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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on May 17, 2021, 10:21:37 PM
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sigh...I fear the worst after how the last game ended, but maybe it will be an Everton-esque level of surprise by the end of the evening. I expect Jack to start.
I'll go for a massive shock 2-0 win - Platt and an Ormondroyd screamer
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More misery 0-2
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Masons getting a bit out of them. I think Jack will push to start and Tyrone should be back and maybe Hause will replace Elmo, can only see grief here, 3:1
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I wouldn’t want Hause at RB. We have a brilliant kid in HKK that deserves a chance. He’s been superb for the U23’s.
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It's crazy to think our last win against this lot was 6 years ago and the only player who's still here from that team is Grealish. For them Kane, Dier, Lamela and the exiled Rose are all still on their books.
0-1. A McGinn special that gives us all flashbacks to this worldie!
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Loved Alan Wright!!! Value for money-wise, one of the best signings we've ever made. Didn't he cost us £100k or something daft?
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He was superb for us, a really great fullback.
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Defeat
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Loved Alan Wright!!! Value for money-wise, one of the best signings we've ever made. Didn't he cost us £100k or something daft?
Yes, loved Wright, and had his name on the back of my away shirt that 95-96 season.
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Loved Alan Wright!!! Value for money-wise, one of the best signings we've ever made. Didn't he cost us £100k or something daft?
Cost £1m from Blackburn but agree totally with your post, was an excellent signing
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Loved Alan Wright!!! Value for money-wise, one of the best signings we've ever made. Didn't he cost us £100k or something daft?
Cost £1m from Blackburn but agree totally with your post, was an excellent signing
....and when he scored, they were absolute worldies!
As for this game, can’t see much past a tight defeat. 2-1 to them.
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the game will be all about Harry Kane (if he plays or does not?)
Cannot see anything other than a Spurs win 3 - 1
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Having made a proper fool of myself in predicting a thumping win at Palace (although after 20 minutes I thought I might be right), I feel I should be more circumspect here.
10-0
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3-1 Spurs
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Let's just do something different. 3 at the back, 2 up front, anything, something. Playing 4-3-3 and seeing it mainly fail every week just makes no sense.
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Lose 4-0, Bale hatrick and Engels to play and let the ball roll under his foot for Son to get one in injury time.
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I'd like to see Luiz and Nakamba with SJM in a more advanced Barkley role for this one.
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Report in the guardian that Kane has told spuds he wants to leave in the summer transfer window.
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I hate Tottenham more than I hate Manchester United. What the fuck other than your London base gives you any right to think of yourselves as a ‘super club’. We have been shit for over a decade and still managed to win more trophies than you! No doubts this will be a candle lit vigil for Harry Kane. Sadly, I see yet another defeat.
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I'd like to see Luiz and Nakamba with SJM in a more advanced Barkley role for this one.
Or try McGinn in Traores position. A front 4 of McGinn, Grealish, AEG and Watkins. Spurs defence is poor. I don't particularly rate Nakamba but might be worth trying him in this one. Spurs are effectively playing with a front four these days. But Leeds exposed their lack of graft I thought a couple of weeks back. Likes of Bale and Alli don't track runners.
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Totally dead rubber init. Could either be an entertaining game or a pre-season friendly. Experiment a bit, stick the kids in, get grealish fit I guess. 1-0
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According to DS presser, Jack is being loaded as we speak!
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According to DS presser, Jack is being loaded as we speak!
Away baby let's go!
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Would like to see Chukwuemeka given a go in this game as unlikely to be involved on Sunday with the final on Monday night.
Martinez
Elmo Konsa Mings Targett
Luiz Nakamba
McGinn Chukwuemeka Grealish
Watkins
Not that there is a hope of that being the team as sure Jack will come from bench again with a view to him starting vs Chelsea & we seem to continually reward Traore’s invisible man impressions with a start the following game.
El Ghazi is another real odd one, his goal scoring record suggests he has had a good season but he barely ever seems to get past a player for me, like Traore he is a luxury player who has done nowhere near enough whilst Jack was out....far too many 3/10 games from them both, can’t afford that in a 433
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Smith on the younger players potentially playing ..
“It’s certainly difficult to manage because of the quality of the teams we’re playing.
“We’ve got some quality young players, probably tomorrow will be the best chance because come Sunday (against Chelsea) they’ve got an FA Youth Cup Final on the Monday. I’ll certainly want the players to play in that.
“It gives us an opportunity to look at things tomorrow, that’s for sure.”
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Sportsman's bet? Not a single youth player will start the game. Not even young Jacob.
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“We’ve got some quality young players, probably tomorrow will be the best chance because come Sunday (against Chelsea) they’ve got an FA Youth Cup Final on the Monday. I’ll certainly want the players to play in that.
