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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on May 16, 2021, 11:00:52 AM
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Ramsey in for Barkley. No Mings
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No Mings either!
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Palace: Butland, Mitchell, Cahill, Kouyate, Ward, Schlupp, McCarthy, Eze, Townsend, Zaha, Benteke.
Subs: Hennessey, Guaita, Tomkins, Dann, Kelly, Riedewald, Ayew, Mateta, Batshuayi.
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
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What happened to Mings?
Also, from memory, have we ever even taken a point from one of these Sunday lunch snoozetime fixtures?
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What happened to Mings?
Also, from memory, have we ever even taken a point from one of these Sunday lunch snoozetime fixtures?
Sure we have beaten Small Heath in the Sunday midday game about seventy times.
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What happened to Mings?
Also, from memory, have we ever even taken a point from one of these Sunday lunch snoozetime fixtures?
Injured last game in a collision with Martinez.
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That's a nice photo of Doug.
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Ramsay for Barkley a clear sign the latter won't be retained. Hause for Mings may be a blessing as I think Hause is better in the air. Hopefully Watkins has had some time to reflect on his stupidity last week
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Hopefully Watkins has had some time to reflect on his stupidity last week
Oh, fuck off. Reflect on your own stupidity.
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Interesting McGinn is captain and not Elmo!
I think SJM score as been playing well and deserves a shot at leading team.
Go on McGinn! Feeling he'll net a worldie today
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Ramsay for Barkley a clear sign the latter won't be retained. Hause for Mings may be a blessing as I think Hause is better in the air. Hopefully Watkins has had some time to reflect on his stupidity last week
“Reflect on his stupidity”.
JFC.
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I fancy this. 3-1, and McGinn to score.
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Please give Chuk some game time Dean.
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Please give Chuk some game time Dean.
This.
And please don't bring Barkley on.
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Hopefully Watkins has had some time to reflect on his stupidity last week
Oh, fuck off. Reflect on your own stupidity.
Haha! That's the way, mate!
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What happened to Mings?
Also, from memory, have we ever even taken a point from one of these Sunday lunch snoozetime fixtures?
He could barely walk at the end of the Everton game after stretching for the cross so not a shock for me. I doubt he'll feature again this season, why would he risk a euros place given we have little to play for now?
Think this is a big game for Ramsey today playing a bit more further forward (unless McGinn is the AM).
AEM v Zaha/Eze will be a bit of an issue though I suspect.
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Happy with the team, come on Villa get 3 points.
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Interesting that he's named Chukwuemeka in the squad even though he played for the kids on Friday v Baggies.
Looks like Barkley is finished, wonder if he'd even have been on the bench had Morgan Sanson been fit - I'd like to think not.
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Bet Konsa is looking forward to reigniting his friendship with Zaha....
How long before Zaha is on the floor demanding action? Guessing the 12th minute.
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I feel like the youth players maybe the victims of their own success if that's the correct term to use.
This would be the perfect game to play a few of them, but due to them only playing on Friday and not wanting to pick up any injuries we wont see as much of them as we would like.
Be nice to see Chuck for 15 minutes though.
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Win please.
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
Are there are a huge amount of fans who want Mings dropped or sold?
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Grealish and Chucka on after 60 mins please.
Hause did well earlier in season so not worried about him and happy Barkley back on the bench .
2-1 Villa
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
Are there are a huge amount of fans who want Mings dropped or sold?
Must admit it passed me by, but then again I don't do social media.
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Thought I’d tuned in to watch villa but according to sky Liverpool are on first again
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
Are there are a huge amount of fans who want Mings dropped or sold?
No that I'm aware of either. You've got to look at the whole of the back 5 as a collective when you see Martinez equalling the clean sheet record.
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
Are there are a huge amount of fans who want Mings dropped or sold?
No that I'm aware of either. You've got to look at the whole of the back 5 as a collective when you see Martinez equalling the clean sheet record.
And the DM.....
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
Are there are a huge amount of fans who want Mings dropped or sold?
I wasn't aware there were any let alone "a huge amount". :o
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Jack Butland playing his first premier league game since 2018.
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I'd say there are a few of us concerned about his concentration levels.
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Jack Butland playing his first premier league game since 2018.
Hadn’t realised he was at Palace!
