside Watkins and Bailey
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Anyone know why he wasn't in the squad today, along with a few others?
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Slight knock for Buendia. Not sure about others.
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Ta.
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He was £35m...not £3.5m. Let's see if he can do it on a wet Tuesday night in Moss Side etc.
He had a goal and an assist in his last match against Stoke. We should be good.
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Plus we haven't played in Moss Side since 2002 so it's not something I'm overly concerned about.
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
How disruptive that transfer of our now ex captain is all round.
Maybe they are banking on the set of fixtures being negotiated as it's promoted sides and Newcastle. Then for chelsea and window close the players ready to come in but go with what we have Vs Watford...
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
Presumably we'll have a bit of a work-permit wait for Bailey as well, no?
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
Presumably we'll have a bit of a work-permit wait for Bailey as well, no?
No idea but he's a regular for them, cloes to our transfer record and probabyl one of our top earners so it'll go through pretty easily.
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For those that watched the full or went live in crowd how was Emi Vs the last match he played other day Bristol city I think?
He didn't play at the weekend, in either game.
Thanks. Ok so Vs Sevilla he can play?
Bailey I think not ready ?
No idea, was supposedly a minor knock.
Bailey was in Jamaica over night so doubt he'll be with the squad until Friday at the earliest, I'd be surprised to see him rushed in after that.
Presumably we'll have a bit of a work-permit wait for Bailey as well, no?
No idea but he's a regular for them, cloes to our transfer record and probabyl one of our top earners so it'll go through pretty easily.
I know. I didn't think for a second he wouldn't get one, more a reason he's not suddenly going to appear in training photos and the like.
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Been given the #10 jersey.
Let's hope he's better than the last #10...
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Don't remember.... who was that?
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Don't remember.... who was that?
Merson?
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Bit worried about this “minor hip injury”. Obviously he didn’t play away at Bristol City and I’m led to believe wasn’t massively involved in training yesterday.
Doesn’t sound like he’ll be ready for Watford. Hopefully for Newcastle as I’m really looking forward to seeing him play.
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He wasn't involved in training at all, he was interviewed pitch side which was shown on screens, no idea what he said due to accoustics and accent. Message from Bailey was also shown on big screen
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He wasn't involved in training at all, he was interviewed pitch side which was shown on screens, no idea what he said due to accoustics and accent. Message from Bailey was also shown on big screen
Not in today’s squad at all. I have a feeling the starting XI may be the one that starts at Watford too.
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He wasn't involved in training at all, he was interviewed pitch side which was shown on screens, no idea what he said due to accoustics and accent. Message from Bailey was also shown on big screen
Not in today’s squad at all. I have a feeling the starting XI may be the one that starts at Watford too.
Nah, he will be fit and starting. As good as Bidace has been he won’t start. Bailey will be on the bench
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The confirmation Emi is ready he's tweeted.
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I think he will be outstanding plays the game at the right tempo
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this fella is the real deal.
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this fella is the real deal.
He definitely is; should have bought him 12 months' ago.
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Buendia is going to rip it up for us. Cannot wait to see him when he's up to full speed.
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Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sure
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Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sure
I didn't think so but his latest post suggest he's fit and I can't see us not playing him if he is. I think he's a great FFP choice and I'm now re-thinking my draft.
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Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sure
Stick him in the team and if he doesn't play then he gets moved to your bench anyway.
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Yeah but if he comes on and plays ten minutes, you're fucked.
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Yeah but if he comes on and plays ten minutes, you're fucked.
You'll still get points for the two goals he'll score in that time.
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Good point, well made.
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Will he play tomorrow? He’s on my fantasy bench at the moment because I wasn’t sure
I didn't think so but his latest post suggest he's fit and I can't see us not playing him if he is. I think he's a great FFP choice and I'm now re-thinking my draft.
Dean Smith:
Buendia is good to go. He had a slight adductor injury and I didn't want to risk him in the game on Sunday (vs Salernitana). But he's trained all week and he's available for selection
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This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
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This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
One game in, with virtually no pre season. Jesus wept.
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This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
One game in, with virtually no pre season. Jesus wept.
Was he good?
He cant be criticsed for that awful performance
"Jesus wept'
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I'm sure there's miles more to come from him, but that was as terrible a debut as you're ever going to see. Woeful.
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This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
One game in, with virtually no pre season. Jesus wept.
Was he good?
He cant be criticsed for that awful performance
"Jesus wept'
Dear oh dear.
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This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
Hardly any pre season and straight in today. Give him a chance
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Yeah, it was a very poor performance, but it's understandable considering he can't be match sharp.
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This fella better step up. 35m and that was a fucking shocking debut
Hardly any pre season and straight in today. Give him a chance
Will give him a chance but he was so bad. Bailey has had no pre season and did morr in 5 minutes than buendia did ina hour
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I'll reserve judgement obviously, but that wasn't a great start. Looked unfit, which he almost certainly is.
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I'll reserve judgement obviously, but that wasn't a great start. Looked unfit, which he almost certainly is.
Im guessing it was that which is on smith for starting him.
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Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
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Poor debut considering the hype. Bit concerned he seemed unaware you have to pass the ball on edge of the box when 2-3 of opposition are coming to close him down, lost the ball so often.
I'd expect to see him on the right next weekend as El Ghazi certainly won't be starting after what he produced and I doubt Young will be either.
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Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
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exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.
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Looked arse frankly but then nearly al of them did. Hope smith dumps that formation when ollie is fit
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Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
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If we've blown a load of money on two players whose most effective position is the same one, well....that's a bit dumb really.
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There was one moment in the first half where he started orchestrating this move and I thought 'yeah, that looks like a real footballer'. Rubbish the rest of the time however, though I think some of that was tactical as he seemed to have been instructed to play close to Ings in the pencil-circled 'Ings' role in this new-fangled 4-4-2 Dean wants to try (with Ings in the Watkins position). The trouble with that idea is that it's terrible.
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I think he needs a mobile forward in front of him.
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Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
Funny that what with him being a left winger. And yes, I'm aware he can also play in the middle and on the right.
Square pegs, round holes strikes again.
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Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
Funny that what with him being a left winger. And yes, I'm aware he can also play in the middle and on the right.
Square pegs, round holes strikes again.
How is bailey a left winger? He even said in his interview right wing is his best position. He might be able to play left but rights where he plays
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Put him on the wing where he belongs, sign a player to play in Barkley's position.
This. He's a right winger who likes to cut in. Fucking play him there.
Baileys playing on the right
Funny that what with him being a left winger. And yes, I'm aware he can also play in the middle and on the right.
Square pegs, round holes strikes again.
How is bailey a left winger? He even said in his interview right wing is his best position. He might be able to play left but rights where he plays
That's news to me but that being the case, why the fuck have we just spent a fortune on two right wingers?
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Bailey plays either with perfect comfort, and Buendìa is only ever nominally in any given position, very much a 'move across the lines' player.
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I didn’t see much of Buendia last season but in the previous two I did and he seemed to drift across both sides. I don’t think he has enough pace to be an out and out right winger.
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He’ll be fine.
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Bailey plays either with perfect comfort, and Buendìa is only ever nominally in any given position, very much a 'move across the lines' player.
Should be starting him from the right for now though because he clearly wanted more time than he was given as a 10 today.
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Honestly, I thought if Ollie wasn't fit he'd go with Ramsey in a midfield 3 with Emi and Traoré wide to give us more solidity through the middle.
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Bailey plays either with perfect comfort, and Buendìa is only ever nominally in any given position, very much a 'move across the lines' player.
Should be starting him from the right for now though because he clearly wanted more time than he was given as a 10 today.
Plus he's very rarely ever played as a 10.
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He was played out of position which first help. Usually on the right
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I was hoping he was going to be good enough to play as a number 10 because he’s not fast enough to play on the wing
Same as when Grealish was called a winger, he was never a winger in my book he might of cut in from the left but that doesn’t make a winger
I asked on the match thread what position Buendía plays in
I still don’t know
He wasn’t very good today but I’m sure he’ll get better
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A winger who cuts in can be a winger. Buendia has shown plenty playing that role.
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A winger who cuts in can be a winger. Buendia has shown plenty playing that role.
Not for me they’re not but I’m probably being too old-fashioned
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Played out of position, what was Smith thinking.
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I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
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I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
I've just looked up the Norwich line-ups for their last 6 games last season and he is down as being on the right of a 4-2-3-1 for all of them. Whether right or wrong though I don't think he's been brought in to play there for us.
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I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
I've just looked up the Norwich line-ups for their last 6 games last season and he is down as being on the right of a 4-2-3-1 for all of them. Whether right or wrong though I don't think he's been brought in to play there for us.
Didn’t lots of people post his heat map which showed conclusively that he played almost exclusively on the right cutting in?
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Was it a free role - go wherever you fucking want, just keep assisting and scoring ?
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Yep, he was another one that didn’t really seem to have been given instructions or didn’t listen to them. I have no idea where he was supposed to be playing. Add Nakamba and the full backs to that, El Ghazi right and Young touching the left touchline early and n the game and all round it was a tactical mess with no shape. He did change it later in the half with El Ghazi left and Young helping in the middle but the others were still all over the place.
As a footballer Buendia shapes up and reminds me a bit of Joe Cole. Hopefully he’ll be like the one that played for Chelsea rather than for us, i’m sure he’ll be fine when he settles,
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The throughballs to Ollie in the Walsall game say number 10 to me.
We need players who can do that and also play quick one-twos round the area, and pass and move because that's how you get through teams that sit deep. Sideways across the back four, then hoof, and pinpoint crosses straight to the opposition centre backs' heads ain't going to cut it.
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(https://ibb.co/1QBhKQm)
Buendia Heatmap.....
I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
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I've no idea where Buendia lined up for Norwich, but from the highlights video, he seemed to spend an awful lot of time in central areas, either setting others up or scoring himself. Not much seemed to be him in wide right positions.
Even more concerned after watching that. A few runs against Championship opposition, and mainly deflected goals.
Cantwell looked good.
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(https://ibb.co/1QBhKQm)
Buendia Heatmap.....
I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
Which way was he kicking.
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After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
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he didn't look fit enough - but Bailey and Traore were also not fully fit so I think all of them would have struggled to play for an hour.
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After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
He shouldn't be criticised for playing as badly as he did yesterday? Good grief.
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After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
He shouldn't be criticised for playing as badly as he did yesterday? Good grief.
The whole team played badly. And how about he was played in a position or system that didn’t maximize what he does? Or that he played in that position which might not where he ultimately plays when other players come in settle. You called it as terrible a debut as you will see. So melodramatic.
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After just one game a player that was universally welcomed and made everyone excited is being questioned and criticized. Good grief.
I know. Also have a look at the Bailey thread. One game and everyone praising him to the max. It's ridiculous.
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(https://ibb.co/1QBhKQm)
Buendia Heatmap.....
I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
"What is it?"
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we like our extremes here
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My problem with it yesterday was that although I think Smith picked the best 11 to start it under the circumstances he didn’t play them where you would have expected. El Ghazi right, Young left wing and Buendia fuck knows where was baffling. It should have been El Ghazi left, Buendia right and Young supporting McGinn and Nakamba in the middle.
Add to that Nakamba, Cash and Targett pushing on too much and we were all over the place, whether that was Smiths instructions or whether they decided to do it themselves im not sure but it was stupid either way. We also looked rusty with poor passing and positional sense in defence.
I wouldn’t really blame any one player too much, the positives were that Bailey certainly looked a cracking player right from the off and Young alleviated any concerns about the full backs getting any injuries this season, he looked miles better than Taylor and Elmo, I’d imagine he could fill in either side.
Oh and their 2 first half goals were lucky anyway especially the second although I don’t doubt they deserved to be in front.
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My issue with him yesterday was how slow and ponderous he was with the ball. Granted that’s partly due to a lack of passing options available to him. But he certainly wasn’t high tempo or driving the play as he’s known for. Just dithered with it, then got dispossessed.
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I don't care if he was shit in his first game, it happens. I'm more intrigued on where he has been brought in to play. If we are moving him in from the right, which I think is what he is going to be doing, then he'll need time to adapt his game. The argument is whether you should be doing that at all but I'm far from going to judge him after one game.
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Were most of his goals last season deflections? If so, maybe it's a unique talent - intentional deflections.
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Were most of his goals last season deflections? If so, maybe it's a unique talent - intentional deflections.
He's like Captain America with his shield or Angles McManus. Thought I'd play to two different audiences there.
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He's an excellent player but a right midfielder / winger. I was surprised how people thought he'd slot straight into a '10' He's probably capable of it, but it may take a bit of time. As things stand we've bought 3 right wingers in the last two summers and look light on the left and at 10.
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Bailey must be earmarked for playing on the left, surely? If not we haven't replaced Greasy at all, and have over-stocked the right hand side to an absurd level.
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Yes, I think Bailey will play on the left, but he's on record saying he prefers the right. I think cutting in was a big part of his game. I still think he's a good signing, but it does feel a bit unbalanced.
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Needs to play in a role in which we can get him facing goal. That could be wide right, but that either leaves one one of Ings, Watkins or Bailey, or has us with two Up Top, or with Ings as a number ten. What we need is to have him as a ten playing further away from the main striker, almost as an 8, and for that we need to free up McGinn a bit, and for that we need a really good defensive midfielder.
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Yes . This whole plans in place by the club is sheer nerve.
Clearly it's been a strategy that involved selling out best player.
But then replacing with various choices that we could get
I'm not convinced by what they claims and as it really been suggested no more attaching signings it seems a mismash of 3 signings to replace Grealish and a cheap free signings and loan of Young and Tuanzebe.
They can spin that as a strengthen of resources but seems like majority of transfer business was afforded because of the sale.
If we had kept Grealish and got these signings too then we're talking bonanza
Really feel should have Abraham for the long term than Ings.
Better fit for the squad.
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thing is you can only judge him on what we’ve seen so far
And let’s face it he was a bit rubbish yesterday
That’s not writing him off like some people get all upset about that’s just saying what we saw
Exactly the same as Leon Bailey
I only saw him for 20 odd minutes but thought he looked good
My judgement after those few minutes is he’ll be a Cracking player for us
So am I judging him after a few minutes yeah I am and I reckon he’ll be okay
As for Buendia He was the best player in the championship last year so I doubt he’ll be that bad again
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Credit to the blokes in the Moon Under Water on Saturday, who got this chant going.
Emi Buendia
From Argentina
He signed for Villa from Carrow Road
He's five foot seven
Football heaven
So please don't take my Emi away.
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exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.
who is his BFF?
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exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.
who is his BFF?
Cantwell or Messi were my guesses.
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exactly and if he needs his bezzie mate to function better, buy him.
who is his BFF?
Cantwell or Messi were my guesses.
Be happy with Cantwell. As long as we get a bit hard bastard in the middle to go with him
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Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?
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Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?
he is not lightening quick and tends to turn back when pressed to create space for himself. He was excellent today.
