Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: jwarry on March 26, 2021, 03:06:39 PM
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Searched for a previous thread on him but couldn’t find one, so I just thought he deserves a bit of appreciation for equalling the British record for caps for his country. Well done Steven and I must confess that although I thought you were not a bad player I didn’t think for a minute you would break this record! 👏🏻
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Done well for an Ashley Westwood prototype.
Norn Iron don't exactly have an abundance of quality but fair play to him for turning up for every international camp over the past 15 years. Great dedication and discipline.
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Thought it was a mistake at the time by MON to sell him. Was a very tidy footballer, instead we wasted money on dross like Sidwell. Brilliant player for Norn Iron over the years and a great pro.
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He started off promising with us. MON wasn't sure what to do with him - he's had a good career.
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Done well for an Ashley Westwood prototype.
Much better all round player than Ashley Westwood.
Probably even now, at the fag end of his career.
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Not sure, Westie holds his own in midfield for a team that are at about Southampton's level when they let Davis go to Rangers a couple of years ago.
In checking the above, Wiki says that Davis holds an MBE for services to football !
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Davis scored his first Villa goal against Saints, for whom he later became a club legend, in 2005, aged 20. We'd gone 2-0 down to goals from past and future Villa players, Peter Crouch and Kevin Phillips, before coming back to win 3-2, Davis scoring the winner.
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Davis was always a busy little player, capable of taking players on in his younger days and getting a few shots off as well.
Westwood was just a square ball merchant - and went through phases of his Villa career shirking even that limited responsibility.
He seems to have had some sort of revival at Dyche's Dynamos in fairness. Or maybe it's just tallest dwarf syndrome with the other shit kickers around him there.
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Fair play to him, always liked him. Even though he has played for two horrible clubs in Scotland.
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Fair play to him, always liked him. Even though he has played for two horrible clubs in Scotland.
Agreed, couldn't have put it better myself.
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Thought he was excellent even in the 85 v Taylor
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Good player I'm pleased for him.
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Searched for a previous thread on him but couldn’t find one, so I just thought he deserves a bit of appreciation for equalling the British record for caps for his country. Well done Steven and I must confess that although I thought you were not a bad player I didn’t think for a minute you would break this record! 👏🏻
Northern Ireland isn't part of Britain 😜
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Another Steven Davis fan here.
Great career, wish more of it had been at Villa.
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Another Steven Davis fan here.
Always put me in mind of Chesney from Corrie. Not sure if that's a plus or a minus.
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You're right! Same mouth.
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Another Steven Davis fan here.
Great career, wish more of it had been at Villa.
same here, never understood why we let him go.
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Another Steven Davis fan here.
Always put me in mind of Chesney from Corrie. Not sure if that's a plus or a minus.
I can't unsee that now! :D
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Another Steven Davis fan here.
Always put me in mind of Chesney from Corrie. Not sure if that's a plus or a minus.
Ditto
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Chesney is also exactly the type of chap you'd imagine turning up for a mostly no-hoping international team's training camp every three months for years and years. Has that same honest face about him. Maybe they're cousins.
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He now has the outright caps record for UK nations. Well done, him. Much less of a twat than the previous record holder, too.
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I wonder if he'll manage to break Robbie Keane's Irish record of 146 caps. Might just fall short unless he plays till he's 40.
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I wonder if he'll manage to break Robbie Keane's Irish record of 146 caps. Might just fall short unless he plays till he's 40.
Think it'll be a close run thing. He's 21 caps off breaking the record, and they play 8 or 9 internationals a year ... if he can keep going a couple more seasons he might just about do it.
I'm in the "why did we let him go?" camp too. Wasnt a spectacular player, but I thought at the time he was pretty solid and looked a decent 30-game-a-season player in the Premier League.
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I wonder if he'll manage to break Robbie Keane's Irish record of 146 caps. Might just fall short unless he plays till he's 40.
Think it'll be a close run thing. He's 21 caps off breaking the record, and they play 8 or 9 internationals a year ... if he can keep going a couple more seasons he might just about do it.