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I hate playing this shower at this shithole. It always seemed to be thumping with rain or so foggy that you couldn’t see the other end.
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This is a game where I would love us to avenge the VAR non-goal last season
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This is a game where I would love us to avenge the VAR non-goal last season
Me too
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awful finish . . . good play thou
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Obligatory mention of last season's narrow escape from relegation mentioned already
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Jack Butland playing his first premier league game since 2018.
Hadn’t realised he was at Palace!
Scott Carson, Jack Butland. They are all coming out of mothballs this week. There were rumours Mervyn Day was going to be one of the subs for Villa today.
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Ramsey has got to do better there.
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What a chance that was, has to hit the target.
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Ramsey big miss
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What a shame Jacob didn't do better; it'd be great for him to score.
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Well... This could be interesting, especially with the amount of Villa fans who are desperate to see Mings dropped/shipped out. Not the worst game for Hause to be at the back as I'd back him in an aerial duel against Benteke.
Are there are a huge amount of fans who want Mings dropped or sold?
I wasn't aware there were any let alone "a huge amount". :o
Good to see you posting Damo70. Someone put "do it for Damo70" on the post match thread. We were worried about you.
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good start here
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Surely that was a booking
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SJM started well
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Hoof
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Thought I’d tuned in to watch villa but according to sky Liverpool are on first again
Liverpool players are about to board their bus. Sky will go live there when bus arrives at ground.
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hause close
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Doug dictating things at the moment
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Unlucky Hause.
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Hause has started well and not far off scoring.
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luis SJM both started good
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This is a game where I would love us to avenge the VAR non-goal last season
I would rather leave that for when stakes are high.
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Decent corner for a change,
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hause close
Happened now here... 1 minute
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Hoof
I suppose not a game for a purist like yourself?
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hause close
Happened now here... 1 minute
By the way the Everton game has ended 0-0😊
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all villa
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Need a goal while we are on top
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Hoof
I suppose not a game for a purist like yourself?
i think we have started well
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We look nice and bright.
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close again ollie
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All over em. COYVB.
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Hoof
I suppose not a game for a purist like yourself?
Not when it's the only to get the ball in the box. Pass, pass until the final third and then the comes the big boot.
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Absolutely slaughtering them, need to make the most of it and score.
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hause again with header come onn score
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Got to convert these chances
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Just score please, Villa.
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Hoof
It's certainly not hoof ball ,we are playing some decent stuff.
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Totally on top. Got to take one of these chances.
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goolaallllllllll
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McGinniesta
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We should be in front here.
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SEXY TIMES
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Brilliant!!
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Gooooool!
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Hause could have done better there but at least he gets on the end of these corners
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Ya beeeeeauty!
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hoof get in !!!’
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At last.
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great finish sjm
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Getvin there McGinn, fantastic finish and well deserved.
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SJM!!!!
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Bert putting decent balls in the box on corners. Something that we've not been great on this season.
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That really is a lovely finish.
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Slotage
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Just gone in here! UTV
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Told you he'd score! :)
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Well done skipper superb strike
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Captain SJM!!!
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Get in McGinnnnnnn!!!!
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What a finish. Super John McGinn.
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Lovely finish SJM.
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McGinniesta
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Traore can be far too casual
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Interesting McGinn is captain and not Elmo!
I think SJM score as been playing well and deserves a shot at leading team.
Go on McGinn! Feeling he'll net a worldie today
Nice call Footy!
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Like the McGinn of old. Terrific strike. Now go for more
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Ffs Traore seems to be doing his best to give them the ball
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We have absolutely deserved this. Great start. And that’s Captain SJM if you don’t mind.
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Interesting McGinn is captain and not Elmo!
I think SJM score as been playing well and deserves a shot at leading team.
Go on McGinn! Feeling he'll net a worldie today
Great prediction Footy!
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Bert twice brainfart
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Classy finish, that!
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Deserved lead.
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I have a Chelsea supporting friend whose husband supports Palace. I'm hoping they will be able to console each other!
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Giving them a bit more of a foothold now
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That goal makes me think SJM has been having a chat with Bert in training. It was one of those sexy goals you’d expect from him.
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We need to put them to the sword now while we're on top. Couldn't bear not getting 3pts after taking the lead vs this shower.