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He definitely looks off the pace. Not fast enough, easily brushed off the ball, and not really finding space in dangerous areas.
It's early days but you can tell he's finding it tricky.
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He's still adapting to a new way of playing and a new set of players. He knew when Cantwell and Pukki would go behind, drop deep, play a one-two etc. It will come here, lets get him on the pitch with Ollie, Bailey, Traore and then we will see his worth.
For what its worth I thought he looked alot better this week, in the 1st half Cash had the ball on the right flank, Emi dropped deep and played a lovely one-two to get Cash into the area. It was one of the few times we opened them up.
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My worry all along was that he might get bullied a bit by more physical players it absolutely happened last week and again a bit today, we really need him to learn how to handle it better but I think part of it is that he's not fully fit, lets see how he's going come the end of September.
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He definitely looks off the pace. Not fast enough, easily brushed off the ball, and not really finding space in dangerous areas.
It's early days but you can tell he's finding it tricky.
Exactly right. He's got no real pace at all, and was bullied constantly today. Some nice touches, but that's not enough at this level. Hope he finds his feet, and I suppose the hope is that when we've got Watkins and Bailey back, they'll pull players around with their pace and running so he can concentrate on his passing. Concerning though, he looks every inch the Championship player making a step up at the moment. Early days, but hard to imagine him getting any quicker or bigger.
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I think he started to get more physically involved in the second half. He pressed well with Ramsey at one point, which resulted in a foul by Jacob Murphy.
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Buendia will be absolutely fine for us after a few games. He's a class act, and I liked the ay today that he linked well with Cash, MGinn and JJ.
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
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Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?
he is not lightening quick and tends to turn back when pressed to create space for himself. He was excellent today.
Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!
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I think Smith might have a bit of a game trying to find the perfect attacking midfield/wingers combination
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
Just to be clear I'm not writing him off and I think he has a lot of quality but I think there's a fair concern that he's been bullied a bit so far and that happened last time he was in this league as well.
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He was better, but way short of what he’ll be able to do. He’ll be fine.
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(https://i.ibb.co/djbLy06/20210607-122045.png) (https://ibb.co/djbLy06)
(https://ibb.co/1QBhKQm)
Buendia Heatmap.....
I posted this when we signed him. This is where he played for Norwich.
"What is it?"
- "I don't know but it looks like it's attacking the Enterprise."
As long as he’s attacking, he’s good for me and The Villa.
Phaser on ‘Stun’. 👍
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Wasnt great for me. Will give him obviously more time, but so far he doesnt look like a 40m player to me. He could still be catching his fitness
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He's still finding his way. He was Norwich's Jack Grealish and now at a new club we need to find out how to use him best. That might take a few games. We have a superb footballer at the club who has done it in the PL when Norwich were last up. Throw in fitness issues too he's just got a bit to go before we see his true ability come through.
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Not trying to find something where there is nothing, but is Buendia slow? Feel like he gets beaten for pace all the time, but I realize I may let my momentary frustration influence my general opinion. Anyone else feel there is something to my concern or am I just overreacting?
he is not lightening quick and tends to turn back when pressed to create space for himself. He was excellent today.
Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!
Tosh …I thought he had a good game that improved as it went on, he will be very good. He’s not Jack Grealish but still a fine player
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Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!
Fuck no. Not sure what you are on about?
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
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Personally I thought he was very slow and had a poor game. But each to their own.
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he'll improve when he's fully fit - still looks a bit off the pace, but it's all a big change for him.
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
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Like the team it took him 20-30 mins to get going. Then he tired after 60 mins. There's much more to come from him once fit.
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I thought he showed some very neat touches, he's clearly very comfortable on the ball. Agree that he looked tired quite early in the second half. We will need to find a way for him to have more of an impact on matches. Do we think the plan is to play him as a 10 when Bailey and Bert are fit?
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I thought he was quite poor yesterday. Got a very nice first touch and plays with his head up, but didn’t make a massive contribution and looked slow and unfit.
One thing I noticed was he was looking for the clever ball in down the left channel a couple of times and wasn’t helped by AEG’s total lack of movement off the ball. When Bailey is fit it might make him more effective.
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I would say that he is best as a 10. Get Leon and Bert down the wings for a bit of pace an let EMI have a free role.
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I would say that he is best as a 10. Get Leon and Bert down the wings for a bit of pace an let EMI have a free role.
I'd agree with that - Doesn't seem to have that extra yard of pace required for a winger at this level. Few balls threaded through towards the right corner flag which looked easy to make, yet he got beaten to it by the Newcastle defender almost every time.
I'd stick him behind a front two of Ollie and Ings where he can be more productive, pulling the strings.
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
FFS, you said that you hadn't even watched the game! As Paul said, I'm not writing him off, but the evidence on the first two games hasn't been very positive. I hope he'll come good.
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Some players start well and then fade out (Ross Barkley), others take a few games to settle. He'll be fine, just need to find the right position for him to get on the ball more. He does look a little sluggish, but it's early days
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I'm also not writing him off but based on what I've seen in two games so far there's more than a hint of Jota and Carles Gil about him.
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No one is writing him off yet but so far has contributed very little. I thought he would be a tad bit quicker than what he is. Doesnt seem to beat a man at all.
I think his link up play with ings has been poor so far
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'I'm not writing him off but'...
I think people have done well to give him two games to be honest. It's not normally that generous.
He'll be fine once he settles and gets himself a goal.
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Im also reminded of Jota, great feet and vision but needs to improve physically, which should be easily done
He looked a lot better with Ollie in front of him:
Very early days
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
FFS, you said that you hadn't even watched the game! As Paul said, I'm not writing him off, but the evidence on the first two games hasn't been very positive. I hope he'll come good.
FFS 😉
I've seen enough of him at Norwich, and read enough about his stats to know he'll be good. Having now watched the match, I thought he looked tidy if nothing particularly of note was on show.
We've been somewhat blessed over the last few seasons to see one of the best around plying his trade. Pretty much anyone else wouldn't look amazing in his stead.
Buendia will be great for us once we've settled in a bit.
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I really liked what I saw yesterday. He passes and moves, makes himself available, looks for work and has a decent pass. Do not think he is a right winger though, would like to see him in a midfield 3.
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I noticed he won the ball back a few times yesterday as well, which really should be the end of the Jota comparisons by itself.
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FFS he's played 2 games.
His stats from his last Premier League season were brilliant and in a team that were relegated. He'll be fine.
FFS stop having an opinion on how you think he is currently playing because I will misconstrue it as you all writing him off whereas in fact you are just stating concerns whilst also likely understanding that he will most probably get better but currently think that he needs to improve on a few things. Geez people, come on.
I happen to think people stating issues are largely right (although understand this can be debated) whilst also being confident that he'll find his way. It would be rare to have his stats and end up being shite.
FFS, as an example, try reading Risso's last post before mine. Tell me how I've misconstrued that. When you then add on various posts after his first game you'd think he had no redeeming features.
FFS, you said that you hadn't even watched the game! As Paul said, I'm not writing him off, but the evidence on the first two games hasn't been very positive. I hope he'll come good.
FFS 😉
I've seen enough of him at Norwich, and read enough about his stats to know he'll be good. Having now watched the match, I thought he looked tidy if nothing particularly of note was on show.
We've been somewhat blessed over the last few seasons to see one of the best around plying his trade. Pretty much anyone else wouldn't look amazing in his stead.
Buendia will be great for us once we've settled in a bit.
FFS
Just wanted to join in
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I thought he was pretty annonymous to be honest, although I'm sure he'll get better the more minutes he has.
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Thought he started really well and always looked to be involved. 2nd half, less so, but He will be great for us I’m sure.
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FFS
Just wanted to join in
FFS John. I thought you and something to say...
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My issue is purely around his physicality, with no great pace to speak of he needs to be strong to avoid getting pushed around. Last time Norwich were up I had a friend (who's a Norwich fan) saying he thought Buendia was a better player than Grealish so I started watching them and I ended up catching about 10 of their games. Over that I noticed that when he had time and space he was quality but when he got pressured he was eased off the ball too easily and too often. I think I've posted something similar pretty early on this thread (or on the transfer thread), I hoped he spent the year in the championship learning how to cope with that side of things but 2 games in he still seems to be trying to work it out. If he can he'll be a top player.
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He also played well yesterday he will only get better.
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Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!
Fuck no. Not sure what you are on about?
I thought I had made it perfectly clear (perhaps Specsavers might help you) and that is why he got subbed!
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Thought he started really well and always looked to be involved. 2nd half, less so, but He will be great for us I’m sure.
Indeed. First half he really put in a shift, chased everything and was desperate to get involved, I'd love to see his running stats for the first 45 minutes. I liked the way he'd switch play, creating space for others. Too often second half we looked to switch it to the right and he was no where to be found. Very strange. Admittedly he took on his defensive duties as we doubled up with the press but overall I think he'd tried to do too much and ended up knackered.
He'll be fine once we have a more settled formation and tactics.
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I thought he showed some very neat touches, he's clearly very comfortable on the ball. Agree that he looked tired quite early in the second half. We will need to find a way for him to have more of an impact on matches. Do we think the plan is to play him as a 10 when Bailey and Bert are fit?
I hope it is.
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Sorry I totally disagree, he is either not fully fit yet or still carrying an injury but he was anonymous today!
Fuck no. Not sure what you are on about?
I thought I had made it perfectly clear (perhaps Specsavers might help you) and that is why he got subbed!
He certainly wasn't anonymous yesterday: his pressing in the first half and support of Cash in the second were very obvious and noteworthy. I liked the way he went looking for the ball instead of just waiting out on the right.
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had a good first 45 mins then faded. Still do not think he's what we need but I am no Dean Smith.
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Saw glimpses of what he can offer, but wasn't great for me. Not sure where he had been asked to play, or if he'd been license to roam wherever he wanted, but a few times Ramsey and Cash seemed to be looking for the option down the line but he was nowhere to be seen.
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Saw glimpses of what he can offer, but wasn't great for me. Not sure where he had been asked to play, or if he'd been license to roam wherever he wanted, but a few times Ramsey and Cash seemed to be looking for the option down the line but he was nowhere to be seen.
The formation seemed quite fluid yesterday, which I suppose might be a good thing.
When we had the ball, it almost looked like a 4-1-4-1, with McGinn wider of Buendia at times. When they had the hall it reverted to more of a 4-2-3-1.
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I think he will play as a 10, didn’t really get into the game yesterday
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It is clear he was bought for his creativity as evidenced with his superb through balls for Watkins at Walsall. His graft and ability to win turnovers is an added bonus.
Once up to speed he will be equally important to the team as rat boy was and hopefully as effective
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Not yet fully fit, but he will be a good player for us I'm sure of it.
As for being anonymous? Yeah, no.
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It is clear he was bought for his creativity as evidenced with his superb through balls for Watkins at Walsall. His graft and ability to win turnovers is an added bonus.
Once up to speed he will be equally important to the team as rat boy was and hopefully as effective
Once he's got Ollie pulling defenders away with his runs in behind it will create significant space between the defense/midfield. I'm not worried about Emi at all, just needs to be surrounded by pace and develop the right chemistry.
In time boys!
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He did a very nice pass first half to Luiz when he fired over. Was on corner of box and placed it perfectly between two Newcastle players.
Still on the fringes really.
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Disappointed so far as thought he would be better. He just doesn’t look fit enough or strong enough but I’m sure the coaching staff will sort that out as they did with Targett
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I'm also not writing him off but based on what I've seen in two games so far there's more than a hint of Jota and Carles Gil about him.
I think that is the type of player we have bought but hopefully with a ceiling closer to David Silva.
I don’t recall a player like that at Villa so it might take us a while to get used to him.
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Early days for the wee fella. He’s got plenty of talent and seems quite feisty too. He’ll be more than alright.
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He had a 20-25 minute period towards the end of the first half on Saturday where he was dominating the ball and popping up in space all over the pitch, creating a number of openings with really clever passing - it was this that created a lot of the pressure we put on Newcastle towards half time which eventually resulted in the goal.
Doesn't yet look up to speed to produce that 20 minute burst for longer periods - although to be fair, any creative player would only have looked fleetingly good against a Bruce side who were really looking to shut the game down. However I saw enough during that time to see what he'll bring to the side when he's fully integrated.
He's very different to previous occupiers of the #10 in that he's more of a passer, not a dribbler. This will undoubtedly suit Watkins (and hopefully Bailey) who will like to stretch teams from wide areas and create space for him to operate. I do think we're 3-4 weeks away from looking a really well-balanced attacking unit, which we could not say we were last season. If we can continue to pick up results like Sat while we gel this front 6, once we hit our stride Emi will be running the show.
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He had a 20-25 minute period towards the end of the first half on Saturday where he was dominating the ball and popping up in space all over the pitch, creating a number of openings with really clever passing - it was this that created a lot of the pressure we put on Newcastle towards half time which eventually resulted in the goal.
Doesn't yet look up to speed to produce that 20 minute burst for longer periods - although to be fair, any creative player would only have looked fleetingly good against a Bruce side who were really looking to shut the game down. However I saw enough during that time to see what he'll bring to the side when he's fully integrated.
He's very different to previous occupiers of the #10 in that he's more of a passer, not a dribbler. This will undoubtedly suit Watkins (and hopefully Bailey) who will like to stretch teams from wide areas and create space for him to operate. I do think we're 3-4 weeks away from looking a really well-balanced attacking unit, which we could not say we were last season. If we can continue to pick up results like Sat while we gel this front 6, once we hit our stride Emi will be running the show.
Agree with this - especially the last line
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I think he was working too hard on Saturday as he was quite often too far back for my liking. Maybe he was instructed too or maybe it was an eagerness to impress. Either way, I was impressed and he will get better.
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There is apparently a piece in the Athletic today about the intricacies of his transfer from Norwich. If any kind subscriber fancies copying and pasting perhaps they could do so here?
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When it comes to high-value footballers, sometimes it pays for a board to be proactive in planning a sale.
Norwich City are increasingly well-versed in sanctioning high-profile departures for big profits — and Emiliano Buendia is the latest case.
Aware of Buendia’s ambitions, Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber sat down with the player and his agent early on last season, before Christmas, to map out an eventual exit, whether or not the club ended up winning promotion back to the Premier League at the first time of asking. By instigating the process, Norwich believed they were taking control of the situation and avoiding bad blood.
Pricing parameters were discussed and, impressed by Norwich’s co-operation, Buendia was fully on board for the rest of last season. Head coach Daniel Farke made subtle comments in the media, implying the club would be open to selling Buendia when the summer window opened. Nevertheless, securing promotion put Norwich in a strong financial position and the Argentinian’s agent was told the fee that took his client away from Carrow Road needed to “start with a three”.
Aston Villa were the first to place a serious bid. Rival interest from Arsenal then lifted Norwich’s hopes of getting close to their ideal price of £40 million. An Arsenal bid of £30 million plus £5 million in potential add-ons exceeded Villa’s by £2 million of add-ons. Webber informed Villa chief executive Christian Purslow of the counter-offer from north London and outlined the bid that would seal Buendia’s services without this becoming an auction.