I was thinking something similar earlier but after these qualifiers there probably won't be many competitive games till 2023. I think Robbie's impressive record for goals scored is pretty safe though.
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Thought he was excellent even in the 85 v Taylor
Steven 'I'm interesting but I'm not as interesting as Steve interesting Davis ' Davis.
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Well done Steven Davis MBE,the boy from Ballymena done good.
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Well done Steven Davis MBE,the boy from Ballymena done good.
His former headmaster is a Villa fan and is known to frequent this site. I can't remember now if he played a part in Davis joining us as a youngster. I know he was delighted he joined us and dead proud of the lad as I'm sure he is today.
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Steven Davis has had a superb post Villa career. Rarely spoken of because he has always played a very unsung midfield role. But all credit to him for what he achieved at club level and country over many years.
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The word that comes to mind is 'tidy'. Doesn't excel at any one thing in particular but is a good all-rounder and very dependable. I'm another one who is glad to see him beat the record of Shilton, who's a cock.
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Peter Shilton really is a bitter fucking bell end.
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I wonder if he'll manage to break Robbie Keane's Irish record of 146 caps. Might just fall short unless he plays till he's 40.
No googling, which former Villa player, still playing is ahead of them both in intl caps, 151?
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I wonder if he'll manage to break Robbie Keane's Irish record of 146 caps. Might just fall short unless he plays till he's 40.
No googling, which former Villa player, still playing is ahead of them both in intl caps, 151?
Good one.
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Bradley, the American son of the team manager. Can't remember his first name. That's my guess anyway.
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Michael Bradley?
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Bradley. Or Bikir for Iceland.
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
If I was to guess it would be one of Landon Donovan, Cobi Jones or Dempsey. They all played for a very long time as the US were starting to make their mark in the game on the world stage
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Bradley, the American son of the team manager. Can't remember his first name. That's my guess anyway.
Not a Villa player, we only had him on loan. ;)
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
If I was to guess it would be one of Landon Donovan, Cobi Jones or Dempsey. They all played for a very long time as the US were starting to make their mark in the game on the world stage
I haven't heard of Cobi Jones. Has he played mainly in MLS?
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
If I was to guess it would be one of Landon Donovan, Cobi Jones or Dempsey. They all played for a very long time as the US were starting to make their mark in the game on the world stage
I haven't heard of Cobi Jones. Has he played mainly in MLS?
Mainly LA Galaxy but believe it or not a short forgettable spell at Coventry.
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Wow. LA to Coventry... talk about a culture shock.
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
Some of their women have won ridiculous numbers of caps. The record is 354!
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MLS Soccer, it’s like wearing a moody Breitling.
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Peter Shilton really is a bitter fucking bell end.
Davis said he'd contacted him to congratulate him on beating his record, doesn't sound bitter to me?
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Peter Shilton really is a bitter fucking bell end.
Davis said he'd contacted him to congratulate him on beating his record, doesn't sound bitter to me?
Wasn’t specifically about the record. Just Shilton in general. Not only could he not be a little more gracious when Maradona died but there is also this
Not really into politics but I’m looking forward to watching @UKIP unleash @Nigel_Farage
https://twitter.com/peter_shilton/status/1043204935326879744?s=21
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Wow. LA to Coventry... talk about a culture shock.
LA is overrated, Cov under-rated? Maybe a happy medium can be reached and a town-twinning be brokered.
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
If I was to guess it would be one of Landon Donovan, Cobi Jones or Dempsey. They all played for a very long time as the US were starting to make their mark in the game on the world stage
I haven't heard of Cobi Jones. Has he played mainly in MLS?
I'd say he had a claim to being the best known US player in the mid to late 90s.
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Him, John Harkes and Alexi Lalas.
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I haven't heard of Cobi Jones. Has he played mainly in MLS?
I'd say he had a claim to being the best known US player in the mid to late 90s.
Bill Clinton was the best known US player in the 90s.
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Peter Shilton really is a bitter fucking bell end.