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Silly fouls and loose passing have taken over from our bright start
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AEG has started brightly.
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Great save Emi
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Traore can be far too casual
Twice there right after we scored and it put us under pressure. Been a good start though and we deserve to be in front.
Don Goodman loves the sound of his own doesn't he!
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Don't give them stupid fouls
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Not kept the ball since we scored.
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Can they just for fucking once choose a co-commentator that doesn't see the entire match through the lens of our opposition?
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Come on Villa star passing again
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pull on the shirt you twat
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elmo sort it out
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pull on the shirt you twat
You tell him JP
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Don't know who the commentator is but when Benteke is pulling Konsas shirt apperently it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.
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This commentator is brilliant at stating the obvious!
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AEG has started brightly.
He's had his Shredded Wheat. Eid Mubarak.
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Don't know who the commentator is but when Benteke is pulling Konsas shirt apperently it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.
sounds like goodman
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Don Goodman, isn't it?
We have been sloppy since the goal though
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pull on the shirt you twat
I know everybody apart from Goodman saw that.
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ffs
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That was better, nice crisp passing
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Why have we gone shit?
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Bollocks
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benteke typical
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Boo.
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Can't say that's not deserved. We've been pants since we scored
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We are so frustrating at times.
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Superb until we scored.
Abysmal since. What the fuck has happened since our goal?
Traore is so sloppy on the ball.
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knew it when the cross came but fuck sake we had so many times to get rid
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Bollocks.
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It’s been all Palace since our goal. It had to be him didn’t it? And precisely the kind of cross Benteke loves.
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Vintage Benteke that
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We’ve defended that dreadfully.
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Fucking useless. These are so crap and we let them back into the game.
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That was coming. So sloppy
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Zaha looking really happy they scored.
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Reminds me of Burnley away.
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now we play again ffs
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Vintage Benteke that
Yep, rose like a salmon.
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knew it when the cross came but fuck sake we had so many times to get rid
Yep, once it left his foot you could only see one outcome.
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Sums up our season. Excellent to shit inside 30 minutes.
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Superb until we scored.
Abysmal since. What the fuck has happened since our goal?
Traore is so sloppy on the ball.
There's your answer
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Yes....AEG
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goooaallllll
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EL GOALZI
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YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS
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Superb until we scored.
Abysmal since. What the fuck has happened since our goal?
Traore is so sloppy on the ball.
Spot on with that assessment, mate
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Goooooooooool.
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Superb work from SJM
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Watkins never stops! Great header and lovely finish.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Couldn't even clear the ball prior to the cross. We are our own worst enemy
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AEG started well, deserves a goal
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Oh yessssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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'Stepping on The Ghaz'!
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We are so much better than them which makes it all the more frustrating that we allowed them to equalize.
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play well score
go inn a shell and play shit
they score
and then we turn into barcelona 2015 again and score
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Gett innn!
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El Ghazi!!! Brilliant from Watkins there. Really clever play.
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Get in!
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He's been basically shite for years, but manages to score against us. Fucking typical.
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Haha, get in.
Goodman saying it won't be easy to back in to the match
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Get in. Now don't sit back this time
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Great header from Ollie
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Right lets press for another Villa, don't let them back into it.
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Nonchalant goal bastardry from AEG that, waiting around, swept it in, looks like he's slightly angry it was so easy. Raul-like.
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What a response!
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Great game this, really open.
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Cue the El Ghazi song!
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Fuck I wish my stream wasn't so far behind.
Goal!
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El Ghazi is our best winger and a good player.
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Thankfully we have an el Goalzi. Now don't let them back into it again.
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This discussion on the telly about ‘points lost from a winning position’ is such bollocks.
The points are awarded on the result of the game not at different points in the game.
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watkins inches away from getting a header in
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bertie should have done better - but greaat header just before
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We are playing some nice football at times, and finding lots of space behind the Palace right back.
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When Collymore was here we had Stan the Man.
Now we have Anwar the Manwar!
8)
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As long as we stay positive and keep going forward we will win this game
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McGinn had been outstanding so far
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bet Jack is relishing coming on
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Was the 3-2 win against Wimbledon with the famous Dalian goal here or at Plough Lane?