Purslow rang back and improved Villa’s proposal to £33 million plus £5 million add-ons, and the deal was further sweetened with a 10 per cent sell-on clause (Buendia is only 24). By the time Richard Garlick, Arsenal’s director of football operations, tried to intervene again, the player was already in Birmingham for his Villa medical. The whole process took a fortnight.
Buendia was sold promptly after the end of last season, the deal done in June, but at this late stage of a window, a message from a club saying they want a player to leave can cause serious time issues. The call comes and if a buyer is to be found, you have only a few days to react and dig around.
“But,” says one experienced English agent, “if you’re any good at your job, then you already know who likes your player. You’d never tell anyone that, but if you’re a good agent then you know who’s got an eye on him. You know who you can call and start the conversation with. It doesn’t mean it’ll lead anywhere, but you’re not starting from scratch.”
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Thanks Chris.
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Think he will be a good player for us
but not on the wing
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Called up by Argentina. Well done Emi and Emi
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Pretty decent attacking company to be in.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9etmIvXMAQjlnS?format=jpg)
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I see the "South American Gary Shaw" is in as well.
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It must be shit being an Argentinian football fan - a grand total of two of the national squad play in Argentina. Everyone else plays in Europe!
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Sk this mwans no martinez and buendia for 2 games ffs
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Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
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Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
+ Quarantine.
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Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
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I’m not sure stopping them joining up would be a particularly good idea, even if it were an option. I imagine for Martinez in particular being the Argentina no.1 is probably pretty important to him.
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Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
Good plan. Stopping them representing their country is certain to prove motivational and increase their bond with the club.
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I can't imagine quarantine will be an issue. Either they'll grant the same exemption they did last year or the European Club Association en masse will refuse to let their players travel. I expect it'll be the former and we will be missing Buendia, Martinez and Bailey (not on red list so almost certainly playing) for one game in September and one in October. Not great but not the end of the world. If WM Police would get their fingers out and move Villa v Wolves to the Sunday, that might help.
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I can't imagine quarantine will be an issue. Either they'll grant the same exemption they did last year or the European Club Association en masse will refuse to let their players travel. I expect it'll be the former and we will be missing Buendia, Martinez and Bailey (not on red list so almost certainly playing) for one game in September and one in October. Not great but not the end of the world. If WM Police would get their fingers out and move Villa v Wolves to the Sunday, that might help.
Is the Villa v Wolves move likely?
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Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
Good plan. Stopping them representing their country is certain to prove motivational and increase their bond with the club.
Liverpool just did it to Salah.
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No idea, but can't remember us playing that at the same time as Albion vs Blose so wouldn't be surprised if one of them moved.
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Is it right they’ve got games in September and October, meaning we miss both for a few games?
Yeah 10 days quarantine. We should block them from going like other clubs are doing. We are paying them after all bot their national teams
Good plan. Stopping them representing their country is certain to prove motivational and increase their bond with the club.
Various news places reporting that Man City and Liverpool are refusing to release their players.
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We've got Martinez the recognition to become Argentina's No. 1. He'll be mightily pissed off if we try and stop him going.
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I imagine that if a few European clubs withhold their players, every club will do it.
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It must be shit being an Argentinian football fan - a grand total of two of the national squad play in Argentina. Everyone else plays in Europe!
Only one once we finally sign Julian Alvarez on deadline day (part-ex with Wesley and Keinan sent down to Argentina. They can get a flight to Antarctica some weekend to see the penguins.)
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I imagine that if a few European clubs withhold their players, every club will do it.
Yeah my thoughts exactly.
This could be a major problem as the season progresses
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I can't imagine quarantine will be an issue. Either they'll grant the same exemption they did last year or the European Club Association en masse will refuse to let their players travel. I expect it'll be the former and we will be missing Buendia, Martinez and Bailey (not on red list so almost certainly playing) for one game in September and one in October. Not great but not the end of the world. If WM Police would get their fingers out and move Villa v Wolves to the Sunday, that might help.
That would suit me if it happens as I will miss that game as it has already been moved once and I already had tickets for Peaky Blinders at Black Country Museum that evening.
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To me this is the sort of game Vs Brentford today that Buendia turns up and has a starring role.
I think a goal is on the cards today.
A screamer at that.
Maybe an assist too.
Exciting player who is now getting his fitness
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And he delivers !!
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FV you are a prophet.
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Hold yer horses, Monty. Where's the bloody assist?
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[imgleft]terrible AEG you should never be offside there
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Scrap the internationals. They are only just out of tournaments as it is. What's the point?
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Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
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I thought he played well today.
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Thought he was better today. His close control seems poor. Often ends up with a poor couple of touches then ends up backing into a player with his arse. Might have been watching McGinn in training.
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Scored a worldy today but spent half the time on the floor - I’ve not taken to him yet sorry
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He gets caught on the ball very often, I think this is partly due to the static nature of our play.
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He lost the ball too many times being weak today. Great goal though.
Probably misses the next game now because of Argentina.
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Great goal, but not blown away so far tbh. Pretty confident he'll improve though, especially when we've got Bert and Bailey in the mix.
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Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
My take aswell on him.
It was a lovely finish and he hit a lovely pass out wide to Cash at some point in second half but he dosen't half lose the ball frequently when in decent positions. Odd given he's played in this country for last 4 years especially in championship where it's far more frenetic.
Perhaps we were just spoilt by who he's effectively replaced but get the feeling we've overhyped him a little too much as there were chances to play Ings through today and he overhit the pass on 2-3 occasions.
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Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
My take aswell on him.
It was a lovely finish and he hit a lovely pass out wide to Cash at some point in second half but he dosen't half lose the ball frequently when in decent positions. Odd given he's played in this country for last 4 years especially in championship where it's far more frenetic.
Perhaps we were just spoilt by who he's effectively replaced but get the feeling we've overhyped him a little too much as there were chances to play Ings through today and he overhit the pass on 2-3 occasions.
Or you can give a bit of time to a player to settle in to a new team with a very fragmented start to the season due to selection issues.
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Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
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Definitely, he’s a fighter as well as a very talented lad. Once Bailey is up to speed and we have options for flair elsewhere on the park his ability to shine and be more remarkable may increase too.
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Flashes today, but it's strange, it's like he's come from some foreign league where the game is slower. I wonder how much of that is down to how few options we ever give the man in possession.
My take aswell on him.
It was a lovely finish and he hit a lovely pass out wide to Cash at some point in second half but he dosen't half lose the ball frequently when in decent positions. Odd given he's played in this country for last 4 years especially in championship where it's far more frenetic.
Perhaps we were just spoilt by who he's effectively replaced but get the feeling we've overhyped him a little too much as there were chances to play Ings through today and he overhit the pass on 2-3 occasions.
Or you can give a bit of time to a player to settle in to a new team with a very fragmented start to the season due to selection issues.
Of course but it's more people hyping him up as potential signing of the season. He did cost 30m + after all so should be reasonable expectations not to take six months to get up to speed.
More excited to see Bailey once he gets starts, really think he's going to add much needed dimension to our style of play.
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One goal in three from out wide ain’t a bad start? Just one behind Ings.
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One goal in three from out wide ain’t a bad start? Just one behind Ings.
I want to see him hitting excellent throughballs for Ings, wasted one presentable chance in first half when he massively overhit it.
Was doing it no problem for Teemu Pukki so shouldn't be an issue I hope.
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One goal in three from out wide ain’t a bad start? Just one behind Ings.
I want to see him hitting excellent throughballs for Ings, wasted one presentable chance in first half when he massively overhit it.
Was doing it no problem for Teemu Pukki so shouldn't be an issue I hope.
Me too, I just know once we have a settled side and he finds his feet, a little more flair elsewhere on the park it will come. There was a couple passes today which nearly made it, but not quite. We saw a glimpse in pre-season for Ollie, the ability to do that is there.
There’s no denying, it may sound like excuses but we’ve had a shocking summer. Covid has cancelled two games, the injury list is pretty ridiculous and that ****** leaving has sent ripples through the team and fans, which as much as we want to admit it, it’s really pissed us off and it’s a shocker of a hammer blow.
I think that’s why so many of us want that marquee signing. Problem more so than the manger. We want that lift. I presume the manager and his team have faith in their abilities. I guess we have doubts, which is not a surprise, considering the years of doom and gloom of we’ve witnessed.
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I thought he was going to cry after he scored.
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I thought he was good today, bearing in mind he was playing next to Ashley Young, who whatever he is these days, certainly isn't a central midfielder. And Ings doesn't do an awful lt of running around either.
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He’s looking more like a John McGinn than a Joe
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I loved the fact he obviously didn't want to score in the penalty area so instead took the ball outside the box before smashing it in the back of the net. The big show-off.
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I think once Watkins comes into the team we'll see Buendia shine so much. Because of Watkins energy and pressing as well as wide channel movements
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I know he needs time to settle in and is showing bits and pieces of quality but I think I expected more from him. Early days though and I hope our money is well spent.
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I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
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I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
This in turn giving Ings and others opportunities.
McGinn and the midfield too.
Exciting.
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Yep, once we’re back to full strength, we’re going to be just fine. Ollie made two saves in the cameo he played. Add a bit of Traore and Bailey and we’re going to be fun.
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I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
Yeah can’t wait for them two to get up-to speed, exciting times ahead
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I agree Footy. Ollie and Emi will be fantastic together.
Yeah can’t wait for them two to get up-to speed, exciting times ahead
And with Bailey on the other side.
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I’ve saw enough encouraging signs yesterday to think when we are back to full strength and attacking at pace, we’ll be really fun team to watch.
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Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
Exactly, but why bother with the positive side of things when people can look at the negatives 😉
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Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
Exactly, but why bother with the positive side of things when people can look at the negatives 😉
Probably good to look at all of them, to be fair!
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Its early days so far but im not sure on the price tag. He looks ok but i think 35m was a hefty price tag
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Worth pointing out he also won the ball back 9 times, which is pretty great.
Exactly, but why bother with the positive side of things when people can look at the negatives 😉
So we did sign that DM that we all wanted.
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I thought he played well. He is slight but he his ultra competitive out of possession, especially so for an attacking player.
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He was rubbish last night, did absolutely knack all of any use. Number 10 isn’t his position.
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Would you start him ahead of Jacob Ramsey? No and that's before you consider Aaron who is possibly the better play. A lot of money spent on an unproven player - let wait and see. Ps he was alright last night, hate his antics though
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If we stick to the new 5-3-2 which we surely will against Man U, then he isn't starting. And I'd then be bringing Traore on ahead of him, who played really well last night.
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Yeah he's shit, let's just get rid of him .
FFS give the guy a chance, why are so many posters so down on our players?
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Yeah he's shit, let's just get rid of him .
FFS give the guy a chance, why are so many posters so down on our players?
I don't think anybody has suggested getting rid of him.
FFS, why are some posters so hysterical at the slightest bit of any criticism of a player? :)
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Buendia will come good for us. He's a classy player, and the main thing is for him to realise that he is not a slam-dunk to play: he has to earn his slot in the starting XI.
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Yeah he's shit, let's just get rid of him .
FFS give the guy a chance, why are so many posters so down on our players?
I don't think anybody has suggested getting rid of him.
FFS, why are some posters so hysterical at the slightest bit of any criticism of a player? :)
Yep it is all very exciting the players we have now , just need to get them and keep them fit !!
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My opinion on him is pretty clear.
He obviously showed at Norwich he was a good player and will in time show that for us.
Way some were going on when we signed him it was like we'd signed prime Messi.
Leon Bailey has the quality to push us into the top 6 and get us beating some of the better teams, don't quite get the same feeling from Buendia but could be wrong of course e.g. with Bailey in starting 11 he could really hurt Man. United on the break, don't get the same feeling from Buendia.
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He played well against Brentford and made some intricate passes. Then he's had the whole international call-up and training in Croatia debacle. He'll come good in time.
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I thought he was ok the other night and was better at winning the ball back. Still needs to
be stronger under challenge.
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My opinion on him is pretty clear.
He obviously showed at Norwich he was a good player and will in time show that for us.
Way some were going on when we signed him it was like we'd signed prime Messi.
Leon Bailey has the quality to push us into the top 6 and get us beating some of the better teams, don't quite get the same feeling from Buendia but could be wrong of course e.g. with Bailey in starting 11 he could really hurt Man. United on the break, don't get the same feeling from Buendia.
You've also got to bear in mind where they both came from. Bailey's been playing top flight football for a top team in a top league for the past four/five years, as well as his appearances in the Champions League and Europa.
Buendia spent last year playing for Norwich in the Championship.
They're different calibre players but the coaching staff clearly think there's something there with Buendia or we wouldn't have signed him for that amount of money. We need to give him time to show that.
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I thought he was ok the other night and was better at winning the ball back. Still needs to
be stronger under challenge.
His ability to hold on to the ball was my only concern with him when he signed and it's still a concern having watched him a few times. When he gets a yard of space he can pass and shoot but if he gets rushed he can be bullied and that needs to improve if he wants to succeed with us and if he wants to break into the Argentina side.
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Its very early days but people are going to give their early impressions, it's only natural. As long as people aren't writing him off after several appearances when we know he had the quality before he came here and seems to have the right attitude. I don't think anyone has done that though, personally i think he's very talented but it's not a given that he'll be a big success for us for a number of reasons. We'll have to wait and see.
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I think Buendia adjusting to things being the record signing can take its toll. So both this and the system as well as trying hard.
He's also been away on international and then in Croatia. I think we have yet to see the best of him though his lovely strike for goal against Newcastle a glimpse.
Once settled in I like to think he be wonders in this team
I've always found him an exciting player when seeing him seasons past.
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As he played for Narrrich I don't think he ever registered on my radar until this season. No player is definetely going to click immediately, and the record transfer fee is more of a reflection of the state of the modern game as opposed to him being the greatest player Villa have ever signed. He was identified early and that bodes well for his abilities, he was, in no way, a panic buy and time and patience is sometimes required, see also Targett.
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I get the impression that he’s been doubted at his new club every time he’s moved and has proved the doubters wrong. It’s still far too early to make any assessment of his capabilities.
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Providing he's not played out of position I have no worries with him. I'd rather see Ramsey play as the central attacking midfielder plus we have Chuk to bring off the bench.
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It looks like he was signed to (Lord forgive me for mentioning formations, and Lord spare me from reading about formations) play in a 4-3-3. He's a bit of a fifth wheel in three-at-the-back.
Edit: I know he doesn't play at the back!
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It looks like he was signed to (Lord forgive me for mentioning formations, and Lord spare me from reading about formations) play in a 4-3-3. He's a bit of a fifth wheel in three-at-the-back.
Edit: I know he doesn't play at the back!
Yep. I’m not anti three at the back but it makes two of the biggest signings in our history periferal to the strategy rather than integral. The same could be said for Traore and El Ghazi.
