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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on May 13, 2021, 10:42:41 PM
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Martinez for me. Honourable mentions to Watkins, Grealish and Konsa.
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Martinez for me. His 15 clean sheets reflects well on the defence also. Mention for Targett and Watkins who have both been excellent.
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Grealish. Martinez has been fantastic. But with Jack all season we could have been chasing top four. Without him, we could be in a relegation battle. That's how vital he is.
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Emi. What an absolute bargain. Been brilliant behind a very competent defence. Once we get that midfield anchor sorted, we will be an even better side.
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Martinez for me too. One of the cleverest signings we've made in a long time.
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He's been out for a third of the year but I just don't think it could have been anyone else. For over half the season Jack wasn't just our player of the season, but possibly the division's. Big honourable mentions for Martinez and Konsa, with Mings and Watkins also impressing and Targett my vote for most improved. But honestly, overall, I just don't see how it could be anyone else.
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Can only be Grealish, arguably the best player in the division not just our team. Honourable mentions to Konsa, Targett and Martinez. Don't think Martinez has been as sharp in the second half of the season.
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Emi. Best goalie since Bosnich, first time in a decade we don’t look like conceding off every corner, helped made the defence one of the best in the league, seems like a leader on and off it as well. Superb signing.
Closely followed by Targett and obviously Grealish.
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1-Martinez gets my vote
(2-Grealish, 3-Watkins, 4-Konsa)
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Missed Grealish out of my original post. Edited.
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Targett and Cash have also done well for me.
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I work with a guy who used to work for Southampton’s media team. When we signed Targett I asked him what he was like and he said, ‘nice lad, never a footballer.’
So, I’m going for Targett because I’m glad he’s proved him wrong.
That aside, Grealish, Martinez and Watkins, probably in that order.
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Martinez followed by Jack
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Jack. Without him we’d have been fighting relegation all season.
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Another Jack vote here.
I’d also like to vote for Emi.
Shame they can’t share it.
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Luiz has probably been the biggest disappointment for me. At the start of the season I was expecting him to really kick on into a top player at this level. Has been ok but certainly not the progression as expected. Maybe a good rest this summer will do the trick.
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1 Grealish
2 Martinez
3 Targett
4 Mings
5 Konsa
6 Watkins
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He will most likely be off to The Olympics.
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Isn't it nice to actually have a choice from more than 1 player.
I'm actually going for Ezri Konsa as I think he's made the biggest improvement and I think he's extremely unlucky to have not been in the last few England squads.
Honourable meantions though to Grealish, Martinez and Ollie who could all win this and i'd have no complaints at all.
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Luiz has probably been the biggest disappointment for me. At the start of the season I was expecting him to really kick on into a top player at this level. Has been ok but certainly not the progression as expected. Maybe a good rest this summer will do the trick.
I think in years to come we'll come to see his post Xmas dip in form as a blessing in disguise. He wont be going to Citeh now and we are left with an outstanding prospect.
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Very tough.
Based on pure quality Grealish of course but Martinez has just been amazing in 90% of the games and can't underplay how important a reliable keeper is at this stage of our development and one who frequently makes match winning saves at key points.
I'd probably give it to him.
Konsa has been very very good for majority of the season aswell and Targett obviously gets the much improved award.
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Been a few years since you could name several as player of the year. Martinez, Grealish, Targett, Watkins, Konsa... you could make a case for any of them.
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Emi for me.
Closely followed by Grealish, Watkins, Target and Konsa.
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Luiz has probably been the biggest disappointment for me. At the start of the season I was expecting him to really kick on into a top player at this level. Has been ok but certainly not the progression as expected. Maybe a good rest this summer will do the trick.
Hahaha, only you, bronte, could post about your biggest disappointment in the 'player of the season' thread!
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Jack
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Emi for me because of consistently high quality of play and the confidence he has brought to the defence. He’s made all of them better. But if you voted for Jack, Ollie or Konsa you’re not wrong either. Each have their own very strong case for play of the season.
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Matt Targett take a bow.
Only player to have played every minute so far this season. Disciplined, solid defensively, threat going forward and a fantastic attitude.
In the face of adversity, proved most of us wrong. Not many do that!!
Honourable mentions to Emi, Jack, Ezri and Ollie. :)
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Martinez for me but Targett Konsa Watkins Grealish and Mings have all had decent seasons.
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Martinez for me.
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Konsa for me. Martinez has been excellent but he has had a couple of wobbles that I can’t remember Konsa having. Jack has just missed to much of the season. Ollie, exceptional job for basically the entire season and would probably be a different story of all those chances that hit the post went in. Small margins!!