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Was the 3-2 win against Wimbledon with the famous Dalian goal here or at Plough Lane?
Here
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McGinn had been outstanding so far
He is much better in this more advanced position taking advantage of his natural attacking desire.
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If Traoré had six legs, he'd still only use the one.
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well done JJ
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Was the 3-2 win against Wimbledon with the famous Dalian goal here or at Plough Lane?
Here
Ta. Just disputing the commentary theory that this is only the second time we've ever scored more than one goal here in the league.
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Traore the weak link again today.....so frustrating
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el ghazi let his man go then
and palace really close
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If Traoré had six legs, he'd still only use the one.
As long as it was his best leg
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How many times will Traore lose it in midfield?
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Back into our shells yet again
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We look a little more uncertain at the back, which isn’t surprising that on the right Konsa has Elmo, not Cash and on the left Targett has Hause not Mings. It makes a difference.
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Been impressed with Hause so far.
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If Traoré had six legs, he'd still only use the one.
But the one he does use is a beauty!
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How many times will Traore lose it in midfield?
It’s the amount of time he just gives it away that pisses me off.
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I think it's tactics after we score to sit back a bit.If so it's stupid.
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If Traoré had six legs, he'd still only use the one.
But the one he does use is a beauty!
Not today it isn't. He's been crap.
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If Jack has 45 minutes in him, I’d get him on for Traore straight away.
He’s playing at half the pace of everyone else, so sloppy.
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I think it's tactics after we score to sit back a bit.If so it's stupid.
It’s a game of football at PL level. The other team are going to have the ball and try and do something with it. Especially after they concede. Aside from Man City there aren’t many sides who almost exclusively have the ball.
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Blimey Roy looks old.
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How many times will Traore lose it in midfield?
It’s the amount of time he just gives it away that pisses me off.
Yep, just puts pressure back on us.
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good free kick there - corner -
half time
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Hodgson looks like a nailed-on candidate for the Deathwatch thread.
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Good first half
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A 45 minutes that sums us up perfectly.
Sublime in patches, infuriating in others.
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Need to make sure second half is not hot and cold like the first.
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Good half from us. If we keep up the positivity and stay on the front foot then there are more goals here for us.
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Have to say, for having played a first half of football AEG’s hair looks magnificent.
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Played well in the first half more of the same in the second please.
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Crazy first half. Two well taken goals, but we're too quick to sit back after scoring
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Blimey Roy looks old.
Yes, I thought that.
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My mom saw Hodgson on the telly during our Boxing Day game and actually asked who that little old man was sat there.
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Enjoyed that half. 45 mins for Jack please for Traore who is having a poor game today.
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Good half but we need to tighten up with our possession. Who the fuck are these commentators? One eyed twats. And they seem to have an endless supply negative stats to draw on like the last one "villa haven't done the double over Palace in 40 years" That's because they have been in leagues below us for most of them.
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This discussion on the telly about ‘points lost from a winning position’ is such bollocks.
The points are awarded on the result of the game not at different points in the game.
My old man is old school. He has got absolutely no time for pundits who like to play statto, they drive him up the wall. But I must confess I am quite a fan of the odd stat.
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Blimey Roy looks old.
Yes, I thought that.
He's 73, how should he look?
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Blimey Roy looks old.
Yes, I thought that.
He's 73, how should he look?
he looks more like an owl everyday bless him
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shut the fuck up souness .. who fucking cares its a deflection (just)
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Blimey Roy looks old.
I suppose that's what being linked with a move back to Sandwell does...
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Good match for Jack to have at least half an hour. El Ghazi looking a lot sharper today.
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what an assist by Ollie there
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Good start, sloppy middle period and good finish to the half. Targett and El Ghazi linking up well down our left and Watkins giving us a good option in behind down that side.
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Ollie and SJM outstanding so far....Targett and AEG great threat down the left aswell.
Should get at least another in the second half with Jack on, probably need it as we've been slack clearing the ball which cost the goal.
Overall good and main thing is to break the 50 point barrier for first time since 2010.
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what an assist by Ollie there
Bloody hell JP, how far behind is your stream 😉
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That Palace right side is where we need to continue to exploit. Bring Jack on for Bert and shift AEG to the right. More goals available.
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Good match for Jack to have at least half an hour. El Ghazi looking a lot sharper today.