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Think we'll go back to 4-3-3 from mid October so he'll be starting again before too long.
We have so many attacking options when they're all fit it's ridiculous. Just think back to March and April when Wes and Davis were the sole attacking options off the bench, miles away from that paucity now.
AEG, Buendia and Traore all likely options to bring off the bench on the hour mark tomorrow if we can defend well and stay in the game despite Mike Dean's best efforts. Bailey should be in that list aswell but seemingly can't have everything this season.
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Given the continuing injury problems to Sanson, Bailey and TRaore, theres no doubt Emi II will be getting plenty of gametime.
And, anyway, he's a perfect sub at 60 minutes: feisty, tricky and a goalscorer.
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He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
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He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
Couldn’t agree more
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He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
Correct
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He will end up being a great player for us. Sometimes it takes time to settle and so far he's hardly played and trained.
Correct
I agree too, but young Jacob has done so well he has deserved to keep his place ahead of him
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He was excellent today when he came on. Well up for it and looked stronger. His touch was very good. Well done lad!
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Looked sharp when he came on today, looking forward to seeing more from him.
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we have got some very good footballers now
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It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
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It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
How so?
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Not at all. He’s just settling in. He looked excellent yesterday when he came on I thought.
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It could be worse, he could be Joelinton who's still settling in after three years. I've few worries about this lad.
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If he had played as many Premier league minutes as Grealish has for Man City this season he would have higher numbers that him for goals and assists.
The facts are Buendia has played one full 90 minutes and in that game he scored.
And has only played 258 minutes of football.
I predict he'll get equal or better numbers than Grealish this season.
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It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
Man. United signed Sancho for about 70m and he's played less than Buendia so far.
Donny van whatshisname was 40m + and he must've started about two league games for them in 18 months!
Just got to accept as we keep rising up the league we'll be signing more players in 25-40m bracket and they all won't be able to start week in week out.
Think Buendia will be back in the team before too long. Think Arsenal away will be good game for him given how they play and they wanted him in the summer. I assume he won't be around for Wolves match if Argentina call him up again.
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It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
Really isn't. It shows how strong the rest of the squad is. In any case though, despite Emi B costing £40m-ish ... how many of our players would you turn down that money for? I'd argue we've for a number of players above that price bracket:
- Martinez
- Mings
- McGinn
- Watkins
- Konsa
All of those, I'd be particularly unhappy if we accepted a £40m bid for. We've also got a second batch of players who are approaching that level:
- Emi B (obvs)
- Ings is about £30m
- Dougie Luiz must be over £30m now surely?
- Bailey is around that figure too
- Sanson would've been £35m ish until the French League had a car crash
- Traore is in a similar boat, would've been £25m+
- Cash & Targett must be approaching that £30m-£40m bracket, if they're not already in it
- Jacob Ramsey isn't there yet, but could realistically be approaching that bracket come the end of the season if he maintains his form
We're in a weird place, for ourselves anyway, that we've got a number of players in the squad who we couldn't afford if they were playing for another Premier League club. Credit to the coaching & scouting staff for putting us there.
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Bit of a controversial view, but if also place El Ghazi at the bottom end of that bracket. I'd put it this way. £20m isn't going to get you a player with El Goalzi's stats who's got 3 years of PL experience under his belt and still has his prime years (just about) ahead of him. I'm saying he's £25m at least, but given the prices quoted for Smith-Rowe and McNeill, I think £30m+ isn't that outlandish.
I like Emi B, and as Footy said it wouldn't surprise me if he ended the season with better stats for us then Joe had, not least because there whole squad is stronger.
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I can't see Smith moving away from the 3-5-2 any time soon, and as it stands Buendia and to be fair Bailey don't fit readily into that system as starters. If we do revert to 4-3-3 for the easier looking games like Wolves at home, then I can see Bailey starting but not Buendia. The midfield three of McGinn, Luiz and Ramsey looks set in stone at the moment. But anyway it's all good. £30m players not being guaranteed a start, just the sign of a big team on the up.
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It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
Don't make the mistake of equating "record signing" with "most valuable player" or even "best player". Because that's not how it works. It's just a reflection of the market at the point we acquired them. I would say we've got a few players who are now worth a bit more than Buendia, it's just we signed them before they reached their current level.
Little Emi is a great addition to our squad, and I'm confident he will prove his worth over the season and beyond, but it's not even remotely worrying he's not an automatic starter. Very few players in our squad actually are. It would be a more worrying reflection of the quality of our squad if he WAS an automatic starter.
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It worrying when your record signing isn’t thought of as an automatic starter
Really isn't. It shows how strong the rest of the squad is. In any case though, despite Emi B costing £40m-ish ... how many of our players would you turn down that money for? I'd argue we've for a number of players above that price bracket:
- Martinez
- Mings
- McGinn
- Watkins
- Konsa
All of those, I'd be particularly unhappy if we accepted a £40m bid for. We've also got a second batch of players who are approaching that level:
- Emi B (obvs)
- Ings is about £30m
- Dougie Luiz must be over £30m now surely?
- Bailey is around that figure too
- Sanson would've been £35m ish until the French League had a car crash
- Traore is in a similar boat, would've been £25m+
- Cash & Targett must be approaching that £30m-£40m bracket, if they're not already in it
- Jacob Ramsey isn't there yet, but could realistically be approaching that bracket come the end of the season if he maintains his form
We're in a weird place, for ourselves anyway, that we've got a number of players in the squad who we couldn't afford if they were playing for another Premier League club. Credit to the coaching & scouting staff for putting us there.
Good post and illustrates that we are growing as a club.
A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
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A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
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A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
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A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
We want top 4 players? We want players who can win us FA cup or europa league in future?
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A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
I reckon West Ham will eventually demonstrate why. The squad needs to be bigger to ensure you’re no knackered for the league games.
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A nice problem to have but it is hard to see where/how we can improve next as there’s few obvious weaknesses and the next level of player is unlikely to consider us (yet).
Which is precisely why Smith's telling the players that we can beat anyone in the league.
If this group gel the way it looks like they might be able to, top 6 is absolutely realistic. And if we qualify for Europe then a whole different level of player will take an interest in us.
Which then begs the question, surely, that we already have top 6 players, why do we need new ones?
We want top 4 players? We want players who can win us FA cup or europa league in future?
Exactly. The Premier League champions went out and (over)paid £100m for a player they didn't really need over the summer just gone.
Whether it's to stop your competitors getting them, or to mean that if your current £100m player gets injured, you can bring another one in, a top 6 side now isn't going to be enough to either get us in to the Champions League any time soon, win anything, or even keep us in the top 6 unless we continue to invest in better players.
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Desn Smith pre Wolves
"We know the qualities that he gives us we see it in training and it won’t be long until he’s back in the team."
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One positive from today - much more like Emi well done.
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He did OK with some nice passes. Still far too weak on the ball though.
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I thought he did ok but I do not think the midfield 3 looked balanced with him Luiz and SJM
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Played well on and off the ball. Few killer passes nice touches, finds space and seems to run hard and nip in now and again.
W
Once he went off any semblance of attacking evaporated.
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He should be playing on the right, not centrally.
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He signalled to the bench to come off…I thought he played well but if he felt he needed to come off it’s hardly an error by Dean is it?!
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He signalled to the bench to come off…I thought he played well but if he felt he needed to come off it’s hardly an error by Dean is it?!
Why on earth was he asking to come off? He wasn't injured, and he hasn't been away on international duty.
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I’m not convinced by him at all. Some nice touches but he’s a luxury in a team still trying to find our feet
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Nah I don’t think he’s a luxury. He’s someone that can find a pass, we need that.
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I thought he was very decent, also he's tenacious and tracks back.
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He should be playing on the right, not centrally.
Bailey will play there and Traore also prefers that side so think he'll stay centrally tbh.
I've given him stick but thought he was our MOTM today so hopefully can build on this performance.
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He signalled to the bench to come off…I thought he played well but if he felt he needed to come off it’s hardly an error by Dean is it?!
Why on earth was he asking to come off? He wasn't injured, and he hasn't been away on international duty.
You would probably be best asking him..I just saw him signal..
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If I had an honest choice would claim my money back and make a much more clever signing in the January window.
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Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
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Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Yeah thought it was an encouraging performance considering it was his first start for a while.
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His work rate was superb yesterday. And almost proceed a goal for Ings with a superb pass. Good save by the dog head gk.
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He's improving and will get better.
There were some positive signs to his display yesterday.
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Buendia was excellent in the first half - his movement and eye for a pass were sublime.
Second half, he spent more time chasing the ball and we saw less of what he's really good at. When Bailey is playing Buendia will have a field day.
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Buendia was excellent in the first half - his movement and eye for a pass were sublime.
Second half, he spent more time chasing the ball and we saw less of what he's really good at. When Bailey is playing Buendia will have a field day.
So will Ollie hopefully, that's basically why we signed them both.
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Think the warranty period is finished anyway, they won’t give us a refund now.
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
Yep. We don't have to start every player every game and we need to get out the mindset that Watkins and Ings are undroppable.
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He is going to be a star.
You can just see it.
He also has a bit of vim about him too.
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
Yep. We don't have to start every player every game and we need to get out the mindset that Watkins and Ings are undroppable.
Agreed. I wonder if Dean is still haunted by Joe and Barkley's sulking antics at being subbed last season?
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
With the way Watkins is playing - his speed of thought and action seem way off last season - would it not be Ings in the starting berth?
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
With the way Watkins is playing - his speed of thought and action seem way off last season - would it not be Ings in the starting berth?
yep.
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He needs players like Bailey, Traore & Sanson, players of similar technical ability around him.
Like the team as a whole his season hasn't really started yet.
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Buendia right, Watkins central, Bailey left is our best front 3. Ings is a very good striker, but limits the way you play going forward. He has to fight it out with Watkins for me.
This.
Yep. We don't have to start every player every game and we need to get out the mindset that Watkins and Ings are undroppable.
Agreed. I wonder if Dean is still haunted by Joe and Barkley's sulking antics at being subbed last season?
If anything Deano let the Barkley situation develop a few games too long. Could be guilty of the same when it comes to Ings/Watkins (and more Watkins if we are honest). Watkins strikes me as a top pro anyway and likely would react in the right way.
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Watkins strikes me as a top pro anyway and likely would react in the right way.
I actually feel the opposite - especially now he has played for England. I think if dropped ( and i would keep Ings in the team as on current form is significantly playing better than Ollie) then it would not be long before usual bullshit players come out with such as "he has to consider his England place" and look to move and i imagine his preferred place would be North London.
A shadow of the player he was last season
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Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Thought he was a bit of a mixed bag on Saturday to be totally honest Ads. I was in the top of the North Stand, so could see that his movement was good in the first half and he found some pockets of space in between their midfield and defence. Thought he also played some nice balls that led to us getting chances, particularly the one for Ings towards the end of the half.
I did think, however, that he was in traffic in central areas he looked a little slow and lightweight at times. He was eased off the ball a few times and gave the ball away a few too many times. That said, he is still finding his feet and getting up to speed at the moment, so those areas may improve over the coming weeks.
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I think he had his best five minutes of the game just before he was taken off. Easy in hindsight, but taking him off was a mistake. In lieu of Bailey or Traore, his removal left us devoid of creative spark and allowed Wolves to attack with impunity.
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I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
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Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Thought he was a bit of a mixed bag on Saturday to be totally honest Ads. I was in the top of the North Stand, so could see that his movement was good in the first half and he found some pockets of space in between their midfield and defence. Thought he also played some nice balls that led to us getting chances, particularly the one for Ings towards the end of the half.
I did think, however, that he was in traffic in central areas he looked a little slow and lightweight at times. He was eased off the ball a few times and gave the ball away a few too many times. That said, he is still finding his feet and getting up to speed at the moment, so those areas may improve over the coming weeks.
He is not the quickest , but neither was David Silva , he has quick feet and works hard , i thought it was promising
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I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
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I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
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I thought he was great on Saturday. He worked his bollocks off and won the ball back a few times as well.
I'm almost more encouraged by the slower start he's made, as players that start like a house on fire with us seem to then fizzle out quickly.
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I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
Someone mentioned he'd asked to come off, but I've no idea whether that's right or not. I hope he's not injured.
I like him and can only see him getting better. He's a very clever player and fights hard too.
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I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
Someone mentioned he'd asked to come off, but I've no idea whether that's right or not. I hope he's not injured.
I like him and can only see him getting better. He's a very clever player and fights hard too.
It was Smith that mentioned it.
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I'm still puzzled as to why he was so knackered after 70 minutes. Yes he appeared to put a decent shift in, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Maybe it was the emotional side of it. Packed Villa Park, 2-0 up, playing well. Hadn't been fully fit and trying to catch up?
Do we actually know why he was subbed? I remember he'd just won the ball back in midfield with his pressing, so he certainly didn't look 'knackered' to me. Could it have been tactical? Didn't I see someone say he'd motioned to the bench to come off so maybe he felt something?
Someone mentioned he'd asked to come off, but I've no idea whether that's right or not. I hope he's not injured.
I like him and can only see him getting better. He's a very clever player and fights hard too.
He 100% did. He turned to the bench, waved and did the twirly fingers thing to mean substitution.
At the time I thought he must've been injured but then he spent the next two minutes while Ramsey was getting stripped sprinting around the pitch showing no sign of any issues.
It was quite strange.
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So, just to debunk Smith's previous assertion that players don't ask to come off from being tired/exhausted (whatever it was he said).....!
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Bizarre opinion considering he was very bright yesterday.
Thought he was a bit of a mixed bag on Saturday to be totally honest Ads. I was in the top of the North Stand, so could see that his movement was good in the first half and he found some pockets of space in between their midfield and defence. Thought he also played some nice balls that led to us getting chances, particularly the one for Ings towards the end of the half.
I did think, however, that he was in traffic in central areas he looked a little slow and lightweight at times. He was eased off the ball a few times and gave the ball away a few too many times. That said, he is still finding his feet and getting up to speed at the moment, so those areas may improve over the coming weeks.
He is not the quickest , but neither was David Silva , he has quick feet and works hard , i thought it was promising
As I said above, early days yet so hard to make any real judgement at this point. From where I was sat, you could see he worked hard off the ball to get into space and played some nice balls when in possession.
The thing with the likes of Silva are that although they are not the quickest, they just seem to have a way of getting away from opposition players. Just thought that Buendia struggled to do that on Saturday and was caught and eased off the ball a little too easily at times. Might be that he is still finding his sharpness.
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Smith on Emi Buendia: "We know the qualities that he’s got, the pass that he put through for Danny Ings in the first half vs Wolves is why he attracted us so much. There is a lot more to come and he will be the first to say that."
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Given him the benefit of the doubt so far this season. He ain’t very good let’s face it.
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Said it on match thread but he reminds me of N'zogbia a bit.
Worth noting with the penalty we had Free kick on edge of box and he just floats it into Ramsdale's arms.