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Target, hasn’t missed a match (I don’t think?)and has been impeccable throughout. Plus an absolutely massive improvement on last season.
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Martinez. What a signing.
I've absolutely loved watching Konsa though, he runs him a close second with Watkins right behind him. If only, if only, we'd seen Grealish for a full season though.
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1 Grealish
2 Martinez
3 Targett
4 Mings
5 Konsa
6 Watkins
That would be mine if you swap Konsa and Mings round.
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Emi, Jack, Ollie and Tyrone in a four way photo for me. With Emi getting it on the nod because it has been such a long time since we have had a top, top goalkeeper.
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The foundations have been put in place at the back.
Martinez has been immense but he is just pushed into 2nd place, I can only think of one error all season from Konsa.
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As someone mentioned earlier, Jack, although the best player in the league, has missed too many games to be in contention.
1.Martinez
2.Konsa
3= Targett & Watkins
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Grealish for me. How we missed him this season.
Martinez, Konsa, The Matts, Watkins and Mings also very good.
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Grealish by miles.
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As someone mentioned earlier, Jack, although the best player in the league, has missed too many games to be in contention.
1.Martinez
2.Konsa
3= Targett & Watkins
Even allowing for that, it has to be Jack. Just seeing him have a run at the Everton defence last night is proof he has something no other player in our team has. Messi like with four players trying to crowd him out
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Martinez. Ever present and has won us many points. Grealish would have been but having missed nearly a third of the season it has to be Martinez.
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Martinez. Ever present and has won us many points. Grealish would have been but having missed nearly a third of the season it has to be Martinez.
Everything I was about to post. Has to be Emi Martinez for his performances across the whole season as Jack missed 12 of the 35 games so far.
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Really difficult this season. I plumped for Matt Targett, but could be any of Martinez, Grealish, Watkins, or him. Honourable mention for Ezri Konsa, who's been immense and would ordinarily be a shoo-in for player of the season,
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Martinez. Jack's obviously brilliant, Konsa has been rock solid, and Targett incredibly consistent.
But Emi has been about as good as it's possible for a keeper to be. I can count the number of mistakes he's made all season on one hand. Just sensational.
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Martinez for me - he's been outstanding all season. Targett would get an award for the most improved player. Had Jack been fit for the whole season my vote would have been different.
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Ollie has been amazing. First season in the Premier League, too. Superb buy.
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What a refreshing change in that any one of Martínez, Konsa, Targett, Grealish or Watkins are a worthy winner. Remember the season Stephen Ireland got it?! And the year we went down...didn't the club even declare such an accolade null and void?!
Anyway, even playing only 66.666% of the time, Jack is an absolute demon and we'd be burning in the fiery furnaces without him.
Young player probably has to be JJ Ramsey given his ascent to the first team. But Louie Barry's FA Cup goal will live long in the memory and if young Carney/Chucky can win us the Youth Cup and get a first team debut before the end of the season, it would be churlish not to award it to him.
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Martinez just pips Jack for me.
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Grealish picks up my solo award because he's Grealish and he's brilliant, committed, brilliant, and oh so brilliant. "The Back Five" win the group award, best unit we've had in yonks. My moment of the season has to be Barry, though. His goal kicked up some dust in our house, I don't mind telling you.
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Grealish picks up my solo award because he's Grealish and he's brilliant, committed, brilliant, and oh so brilliant. "The Back Five" win the group award, best unit we've had in yonks. My moment of the season has to be Barry, though. His goal kicked up some dust in our house, I don't mind telling you.
Louie Barry has to be goal of the season.
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Blimey, who voted for Trezeguet? Naughty step please.
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Blimey, who voted for Trezeguet? Naughty step please.
I think someone has sausage fingers. That’s the only justification.
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It's nice to have some serious competition here for a change! Strong case for Watkins and Grealish but it has to go to our wonderful 'keeper Emi Martinez.
15 clean sheets is phenomenal. That gives you a serious platform to go and win games.
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Matt Targett take a bow.
Only player to have played every minute so far this season. Disciplined, solid defensively, threat going forward and a fantastic attitude.
In the face of adversity, proved most of us wrong. Not many do that!!
Honourable mentions to Emi, Jack, Ezri and Ollie. :)
Spot on.
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Without any doubt Emi Martinez.
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I’ve gone for Martinez. Those 15 clean sheets are worth 15 pts minimum. Probably more. Some very worthy competition. Grealish obviously. The back four have been mostly very good and it would be harsh on the other 3 to single one out for special praise. Ollie up front alone grafting tirelessly and his goals have also helped us massively. But I think your GK spot is the most important position in the side and we’ve got one of the best in the business. He’s probably quadrupled in terms of his transfer value this season. Top fella as well. Player of the season.