I reckon his call up has given him a real boost. He’s playing well.
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This discussion on the telly about ‘points lost from a winning position’ is such bollocks.
The points are awarded on the result of the game not at different points in the game.
My old man is old school. He has got absolutely no time for pundits who like to play statto, they drive him up the wall. But I must confess I am quite a fan of the odd stat.
Our points lost from winning positions stat was similar last season, and the point I made at the time was that it's easier to coach a team into keeping leads, than it is to coach them into getting them in the first place.
It's never good to hear about 'lost points', but in my mind, it's a sign we're doing something right and it's something to build on. The teams that never take a lead at all are the ones who should be worrying the most.
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Generally a good half. We look like scoring every time we attack (their defence is poor). Our sloppiness let them back in especially Traore's play. Who is their mad-eyed w-nker on the wing? Sky's coverage has been awful 1st half and I have it on mute...klopp advert on 11th min, what was that about? Their graphic re El Ghazi before kick-off whilst having Elmo in shot. Awful coverage of Aston Villa by an awful broadcaster.
Come on the Villa 2nd half! UTV!
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get Jack on for JJ now and kill them off
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Was the 3-2 win against Wimbledon with the famous Dalian goal here or at Plough Lane?
Here
Ta. Just disputing the commentary theory that this is only the second time we've ever scored more than one goal here in the league.
And we lost 4-3 here against Wimbledon in Big Ron's last game
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Mrs had Boxty, bacon and eggs ready for half time. She’s a keeper, but not as good as Emi.
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Bloody hell nearly a massive cock up from Emi
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should have done better there - great bertie ball
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Bloody hell nearly a massive cock up from Emi
Not a good pass back to him really
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faster to John , would have been a tap in
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el ghazi - poor
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Greedy there El-Ghazi. Poor.
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McGinn out for the rest of the season.
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bertie wtf
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Traore that's silly.
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Traore is a liability
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McGinn out for the rest of the season.
?????? really?
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Honestly, if Traore gives the ball away again he may as well pull on a Palace shirt.
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Loopy cross on its way
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thats a foul on ollie
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Traore may well cost us this game.
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Missing Mings' leadership.
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McGinn out for the rest of the season.
?????? really?
No. I was wrong. 10 bookings is only a ban before 32 games so he's okay 🙂
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come on villa- step it up
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We've gone sloppy again. Need to step it up.
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shit play then gave the fucking ball away
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Past 5 minutes very sloppy.
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Why are we fucking about round our own box ?
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We are fucking around with it too much at the back.
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Jack warming up.
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Retracted again. Happens far too often for us.
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ffs got off one then.no palace there
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We’re almost asking to concede again. Smith to be fair isn’t happy!
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get jack on now before 2 2
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We are fucking around with it too much at the back.
Tactic
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We're reverting to our early season underestimate-shit-teams-and-play-sloppily form this half.
Grealish <-> Traore can't be far off.
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need to ddo something now
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Jack will come on soon. I imagine he’ll get 25-30 minutes today.
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Zaha with gloves on. Pussy.
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benteke hits woodwork
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All gone to sleep last 10.
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We're reverting to our early season underestimate-shit-teams-and-play-sloppily form this half.
Grealish <-> Traore can't be far off.
Has to be soon. We’re getting battered.
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Feeling embarrassed... who is JJ?
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Dean needs to change it here. Take Ramsey and Traore off before it's too late.
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Making them look like Barcelona at the moment
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I notice Goodman doesn't feel the need to point out that Eze went down under no contact from Luiz there
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That's a let off. But also their first effort of the half for all Dingle Goodman's excitable comments.
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Need Jack on now to get a foothold in this game. I'd say for Traore.
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benteke hits woodwork
I thought it was a superb save.
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Change it Smith
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free kick to us - breather
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Ramsey for Grealish please Dean.
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nearly 3 1 there
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Surely King Kort gets a goal today?
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These commentators don't want us to win, do they?
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change it now DS
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heres Jack
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These commentators don't want us to win, do they?
BCVillain is the commentator, I assume.
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Come on Jack!
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Jacks back
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Jack coming on.
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AEG did well to get back there
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Need Jack on now to get a foothold in this game. I'd say for Traore.