Davis said he'd contacted him to congratulate him on beating his record, doesn't sound bitter to me?
Wasn’t specifically about the record. Just Shilton in general. Not only could he not be a little more gracious when Maradona died but there is also this
Not really into politics but I’m looking forward to watching @UKIP unleash @Nigel_Farage
https://twitter.com/peter_shilton/status/1043204935326879744?s=21
Oh yes, generally he's a twat, just wondered about this..
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
If I was to guess it would be one of Landon Donovan, Cobi Jones or Dempsey. They all played for a very long time as the US were starting to make their mark in the game on the world stage
I haven't heard of Cobi Jones. Has he played mainly in MLS?
I'd say he had a claim to being the best known US player in the mid to late 90s.
Ah okay. Little early for me.
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Really good player, Steven.
Even now, letting him go for a token fee looks like a big mistake.
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Yeah, I liked Davis, too. Seem to remember him scoring away at the Hawthorns, and then going to the airport to catch a flight to Houston. Me that is, not him.
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
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Yep. The captain of my other side Toronto FC has been a stalwart in the US side for a very long time.
Isn't there another American with an incredible number of caps? Is it Donovan?
If I was to guess it would be one of Landon Donovan, Cobi Jones or Dempsey. They all played for a very long time as the US were starting to make their mark in the game on the world stage
I haven't heard of Cobi Jones. Has he played mainly in MLS?
I'd say he had a claim to being the best known US player in the mid to late 90s.
Ah okay. Little early for me.
Had a decent(ish) season at Coventry after the '94 World Cup.
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
Aside from the first four, MON rated Sidwell and Craig Gardner higher than Davis. That was the real issue, athletes over footballers. MON wasn't one for rotating either so he didn't keep many players outside the first eleven that happy. He ended up selling the most of those former youth players for decent enough money in some cases (Luke Moore, Ridgewell, Cahill, Davis ).
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
Aside from the first four, MON rated Sidwell and Craig Gardner higher than Davis. That was the real issue, athletes over footballers. MON wasn't one for rotating either so he didn't keep many players outside the first eleven that happy. He ended up selling the most of those former youth players for decent enough money in some cases (Luke Moore, Ridgewell, Cahill, Davis ).
Cahill £5m for someone who went on to win 2 league titles, a champions league, and make 60 England appearances doesn't seem decent money to me.
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
Aside from the first four, MON rated Sidwell and Craig Gardner higher than Davis. That was the real issue, athletes over footballers. MON wasn't one for rotating either so he didn't keep many players outside the first eleven that happy. He ended up selling the most of those former youth players for decent enough money in some cases (Luke Moore, Ridgewell, Cahill, Davis ).
Cahill £5m for someone who went on to win 2 league titles, a champions league, and make 60 England appearances doesn't seem decent money to me.
When Curtis was the replacement who cost twice as much
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
Aside from the first four, MON rated Sidwell and Craig Gardner higher than Davis. That was the real issue, athletes over footballers. MON wasn't one for rotating either so he didn't keep many players outside the first eleven that happy. He ended up selling the most of those former youth players for decent enough money in some cases (Luke Moore, Ridgewell, Cahill, Davis ).
Had high hopes for Sidwell but he was a massive disappointment and actually quite similar to Davis at the time, could chip in with odd goal and ballboy assist but would go missing for long spells in game so in true MON fashion we replaced with similar player on double the money Davis would've been on.
Gardner did o.k job as utility player in 07/08. After his slow start Petrov really came into his own as that season went on so I could see sense in cashing on, selling Cahill when we did remains the major error of that period given Laursen had to retire about six months later and Mellberg left on a free.
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
Aside from the first four, MON rated Sidwell and Craig Gardner higher than Davis. That was the real issue, athletes over footballers. MON wasn't one for rotating either so he didn't keep many players outside the first eleven that happy. He ended up selling the most of those former youth players for decent enough money in some cases (Luke Moore, Ridgewell, Cahill, Davis ).