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JG.
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Without any doubt Emi Martinez.
Dare I say it, I think we may have one of the best keepers in the World?
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I think one of Martinez, Konsa or Grealish will rightly get the award.
But for me, it’s Matt Targett. A huge improvement on last year, I’ve lost count of the crosses he constantly blocks. Excellent attitude, he’s progressing into a really good player.
I find the fact that Luke Shaw is rated better than Matt laughable really.
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Voted for Grealish, but Martinez has been great and I think Konsa is my favourite player.
Also give a shout out to Targett, who I think is our most improved player.
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Jack is a world class player who, had he been fit for the last few months, I'm convinced we'd be at least top 6. Easily our player of the season.
Martinez has also been outstanding, as have Watkins, Konsa and (at times) Mings and Cash. Special mention for Matt Targett who I thought was shite, but is actually a very fine full back. Well done to him.
Keep those players and add a few at least as good and we will challenge next year.
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Isn't it great that we have so many candidates. It just shows how much better the players we have are and how much they are all improving. :)
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Isn't it great that we have so many candidates. It just shows how much better the players we have are and how much they are all improving. :)
It is, and the defence is a solid base to build things on. It's a bit crap though that there's not a single midfielder even been mentioned, let alone received a vote. That department needs a massive overhaul in the summer.
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So many positives for me this season and the foundations are in place for us to progress into the future with confidence and belief.
Close call but Emi Martinez gets my vote because he's been superb from day one and hasn't put a foot wrong.
Brilliant signing.
For the first time in years though there are choices for this award!!
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I was quite a vocal critic on here last season/start of this season, and this fella has well and truly smashed that humble pie in my cakehole!
Honourable mentions for Emi and Jack, but Matty Targett gets my vote. Our only ever present this season, and a solid 8 out of 10 in every game, starting with the 7-2 mauling of Liverpool.
Can't remember seeing a player improve so quickly - He was pretty much terrible up to and including the Fulham game early season, but almost like a flick of the switch, suddenly became a solid and assured LB overnight?!
Cracking season Matty, and long may it continue! UTV!
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I voted for Emi.
There are now two players at the club that I wouldn't swap for any player - Emi & Jack.
Closely followed by Konsa & Targett.
Who are in turn followed by Olly, Cash & Mings.
2 irreplaceable & 5 nearly irreplaceable players, allows serious upgrades in the Summer for the remaining positions.
It's been a very long time since I've felt we are on the brink of something exceptional.
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Jack for me, without him we have been average at very best, with him we were excellent. He makes everyone around him better, a truly world class player.
The defence have kept us going across the course of the season and collectively deserve credit. Konsa has barely dipped below 8 out of 10 and would ordinarily walk the player of the year award. Same for Targett really. Emi is world class and has made an incredible difference. He has made the odd mistake though - West Ham at home spring to mind - but that's been ultra critical. Mings has been particularly brilliant over the 2nd half of the season as well.
Overall I'd say you could make a case for Jack, Konsa, Targett, Martinez, Mings and Watkins in that order. Perhaps Cash too. McGinn, Luiz, El Ghazi and Traore have all contributed plenty too, just a little more inconsistently than the others. It is great to have choice though, and a set of players who seem so keen to improve.
The next stage of improvement is even tougher than this one has been. It will mean some fan favourites who have contributed a lot may no longer be first team regulars and we will need to start rotating our squad more sensibly too.
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I’d include Trezeguet in your final quartet but an otherwise excellent summation Mr Beard.
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For once we have a few to pick from, but I'd go for Konsa. Barely put a foot wrong and it's a travesty he hasn't at least been considered for an England squad yet. Really feel we could be seeing the early days of another great Villa centre back.
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Konsa & Martinez have made a few mistakes recently. Grealish was the best player in the league before his injury. Watkins is another who's been consistently good.
Not much between them, but it's Matt Targett for me, he's been excellent all season.
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Trouble with Konsa he makes things look easy never flashy. Mr cool.
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I think it was always going to be between Emi and Jack, but I’m really pleased that Matt Targett has got some well deserved recognition.
Ezri has had a great season, and it’s frightening that the lad will get better. We’ve got one heck of a player there.
Tyrone has marshalled the defence really well, I think that frequently gets overlooked. This, and having a world class keeper, has probably helped Matt and Ezri flourish this season.