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Said it on match thread but he reminds me of N'zogbia a bit.
Worth noting with the penalty we had Free kick on edge of box and he just floats it into Ramsdale's arms.
More like a Gil for me. Clearly talented, but just far too lightweight.
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Said it on match thread but he reminds me of N'zogbia a bit.
Worth noting with the penalty we had Free kick on edge of box and he just floats it into Ramsdale's arms.
More like a Gil for me. Clearly talented, but just far too lightweight.
Yeah that's fair enough. Gil only cost 2m or so though!
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He's fucking woeful. Means we have even less pace and physicality in the side. Rather have Ramsey in there.
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I was concerned the moment he turned up and got his arse fed to him by Watkins on the bleep test
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He'll be fine when we play him in position.
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He'll be fine when we play him in position.
Let’s hope they put us in charge instead of Smith then!
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He'll be fine when we play him in position.
Trouble is just saying play him wide right...Bailey is simply better there aswell and far more proven at top level than Buendia.
So you play one on left then and it completely unbalances things, even more so if DS can't bare to leave out one of the CFs.
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He looks slow and weak, nothing like a £40m ish player
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£50 million spunked on him and Sanson. Never a better time for the Academy to start showing some return on investment .
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Very poor today, but he's only started about 5 or 6 games, still too early to judge him.
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It is and he’s never played in his correct position.
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Gary Neville has just stated the obvious that he’s not working centrally. He can see it, we can see it, why can’t Smith see it?
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He is a good player. You can also see he really gives a shit too.
He will be great when he is played in his natural position in a balanced team - not the present car crash.
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Thought he played well against Wolves but was poor tonight and is very light weight. Looking like Gil mk2
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He is a good player. You can also see he really gives a shit too.
He will be great when he is played in his natural position in a balanced team - not the present car crash.
He's obviously a very talented player and not his fault the team is a shambles
But he seems half a yard short at the moment...and that surprises me... As a result he is struggling with his first touch, struggling to shield and protect the ball....a bit worrying really
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He's tiny and he's not very quick, so playing him centrally is ridiculous. He's clearly got skill though, can pick a pass, and has quick feet. Stick him where he played for Norwich, otherwise what was the point in buying him? This 5-3-2 has literally brought the best out of absolutely nobody.
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The main problem is that he’s not very good - certainly not a 1/3rd of Joe
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We buy Traore, EL Ghazi, Trezeguet, Bailey and Buendia. All wide players, for the best part of £100m. Then pick a formation where we play with no wingers and use full backs pushed forward, neither of who can beat a man or cross the fucking road.
It's brain dead stuff from Smith at the moment.
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He'll be fine when we play him in position.
Let’s hope they put us in charge instead of Smith then!
We'd do a better job than that waster Ads did, I know that much.
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Near the start of this thread I said I was worried about him handling the physical side of the league and that was as a winger, in central midfield he is totally lost. The worst thing is that this could easily turn the fans against him and it's not his fault, his choices, right now, are to sit in the pocket of a big bastard like Partey or sit on the bench because we've spent something like £80m on wingers over the last 2 summers and then decided to play without them.
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The main problem is that he’s not very good - certainly not a 1/3rd of Joe
Nonsense
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He's nowhere near the class of Grealish. Physically, speed wise, ability on the ball, control, infact line up every single asset and Grealish is head and shoulders above Buendia. Which isn't to say he's a bad player, he isn't, but we've a massive Grealish shaped hole in the side at the moment and playing this guy Number 10 isn't going to start filling it in.
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I’m not sure Jack was an amazing no.10 either.
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I assumed that Buendia was going to play on the right of Watkins, with Bailey on the left. I suppose I reckoned without Smith feeling that he's got to play both Ings and Watkins though.
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Maybe just maybe play him in his best role of wide right 🤷🏻♂️
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I assumed that Buendia was going to play on the right of Watkins, with Bailey on the left. I suppose I reckoned without Smith feeling that he's got to play both Ings and Watkins though.
Yep, Bailey, Watkins, Buendia as a 3 with Ings and Traore rotating in and the likes of AEG, JPB and Davis getting the odd game was my thinking in the summer, replace Davis with Archer and it's still the best way to set us up right now. I'd still want to pick and choose games to put Buendia on the bench (I wouldn't play him against Burnley for example) but at least on the right he won't come up against guys a foot taller, 4-5 stone heavier and quicker than him.
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Maybe just maybe play him in his best role of wide right 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, he is a right sided player who can cut in from the left. Have a look at his left footed shot at goal tonight.
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Would rather just play Bailey wide right tbh.
Not sure what we do on the left, suspect we'll just put Ollie there but he's not really playing well enough to justify a starting place.
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Bailey played well on the left against Everton??????
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It’s way too early to right him off.
Comparisons to Gil are laughable
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It’s way too early to right him off.
Comparisons to Gil are laughable
Not at the moment they're not. We can't go off anything else until Smith plays him in his correct position, and so far playing centrally, he looks weak and gets bullied off the ball constantly.
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It’s way too early to right him off.
Comparisons to Gil are laughable
Not at the moment they're not. We can't go off anything else until Smith plays him in his correct position, and so far playing centrally, he looks weak and gets bullied off the ball constantly.
It's unlike you not to give a player time.
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Not his fault but at 40 million notes you would expect better.
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Not his fault but at 40 million notes you would expect better.
This season
Buendia 7 games 1 goal (423 minutes)
Grealish 7 games 1 goal 1 assist (588 minutes)
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Would rather just play Bailey wide right tbh.
Not sure what we do on the left, suspect we'll just put Ollie there but he's not really playing well enough to justify a starting place.
This is why we needed to buy an actual left winger in the summer. For all the money we got for Jack, signing a genuine replacement that could hold the ball and play a pass was something we should have been shooting and trying to find for the last year knowing he would likely go. Poor from the the club to not buy one. Even worse was not pushing harder for Benrahma last summer because he could have stepped in there nicely.
Anyhow, play Bailey left and Buendia right for a few games, get Ramsey in the midfield 3 and drop Ings. Watkins moves more. See how it goes.
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Near the start of this thread I said I was worried about him handling the physical side of the league and that was as a winger, in central midfield he is totally lost. The worst thing is that this could easily turn the fans against him and it's not his fault, his choices, right now, are to sit in the pocket of a big bastard like Partey or sit on the bench because we've spent something like £80m on wingers over the last 2 summers and then decided to play without them.
This, yes. There are not many players you see who is so easy to just bump off the ball. It's just astonishing. But he is clearly not helped by Smith's incomprehensible formation choice so I will try to keep an open mind.
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We got ripped off. 40m for a very average player that is not consistent at all.
Hugely disappointing signing so far for me
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He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
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He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
Yep it’s baffling. You wouldn’t sign Kante and play him centre half would you?
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He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
Yep it’s baffling. You wouldn’t sign Kante and play him centre half would you?
Martin O'Neill would.
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Would rather just play Bailey wide right tbh.
Not sure what we do on the left, suspect we'll just put Ollie there but he's not really playing well enough to justify a starting place.
This is why we needed to buy an actual left winger in the summer. For all the money we got for Jack, signing a genuine replacement that could hold the ball and play a pass was something we should have been shooting and trying to find for the last year knowing he would likely go. Poor from the the club to not buy one. Even worse was not pushing harder for Benrahma last summer because he could have stepped in there nicely.
Anyhow, play Bailey left and Buendia right for a few games, get Ramsey in the midfield 3 and drop Ings. Watkins moves more. See how it goes.
Yep. Could see last night exactly why we targeted Smith Rowe as a replacement for you know who. Way he glided in from the left and picked space with ease totally did us.
If we'd had him and then Buendia/Bailey for right side we'd look far more balanced.
Currently for left side the options are out of form Ollie who's never really played there in prem, El Ghazi with all his pros and cons and JPB who's young and untested.
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If it's a straight choice between Buendia and Ramsey, it has to be Ramsey right now. Not writing Buendia off but tell him to fight for his place and justify it when he gets a chance. Sanson is another option too.
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He's a wide player. Play him wide or not at all.
Yep it’s baffling. You wouldn’t sign Kante and play him centre half would you?
Martin O'Neill would.
Nah, he'd have played him right back.
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If it's a straight choice between Buendia and Ramsey, it has to be Ramsey right now. Not writing Buendia off but tell him to fight for his place and justify it when he gets a chance. Sanson is another option too.
But that’s the point it shouldn’t be a straight choice - Buendia isn’t a central player.
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Good championship player struggling to see what he is bringing to our team
Needs to work on his fitness, could be another player who is just at the club for the money
I bet Norwich can’t believe that they duped us for £38 million
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Good championship player struggling to see what he is bringing to our team
Needs to work on his fitness, could be another player who is just at the club for the money
I bet Norwich can’t believe that they duped us for £38 million
He's not been great so far but he scored a very good goal for us earlier in the season and looked good last week before he came off. How about giving him some time before saying we were duped?
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I'm not sure how you come to ridiculous conclusions on a player when you've not had the chance to watch him play in his position yet.
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We buy Traore, EL Ghazi, Trezeguet, Bailey and Buendia. All wide players, for the best part of £100m. Then pick a formation where we play with no wingers and use full backs pushed forward, neither of who can beat a man or cross the fucking road.
It's brain dead stuff from Smith at the moment.
Absolutely. When you think about it, it's incredible.
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Yeah, he needs to go out wide. Not effective as a No.10
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The main problem is that he’s not very good - certainly not a 1/3rd of Joe
Nonsense
Which bit?
He's shown nothing so far.
He doesn't look like one the three players that were supposedly replacing Joe.
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I'm hesitant to be too hard on him because he's been played out of position in a system the whole side has been struggling with, which doesn't suit most of our attacking players. The only one it benefited was Cash to be honest, and that was initially. Because now he's finding the downside...he's overworked and unsupported defensively, meanwhile our LCB and RCB regularly look lost in whether to stick or twist. Too many cooks spoiling the broth in central defence.
If we can get back to an attack system and play our widemen, we might start seeing some hitting form. There are flashes from Emi2, but the manager has certainly made things harder.
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Good championship player struggling to see what he is bringing to our team
Needs to work on his fitness, could be another player who is just at the club for the money
I bet Norwich can’t believe that they duped us for £38 million
9 games, inane.
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For £40 odd million, he should be playing better irrespective of position. End of .
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For £40 odd million, he should be playing better irrespective of position. End of .
He's getting more expensive by the week!
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Good point Ad, call it 30m 😂, my bad
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He hasn't been great but some people are desperate to jump down his throat.
A number of times yesterday he would battle to win the ball, not have a single Villa player anywhere near due to our shite formation and, surrounded by Arsenal players, lose the ball, as you might expect.
Cue the match thread and there would be loads of "FFS, Buendia"/"£40 million for that shit"/"get rid" hysterical overreaction posts on the match thread. Watkins and Ings lost possession more often and didn't face the same criticism. Whenever we have a skilful player certain sections of our support are desperate for them to fail, and then use any misplaced pass or tackle by the latest scapegoat as confirmation bias to back up their opinion.
Look at all the tedious "all fart, no shit" posts on the Grealish thread before loads of our fans conveniently forgot that they'd written him off, and people who used to moan like fuck about Ashley Young when he was easily one of the most exciting players in Europe.
Some of our fans would only be happy if we had a team full of Pulisite players who can run all day but never look like doing anything exciting with the ball.
Not that I'm saying he played well, he didn't. But those writing him off already and racing to be the most offended by every less than stellar touch of the ball are plain weird.
Anyway, he will, eventually, play in his proper position and will play well for us. Some of those who have already written him off will take longer than others to admit it.
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He has talent and an eye for a pass, some of his touches are lovely.
He has not fully settled yet but hardly his fault being played out of position.
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Do you honestly believe certain sections of our support are desperate for our record signing to fail??
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Do you honestly believe certain sections of our support are desperate for our record signing to fail??
Judging by some of the comments on here and what I overheard last week at the ground against Wolves, yes.
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I think it's more a case of expecting more from him, or to hit the ground running due to how much he cost, as he's meant to be the finished product, not one for the future.
If he was an 18 year old from the academy he'd get much more slack, but I still think you'd get a lot of comments that he currently doesn't look up to starting regularly for the first team, needs to bulk up and be stronger, could do with going out on loan etc.
If you knew very little about football and had to guess between him and Ramsey which player was our record signing and which was a youngster coming through the ranks, you'd be hard pushed to pick.
For the record, I would very much like him not to fail. Not that that should ever have to be said about one of our players. But I also haven't been overly impressed with what I've seen from him so far, plenty of misplaced 10 yard passes. I'd agree that he's not being played in his favourite position or the position he's best suited to, and these things aren't his fault, but even so it hasn't been the most promising start.
If the work experience kid doesn't know how to do a vlookup you'd calmly show him, if the IT manager didn't know how to do it you'd call him a useless ******. So, to sum up, Buendia needs to brush up on MS office quick smart or get the fuck out of VP.
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His stats for assists and for tackling and tracking back were great before he joined us. I think playing on the right that is good but playing in a midfield 3 isn't his strength at all. Ratboy was the same.
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His stats for assists and for tackling and tracking back were great before he joined us. I think playing on the right that is good but playing in a midfield 3 isn't his strength at all. Ratboy was the same.
It just seems remarkably obvious. Out wide, you just need your winger/wide forward to assist with giving the full back a bit of support. In the middle, you’re dealing with brick shithouse defensive midfielders. I can’t imagine that he’d be any less supportive on the wing than Traore, so why not play him in the position he excelled in for the club you bought him from?
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His stats for assists and for tackling and tracking back were great before he joined us. I think playing on the right that is good but playing in a midfield 3 isn't his strength at all. Ratboy was the same.
It just seems remarkably obvious. Out wide, you just need your winger/wide forward to assist with giving the full back a bit of support. In the middle, you’re dealing with brick shithouse defensive midfielders. I can’t imagine that he’d be any less supportive on the wing than Traore, so why not play him in the position he excelled in for the club you bought him from?
As he'd have to drop Ollie (deservedly too as he's been poor) and he lacks the courage or authority to do that.
Our front 3 against West Ham ought to be Buendia right, Bailey left and Ings through the middle. It ought to be McGinn and Sanson as a double pivot (the later against Chelsea looked head and shoulders the best midfielder on a pitch that included Kante) to compete with their running and let Dougie sit.
Then against Southampton to combat the 4222 you'd want Ollie to press wide and mix it up accordingly.
Smith is too stubborn to kill his darlings.
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I think Sanson will be on the naughty step with Engels and Guilbert from now on, before a loan move away in January "to work on his fitness". The footballer's equivalent of an unwanted dog for Christmas "going to live on a farm."
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I really hope they can resolve it. Understand the frustration and let him loose with it. He's a lot better than the other 2 and I suspect much better with the ball than McGinn. We need to play with a 3 and he deserves a go.