Here he comes Col !
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Grealish on for Traore
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Here he comes.....
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Not one of Bert’s best today.
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fouled already
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Zaha is such a twat
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Feeling embarrassed... who is JJ?
Nickname for Ramsey I think
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Be nice for Jack to right the wrong of our last visit to Palace
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I just heard artificial booing for when Jack came on. Why? Does the sound bod deem it to be authentic? Twat!
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Didn’t take long to clobber him
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Just checking is Grealish the most fouled player in the premier League?
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Ffs ref you twat.
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Fucking hell ref
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Well done Targett
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On the back foot again. Need to get hold of the ball.
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It’s been a really poor second half so far.
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We just need a minute or two of possession here, we can't keep giving it back to them so quickly.
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Didn't take long to see what the Palace tactic for dealing with Grealish is. Of course, no question of a booking.
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when is the ref gonna book ward
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el ghazi waste
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booked him ...WArd
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Didn't take long to see what the Palace tactic for dealing with Grealish is. Of course, no question of a booking.
Take it back, he did book him 😄
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Didn't take long to see what the Palace tactic for dealing with Grealish is. Of course, no question of a booking.
Ward just booked, think that was his third nibble at Jack in 10 mins.
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Terrible free kick from El Ghazi. You don't always have to shoot mate.
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close again flag up
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El Garbage
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2 2 OG elmo
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Jammy ******.
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Bollocks.
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Lucky.
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Well that was completely predictable really.
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Has been coming for a very long time. Terrible defending.
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They've had the run of the ball all game. No surprise they get a lucky goal.
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Jammy twats. Think Ezri should have got closer to Zaha before letting him turn.
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Fuck off zaha.
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Arse
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If we could ever overcome the good half / bad half thing we do, we'd be unstoppable.
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could have been a foul on ollie before seem to climb over him
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Well, we were playing for a CP equaliser amd we got one.
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These commentators are really getting on my tits.
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Been sluggish so far this half
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I'll be very annoyed if we end up losing this...
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Come on Villa, get another.
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They have dominated us in the middle all second half
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Smiler gets his goal
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This has been a dreadful performance
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Well, we have been asking for that.
Come on Villa!
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This has been a dreadful performance
Really?
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They have dominated us in the middle all second half
Because McGinn is terrified to tackle and get a second yellow?
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Not good this half.
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Can easily see them winning from here because we've been too passive and conceded too much initiative this half.
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Referee gets in the way of our attack, doesn't award us a drop ball. Twat.
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Poor from AEM that, he's got to come and help out Konsa and make it a 2 v 1, far too easy for Zaha to get half a yard and get the shot in.
Flat second half really.
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How is Ward the only player for them to have been booked.
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This has been a dreadful performance
Come on. It hasn't. We been very good at times but poor at others. We never make things easy though do we?
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I don’t see why there is any reason to not make a change in midfield now. Give Chuck some minutes because aside from McGinn the others haven’t exactly excelled today.
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How is Ward the only player for them to have been booked.
Because the ref's a duck head.
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Fuck they're dirty
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This has been a dreadful performance
Really?
Played well for about 15 minutes. The rest we've been so passive and timid.
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good job Konsa
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Get Chuck on, Dean.
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Dickhead
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get chuck on for JJ
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They are definitely the more likely to win this now
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palace hit bar
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Making them look like Barcelona again.
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Yikes. Our turn to be lucky at last.
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JJ isn’t good enough.
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We have been second to the ball so many times, all over the pitch.
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Under the cosh. Sort it out Dean!
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How is Ward the only player for them to have been booked.
Because the ref's a duck head.
Your quackers.
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Why can’t we give Chuck ten minutes?
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Dean - are you there?
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We are really riding our luck here. Can't handle Zaha and Eze.
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Think Ramsey has been lost.
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We can look absolutely superb and absolutely shit minutes apart in the same game. It’s frustrating to watch.
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Zaha and Eze would be the sort of players to improve us. So direct, no faffing about.
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Really sloppy play at the moment.
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Ramsey has a bit of an issue with tracking back and closing down.
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Think Ramsey has been lost.
I don’t see what kind of player he’s meant to be
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Think Ramsey has been lost.
His skier in the first five mins set the tone.