Had high hopes for Sidwell but he was a massive disappointment and actually quite similar to Davis at the time, could chip in with odd goal and ballboy assist but would go missing for long spells in game so in true MON fashion we replaced with similar player on double the money Davis would've been on.
Gardner did o.k job as utility player in 07/08. After his slow start Petrov really came into his own as that season went on so I could see sense in cashing on, selling Cahill when we did remains the major error of that period given Laursen had to retire about six months later and Mellberg left on a free.
Gardner did ok, and I think MON wasn't too happy when he was sold, but Davis was much the better footballer for me. Cahill was a big error alright but MON rated Curtis Davies the better player I guess between them. Zat Knight gets thrown into the Cahill debate regularly but he was only bought as backup really.
Mellberg was playing RB by then wasn't he? Mellberg and later Cuellar at RB...a hard watch!
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I wonder if he'll manage to break Robbie Keane's Irish record of 146 caps. Might just fall short unless he plays till he's 40.
No googling, which former Villa player, still playing is ahead of them both in intl caps, 151?
Bradley, the American son of the team manager. Can't remember his first name. That's my guess anyway.
Not a Villa player, we only had him on loan. ;)
I did think quite carefully about the way I phrased that, he played for the Villa, albeit only 4 times, therefore he is a former Villa player right? [shrug]
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We had Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker and Milner is perhaps the correct answer?
Could've done with him in that period where we had likes of Herd, El-Ahmadi etc polluting the central midfield. Southampton signed him in summer 2012 and he did a good job for them.
Aside from the first four, MON rated Sidwell and Craig Gardner higher than Davis. That was the real issue, athletes over footballers. MON wasn't one for rotating either so he didn't keep many players outside the first eleven that happy. He ended up selling the most of those former youth players for decent enough money in some cases (Luke Moore, Ridgewell, Cahill, Davis ).
Had high hopes for Sidwell but he was a massive disappointment and actually quite similar to Davis at the time, could chip in with odd goal and ballboy assist but would go missing for long spells in game so in true MON fashion we replaced with similar player on double the money Davis would've been on.
Gardner did o.k job as utility player in 07/08. After his slow start Petrov really came into his own as that season went on so I could see sense in cashing on, selling Cahill when we did remains the major error of that period given Laursen had to retire about six months later and Mellberg left on a free.
Gardner did ok, and I think MON wasn't too happy when he was sold, but Davis was much the better footballer for me. Cahill was a big error alright but MON rated Curtis Davies the better player I guess between them. Zat Knight gets thrown into the Cahill debate regularly but he was only bought as backup really.
Mellberg was playing RB by then wasn't he? Mellberg and later Cuellar at RB...a hard watch!
Yeah the CB thinking was a complete mess around that time. Laursen playing the full season in 07/08 was brilliant but we should've always known his knee would go at some point and it did halfway through the next season. Rather than Heskey we probably should've got a CB in that window as defensively we really fell apart from that point.
Just remembered aswell a few weeks after we sold Cahill, Davies did his achilles at Arsenal and was out for the season. Think Knight actually started about 30 games in 07/08 and then became first choice again in January 2009....and he was then sold the following summer again to Bolton to join up with Cahill.
We finally got it right in summer 2009 but as good a job as they all did in 09/10 defensively it was all short term thinking compared to what we're doing know where Martinez, Mings and konsa should all be around for us for next 3 seasons.
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I remember him mostly from that FA Youth Cup win...watched 2/3 of the games on that run & although the Moore’s took the glory he was always the best player,
Mad to think around 240 odd caps from just 2 players in that final
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I remember him mostly from that FA Youth Cup win...watched 2/3 of the games on that run & although the Moore’s took the glory he was always the best player,
Mad to think around 240 odd caps from just 2 players in that final
Who was the other one?
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I remember him mostly from that FA Youth Cup win...watched 2/3 of the games on that run & although the Moore’s took the glory he was always the best player,
Mad to think around 240 odd caps from just 2 players in that final
Who was the other one?
Rooney