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I think Sanson will be on the naughty step with Engels and Guilbert from now on, before a loan move away in January "to work on his fitness". The footballer's equivalent of an unwanted dog for Christmas "going to live on a farm."
it will be like he never existed.
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Who?
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Who?
Can’t remember
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He made a good contribution for the goal today, but unfortunately there was not much else.
His hasty exit and the look of thunder on his face as he left the pitch after being subbed also suggested all was not well.
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I don’t fucking blame him. If I was taken off before Young I’d be furious.
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He made a good contribution for the goal today, but unfortunately there was not much else.
His hasty exit and the look of thunder on his face as he left the pitch after being subbed also suggested all was not well.
Yes it was a nice assist, but other than that it was much of the same. Getting knocked off the ball or giving it away cheaply. So far, a waste of money. Looks like a lower league player doing his best.
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He seems to lack pace and strength on the ball
At the moment he is not alone
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He lacks a midfield willing to support him.
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He’d be fine if the midfield actually did its job.
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There are glimpses of a player in him. In the right system and shape I think he will come good for us.
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There are glimpses of a player in him. In the right system and shape I think he will come good for us.
He'd probably be OK in a team like West Ham with two very, very good central midfielders. Even then though, I'd rather see a proper wide player (like Bowen.)
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For the money we've paid you'd want more than someone that needs inch perfect conditions to be effective.
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Not picking him out for yesterday but to me he looks like he could walk back into that Norwich side, win POTY and they'd still be bottom.. Seems a completely peripheral figure with very little lasting influence on the game. Early days i guess but I think we could have bought a dud at least for what we paid for him.
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I don’t want to criticise him at the moment. Obviously I hope he’s as good as what some think. I’m very much jury out. He needs a few more games.
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At least he got his first assist yesterday. But he was back in his favoured position and the game was passing him by I thought for most of the first half. Needs to do a hell of a lot more on the pitch and storming off down the tunnel is the last thing Smith needs right now from his record signing.
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At least he did not look a twat taking throw in's . He was not the worse player but at the moment the whole team is shite , thou I though Cash put a shift in . We need to sort that midfield out , that's not helping him at all , SJM looked hopeless too and don't mention Young
Too early to write off .
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At least he did not look a twat taking throw in's . He was not the worse player but at the moment the whole team is shite , thou I though Cash put a shift in . We need to sort that midfield out , that's not helping him at all , SJM looked hopeless too and don't mention Young
Too early to write off .
We almost need that cash energy in midfield
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Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
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Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
We were completely dominated in central midfield, hard for the wide players to get into the game under those circumstances.
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Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
We were completely dominated in central midfield, hard for the wide players to get into the game under those circumstances.
Yeah, my reading of his drifting in field was that our midfield was dropping deep, so he felt he needed to come in field to try to link up. He hasn’t hugely impressed so far, but I still believe there is a good player there but we just aren’t using him in the best way.
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Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
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Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
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Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
I guess we were looking at his stats, including goals and assists over the past seasons.
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Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
I guess we were looking at his stats, including goals and assists over the past seasons.
Shame we didn't look at where he played to achieve those goals and assists.
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Sadly, I think he’s too lightweight in a side that is too lightweight. If we had more physicality it might free him up whether on the right or more centrally, to play his own game. Currently, he has no protection and just seems a really lightweight player who we have paid massively over the odds for. That’s today, but perhaps if we address the DCM position he might come good. Horses for courses and all that.
he definitely needs to work on his core strength so he's not pushed off the ball so easily, it was my concern when we were first linked with him and I was surprised that so few people saw it.
I guess we were looking at his stats, including goals and assists over the past seasons.
Of course, his stats were great and I do think there's the potential for him to be a fantastic player, but he's always looked like the physical side was a challenge.
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Was sat in the North Stand on Sunday and what I noticed, was although he was lined up on the right, he kept drifting into central positions when we had the ball. I understand that it is good to have different options, but it left us with no real outlet on the right hand side at times.
Don't want to be too harsh, but his assist aside, I thought both him and Bailey offered very little on Sunday and we will need a lot more from them going forward.
We were completely dominated in central midfield, hard for the wide players to get into the game under those circumstances.
True Paul, but it was happening when we had the ball. Don't know if it was something he had been told to do or if it was something he took on himself and he was looking for the ball. Not necessarily a criticism, but it just left us a bit unbalanced at times.
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Played in his natural position and created a goal. Tricky stuff this football lark.
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And looked like in a few games could forge an understanding with Cash, and grow in confidence. He's a very talented footballer, just needs a run in the right position.
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Seems like he just went for a shit, as he came back to sit on the bench.
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The evil bastard.
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Seems like he just went for a shit, as he came back to sit on the bench.
If he can leap a barrier like he did whilst needing a shit he's a better man than I'll ever be.
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At least he did not look a twat taking throw in's . He was not the worse player but at the moment the whole team is shite , thou I though Cash put a shift in . We need to sort that midfield out , that's not helping him at all , SJM looked hopeless too and don't mention Young
Too early to write off .
You clearly didnt see some of his corners then. League one level stuff. Have not been impressed at all.
When we signed ashley young on his first stint you could see the quality. Buendia looks lightweight and average so far. Struggling at this level. We paid too much for him in my opinion
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The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
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The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
You don't see Fernandes ending up being muscled off the ball the majority of the times he receives the ball like Buendia though. Plus he must be 3 inches taller. Buendia really does stand out as being very short. And yeah I know, Messi etc.
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It could well be that he can't Jack it at this level. I just think it's unfair to judge him in a team so obviously lacking an atyacking plan or midfield in general.
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It could well be that he can't Jack it at this level. I just think it's unfair to judge him in a team so obviously lacking an atyacking plan or midfield in general.
He didn't do badly last time he played at this level.
We had one player last year that could hold the ball better than anyone, that gave us time to develop the play, get players forward etc. He's gone and frankly there's nobody else like him.
There's no point hoping Buendia or Bailey will do that job because they are different players. We haven't adapted a new style yet. And we need to.
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That's a shrewd point about Jack's ball-carrying Drummond. The idea that we replace him with three attackers missed the mark a bit, as he was also our most important defensive player for his ability to hold onto the thing, drag it upfield with him or get kicked in the attempt. All of which suggests that perhaps Dean and Johan didn't quite understand him as a player even while in the team, let alone how to compensate for his departure.
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And looked like in a few games could forge an understanding with Cash, and grow in confidence. He's a very talented footballer, just needs a run in the right position.
Yep he’ll be fine if we play him right.
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That's a shrewd point about Jack's ball-carrying Drummond. The idea that we replace him with three attackers missed the mark a bit, as he was also our most important defensive player for his ability to hold onto the thing, drag it upfield with him or get kicked in the attempt. All of which suggests that perhaps Dean and Johan didn't quite understand him as a player even while in the team, let alone how to compensate for his departure.
There isn’t anyone like him though is there. Smith made the precise point that they knew they couldn’t replace him with one player so they bought three who could collectively offer the same qualities. We haven’t yet had the luxury of them all being available to test the theory.
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Sure, but my point is that thinking of replacing him just in the final third was a mistake. We're so clearly lacking stickability in midfield, especially without Doug.
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We always knew we could release pressure and get upfield by getting it to Ratboy. Bailey looks like he can go on a run, but it's not the same type of play as his brief is clearly to make attacking things happen.
How many times did we gain a free-kick in and around the halfway line so that we could reset and start again. I'd argue McGinn is our best outlet for that as he shields with his arse.
Buendia is brilliant at finding a pass, in tight spaces. I'm looking forward to seeing how that works with Watkins and Bailey finding them.
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The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
Its not a "obsession" its how it is. Being so weak and getting over powered on the ball and losing various battlesin the middle.
He is small and looks very weak.
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Sure, but my point is that thinking of replacing him just in the final third was a mistake. We're so clearly lacking stickability in midfield, especially without Doug.
It feels like Smith has given up trying to play through midfield and break the press as the back four, taking into account they are not that comfortable on the ball anyway, simply have no-one to pass to and have resorted to hitting this long ball.
Grealish was unique in helping us play that progressive football and Smith has never resolved the problem when he’s not playing.
We’ve ended up being a less effective Burnley. Buendia is suffering more than most with the lack of identity we have at present.
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Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
Yes: I was singularly unimpressed with Bailey, until I reflected that he had received no decent ball, seemed to have been told to stay out wide (where it was very easy to be marked) and nothing for him to show his pace and close control on the move.
Regarding Buendia, I'm in the wait-and-see camp: I think he is highly-skilled and has shown over the last 3 seasons that he can do it. He needs to be playing in front of a stronger midfield.
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Sure, but my point is that thinking of replacing him just in the final third was a mistake. We're so clearly lacking stickability in midfield, especially without Doug.
Good point and it's also why so many knew we desperately needed a DCM.
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I remember when Angel seemed not to be clicking and it seemed to me that he was just on a different page at times, he was seeing runs and balls that his teammates didn't (barring I thought Lee Hendrie). I hope that doesn't arise with Buendia. He has and can play some really intricate passes and thread balls through gaps that you don't think are there. Grealish was similar in that regard, which is why I had such high hopes for his partnership with Barkley who is similar.
Buendia looks a bit lost at times as there just isn't the movement for him to make the most of. Watkins playing closer to him would help.
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That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.
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The obsession with him being 'lightweight', do you think someone like Bruno Fernandes is winning many arm wrestles against defensive mids and centre backs?
Against West Ham, Bailey and Buendia would constantly receive the ball racing their own goal, because there's absolutely no coordination in midfield and no plan for building from the back. It's as unfair to judge wide attackers on that as it is to judge Watkins getting the ball gently chipped to his hair all evening.
I don't think it's an obsession, certainly not from my point, it's more about setting expectations of what he's going to do.
Loads of people on here in the summer talked about him playing at 10 and I didn't like the idea because the thought of him coming up against players like Bissouma, Rice, etc didn't fill me with confidence. On the wing it's less of a problems but he still needs to find out where he fits in a team like ours. My biggest frustration with Smith is that all the fucking about with the formation means that we're over a quarter of the way into the season and the weekend was the first time that Buendia played genuniely on the wing for a prolonged period. He still struggled because we lost the midfield battle but there were glimpses of his strengths, especially with the assist.
He's one of a few players in the team right now that are struggling because Smith and coaches don't seem to know how to play to highlight their strengths instead of their weaknesses.
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That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.
And his record with Norwich was what prompted us to sign him which suggests that if he can get the right relationship with his teammates he could prosper.
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Yes and importantly he did well the last time they were in the Premier League.
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That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.
And his record with Norwich was what prompted us to sign him which suggests that if he can get the right relationship with his teammates he could prosper.
Absolutely. I think we've seen glimpses of it, I just hope we click as a unit (i.e. midfield) and he can prosper. That assist on Sunday was great, his turn and finish v Brentford was clever, it's not often you see a player turn away from goal rather than to it to take a shot. I'm convinced he'll do well.
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That’s a fair comparison Drummond. Main difference is that Buendia has been in English football for three years now.
And his record with Norwich was what prompted us to sign him which suggests that if he can get the right relationship with his teammates he could prosper.
Absolutely. I think we've seen glimpses of it, I just hope we click as a unit (i.e. midfield) and he can prosper. That assist on Sunday was great, his turn and finish v Brentford was clever, it's not often you see a player turn away from goal rather than to it to take a shot. I'm convinced he'll do well.
There was also a period in the first half vs Wolves where he was threading some great passes between the lines.
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One of the positives from tonight - I thought he was very good in the second half. Worked incredibly hard and showed skill as well.
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Not for me sorry. He’s not a 10.
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Very good in second half but our record signing shouldnt be going off with cramp after 70 mins. Our pre season was obviously a shambles.
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No he’s not, but we know that. He was still one of the main driving forces in the second half.
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I saw a stat tonight which indicated that in the 1st 20 mins he didn’t complete 1 successful pass.
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No but he was completely different in the second half and also did the midfield’s job for it.
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First half all of them were awful.
Second half he did alright I thought.
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He was mediocre first half but much better second half. No surprise our second half onslaught petered out when he went off. I do think if ever we could get him and Bailey to play well in the same match, we'd be very exciting to watch. Unfortunately we might already be relegated when that happens on current form.
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Aye. Gets marks for actually trying to create something and was up for it 2nd half. Linked up with Watkins well a couple of times. One of the best of a bad lot imo
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Another who may be better in another set up.
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Quality player in a shit storm.
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How is he not fit enough to play 90 minutes. I can’t get my head around how that’s been allowed to happen 11 games into a season.
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Can we all agree, once and for all, he's not a 10?
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He's carrying a hip injury.
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Can we all agree, once and for all, he's not a 10?
I think he can play both. Ideally, I want to see a combination of any two or three of him, Bailey, Traore and maybe Watkins (if Smith/AN Other ever relents and tries him wide) swapping places, switching from central to wide and generally driving defenders mad. Sounds fun to me.
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Bloody Welsh!
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Very good in second half but our record signing shouldnt be going off with cramp after 70 mins. Our pre season was obviously a shambles.
I'd be interested to see any stats on our players if anyone can get them, but I reckon he spent most of the game, particularly first half, chasing and harrying their defenders like a banshee...second half we were on the front foot more and he created umpteen openings, which I think is the reason we brought him to the club! It's the hardest I've seen him work and I think he did a fair bit more than most today!
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He showed 2 things in that game - 1 he can see and weight a forward pass better than anyone at the club, even in a crap first half he was the one that created 2-3 half chances and 2. that when he battles he is a very, very useful player. For 15 minutes second half he was the best player out there for us, and stepped up. See that more often much of the worry about him will go away.
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He showed 2 things in that game - 1 he can see and weight a forward pass better than anyone at the club, even in a crap first half he was the one that created 2-3 half chances and 2. that when he battles he is a very, very useful player. For 15 minutes second half he was the best player out there for us, and stepped up. See that more often much of the worry about him will go away.
agreed.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
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What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
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What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
I think its because our pressing is all over the place. I noticed yesterday that, especially in the first half, our lads were running around like dogs chasing a ball. When we then get some possession of the ball we are mentally and physically fucked from running around with no discipline.
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What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
Think a lot of people are thinking that. If you look at the difference from last season then the two big differences are ratboy leaving and the changeover in staff. We had a core of players who came up with the original coaches and prospered under them. Now we have the new guys, with new ideas, and maybe the players don't trust their methods or don't like their methods. The amount of times a change in coaches has caused a team to go backwards is well documented.
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What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
Think a lot of people are thinking that. If you look at the difference from last season then the two big differences are ratboy leaving and the changeover in staff. We had a core of players who came up with the original coaches and prospered under them. Now we have the new guys, with new ideas, and maybe the players don't trust their methods or don't like their methods. The amount of times a change in coaches has caused a team to go backwards is well documented.
If that’s the case I though we had people looking at the science and stats there, if so they really are not actually taking the new approach to task. We look absolutely shot.