Must not forget Matt Cash in the quartet, a very good debut season
Bit surprised Ollie has so few, but I think that’s more down to how excellent the defence have been playing.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/Aston-Villa-2020-21-Supporters-Player-of-the-Season/
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I've loved the contributions of Martinez and Watkins. Every single game I have enjoyed watching them as part of our team; such an uplift on so much of what has gone before but my vote has gone to Matt Targett.
In some of his early games last season, I really felt that Southampton had done a number on us. He looked okay-ish at times but just didn't seem up for it physically and, along with many others, I wondered when we were going to get a proper left-back.
Well, guess what? He was here all along and I couldn't be happier for him. Excellent season Matt.
Brilliant, positive thread by the way; A joy to read.
Well done one-and-all.
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I’ve voted for El Gazi can’t believe his goal scoring exploits Timo W that’s the way it’s done
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I’ve voted for El Gazi can’t believe his goal scoring exploits Timo W that’s the way it’s done
Had to re-read that mate, I thought you were suggesting El Ghazi used some kind of voodoo to extract Werner's goalscoring ability from him.
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When Jack plays our points gained increases by50%.
No brainer
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When Jack plays our points gained increases by50%.
No brainer
That's my view also. It's like back in the 90's with McGrath, it's a gimme that he's player of the season and it's just a question of who's the best of the rest.
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When Jack plays our points gained increases by50%.
No brainer
That's my view also. It's like back in the 90's with McGrath, it's a gimme that he's player of the season and it's just a question of who's the best of the rest.
Everyone knows JG is our best player by far. He's not our best player when he's not playing though and given that he's missed 12 games other players become our best or most important player in that time. Given that Martinez was for argument's sake our 2nd best player while Jack was playing and our best player when he wasn't has to make him overall our best contributor/player of the season.
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The player I'd pay to watch (if I were allowed) would be Grealish all day long. He's just different class and as such, it's him.
However, Martinez has been awesome, helped ably by the defence, and in particular Konsa from that unit. Mings is a true leader and though he's made the odd mistake, I wouldn't want to lose him. Targett is definitely most improved, there's been some great coaching done with him. Cash has also done really well.
Up front Watkins has shown and energy and determination as well as ability that in many a past season would have seen him win the award.
Any good team has a decent spine and as has been said, our weak spot there is midfield. Luiz and McGinn will, in my view get better but at the moment they, along with our wingers (barring Grealish in the left) are our weakness.
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Emi for me he's been in brilliant form since he signed for us he's won us lots of points.
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I voted for Konsa, for a couple of reasons. If Jack is fit for the entire season, then he's the obvious choice, no question. Then it was close between Konsa and Martinez. I went for Ezri because I like that he's a great example of how we recruit these days. How many people would have predicted he'd even be in the conversation for player of the year this season 6 months after he joined us? He's certainly outperformed Tyrone this season.
I think he's a real gem, and in the next couple of years, he will become an absolutely top-class centre-half with the International recognition to go with it.
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I voted for Konsa, for a couple of reasons. If Jack is fit for the entire season, then he's the obvious choice, no question. Then it was close between Konsa and Martinez. I went for Ezri because I like that he's a great example of how we recruit these days. How many people would have predicted he'd even be in the conversation for player of the year this season 6 months after he joined us? He's certainly outperformed Tyrone this season.
I think he's a real gem, and in the next couple of years, he will become an absolutely top-class centre-half with the International recognition to go with it.
I hope so. I fear that Maguire and Stones will be retained though; they are 28 and 26 and Southgate will probably keep playing them until the next Euros at least.
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I voted for Konsa, for a couple of reasons. If Jack is fit for the entire season, then he's the obvious choice, no question. Then it was close between Konsa and Martinez. I went for Ezri because I like that he's a great example of how we recruit these days. How many people would have predicted he'd even be in the conversation for player of the year this season 6 months after he joined us? He's certainly outperformed Tyrone this season.
I think he's a real gem, and in the next couple of years, he will become an absolutely top-class centre-half with the International recognition to go with it.
I hope so. I fear that Maguire and Stones will be retained though; they are 28 and 26 and Southgate will probably keep playing them until the next Euros at least.
It's frustrating as we can all see that the likes of Stones (and Walker) always have a mistake in them, Maguire too to a lesser extent.
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Emi for me - ever present and consistently fantastic.
As an aside, how on earth has Targett got three times the votes of Ollie?!?!? That's the sort of voting pattern that would put a Eurovision judge in to a cold sweat!
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I love Ollie but there have been plenty of games where he has struggled and he has had a couple of long scoring droughts. He definitely deserves to be mentioned on this thread but you can probably count the number of games where Targett has been less than 7 out of 10 on two fingers. We have had such issues with left backs for so long, but he has solved the problem.