“It gives us an opportunity to look at things tomorrow, that’s for sure.”
I dont want to be negative against Dean but we all know that means
As we were
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If he’s going to look at players tomorrow is the game and rest all of them for Sunday ahead of the final. I’m hoping tomorrow we see Kesler at the very least and hopefully Chuk for a decent part of it.
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Lucky Spurs fans get to part with 60 sheets for this one.
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2-0.
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I hate Tottenham more than I hate Manchester United. What the fuck other than your London base gives you any right to think of yourselves as a ‘super club’. We have been shit for over a decade and still managed to win more trophies than you! No doubts this will be a candle lit vigil for Harry Kane. Sadly, I see yet another defeat.
I don't particularly mind Tottenham one way or the other. When I was a kid and really getting into football they were winning FA Cups at the same time we were winning the title and the European Cup.
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Try a different formation that will enable us to get a couple of the kids on the pitch. 3-4-2-1 has worked well for Chelsea.
Martinez
Konsa
Hause
Mings
Kesler
Nakamba
Luiz
Targett
Chuck
Grealish
Watkins
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So put 2 kids in for their debuts into a formation that the team has never played before you mean?
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In normal times you're right, but we're learning absolutely nothing from playing the same players in the same formation, and we're still losing anyway.
We've played 3 at the back before under Deano and I'd rather give Kesler the reinsurance of another centre back than have him relying on Traore for cover.
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Elmo was really shown-up on Sunday, Palace kept attacking his side. Get Kesler in. Not that it will make much difference, our record against this shower is shite. The 2-4 and 2-5's of 1992 and 2000 would be great but I can't see it or anything close to it.
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I'd try Chukwuemeka from the start. I rate him better than Ramsey.
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I hate Tottenham more than I hate Manchester United. What the fuck other than your London base gives you any right to think of yourselves as a ‘super club’. We have been shit for over a decade and still managed to win more trophies than you! No doubts this will be a candle lit vigil for Harry Kane. Sadly, I see yet another defeat.
I don't particularly mind Tottenham one way or the other. When I was a kid and really getting into football they were winning FA Cups at the same time we were winning the title and the European Cup.
You must be either very old or have a fab memory Damo! (joke) I remember watching them in the early 80's with the Ricky Villa goal and then winning the old EUFA Cup under Keith Burkenshaw I think. Since then, they have always thought they are bigger than they actually are, probably a bit like us at times!
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If Mings is o.k and wants to play then I'd shift Konsa to RB just for this game.
We will simply lose with Son and Bale taking it in turns to have runs v AEM every 5 minutes.
We also usually struggle against their physical and mobile central midfield.
Think Kane in his last home game will go a bit mad here so fear a 3-0 loss.
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Bale is doubtful for this, one stat stands out for me, in the last seven games Villa have lost fourteen points from winning positions (SkySports) if that is correct it points to a weakness in recognising the point where the defence or midfield need bolstering, exactly what happened at Palace, when we were still up but under pressure an extra midfielder may have seen us home. I have doubts we will see anything different in this game, same players same positions same result.
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Standard 2-0 defeat.
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Oof, this is another one of those games where it seems we go up to their manager beforehand:
"And how would sir like his 3 points today?"
"Just the regular 2-0 today, no fuss, thanks"
"An excellent choice, sir"
But, the newspapers said they are "reeling" after Kane said he wanted to leave, so maybe we have a chance if they are all staggering around with their hands on their foreheads.
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Bale is doubtful for this, one stat stands out for me, in the last seven games Villa have lost fourteen points from winning positions (SkySports) if that is correct it points to a weakness in recognising the point where the defence or midfield need bolstering, exactly what happened at Palace, when we were still up but under pressure an extra midfielder may have seen us home. I have doubts we will see anything different in this game, same players same positions same result.
Remember the good old days ( earlier this season) when the pre match request was score first Villa?
Now we score and it’s oh dear, you know what’s coming next, Midfield Field gets over run, Smith stands passively on the touch line, like for like subs, opposition score and go onto win the match.
Chuck Keenan in for 5 minutes at the end.
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Oof, this is another one of those games where it seems we go up to their manager beforehand:
"And how would sir like his 3 points today?"
"Just the regular 2-0 today, no fuss, thanks"
"An excellent choice, sir"
But, the newspapers said they are "reeling" after Kane said he wanted to leave, so maybe we have a chance if they are all staggering around with their hands on their foreheads.
I think it’s a sky fest lump in the throat emotional farewell and Kane banging in a couple and sending the studio and the Spurs faithful into a maelstrom of hyperbole and frenzied wanking.