The Man Utd game was the only time we’ve looked organised and quite dangerous. Even the Everton game was limited to a period of 20 minutes when it created the longest argument on H&V for years over formation. It was mighty fun watching that spell but absolutely nobody could agree what the formation was. I’m sure Smith didn’t really know either and we just had a spell with Bailey looking like the signing of century which changed the game completely.
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Well i'm not bigging up Terry, but he had the medals and career to make the likes of Mings listen, and they've all got to International level under his coaching. One of the best things about last season was the defence, now its probably the worse. The new guys, well they haven't got that status.
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What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
I think its because our pressing is all over the place. I noticed yesterday that, especially in the first half, our lads were running around like dogs chasing a ball. When we then get some possession of the ball we are mentally and physically fucked from running around with no discipline.
Buendia is a case in point. He spent most of last night chasing down backpasses to their goalie in the vain hope of a 1 in a 1,000 goalkeeping error.
He must've been knackered just from doing that and it had zero point.
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If he isn't fit enough to last at least 70 mins, then Smith shouldn't be picking him. What are they doing in training obviously isn't good enough if players are on their arse with over 20 mins to go.
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He's carrying an injury. He took some (painkillers?) at one point 2nd half.
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What’s happened with our fitness and running? I thought our stats last season were near the top and this season it’s right at the bottom?
Again is this another change in personal at the club having influence?
I think its because our pressing is all over the place. I noticed yesterday that, especially in the first half, our lads were running around like dogs chasing a ball. When we then get some possession of the ball we are mentally and physically fucked from running around with no discipline.
Buendia is a case in point. He spent most of last night chasing down backpasses to their goalie in the vain hope of a 1 in a 1,000 goalkeeping error.
He must've been knackered just from doing that and it had zero point.
Tbf, their centre back kept playing blind back passes and it almost cost them at one point.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Jesus, my 6 year old daughter could manage a more coherent argument than that. Ed Sheeran can sing and play guitar better than me, I still think he's shit.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Jesus, my 6 year old daughter could manage a more coherent argument than that. Ed Sheeran can sing and play guitar better than me, I still think he's shit.
Who pissed on your chips.
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If it's a straight choice between Buendia and Ramsey, it has to be Ramsey right now. Not writing Buendia off but tell him to fight for his place and justify it when he gets a chance. Sanson is another option too.
Sanson? Not according to DS. Declared fit on Thursday in the Press conference then left out completely. Sanson was great for Lille, Ings great at Southampton, Buendia great at Norwich. They come to Villa and look completely different and virtually ineffective.
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It's not though. Ramsey and Buendia should be in the side.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Jesus, my 6 year old daughter could manage a more coherent argument than that. Ed Sheeran can sing and play guitar better than me, I still think he's shit.
Who pissed on your chips.
Play nicely, children.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
Eh?
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.
I was actually having a pop at Flinstone, not Risso. Quote fuck up on my behalf.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.
I doubt very much indeed if he would be playing at this level if he has been pretending all along.
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Cramp after 70 minutes?! His lack of fitness is a disgrace.
Alright Flinstone
I'd wager a bet it's better than yours?
May be not but Risso is not pocketing circa £40K a week pretending to be a professional footballer.
No, he's pocketing that pretending to be an accountant! (Only kidding Risso!)
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Missed this at the time, but according to John Percy he had a bust up in the dressing room with Konsa after the West Ham game.
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Struggling bad. Dont know if its the price tag or if we just over paid but man he does not look good at all.
Ineeds to be taken out the firing line next week as alot of fans getting on his back. Best to bench him next week i think.
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It would probably be best if Gerrard can help decide where best to play him. Apart from that great ball in to Ings he was generally like a labrador pup chasing a frisbee around the park today. Tonnes of running but no positional discipline.
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Still in the give him time camp.
Way too early to be writing him off especially as he’s now got a manager who in theory will gradually be implementing a system that suits him (with the narrow front 3).
I think playing with Ollie at #9 will help him. Not sure it clicks with Ings down the middle as he always wants it to feet.
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Definitely give him time, look at Douglas Luiz after he settled in. He’s a quality player.
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He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
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He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
Nail on head lee. My biggest concern
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He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
He's also far far to unfit to be a winger. That's all on him by the way. To be 4 months or so in to his career with us and sti be as unfit as the day ollie beat his ass on the bleep test is unacceptable. I think he should and we be taken out the side until that changes
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He's not on form but he'll come good.
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Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
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Interesting that we looked better and went onto win after he went off.
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Continues to play well in fits and starts only. I suspect he is not quite as lean and mean as he was for Norwich.
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He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
He gave the ball away too cheaply too many times today as well. Given the money we paid for them, we needed Buendia and Bailey to hit the ground running really and provide us with real quality, but it hasn’t really happened yet at this point.
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Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
It's a Catch 22
He won't be good enough for the 1st team with his fitness/ confidence level
The best way to get confidence at least is to play in the 1st team
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Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
It's a Catch 22
He won't be good enough for the 1st team with his fitness/ confidence level
The best way to get confidence at least is to play in the 1st team
From what I’ve seen so far, he’s again not the type of player we needed in that position. With the way we play, I still think we need ‘functional’ wide players who will work back defensively, but then have the pace to transition into attack.
Thought it was noticeable that we looked more threatening when Bailey and El Ghazi were out wide at the end and were able to run with the ball.
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He needs to learn how to buy a foul.
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He also needs how to foul and get away with it. Start by heading his markers in the nuts.
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He also needs how to foul and get away with it. Start by heading his markers in the nuts.
Start? He caught Bissouma in the nuts down by the North Stand/Witton Lane corner of the pitch. Bissouma was rolling around like he'd been shot (in the nuts).
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Thanks for that Rudy. You know my eyesight does not function beyond the Holte End penalty area. Mind you I was able to make out a number of blue and white striped shirts rolling about at regular intervals.
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He seems to have a real ability to pick a pass - it just feels like he trying too hard. Really hope it clicks for him
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Thanks for that Rudy. You know my eyesight does not function beyond the Holte End penalty area. Mind you I was able to make out a number of blue and white striped shirts rolling about at regular intervals.
Here you go, Brian. (https://www.specsavers.co.uk/book/location)
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That is very funny Rudy. Especially so as I don't wear spectacles any longer.
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Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Looking increasingly like trying to play these two cost Smith his job.
Both have been useless so far, so bench at best from now on for me.
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Utter waste of a jersey today. Buendia is soooooo slow over the first couple of metres. Also has a habit of not looking when he plays short passes so they are slightly off for the recipient. Needs to be put through the wringer in training.
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I would bench him for Bailey.
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Benrahma while initially on loan at West Ham last season wasn’t up to much. He’s been a much more significant contributor this season after the deal was made permanent. He adjusted to his new team, worked hard and developed into the system.
I think Buendia will do the same, adjust and prove his worth. Still a young player, he will find his spot as we look to play more attacking possession based football where we are not constantly chasing the ball.
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Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Looking increasingly like trying to play these two cost Smith his job.
Both have been useless so far, so bench at best from now on for me.
And yet we have a completely new management team and they were both picked to start so they must be doing something right in training. It's just not translating to match day for some reason.
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He looks really, really light weight and a bit crap. The difference between being a good Noriwch player in the Championship and playing for the Villa.
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Right up to the 80th minute I was prepared to sell Ollie back to Exeter for half of what they sold him. He was that poor and not for the first time. Buendia is far more technically skilled, until now he's not been used properly. There's a great player in there. Just like Ollie.
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Out of the 3 big summer signings, he’s the one I’m most dubious about. Even putting his fitness to one side, his lack of awareness for a reduced space skills player is alarming. The amount of times Bunedia loses the ball/has his pocket pinched is becoming noticeable, as is my view that opposition managers are deliberately targeting him to regain possession because he’s a weak link. For a creative ball player costing over £30m that is a big red flag for me. Plus he’s playing with better players than at Norwich.
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Along with Ings looking like another waste of money at the moment.
He may come good but he doesn’t convince me.
Looking increasingly like trying to play these two cost Smith his job.
Both have been useless so far, so bench at best from now on for me.
And yet we have a completely new management team and they were both picked to start so they must be doing something right in training. It's just not translating to match day for some reason.
Perhaps, but it was obvious for all to see that it wasn’t working at half time and changes needed to be made.
Ings doesn’t hold onto the ball and get us up the the field, so that leaves the forwards isolated and leaves us unable to build pressure. Buendia has been poor in all regards.
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He's far, far too easy to get the ball off for a creative player.
Unfortunately, this.
Good thing is it should be easy to coach so he shields the ball more effectively, and if then he keeps giving it away, then others will need to take his spot
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He needs a bit of coaching on how to (not) use his body. Too often he tries to draw contact and protect the ball in front... which he’s too slight for and thus gets knocked off.
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His passing, in tight areas can be brilliant, we've seen examples of it and there's evidence from his time at Norwich. When the balance of our side is worked out, and the team and system more settled I've no doubt he'll flourish.
His attitude is one of determination, and I like that. Nobody should be happy being subbed, so I get that too.
He's been with us for 12 games in an unsettled, largely under performing squad. Give the guy some time.
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Yesterday was the first time I really worried he wouldn't make it, he faded that badly. However, with a bit of reflection I thought it was noticeable how much better he was when the rest of the team was doing the new style a bit more, and that he faded as we retreated a bit to nullify Brighton's possession game. That round-the-corner pass for Ings in the first half was incredible - we'll just have to see, as Gerrard stamps his imprint on the playing style a bit more, if he comes good at that point.
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I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
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I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
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Admittedly haven't seen much to convince me but am prepared to give him time,
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I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
Id have snapped their hands off at 60m
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I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
Id have snapped their hands off at 60m
I suspect they would've too John.
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I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
Id have snapped their hands off at 60m
I suspect they would've too John.
well we missed out then
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On what my eyes have seen, I'd have been happier to spend £60m on Smith Rowe than the best part of £40m on Buendia.
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I can't recall any complaints when his signing was announced. A lot of mirth at mugging off Arsenal wasn't it?
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He's had issues with fitness, he went to Argentina and had to quarantine, he's joined us to play for a manager who has since had the boot. He's been played as a 10 and right wing, and now he's got a new manager to start again with.
Hardly a settled start - let's not write him off yet.
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He's had issues with fitness, he went to Argentina and had to quarantine, he's joined us to play for a manager who has since had the boot. He's been played as a 10 and right wing, and now he's got a new manager to start again with.
Hardly a settled start - let's not write him off yet.
I def think there is a player in there - and it could be a special one. We know he can do it, and he just needs a bit of luck and a few good performances.
Think he'll benefit from playing in a team with confidence and is playing well
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He's had issues with fitness, he went to Argentina and had to quarantine, he's joined us to play for a manager who has since had the boot. He's been played as a 10 and right wing, and now he's got a new manager to start again with.
Hardly a settled start - let's not write him off yet.
Nah, burn him!
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I wish we'd added the money spent on Buendia to the derisory bid for Smith-Rowe.
You wanted us to pay £60m for Smith Rowe?!
Buendia's young and he's had very little time to settle. If he does, he'll be great. If he doesn't, we should get close to our money back for him.
Smith Rowe may be worth £60m in the future, who knows, but it's way off the mark for a player who'd played 22 games for Arsenal at the time we put our bid in.
Rather have smith rowe at than price then 40m on buendia any day
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I think it’s unfair for people to keep saying don’t write him off to people who are just saying what they are seeing
I’m not writing him off at all , I see some good things and some not so good things in every game
My biggest problem with him is he looks a bit slow in speed and also slow in thought for the premiership
Now as others have said that might well change with more experience but at the moment that’s what I’m seeing
I’m not writing him off but right now he’s not the £35 million player we were hoping for
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He’s got quick feet, but he’s quite small, easily knocked off the ball and he’s not especially fast. I hope he makes it, but I think he’s too easy to play against. I’ve far more confidence in Bailey coming good.
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Buendia will come good. I say that because he's a very good footballer.
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Hope we can use him most effectively in the January window. He's not a good fit at the moment to be honest.
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Simply not good enough for Premier League football. We need to try and move him on ASAP maybe a swap deal in January.
Ashley Young was absolutely fantastic and Buendia should be watching him very closely and learn how to be an Elite Footballer.
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How many games do we give a player to see if he's up to our standard?
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How many games do we give a player to see if he's up to our standard?
Probably more than 6, which is the equivalent number of league games he's played for us in terms of minutes on the pitch.
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It is too early to write him off because you can see that he has real talent.
He needs to find a way to not being caught on the ball at this level.
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Is this the same Ashley Young that was too old a few weeks ago and shouldn't be playing
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It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
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Is this the same Ashley Young that was too old a few weeks ago and shouldn't be playing
Apparently he’s been swimming in a cocoon pool at BH
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It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
Surely this is where Gerrard and his coaching team earn their money. He’s clearly a good footballer, they just need to find a way to get the best from him.
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It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
Surely this is where Gerrard and his coaching team earn their money. He’s clearly a good footballer, they just need to find a way to get the best from him.
Agree with this. He's had hardly any time, has been injured / the other side of the world for much of his time with us. He cost us over 30m, so one of the things Gerrard and his team are going to have to do is get the best out of him. Give them a chance.
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I'll give them and him a chance, no bother, I just don't see it happening. As Risso says, I think his weaknesses are going to prove too much to overcome.
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It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
Jack wasn't exactly blessed with natural pace, but he did OK out wide. He is a bit of a freak of course, as he seems to move faster with the ball than without it.
One thing that Buendia does have that SG will value is the workrate and desire to press the opposition defenders, even if other parts of his game are struggling at the moment. Not saying he'll make it with us, but he's not an N'Zog or Carles Gill-type, who if they aren't creating aren't doing owt.
Bailey has looked more effective coming off the bench than starting recently, so there might be merit in saying to Buendia or whoever starts wide to go at it full pelt for 60-70 minutes and let our bench turn the game as required.
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Grealish had unbelievable control though, and was no slouch when he got going. He was entirely impossible to dispossess fairly as well, meaning he never lost possession by being tackled or knocked off the ball. The absolute polar opposite of Buendia in that regard.
I really hope Buendia makes it, I just don't think he will.
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I think it's likely that Buendia will make it to some degree. Whether he'll live up to the transfer fee is another thing, but I'd be very surprised if he was simply a write-off.
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Grealish had unbelievable control though, and was no slouch when he got going. He was entirely impossible to dispossess fairly as well, meaning he never lost possession by being tackled or knocked off the ball. The absolute polar opposite of Buendia in that regard.
I really hope Buendia makes it, I just don't think he will.
The Man City player is quicker when he has the ball than when he hasn't, and has the football (and only football) intelligence to know what to do with it. Like you, I wish Buendia well, but I doubt it'll work out for him.
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I like to think he will come good I saw his frustration when he was subbed against Brighton.
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He's clearly a decent player but like Chris has said, he needs time to settle. Gerrard will be here for a while so his team can really get to work with him now to get him up to speed. We will see an improvement. I also don't think he was as poor as people thought on Saturday either.