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Our midfield needs to stop giving it away. How many times we have been in good positions, lost it then been under the kosh?
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Ffs
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3 2
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Fuck off!
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Clinging on now, can't handle Zaha.
Ramsey been really poor today.
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Oh dear
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Fuck off Villa. Fuck off.
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should hve took ramsay off ages ago ..passed him by
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You are fucking joking.....a bit like our second half performance
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Handball. VAR it you twats.
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Fuck off!
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Absolutely asked for that. Pathetically predictable
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Pathetic.
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Wasn't handball. Boo.
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This has been just about our worst half of football all season. Utterly horrendous
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Shocking second half, just not good enough.
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Oh fuck off.
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What the fuck was that, Smith just watches the game slip away.
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Piss poor this half, what the hell happened at half time?
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Handball. VAR it you twats.
Shoulder!
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We have mostly played like ****** second half. Made palace look like world beaters.
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So sloppy and poor. Really really shit and lazy.
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Fuck sake. Not again.
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Very poor 2nd half again, as Smith twiddles his thumbs on the touchline. Shit management again. Ramsey not good enough for this level by far yet. All over the fucking shop here. What does Smith wait for to make tactical or positional changes? Another Covid break? This is shit.
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Dire second half
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how utterly fucking predictable!
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We haven't been very good this half. So many players all over the place. Inept tactics, alot of inept performances.
Still think it'll be 3-3
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Useless second half of game. Poor second half of season. Our best chance of winning one of the last three has gone.
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Absolute bunch of pussies, get a fucking grip.
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outplayed by fuckinng crystal palace...
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Awful.
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Smith's had a terrible second half. Roy's owned it.
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I just don't get why he sits and watches the absolutely inevitable pan out without making a change to stop it?
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bottlejobs all over the pitch.
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So sloppy and poor. Really really shit and lazy.
I’d agree. Sloppy and lazy.
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Jack has done nothing either since being on.
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Not kept the ball and let them bully us and rush us physically. Ramsey has been very poor.
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I know Barkley ain’t been very good, but Jacob Ramsey ain’t the answer. He offers nothing.
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Unacceptable, pure and simple.
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Burnley all over again and it's been coming since we took the lead the first time. We had them, we let them off the hook and we get exactly what we deserve.
We won't break 50pts this season, which has to be seen as a failure given the standards we set pre Xmas.
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so obvious they would get a third
nothing was done about it
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I just don't get why he sits and watches the absolutely inevitable pan out without making a change to stop it?
It's the worst thing about him. Happens so often and he looks powerless.
We were 1-0 up, we were 2-1 up and now we're 3-2 behind.
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Dreadful 2nd half performance. Starting to sum up the season.
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Jack is understandably way off the pace.
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Its Burnley all over again.
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Bring on loads of strikers, take off all the players who can cross to them.
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I just don't get why he sits and watches the absolutely inevitable pan out without making a change to stop it?
He can't think and react on the fly. Needs a 5 week break and video sessions before he can think of something to change.
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Pretty much a carbon copy of Burnley away this.
Hate watching us at Selhurst Park, proper bogey away ground.
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So NOW he makes a change. Fucking hopeless management.
Can't he see what all the rest of us can??
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Ollie has spent more time on his arse than his feet this half
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Bring on loads of strikers, take off all the players who can cross to them.
stupid
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we don’t manage a game at all
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Two desperation changes when we go behind. This is Smith all over. Watches us get dominated and does nothing.
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I hope Dean owns this defeat if that's the way it finishes
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Far too weak physically today. We haven't been able to compete and stem the flow in midfield.
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Now he makes substitutions ...
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Its Burnley all over again.
Beat me to it! The PTSD from that game has been triggered. :'(
Thrown it away!
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Jack has done nothing either since being on.
Agreed.
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Cant wait for the the new midfielders to arrive.
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Come on Wes
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The most chances that Palace have created all season.
Shocking.
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totally fucking useless since january - Smith's going to get the chop here if the owners are as ambitious as people believe.
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Relegation form for far too long. Really need a decent high level manager bringing in in the summer.
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when did we last win here ..
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I hope Dean owns this defeat if that's the way it finishes
I don't think it's just subs, Zaha come alive this half so just leaving AEM up v him was pretty sloppy, should've had a midfielder sitting in for 10 minutes to nulify him.