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I went for Watkins in the end, not since Saunders have we had a forward who works his nuts off so tirelessly and he's been at it all season with hardly any backup. It was a toss up between him, Targett and Emi but then again I'd have gone for Grealish had he been fit all season. Can't remember the last time we were so spoilt for choice, hopefully we have the same problem next year.
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Emi Martinez wins Supporters' Player of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396519517631746048
Matt Targett wins Players' Player of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396476750863949831
Anwar El Ghazi (vs Palace, home) wins Goal of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396477302934999040
Carney Chukwuemeka wins Academy Player of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396477010650750981
Congratulations all, well deserved.
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Until February it was Grealish and a 4 man play off for 2nd between Watkins, Targett, Konsa and Martinez but missing a 3rd of the season changes that. I still struggle to pick between those 4 but Watkins was getting the least love on the poll so he got my vote. Those 5 have been superb though, with Mings, Cash and McGinn only a very small step below them.
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Jack is our most important player, no question. We've all seen that when he's out the team.
And after some of the duffers we've had in goal in recent seasons its great to see a commanding presence like Emi back there. I hope he's in goal for us for the next ten years.
If this vote had been made pre West Ham at home, it would have been Emi no question. But - even though he has still played to a high standard and kept us in games - there were a few goals in that match and beyond where I thought he could have done better.
So Matt Targett for me. Our most consistent player overall.
After a shakey start against Sheff U at home and Fulham away I don't think he's put a foot wrong.
Ezri would be up there as well.
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Was/Is there an official club end of season awards night with the players and a bunch of the best season ticket holders?
Nigel Kennedy providing entertainment, Dean Saunders and Shaun Teale doing a bit of crooning on-stage. Chicken in a basket and a bottle of red on tables. Dave Ismay MC'ing...
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Emi for me - ever present and consistently fantastic.
As an aside, how on earth has Targett got three times the votes of Ollie?!?!? That's the sort of voting pattern that would put a Eurovision judge in to a cold sweat!
Targett has been brilliant, and won the players' player of the season vote.
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Really interesting that the players voted for Targett. I think when you're playing knowing that there's an area of the pitch you can totally trust is taken care of makes a massive difference.
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Targett ha splayed every minute as well I think. He got my vote
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Targett ha splayed every minute as well I think. He got my vote
First outfield player to play every game since Downing 2010/11. Not sure if Downing played every minute.
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Really interesting that the players voted for Targett. I think when you're playing knowing that there's an area of the pitch you can totally trust is taken care of makes a massive difference.
I think you're absolutely right. Targett is Mr Reliable these days. One of the other things I really like about our team is the ability to cover for each other. He's often tucking in to mop up when Mings has put in a challenge, or has scampered across the box to clear as well as just being there. He's not shy to put a challenge in which is something that was levelled at him before.
I'm really pleased for him.
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Chilwell had a good game yesterday, but Matt Targett is every bit as good as he is, although I'd say Chilwell is a bit quicker.
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Targett ha splayed every minute as well I think. He got my vote
First outfield player to play every game since Downing 2010/11. Not sure if Downing played every minute.
Targett didn't play every minute, he missed 15 minutes over the entire season, got subbed off in the first game against Man City, think he had a knock but I can't remember exactly what it was.
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Targett didn't play every minute, he missed 15 minutes over the entire season, got subbed off in the first game against Man City, think he had a knock but I can't remember exactly what it was.
And consequently they were Neil Taylor's only league minutes this season.
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Tayls was partially at fault for their shitty first goal too.
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Targett ha splayed every minute as well I think. He got my vote
First outfield player to play every game since Downing 2010/11. Not sure if Downing played every minute.
Targett didn't play every minute, he missed 15 minutes over the entire season, got subbed off in the first game against Man City, think he had a knock but I can't remember exactly what it was.
Somebody has lied to me via the medium of WhatsApp. You can't trust anyone these days. ☹
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Emi Martinez wins Supporters' Player of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396519517631746048
Matt Targett wins Players' Player of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396476750863949831
Anwar El Ghazi (vs Palace, home) wins Goal of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396477302934999040
Carney Chukwuemeka wins Academy Player of the Year
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1396477010650750981
Congratulations all, well deserved.
And the women...
Jodie Hutton wins Supporters' Player of the Season
Asmita Alé wins Players' Player of the Season
Natalie Hague wins Community Player of the Season
Olivia McLoughlin wins Academy Player of the Season
👏👏👏
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I'm the one who voted for Trezeguet. I just thought he might need cheering up.