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It's just hard to see where he's going to fit in, or do well. You need pace in this game, especially as a wide player. It's all very well having talent but if you haven't got the phyicality or the speed, you're going to struggle as a wide player. Jota was the same, although Buendia is better than him.
He's done it before, at Norwich and previously in Spain. Why wouldn't he be able to do it again? Other than not having the fitness and time yet.
If we're comparing him to Ratboy, then he'll fail, because he's a different type of player, and clearly there's not really anyone as good as him at what he does.
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I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
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What is stopping him from being a top premier league player now is the same thing that's been against him all along, he doesn't protect the ball well enough. Part of it is that he just hasn't got the core strength but the slightly more worrying side is that, in complete opposition to the best players, he seems to always have less time than he should.
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I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
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I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
I hope you're right because if he can fix that I think he'll be an asset to us.
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I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
Yeah, I think I'd agree with this. Some players, I think it's fair enough to say based on early impressions they're not going to make it. With Buendía, I'd be inclined to judge him based on where he's at come the end of the season, not a couple of months in. I'm fairly confident that he'll come good, and when he does he'll come really good.
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I suspect he will turn out to be a more than decent player for us - he has the skills, he needs to fit them in. I dont think Grealish has been shooting the lights out at City in the way we know he can yet either
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I think the perceived lack of 'quickness of thought' is most likely down to a lack of confidence and assuredness in the system he's playing. He's not a 'slow' player.
Watching his footage from Norwich, in a team he was very comfortable playing in, you can see that's not a permanent feature of his play.
If he's still looking this lost within the formation in 5-6 months, then criticism will be fair enough - just think it'll take a while for him (and the rest of our attacking midfielders) to understand where his creative options will be based on how Gerrard wants to set up. Until this point, we've had no real recognisable patterns of play in how we attack this season - which is not great for trying to integrate several new attacking players.
You mention his perceived lack of 'quickness of thought': so, I don't see that at all - I see someone who sees the passes and moves into spaces in anticipation of the ball being shifted there; both of which require vision and speed of thought. He is also almost too enthusiastic, burning out after 70 minutes of closing-down and chasing-back.
Where he is not yet up to speed is in his ball retention (core strength? lack of the sort of technique that McGinn - for example - has?).
He was bought as a support-act to JG, not to be the main creative focus: that, too, may take a while for him to adapt to.
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Whether he turns out as good as we all hope is one thing, but bloody hell we overpaid on him by about £20m.
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I backed him before we signed him so going to stick with that view. I still believe he has the assets to be an excellent player for us. He's stronger than he looks with a low centre of gravity. He's feisty and hard working. I agree he's not looked great so far, but hopefully it's more to do with fitness and settling in. Hopefully Gerrard can get the best of him because if we can get him firing he'd be our most creative player.
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How is he stronger than he looks? Is he just getting knocked off the ball constantly as a bet then?! 🤷
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How is he stronger than he looks? Is he just getting knocked off the ball constantly as a bet then?! 🤷
I know what you mean, it's not working for him at the moment. But the point remains, he's stocky and tenacious. I don't think he'll be getting knocked of as easily once he gets into his stride.
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I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
The year they came up only De Bruyne and Grealish made more chances than him.
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I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
The year they came up only De Bruyne and Grealish made more chances than him.
And the issue is that he's being compared with the latter.
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Jesus lets give the guy a break and time to settle in. His fee will be a huge weight to bare and has not had an easy start.
SG will know what a jewel he has (very much reminds me of Coutinhio) so a way to utilise his ability is what is required
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Emi Buendia is making an average of 2.78 tackles per 90 this season, putting him in the top 1% of attacking midfielders and wingers in the Premier League this season
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Is that after he's been muscled off the ball and is trying to win it back ?!
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I don’t think he was that poor on Saturday either and is a useful player but not a £35 million player that’s the problem
His best football was at Norwich in the championship when they came up for that one season he went missing for a year which is a major concern then regained his form back in the championship for them
The coaching team will hopefully make him sharper and quicker in thought and we might get the player we were hoping we bought, I don’t think he will be a outright dismal failure like say N’zogbia McCormack Hutton
But whether he will live up to his pricetag remains to be seen but he will be given every chance I’m sure
The year they came up only De Bruyne and Grealish made more chances than him.
I didn’t know that
I was just going from what Norwich fans had said and goals scored
But fair enough that’s a good stat
I’m not comparing him to Grealish he’ll never be as good as him
But for the money he we paid I want him to be one of the best players in our team
Your stat proves that he can do it in the prem so that’s good
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Grealish had unbelievable control though, and was no slouch when he got going. He was entirely impossible to dispossess fairly as well, meaning he never lost possession by being tackled or knocked off the ball. The absolute polar opposite of Buendia in that regard.
I really hope Buendia makes it, I just don't think he will.
Buendia could do with watching some clips of how Grealish protects the ball. It isn't as if Buendia is too light, if anything he seems to be carrying a bit of timber. Get his arse down low, protect the ball and draw the foul if needs be.
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Good contribution to goal. Hopefully will give him the confidence to kick on.
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Great impact today. As well as his involvement in the goal he showed some other sharp bits of play and some great energy.
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Brief cameo but looked a bit sharper, dwelling on the ball less, much more like it.
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Brilliant to create that chance for Chuk.
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He creates chances and takes risks which sometimes don’t pay off. I think he’ll be just fine
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Brilliant to create that chance for Chuk.
That first half he was shocking. Improved 2nd
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A few games in his proper position and I think he'll be a bit better. Still looking like a bit of a rip off though.
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He creates chances and takes risks which sometimes don’t pay off. I think he’ll be just fine
I like him, he will definitely come good.
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I like the positions he takes up and the ideas, but the execution and inter-play with teammates needs loads of work. I’m certainly not writing him off but he’ll need time before other players are on his wave length and for him to regain his confidence.
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He was poor in the first half, gave away possession too easily. However he was very good in the 2nd half and did really well for the chuk chance.
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Good today once he found a bit of composure. Shame about a couple of early passes where he made the wrong decision. I think you can see he's in a more a comfortable position.
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Him and Sanson will be a great duo
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Really grew into the game. Nice to see a midfield with him, Samson and Chuck. They will click and destroy teams that aren’t quite as horrible as Manchester Town.
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Have a word with yourself. It might not be coming off for him yet but he's one of the very few players we have that has a bit if class and can do the unexpected. Far from perfect tonight but some good moments too.
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Everyone was dreadful in the first half. Like the others he improved a lot in the second, the quality for the Chuk pass was sublime.
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Everyone was dreadful in the first half. Like the others he improved a lot in the second, the quality for the Chuk pass was sublime.
This.
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Him and Sanson will be a great duo
Sanson looked very good when he came on.
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He will come good.
Class player just needs game time.
He also gives a shit.
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Him and Sanson will be a great duo
Sanson looked very good when he came on.
Agreed, I thought Sanson and Chuk really added something for us.
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Him and Sanson will be a great duo
Sanson looked very good when he came on.
Agreed, I thought Sanson and Chuk really added something for us.
You're half right.
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Good to see him last the full 90 and work hard off the ball. Little touches of quality such as the ball to Carney despite being physically outmuscled/off-balance. Much improved and a lot more to come, I'm sure.
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Thought he looked good tonight. The pass to put Chuck through was sublime. Just think he lacks that half a yard of pace to get away from a player as clearly has the tricks. Promising performance to build on.
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No sorry I still think he’s crap.
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He showed glimpses. I hold out some hope.
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He has shown glimpses of quality - the through ball tonight and the one against Brighton which Ings failed to capitalise on. These moments in games have been interpersed with some really poor play and it was the same again tonight. Just gives the ball away too much in games at the moment.
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Hasn't done much to convince me, but like bailey I give Gerrard time to work on him,
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Some of his touches on the ball were fantastic - but he needs to work on a lot of areas of his game to prove he is £30+ million footballer for me
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He's got no pace to lose so I cant see why we dont put him on a weights programme to bulk up and make him harder to knock off the ball.
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He’s definitely got the good player not clicking yet about him. A bit like Bailey but not quite as injury prone touch wood
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He's got superbly quick feet, and a great touch. He's slower when running with the ball than glacial drift though, and his passing is shocking.
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Most overrated signing now for quite some time. The amount of ball he gives away and not that pacey.
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The pass aside i'm not convinced. Whether he's just struggling to adapt or he's just a bit shit you can't carry a 30m passenger every game at this level. I suppose he's at least fit to play occasionally which is more than you can say for our other big summer buys.
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He's clearly not very happy with things at the moment though. Lots of moaning to the bench and pointing at players.
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I still like him but he needs to bulk up a bit as he's a bit too easy to brush off the ball.
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He's got superbly quick feet, and a great touch. He's slower when running with the ball than glacial drift though, and his passing is shocking.
I don’t think his passing is shocking - it’s exceptional at times. But he is careless with it at times.
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I still like him but he needs to bulk up a bit as he's a bit too easy to brush off the ball.
Totally agree - I was saying last night that he has some nice touches and clearly has something about him, but unless he can stand up to the physical side of the game he won't be a success in the Premier League. He is knocked off the ball way too easily, and came out second best in every 50/50 challenge he went into.
It pains me to say it, but we need him to get a lot more like he who shall not be named. He is physical enough win tough challenges, is a bugger to knock off the ball, and when he does go down it is invariably on his own terms.
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He'll be fine. Looked a player at times last night.
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The pass aside i'm not convinced. Whether he's just struggling to adapt or he's just a bit shit you can't carry a 30m passenger every game at this level. I suppose he's at least fit to play occasionally which is more than you can say for our other big summer buys.
£30m players are probably the best passengers to carry ?!
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Very harsh that his goal was taken off him when deflected shots which totally make a goal happen from a shit shot are never taken away from the shooter.
Maybe Konsa can appeal on his behalf, he should be happy with the second goal.
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He’s growing into the side now. Still needs to be stronger on the ball, but you can see his confidence growing.
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He did some lovely things yesterday but spoils it by giving the ball away. Hopefully, like Stan Petrov, it takes a season to grown into it and then he's brilliant. He works hard, which is a big plus.
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I like him. Hasn't shone yet, granted, but there are more consistent flashes of the ability he has. I think he's probably guilty of trying too hard and not playing his natural game. He'll come good.
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Very harsh that his goal was taken off him when deflected shots which totally make a goal happen from a shit shot are never taken away from the shooter.
Maybe Konsa can appeal on his behalf, he should be happy with the second goal.
It would have hit the post without the touch from Konsa.
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There was one point where we broke yesterday and he basically took four Leicester players out of the game. But then that sort of brilliance is outweighed at the moment by the amount of times he's either caught on the ball or bullied off it.
I'm not sure if it's a lack of strength conditioning or if he's still getting used to the pace of the Prem but if he could sort that side of his game out he'd be one hell of a player.
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Thought it was Buendia's best game so far for Villa yesterday.
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Much improved yesterday and deserved to get the Goal. Hopefully it's the start of a run of better performances after a torrid start to the season
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Very harsh that his goal was taken off him when deflected shots which totally make a goal happen from a shit shot are never taken away from the shooter.
Maybe Konsa can appeal on his behalf, he should be happy with the second goal.
It would have hit the post without the touch from Konsa.
Not sure. Even the slow-mo replay didn't show much in the way of deviation.
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He can do some great things, and he's got amazingly quick feet. But he's so slow when running with the ball, covering midfielders or defenders get back without having to break into anything more than a jog. And his passing is slightly better than Luiz's at the moment, but still isn't very good.
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Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
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Some of the dwelling on the ball is we dont have the movement quite there in front of him . Hopefully that will come
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Has he calmed down on the eye-rolling and gesturing to the bench about how hard life is for him on the pitch cos teammates aren't doing what he wants?
Hate seeing that shit.
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Has he calmed down on the eye-rolling and gesturing to the bench about how hard life is for him on the pitch cos teammates aren't doing what he wants?
Hate seeing that shit.
He seemed to have a minor paddy after being taken off again. One of the coaches held out a tracksuit top for him as he walked towards the bench, and he sort of turned his back and ignored him completely.
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Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
It seems to be his modus operandi due to his lack of pace. He deliberately draws contact, but then can’t withstand the pressure and gets dispossessed.
This approach should be easy enough to fix through some good coaching.
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I thought he was pretty good in the second half of both Man City & Leicester. He work rate is exceptional, he's looking better on the ball, essentially scored a goal and had created some great chances. I think people calling him shit are more influenced by preconceptions than what is happening on the pitch. He's coming good now that he's getting more game time and I'm confident there's more to come.
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I thought he was pretty good in the second half of both Man City & Leicester. He work rate is exceptional, he's looking better on the ball, essentially scored a goal and had created some great chances. I think people calling him shit are more influenced by preconceptions than what is happening on the pitch. He's coming good now that he's getting more game time and I'm confident there's more to come.
Yep, I also think he's being compared with his predecessor, consciously or otherwise..
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Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
The guy who's a complete outcast in the worst Barcelona team in a generation?
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Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
The guy who's a complete outcast in the worst Barcelona team in a generation?
Surely David Silva would be better to aim for
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When it comes to diminutive offensive midfielders, Robert Hopkins is still the benchmark.
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When it comes to diminutive offensive midfielders, Robert Hopkins is still the benchmark.
When it comes to classic own goals against non-league opposition he is. And I'd have used 'skid' rather than 'bench'.
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Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
The guy who's a complete outcast in the worst Barcelona team in a generation?
More about his football ability rather than his attitude or mental state, I believe he was a bit difficult at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' aswell.
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Coutinho is the role model for a diminutive offensive midfielder.
Buendia does not seem to have that ability to get away from contact with the opposition.
It seems to be his modus operandi due to his lack of pace. He deliberately draws contact, but then can’t withstand the pressure and gets dispossessed.
This approach should be easy enough to fix through some good coaching.
At the price we paid for him, you would kind of expect the finished article really. He has had some sublime moments in games, but there have been too many occasions where he has looked as though it is too much for him. Hopefully we will start to see more of the former as the weeks go on.
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Gerrard needs to get the passing and possession game up and running to get the best out of Buendia, as he's certainly not a traditional beat a man with pace type of wide player.
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When it comes to diminutive offensive midfielders, Robert Hopkins is still the benchmark.
Ha ha.
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Has he calmed down on the eye-rolling and gesturing to the bench about how hard life is for him on the pitch cos teammates aren't doing what he wants?
Hate seeing that shit.
I agree, can't stand it. I must admit this behavior has almost certainly biased me against him somewhat.
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I love that we have that passion and someone who craves success. He's disappointed when it's not going for him and us and isn't afraid to show it. He works hard though and is getting better as he settles.
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What I get from the behavior is less a craving for success but a need to blame others. Which is not a trait I value. I concede I might mis/overinterpret.
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No, I agree. Giving it the big "I-Am" cos he's our highest earner or whatever the reason is, can quickly turn sour (see Barkley last year).
If a player has a selfish attitude, I'm hoping we have a coaching team to remind him that he plays as part of a team.