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Referee being a ****** hasn't helped us.
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They've upped the tempo from about the 40th minute onwards and we haven't had a response.
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fuck off Goodman
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Fuck off ref you ******! Foul on Jack!
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totally half-arsed. The way Elmo turns his back for Zaha's goal and the way he doesn't even commit to the challenge for Mitchell's goal. Poor by Elmo.
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Starting to think Smith isn’t switched on enough at this level
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Too many switch off. Crap play, crap coaching. Will be glad when this season is over.
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Coote is a cnut
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Games like this for me is why Dean Smith won’t be the long term manager of the club. I think the ambitions of the owners are such that I don’t think he can improve fast enough as a PL manager to keep up. He’ll be the victim of those ambitions. His limit is mid table and that’s nice, but look at where Leicester are now and who they have as manager. They needed that to take the next step. We need better than Dean Smith.
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Luis has hit every pass at 100 miles an hour this half.
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Very sloppy second half, it's like chalk and cheese from our good spell in the first half where we looked miles better than these. Palace seem to have 13 men this second half.
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How is that not a foul
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totally half-arsed. The way Elmo turns his back for Zaha's goal and the way he doesn't even commit to the challenge for Mitchell's goal. Poor by Elmo.
And Freddy has been out on loan. Another cock up.
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crap management today
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Did Hodgson make a tactical change at ht that we haven't spotted or reacted to?
Far too passive in the 2nd half, Palace got on the front foot and we've just let them dominate.
Unable to find a proper out ball when we break up their attacks. Two soft shabby goals, but you can't say that we deserved anything else.
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What a tragic second half.
Traore should have been off at half time and Ramsey off 20 minutes before he was.
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We've been good in patches but you don't win games by playing well in patches.
There's no way Palace should have dominated us like this in the second half. We can be so easy to play against.
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This is exactly the type of showing that’ll set Dean the sack if he’s not careful.
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Relegation form for far too long. Really need a decent high level manager bringing in in the summer.
I agree. He thinks about as quick as Forrest Gump and the mdifield has been a cluster fuck for 4/5 months now.
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davis with a shoulder header haa typical
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Crap header from Davis - that was decent half-chance.
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Davis jumps like a sausage
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Zaha looks like a bag head.
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fuck off Goodman
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We have missed Cash and Mings, but it's the midfield that is the problem
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Doug Luiz has been our best player today.
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shit fucking shit
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I'm officially annoyed for the rest of the day now!
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crap second half. They just outworked us, by quite a margin.
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The amount of chances we have allowed them to have suggests to me our midfield is shit which it is and is something we need to sort out.
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Gutted. Seasons done.
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Zaha looks like a bag head.
He's a whinging moaning c@nt
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We've played Palace today, not Man City - we've made them look good by us being half-arsed and lacking in quality all over the pitch. Poor by Smith - he doesn't know what to do some weeks.
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Not even close to being good enough yet again. Our form since January has been bloody awful.
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Anyone wants my ticket for next Sunday....
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Had enough. Smith out. We've done this time after time under his reign, and he's never learnt.
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Go screw yourself BC Villain you complete and utter scum troll
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Anyone wants my ticket for next Sunday....
I'll have it mate. Haha.
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Gutted. Seasons done.
In truth, it was done weeks ago after we started dropping particularly silly points eg against Newcastle.
Thank God it's nearly over!
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errrrrrr that is so annoying
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Oftalab, no but thanks for the offer!!
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Totally outthought by Roy in the second half.
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Go screw yourself BC Villain you complete and utter scum troll
Insulting each other isn't the answer here. Everybody has an opinion that should be respected.
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You just know fucking Wolves will win at Spurs now.
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You just know fucking Wolves will win at Spurs now.
They may well do, but they thought they'd be winning the World Cup by now, so must be really fucked off about how their season has gone.
Scraping around for points to try and finish above us. Good luck to them, but they've had a bit of a reality check this year; beaten at home by West Brom and us, and didn't sign Ronaldo and Messi. Whatever happens, seeing the wind knocked out of their self important sails has been rather amusing.
Fuck em, Deano.
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Go screw yourself BC Villain you complete and utter scum troll
Less of that, please.