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Just like Ossie and Ricky's welcome in 1978, we'll ruin Harry's party in similar fashion.
Spurs 1 Villa 4
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Sounds like Grealish will start and if any of our kids are going to play, it will be in this match. The Chelsea match is close to the Youth Cup Final
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Spoke to my Brother today a Spurzzz fan. It's his birthday tomorrow, so let's hope Villa give him something to upset him on his birthday.
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I think it’s a sky fest lump in the throat emotional farewell and Kane banging in a couple and sending the studio and the Spurs faithful into a maelstrom of hyperbole and frenzied wanking.
Oh yes it's all geared up to be just that. Shame because I've booked a table INSIDE a pub to watch this one with a Spurs mate and our lads. Will be a nice night out but I suspect the game and the ensuing wank-a-thon will be the worst bit!
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Feels like we always lose to bloody Spurs.
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Spoke to my Brother today a Spurzzz fan. It's his birthday tomorrow, so let's hope Villa give him something to upset him on his birthday.
ahhhh sibling love that's nice :D
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Love him to bits but hate Spurzzz. Saw lots of games together at separate ends from charity shield in 1982 onwards. Never saw Villa lose to them, including the great 5-2 win at WHL.
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we look so bloody predictible. Go on DS , start with Chuck and Jack .. nothing to lose . Just want abit of excitement for a change ...
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a good mate of mine will be there tonight, a Spurs fan of a great many many years and he has paid £60 each for a seat for him and his wife !
hope he feels miserable tomorrow :)
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The Doc
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I used to have a soft spot for Spurs after watching the Charity Shield in '81 as a 10 year old.
Then they became a non-entity after they stopped winning cups. Then of course they started the PR drive and got lucky with Bale etc to now have these grand ideas about themselves, the wankers. As far as I'm concerned we need to smash them off the park, crock Kane for a season and Watkins can win the Euros for England in his place.
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a good mate of mine will be there tonight, a Spurs fan of a great many many years and he has paid £60 each for a seat for him and his wife !
hope he feels miserable tomorrow :)
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The Doc
That's cheap! I paid £220 for 2 seats there at the opening game of last season!
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a good mate of mine will be there tonight, a Spurs fan of a great many many years and he has paid £60 each for a seat for him and his wife !
hope he feels miserable tomorrow :)
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The Doc
That's cheap! I paid £220 for 2 seats there at the opening game of last season!
I was told that the corporate seats we were in were £1500 a game. The pies were nice though.
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a good mate of mine will be there tonight, a Spurs fan of a great many many years and he has paid £60 each for a seat for him and his wife !
hope he feels miserable tomorrow :)
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The Doc
That's cheap! I paid £220 for 2 seats there at the opening game of last season!
I was told that the corporate seats we were in were £1500 a game. The pies were nice though.
London prices! Yes, as you've guessed we were in 'Home' seats. Best ground I've ever been to and, yes, the pies were good.
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Have never forgiven them for that night at Villa Park when we were neck and neck with United in 93. Fuckers defended as if their lives depended on it.
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a good mate of mine will be there tonight, a Spurs fan of a great many many years and he has paid £60 each for a seat for him and his wife !
hope he feels miserable tomorrow :)
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The Doc
That's cheap! I paid £220 for 2 seats there at the opening game of last season!
I was told that the corporate seats we were in were £1500 a game. The pies were nice though.
London prices! Yes, as you've guessed we were in 'Home' seats. Best ground I've ever been to and, yes, the pies were good.
I think he was bemoaning the fact that as a one off game it was highly priced...
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The Doc
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"Best ground I've ever been to and, yes, the pies were good".
Haven't you been to Villa Park? And indeed tried the famous Balti Pie?
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I'll feel we are back properly when we start beating these regularly again. Probably not tonight though. I hope the game doesn't quickly settle into one way traffic towards our goal. Let's take the game to them.
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"Best ground I've ever been to and, yes, the pies were good".
Haven't you been to Villa Park? And indeed tried the famous Balti Pie?
They changed the balti pie supplier last season and there was a noticeable decrease in quality. I'm hoping next season we get Pukka Pies back.
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It'd be nice to have a link-up with Hockley based Island patties. I fucking love 'em.
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The Harry Kane Farewell Party v Villa? No, just no.
3-0 them. :'(
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Stonewall home win. Easy.
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"Best ground I've ever been to and, yes, the pies were good".
Haven't you been to Villa Park? And indeed tried the famous Balti Pie?
They changed the balti pie supplier last season and there was a noticeable decrease in quality. I'm hoping next season we get Pukka Pies back.
100% The pies last season were a big step down. Fact they cooked them to the point of being like concrete (in the upper Holte at least) didn't help. Pukka all the way for me.